Norn and Aisha | Mushoku Tensei S2 Ep 16 Reaction
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Family is complicated
Rudeus gaining early practice in parenting.
Btw regarding the thing with Aisha from her perspective, she essentially made a deal with her parents who told her "You can get a scooter if you score well on the test", then watched them give her sibling a bike just because she asked for one.
Sleep
this season Ai Kayano The VA for Sylphiette & Darkness are having fun
Indeed,sometimes too complicated
can say that again..🤷
Y'all didn't get the Aisha thing. She HAD to accomplish an ultimatum or Rudy wouldn't give her what she wanted. And Norn didn't even try and got what she wanted anyway. It's a layers thing. When dealing with kids they pay attention to the details of how you treat them. Details you wouldn't pick up on.
As a kid before, what you said in the last sentence is true. It hits me thru my brain out, man, I still remember the time when my father did something "wrong" for me and it stuck to my head until now... I kinda relate to this episode. Now I'll have my first boy this may!
Yeah I get it even though norn wasn't the one who wanted to participate in some sort of competition unlike aisha
This exactly. It's not even that hard to see. It's blatant favoritism from Aisha's POV. She worked hard on the test to get what she wanted and Norn gets what she wants without doing the same.
how can most viewers don't understand this scene on the go 😭
Exactly, it just feels unfair that you gave everything you got but then it doesn't matter cus your siblings got the rewards too without even trying.
Poor Norn, being born a normal kid in a family of geniuses.
Yeah.
She most definitely feels like the Black Sheep of the Greyrats even if she isn't.
Even Paul is some kind a genius too.
Ruijerd’s future wife 😂
@@baldman4077nop nop nop......nop
@@killeryuan08 Really everyone in that family is kind of up there. Zenith is a very high end healer. Paul is an honest genius who is indirectly saint class, Aisha has learned like two sword styles and all elemental magics at like 11, Rudeus was a saint class mage at five years old even Lilia was pretty above average in her prime.
I love how quick luke was to bring rudeues into the room, bro was like we from the same family i know how downbad we can be but say it aint so 😂
Say it ain't so 😂😂
Aisha was mad because she doesnt feel like norn did enough to earn getting what she wants while she had to get full marks for her position but norn gets to live in the dorms with no effort it makes her think what lilia and norns grandma says is true that shes going to get treated differently just because shes a half sibling and she deserves it
who is her grandma ?
@@portanrayken3814 zeniths mom they stayed with her before they came to rudeus
@@portanrayken3814 Zenith and Theresa's mother. A noblewoman with a stick up her ass. If said stick was an industrial steel girder.
"She deserves it" ?
7:37 Nah wtf, that edit actually scared me😭
that smirk was FILTHY 😂😂
I fcking lost it. Caught me so off guard
Nahh wtf 🤣
Yo is that the Tanya the Evil smirk?! 😂
2:30 yes, she did mean something else sheera. in the last episode of the first season, eris literally said she loves rudeus and only leaves with ghis because she has an inferiority complex towards him and thinks she must become stronger to keep it up, since she was unable to protect him from orsted. but since she is horrible at expressing herself, rudeus thinks she left because she doesn't love him.
Bruh I forgot about the total clown shoes that is the explanation -__-
7:48 the washing the back thing is OK for Rudeus, since it conforms with Japanese bathing etiquette. It is a bonding exercise. In the book he did tell her to put on a towel, since she went in naked.
And the thing with giving each what they wanted, Aisha sees it as unfair since she did spend her nights studying for a week for the exam to ace it, while Norn got below-average scores. In her eyes Norn hadn't earned the right to get what she wants. For Rudeus, he acquiesces to Aisha's demand to go against his better judgement since she's earned it through hard work, and Norn is allowed to go to the dorms because as a student she has that right and it's what he thinks is best for her.
Yeah, there is no lewd things happening in the show there, we would need a doujinshi for that XD
Washing one's back is not that unusual in anime as well, but ok
The show even tonned down to her wearing the outfit instead of a towel, even if it didn't make sense why she would since it would get her wet (because of the outfit)
In Norn's Perspective in the LN as far as I remember, she is an Average Person surrounded by Talented and Amazing People.
She even sees that Aisha is smarter than she is.
She was even being compared to Rudeus and Luke because of her being a Greyrat.
That's why she feels so out of place in the new place and it's environment which Honestly I can relate almost 100%.
And the thing is, its all true.
Norn keeps getting compared as average to her sister Aisha who is already a genius in literature, reading, mathematics and etc. To the point of even mastering elementary magic in each category.
While rudy is ya know rudy.
yet the only ironic part is that she doesn't see yet how much her siblings love her, and how her being "average" doesnt matter at all.
Even all of her hard work and determination gets recognized in the future.
i kinda repeated what you just said, i should have just said i agree lmao
Spolier everything you just said is going to happen next episode
@@angeloaliazas2894😂 This is actually why I never comment cut content anymore. Nothing outside of what I see in anime. Unfortunately there are a lot of kids out there who are like "Hey, hey HEEEY! I read the LN. Bow to me, yukyukyuk."
Besides there's Otaku Spirit for the cut content. He actually makes sure it's absolutely spoiler free. 😁
2:30, when Eris left with Ghislaine, she clearly said she loves Rudy, but left to become stronger, so next time they meet orsted or he's in danger she'll be able to protect him.
Plus i kinda wish they showed Ruijerd's full feelings, he really wasn't feeling Sylphie like at all. That's why he left immediately
Lol that sheera jobeless reincarnation bit will never gets old.
It’s old
It was old after the 1st time, shit is annoying now
Facts bro. Love that intro. The uncultured ass niggas over this reply are mad tweaking. They dont even know that the skip ten seconds feature exists
That edited smile on Norn's face made me spit my drink😂
It’s funny how Rudy and Sylphie dealing with Norn and Aisha is preparing them for handling future children. I love the character interactions in this show and that it’s not just nonstop action. This is a W season
Norn to Rudeus: "I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress" 🤣
Aight bro 🤦🏾♂️🤣
😭😭bruh
@@leylinthefifth "Dear Daddy, I'm sorry that he's your son." - Norn 😭
Ight bro that was a little forced
Kinda sucks how much of the novel they sped through for this ep but I get it.
One thing that didn't get conveyed well at all was that Rujierd was pretty upset by how Rudy replaced Eris so quickly in his persepctive. Rujierd trained Eris for *years* and became fully aware of how hard she had fallen for Rudy so it felt way too off for him to be back with Rudy and seeing him married happily to someone else. Made the scene with him addressing sylphy more impactful too bc up til then it was becoming a concern that he might resent her or have negative feelings towards her.
I think it's understandable LN is very slow burn, even the manga skipped some, its still a slow burn. Anime goal is supposed to promote the OG source, not become its own thing.
I'll say this though that underwear sequences should be the one that needs to be skipped, it's bring nothing to the previous scenes even after too.
@@riddifsome? The manga skipped vol. 7 of the LN almost entirely. It only mentioned the events in that volume in passing.
unlike him... rudy and humans in general , dont get to live to get 1000 years old, so we got to keep moving on and resolving ish asap cuz... we are dying ruijerd.
@@Neskus Still, my points still stands. This IP is very slow burn.
Ngl kinda glad they skimmed through this. It wasn't really my favorite part of the novel. I found it incredibly rude and it kinda irked me rudeus didn't point it out.
Some LN Extra Details (Volume 10 Chapter 12 & Volume 11 Chapter 1-3) provided by Rizal Boon on Muse Asia
- Ruijerd was still looking for his kin in the forest area in southern region's Forest, before he met Paul's party
- Sylphie feels a bit wounded that Ruijerd is being a bit indifferent to her when he went to sleep.
- They skipped sex that night when Ruijerd was staying. It was first time they skipped other than when Sylphie was having period
- Cliff being typical emo self when Rudy asked things about friends and siblings.
- Nanahoshi reminiscing about her young brother around Rudy's sister's age when he told her that his sisters in this world are staying with him.
- Sylphie is still hesitating when Rudeus asked Sylphie what if he asked her to quit being Ariel's bodyguard when they went shopping together.
- Rudeus tried to get Aisha to be more casual with him, but she is more determined to keep the professionalism if she became his housemaid.
- Rudeus plans to teach Aisha some magic for self defense
- Rudeus asked Linia and Pursena to help keep an eye on Norn after he scolded them.
What about the extra when it showed what eris was doing during all dat
@@theonewhoknocks8009 its likely to be covered on the OVA of this season
@@theonewhoknocks8009 apart from the Eris goblin slayer OVA, they don’t adapt the bonus chapters.
dude thank you i always look for these comments
They also removed Nanahoshi "flirting" with Rudeus
3:42 - Never seen a more relatible reaction 🤣 those subtitle dashes scarring entire generations.
Its a good thing that rudeus always check sylphis opinion first because, no matter how many years he stay on mushoku world, his mindset is still on his old world that kids like aisha needs to be in the school, not doing house chores and being a maid.
I just noticed that it's the same number of episodes with the Paul conflict in s1 and next ep will also be the perspective of Norn and its resolution.
why yall hating on aisha, shes literally the sweetest, shes a child so maybe she feels like theres favoritism
Well I've seen other people also missed WHY she was upset initially (maybe the anime didn't make it as clear as it could have been like the source) because they both got what they wanted, so some people thought she was acting out for no reason.
But because Aisha had to accomplish a goal get what she wanted, but Norn didn't and got what she wanted anyway. So Aisha took that as unfair.
They literally talk in the discussion with lupa saying that he do understand why she felt like that
@@madhursaxena2645 ye but i hate that thats their reaction on that moment
@@andreimontes5180 Maybe it was because they first saw the situation with rudeus in mind i.e his pov.
@raec5426 It's funny. I haven't even watched the reaction yet, but I knew they were gonna have something to say about that scene because every reactor I've seen so far had issues with understanding Aisha's pov as well.
I see Ln readers contribute that to the fact that the anime cuts out stuff, but as an anime only, I still think you can kinda get why Aisha is upset if you pay attention to the context given. It's just not as spelled out because the anime leans way more into Rudy's pov
7:38 wtf Norn smile 😂
That plastic bottle was so clean they must have summoned it right from the factory.
They just summoned the plastic of the bottle, so it could've been anywhere between the factory and someone's table.
Fun thought @@Tounushi
No cap, no label and no fuild would most likely mean it was summoned between molding and labelling on the factory floor.
@@storm4710 those are separate parts. The "programming" of the circle was to summon a single, simple object of homogeneous material. I.e. the bottle itself. No contents, cap, label, or stains. It's a pure mass of polyethylene terephthalate. And it has no dents, so its pristine condition would foremost make one think it's from the factory floor, but it could be from someone's fridge, for all they know.
Why are we talking about the bottle in this episode
@@Tounushi The fact that it has zero scuff marks or scratches makes it unlikely to have gone through transit.
Guest leaves on a journey
Roshi:"Alright, Goodbye bro,forever"
7:37 nah that is one devious edit😂
A side from Rudeus himself, Norn arguably had the best character development in the series.
Bro Norn is literally the sibling that u can't really stand to deal with but you love em with all your heart because u know they are just closed off to the rest of the world 🚶🏾♂️
That's the surface level observation but there's more to it than that.
Even though Aisha feels like a half-Greyrat, Norn feels like she's pathetic and out of place because she can barely reach the standard of what a Greyrat is.
She's not as Talented as Rudeus, Headstrong as Luke, or as Smart as Aisha.
She's just plain average.
That's why she feels isolated.
Even if she decided to separate with Rudeus to make her own identity she still can't escape it because she was being compared always to Rudeus knowing he is her Older Brother so expectations are created on her.
She's going through something more heavy than you're being led to believe.
@@internetgoat4831Yeah and she's all alone. She has no friends or anyone to even open up to where she is
@@lightsab4675 no friends, no mother and no way to know if she is ok, her father and the one that admires and loves most just sent her away... with a sister she doesnt go along well... to a brother that she is afraid of and hates cuz the first time they meet he is beating the breaks of their dad off.
@@internetgoat4831every asian household woulde related to that😂, imagine you constantly comparing yourself to your aunts/uncles being doctors and you are just there, existing HAAHAH.
That dynamic for the sisters was a lil sad. They grew up with some rough shit going on
Many people misunderstood Aisha and Norn's situation when Aisha complains that Norn got what she wanted by going to live in the dorms even after failing the exam. (7:05)
It is a childish thought of Aisha, but the difference that many people did not understand is that Aisha was forced to pass the university exam even without her wanting to study, since what she wanted was to be her brother's servant. On the other hand, Norn was given what she wanted even after failing and having "bad" behavior.
Ruijerd always have been Team Eris cause he see how she developed feelings for Rudy, so seeing Rudy with another woman really shocked him and made him a bit despise of Sylphie
This isn’t jjk, everyone isn’t gonna die for no reason 😂
Norn is a little bit similar to Rudeus from his past life. At least the way she is acting.
Nah, she just a spiteful little brat
It'll get revealed in the next episode I think, it's not because she's average she wouldn't be able to fit in or make friends.
I will say, this episode, and especially next made me start crying. I'm not moved to tears easily, but next one was sobbing for a half episode. Can totally relate
The Baddi pull up was tense, for a second i thought they were about to fight
Editor having fun with the faces 😂
"Eris's comeback gonna be EPIC!"
Its the best thing that happen when he meet Eris again.
3:54 why tf does Rudeus have a bowl of fruit on his head😂
Props to the edit0r xD that face
"Are they planting death flags on this man?"
No
Yes
No
It's complicated
My dumbass just found out Rinia also voices Delta in Eminence 🤦♂️
I hope Pluto comes to YT soon
Facts!!!!❤
no
Omg that norn smile edit
8:06 During my 1st watch I swore I read Rudy say “Don’t catch Covid” 😂😂
Yeah, Ashia literally between her mom and grandmother, always reminded she isn't part of the main family.
Ruijerd and Badigadi's beef goes all the way back to the Laplace War, some 500 years before.
Laplace unified the Demon Continent by force and obtained the title of Demon God. The Superd were his top shock troops, and Ruijerd was their military leader. During the unification, Laplace also killed the Great Emperor of the Demon World, Kishirika Kishirisu.
Badigadi was a Demon King heading the moderate faction on the Continent and Kishirika's fiance.
Badigadi must've lost a lot of subjects to Superd spears.
we need the universe shattering intro back 💀
Norn really be out here saying Rudy is with a different women than before meanwhile she just sits there and gets told her dad has a concubine and is ok with it like make it make sense😒
"He boutta walk into the white light"
Man if only you guys knew, what kind of light he's gonna walk in LMAO
"im worried about ruijerd" oh... so you dont know........
kids can be hard to understand, and they can have a hard time understanding you too. not to mention, Rudy is already not that great at reading people in general so the whole situation is just not the best for him. of course its awesome to have his family close by where he can protect them and form closer bonds with them, but it's gonna take quite a bit of work to break through the barriers that Norn has put up without also making Aisha feel left out, like Norn is more important or something.
they might be a bit of a handful but by the gods they are adorable
In the light novel, during the conversation with ruijerd there was some more dialogue from ruijerd and monologue from rudeus, the gist was rudeus thought ruijerd was uncomfortable staying too long in the house because of the lack of Eris, rudeus thought Eris held the group together, and rudeus feared he was growing more distant with ruijerd before ruijerd reassured him.
I am also uncomfortable due to the lack of Eris. I cannot wait to see her again 😢
She's definitely getting an ova or episode, maybe she'll get an ova every season
Yeah hopefully she gets more than 1 OVA somehow, feel like itd be so weird to cover her backstory as just a single episode since it would just be constant timeskips following her progress over the years. Doubt theyll have it just be a flashback of her describing her training arc since they already showed the other girl in the Badi episode and will need to explain that part..
1:53 AW HELL NAWH!!! WTF is up with the schedule OMG that's so cursed! Lol 😭
I feel like a lot of reactors forgot we saw eris pov already and the letter was a misunderstanding lol
It's crazy how Linia and Pursena thought that giving Rudy some random pantsu would satisfy him when he's got THE HOLY RELIC
There is no way this was Rudjerds finale. We still need to clear the Superd name and maybe fight LaPlace (the guy who put the curse on him)
Rudy need to get that Nanahoshi Prime and teleport him a back scrubber next time.
Aisha getting mad makes sense honestly. It's not about that she got what she wanted, its that she got the same ultimatum as Norn, and while she worked ass off for that reward, Norn got the "same" reward without making an effort or even succeeding, so in Aishas mind, she worked her ass off for nothing. Basically she sees it as favoritism. As an adult I can see Rudeus point of view and even agree with it; Norn is better off going to the dorms - but if I had been a child in Aishas age, I would've been pissed too.
Man I like how Rudy really wondering what they talk about, even though his journey with rujierd was basically in a battlefield most of the time
Well I can understand Pursena and Lineana with the gift. As Rudeaus tourtured them last season, he clearly showed them that he prays to the underwear of a semingly young girl xD
Aisha got that VoTech certificate on lock ( Plus extracurriculars) from mama Lilia. She is treating me entrance exam like a CLEP ( College Level Exam Program) to test out.🧐
Norn has been on Paul's hip since the disaster with no training living as daddy's girl on the road. All she knows about Rudy. Is he beat up her dad, But everybody she trusts is trying to tell her to get over it. The little bit of structure may give her the chance to grow but she also need space to build that trust 🤔
Then we have these 2, Linia and Pursena trying to get our boi Rudy brought up on felony charges by "helping". 😏
That Norn and Ruijerd interaction was so wholesome. They seem to have grown close 😊 iykyk
Cant wait for the next ep
Rosh 2024: "Yea get out" 😂😂😂😂
Bruuuuhh what a situation a kid have to raise kids , I can't see where are we going with this ❤
And y'all are looking good damn❤
BRUHHH I'M FUCKING CRYING FROM YA'LL SPECULATING THAT RUIJERD WILL DIE LMFAO🤣😭
12:25 on point man nice
💯 agree with Sheera, Rudy can at least her Eris out, but Rudy doesn't have to harsh or anything with her since he's moved on and found a genuine relationship with someone better for him.
I’m laughing at how they’re so concerned about Ruijerd saying goodbye forever here. It’s a legitimate concern! But also, he was so important for a pivotal part of Rudy’s life, that there’s no way they would offscreen him. No, no. You gotta make it hurt your readers/viewers. If it’s a real goodbye you want, then you have to make sure Rudy arrives right as Ruijerd is dying on a battlefield/dying of dysentery.
I mean. What would hurt more: Rudy getting a letter that Ruijerd died elsewhere? Or Rudy getting a letter and then rushing out, only to see him die in front of his eyes? Ruijerd is way too important to NOT die in front of Rudy’s eyes. There’s no way this is the last we see of him.
1 minuto?
Alv que rápido
@7:50 don't forget....."Mom says I'm gonna keep growing and get voluptuous" from the last time they met....how you say that to your "perverted brother" and then wanna be his maid when you KNOW how he is and what your mom did as a maid......ehhhhhhhhh
Heimlich from a Bug's Life, or is it just me 😂why they do them like that?
3:41 that "-" is one of the scariest shit ever. You never know what will happen what it comes up but most of the times it's a bad sign.
What i love about the anime is they dont cut awkward scenes out. Other animes would have cut forward on the eris explination
I was about to sleep, well what is another 14 minutes?
7:00 😂
I hope y'all react to UA-cam Horror short films one day. It's readily available and would take less time to do than say a studio-produced series. I imagine it would be easier copyright wise as well. Most don't go for more than 5 minutes and they're VERY, VERY creative. I hope y'all consider this!!
Why the bag looks like it's breathing? Because it's alive! Lupa, it's filled with men's hope and dreams! Pantsu!! XD
I'm a bit sad that they still haven't shown Eris since the previous season. In the novel, around the time since Rudeus admitted into the academy, there are snippets in which they show Eris' POV and how she is doing with her training. I guess they can hold this potential OVA just until the part where she appears again.
I got spoiled on something and they foreshadowed it in this episode
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
3:41 you can’t trust the subtitles 😭😭😭
DAYUM!!!
Eris gets her own arc.
Norn had daddy issues
When you get too used to the sudden anime plot twist shit, and a sigle dash mark can make your PTSD go full berserk lmao
Edit:
Also, about "why the thing inside the bag is making noise"
Might be hard to believe, but some eastern Mushoku community thinks that it's the staff's breath while sleeping, and they accidentally recorded it with the dialogue
It's not proven, could be wrong, but considering how they lost some members after S1, the job would be more difficult and tiring to them
Studio Bind treat their employee well, at least better than MAPPA, but the loss of staff is still a huge impact
So it's not entirely impossible
Aisha is mad that she had a condition to get what she wanted but Norn got what she wanted even though (from aisha's perspective) she didn't have to do anything.
you guys should react to " the danger to my heart"
The whole Aisha thing is because she does have an inferiority complex because of the circumstances surrounding her birth. So she's mad because what she wanted was to stay home but to get what she wanted she needed to work hard and get the grades Rudeus wanted (it was glossed over, but she worked really really hard to pass). Norn wanted to stay in the dorms and got her wish with no ultimatum or hard work.
Hence Aisha with her inferiority complex already started wondering maybe, it's cause she's a half sis. It is better explained though, that the ultimatum was kinda for both, Aisha passing meant Rudy would let her do what she wanted, whether it was stay in the dorms or home. However Norn failing means school is compulsory and thererfore not full freedom before Aisha calmed down
Norn on a path to becoming like Rudy was in his past life. I bet Rudy's gonna do everything he can to make sure it doesn't happen though because he knows how much it sucks to live like that.
Why ya'll planting ghe Ruijerd death flags yourselves😂😂😂😂😂😂
Concubine isn't the right word for Lilia, since that's for people that want to get married, but can't, and Paul actually married her.
Y'now, if I didn't know what's coming, I'd be so happy with Rudeus' character after getting married lol
I see a lot of free spaces there… Zom100 finale maybe?😳😳😳
It seems little but Badigadi and Ruijerd both stopped their beefing in respect after seeing Rudy. They both really value the relationship with Rudy
With the whole eris giving rudy ED narrative, I've always felt that its just not true, I have and still feel like rudy did it to himselfby misinterpreting her letter, casue when you look at they're journey up until that point rudy had been the one carrying the team on his back, even though she is strong and talented she it was never enough to share the burden with rudy especially in the battle with orsted, the way i see it felt inadequate and decided she had to go out on her own to get strong enough to support him, of course eris has her own issues as she isn't goid at expressing herself proprely especially when it comes to complex emotions but still casting the entire blame on her is just unfair.
Eris still my fav and she needs that closure moment. Like Ruijerd said, both are immature at the time for phrase their words properly and Rudy only suffering because of misunderstood from his part. We still need to hear Eris
Norn is like me FR😢
7:00 i have a feeling that roshi might not be a good parent 😂
Waitingg Windbreaker
The anime missed something where Ruijerd look disappointed to sylphie because he have always expected that Rudeus and Eris would end up together
Aicha is feeling that Rudeus is giving preferential treatment to Norn, cuz she HAD to get a good grade to become what she wanted, whereas Norn got what she wanted even tho she got below average score