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Without the two-tone paint scheme it almost looks as bad as the Nissan Cube! With the two-tone paint job it's absolutely Awesome though. I can't hardly wrap my head around the difference
Jakob is 100% correct, on all accounts. They absolutely ruined the announcement, and the economy changed so much that now, all these years later, it’s the perfect - too expensive - car.
In Australia, this will be $100k and I think that's the SWB too. VW you are failing because you were for the people, not thinking we all have Audi incomes!
Who is it for? Parents can't afford it, and people who can afford it want a better badge. It's a niche of a niche market and is going to sell very few units
@@JJs_playground I've got 2 kids - I think this car looks super cool and would consider it as a family hauler but I simply can't afford to spend that kind of money on a vehicle with my other expenses and obligations. I've got a good job and we are dual income too, but 80+ on a car is just not happening
They're clearly not planning for mass-market family van numbers here in NA. They ship it from Germany so it doesn't get US federal tax credits, knowing this is for the well-off who want a sterilized taste of their childhood. No, it's not competing with the Sienna. It's competing with the Rivian R1
@@SnowCrashed1 I'd buy it immediately if it was actually $50k CAD or they made the camperized version of it like they said they were going to do, like the 'westfalia' version of the original VW Bus. But no, they didn't do that either and increased the price by an insane amount. The price is completely ridiculous and totally unwarranted for a vehicle like this. $85!? You could go buy an Ioniq5 N for almost the same price which is a completely insane ridiculously fun, powerful yet still practical car. VW really dropped the ball on this vehicle. It's not going to sell because it's just way too expensive.
The original bus was cheap and could pack people in, young people’s perfect car. This will only sell to nostalgic older people with money. While I think it’s an awesome car, It’s the opposite of the original concept
@@akerletgaming At a base price of $2,245 USD in 1960, according to JD Power, adjusted for inflation, a T1 could be had for less than the starting price of a 2024 Honda Civic.
@@firelizard2 inflation doesn't work like that, you could say an aston martin that woulda sold for 5k in the 60s would only be 100k now or whatever the translation is but that's not how it actually ends up working
I still can’t believe they haven’t come out with an actual electric beetle to compete with the smaller, cheaper, style car segment like the mini cooper. This design aesthetic would fit it perfectly and make it an awesome city car
They want to sell a few of them but clearly the manufactures know that these early adopter EVs are a liability and price them to limit the take rate. The only. company really cranking out EVs is Tesla everyone else is two-steps forward one back and wait.
I was talking to my co-workers at a VW dealer and we are thinking this will hold its value better than other EV's. It doesn't qualify for the US rebates outside of a lease, and it's cool. Plus, (annyoingly) all the dealers will be marking them up
Totally agree. I have the money to buy one but the range killed it for me. Currently driving a Tesla Model Y and know how much electric range can shrink in real life.
@@sirspeedsalot I have two EV's, but the price and range are killers. I can afford it, but I'm not looking for short range on a van. Even my EV6 will get over 300 miles. They blew it again.
@robertbrody4032 I just picked one up , you're missing out , it's the perfect city cruiser , my wife won't even let me use it she's been stealing it from me
Great video guys. I’ve been watching for years and the way you guys go through cars you shouldn’t worry about battery replacement. This is why battery warranties are so long.
They have those in Europe with 2.0 Petrol, 2.0 Diesel and 1.4 Petrol Hybrid engines, they are sold as Multivan over there, no clue if you can find those worldwide
My 2021 sienna was $33k usd. So about half the price for more room and double the range. VW needs to provide at least similar numbers if they want that much money
@verynick Lots of kids won't last long in a car for 600 miles nonstop (that's about 8 hours). The sweet spot for families is usually between 300-400 miles.
@@TheReal_JG true but this much range gives you flexibility to stop whenever and also less frequent fueling stops. It's a really useful tool on long road trips
@@TheReal_JGthe average pit stop on a long roadtrip is about 20-30 min. Until I can full charge something in that time AND not wait in line to do it, then it's not a viable option over gas
@@coastaku1954 Almost all regular folks should care about depreciation. A Sienna will depreciate maybe 15k over 5 years but this will go down at least 40k. That's not insignificant. A car is the second largest purchase in a person's life. It makes sense to optimize for depreciation. That doesn't mean it's an investment though. Cars have and will always depreciate in 99% of the cases. But some a lot more than others. Especially EVs.
Yeah, along with the taillights and less rounded roof, it really makes it feel as much like the Transporter as the original T2 van. Especially if it's not two-tone.
@@deansmits006na, Ford did round headlights on the Bronco....a win Toyota offered both round and modern headlights on new Landcruiser... double win VW could offer two headlight versions and whichever sold bettwr, make the only version after the midcycle refresh (the round would win).
And the way he said it was also hilarious for some reason! I swear, it sounds like he either has never smoked it before in his life, or it's the only drugs he's ever used, so he gets excited any time he gets to talk about it, lmao. Not sure which it is, but it just sounded like he was not used to saying the word at all 😂
@@hyogomarume8345 You do know that Canada has had legal marijuana for many, many more years than most of the US states that legalized it have had it, right? It might only be in certain parts of Canada, but I know for a fact it's been available there legally for many years.
@@MaverickPhantom I’m more interested in the replacement of the windows since I work for an auto glass replacement company. Specifically the windshield with the ADAS camera mounted in the dash and not on the roof. I’m assuming the camera and bracket is in the dash and nothing on the window, just a black painted section around the camera
@@kevinW826 oh, I see.... well price wise will probably be about $1,500 per window with sensor, but your cost may be lower. The sliding window... well that's going to be over $600 for the entire wondow pane (or whatever the updated price is as for pickup trucks)... I presume
Im under 30 and always wanted this car, cant justify anything over 40k otd price for this. Ill probably wait till it drops drastically in the used market like most ev cars do.
It's not a huge battery for a vehicle that has the same aerodynamics and drag coefficient as a Rivian R1S truck lol. This car is as tall as an Escalade. 91KWH gross battery is small It's like fitting a 13 gallon Honda Civic fuel tank to a pilot. That thing will be lucky to do 250 miles lol. Big cars need more energy storage space. This car should have came with 100kwh minimum
The battery is the same size as the much smaller Q6 Etron, the electric Q5. And VAG EVs are notorius for their piss-poor efficiency to begin with. It'll get access to the Tesla Supercharger's soon and the charging speed won't get nerfed as much as the 800V Kia/Hyundai EVs.
The only vehicle that achieves your arbitrary requirement of 370mi on a 100kwh range is Tesla's and that is on paper only. This thing is not as aerodynamic as a sedan body shape it is going to take a hit in range.
I just graduated uni last week, so I don’t know if I count, but I adore this vehicle. Waaaaay out of my price range, and I also have no need for a whole van lol. But its vibe is immaculate.
50 year old California native. I was conceived in a VW bus by my hippie dippy parents. In the 2000's I bought a 1981 VW bus for $1500, loved it, had the engine rebuilt, put about 5k$ into restoring it, getting it totally solid, reliable, and kitting it out just how I wanted it. I did so many road trips, camping trips, I towed a trailer with my motocross bikes on the back, and had priceless memories in that bus for a total cost of $6500k. I never broke down, that bus never failed me once. It was a beast. I think VW missed the mark on this version. It's way too expensive, and they should have made a hybrid option. The VW bus was all about road trips with family and friends for myself, and many owners. Currently I'm looking at buying a Ford Maverik hybrid, all wheel drive lariat fully loaded, for 40k$ US, with 40mpg, put a shell on it, call it a day, and save 20k$ -30k$ over this VW.
Absolutely love your channel and this car! Please don't perpetuate the myth about EV batteries though. That's what big oil wants you to think (fear) as it pushes it's propaganda. Car batteries are not like your laptop or phone. The battery management systems doing a great job of looking after the cells. And we've come a long way from the original Nissan Leaf.
The battery replacement 60K bill I know about was from road debris, not wearing out. A nearly new EV was written off because it got a dent on underside. BMS can't stop that issue.
@@netcruzer The underside if the battery pack is super strong, it is actually part of the crash structure. And in VW IDs your can swap individual modules. But I have never heard of a case where that was necessary.
Modern chemistries and management systems have IMPROVED battery life, but it's not a myth or propaganda that they WILL eventually reach a point where a reasonable usage profile can no longer be expected. I'm sure big oil wants you to know it, but that doesn't make it wrong.
It's a given fact that you have to replace the engine in your car at some point and the last time I had to replace the engine in my mustang GT through the dealer it was $13,500. No I'm not saying that the Ionic one is cheap they're outrageously crazy but Tesla charges between 7,500 to 13,000 for a battery
Most engines can be rebuilt for much less than a full replacement engine. If you threw a rod and had a window in the block then yeah you need a new engine
Fellow geezer here. I have a deposit on one and lots of confidence about batteries. I’m driving a ten year old i3! It’s still great car. The battery is still good…
This car is 100% for old geezers with money. I love it but would not drop down that kind of cash for a car. Expensive cars is a total boomer fascination. At least they got this product out before all the boomers had to stop driving LOL
I've got this van in a Hot wheel that's yellow on the bottom half and white on top I didn't know they were actually going to make them. It's really cool 😎
Omg you guys are on a roll of reviewing cool cars!! This spec is once again very cool. Now they should make an ID.Beetle with the same colour and wheels.
@@SasquatchsCousin33 Does MINI still have a lot of buyers to steal? I've owned four, but they lost me after the R56 generation. Actually I was curious since I don't seem to see that many and went and answered my own question: their sales are down from a peak of 76k in the US in 2013 (last year of the R56) to 33k last year. From 2013-2014 alone they dropped 18.5%.
@@BenjaminWinrow no, but I saw five CTs yesterday and they’re absolutely horrific looking in person. Every Tesla I’ve been in has been a creaky rattly mess. To clarify, I quite deliberately wrote “drive” and not “own”. I wouldn’t be interested in owning either…
Please. You don’t have to take into account having to replace a battery. That article they showed said “Damage to the EV's battery voided the vehicle's warranty”
Hey guys, I really enjoy your videos. Well done, and always fun. Looks like a fun vehicle, and love the updated retro thing. Yea, older guy here, so can't separate myself from that. That price tho! Yilkes! I think they missed a key point of the OG VW bus. It was very affordable at the time.
5:33 and this is what she had to say? I was like what? Wasnt she born like yesterday? Holy cow, wow man, time really flies, I remember like it was yesterday when you were driving from the hospital super nervous. Thats awesome man.
I’m 21 I love the look of the id buzz. I wasn’t alive back when the original Volkswagen bus was a thing but every time I see one I’m like that’s sick. I think they killed it with the design and infotainment and steering wheel aside. If I had to have a minivan I’d make the sacrifices to drive it against the rest of the competition.
Loved this thing since it was introduced. Such a unique and fun vehicle. The design and specs are great. But yeah the price is wild. But people will buy them due to the nostalgia.
I owned a VW Vanagon Westfalia. I’ve wanted this since 2017. When I saw the price I realized it’s out of reach. In Canada they need to keep the MSRP price below $70k to get any incentives. They’ve failed on that front. One thing that may change the price is when they start manufacturing them in NA.
I LOVE the fact that EV can make an already super practical vehicle even more practical. All the cab, no need for transmission, engine, driveshafts while still delivering AWD.... but the price and range. yeah I think the Yota approach to hybridization and electric rear motors are going to be most applicable path for a long time.
Please stop telling people that an electric car's high voltage battery will "eventually" need to be replaced - the battery will more than likely outlive the car. Plenty of studies out there have the data to back it up. Batteries today don't eventually "die" from use, they just loose range over time, but you won't need to spend $50k or whatever to replace it. That news article you flashed up was for a damaged battery, not an "old" one. And charging to 100% on a DCFC is a waste of time - stop at 80%. Other than that, love the review!
Im with Striaghtpipes on this one. Plenty of 20 year old ICE cars on the road. Its questionable how many EVs, especially current generation, EVs will stay on the road. It all depends on how much their used and environment I guess.
@@baronvonjo1929 Really? In good running order? I had an '97 Acura Integra, made in Japan, and by year 18 it was falling apart and I scrapped it. Anyone driving around in a 20 year old ICE is asking to left stranded by the side of the road at some point. EVs will easily last 10+ years, and in my case I'll have 300,000+ km on it and it will have lived a good life.
@@TheStraightPipes 😮 The Leaf & i-MiEV use tiny Air-cooled NiMh and LTO batteries respectively. Completely different technology. Absolutely nobody is paying $60k to replace their battery. Nobody. Warranty prices (and quoted body shop jobs that shops don’t want to do) are not real world prices and should not be repeated as fact. This whole thing is deeply embarrassing for you. Educate yourselves and delete this terrible take when you re-upload the video (complete with driving impressions) on Monday.
Hilariously appropriate Grateful Dead start 420 style. But I'm seriously glad you guys really like it! It seems really cool and unique. Now if they could only get this out and start selling them! This companies stock has been a nightmare to own and as Yuri mentioned needs saved.
Good video, thanks for the content. I've been waiting for years for this. Even though it's a bit of a brick, range should have been 500 more more. At $100k after tax, fees etc, it's a total non starter. I'll be looking to its v2
@@verynick The Kia Carnival V6 FWD has 418 miles of range. As for hybrids, they aren't making enough for them to be affordable. Drive in a rich neighborhood and all you see are german SUVs and Siennas. The only people that can afford this have a 2+ car garage with a Q7 for those out-of-state soccer championships and have this as a novelty. Or an Etron with far better range and charging tech.
Second-year university student here (we did have a desktop computer in my family until about 2019) It's extremely cool. I'm a music student so most of my peers are not car people, some don't even drive, but they would take one look at this and would be in love. Hell, my mom would love it. It would be kinda useless for us though... my family lives in a small town 400+ kms from the proper big metro area so road trips in this thing would absolutely suck. Western canada just doesn't have the charging infrastructure yet.
I don't get the hate for the ID.4. I have a 2024 Pro S AWD i love it. Minor infotainement bugs from time to time, that's all. The power is addictive! ⚡️
@82ironwill82 definitely, I think it's far better looking than a model Y. I think it will age very gracefully. I watch a lot of different Automotive journalists and most of them which I generally agree with dislike The Styling. Which is so strange🤔
I've only heard bad things about the ID 4 personally. There is one in my area with a bad DRL already that would probably cost 1000 bucks or more to fix. Didn't give me much confidence in its long term quality. Sat in the current Tiguan and that also put doubts in my confidence about current VWs. But good luck
@@baronvonjo1929 interesting I’ve never seen a bad DRL, however 90% of Honda Accords 2016 and 2017 has bad DRL’s, and so many model 3’s and model Y, and S’s. Bad DRL is a minor problem. The problems I hear about are people that dislike the infotainment , which is not necessarily a problem. It’s a learning curve…. Every model 3 I have driven and Polestar 2 has incurred black screens which I have to reset, as well as malfunctioning rear cameras and other issues.. and both of them had noisy drive units.
I'm 26, no family yet, I love this, the idea of being able to carry a lot of friends with you will always be cool. Also no, I can't afford it, and if I had the money I would probably buy something else lol
30% inflation on cars, perhaps in Canada. I bought a G7 GTI and the G8 is 100% over the G7 price. I'm not sure what's going on in the car industry, but something is not right. Other than the software and the capacitive buttons, the Buzz kinda looks cool. While I was initially hot on electric vehicles, realism caught up to me, and I don't think we're ready for it, so I'm going to be an oil burner for the next decade at least.
@@daltonbedore8396 kia quoted me at $43k When I was looking at a Sportage Hybrid. I'm in Canada, prices haven't really tanked here as badly. Car is paid off thankfully.
As a senior whose in-laws are still alive, I would love the AWD version even if the storage is a little to small for my specific needs but that price is beyond stupid. Especially since we would need to build a garage for any EV we buy (we live in Winnipeg and an EV loses too much charge in the winter what with the -35C) so any new EV has and extra 60-75k added on to the price by necessity.
I love the channel but you guys need to educate yourselves on batteries. The average battery last 150-180k miles. Thats comparable to the life of most gas engines/transmissions.
Guys it’s 2024. You have to stop quoting battery replacement costs from the middle of the pandemic. Ev batteries do not need to be replaced like a laptop battery because they are far more advanced. You guys still don’t know anything about charging which is great that you just didn’t really mention it. Please either educate yourself on the topics or don’t mention it. There is no reason to spread false information.
the only reason they don't need to get replaced as often is because they're just bigger and have more cells. They're not "more advanced" in any way. Please either educate yourself on the topics or don’t mention it. There is no reason to spread false information.
@@SatongiFilms Of course car batteries are more advanced. they have active heating/cooling, complex battery management systems, etc. Laptop batteries do not have active heating/cooling.
@@SatongiFilms Laptops also don't regulate charge/discharge amounts (some can, but not by default). Just restricting charge to a max of 85% (ish) massively extends the life of the battery.
This happened just last year because the under shield of a Hyundai Ioniq battery got a dent in it. They WROTE OFF THE CAR because new EV battery replacements are really that expensive currently.
Great video. Nice smoke special effects. Yes price is an issue, but range is going to make many hesitate. Here in the US it gets no heat pump. I agree it will sell well here initially, it is the world first cool minivan. Not sure if it will continue to sell. The shot with the 3rd row removed is the best. Awesome space.
@@TheStraightPipes It was clever to drive on your no driving impressions video. Worked better than the others I’ve seen that just play with the in infotainment in a parked Buzz. Plus none of them have a Fast Times From Ridgemont High reference.
Love y'all! But you're both heavily misinformed on EV battery replacements. Yes an entire battery is expensive, however you realistically just replace underperforming/dead cells within the entire battery pack (much, much less expensive)
US pricing is $67,000 usd starting for 4motion. Based on your conversions at $59,000 usd for the Canadian model it looks like it’s cheaper to buy it in Canada vs. the USA
"Great video! I completely agree that the ID Buzz's price needs to come down to compete with the Kia EV9. Currently, it's priced in Rivian territory, making it unaffordable for many. Also, I wanted to point out that your review of the 2021 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro S may not accurately reflect the current model. The 2024 ID.4 has undergone significant improvements. Would love to see a review of the updated 2024 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro S RWD, boasting: • 282 horsepower • 402 lb-ft torque • 291-mile range • New 4.0 software Your thoughts on the latest model would be invaluable!"
Great video, but the battery comment was a misinformed low blow. Your own backyard is averaging 11-12 years for recent vehicle longevity. VW has a 160k KM / 8 year battery warranty in Canada. And as you all are well aware (at least I'd hope from respected auto reviewers) heat is the number 1 contributing factor to accelerated battery degradation. Battery thermal management systems are critical to longevity, a system early EVs didn't have. Imagine charging your phone in direct sunlight on a 30C + day on the asphalt.
They have those in Europe with 2.0 Petrol, 2.0 Diesel and 1.4 Petrol Hybrid engines, they are sold as Multivan over there, no clue if you can find those worldwide
This is called VW Multivan...but the ID Buzz is a pure electric platform...no room for an ICE at all. The short Version in Europe is only 4.71m and has the same cargospace to the front seats like the 4,97m Multivan (ICE needs a lot of space)...this is the advantage of a distinct EV platform. Length is no issue in US/Canada, but if you have ever driven in a ancient city center in Europe...you will understand... Why should it not last? Battery has a warranty for 160k km upto at least 80%...if it would really fail in this distance, you will get a new one for free...but this will not happen anyway.
This is going to be a perfect vehicle for those that need a car like this. 2 years from now. 2 years from now you'll be able to get one for $30,000. Just like every other electric vehicle. Which is good I like that. I'm still so mad they didn't make the dune buggy though. That would have been so perfect
The CHEAPEST one is still $60kUSD? I actually really like what they've done with this car/van/bus thing, but there are 20 other cars I'd rather buy at that price point.
I'm from Germany and absolutely love that car. It's too expensive here, too. Used cars with few kilometers on it and with the "older" spec (shorter version, some less hp and a little smaller battery pack) are sold for just under (EUR) 50k in medium spec. That being said: The *regular* T7 (Diesel) is also absolutely expensive these days. Let's see if it becomes more affordable in two years, when my old minivan will be retired.
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Review older cars too❤.keep up the fun content🎉
fukkk I love ittt !!!! I actually want one hahahah😍
Without the two-tone paint scheme it almost looks as bad as the Nissan Cube! With the two-tone paint job it's absolutely Awesome though. I can't hardly wrap my head around the difference
I agree with Jacob.
Shoulda been Diesel or Gas, 3 or 4 Cylinder Turbo
ukkk I love ittt !!!! I actually want one hahahah😍
Jakob is 100% correct, on all accounts. They absolutely ruined the announcement, and the economy changed so much that now, all these years later, it’s the perfect - too expensive - car.
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In Australia, this will be $100k and I think that's the SWB too. VW you are failing because you were for the people, not thinking we all have Audi incomes!
It’s a buzzkill.
hopefully drops to 50k
Super cool car, but its like 40K cool.
*The cheapest one* is $77,000! My jaw dropped.
After the initial hype, This is going to fail. I give it 3 to 4 years before they discontinue it.
Who is it for? Parents can't afford it, and people who can afford it want a better badge. It's a niche of a niche market and is going to sell very few units
@@SnowCrashed1 100% agree. Families are already struggling with cost of living in Canada. Very few people will buy this vehicle.
@@JJs_playground I've got 2 kids - I think this car looks super cool and would consider it as a family hauler but I simply can't afford to spend that kind of money on a vehicle with my other expenses and obligations. I've got a good job and we are dual income too, but 80+ on a car is just not happening
They're clearly not planning for mass-market family van numbers here in NA. They ship it from Germany so it doesn't get US federal tax credits, knowing this is for the well-off who want a sterilized taste of their childhood.
No, it's not competing with the Sienna. It's competing with the Rivian R1
@@SnowCrashed1 I'd buy it immediately if it was actually $50k CAD or they made the camperized version of it like they said they were going to do, like the 'westfalia' version of the original VW Bus. But no, they didn't do that either and increased the price by an insane amount. The price is completely ridiculous and totally unwarranted for a vehicle like this. $85!? You could go buy an Ioniq5 N for almost the same price which is a completely insane ridiculously fun, powerful yet still practical car.
VW really dropped the ball on this vehicle. It's not going to sell because it's just way too expensive.
The original bus was cheap and could pack people in, young people’s perfect car. This will only sell to nostalgic older people with money. While I think it’s an awesome car, It’s the opposite of the original concept
i agree thats it's too expensive but the vw bus has always been really expensive. the kids were buying ratty used ones
@@akerletgaming At a base price of $2,245 USD in 1960, according to JD Power, adjusted for inflation, a T1 could be had for less than the starting price of a 2024 Honda Civic.
Nostalgic people with money are the ones buying new cars. I think they will eat this up. That nostalgia money is strong with this one.
@@firelizard2 inflation doesn't work like that, you could say an aston martin that woulda sold for 5k in the 60s would only be 100k now or whatever the translation is but that's not how it actually ends up working
In a few years they’ll be $20k
I still can’t believe they haven’t come out with an actual electric beetle to compete with the smaller, cheaper, style car segment like the mini cooper. This design aesthetic would fit it perfectly and make it an awesome city car
I would so so so love if they come out with an electric beetle
So as tested about $85,000CAD plus tax (Ontario 13%) = $96,000. Plus freight, plus dealer admin bs. $100,000 VW Buzz.Good luck with that.
I just configured a GTX Buzz here in Germany. 94500€ incl tax ~ 142000 CAD fully-specced
That's insane. Ya, that's going to fail.
and with that disappointing range. Remember people buy minivan for long range trip. FYI, Toyota Sienna Hybrid range is 1032km with a full tank.
That's more than a Buzz, that's a full blown financial hangover.
my MDX costs less than that. nuts. I'll just burn that depreciating value in gas for my V6.
They price it like they don't want it to sell.
Cool car, crazy price
They want to sell a few of them but clearly the manufactures know that these early adopter EVs are a liability and price them to limit the take rate. The only. company really cranking out EVs is Tesla everyone else is two-steps forward one back and wait.
@@cbotten106 Or in the case of Tesla's Cybertruck it's one step forward and 4 recalls back. :)
I’ll buy a used one in 2 years for half the price.
In Europe they tend to hold value extremely well. You’ll get one for half of the original price after 4 years, not 2.
I was talking to my co-workers at a VW dealer and we are thinking this will hold its value better than other EV's. It doesn't qualify for the US rebates outside of a lease, and it's cool. Plus, (annyoingly) all the dealers will be marking them up
If you can find at least 1 that was actually sold
It’ll be worth that but it won’t be sold for that. Dealers sell used EVs for twice their actual value. At least in the U.S
Exactly, I'll be waiting patiently to pick up a lease turn in for 30k.
It might be cool, but the price and the range make it DOA. $60,000-$70,000 US and only 230 miles of range? Absolutely unacceptable.
I'm gonna pick one up for weekends partying in Miami
But I won't use it every day , I just am fortunate enough to have the money to get it and not mind spending that.
Totally agree. I have the money to buy one but the range killed it for me. Currently driving a Tesla Model Y and know how much electric range can shrink in real life.
@@sirspeedsalot I have two EV's, but the price and range are killers. I can afford it, but I'm not looking for short range on a van. Even my EV6 will get over 300 miles. They blew it again.
@robertbrody4032 I just picked one up , you're missing out , it's the perfect city cruiser , my wife won't even let me use it she's been stealing it from me
Great video guys. I’ve been watching for years and the way you guys go through cars you shouldn’t worry about battery replacement. This is why battery warranties are so long.
Tupperware
@@TheStraightPipes but Tupperware doesn’t have to put up with southern Ontario roads LOL
Love how passionate you guys are about vehicles and it shows a lot especially in this video.
As a TDI holdout, Jakub's crack about diesel at 10:10 gave me a really solid chuckle
Hilarious is how right he is though - 2.0TDI in this would print money and it be cheaper than 77k
Insert scarface money counter meme
@@jondub9524 It would print money.
They have those in Europe with 2.0 Petrol, 2.0 Diesel and 1.4 Petrol Hybrid engines, they are sold as Multivan over there, no clue if you can find those worldwide
Me at his comment: 💀
My 2021 sienna was $33k usd. So about half the price for more room and double the range. VW needs to provide at least similar numbers if they want that much money
Exactly. 600 miles EV for under $40k or nothing
@verynick Lots of kids won't last long in a car for 600 miles nonstop (that's about 8 hours). The sweet spot for families is usually between 300-400 miles.
@@TheReal_JG true but this much range gives you flexibility to stop whenever and also less frequent fueling stops. It's a really useful tool on long road trips
@@TheReal_JG plus you need to account for efficiency loss in the winter which will impact range
@@TheReal_JGthe average pit stop on a long roadtrip is about 20-30 min. Until I can full charge something in that time AND not wait in line to do it, then it's not a viable option over gas
I typed in Huge Depreciation and it brought me here 🤣
the depreciation itself is literally free gas money for a V6 rofl
😂😂😂😂
Who cares about depreciation, cars are tools and toys, not investments. Enjoy and use your car, don't baby it so you get your money back
Lol not in this economy@@coastaku1954
@@coastaku1954 Almost all regular folks should care about depreciation. A Sienna will depreciate maybe 15k over 5 years but this will go down at least 40k. That's not insignificant. A car is the second largest purchase in a person's life. It makes sense to optimize for depreciation. That doesn't mean it's an investment though. Cars have and will always depreciate in 99% of the cases. But some a lot more than others. Especially EVs.
The fact that the designers of this didn’t use round headlights is a HUGE miss!
Yeah, along with the taillights and less rounded roof, it really makes it feel as much like the Transporter as the original T2 van. Especially if it's not two-tone.
Too obvious
I think it would make it too retro
@@deansmits006na, Ford did round headlights on the Bronco....a win
Toyota offered both round and modern headlights on new Landcruiser...
double win
VW could offer two headlight versions and whichever sold bettwr, make the only version after the midcycle refresh (the round would win).
@@fortheloveofnoiseFord did round headlights on the early 2000s retro Thunderbird. They looked good.
So happy to see the fun colors and design details for this bus! Agreed on the price though, that's rough
Jakub saying marijuana so many times had me in tears 😂😂😂
He’s so Canadian he looked uncomfortable😂
I was going to say we’re 🇨🇦so…lol.
And the way he said it was also hilarious for some reason! I swear, it sounds like he either has never smoked it before in his life, or it's the only drugs he's ever used, so he gets excited any time he gets to talk about it, lmao. Not sure which it is, but it just sounded like he was not used to saying the word at all 😂
@@hyogomarume8345 You do know that Canada has had legal marijuana for many, many more years than most of the US states that legalized it have had it, right? It might only be in certain parts of Canada, but I know for a fact it's been available there legally for many years.
Spitting the facts. Salaries have not kept up with pricing
$80,000 base model, no thanks.
Some wealthy hippies will get it lol
@@MaverickPhantom I’m more interested in the replacement of the windows since I work for an auto glass replacement company. Specifically the windshield with the ADAS camera mounted in the dash and not on the roof. I’m assuming the camera and bracket is in the dash and nothing on the window, just a black painted section around the camera
@@kevinW826 oh, I see.... well price wise will probably be about $1,500 per window with sensor, but your cost may be lower. The sliding window... well that's going to be over $600 for the entire wondow pane (or whatever the updated price is as for pickup trucks)... I presume
$59,000. MSRP on 1st Edition AWD is $72,500
@@EVDroid base model in Canada is $80,000
Im under 30 and always wanted this car, cant justify anything over 40k otd price for this. Ill probably wait till it drops drastically in the used market like most ev cars do.
For a three row electric SUV, Rivian R1S seems like a more tempting option at this price point.
If they don't go belly up
@@paulswiszcz584 Assuming VW is not going to go belly up may well be an equally bold assumption the way things have been going there recently.
Huge battery, low range. Companies still not understanding BMS efficiencies.
They understand bs efficiencies.
It's not a huge battery for a vehicle that has the same aerodynamics and drag coefficient as a Rivian R1S truck lol. This car is as tall as an Escalade. 91KWH gross battery is small
It's like fitting a 13 gallon Honda Civic fuel tank to a pilot. That thing will be lucky to do 250 miles lol. Big cars need more energy storage space. This car should have came with 100kwh minimum
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 it's a massive battery for the range they are getting out of it. With a 100kkwh we should expect 370+ miles.
The battery is the same size as the much smaller Q6 Etron, the electric Q5. And VAG EVs are notorius for their piss-poor efficiency to begin with. It'll get access to the Tesla Supercharger's soon and the charging speed won't get nerfed as much as the 800V Kia/Hyundai EVs.
The only vehicle that achieves your arbitrary requirement of 370mi on a 100kwh range is Tesla's and that is on paper only. This thing is not as aerodynamic as a sedan body shape it is going to take a hit in range.
When a family car is not made by family people....
Did you hear what my kid said. “It’s soo cool”
FAMILY
@@TheStraightPipesif the only metric for a family car is coolness, then this is definitely a family car.
... and then you tell your kid, "You need to get a job so we can afford it."
@@TheStraightPipes he probably said the same when taking the metro and the bus.... 🤣
No video screens for kids, no refrigerator, no vacuum, no decent grab handles. Family car fail.
I just graduated uni last week, so I don’t know if I count, but I adore this vehicle. Waaaaay out of my price range, and I also have no need for a whole van lol. But its vibe is immaculate.
50 year old California native. I was conceived in a VW bus by my hippie dippy parents. In the 2000's I bought a 1981 VW bus for $1500, loved it, had the engine rebuilt, put about 5k$ into restoring it, getting it totally solid, reliable, and kitting it out just how I wanted it. I did so many road trips, camping trips, I towed a trailer with my motocross bikes on the back, and had priceless memories in that bus for a total cost of $6500k. I never broke down, that bus never failed me once. It was a beast. I think VW missed the mark on this version. It's way too expensive, and they should have made a hybrid option. The VW bus was all about road trips with family and friends for myself, and many owners. Currently I'm looking at buying a Ford Maverik hybrid, all wheel drive lariat fully loaded, for 40k$ US, with 40mpg, put a shell on it, call it a day, and save 20k$ -30k$ over this VW.
Most excited I’ve been to watch a straight pipes video in a long time
Absolutely love your channel and this car! Please don't perpetuate the myth about EV batteries though. That's what big oil wants you to think (fear) as it pushes it's propaganda. Car batteries are not like your laptop or phone. The battery management systems doing a great job of looking after the cells. And we've come a long way from the original Nissan Leaf.
The battery replacement 60K bill I know about was from road debris, not wearing out. A nearly new EV was written off because it got a dent on underside. BMS can't stop that issue.
@@netcruzer The underside if the battery pack is super strong, it is actually part of the crash structure. And in VW IDs your can swap individual modules. But I have never heard of a case where that was necessary.
Modern chemistries and management systems have IMPROVED battery life, but it's not a myth or propaganda that they WILL eventually reach a point where a reasonable usage profile can no longer be expected. I'm sure big oil wants you to know it, but that doesn't make it wrong.
Yer because ICE engines never need fixing or lose power. @@xtnuser5338
But will still need to be replaced is not a myth
It's a given fact that you have to replace the engine in your car at some point and the last time I had to replace the engine in my mustang GT through the dealer it was $13,500.
No I'm not saying that the Ionic one is cheap they're outrageously crazy but Tesla charges between 7,500 to 13,000 for a battery
Most engines can be rebuilt for much less than a full replacement engine. If you threw a rod and had a window in the block then yeah you need a new engine
Fellow geezer here.
I have a deposit on one and lots of confidence about batteries. I’m driving a ten year old i3! It’s still great car. The battery is still good…
Amazing! I3 was one of my favs
Different company though isn’t it?
This car is 100% for old geezers with money. I love it but would not drop down that kind of cash for a car. Expensive cars is a total boomer fascination. At least they got this product out before all the boomers had to stop driving LOL
This was one of your best videos in a while guys, great job! Fun and informative from start to finish!
I’m 22 and this is SO sick. Way too pricey but, very cool. Love it
Omg I’m so excited you guys are reviewing this! I’ve been curious about this one and I love your channel. 🎉
I've got this van in a Hot wheel that's yellow on the bottom half and white on top I didn't know they were actually going to make them. It's really cool 😎
I got the orange hot wheels one too!
I'm getting one of these Buzz things...when they make a nice two-tone Hot Wheel version Black/Red.
Omg you guys are on a roll of reviewing cool cars!! This spec is once again very cool. Now they should make an ID.Beetle with the same colour and wheels.
I agree. An ID.Beetle would steal a lot of Mini Cooper buyers
@@SasquatchsCousin33 Does MINI still have a lot of buyers to steal? I've owned four, but they lost me after the R56 generation.
Actually I was curious since I don't seem to see that many and went and answered my own question: their sales are down from a peak of 76k in the US in 2013 (last year of the R56) to 33k last year. From 2013-2014 alone they dropped 18.5%.
Very, very cool… I’d 100% rather drive this than a Cybertruck
Have you driven either?
The Buzz is nice, but one big problem is that it doesn't have a truck bed.
@@BenjaminWinrow no, but I saw five CTs yesterday and they’re absolutely horrific looking in person. Every Tesla I’ve been in has been a creaky rattly mess.
To clarify, I quite deliberately wrote “drive” and not “own”. I wouldn’t be interested in owning either…
Cyber trucks are going for USD74k base so not far off
What a weird comparison to make
Why is yuri making excuses for the price of this car, its absurdly expensive 💀💀💀
Been waiting for this!
The batteries dying is over emphasized. The batteries degrade over time, but 10 year old tesla are still rocking the same batteries
Cant wait to see these with the seats removed and filled with subwoofers and speakers 😃
Please. You don’t have to take into account having to replace a battery. That article they showed said “Damage to the EV's battery voided the vehicle's warranty”
Yeah what’s up with that? Feels like pushing disinformation at this point
If BYD sells the Xia in Europe & the US, it would kill this ID Buzz for sure.
I wouldn’t drive a Chinese car if it were free. Even Volvo.
@@ShanePatsy majority? No.
Yeah without tariffs and there is no style or reason to drive BYD.
@@stevehunter7402 That's what people said about Japanese and then Korean cars.
@@stevehunter7402free i would, bur wouldn't pay a cent
Holy shit! This thing costs MORE than my 2024 Chevy Silverado EV 4WT.
That's INSANE!!!!
Absolutely insane! And although I love the look of the buzz I’d take your Silverado any day of the week
The Silverado EV starts at $96k USD. You were able to get one for under $70k?
@@llamuh you can get them starting at 68,900
@@llamuh yea, i got my 4WT with the blackout package for $61,000USD
Great video as always! Been watching and a fan since you guys had 200k subscribers. Keep up the great work!!
This is the first vehicle that after the first 2 minutes of watching probably 200 of your videos that I want to buy immediately. 😮
Funny bone! but ~230 miles of range is a huge fail.
Basically means no sales in winter climates. I was stoked for this when it was announced as our next vechicle, now I never think about it.
Nobody will buy these outside of California
That's what they claim. I wouldn't be surprised if real world is barely over 200.
Hey guys, I really enjoy your videos. Well done, and always fun. Looks like a fun vehicle, and love the updated retro thing. Yea, older guy here, so can't separate myself from that. That price tho! Yilkes! I think they missed a key point of the OG VW bus. It was very affordable at the time.
5:33 and this is what she had to say? I was like what? Wasnt she born like yesterday? Holy cow, wow man, time really flies, I remember like it was yesterday when you were driving from the hospital super nervous. Thats awesome man.
Ya dude time flies. Baby number two comes Jan 1 🥰🥰 can’t wait. Dad life is the best
@@TheStraightPipes oh wow, congratulations my man!
Dad life is the best.
@@TheStraightPipes Hey, congrats and keep them bringing those vehicle to you!
@@TheStraightPipescongrats!
@@TheStraightPipes fax
I’m 21 I love the look of the id buzz. I wasn’t alive back when the original Volkswagen bus was a thing but every time I see one I’m like that’s sick. I think they killed it with the design and infotainment and steering wheel aside. If I had to have a minivan I’d make the sacrifices to drive it against the rest of the competition.
Towing range is unlimited. As long as you tow a generator.
Yeah, that will work.
@@cbotten106 No, since the car denies to drive if plugged in ;-)
23 years in the making, and Volkswagen finally releases the damn thing!
Super cool definitely been waiting on this
Loved this thing since it was introduced. Such a unique and fun vehicle. The design and specs are great. But yeah the price is wild. But people will buy them due to the nostalgia.
I owned a VW Vanagon Westfalia. I’ve wanted this since 2017. When I saw the price I realized it’s out of reach. In Canada they need to keep the MSRP price below $70k to get any incentives. They’ve failed on that front.
One thing that may change the price is when they start manufacturing them in NA.
I LOVE the fact that EV can make an already super practical vehicle even more practical. All the cab, no need for transmission, engine, driveshafts while still delivering AWD.... but the price and range.
yeah I think the Yota approach to hybridization and electric rear motors are going to be most applicable path for a long time.
Please stop telling people that an electric car's high voltage battery will "eventually" need to be replaced - the battery will more than likely outlive the car. Plenty of studies out there have the data to back it up. Batteries today don't eventually "die" from use, they just loose range over time, but you won't need to spend $50k or whatever to replace it. That news article you flashed up was for a damaged battery, not an "old" one. And charging to 100% on a DCFC is a waste of time - stop at 80%. Other than that, love the review!
First Gen Leaf and iMiev owners will likely disagree with that
Ok reply back in 8 years and if I’m wrong then I’ll correct myself from that point on
Im with Striaghtpipes on this one.
Plenty of 20 year old ICE cars on the road. Its questionable how many EVs, especially current generation, EVs will stay on the road. It all depends on how much their used and environment I guess.
@@baronvonjo1929 Really? In good running order? I had an '97 Acura Integra, made in Japan, and by year 18 it was falling apart and I scrapped it. Anyone driving around in a 20 year old ICE is asking to left stranded by the side of the road at some point. EVs will easily last 10+ years, and in my case I'll have 300,000+ km on it and it will have lived a good life.
@@TheStraightPipes 😮 The Leaf & i-MiEV use tiny Air-cooled NiMh and LTO batteries respectively. Completely different technology.
Absolutely nobody is paying $60k to replace their battery. Nobody. Warranty prices (and quoted body shop jobs that shops don’t want to do) are not real world prices and should not be repeated as fact.
This whole thing is deeply embarrassing for you. Educate yourselves and delete this terrible take when you re-upload the video (complete with driving impressions) on Monday.
Hilariously appropriate Grateful Dead start 420 style. But I'm seriously glad you guys really like it! It seems really cool and unique. Now if they could only get this out and start selling them! This companies stock has been a nightmare to own and as Yuri mentioned needs saved.
this should only come in two-tone
Right!
@@TheStraightPipesA red and black one would look mean!
Good video, thanks for the content. I've been waiting for years for this. Even though it's a bit of a brick, range should have been 500 more more. At $100k after tax, fees etc, it's a total non starter. I'll be looking to its v2
Range blows
Yup it should have been 500-600 miles!!! Right?
@@verynick The Kia Carnival V6 FWD has 418 miles of range. As for hybrids, they aren't making enough for them to be affordable. Drive in a rich neighborhood and all you see are german SUVs and Siennas. The only people that can afford this have a 2+ car garage with a Q7 for those out-of-state soccer championships and have this as a novelty. Or an Etron with far better range and charging tech.
@@rmd7048 Yup needs minimum 350 miles range for a vehicle designed as a people mover.
They had this concept back in like 2008, I remember seeing it in electric car articles.
This needs to come with a couch that can convert into a bed as an option.
Facts
I wish it was a hybrid or plugin hybrid, I'd be WAY more interested because it would be useful for road trips, instead of useless.
Screw you guys. I'm 79 and I'm getting one. It will be my 6th VW Bus.
What color!
@@TheStraightPipes Probably red to match his finances.
I am 22 and I’ve wanted one of these since I heard about it 7 years ago. Still cool
But did your family have a family computer in the living
And you'll be able to afford one.... before you go on Social Security.
This needs to be about half the price for what you get with this range. I was excited when announced but the price is crazy.
Second-year university student here (we did have a desktop computer in my family until about 2019)
It's extremely cool. I'm a music student so most of my peers are not car people, some don't even drive, but they would take one look at this and would be in love.
Hell, my mom would love it. It would be kinda useless for us though... my family lives in a small town 400+ kms from the proper big metro area so road trips in this thing would absolutely suck. Western canada just doesn't have the charging infrastructure yet.
I don't get the hate for the ID.4. I have a 2024 Pro S AWD i love it. Minor infotainement bugs from time to time, that's all. The power is addictive! ⚡️
Me neither I think it looks great….clean, modern, unoffensive…👌💯
I agree, I have a 2023 and love it. It's quiet, comfortable, and the infotainment is fine.
@82ironwill82 definitely, I think it's far better looking than a model Y. I think it will age very gracefully. I watch a lot of different Automotive journalists and most of them which I generally agree with dislike The Styling. Which is so strange🤔
I've only heard bad things about the ID 4 personally. There is one in my area with a bad DRL already that would probably cost 1000 bucks or more to fix. Didn't give me much confidence in its long term quality. Sat in the current Tiguan and that also put doubts in my confidence about current VWs. But good luck
@@baronvonjo1929 interesting I’ve never seen a bad DRL, however 90% of Honda Accords 2016 and 2017 has bad DRL’s, and so many model 3’s and model Y, and S’s. Bad DRL is a minor problem. The problems I hear about are people that dislike the infotainment , which is not necessarily a problem. It’s a learning curve…. Every model 3 I have driven and Polestar 2 has incurred black screens which I have to reset, as well as malfunctioning rear cameras and other issues.. and both of them had noisy drive units.
I'm 26, no family yet, I love this, the idea of being able to carry a lot of friends with you will always be cool.
Also no, I can't afford it, and if I had the money I would probably buy something else lol
No surprise Yuri, element vibes inside
Wait till the electric element comes out. PRINTING MONEY for Honda
@@TheStraightPipes The Element was born to be electric!
Best channel on UA-cam ! 🎉
30% inflation on cars, perhaps in Canada. I bought a G7 GTI and the G8 is 100% over the G7 price. I'm not sure what's going on in the car industry, but something is not right. Other than the software and the capacitive buttons, the Buzz kinda looks cool. While I was initially hot on electric vehicles, realism caught up to me, and I don't think we're ready for it, so I'm going to be an oil burner for the next decade at least.
Exactly its just straight insanity paying close to 100k for one of these is obscene. This should be in the 50k range at most.
Thats the dudes right there. THIS IS THE BEST REVIEW EVER!!!😊
Damn, I was hoping to trade my wife's Model Y for this van. Price is a deal breaker. 😢
Just be patient...in germany you can see Buzz at dealers used as test driving cars with low km...for half the listprice...
also the model Y is probably worth about 30% of what this will cost you. if you aren't upside down on the financing
@@daltonbedore8396 kia quoted me at $43k When I was looking at a Sportage Hybrid. I'm in Canada, prices haven't really tanked here as badly. Car is paid off thankfully.
Best intro!
11:55 Actually US salaries outpaced inflation. Thats part of the reason for the inflation lol.
As a senior whose in-laws are still alive, I would love the AWD version even if the storage is a little to small for my specific needs but that price is beyond stupid. Especially since we would need to build a garage for any EV we buy (we live in Winnipeg and an EV loses too much charge in the winter what with the -35C) so any new EV has and extra 60-75k added on to the price by necessity.
I love the channel but you guys need to educate yourselves on batteries. The average battery last 150-180k miles. Thats comparable to the life of most gas engines/transmissions.
You guys are the best hands down... Thanks for the video
Guys it’s 2024. You have to stop quoting battery replacement costs from the middle of the pandemic. Ev batteries do not need to be replaced like a laptop battery because they are far more advanced. You guys still don’t know anything about charging which is great that you just didn’t really mention it. Please either educate yourself on the topics or don’t mention it. There is no reason to spread false information.
There are nicer ways to say the same thing and get your point across.
the only reason they don't need to get replaced as often is because they're just bigger and have more cells. They're not "more advanced" in any way. Please either educate yourself on the topics or don’t mention it. There is no reason to spread false information.
@@SatongiFilms Of course car batteries are more advanced. they have active heating/cooling, complex battery management systems, etc. Laptop batteries do not have active heating/cooling.
@@SatongiFilms Laptops also don't regulate charge/discharge amounts (some can, but not by default). Just restricting charge to a max of 85% (ish) massively extends the life of the battery.
This happened just last year because the under shield of a Hyundai Ioniq battery got a dent in it. They WROTE OFF THE CAR because new EV battery replacements are really that expensive currently.
Great video. Nice smoke special effects. Yes price is an issue, but range is going to make many hesitate. Here in the US it gets no heat pump. I agree it will sell well here initially, it is the world first cool minivan. Not sure if it will continue to sell. The shot with the 3rd row removed is the best. Awesome space.
Yes “special effects”
@@TheStraightPipes It was clever to drive on your no driving impressions video. Worked better than the others I’ve seen that just play with the in infotainment in a parked Buzz. Plus none of them have a Fast Times From Ridgemont High reference.
This car is close to double what it should cost. If they sell one I would be shocked, then laugh.
You’re expecting an electric minivan with all the features in the world to cost less than a stripper Chrysler Grand Caravan?
@@dona83 $80K Canadian to start is obscene. Grand Caravan? Try a Q7. Be serious.
@@dona83 actually what I'm expecting is VW to understand the market for this
@@dona83all the features in the world? Horrid range that won’t get near 230 in the real world? Basic infotainment, crappy gauge cluster for $70k 😂😂😂
@@gahangore111 you said double the price it’s supposed to be which means you expect it to be $40-45k, what a stripper minivan is going for.
“I like the way you are scraping that window Jakob”😂
Love y'all! But you're both heavily misinformed on EV battery replacements. Yes an entire battery is expensive, however you realistically just replace underperforming/dead cells within the entire battery pack (much, much less expensive)
And they missed the 160k km warranty...if the Battery should really die early, which it will not happen...you would get a new one for free.
US pricing is $67,000 usd starting for 4motion. Based on your conversions at $59,000 usd for the Canadian model it looks like it’s cheaper to buy it in Canada vs. the USA
VW gear heads: could they fit a 3 cylinder diesel or petrol engine on it?
No
That would defeat the purpose of making an EV van.
One of my favourite episodes. Thanks!
So glad you edited a hotbox into this video - culturally significant AND iconic.
Groovy baby
@@TheStraightPipes Honoured boys!!!!! 🤟
You perfectly nailed the product placement with that Grateful Dead sticker.
Im interested in an all black one… used in about 5 years.
"Great video! I completely agree that the ID Buzz's price needs to come down to compete with the Kia EV9. Currently, it's priced in Rivian territory, making it unaffordable for many.
Also, I wanted to point out that your review of the 2021 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro S may not accurately reflect the current model. The 2024 ID.4 has undergone significant improvements.
Would love to see a review of the updated 2024 Volkswagen ID.4 Pro S RWD, boasting:
• 282 horsepower
• 402 lb-ft torque
• 291-mile range
• New 4.0 software
Your thoughts on the latest model would be invaluable!"
Great video, but the battery comment was a misinformed low blow. Your own backyard is averaging 11-12 years for recent vehicle longevity. VW has a 160k KM / 8 year battery warranty in Canada. And as you all are well aware (at least I'd hope from respected auto reviewers) heat is the number 1 contributing factor to accelerated battery degradation. Battery thermal management systems are critical to longevity, a system early EVs didn't have. Imagine charging your phone in direct sunlight on a 30C + day on the asphalt.
If this came in ICE, even hybrid it would be a best seller.
Jakub is the voice of the people
They have those in Europe with 2.0 Petrol, 2.0 Diesel and 1.4 Petrol Hybrid engines, they are sold as Multivan over there, no clue if you can find those worldwide
It should have been a hybrid after this long of a wait.
Cool design but cost, usability issues and it’s just not going to last.
silver lining...a used on in a few years with 50k miles will be 10k
This is called VW Multivan...but the ID Buzz is a pure electric platform...no room for an ICE at all.
The short Version in Europe is only 4.71m and has the same cargospace to the front seats like the 4,97m Multivan (ICE needs a lot of space)...this is the advantage of a distinct EV platform.
Length is no issue in US/Canada, but if you have ever driven in a ancient city center in Europe...you will understand...
Why should it not last? Battery has a warranty for 160k km upto at least 80%...if it would really fail in this distance, you will get a new one for free...but this will not happen anyway.
You get the choice of either standard or long wheelbase versions in the EU / UK.
They should have made this a plug in hybrid. They’d be so good.
European cargo versions of the ID Buzz starts at 49.000€ just sayin.
$77k is absurd.
This is going to be a perfect vehicle for those that need a car like this. 2 years from now. 2 years from now you'll be able to get one for $30,000. Just like every other electric vehicle. Which is good I like that.
I'm still so mad they didn't make the dune buggy though. That would have been so perfect
The CHEAPEST one is still $60kUSD? I actually really like what they've done with this car/van/bus thing, but there are 20 other cars I'd rather buy at that price point.
Volkswagen will start wheeling and dealing once they start sitting on the lots
I'm from Germany and absolutely love that car. It's too expensive here, too. Used cars with few kilometers on it and with the "older" spec (shorter version, some less hp and a little smaller battery pack) are sold for just under (EUR) 50k in medium spec. That being said: The *regular* T7 (Diesel) is also absolutely expensive these days. Let's see if it becomes more affordable in two years, when my old minivan will be retired.