I Got My First 18" Sub
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Before you FLAME me, I still need to gig test this. I have a theory that it will sound great at a venue and out of the garage..We'll see!
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Thanks for watching!
I love your wife's honest reaction. She didn't really care for the bass separation she was hearing. To her, she heard bass sounds coming from one place and "music" coming from another place. Maybe you didn't have your sub and top speaker balanced out enough? Maybe you had the sub too loud and it was overpowering the top speaker. That's very important to have a balanced sound whether you're using a sub or not. The Maui definitely had a balanced sound and your wife immediately picked up on that. 😉
That def could a been it. It was a very basic setup I had in the garage. You can always count on her honesty!
When you include your wife in your video, i just laughed a lot lol, thanks for that.
She’s the best and ALWAYS begging to be in them
@@AaronStrawnme begging??? Please! I make you look good!
Take out the Maui’s for small / medium rooms. Take the 18” sub extra for centre fill or behind the booth for larger rooms. Run it from your booth output so you can adjust volume as required. BOOM !
Great video👍 I started with rcf j8s and loved them but eventually needed something a bit more powerful so got rcf art 915a’s and subs. Now selling the 915s as they sound so harsh I mean ear bleeding harsh unless you eq the hell out of them. Goin try the ld icoa system. Seems like good stuff👍👍
That's how I felt about the RCF's too. Very harsh at high volumes. I'm a big fan of the LD. I'm interested in their Dave system too
Thanks for the video. Fwiw, I would think that a good 15' sub would work better with the 515's and wouldn't create that "seperation" she was talking about, but I could be wrong. Can't wait for the next part :) Thanks again !
I cut it out, but we both landed that being a little further away from the speaker would probably help that. I'll have more to say for sure after gigging with it! STAY TUNED
Love your videos, Aaron! You keep it real and I really appreciate that!
Thanks bro, that's my main goal!
Hey Aaron… sold the Bose L1 Pro 32s, bought the Evox 12s, I absolutely love the Evox 12’s… now I have the Evo J8’s for smaller parties and the Evo 12s for bigger parties!! But those Maui’s, those are nice👍🏽
That sounds like you are set. I have heard nothing but amazing things about the 12s
Try running your sub through your booth out. This gives you control over the sub to add the bass when you need it, and the ability to back it off when you don't need as much bass.
Great idea
Another great video AS. And as always when you add the Mrs. I know something funny is going to happen. 😂
I may be adding two Yorkville 15’s soon. I’ve had dual 18’s , 15’s rented 21’s, single subs. Etc etc. I feel for me, the right set of 15’s is good enough. Especially under K12’s. I still like my HK Polar 12’s for most events under 150 though.
Happy I found your channel! Appreciate all the reviews you do. I have a pair of the 28 G3's along with 2 ICOA 15's and 4 of the ICOA 18" subs. Love LD! But some of their products are very hard to get. Are you considering taking advantage of the the double sub feature (follower sub) that the Maui's offer? The 12" subs are very impressive and I feel doubling the subs or using them in cardioid mode would bring a whole new sound! Just a quick comment on this video, having a sub and a top will have that separate sound as your wifey described when close to the speakers, if you put distance between you and the speakers the sound will come together a little better, with the Maui's, that full sound leaves the speaker all at the same time, which is a sound I prefer for small or shallow venues that don't give you enough space. Thanks for the reviews! Have a great day!
I did a whole event with the 28s in Cardiod. I loved the way it sounded. Now that I have the 44g2s, I think I’m set with bass. Thanks for the feedback, glad you’re enjoying the content!
Great video!!! For a moment i thought you were going to add the Mackie to the Maui. That will give you the complete sound, and maybe a visit from the cops 😂
I don't need that again lol. I think you're right, adding that on would fill the sound I'm missing
Great video Aaron! I have been rockin' the Turbosound IP2000 & IP3000 and I get so many compliments on full clean sound. Keep on rockin' it!!!
I only hear great things about that system. Can't demo them anywhere
I think the RCFs midrange drivers are probably too small to fill in the lower midrange and that's why she hears them as "separate". I would guess that there's some sound information missing in the 90-200hz area. That's my assumption without hearing them in person. 5" is small (although my wife never complained lol). I would be curious how you both would think it sounds to run it to the sub then to the Maui's.
It's not the size that matters..it's how you use it!
@@AaronStrawn😂
That sub had a boomy sound. So what you need to do is bring the xover point down. Generally at 80hz or lower you won't be able to tell which speaker the bass is coming from. You go from directional bass to omi-directional bass.
Great job comparing these two!
Dude! I’ve been rockin the Maui G3’s for over a month now in different sized rooms & have not been disappointed with the overall sound….still testing the limit of how far they will throw until I figure out when a bigger set up is more suitable
Also depends on how many guests fill up the space, but so far they have really impressed me & I’ve had multiple people compliment the sound quality
Same, most impressive speakers I've owned. I wish I had a little more head room, but the portability of them is worth not having that
Have you taken the mackie thump out lately? Im debating on those or the pioneer xprs1182s. I like them for the price, size and weight
Great content! Have you tried putting a second LD sub in cardioid mode to see how much louder it gets? You can probably use the sub from your second column array. Maybe doing a comparison video with the 18" sub, for DJ science!
I did do this at a gig with a smaller crowd. Cardioid mode was legit. Sent all the bass to the front of the dance floor. My only critique was I didn't like how it looked
I’ve subbed to your channel just for a gig update on that sub( plus you sound just like me with your wife comments. Funny. )
Thanks!
Aesthetically I like the look of those RCF tops with that sub. Might be putting those on my xmas list. 🤷🏿♂️
I almost got a Thump 12 but thought, nah, let’s try this $2000 top that I don’t use first lol. It’s a great pairing
She is standing very close. Would that top and sub separation be noticeable in a club where people are a further from the speakers?
I run two Mackie SWA1801 with two Mackie SRM650’s on top of each sub. They freakin’ kick ass !! Been using them for 15 years or more.
Love it
Hey ! I was in Twin Cities, MN for 30+ years until November 2021 when I moved to Venice, FL. I love your videos ! Keep up the great work.
Man, i just picked the LD icoa 18a for under 1k and added it to my maui 28 G3s for larger rooms. Im I'm glad i didn't get the 44s. The 28s are lighter and can handle any room but lack on bass in the larger rooms. That's where the LD icoa 18 comes into play. All i can say is, wow. It sounds like a totally different system. I can reduce the limit light from blinking on the 28s by turning the bass down a bit when using the icoa 18. One thing i do recommend is to run the 18 sub independently to control separately from everything. My mackie board has a dedicated sub input, but if yours dont, you can run the sub to the control room out and that will have its own volume
Where do you set up the sub? I think this is the one I’m gonna get. Sent back the Mackie
@AaronStrawn you can put the sub in front of your booth, which is my preference or behind you against the wall. Either way, it will sound great
Great vid man. I'm a Mackie man myself and have plans on getting the exact same sub. My brother has one and that joint thumps! (Pun intended) He told me he took it out to do a gig on the Queen Mary and he was told to dial the bass back because it was disturbing too many guest not involved with the party he was Djing. I was like that's a big f***ing boat, if it can rock shhh that hard I have got to have one! I know you haven't gig tested it yet but trust that they'll get the job done.
Wow, I will say, my gig on Saturday...it wasn't pumping for me. I saw red! Maybe I gotta run it in it's own out
@@AaronStrawn I think your spot on with your analysis. You being the audio connoisseur that you are I'm pretty sure you've heard em all. I have a nice yet very basic and cost effective set up, I'm not ballin on that Strawn level yet. 😂
surely those tops arre too small to pair with an 18" sub ,you would need 12" tops to get the full mid range. also, regarding the maui . anythign can have enough bass when you have 2 people in an empty garage...but stick 200 or 300 people in there, that is where you will start to want the 18" sub.
That top is supposed to compare to a 12-15". That's why I bought it, but it has done nothing but disappoint me
Great video! Still waiting for the Bose pro32 vs G3 😬
I've done this and I think it was better with the sub 2. Lots of cables, but bigger sound
@@AaronStrawngreat, thank you!
I run two QSC KS118's with K10.2 tops. 100 lbs each...but, I NEVER lift them...ever. I have to tip them backwards to put them into playing position, and then back up again. I had a big tent wedding this past Saturday with about 250 people and I was far from the dance floor...SO glad I had these.
Wish they weren't so damn heavy
I have 2 ld g3 and one alto 215 sub 15'' old sub but have a nice bass I play most time outdoors last week 400 people and was amazing this set
Where do you set up the sub?
@@AaronStrawn some times in out sub or I connect it out from the sub but if I have to play techno music I connect the sub in aux to have the control 🙃
When I take my QSC 18's to bigger events. I run them out of my booth on my prime4 so that I can turn them up or down as needed. Or I will run out the Aux on my mixer for the same control.
That's a great idea. Then you don't have to go over them and physically adjust them
Great video, but I have 2 questions... 1. Could you try using the sub AND the maui 28 G3 together? Would love an opinion on that setup. 2. Does she have a sister?
I tried that in the garage. Sounded pretty good. But then I'm bringing 2 subs that look different. With my furniture, there's no where to hide that big ass..
Lol, yeah, but she's also taken ;)
Appreciate the wifey feedback and opinions. Great vid
She needs to be in more vids! I show that sub coming in at 82lbs? I too, looking for good, less than 100lb sub. Great job! I snickered at the end.😉
The one I had is about 65 pounds. She's the best :)
2:38 I thought you were going to get Nick Spinelli. 😂. I agree with your wife, I prefer the Maui.
😂
I can’t afford that mofo lol
Mackie does make good equipment they have bad rep they have been doing great
It hit different ❤
that thumbnail was gold
I’m gonna post the uncensored one I also made lol
Thanks for the video! What's your gain structure on maui starting from source?
I did a video on this- I'm pretty sure they are gain staged correctly.
Icoa 18 should of got with a good top or just get 44 sale that RCF this my opinion
Now you will have to get the 44g2s to compare… for science…
Yes, for science!
Love that you include your lady!
She’s the best!
great video
i love lamp.lol.i to have ron burgundy bobble
Hi mate great sound out of mackie :D What is the song title?
It sounds great in the garage. Can’t wait to gig it. Even Steve’s Only- Nicki Minaj/Drake/Lil Wayne/Chris Brown
What about pairing the LD system with the 18 inch sub?
That would work
Thanks for the great content. I don’t use subs anymore! Clients don’t care and it’s nice not bringing the extra equipment ! I figure if you want that type of sound you’ll go to a club! I only do small to medium weddings here in central Cali and it’s never been an issue😄
Welcome to the "dark side" lol. Seriously though a sub gives a more full/ complete music experience. I once thought there shouldn't be a need for a sub when spending so much on column arrays.
Dude, if there was a light 18" column...I'd be in!
100% agree with your conclusions!!
Gonna gig with it this weekend. Let’s see!
Now I have sub envy. I have a 500+ teen event tonight (Bands of America). An 18 sub would nice, but my garage says no f-ing way. RCF Evox 12s will have to do.
There’s def a difference with the 18. I feel it in my chest. Can’t wait to take it out tomorrow for a wedding
Sheesh I hope more than 2 Evox's for 500+. Also although it wont fit in your garage, possibly renting and keeping the sub in your vehicle is a future option.
That ONE 18" sub is waaaayyyy better than 2 x TT808 (dual 8" sub 👎) ☺Cone area of one 18" is about the same as 2 x 12", so they should in theory be able to push about the same, of course depending on amp, dB, VC, etc etc, but usually 18" go deeper and 12" more punchy. The 12" in the 28 G3 has 3" voicecoil so imo a pretty nice driver👍
BTW when you are testing these speakers why dont you use your QSC mixer and the peq/geq to fine tune fx the TT515 where it drops in lower mid, the TT808 goes up to 300Hz you will get muddy bass doing that with an 18", you didn´t mention your x-over freq, but the TT515 probaply has problems getting down towards the crossover freq with enough volume without some extra eq´íng, that gives you that sub/top separated listening experience......and standing so close doesnt make it better 🙂
Mixing different subs is no good idea unless you crossover, and still some cancelation can occur around x-over freq. Check out Michael Curtis on YT www.youtube.com/@MichaelCurtisAudio - lots of info on his channel.
Probably because I don't know how to do any of that lol. Believe me, I want to be better at understanding frequencies and crossovers. Maybe thats why I choose systems that are already tuned for it. I'm a plug n play guy
Did a gig last night with one Icoa 15a and one Art 915a. Don’t suppose you know anyone in UK who wants buy a pair of Art 915a’s 😂😂😂😂
Kicked the RCFs ass?
Kicked the RCFs a**?
Not an ass kicking but I definitely like the sound of the LD’s better just more full and punchy👍 they are half the price of the rcf as well 👍
Used the rev 5 for the first time last night as well, that thing is so much fun ❤
@@Massmp46 I love it too bro
I like the Maui it's night and day I feel the Maui is cleaner
They really kick ass
Put more videos out
I’m tryin guy lol
I’m sure you tried the sub with the Maui. How did that sound?
A-fucking-mazing. That’s my dream. A Maui top with 18” sub that’s under 60 pounds
I am only watching because of your lovely wife. Of course, no one wears bra's anymore, it's unhealthy, so your wife is probably very clever.
Maybe you purchased the wrong 18 inch sub.
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I know why 🤨🤨🤨🤨😂
The bra thing was so fucking hilarious
I want to dislike this video just for fun but won’t. I tried a SRX18SP with my Bose and it was difficult to integrate. You really need a Bose sub and the other sub plus a processor to run the crossover and equalize levels. I sold the 18’s. I have four Sub2’s. They do a damn good job. Last wedding I had a room that had thick drapes on the ceiling that absorbed sound like crazy and glass walls. The hotel complained the bass was too much outside so I had to put them in cardioid mode. Really pushed them but got the job done. Always been curious about an 18 system though and how it stacks up.
2 sub 2s with one tower is the tits
@@AaronStrawn couple four together and it’s pretty impressive.
Bose need 200hz crossover sub
I put my 18 under my booth and go from my controller to Sub then from Sub to my EV50M then from 50m to 50.
I use my 50s as midrange beasts.
You could do the same with the mauis
I’ve thought that, can’t fit it in my booth though
@@AaronStrawn It can sit anywhere. Bass is omnidirectional.