Is this REALLY Italy? A Road Trip into the South Tyrol Dolomites
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Is this REALLY Italy? It feels so much more like Austria, with the architecture, language and the food and drinks. In this episode we are exploring the province of Trentino-Alto Adige, also known as the South Tyrol. This area was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire until the end of WW1.
We visit a beautiful Alpine village where there's a great local festival going on, and then we go on a pilgrimage to a medieval monastery.
We finish by cooking a traditional Italian dish in our trusty Omnia Stove Top Oven - get yours here: amzn.to/4fnO9qc
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Finding out that Italy is much more than you thought
SOOOO much more!
The percentage of German vs Italian spoken which you mentioned is a figure only for the Sud Tyrol not for the Trentino portion which is overwhelmingly Italian. There are also several other languages, e.g. Ladin.
Trentino is only Italian plus Ladin (and some other very peculiar languages spoken by some thousands of people)
@ with respect I disagree, although small in numbers Cimbrian is spoken in Trentino and it is a language of German origin.
@@robjus1601 the majority of the province of Trento population speak italian. ok? Cimbrian are just 1000 people. Here the percentage: Cimbri are 0.2%, Ladin 2.9%, Mocheni 0,3% it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provincia_autonoma_di_Trento
@ yes thanks. Still larger numbers of people who still speak Nones in the Val di Non and Sole (slight difference in some words from Non). The main point taken as for Italian (Trentin) dialect.
Trentino-Alto Adige Sudtirol is a region not a province, where over 1 milion people live of which just 300.000 in the province of Bolzano / Bozen Sudtirol are german speaking, the rest are italian speaking people (and ALWAYS have been). Province of Trento has over 500.000 people which are almost entirely, and have always been even under the austrian empire, italian speaking. The province of Bolzano is majority german speaking but the city of Bolzano is today about 73% italian speaking due to forced immigration. One should also remember that bavarian colonists "germanized" this area during the middle age with force, as they did in the sudetes or elsewhere in europe. Until 1700 for example valleys like Val Venosta were still mostly Ladin speaking. The original inhabitants are the Ladini which are a reto-romance speaking group whose language is similar to the Friulana language in northern Italy.
For the rest the dolomites are not just in Sudtirol, but also in Veneto and the Italian alps have similar architecture, customs and climate even in zones where german is not spoken.
We actually met Ladin speakers when we were up at Seceda - we were chatting to them about their language and growing up in that area. Very interesting.
Very good explanation. My grandparents were from the Val di Non and Sole and we had our own language related to Ladin.
exactly, but we can say alto adige sud tyrol is not the only province where people speak german ( it's not real german but a german dialect, in fact some people from germany don't understand them when they speak their dialect) but in some places in veneto and friuli people speak german too.
@ yes a dialect, but Trentini is a dialect of Italian as well. I think it is also important not to forget the Ladin language and to finally and officially recognize that Nones is a Ladin dialect as well.
@@nigelandsueadventures Ladin is descended from the original Romance language spoken in the Alps before the arrival of the Austro-Bavarian languages in the early Middle Ages; before German, Rhaetic and Celtic languages were originally spoken in this portion of the Alps, and then Latin after the Roman conquest, from which the Ladin spoken today is descended.
Absolutely spectacular scenery, I am so looking forward to seeing the Dolomites. Great video, 😊 there are some pretty stunning places in Italy , that’s for sure 😊
Thanks Jeanie, we looked forward to the Dolomites so much, and they didn't disappoint. There were a couple of surprises there though!
Gorgeous scenery and the lasagneee looked delicious too!!
We have to keep working on that recipe!
Great video! I visited Tirol many times with my parents as a little girl! This part of Italy is simply stunning!
Those shrines you saw on your way to the Ministry are virtually everywhere...
Your lasagna looked awesome!
Thanks for sharing your beautiful tours; I'm really enjoying watching them. Brings back fond memories of my life in Europe, now residing in Australia ❤
Thanks Sabine, glad you’re enjoying seeing it again through our eyes. 🧡
Fab episode, So scenic. Food looks good especially your Omnia lasagne. I had no idea there was a German speaking part of Italy. That hike was fabulous, so historic and fascinating. Keep enjoying!
Yeah it's so fascinating. There's also a part where they speak a language called Ladin (not Latin) which is an ancient Romance language. We met some people speaking that language.
"Speck" is food that reflect well the local cultural mix because it combines seasoning by drying and salting, typical of well-ventilated dry and sunny places on the italian side of the Alps ( toward south) and also smoking, more typical of the german food traditions.
Oh my goodness it’s so beautiful! Thanks so much for a wonderful vlog! You are living the dream 😊😊
We are very grateful to have the opportunity to travel while we are still active!!
Piatti tipici del Sud Tirolo canederli e strudel .
Ciao da Milano
Hey Nigel and Sue, what a top video, Coen and I both enjoyed it, such beautiful little towns without the hassle and bustle, and the scenery. The Dolomites are amazing, offend see them in cycling races, they are truly amazing, and the country side was so green. Coen was salivating watching Nigel eating his speck, and how you eat those pizzas, they were huge. All in all another interesting look at the world through your eyes, thank you both for sharing, stay safe, Coen and Jay
Thanks Jay, the pizzas may look huge, but they are very thin! We often do have leftovers for breakfast - as I'm sure you've seen in our videos!
Le pizze erano di grandezza normale in Italia.
A couple of Aussie's cooking lasagne in South Tirol sounds like the begining of a joke 😂😅
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Oh my gosh this trip just gets better and better. Thank you for sharing your journey. Just incredible
I know, it’s so spectacular! Wait till next week 😱
Hi Nigel and Sue, you guys are gonna be super fit walking around on those hills. Thanks for the wonderful video I always enjoy the videos., keep enjoying yourselves lots of appreciation Cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺 I’m on the big island 🏝️
Thanks 👍 Cliff! I think we balance out the walking with all the 🍷 and 🍕 though!!
Oh my goodness those landscapes are like postcard pictures so beautiful. But those roads 🫣. That pilgrimage path though wow! Stunning video. Thank you for sharing.
Its a very special place - we absolutely loved it there. Thanks for watching
The mountains are so beautiful and grasslands so verdant. The whole village is very picturesque. Loved this episode very much. Some decent amount of walking required to appreciate all the views!
It’s incredibly green. Never see that colour in Australia!
@@nigelandsueadventures It must be a special type of grass! Very hardy too with the snow coverage it would receive!
Piove e le mucche aiutano immagina come😂😂@@Lee-astrololee
Great small village, scenery and cooking lesson! Thanks for taking us along once again. Bill Mc
Gotta balance the eating out with some home cooked meals right?
That was amazing thank you for sharing guys ❤
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Wow, those mountain views were amazing!! The area is so beautiful! Thanks for the wonder/climb up the hill and back.. 😀
Yeah it just keeps getting better! We loved this area.
Amazing episode I can’t believe how beautiful the scenery is. You guys always seem to find a pub is that
good luck or great planning.
Haha we sniff them out!
In Alto Adige la birra scorre anche nei fiumi😂
Thank you thank you.....the dolomite have fascinated me forever...more more....(that lasagne looked fab) debz
Thanks Debz... don't miss next week's video then! The Dolomites really are spectacular
Great video. Beautiful scenery.
Thanks Allison, we just loved it here!
Fantastic work guys. Thank you ❤
Glad you enjoyed it! 🧡
I ski at least once a year in those mountains, they make me feel so insignificant, most beautiful place in the world.
We are dying to go ski-ing! (Well, Nigel is - I mean I'm keen but I am the world's worst skier - its the bunny slopes only for me!)
@nigelandsueadventures if you go to Ortisei go to the Seiser Alm side of the mountain, there's a great slope for you that you can stay on all day and Nigel can ski a rondje en terug komen bij jouw. Veel plezier is de beste plek in de wereld om te skiën
Thanks for another great video of the beautiful Italy.
Cheers Robert, Italy just keeps getting better - coming up, the Dolomites!!
I found this episode very interesting the film work is excellent
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks Ian!
In italy we have many beatiful mountains area. Go also to Valle d'Aosta. She is amazing, the White mountain (monte bianco or mont blanc) area have no comparison.
Another wonderful video... thanks so much for sharing
thanks for watching!!
Beautiful country thank you.
Thanks Glenda, we are really loving this part of the journey.
Thanks for sharing your adventures! Such incredible views. The lasagne looked yummie! 👍🏻 🙌🏻😊
It was really good. We are looking forward to making it again!
This is beautiful and the Campground right there in the middle. I'd say 39 Euro a night is a bit expensive, but worth it for the location.
Love Nigel's drone footage, so beautiful.
Thanks for sharing 😊
It’s so beautiful! And yes, 39 was a lot, the most we paid anywhere so far
Wow that looks bloody amazing. Will definitely give it a go in my omnia.😘😘😘
Let us know how it goes!!
What a fabulous place, thanks for a great vlog
Glad you enjoyed it - its so beautiful Judy!
Enjoyed that one emensly ❤. Beautiful country. Thanks
Our pleasure! 🧡
Absolutely stunning! xx
So beautiful isn't it!
Haha... Thanks heaps for the good "las-agg-nee" laughs 😅
He’s a shocker isn’t he?
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Looks like the best lasagna ever. Great job.
It was! Can’t wait to try that one again.
They are steel germanic because in the 1946 there was the Gruber-De Gasperi Agreement that granted the German-speaking population of the Province of South Tyrol the right to autonomy and to preserve its cultural identity and customs.
thanks for sharing! It is really fascinating. I love learning about the history of Europe and how the borders have changed over history. Even so much in our lifetime! Countries I visited in the 90s no longer exist!
La stessa cosa succede in Valle d'Aosta dove i paesi hanno tutti un nome francese,però essendo il francese la lingua nel mondo più simile all'italiano " non fa notizia ".
La Valle d'Aosta è importante per la storia italiana perché nel 1600(credo) la famiglia Savoia faceva pagare una tassa per il passaggio delle Alpi così divenne molto ricca e fondò un regno che comprendeva una parte di Francia la Valle d'Aosta e il Piemonte che nei secoli successivi si espanse fino a formare il Regno d'italia che poi divenne la Repubblica Italiana...Questa è storia. 👋
@@mauromondino8296 in valle d'aosta non parlano francese, lo studiano e la toponomastica e i documenti sono in italiano e in francese ma loro parlano il franco provenzale che è un altra lingua
@@stefciko5831il dialetto valdostano è una lingua unica di derivazione francese così come il dialetto altoatesino lo è della lingua tedesca,i nomi dei paesi invece sono francesi.
@@mauromondino8296 assolutamente no, il franco provenzale è un altra lingua e non di derivazione francese, è una lingua a sé, non è riconducibile né alla lingua francese, né a quella occitana
Really nice! 🙏🙏
Great video as usual. I watched it again for the cooking as I want to try your recipe for lasagna in our Omnia Oven. We might try it at home as we fortunately have a gas stovetop. We will let you know how it goes.
Look forward to hearing about it! Just don't make it too runny. That was my mistake. (but, I guess it needs to be runnier if you're using dry lasagne sheets)
2 hrs walk per pizza they reckon to use the calories up. There are no calories in beer, only goodness. Love Nigel's impromptu dance. Give'em a taste of kiwi..... Great views. What an amazing place to visit. Thanks Nigel & Sue for another great video. Can I ask where you got your Omnia from - I need to get myself one of those.
Jeepers we’re going to need to do a little of walking! I do like your theory about beer though. It was such a surprisingly beautiful part of Italy. Thanks for watching!
Absolutely amazing Nigel & Sue. We love Italy. Thank you for sharing. For a 3 month trip would it be better to buy a camper or hire. ❤
Colleen I think for 3 months it wouldn’t be worth the hassle of buying and selling again. It’s not that easy as a non-European.
What a spectacular area. Lasagne looked sooo good.!!
It was! We look forward to making it again!
scusa amigo ma Nel Texas non ci sono messicani ne costruzioni spagnole?
Your comment near the beginning, about travelling the Motorway back when you were tour guides reminded me of when I and the family did a "Trafalgar" tour, and me looking wistfully out of the window thinking the same thing, I wonder where those small roads lead? Maybe one day, in the meantime loving being a part of your adventure, thank you
That's it! 100%. We worked for Contiki, the youth version of Trafalgar. I tell you it is really wonderful to actually get down on those small roads!
I have seen the Dolomites by video conducted by these people who drove through the passes, it was truly awesome 😮
We visit more of the Dolomites in our next video, it really is a spectacular part of the world!
Education for me. I knew there were mountains in Northern Italy but didn't realize how much it socially looked like Austrian (other than the Italian spoken obviously)
Yeah it was the same for us. A special part of the world.
Italy shares seven of the eleven highest mountains in Europe with France (2) and with Switzerland (5). But none of them are in the Dolomites (beautiful) Eastern Mountains but on the Western Alps.
very nice country the rolling hills so green so nice sue and nigel yes time for are beer and band
Always time for a beer Snowy!
Wow how beautiful. Hope I can visit one day.
Yes it 's Italy!
No, it is not. It is an occupied land.
@@namenlos40 it is Italy since 1919 as recognized by all International organizations, when Austro-Hungarian empire lost world war I and lost that territory as well as many others, and this happened to many countries. Unless of course you want to redraw the borders of all the countries and States in the world.
@@akustik_prog1601 Nevertheless, the annexation was against the will of the South Tyroleans and against the peoples’ right to self-determination. In addition, the South Tyroleans were treated extremely badly by Italy.
I dare you to ask for a Ham and Pineapple Pizza ;-) The scenery is truly breath-taking
Haha, there was a really cool sign in a pizza slice place in Bellagio with all the pizza "rules"
Pineapple Pizza? I would have called the police 😃
@@akustik_prog1601 Hehehehe
So glad I found this channel, I started watching with your MTB of Old Ghost road, but love you guys, you both remind me of my friends! Nigel in particular, is he a Leo? ha-ha, odd but I get on well with Leo's and my best friend Nigel is a Leo 👀👀
Thank you! That was an epic adventure, we really miss our bikes! Nigel is actually a Scorpio.
nice beer garden
The atmosphere was great too!
Nigel will know the aviation warning about clouds with rocks in them. Well, there they are. Living proof of the saying. Beautiful scenery. Thank you from Sunny Canberra, Australia.
haha that's a good way to describe them! Yes, it is SO beautiful here.
i live in this region, but in the south part called trentino, landscape and tradition are very similar, but here almost everyone speack italian, more than 100 yeas ago the entire region was part of austria so the tradition are very similar of tirol.
Fantastic video! I'm going to cook lasagna on the stove from now on
Let us know how you go!
The Alps are not the Dolomites. The Dolomites are a special kind of mountains, unique in the world, made of a stone called Dolomite, and they grow straight upwards... without hills. Beautiful and amazing.
All the italian Alps are a very different environment from the stereotipe that foreigners have about “Italy”. Actually all the Alps, from West to East, from France, to Switzerland, to Italy, to Austria, to Slovenia share a common character
Nice ❤
Thanks 🔥
Italy is much more than the classic stereotypes that are constantly regurgitated ad nauseam. I suggest a thorough deep dive into it's history if you want a better appreciation of it's diversity.
Great Lasagna by the way! 😋😋👍👍👍
I do not want to be picky here, but that region of Italy is called TRENTINO ALTO ADIGE with its two autonomous provinces: Trentino (province capital Trento) and Alto Adige (province capital Bolzano) so calling the whole region as South Tyrol which is only the Alto Adige or Bolzano province, is a mistake. Also, in Trentino province about 94% speak Italian, 3,5% Ladino and the remaining 2,5% German. Ladino is the third unofficial language mostly spoken in a few valleys. In South Tyrol 68% speaks German and the remaining Italian with the exception of 4% speaking Ladino which is a very old language spoken in certain valleys by 80% of the people, Considering the whole region therefore, 45% speaks German and 50% Italian. However there are lots who speak both languages.
Not only Tyrol was under austro Hungarian Empaire, even Milan, Trieste, Trento and other places.
Did you pass to Sesto Pusteria? the hometown of our tennis champion Jannick Sinner
You have to go in Valle d'Aosta
Wow love to have the recipe please
We are thinking of making a recipe book!
That will be wonderful 😊
hows the van going?
The Poss Poss is loving the mountains!
Amazing from my armchair!
Thanks Alison, glad you enjoyed it!
You resemble a combination of Dick Martin of Rowan&Martins Laugh In & Dennis Hopper.
Total envy. You realise that the Giro goes through and UP through those Dolomites? Aren't you lucky you're in Poss.?
Omg 😱 so lucky! We saw someone riding up to Tre Cime and thought that was impressive until we saw it was an e-bike!
"This does not look like Italy" Why Is the UK all the same North to south and East tò west dont think so . The same goes for any country .
The peaks look fake - like added in. Amazing shapes and look. The French Alps' drive is supposed to be spectacular too.
You’re right, they don’t look real! It’s so amazing when the clouds roll back
well I would call them: French Italian Alps (White Mountain for instance) and Switzerland-Italian Alps (the Matterhorn for instance) plus some uniquely Swiss Alps.
Welcome to the Dolomiti but definitely you cooked not a lasagna 😂😂😂
Trentino Alto Adige is formed by 2 provinces: Trento and Bolzano. The majority of the population speaks italian in the province of Trento and german in the province of Bolzano. So your statement that the majority of the population of Trentino Alto Adige speak german is wrong. If you sum both provinces, The majority speak italian. Go in google do the needed calculation and you will see I am right. ok?
Rainhold Messner and Iannik Sinner
I feel so sorry for the poor animals having those bells deafening them permanently. I reckon it's cruelty to animals! What a beautiful place! 😄
I know what you mean. They are SO loud. We felt for them too
Historical Tirol ( Nord, South, East and Welsctirol) should be a country, not Austrian or Italian, but more like Switzerland with three official languages, German, Italian and Ladin.
tutto molto bello tranne quelle lasagne
Woohoo you made it to the best part of Italy! 💯💯
And it doesn’t even feel like Italy!!
@@nigelandsueadventures Yep, and finally some proper food, no more pasta, pizza and gelato 😅😅
@@nigelandsueadventures it is Italy, of course
Beer is not german but tyrolean
how ignorant you are (US average). Alto Adige is also called Sud Tyrol, Trentino is Trentino and 100% Italian in terms of population an language. Study more before saying/writing something: it does no hurt, believe me. In addition,. Dolomites are also in Veneto (the region of Venezia), including Cortina, perhaps the best among the beauties of Dolomites.
Too aggressive, not the right way to educate
@@LaviniaBianchi-dz5jb To educate people who want to teach without knowing the facts that they want to teach?!?!?
@@paoloursino3054 showing the right thing being polite, it’s possible, believe me.
How ignorant you are to assume two Australians are "US average"!!
si chiama "Tirtl" e non tartaruga :)
In Italian language CHIUSA is pronunced "KIUSA", as "CHI" sounds "KI". It's Italian, not Spanish
Arghhh, you are right!! thank you!
Going to visit a monastery mocking a crucifix is a bit offensive
Gli altoatesini sono i terroni dell'Austria 🤣🤣
Alto Adige also known as South Tyrol. Trentino also known as Trentino
also know as Tirolo Occupato
@@suzzoman Austro Hungarian has lost World War I and as such South Tyrol among many other territories in Europe. History is history.
I also have my beautiful Dolomites, they are small but beautiful.. (province of Pordenone Italy). Here at minute 4,22. ua-cam.com/video/vVA83UVuvYA/v-deo.html
Il Tirolo in pochi kilometri si passa da una cultura ad un'altra cultura , o meglio da una montagna ad un'altra si cambia la cultura . In antichità le Alpi (Dolomiti ) sono state zone di rifugio delle popolazioni che vivevono nelle pianure a nord delle Alpi dalle invasioni provenienti dal est e dal estremo nord .
the
Italy has 3 main linguistic minorities
French, Germanic and Slovenian
All are officially recognized as part of the Italian nation
and all are protected
I as an Italian am proud of our ability to coexist with these minorities
and I feel they are Italians
There have been problems in the past but we are on our way to forgetting everything
ps
the architectural style of this type
is present almost everywhere in the Alpine regions of Italy
obviously each with particularities
but the mountain style is quite similar everywhere
I was just thinking last night how it's interesting that for a country that has only been unified 160 odd years that its basically the same language throughout. (with regional dialects of course)
@@nigelandsueadventures because latin developed into italoromance dialects, closely related to each others and to standard italian and that in 1300 chose standard italian as main variety for literature and only official language and were historically influenced by it in lexicon phonetics and morphology.
Linguistic unity and political unity are not the same thing. Slovenia for example has been existing since 1945 but the slovenian people has always existed.
The ethnic and linguistic minorities in italy are
Occitans
Arpitans
Walsers
Germans
Ladins
Mochenos
Cimbrians
Friulians
Slovenes
Catalans
Sardinians
Grikos
Grekanics
Croats
Albanians.
Me walking in Olvera Street, Los Angeles: "It's not very american here".😊
È più una parmigiana di verdure non lasagne
Avete fatto un bellissimo tour in Italia, ma purtroppo avete gustato poco la nostra cucina regionale. L' Italia non è solo pizza....ma voi non siete abituati ai nostri sapori
Pizza e vino? Ma che cazzzzzz....
South Tyrol is not Italy!
South Tyrol does not seem like Italy not only because of the language and the best architecture, but also because of the order and cleanliness, which is completely non-existent in the rest of the country.
🙂
So, just spend the rest of your life outside Italy and make all us happy
@guido1448 fa male la verità?
dal tuo nome non arrivi certo dal tirolo, ma da qualche tugurio dell'est europa
South Tyrol is not Italy; they aren't even able to speak correctly Italian. It's really a disgrace that we, I mean Italians of us, sacrificed so many lifes to gain that territory.
Austro Hungary empire has lost World War I as well as South Tyrol. It is a beautiful region and it is Italy. They speak good Italian sometimes better than in Sicily.
Südtirol is not Italy, in territory occuped from italy. We are 🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹 people.l
Ma perché gli austriaci non vi vogliono? Forse non sei mai stato in Austria e non sai come vi prendono in giro😂😂. Poveretti
@panterone1769 pensala come vuoi, ...😃😃😃😃.
fatene una ragione e rosica di meno. siete i terroni dell'austria
fatene una ragione e rosica di meno. siete considerati i ter roni dell'austria
Ridicoli
grande sudtirolo, un'oasi di civiltà tra i barbari italiani
Con i nostri soldi, informati meglio.
Ci sono anche gli ignoranti come te..
dove godono, "civilmente" si intende, dei vantaggi fiscali di essere una regione autonoma. LOL