We paint to be happy, so we should always be happy when painting. It is appreciated how members of the painting community, whose work and teaching skill we look up to such as yourself, have taken time recently to share the importance of practicing mental health while still stretching one's boundaries as an artist. Many thanks to you and other artists who emphasize enjoyment while chasing perfection. Keep up the great work.
Glad you had fun painting it and being 3rd in the world isnt a bad outcome 😅 You inspire and teach so many people to become better. There is no way that could fit on any shelf let alone a plaque
Congratulations. Thanks for sharing your trip to the awards ceremony but also your journey from chasing perfection to pleasing yourself. A lot of top performers get into the adrenaline of the win or alternatively competing due to a fear of failure as a motivation. Both of these motivations can have deleterious effects on your mental health. I think what you mean when you say you “paint for fun” is now you find the process of painting brings you happiness and not chasing an award. That being said I can understand wanting to enter a competition as a way of connecting with other painters and the community as well as getting feedback on your work at a high level and a chance to self evaluate as well.Thanks for putting things in perspective by talking about stepping away from painting and then returning for your own reasons and for sharing this.
Completely missed the point. I had not planned to enter Everchosen. I just happened to paint this mini I really enjoyed and - probably because of that did really well in the competition too. I didn't compete in anything for like 7 years before that. And I felt the negative feelings flare up again when I "only" placed third. I was putting the award up regardless, because I wanted to remember the fun I had and remind myself to paint for fun...but you probably don't care about any of this anyway because you just wanted to make a snarky comment towards someone you don't know anything about :)
@@trovarion No worries, I was kidding around. Sarcasm doesn’t always translate well in text. The joy of miniature painting is why most (if not all of us) do this. Competitions are a way to test ourselves for sure, but if the process isn’t enjoyable it’s worthless.
Great to hear you talk about how that chase to perfect models can be a real motivation killer. Its hit home like a hammer, and was just what I needed to hear right now! And congratulations on 3rd place. Really blown away by your work.
Thank you for always, always, showing yourself to us!! One of the best production videos that I have seen you do. I love being a part of this journey you are on and the benefit is my painting continues to improve! Thanks!
Wow, what an incredible experience! Thanks for sharing the journey! Congratulations! It is well rewarded as you're an incredible artist and an invaluable part of our community! Keep fighting the good fight and I appreciate you spending the time to help us all paint and live better!
Congratulations and well deserved! Always a joy to see what you've come up with. Just wish you were my neighbor so I could learn more from ya! Best of luck and thank you for all of the tutorials!
I would not like to have been a judge in this contest. All 3 entries were amazing and your message at the end is great. Fair, honest and i'm sure a lot of people can relate to it. As a resident of Nottingham i hope you enjoyed your weekend in my home city. It's not perfect but it's home!
Even though it's not what we're used to it was really fun to see a completely different format than usual. I absolutely love your mini, especially as a loyal nurgle follower
Ahhh wow I was at that event and sat in that Seminar with Darren L. I'd only just gotten back into painting so hadn't yet seen your channel. I like that I was in the same room as the Trovian legend 👌🖌️😊. Loved your Everchosen entry, certainly my favourite of the 3 (cos it's in my plastic stash 😁).
Once the chase for perfect drawing pictures has already killed in me all desire to do it. Watching at works of many modern CG painters I caught myself thinking that I could never achieve even an approximate result. It was a really big blow for me after which my Cintique has turned into a reminder of my old aspirations. Years after miniature painting gave me a second breath. It was different, but at the same time the same - enter to the world of creativity. And after such an experience the idea of not turning this hobby into torture was the main when I ask the question for myself whether I want to do it on a professional basis or not. My skills in this were not enough to make a living, but luckily, the work I am doing now I really enjoy, it gives me enough money to live and allows me to have such a hobby as painting miniatures. In this circumstances I can spend so much time on painting, as I wanted. Of course, I understand that this gives me some concessions to keep painting single model for a weeks without much progress as an artist, but at the same time, although a mountain of unpainted miniatures keep growing, I still love it and different fantasy and sci-fi scenarios are still live in my head.
I did giggle with the somber music as you slid your 3rd place(in the world) award ... right in-between your legion of golden deamons. Enjoy these vids alot.
I love all three, but yours is the best one for me. And with that said, you can avid the flickering for the next time in the images. I´ts a simple camera trick with fluorescent lights. ;-)
Great video and amazing painting skills. Lovely voice and everything. One quick question. At arround the 8 minute mark, what is the "camera table mount arm" called that is used in the background?
It's always disappointing to "not win" even if you do technically "win" an award - but even so, placing amongst a pantheon of the certified best painters in the world is something special. Sure, you're not Zeus, sitting at the top in a big marble throne, but you're right there next to him. One of the very few Best, with all the credentials to prove it.
Amazing paintjob by an amazing artist. And two other amazing paintjobs by amazing artists, too. Please don't get bitter about that. (And if so, don't show this on a video.) And while it is maybe a bit late, but: Merry Christmas!
Congrats Trovarion! Awesome result. Quick youtube tip (not sure if you already know it) but if you wanted the video to break up into chapters you need to put one of the timestamps in the description as "00:00." Really love the videos and they inspire and motivate me to paint!
Cooll too see comps happening again, what do you make of Robin Hood country? Nottingham is my home town :D Warhammer World is round the corner. well 20-30mins so not so round the corner lol
Ich gratuliere Sie! Ich wusste nicht, dass Sie Österreichisch waren ;-) Anyway, this look into the event was interesting, even if I wayyyy prefer your painting videos :-)
In case anyone else wondered what the message at 0:54 reads, it's "warp stabilization and speed cannot be applied to the same clip". Basically it's an adobe priemere warning message.
actually in my books your number 2 as far as miniature painters go you and one other dude are better than me in my opinion in a few years I'll be done my first major project lol
Was? Du bist Österreicher! Ich dachte wir können nur Schifahren. Da schwillt doch gleich meine patriotische Ader. Ich gratuliere dir recht herzlich. Schöne Grüße aus Niederösterreich.
Reminds us of the great sadness that was the end of Darren's UA-cam channel . . . crush our souls again why don't you? (wonder what will happen if/when WH+ comes crashing down). In all seriousness, this short video (especially the conclusions) are an important topic that doesn't often get the attention it deserves - this is supposed to be fun
Don't listen to him! It's all about the winning :D :D :D Whats the secret of increasing your chances of winning...easy...hunt down and kill your competition!
If I had to spend hundreds of hours on a model, I would simply pass away. I don't like basecoating. I don't like edge highlighting, but I do like the loosey goosey stuff between those two, and I enjoy having beautiful, painted models to look at in my display case! Spending 5 hours on a single trooper model is antithetical to that goal.
Take this as a grain of salt because I only have a background in art school and hobby painting, not competition painting (nevermind the fact I've never come close to winning a Golden Demon or Crystal Brush!). After having looked through the entries and seeing the winners, some thoughts: - It's obvious why the top 3 are in the top 3. They all excel on a technical level, from blending to texture. There's a few of the others that come close, but the top 3 push everything else out of the way. Brushstrokes are intentional when they show, the blending is seamless, and there's a clear understanding of composition and color theory. - I see what you mean about the base. 2nd. and 3rd. place seem like they're using a "stock" base, and while the 1st. place entry has a pillar included in the sculpt, the rest of the base is built around this to integrate it into a single piece. I think you could have inched out a 2nd. place finish if your model had done more in this aspect. As you said, you didn't do more on the base and it held back any story that could have been told. One of the things drilled into me by a professor was that you a) need to commit to the task fully, regardless of how you initially feel about it and b) you either make the time or you accept the piece will be unfinished. Running out of time can't be an excuse. - In other videos, I know you've talked about how GW's painting competitions have become more reluctant regarding conversions. Looking at the other entries, I see what you mean. There's a lot of stock models straight out of a GW kit. There's hardly (if any) conversions and only some light kit-bashing. But it made me wonder if judges get fatigued by seeing the same model? I'm not knowledgeable about the "meta" of competition painting, but there does seem to be one. There's over a dozen Bob Gillymens, Abaddons, and Rutgock Troll Goths pieces. The 1st. place entry I think is the only one of its kind in the entire gallery. There's only 2 or 3 other Myrmidons and maybe half a dozen Wurmspat. I wonder if you would have chosen a less popular kit if you would have placed higher? I don't think there's a single Dark Eldar or Dwarf Slayer entry. Those are just some thoughts I had watching this. Great job on making it that far! I hope this was a useful critique and I don't want to come off as dismissive of the hard work that went into getting an award. The model you entered has a lot of skill and thought put into it, and it shows.
It would be surely interesting to hear how many hours the others spent on their miniatures. I cannot imagine spending hundred hours on one mini, it just wouldn't be fun, I don't think any competition's worth that.
Ahh 2019, when the world was still relatively normal and other humans werent concidered plague carriers that could kill each other just by breating the same air
To this day I’m angry that Darren’s channel was deleted because of stupid Warhammer+ and GW. I literally downloaded all of his videos, because they all are amazing.
@@trovarion of course, I just thought maybe you cut that out because it said, 3rd place, and then cut to black. Congrats on your awards though man, you have a real talent sir!
You may have ranked 3rd in GW's competition but here you're everybody's #1 Austrian painter. At least I think so...
mhmm I think there are still some people who think someone else is #1 austrian painter...even though this person died long ago...
@@TierDrama somehow I think you might no necessarily mean Klimt...
Wait! I thought Trovarion was German! I didn’t know he was Australian! G’day mate!
@@gorganhorn6872 Austrian, lol
We paint to be happy, so we should always be happy when painting. It is appreciated how members of the painting community, whose work and teaching skill we look up to such as yourself, have taken time recently to share the importance of practicing mental health while still stretching one's boundaries as an artist. Many thanks to you and other artists who emphasize enjoyment while chasing perfection. Keep up the great work.
Glad you had fun painting it and being 3rd in the world isnt a bad outcome 😅 You inspire and teach so many people to become better. There is no way that could fit on any shelf let alone a plaque
Congratulations. Thanks for sharing your trip to the awards ceremony but also your journey from chasing perfection to pleasing yourself. A lot of top performers get into the adrenaline of the win or alternatively competing due to a fear of failure as a motivation. Both of these motivations can have deleterious effects on your mental health. I think what you mean when you say you “paint for fun” is now you find the process of painting brings you happiness and not chasing an award. That being said I can understand wanting to enter a competition as a way of connecting with other painters and the community as well as getting feedback on your work at a high level and a chance to self evaluate as well.Thanks for putting things in perspective by talking about stepping away from painting and then returning for your own reasons and for sharing this.
“Painting for joy is my personal key to happiness.” Takes award and displays it amongst a forest of golden daemons…
😁 Yeah, but maybe golden daemons make you happy-I will never know...
Completely missed the point. I had not planned to enter Everchosen. I just happened to paint this mini I really enjoyed and - probably because of that did really well in the competition too. I didn't compete in anything for like 7 years before that. And I felt the negative feelings flare up again when I "only" placed third. I was putting the award up regardless, because I wanted to remember the fun I had and remind myself to paint for fun...but you probably don't care about any of this anyway because you just wanted to make a snarky comment towards someone you don't know anything about :)
@@trovarion No worries, I was kidding around. Sarcasm doesn’t always translate well in text. The joy of miniature painting is why most (if not all of us) do this. Competitions are a way to test ourselves for sure, but if the process isn’t enjoyable it’s worthless.
@@hobbithubby5076 sorry I misunderstood then!
Great to hear you talk about how that chase to perfect models can be a real motivation killer. Its hit home like a hammer, and was just what I needed to hear right now!
And congratulations on 3rd place. Really blown away by your work.
Thank you for always, always, showing yourself to us!! One of the best production videos that I have seen you do. I love being a part of this journey you are on and the benefit is my painting continues to improve! Thanks!
Wow, what an incredible experience! Thanks for sharing the journey! Congratulations! It is well rewarded as you're an incredible artist and an invaluable part of our community! Keep fighting the good fight and I appreciate you spending the time to help us all paint and live better!
Great watch! And congratulations, even just being able to truly compete at this high of a level deserves respect.
Congratulations and well deserved! Always a joy to see what you've come up with. Just wish you were my neighbor so I could learn more from ya! Best of luck and thank you for all of the tutorials!
I would not like to have been a judge in this contest. All 3 entries were amazing and your message at the end is great. Fair, honest and i'm sure a lot of people can relate to it.
As a resident of Nottingham i hope you enjoyed your weekend in my home city. It's not perfect but it's home!
Well done man you've been an inspiration for me for so many long years now!
Even though it's not what we're used to it was really fun to see a completely different format than usual. I absolutely love your mini, especially as a loyal nurgle follower
You're such a champion. Its a delight to watch your work but also the travel was fun lol. I belive you'll keep growing.
Congratulations 👏🏻 🎉🎉🎉 most of us just dream of getting a prize like that. As you said it is about the journey…thanks for the video
Probabaly the best terrain video I've ever seen, thank you.
I definitely agree with your conclusions! Also loved the mini, and I have a real craving to visit Warhammer World now…
A well deserved reward, youve been active in the community for years and its been past due that you got this accolade
Ahhh wow I was at that event and sat in that Seminar with Darren L. I'd only just gotten back into painting so hadn't yet seen your channel. I like that I was in the same room as the Trovian legend 👌🖌️😊.
Loved your Everchosen entry, certainly my favourite of the 3 (cos it's in my plastic stash 😁).
Wonderful work, glad it was recognized. Placement rewards you immensely and leaves some room to shoot for if wanted.
Once the chase for perfect drawing pictures has already killed in me all desire to do it. Watching at works of many modern CG painters I caught myself thinking that I could never achieve even an approximate result. It was a really big blow for me after which my Cintique has turned into a reminder of my old aspirations.
Years after miniature painting gave me a second breath. It was different, but at the same time the same - enter to the world of creativity.
And after such an experience the idea of not turning this hobby into torture was the main when I ask the question for myself whether I want to do it on a professional basis or not.
My skills in this were not enough to make a living, but luckily, the work I am doing now I really enjoy, it gives me enough money to live and allows me to have such a hobby as painting miniatures.
In this circumstances I can spend so much time on painting, as I wanted. Of course, I understand that this gives me some concessions to keep painting single model for a weeks without much progress as an artist, but at the same time, although a mountain of unpainted miniatures keep growing, I still love it and different fantasy and sci-fi scenarios are still live in my head.
I did giggle with the somber music as you slid your 3rd place(in the world) award ... right in-between your legion of golden deamons. Enjoy these vids alot.
Looks like great trip and experience ! Wish I was at this level :)
Congrats Christoph!
Fantastic piece.
Love your key to happiness Christoph! I couldn’t agree more!
I love all three, but yours is the best one for me. And with that said, you can avid the flickering for the next time in the images. I´ts a simple camera trick with fluorescent lights. ;-)
Great video! Enjoyed it thoroughly! You did something I wish I could do.
Great video and amazing painting skills. Lovely voice and everything. One quick question. At arround the 8 minute mark, what is the "camera table mount arm" called that is used in the background?
It's always disappointing to "not win" even if you do technically "win" an award - but even so, placing amongst a pantheon of the certified best painters in the world is something special. Sure, you're not Zeus, sitting at the top in a big marble throne, but you're right there next to him. One of the very few Best, with all the credentials to prove it.
Love the "on the road" part of the video!
Congrats!!! great paint job and great place!
Amazing paintjob by an amazing artist. And two other amazing paintjobs by amazing artists, too.
Please don't get bitter about that. (And if so, don't show this on a video.)
And while it is maybe a bit late, but: Merry Christmas!
Ah! Sacré peintres Français ,alwways stealing the show !
Love your artminipaint Trovarion,helps me a looooot !👍❤
Congrats Trovarion! Awesome result. Quick youtube tip (not sure if you already know it) but if you wanted the video to break up into chapters you need to put one of the timestamps in the description as "00:00." Really love the videos and they inspire and motivate me to paint!
thanks for pointing it out, youtube ate my whole description, including the first two rows of the index :)
Congratulations 🎉. Looks like a fun trip.
You may be the third best WH painter on this planet, but you're my personal number one!
Well done mate - CONGRATULATIONS!!!
You only had 6 days to work on it and still placed 3rd in the world? Dude... impressive :D
Cooll too see comps happening again, what do you make of Robin Hood country? Nottingham is my home town :D Warhammer World is round the corner. well 20-30mins so not so round the corner lol
This is from 2019 :)
Would be awsome to attend an event like that some day. Love your content
we are all different and that's beautiful.
Congrats! I'm actually more upset that y'all got to run around without masks on. Super jealous.
It was definitely weird editing this footage and only seeing people with no masks
Congratulations, Great Job!!!
Hey, I think Squidmar has some of that cheap terrain you where talking about!
Ich gratuliere Sie! Ich wusste nicht, dass Sie Österreichisch waren ;-)
Anyway, this look into the event was interesting, even if I wayyyy prefer your painting videos :-)
In case anyone else wondered what the message at 0:54 reads, it's "warp stabilization and speed cannot be applied to the same clip". Basically it's an adobe priemere warning message.
Premiere pro screwed me over once again.
@@trovarion 3 weeks late, but don't let it worry you! Stuff like that happens. It's no big deal. :) Loved your video!
A great video, thanks for having sharing this
We all know this guy is awesome.
Ooh well done. Looks great 😉
Congrats from Indonesia.
happy for u mate!
Hey! Great content! What paint brushes do you use?
It's in the description of the video!
Herzlichen Glückwunsch!!
❤️❤️❤️
actually in my books your number 2 as far as miniature painters go you and one other dude are better than me in my opinion in a few years I'll be done my first major project lol
Well in the world out of the people who entered.
Yeah, no shit sherlock 🤣
Was? Du bist Österreicher! Ich dachte wir können nur Schifahren. Da schwillt doch gleich meine patriotische Ader. Ich gratuliere dir recht herzlich. Schöne Grüße aus Niederösterreich.
Great video with an awesome message 👍.
I remember at the time thinking you should have won. I still think that. They are all awesome pieces though.
this is really cool
Great job man!
I love you and your videos so much
is that shadow of the horned rat music lol :D
Reminds us of the great sadness that was the end of Darren's UA-cam channel . . . crush our souls again why don't you? (wonder what will happen if/when WH+ comes crashing down). In all seriousness, this short video (especially the conclusions) are an important topic that doesn't often get the attention it deserves - this is supposed to be fun
Don't listen to him! It's all about the winning :D :D :D Whats the secret of increasing your chances of winning...easy...hunt down and kill your competition!
If I had to spend hundreds of hours on a model, I would simply pass away. I don't like basecoating. I don't like edge highlighting, but I do like the loosey goosey stuff between those two, and I enjoy having beautiful, painted models to look at in my display case! Spending 5 hours on a single trooper model is antithetical to that goal.
Well done, dear Austrian neighbour!
Never mind, at least you have nice pan pipe melodies to listen to 🤘🏻
True that!
You're a beautiful human being
Take this as a grain of salt because I only have a background in art school and hobby painting, not competition painting (nevermind the fact I've never come close to winning a Golden Demon or Crystal Brush!). After having looked through the entries and seeing the winners, some thoughts:
- It's obvious why the top 3 are in the top 3. They all excel on a technical level, from blending to texture. There's a few of the others that come close, but the top 3 push everything else out of the way. Brushstrokes are intentional when they show, the blending is seamless, and there's a clear understanding of composition and color theory.
- I see what you mean about the base. 2nd. and 3rd. place seem like they're using a "stock" base, and while the 1st. place entry has a pillar included in the sculpt, the rest of the base is built around this to integrate it into a single piece. I think you could have inched out a 2nd. place finish if your model had done more in this aspect. As you said, you didn't do more on the base and it held back any story that could have been told. One of the things drilled into me by a professor was that you a) need to commit to the task fully, regardless of how you initially feel about it and b) you either make the time or you accept the piece will be unfinished. Running out of time can't be an excuse.
- In other videos, I know you've talked about how GW's painting competitions have become more reluctant regarding conversions. Looking at the other entries, I see what you mean. There's a lot of stock models straight out of a GW kit. There's hardly (if any) conversions and only some light kit-bashing. But it made me wonder if judges get fatigued by seeing the same model? I'm not knowledgeable about the "meta" of competition painting, but there does seem to be one. There's over a dozen Bob Gillymens, Abaddons, and Rutgock Troll Goths pieces. The 1st. place entry I think is the only one of its kind in the entire gallery. There's only 2 or 3 other Myrmidons and maybe half a dozen Wurmspat. I wonder if you would have chosen a less popular kit if you would have placed higher? I don't think there's a single Dark Eldar or Dwarf Slayer entry.
Those are just some thoughts I had watching this. Great job on making it that far! I hope this was a useful critique and I don't want to come off as dismissive of the hard work that went into getting an award. The model you entered has a lot of skill and thought put into it, and it shows.
Nice one son
Verkrümmungsstabilisierung und Geschwindigkeit können nicht auf den selben Clip angewendet werden.
It would be surely interesting to hear how many hours the others spent on their miniatures. I cannot imagine spending hundred hours on one mini, it just wouldn't be fun, I don't think any competition's worth that.
Everyone's definition of fun is different.
Ahh 2019, when the world was still relatively normal and other humans werent concidered plague carriers that could kill each other just by breating the same air
I hear painting those swords is a bitch anyways. Still, third is pretty good
To this day I’m angry that Darren’s channel was deleted because of stupid Warhammer+ and GW. I literally downloaded all of his videos, because they all are amazing.
Like and comment to appease the almighty algorithm 👍🏼
Warte. Du Kommst aus Österreich??
Denke schon? 🤔
I'm sorry you had to go to nottingham
Verkrümmungsstabilisierung und Geschwindigkeit können nicht auf den selben Clip angewandt werden. Now we know.
Did you edit your real name out from the screen that showed you win 😂?
Everyone that knows how to google knows my real name, why would I edit it out?
@@trovarion of course, I just thought maybe you cut that out because it said, 3rd place, and then cut to black.
Congrats on your awards though man, you have a real talent sir!
Who is regarded as the best in the world?
FIRST
doesnt matter
Please stop the meta random zooming!
"Some ex youtuber". Sad face, indeed
Sadest of faces
I really don't understand why people put that amoutn of work into painting terrain...
because terrain can bring it all together