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  • @wouterr3736
    @wouterr3736 10 днів тому +784

    Anyone else knows the rules but still watching this video😂

  • @Vroblo
    @Vroblo 10 днів тому +707

    2:38 Frogland is ROBBED 😭😭😭

    • @bobbywrtm
      @bobbywrtm 10 днів тому

      everybody hates Frogland because they are invading Snailistan and Wormistan

    • @EurovisionSongContest
      @EurovisionSongContest  10 днів тому +303

      Justice for the toads!

    • @zanneoxfr3265
      @zanneoxfr3265 10 днів тому +11

      @@EurovisionSongContest god

    • @escupdates
      @escupdates 10 днів тому +8

      @@EurovisionSongContestREALL

    • @Charis_Charalambous
      @Charis_Charalambous 10 днів тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @user-qr9di8cw2f
    @user-qr9di8cw2f 8 днів тому +40

    When I have children, this is going to be the first educational video they will watch

  • @elveon939
    @elveon939 10 днів тому +343

    Loving this audio recorded by Petra Mede on her phone

  • @NickVid-un1js
    @NickVid-un1js 10 днів тому +118

    I think that this year we have the most unpredictable Eurovision of the last decade! Good luck to all the countries from Greece 🇬🇷❤️

    • @dimidrugg9592
      @dimidrugg9592 10 днів тому

      2014 & 2018 say hello.

    • @Denis-89
      @Denis-89 10 днів тому +4

      @@dimidrugg9592 2014 was not really unpredictable though since everybody knew who would win.
      2011 however that was unpredictable

    • @dimidrugg9592
      @dimidrugg9592 10 днів тому +1

      @Denis-89 In 2014 Austria was nowhere near the top of the odds prior to rehearsals. Also Israel was in odds top 5 and didn't qualify.

    • @Denis-89
      @Denis-89 10 днів тому

      @@dimidrugg9592 it was not unpredictable if a clear winner arrives during parties or rehersal, which it did in 2014
      And in 2018 Netta was the clear favourite to win from the start. This year is more unpredictable since we even after pre parties still have no clear winner

    • @dimidrugg9592
      @dimidrugg9592 10 днів тому +1

      @Denis-89 I wasn't talking about winning only. 2018 had many shock NQs.
      Also if you're talking about pre-parties not making the winner obvious then you have to mention 2021.

  • @esc_stan
    @esc_stan 10 днів тому +146

    THE VOICE IS PETRA MEDE 😍

    • @escahmet7487
      @escahmet7487 10 днів тому +4

      I totally agree with you❤❤❤

  • @evertonpereira14
    @evertonpereira14 10 днів тому +34

    Already preparing my "rest of the world" vote. It's so exiting to be part of it, even if it's just a little bit. Greetings from Brazil.

  • @BreakingViewsNL
    @BreakingViewsNL 10 днів тому +47

    The only change in this years voting rules, is Petra being the voice over of this video 😅

  • @perperella
    @perperella 10 днів тому +7

    You forgot to mention that this year Big5 + Winner countries will perfom live in the semi-finals, between other acts but people can't vote for them. I'm sure that many people will be confused by this change :D

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому +5

      Yes, that wasn’t mentioned at all.... They should have mentioned it, especially as it’s a new thing this year.

  • @adelasgar
    @adelasgar 10 днів тому +48

    Me: who knows everything about voting
    Also me: 🍿🍿🍿

  • @GoldenGlobeSongContest
    @GoldenGlobeSongContest 10 днів тому +50

    Well, when you ring for the televote you hear phone doing Ram Tim Tagi Dim sound 🤣💗🇭🇷

    • @muddyfeet69
      @muddyfeet69 10 днів тому +1

      This video was made for the voters from the USA & Canada. All other people worldwide already knew how the voting will work. 😊😅😂😂

  • @Escmember2
    @Escmember2 10 днів тому +29

    12 points to Greece from UK 🤍💙

  • @TimeForEurovision
    @TimeForEurovision 10 днів тому +26

    I like How they just used the exactly same video as last year. Only new thing is Petra speaking on her phone. 😂

  • @BrandonAltman-ys9sm
    @BrandonAltman-ys9sm 10 днів тому +24

    My mind during the video: Ta ta ta ta
    Love you Marina ! Cant wait to see you in Malmo🤍💙

  • @xDogzYT
    @xDogzYT 10 днів тому +15

    Yes Rules 😫

  • @MishaSmolnikov
    @MishaSmolnikov 10 днів тому +11

    Eurovision Song Contest 2024 Malmö
    7,9,11 May at 21:00 CEST

  • @xtilvare
    @xtilvare 20 годин тому +1

    Starcountry 2025 🎉❤ 2:39

  • @matijagluhinic
    @matijagluhinic 10 днів тому +7

    Where is Eurovision 2024 rehearsal schedule?

  • @ferhatalacayr9688
    @ferhatalacayr9688 10 днів тому +9

    12 points go to İTALY, 10 points go to Switzerland, 8 points go to Crotia ( FROM TURKİYE)

    • @muddyfeet69
      @muddyfeet69 10 днів тому

      100% agree with you. When does Turkey come back to the ESC? We miss you and we need you.

    • @HaktanAli-24
      @HaktanAli-24 8 днів тому +1

      2028, if erdoğan loses​@@muddyfeet69

  • @marijkes2653
    @marijkes2653 10 днів тому +6

    12 points to The Netherlands ❤🤍💙🇳🇱
    #joostkleindroomgroot

  • @ninosikharulidze16
    @ninosikharulidze16 10 днів тому +6

    12 points from Georgia! Good luck from Georgia!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @gameoverb_tch
    @gameoverb_tch 10 днів тому +39

    the fact i know all the rules by memory but i still watch this breaks my heart, like CAN THE FROG REPUBLIC GET A TOP 3 FOR ONCE 😭

  • @WesleyTRVOfficial
    @WesleyTRVOfficial 10 днів тому +14

    12 points to the Netherlands 🇳🇱

  • @escahmet7487
    @escahmet7487 10 днів тому +4

    I am so happy to hear Petra Mede's voice again. I am so exciting for ESC 2024 ❤❤❤

  • @rexation8952
    @rexation8952 10 днів тому +3

    Was hoping for specifics on voting timeframes with regards to voters in "Rest of the World"
    But, instead...we got information that we always know and are mostly reminded of at the beginning of shows by the hosts in the 2 international languages.

  • @ConESC24
    @ConESC24 5 днів тому

    In the UK we cannot vote using the app

  • @zamarco2
    @zamarco2 10 днів тому +4

    I hope that the june this year will have less influence given the controversies of last year and the problems that there were.

  • @unaberg
    @unaberg 10 днів тому +14

    love hearing some petra mede in her british accent

  • @lidija7909
    @lidija7909 10 днів тому +9

    12 points go to Croatia

  • @jonathanlopez_es
    @jonathanlopez_es 9 днів тому

    So this year the country spokesperson's will give the 10 and 12 points separately or they'll only give the 12 points?

  • @italianjesus99
    @italianjesus99 10 днів тому +6

    Still convinced Sweden only won last year so the 50th anniversary would be in Sweden with ABBA making an appearance…

    • @fransgreidanus6982
      @fransgreidanus6982 10 днів тому +1

      I see your point, but Sweden gets many jury points every year no matter what they send. Even if it is the same sh*t they always send. Having Loreen participating againnn, honey, Sweden was swimming. They would've won either way, with or without the 50 year of Abba

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому +1

      Loreen's victory had nothing to do with Abba.

  • @jaekamei
    @jaekamei 10 днів тому +6

    Will the Livestream be available in my region? ( Australia ).

    • @lostmindCroatia
      @lostmindCroatia 10 днів тому +2

      Yes

    • @JamieMurphy25
      @JamieMurphy25 10 днів тому

      Isn't SBS airing the contest in the morning your time?

    • @dhilandass7986
      @dhilandass7986 10 днів тому

      yh but it'll be quite early in the morning (which state r u from??)

    • @jaekamei
      @jaekamei 10 днів тому

      @@JamieMurphy25 I believe so but I remember the last contest the UA-cam Livestream was unavailable, which was very disappointing.

    • @jaekamei
      @jaekamei 10 днів тому

      @@dhilandass7986 VIC. Hoping it's available on UA-cam though.

  • @myjunkdrawer8014
    @myjunkdrawer8014 10 днів тому +4

    How does voting work? Well it’s somewhere between soccer and whose line is it anyway rules

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 10 днів тому

      That depends on your country. They tell you how to vote on that night. Call or text

  • @OFFsqr
    @OFFsqr 10 днів тому +4

    Why they picked Frog for Germany?

  • @Lukas_H_11
    @Lukas_H_11 10 днів тому +2

    Hi

  • @JamieMurphy25
    @JamieMurphy25 10 днів тому +1

    Worth noting the ways to vote varies by country, where I live in the UK, it's telephone vote only, no SMS votes.

    • @ConESC24
      @ConESC24 10 днів тому

      Does anyone know why that is? Just interested!

  • @KuschelziegeNuri
    @KuschelziegeNuri 10 днів тому +5

    "To make things fair, viewers can only vote in the semi final, that their own country country is participating or performing in."
    🤨
    That is not, what I would call fair. It is the opposite. If your favorite song is in the other semi final, you can't vote for it. Why should this be fair? And why are the pre-qualified countries split over the semi finals, while" Rest Of The World" isn't?
    Where is the sense?😩

    • @misha_charny25
      @misha_charny25 9 днів тому +1

      it would be more logical if you could vote your points went to the country of the audience of the other semi-final

    • @KuschelziegeNuri
      @KuschelziegeNuri 9 днів тому +1

      @@misha_charny25 Wouldn't be ideal, but more logical than that.

    • @King_Cardboard
      @King_Cardboard 9 днів тому

      It is fair, because otherwise voting blocks would mess up the results

    • @KuschelziegeNuri
      @KuschelziegeNuri 9 днів тому +1

      @@King_Cardboard How would it mess up the results?

    • @King_Cardboard
      @King_Cardboard 9 днів тому

      @@KuschelziegeNuri Because a lot of people would vote for an act just because its from a certain country, and that wouldn't make for a fair result. This is also the reason that countries are divided into certain groups during the semi final allocation draw

  • @andin3410
    @andin3410 10 днів тому +7

    Rule 1:
    Vote for Estonia!! 🇪🇪🇪🇪

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому +1

      Rule 2:
      Vote for France! 🇫🇷

  • @toffeeoliver
    @toffeeoliver 10 днів тому +16

    like this comment if your eurovision 2024 winner is moldova or if you need oxygen to survive

  • @Kris_96
    @Kris_96 9 днів тому

    Is that Petras voice?

  • @gabriyiel03
    @gabriyiel03 10 днів тому

    Nice animations and also nice voice ❤❤❤

  • @PartyContest
    @PartyContest 10 днів тому +2

    Kudos to whoever has to animate these lmao

  • @LOVE-xw8yb
    @LOVE-xw8yb 10 днів тому +4

    希望瑞士可以拿到今年欧洲歌唱大赛冠军。

  • @gardenaddict
    @gardenaddict 10 днів тому +3

    NOT amused at being unable to vote in BOTH semi finals 🤬 honestly what was wrong with the old system🤷 i realise automatic qualifiers performing effect system, but surely a better solution could be found.🤔 maybe i should move to the rest of the world 🤣

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому

      If you vote in the category "Rest of the world" you can vote in both semis. And in the final of course.

  • @jason256-8
    @jason256-8 10 днів тому +1

    I’ll see you all in 2 weeks! You know what that means? Worries and politics away, and let’s get #UnitedByMusic!

  • @FlyingTurtleLP
    @FlyingTurtleLP 10 днів тому +4

    TL;DR: We vote and the country that the jury picks, wins XD #TheESC2023Experience

    • @user-vg5fs4yc3l
      @user-vg5fs4yc3l 10 днів тому +1

      That’s what you deserve. If you learned how to vote properly, you wouldn’t be mad at the juries.

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому

      No, the song that gets the most votes wins.

  • @matijagluhinic
    @matijagluhinic 10 днів тому +10

    Meow 🐈

  • @user-pe7gi6jc8h
    @user-pe7gi6jc8h 10 днів тому +4

    This voice is belong to Petra I think

  • @leahrowden3939
    @leahrowden3939 10 днів тому +4

    Who’s that lady talking?

    • @marq7302
      @marq7302 10 днів тому +9

      Sounds like Petra Mede to me.

    • @leahrowden3939
      @leahrowden3939 10 днів тому +1

      @@marq7302 How’d you know that?

    • @quietschbeu_esc
      @quietschbeu_esc 10 днів тому +4

      @@leahrowden3939 it’s definitely her.
      We can remember it from the last years 😁

    • @unaberg
      @unaberg 10 днів тому

      Miss Petra Mede ❤

  • @omegothic
    @omegothic 10 днів тому +3

    i'm not voting this year (voted for finland 20 times last year and look what happened 💀) but yeah sure

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 10 днів тому +1

      Yeah right you're just one person. 20 times voting will not make them win. Perhaps you should have asked for help not just yourself next time.

    • @polariginal
      @polariginal 10 днів тому

      literally record breaking televote numbers and still lost.

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 10 днів тому

      @@polariginal nah Ukraine still have the highest amount of televote

    • @omegothic
      @omegothic 10 днів тому

      @@arvinroidoatienza7082 i did ask for help but all i got was either "i liked finland so much i voted for them THREE times... wait you voted TWENTY times❓" or *was online 15 minutes ago*
      anyway, it wouldn't have changed much, my country gave finland 10 points and 12 points for the last few years goes to poland regardless of what they send so i'm just gonna go back to not voting

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому

      ​@@omegothicCalm down, it's just a tv-show, a game just for fun.

  • @willewiking98
    @willewiking98 10 днів тому +4

    im here for petra

  • @Tofiurka
    @Tofiurka 10 днів тому

    I never vote but that video is very helpful 😅

  • @Miko_sweetie162
    @Miko_sweetie162 10 днів тому +4

    Petra? Is that you?

  • @esccyprus
    @esccyprus 10 днів тому +5

    Vote for Ireland🇮🇪💚

    • @sinead187
      @sinead187 10 днів тому +2

      12 points to Ireland 🇮🇪

    • @JamieMurphy25
      @JamieMurphy25 10 днів тому +2

      You'll be please to know the United Kingdom is voting in the semi-finals Ireland will appear in.

    • @keitaro-kun2373
      @keitaro-kun2373 10 днів тому +1

      Yeah 😍

  • @doyourmath826
    @doyourmath826 10 днів тому +2

    Sun on purple -Land was an obvious Jury bait , hope double yellow cross wins this one after televote

    • @keitaro-kun2373
      @keitaro-kun2373 10 днів тому

      Sunset in a Red hill >>>>> 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @alexbanks9510
    @alexbanks9510 10 днів тому +1

    Was hoping for some nice new graphics, instead i got "we'll pin this to the fridge"

  • @lukasmeister7459
    @lukasmeister7459 10 днів тому +2

    I am ready for voting Croatia. 12 Points from Germany. Hope that the so called professionals are professional and give Croatia some points they deserved.

  • @Charis_Charalambous
    @Charis_Charalambous 10 днів тому +4

    ❤ Can we all vote once for Cyprus 🇨🇾 please? 😇

  • @rllycooleditz417
    @rllycooleditz417 10 днів тому +4

    PETRA!!!

  • @ConESC24
    @ConESC24 10 днів тому +2

    Frog Republic last AGAIN!? 😭🐸💔 why can't they get enough points!?

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому

      Justice for the Frog Republic! 😂

  • @lenaomoer2046
    @lenaomoer2046 10 днів тому +1

    Whe your country is is second semi final ( Norway) and you cant vote for your winer because the act is in semi final 1 ( Serbia(

    • @LinaOmer-bt2rm
      @LinaOmer-bt2rm 10 днів тому

      This and we have almost the same name😂

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому +1

      You hope for the best and vote for them in the final ... if they qualify.

  • @Richardsonprincess00
    @Richardsonprincess00 10 днів тому +4

    Can world wide global vote?

  • @rageguy311
    @rageguy311 10 днів тому

    Who collects the fees from the voter? What do they do w/ that money?

  • @SanityBox
    @SanityBox 8 днів тому +1

    How rest of the world voting is working - Can Russians vote to?

  • @Denis-89
    @Denis-89 10 днів тому +4

    I watch everything with Petra Mede in, even if it is jsut featuring her voice

  • @Slay_Binnie
    @Slay_Binnie 10 днів тому

    Where can I vote song

  • @rjrball1227
    @rjrball1227 10 днів тому +3

    are the votes free

    • @spellbrand477
      @spellbrand477 10 днів тому

      Not sure if they changed that, but previously no, they aren't.

  • @RAM1DARPO
    @RAM1DARPO 10 днів тому

    Where we vote ? Which application ?

    • @spellbrand477
      @spellbrand477 10 днів тому +1

      In their app during the contest.

  • @luthenrael4523
    @luthenrael4523 10 днів тому +1

    12 points go to Belgium 🇧🇪

  • @lithuaniangirl6755
    @lithuaniangirl6755 10 днів тому

    question regarding “the rest of the world”.. so the voting will be on the Eurovision app?

  • @aengusprice8869
    @aengusprice8869 10 днів тому

    Had a heart attack that they were going to change it

  • @bjkoyt
    @bjkoyt 10 днів тому

    you know esc is getting close when this video gets uploaded

  • @EurovisionKris
    @EurovisionKris 10 днів тому

    I want Sara Siipola for Finland so badly because I dont have fav song this year sadly if she compete I would vote for Finland. It hurts a lot…

  • @Hale.
    @Hale. 10 днів тому +20

    “How does the voting work?”
    It’s simple: vote for Estonia TALINN 2025 CAN BE REAL 🇪🇪🎻🗣️🦅🔥🗣️🦅🦅🦅🗣️🗣️🎻🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🦅🦅🗣️🎻🦅🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🦅🗣️🗣️🎻🗣️🇪🇪🇪🇪🎻🎻🎻🎻🎻🇪🇪🗣️🔥🔥🦅🗣️🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪🇪

  • @TheFddsfs
    @TheFddsfs 10 днів тому +24

    Bring back the juries in the semi finals!

    • @user-vg5fs4yc3l
      @user-vg5fs4yc3l 10 днів тому +3

      Literally. Poland 3rd and Estonia 10th during semi 2 last year. This is the level of the average viewer.

    • @im.joeyb.
      @im.joeyb. 10 днів тому

      Y'all can never let things be. Remember when people wanted to get rid of the juries from 2023 onwards?

  • @MaximiliaanvanRooij
    @MaximiliaanvanRooij 5 днів тому

    I couldn’t stop laughing and pay attention because of the made up countries and map 🤣

  • @hemulen1209
    @hemulen1209 10 днів тому +4

    Is it still 50/50 or did you not have enough conscience to reduce the jury points?

  • @MrAndreOliveir
    @MrAndreOliveir 10 днів тому +1

    The land of sunset deserved more.😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @arturpro3329
    @arturpro3329 10 днів тому +9

    12 points to the Armenians 🇦🇲 🇦🇲 🇦🇲 🇦🇲 🇦🇲

  • @gevorgpetrosyan8408
    @gevorgpetrosyan8408 10 днів тому

    1:33 wiwibloggs gets only 8 points? All time favs!

  • @bejbaitskajnakrejza
    @bejbaitskajnakrejza 10 днів тому +1

    no bajookieland representation smh ebu

  • @adrianelias2365
    @adrianelias2365 10 днів тому

    Hi Petra

  • @Ddaarkness
    @Ddaarkness 10 днів тому +1

    12 POINT TO AZERBAİJAN🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿❤❤❤❤❤

  • @valeckseimu3132
    @valeckseimu3132 10 днів тому +2

    No change After the disappointment for Kaarijan second place ?

    • @kimaspegren9690
      @kimaspegren9690 10 днів тому +4

      So you want EBU to change the voting system because käärija became sad last year? xD

    • @RollingSkyMaster
      @RollingSkyMaster 10 днів тому +6

      imagine still crying about kaarija loosing🤣🤣🤣

    • @kimaspegren9690
      @kimaspegren9690 10 днів тому +4

      @@RollingSkyMaster Hahah yess, käärija fans are so embarrasing😂😂😂

    • @user-vg5fs4yc3l
      @user-vg5fs4yc3l 10 днів тому

      Lol, in fact if any changes are about to be made then juries should be brought during the semi finals as well.

    • @kimaspegren9690
      @kimaspegren9690 10 днів тому

      @@user-vg5fs4yc3l Agree 100%! But käärija fans want EBU to change the whole voting system just because their winner did not win!

  • @spellbrand477
    @spellbrand477 10 днів тому

    Why do you not mention that you have to pay to vote?

  • @user-zc6rc4mu3f
    @user-zc6rc4mu3f 10 днів тому

    Vote for Malta

  • @FFFlemish
    @FFFlemish 10 днів тому

    Frogland should have won 2:38

  • @harmonicontrast
    @harmonicontrast 10 днів тому

    I don’t like the thing that there too much attention for jury’s votes. It would be more respectful to show public votes separately from each country, that’s how we will honour true favourites and give them deserved attention on live.

    • @dragonblossom-qw2pl
      @dragonblossom-qw2pl 10 днів тому +1

      Netherlands can't beat in jury Ukraine Italy or similar other with better voice vocal than joosh sorry but proballyesc alverdy know winner

  • @yvettakollega5791
    @yvettakollega5791 10 днів тому

    So, basically, people from non-participating countries can vote in all 3 events, whereas people from participating countries can only vote in 2, meaning that people from non-participating countries have more of a say in determining results. How brilliant!

    • @Quzinqa1122
      @Quzinqa1122 10 днів тому

      No, anyone in any country in the world can vote in both semis and in the final if they vote in the category "Rest of the world".

  • @natashacunningham8401
    @natashacunningham8401 10 днів тому +1

    QUEEN PETRA!✨🫶🇸🇪

  • @ksenija_out
    @ksenija_out 10 днів тому

    does voting cost money?

    • @dreamzscape_
      @dreamzscape_ 10 днів тому

      Yes, it depends on which country you live in. For example in 2023, Estonia had theirs cost 1.80€, whereas San Marino's cost 0.15€

  • @MarceloPerdigon-jm3vh
    @MarceloPerdigon-jm3vh 10 днів тому +1

    Switzerland 🇨🇭❤🏳️‍🌈🇺🇾 Uruguay

  • @jhailavie2548
    @jhailavie2548 10 днів тому

    Is this a sign that Germany is winning? The closing animations are the same as those for Isaak’s live performance

  • @misha_charny25
    @misha_charny25 9 днів тому +1

    I would so like the jury to return to the semifinals, it's worse and more boring without them.

  • @languist
    @languist 10 днів тому

    So basically nothing significant has changed.
    Sounded like ESC's UA-cam channel was about to make a complete 180, then nothing happened :P

  • @MicaelaQueirozCardoso
    @MicaelaQueirozCardoso 10 днів тому

    TELEVOTE for Portugal at 1st Semifinal please! Vote with the REST OF THE WORLD!!! 🇺🇸🇹🇷🇧🇷 All the non participate countries!!! Vote for Portugal 🇵🇹🇵🇹🇵🇹

    • @ConESC24
      @ConESC24 10 днів тому

      You'll be getting some votes from 🇬🇧 that's for sure Portugal

  • @XeaRae
    @XeaRae 9 днів тому

    Petra Mede ❤

  • @benthewheel30
    @benthewheel30 10 днів тому

    Next time I go to Germany I will look for frogs

  • @evaderzz
    @evaderzz 10 днів тому

    89th comment and 607th like!!
    POV: u know the rules but u watch it for no reason

  • @EliaszPimpicki
    @EliaszPimpicki 10 днів тому

    so nothing has changed, they learned nothing....