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@@mowvu hate them, already had hulk mad cos chelsea bought one of the already existing wonderkids at the club. now this new batch is full of some great players so i’m praying they’ll be loyal to mineiro
I swear zealand can read minds. All I've been thinking about in my mom's basement for 6 weeks is how to develop my Zimbabwean wonder kids. Thank you zealand
Used your training for the senior team & went from just clinching playoffs in EFL 1 to top of the league & secured playoffs with about 8 games left. Currently about 10 points clear so hopefully will win the league.
You can add youth players to senior squad units. After doing this if you allow the assistant to assign the mentoring groups it will include the players brought into senior squad training. You cannot go in and pick them manually but once the mentoring groups are created you can add/remove the senior players you want to mentor the youngsters
I'm playing fm21 and this doesn't work. At first they can be added to mentoring groups after being moved to the senior squad. But after I drop them back to the reserve, they disappear from the mentoring groups.
Here's a quick little tip. If you let someone else take control of youth individual training at the start of a save, generally they will set a position and role training. You can then take control over, and change the ones you don't like and only have to set it for new players.
Gonna say this:FM does a terrible job of recognizing that your B Team is actually playing competitive matches that matter. In either Spain or Germany, I can have a B Team in a playable league, and players and coaches both will scream to move players on loan from the playable team, where they're getting regular minutes in a system that matches your own, to a team of equivalent or lower quality, with worse facilities, in a system that doesn't match yours. No way, IRL, would I be loaning my players in competitive football out to competition in that circumstance. The game needs to recognize when a loan experience is actually better for the player. And it doesn't do that.
There's a few Portuguese clubs with B teams in playable leagues as well, and many more that can feasibly be promoted into them. But yeah, the AI does an awful job at managing them, often keeping them too empty for their own good - as a million players are loaned out instead.
It's great that when you spend a certain time at the club and develop a certain style of play, bring certain type of players to the club and have been training the players certain ways through the years, then at some point you practically don't need to set the "develop trait" setting in the individual training for younger players any more, they mostly pick it up through mentoring, which also allows them to progress more as you can then give them some other individual training (for specific attributes)
@@GIBBO4182 😂 Chelsea..... United hold the all time record of having atleast one youth developed player in their match day squad for the last 60 fucking years.....no one else has done that because no one has done it better and shown more loyalty to the youth than United in football history and developed them players better.
I started praising players for training more regularly and it has made a massive difference. I normally only did it when I wanted to boost morale before key matches but do it is as often as possible now. The sexiest of arrows
I love the obscure elements! That makes it more human, as the staff can fail in their judgement.. but actually if you’re experienced enough yourself, you know an approx level of its potential or whether the players ability is enough compared to your level.
I play this game for so many years several hours per day and even though you gave me cool tips. I just wanna say with this rusty english of mine that I love you, Zealand. Greetings from Brazil!
You inspired myself to create Football Manager content for Brazilian people! You're GOAT. Thanks for all your effort on bring so high quality Football Manager content!
My first training session after a matchday is always "Match Practice", followed by Recovery & Match Review. Players from the matchday get a 1 day No Pitch or Gym Work. Keeps everyone sharp & no lost day.
I used to love match practice, but now I’ve realised that unlike normal sessions it increases fatigue and always led to my players getting jaded. I am exaggerating as they just came close to being jaded because I always tried to fight off this jadedness which completely ruined my whole playtime- and training routine.
On a side note, I haven't updated the Z Skin since it was launched. I finally just did, and the gap is THICC. The skin is so awesome my man, keep up the good work.
One piece of big brain advice for looking for coaches is just to search HOYDs and offer them coaching roles because they’re always so well rounded and have high working with youngsters rating
You can take control of your Reserves/U18s training, block out the training schedule for the year & then give training back to the respective coaches. They will keep the training schedules in place, but make any changes for rescheduled matches. This will take a little bit of time at the start of your season (or whenever you decide to do it), but save you a lot of little tweaks over the rest of the season.
@@maickdick If you take control & use a template for the training each week, it should stay in place, even if you give control back. It has always worked for me, whenever I've taken the time to do it.
12:45 been getting this for my centre half that's great in the air. I keep being told to tske him off ball control... I just nope that sheet. His technique and first touch have raised now to a satisfactory level 😊
With the loans, I always check the media prediction for the club as well if the club is in an active league. Player ratings are much better in a top of the table team than a relegation team. Had some loanee goalkeepers get great ratings in relegation teams mind. Be interesting to know though if a player was on the cusp of playing in the championship, whether they'd gain more from the higher rep of a championship bottom 6 team or the higher ratings of a top 6 league 1 team.
Zealand You should do a video about loan managers and development list. These are useful and powerful tools but they need to be mastered and calibrated Right. I'm almost sure 95% of the players never use them.
@@powermonger9090 same. The unwanted list has got much better, but the development list is buggy. Much better results just having them on the loan list.
@@powermonger9090 don't use the default condition there are two things to set up for it to work well. First, let the % of the salary and all the money settings to 0 the loan manager will negotiate for you but will instantly reject all propositions that don't offer anything. Second indicate a Deadline if you don't, the loan manager will not start his research. I usually set the deadline to the end of the transfer window. The rest is up to you, I usually indicate that I want my player to be a regular starter in a club with good infrastructures and lower my expectations if nothing comes. If you want you loan manager to start again just reset the deadline
@@PHATHEAD691234 the thing is that the loan manager will often find really interesting clubs and negotiate financially interesting offers. Look at my previous answer for some tips.
In my experience, even though I set minimum Regular starter (for example), my loan manager often accepts Fringe player offers for my players. Any way to actually control this, other than manually going and rejecting those autoaccepted (by the LM) offers every time he screws up?
Brutally good advice as always BUT..your vide from Apr 29, 2020(Tips for Developing Young Players)..that intro and that Hawaiian shirt,your dance..it is still unbeatable😎
Haven’t played fm in years but in the past I would do max training on mentality stats and even on the others just enough so that training isn’t considered heavy. Mental training didn’t use much energy and had great benefits
I will admit ever since I've started using your training guides, my players are improving like crazy. However in that time, two of my players have been injured for 9 months in training. Now this may just be unlucky but when I did my own training I got up to 2070 odd with only one serious injury. The medical centre says "we've suffered 64% LESS injuries than what we would expect" which is great but do you have any advice on avoiding long term injuries?
Maybe try double checking training intensities that each player is set on, and maybe not use automatic if it’s too intense for the player. But u can also change what the automatic intensities are for different levels of condition (sorry if I didn’t explain that very well)
It does sound like your previous training regime was not enough for your players to properly develop and that does reduce injuries by virtue of having less chances for injuries to happen. For example, if they train 2 times a day with a 0.5% chance of an injury each and then 3 times with 0.5% chance, you will see more injuries even if the players are perfectly fine with training 3 times. That the injuries were bad is just bad luck most likely.
@@alexleathem1188 Well I used to train max on normal intensity but I noticed once I changed to double we started winning games. I've stuck with double since but I do make sure if they aren't at full bar they train normal or half. I'm thinking it's a lack of fitness coaches, we only have two, so hopefully the board give us more coaches soon.
Any chance you could post screenshots of those youth training schedules for those of us playing older versions of fm? I'm on fm20 and the schedule files aren't compatible
18:48 - I'm pretty sure stacking training types like this increases injuries (from my experience). I have a habit of flicking over to the training screen each time a player is injured in training, and in my experience (though I've not tested the theory) they came on days when that player's unit has a higher intensity. As a result, I balanced out my schedules to try not to push any particular unit too hard on any particular day. It'd be a hard thing to test, but I'd also be curious if it effected the ability of your coaches. I.e. Basically giving your attacking coaches the day off and then being swamped the next. On the flip-side: What's the benefit of stacking like this? I've heard phrases like "focus" and "theming", but it there a theory that FM actually has theming buffs?
I’ve found a way that’s worked for me on my current save. 8 seasons in, send them on loan to Hamburg, they have a bad season, play them as a bit part player and then all of a sudden they find form and become one of the best in the league over the next 2 years. Worked wonders for one of my wonder kids and getting there with 2 others
Wife walks in on me in the gym watching the start of this video. She’s giving me funny looks and asking lots of questions about exactly what I’m watching now. 😂
I've been using the Ajax TIPS model for youth training on a load of saves. Always had great results. But always wanted to know what to do with my B Team players who were too old for youth. Will deffo give these a go 👍
Technique, Insight, Personality and Speed. Each week focusing on one of the attributes to round out the player. I found a cut and paste download on steam. I really like it. There’s also weeks for attacking and defensive work
My bad. It’s on the workshop for FM21. By Passion4FM. Search Technique - Youth Training Schedule (Ajax TIPS MODEL) by Passion4FM. Let me know if any issues
You can bring them up to just training so you can have them play u18s but also be in mentoring groups and have higher quality training and experience without having them in a full first team squad
I would love to see some actual results in these videos so that I get the chance to compare it with the success of my own schedules and then make an informed decision which one would be the better choice. Sure, the results you share might not 100% apply to my save, but at least one gets a rough idea of the numbers we're talking about.
The issue is because of the unique nature of every player and situation there isn’t really a universal metric for who exactly good each training is, this was the best we were able to make it our tests but if you’ve gone through the trouble of testing and building one for yourself then you’re already ahead of 99% of people
@@ZealandonYT yeah, I'm aware of this issue and tried to acknowledge it in my first comment. The most "universal" metric would probably be a predefined database that is saved on the first day (so that the CA and PA are set // possibly add a transfer ban to all loaded teams/leagues, too) with an equally predefined tactic that is used across all teams of the respective club (which should thus lead to similar results in most simulations). Obviously the DB could be standardised even more but that would be hard to do for a single person. Then once the DB and tactic are in place, one puts the respective training schedules in for the upcoming season and simulate the season. Sure there will be some variances but it should give you a rough idea of how effective the respective schedule is/how effective it can be. If nothing else, adding some player progress screenshots could add some more visually appealing content (who doesn't love some "player development p*rn" with green arrows everywhere? ^^ ).
I almost never loan out players because of multiple reasons and the most important one is that the time they spent away from the club dosn't count for the time the player needs to get the local player status for the european club competitions. In general my training facilities and backroom staff is also better than of most clubs interested in loaning the players. It's better to keep them at the club to receive training with great coaches and being mentored by the right players. I also fill up my reserves team with experienced players i can get on a free transfer or for cheap and for low wages to ensure that i have strong reserves squad that wins a lot. And you also don't lose much money if these experienced players get mad and want to leave because they never play for the first team. Just let them go and get a new one. I just loan out players when i'm managing a club in the UK and the player can't get a work permit. Then i will buy them anyway and loan them to a small club in one of the top 5 european leagues where the player is starting almost every game. Half a season as a starter at Portimonense in Portugal and you can cancel the loan because the player will get his work permit.
Even if you know your player is a wonderkid, if that player's potential is low in the initial setup of the game, or if the potential is high, and the determination value is very low, this whole video doesn't go beyond a sound that goes into space.
position is very important. sometimes, 4 stars potancial striker would become 5 stars potancial when being right back. stamina training very important to excep strikers and goalkeepers. It both keeps them in the game and reduces her injuries.
Zealand, I usually keep my good youngsters on first team and just make them always available for u19 team, so that they train with world class coaches instead of whatever garbage rated coaches I can attract to work as u19 coach, do you think it is still better to keep them in u19 even if there is a huge gap between coach quality between senior and u19 teams? Yes they miss a day training but the other 5-6 days of much higher quality can't make up for that?
Go to "Training" and "Units" at the top - you can add your youngsters to the senior-groups, allowing them to train with the senior players, while keeping them in your U19-team. Basically the same thing, but you won't have to "set them as available" for the U-team.
@@fckrocks Yes but then his question remains. The youngsters have better coaches but miss out on several full training days and have matches directly before and after heavy training loads
When I get an 18 yr old in, I tend to keep them around just so they can be a homegrown player but it does damage their progress probably. I can't really find a good balance on this, I know you only need 4 homegrown for CL but if you only keep 4 around and send the rest away then you're shackled to those 4 players and forced to give them whatever they demand as you have no alternative, so that's not a good look. Curse you Dortmund for not having a usable u23 team that actually plays in a league! *shakes fist*
Yeah I tend to do that too if I know that the player will be in the club long term and I already have some troubles with the registration. But don’t do it if u already got enough players for such registration or have other players that are well on their way to the homegrown status
You can often get away with a decent at best backup goalie, at least one homegrown player will be someone that will be good enough for squad rotation, and if you are out one player, you can almost always get away with an empty spot. Especially if you have a collection of u-21 that don't have to be registered. Remember that squad players are important and valuable. A 2* 18 year old with 3* potential and a good personality is more than good enough to keep on the team as a backup/rotation player long term. He's never going to carry your team, but you need the depth and registration. Even a team of galacticos need reliable water carriers to give them some rotation. And you're better off with them being homegrowns that contribute to a positive environment in the squad.
Which is more important between league reputation and playing time though? Should I loan a player to league 1 where the reputation and quality are slightly higher, or should I loan them to league 2 where they'll play more regularly and probably have a slightly higher average match rating?
You touched upon young players developing Physicals first, then Technicals, then Mentals. I currently have all of my U18's with a Physical type of additional focus. Does that make sense to you?
I have accidentally been cracked at youth development always on fm I would send my young players to leagues they would dominate in so they would play all the time. Never considered match rating had any effect so I had been using loans right especially a lot of the time that club was an affiliate so he'd be there for a few years settled.
thank you for this video zealand the only problem I have with loaning out my youth players is that they arent gonna get the home grown status anymore in terms of registration
very interesting topic! thanks. I have a question, when I arrange friendlies for my B-team (in order to develop my 18+ year olds), is it recommended to choose opponents of higher reputation - or does that not count here and I should rather go for easy cannonfodder for better match ratings?
I always get frustrated when a substitution goes through at 76 minutes, and the player doesn’t get a match rating even if there’s like 8 minute of added time 😡
Have you tried how much the league rep and playing time matter? Lets say I get two offers for the player I want to loan out. The first: a rotation player in Ligue 1, middle of the park training facilities. The second: starting player in Ligue 2, middle of the park training facilities. Where will he develope the most? I've always picked the option where he is a first team player. Should I reconsider my life choices?
My approach atm is to keep them in the u18s, training with the first team and in mentor groups. Then when they get to just the right level I start to loan them out. I don't feel like I'm getting the results I could be from doing the bare minimum so let's see if this video gives me any new tricks
Do you have a trick or 'hack' for getting your two reserve team managers pick the players you want developed? I was hoping for an instruction in FM23 where, like in real life, certain players are given all the match time in the reserves.
Hello. Watched all your training videos and really helped with my first and am now thinking of taking control of my Reserve/U19 teams as well. Do you use the preseason training with them or go straight to their regular one?
Hi Zealand. would you buy yourself an old player who is ok with no playing time and has a good mentor personality and put him in your youth team, or does he have to have playing time to be highly influential? Having some 30-40 year old model citizen mentoring your youth team prospects could solve all the problems in one go when this works
teams do that in real life and I've often considered on FM, was gonna do it with Zlatan but he wanted big wages and two years, didn't feel worth the money even though he would have had a great impact on Sesko's development.
So yeah about mentoring, I did what you suggested I bought a high reputation model citizen, his effect in mentoring was light, but it turned out he was kind of a decent player with 2 stars and 5-star potential at 19 so I wasn't that bothered by how his mentoring was useless. I figured with "model citizen" as a personality he would develop really well, he's slacking off in training (getting 6.0 despite having 0 unhappy reasons) and he's losing stats despite being an occasional starter for my first team who are dominating the league.
I’m playing as Ajax and the reserve team is playing in the first division of Holland. If they are too good for that league, I loan players out in the same division as Ajax or to foreign clubs in the highest division like Belgium or Germany.
I got bored and took over my u23s and noticed a significant change in how my players were developing and have done it ever since and logic in this or is it just a placebo??
Have never really been too sure about having individual role training, if you don't have any sessions in your weekly schedule that focus on individual roles how does it really help attribute development????
Hey guys, i have a question, is it worth playing a defense with ball player when only using 1 cb? Or a central defender? Its a minor question but i am losing my mind at all of my cb injuries Oh, and about the video, it helped my a little bit, because i am obsessed with training young talents, even though i am sitting with one of my best schalke teams with all the money i could have, but i still like to produce big talents for my team without using much money on big players, only when i need some depth for one position if the youngsters i find are not good enough for what i need them to do
What exactly is the best way to go about filling out your u23/u18 teams? Obviously you can’t have 5 star potential on everyone down there, so is signing a bunch of free agents without top end potential, purely to aid the development of the actual first team prospects the way to go?
I have question that may seem stupid.There are 3 different trainings focusing on def,att and mid.How should I apply them? There are units but there are no specific training schedules for them right? Please help me out
How are the defense/ midfield/ attacker development plans supposed to be used? Am I just supposed to make the whole team train with the personalized schedules? Or can I pick different schedules for example just for the attackers?
But what if you have better senior training facilities & your youth teams play on the same day? (In regards to youth players training with the first team?).
Will the training schedule link for non steam download be compatible with fm20 for example? If not what exactly is the schedule for the u23/reserves? Is the same as the first team for example?
What is the effect of playing in friendly matches on development? Some youth/reserve leagues do not play very many games so would it be beneficial to use friendlies to get more match experience for development purposes?
So because of the need to win it's better to loan a player to a winning team in a second league like the championship instead of a team fighting to not relegate in the premier?
Answer me this, should I play a Youth intake player in my team if he is good enough for the starting 11 or should I let him do his thing on the Under18's ? Because Im playing with FC Porto and got a player with a 2,5 stars and I want to play him cause he has a 5 star potential and is a CAM with huge passing, vision and dribbling. Should I wait or "release" this beast on the field?
I had a kid like this and started playing him at 16 in Serie A and he developed extremely quickly. I think it’s beneficial as long as they get decent ratings, and if your team wins a lot that should boost the ratings.
When a young player is 2 or 2,5 stars CA, I usually try to sub him in occasionally and check his performances. If he plays well I wait for an opportunity to put him in the starting 11. If he plays relatively well (we aren't really expecting Messi output from them, anything above 6.9 is well for me) on those games as well, chances are he is improving and can be a regular starter in the team
I always try to loan my young players when they reach 18 but they never get any playing time. I'm at Bundesliga and I have an affiliate club at Bundesliga 2. They never play my players. I've tried to loan them out to the other clubs in 3rd league as well, I deal with them to play my player as a star player but they just don't. When I talk to them about that they always say he isn't good enough and I just call them back and half a season is wasted because they promised a squad role they can't keep. I do play them in U-19 league but I don't know if it is too easy for them.
Can you look into something for me and maybe make a video on it if you can do it. Retired numbers I am managing Birmingham City the number 22 is retired but I recently bought back Jude Bellingham after promotion to the Premier League. But I can’t assign him his number 22 shirt is there a way or can you find a way of doing this. ?
I chose to start as the Hungry Lions in South Africa. I have been leaning towards youth due to the finances and three seasons in i'm now in the top tier. The problem i am having is that my youth players are in part being poached, even though i cant seem to offer them a contract myself. What set of circumstances am i missing that allows teams to poach my players? Can i exploit this in my favour? P.S. i am using the Xbox one platform.
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there’s never a time i’ve needed this more you beautiful man. just got an amazing intake with atletico minero so thank you
my Galo
Just got the excellent intake pop up last night for the first time in my 12 year St. Pauli save so I second this! You’re the fuckin man Z!
@@zcoup7257 huge W. just won my first serie a and copa libatadores in my first half season
i can hear the premier league coming already. those release fees are killers
@@mowvu hate them, already had hulk mad cos chelsea bought one of the already existing wonderkids at the club. now this new batch is full of some great players so i’m praying they’ll be loyal to mineiro
I swear zealand can read minds. All I've been thinking about in my mom's basement for 6 weeks is how to develop my Zimbabwean wonder kids. Thank you zealand
Used your training for the senior team & went from just clinching playoffs in EFL 1 to top of the league & secured playoffs with about 8 games left. Currently about 10 points clear so hopefully will win the league.
You can add youth players to senior squad units. After doing this if you allow the assistant to assign the mentoring groups it will include the players brought into senior squad training. You cannot go in and pick them manually but once the mentoring groups are created you can add/remove the senior players you want to mentor the youngsters
The game has been out for months and I'm still learning new things. Thanks!
I'm playing fm21 and this doesn't work. At first they can be added to mentoring groups after being moved to the senior squad. But after I drop them back to the reserve, they disappear from the mentoring groups.
Lmao I felt so proud when I just recently found this out on my own 😂😂😂
Yesterday, just thought about this consept and checked for your previous videos but didn't find anything. Today you released this video. Praise Be!
I had a young centre back whose concentration attribute went up by +8 during his development. STONKS.
Concentration seems to be the fastest developing attribute(at least in my experience)
Here's a quick little tip. If you let someone else take control of youth individual training at the start of a save, generally they will set a position and role training. You can then take control over, and change the ones you don't like and only have to set it for new players.
you can just find expiring ones 😂 by the january
The "staff offer to clubs" section was completely new to me. Insane. You're the man!
Gonna say this:FM does a terrible job of recognizing that your B Team is actually playing competitive matches that matter. In either Spain or Germany, I can have a B Team in a playable league, and players and coaches both will scream to move players on loan from the playable team, where they're getting regular minutes in a system that matches your own, to a team of equivalent or lower quality, with worse facilities, in a system that doesn't match yours.
No way, IRL, would I be loaning my players in competitive football out to competition in that circumstance. The game needs to recognize when a loan experience is actually better for the player. And it doesn't do that.
There's a few Portuguese clubs with B teams in playable leagues as well, and many more that can feasibly be promoted into them. But yeah, the AI does an awful job at managing them, often keeping them too empty for their own good - as a million players are loaned out instead.
@@joaopires1761 tuga power
It's great that when you spend a certain time at the club and develop a certain style of play, bring certain type of players to the club and have been training the players certain ways through the years, then at some point you practically don't need to set the "develop trait" setting in the individual training for younger players any more, they mostly pick it up through mentoring, which also allows them to progress more as you can then give them some other individual training (for specific attributes)
Maybe you could show this to Man Utd…
You mean FA Youth Cup 22 champions, Manchester United?
@@NoDirtyVids yeah…maybe they’ll turn out better than Lingard and McTominay
@@GIBBO4182 Garnacho will be the real deal..United develop more youth players than any other club in England.
@@StinkyMinge Chelsea have entered the chat…
@@GIBBO4182 😂 Chelsea..... United hold the all time record of having atleast one youth developed player in their match day squad for the last 60 fucking years.....no one else has done that because no one has done it better and shown more loyalty to the youth than United in football history and developed them players better.
I started praising players for training more regularly and it has made a massive difference. I normally only did it when I wanted to boost morale before key matches but do it is as often as possible now. The sexiest of arrows
I love the obscure elements! That makes it more human, as the staff can fail in their judgement.. but actually if you’re experienced enough yourself, you know an approx level of its potential or whether the players ability is enough compared to your level.
I play this game for so many years several hours per day and even though you gave me cool tips. I just wanna say with this rusty english of mine that I love you, Zealand. Greetings from Brazil!
You inspired myself to create Football Manager content for Brazilian people! You're GOAT. Thanks for all your effort on bring so high quality Football Manager content!
DO NADA eu acho um comentário do Fefux em um vídeo aleatório do Zealand.
My first training session after a matchday is always "Match Practice", followed by Recovery & Match Review. Players from the matchday get a 1 day No Pitch or Gym Work. Keeps everyone sharp & no lost day.
I used to love match practice, but now I’ve realised that unlike normal sessions it increases fatigue and always led to my players getting jaded.
I am exaggerating as they just came close to being jaded because I always tried to fight off this jadedness which completely ruined my whole playtime- and training routine.
On a side note, I haven't updated the Z Skin since it was launched. I finally just did, and the gap is THICC. The skin is so awesome my man, keep up the good work.
One piece of big brain advice for looking for coaches is just to search HOYDs and offer them coaching roles because they’re always so well rounded and have high working with youngsters rating
then his workload will increase and reduce the effectiveness of the training.
You are so good at your job dude. The way you present this information is the best. Thanks Z!
You can take control of your Reserves/U18s training, block out the training schedule for the year & then give training back to the respective coaches. They will keep the training schedules in place, but make any changes for rescheduled matches.
This will take a little bit of time at the start of your season (or whenever you decide to do it), but save you a lot of little tweaks over the rest of the season.
Also, players will never come to you complaining about training. I do this for all 3 of my teams at the beginning of every season
How do you block the training? Every time I give the training responsibilities to the under-19 coach, they change all sets.
@@maickdick If you take control & use a template for the training each week, it should stay in place, even if you give control back. It has always worked for me, whenever I've taken the time to do it.
12:45 been getting this for my centre half that's great in the air. I keep being told to tske him off ball control... I just nope that sheet. His technique and first touch have raised now to a satisfactory level 😊
With the loans, I always check the media prediction for the club as well if the club is in an active league. Player ratings are much better in a top of the table team than a relegation team. Had some loanee goalkeepers get great ratings in relegation teams mind. Be interesting to know though if a player was on the cusp of playing in the championship, whether they'd gain more from the higher rep of a championship bottom 6 team or the higher ratings of a top 6 league 1 team.
Zealand You should do a video about loan managers and development list. These are useful and powerful tools but they need to be mastered and calibrated Right. I'm almost sure 95% of the players never use them.
I try to use these but they never seem to work, especially when I set the conditions in the staff responsibilities of the default loan conditions.
@@powermonger9090 same. The unwanted list has got much better, but the development list is buggy. Much better results just having them on the loan list.
@@powermonger9090 don't use the default condition there are two things to set up for it to work well. First, let the % of the salary and all the money settings to 0 the loan manager will negotiate for you but will instantly reject all propositions that don't offer anything.
Second indicate a Deadline if you don't, the loan manager will not start his research. I usually set the deadline to the end of the transfer window.
The rest is up to you, I usually indicate that I want my player to be a regular starter in a club with good infrastructures and lower my expectations if nothing comes. If you want you loan manager to start again just reset the deadline
@@PHATHEAD691234 the thing is that the loan manager will often find really interesting clubs and negotiate financially interesting offers. Look at my previous answer for some tips.
In my experience, even though I set minimum Regular starter (for example), my loan manager often accepts Fringe player offers for my players. Any way to actually control this, other than manually going and rejecting those autoaccepted (by the LM) offers every time he screws up?
Brutally good advice as always BUT..your vide from Apr 29, 2020(Tips for Developing Young Players)..that intro and that Hawaiian shirt,your dance..it is still unbeatable😎
My first time playing FM thanks for telling me all this be I had no idea this stuff was even a thing
Haven’t played fm in years but in the past I would do max training on mentality stats and even on the others just enough so that training isn’t considered heavy. Mental training didn’t use much energy and had great benefits
You are just the most helpful man on UA-cam
Setting the very great and clear video aside. Where did you get that shirt? It's from the team in my hometown!
Should've out the Vince Mcmahon falling back meme at the intro :D
Thank you Esteban for all the helpful videos 👍
I will admit ever since I've started using your training guides, my players are improving like crazy. However in that time, two of my players have been injured for 9 months in training. Now this may just be unlucky but when I did my own training I got up to 2070 odd with only one serious injury.
The medical centre says "we've suffered 64% LESS injuries than what we would expect" which is great but do you have any advice on avoiding long term injuries?
I'm not sure it's related, I still let the AI do training and I have had several long term injuries.
I’ve had an increase in ‘small’ injuries but not had anything long term
Maybe try double checking training intensities that each player is set on, and maybe not use automatic if it’s too intense for the player. But u can also change what the automatic intensities are for different levels of condition (sorry if I didn’t explain that very well)
It does sound like your previous training regime was not enough for your players to properly develop and that does reduce injuries by virtue of having less chances for injuries to happen. For example, if they train 2 times a day with a 0.5% chance of an injury each and then 3 times with 0.5% chance, you will see more injuries even if the players are perfectly fine with training 3 times.
That the injuries were bad is just bad luck most likely.
@@alexleathem1188 Well I used to train max on normal intensity but I noticed once I changed to double we started winning games. I've stuck with double since but I do make sure if they aren't at full bar they train normal or half. I'm thinking it's a lack of fitness coaches, we only have two, so hopefully the board give us more coaches soon.
This is a great video. Well done! I got a lot from this like not dong trait training for players under 19 etc.
Great video, you explained the reasoning behind your advice very clearly and demonstrated how to do everything.
Any chance you could post screenshots of those youth training schedules for those of us playing older versions of fm?
I'm on fm20 and the schedule files aren't compatible
18:48 - I'm pretty sure stacking training types like this increases injuries (from my experience).
I have a habit of flicking over to the training screen each time a player is injured in training, and in my experience (though I've not tested the theory) they came on days when that player's unit has a higher intensity. As a result, I balanced out my schedules to try not to push any particular unit too hard on any particular day.
It'd be a hard thing to test, but I'd also be curious if it effected the ability of your coaches. I.e. Basically giving your attacking coaches the day off and then being swamped the next.
On the flip-side: What's the benefit of stacking like this? I've heard phrases like "focus" and "theming", but it there a theory that FM actually has theming buffs?
I’ve found a way that’s worked for me on my current save. 8 seasons in, send them on loan to Hamburg, they have a bad season, play them as a bit part player and then all of a sudden they find form and become one of the best in the league over the next 2 years. Worked wonders for one of my wonder kids and getting there with 2 others
Just because you're wearing a shirt from a Belgian team (KV Mechelen) i'm subscribing !
Wife walks in on me in the gym watching the start of this video. She’s giving me funny looks and asking lots of questions about exactly what I’m watching now. 😂
I've been using the Ajax TIPS model for youth training on a load of saves. Always had great results. But always wanted to know what to do with my B Team players who were too old for youth. Will deffo give these a go 👍
What’s the Ajax TIPS model?
Technique, Insight, Personality and Speed. Each week focusing on one of the attributes to round out the player. I found a cut and paste download on steam. I really like it. There’s also weeks for attacking and defensive work
@@garrettsheridan1779 ok thanks for the info. I’ll look into it more, I like the sound of it
@@garrettsheridan1779 Thanks for the info, can't seem to find them on steam workshop, unless it's the ones by FM Studio?
My bad. It’s on the workshop for FM21. By Passion4FM. Search Technique - Youth Training Schedule (Ajax TIPS MODEL) by Passion4FM. Let me know if any issues
Never knew about specifying the facilities in the offer to club settings neat
You can bring them up to just training so you can have them play u18s but also be in mentoring groups and have higher quality training and experience without having them in a full first team squad
Never been so early on one of your videos before
I would love to see some actual results in these videos so that I get the chance to compare it with the success of my own schedules and then make an informed decision which one would be the better choice. Sure, the results you share might not 100% apply to my save, but at least one gets a rough idea of the numbers we're talking about.
The issue is because of the unique nature of every player and situation there isn’t really a universal metric for who exactly good each training is, this was the best we were able to make it our tests but if you’ve gone through the trouble of testing and building one for yourself then you’re already ahead of 99% of people
@@ZealandonYT yeah, I'm aware of this issue and tried to acknowledge it in my first comment. The most "universal" metric would probably be a predefined database that is saved on the first day (so that the CA and PA are set // possibly add a transfer ban to all loaded teams/leagues, too) with an equally predefined tactic that is used across all teams of the respective club (which should thus lead to similar results in most simulations). Obviously the DB could be standardised even more but that would be hard to do for a single person. Then once the DB and tactic are in place, one puts the respective training schedules in for the upcoming season and simulate the season. Sure there will be some variances but it should give you a rough idea of how effective the respective schedule is/how effective it can be. If nothing else, adding some player progress screenshots could add some more visually appealing content (who doesn't love some "player development p*rn" with green arrows everywhere? ^^ ).
ffs mate, you make spreadsheet simulator entertaining videos, fucking love it
I almost never loan out players because of multiple reasons and the most important one is that the time they spent away from the club dosn't count for the time the player needs to get the local player status for the european club competitions.
In general my training facilities and backroom staff is also better than of most clubs interested in loaning the players. It's better to keep them at the club to receive training with great coaches and being mentored by the right players. I also fill up my reserves team with experienced players i can get on a free transfer or for cheap and for low wages to ensure that i have strong reserves squad that wins a lot. And you also don't lose much money if these experienced players get mad and want to leave because they never play for the first team. Just let them go and get a new one.
I just loan out players when i'm managing a club in the UK and the player can't get a work permit. Then i will buy them anyway and loan them to a small club in one of the top 5 european leagues where the player is starting almost every game. Half a season as a starter at Portimonense in Portugal and you can cancel the loan because the player will get his work permit.
Gracias! Ésta era la serie que necesitaba.
CRACK!
Everytime ive sent wonderkids on loan they rather don't do well or just don't improve at all even from 18-20, that's with keeping these things in mind
Even if you know your player is a wonderkid, if that player's potential is low in the initial setup of the game, or if the potential is high, and the determination value is very low, this whole video doesn't go beyond a sound that goes into space.
position is very important. sometimes, 4 stars potancial striker would become 5 stars potancial when being right back.
stamina training very important to excep strikers and goalkeepers. It both keeps them in the game and reduces her injuries.
Zealand, I usually keep my good youngsters on first team and just make them always available for u19 team, so that they train with world class coaches instead of whatever garbage rated coaches I can attract to work as u19 coach, do you think it is still better to keep them in u19 even if there is a huge gap between coach quality between senior and u19 teams? Yes they miss a day training but the other 5-6 days of much higher quality can't make up for that?
Go to "Training" and "Units" at the top - you can add your youngsters to the senior-groups, allowing them to train with the senior players, while keeping them in your U19-team. Basically the same thing, but you won't have to "set them as available" for the U-team.
@@fckrocks
Yes but then his question remains. The youngsters have better coaches but miss out on several full training days and have matches directly before and after heavy training loads
The world-class coaches you speak of wouldn't have high "working with youngsters" that is needed at u18 level.
When I get an 18 yr old in, I tend to keep them around just so they can be a homegrown player but it does damage their progress probably. I can't really find a good balance on this, I know you only need 4 homegrown for CL but if you only keep 4 around and send the rest away then you're shackled to those 4 players and forced to give them whatever they demand as you have no alternative, so that's not a good look. Curse you Dortmund for not having a usable u23 team that actually plays in a league! *shakes fist*
Yeah I tend to do that too if I know that the player will be in the club long term and I already have some troubles with the registration. But don’t do it if u already got enough players for such registration or have other players that are well on their way to the homegrown status
It’s worse when Dortmund U-18s are one of the best U-18 teams in the world and they don’t develop for 2/3 years between 18-21.
You can often get away with a decent at best backup goalie, at least one homegrown player will be someone that will be good enough for squad rotation, and if you are out one player, you can almost always get away with an empty spot. Especially if you have a collection of u-21 that don't have to be registered.
Remember that squad players are important and valuable. A 2* 18 year old with 3* potential and a good personality is more than good enough to keep on the team as a backup/rotation player long term. He's never going to carry your team, but you need the depth and registration. Even a team of galacticos need reliable water carriers to give them some rotation. And you're better off with them being homegrowns that contribute to a positive environment in the squad.
I freaking needed this
Thank you Z! Just to clarify, I am not on steam because I play the game on the Xbox Game Pass for PC
Which is more important between league reputation and playing time though?
Should I loan a player to league 1 where the reputation and quality are slightly higher, or should I loan them to league 2 where they'll play more regularly and probably have a slightly higher average match rating?
You touched upon young players developing Physicals first, then Technicals, then Mentals. I currently have all of my U18's with a Physical type of additional focus. Does that make sense to you?
Damn, I used to watch these vids all the time, now I just buy the editor
This is a very helpful guide on this, thanks 👍
Link for the article at 18:25?
hi zealand are you planning on releasing versions of these for fm24???
I have accidentally been cracked at youth development always on fm I would send my young players to leagues they would dominate in so they would play all the time. Never considered match rating had any effect so I had been using loans right especially a lot of the time that club was an affiliate so he'd be there for a few years settled.
Zealand got a sponsor!! yesss
thank you for this video zealand the only problem I have with loaning out my youth players is that they arent gonna get the home grown status anymore in terms of registration
buy players 18 and younger.
Does friendly matches in the reserve tem count for the development?
very interesting topic! thanks.
I have a question, when I arrange friendlies for my B-team (in order to develop my 18+ year olds), is it recommended to choose opponents of higher reputation - or does that not count here and I should rather go for easy cannonfodder for better match ratings?
Pick a fair opponent. Don’t let them get wrecked by a higher reputation club just to kill their confidence.
I always get frustrated when a substitution goes through at 76 minutes, and the player doesn’t get a match rating even if there’s like 8 minute of added time 😡
Have you tried how much the league rep and playing time matter? Lets say I get two offers for the player I want to loan out.
The first: a rotation player in Ligue 1, middle of the park training facilities.
The second: starting player in Ligue 2, middle of the park training facilities.
Where will he develope the most? I've always picked the option where he is a first team player. Should I reconsider my life choices?
always pick which one offers more playing time.
Thank you very much. Awesome work as always. Will certainly help me with my Benfica farm :)
This has always been my issue in the future of the teams, it's been vibes that I've used to develop players
vibes and whoever has the best name
My approach atm is to keep them in the u18s, training with the first team and in mentor groups. Then when they get to just the right level I start to loan them out. I don't feel like I'm getting the results I could be from doing the bare minimum so let's see if this video gives me any new tricks
Do you have a trick or 'hack' for getting your two reserve team managers pick the players you want developed? I was hoping for an instruction in FM23 where, like in real life, certain players are given all the match time in the reserves.
Hello. Watched all your training videos and really helped with my first and am now thinking of taking control of my Reserve/U19 teams as well. Do you use the preseason training with them or go straight to their regular one?
Hi Zealand. would you buy yourself an old player who is ok with no playing time and has a good mentor personality and put him in your youth team, or does he have to have playing time to be highly influential? Having some 30-40 year old model citizen mentoring your youth team prospects could solve all the problems in one go when this works
teams do that in real life and I've often considered on FM, was gonna do it with Zlatan but he wanted big wages and two years, didn't feel worth the money even though he would have had a great impact on Sesko's development.
are there any insights to when the scale between reputation of the league and good matchratings/results tips?
When should i use the defending, midfielder and attacking players training?
So yeah about mentoring, I did what you suggested I bought a high reputation model citizen, his effect in mentoring was light, but it turned out he was kind of a decent player with 2 stars and 5-star potential at 19 so I wasn't that bothered by how his mentoring was useless. I figured with "model citizen" as a personality he would develop really well, he's slacking off in training (getting 6.0 despite having 0 unhappy reasons) and he's losing stats despite being an occasional starter for my first team who are dominating the league.
You are the best mate 💙
I’m playing as Ajax and the reserve team is playing in the first division of Holland. If they are too good for that league, I loan players out in the same division as Ajax or to foreign clubs in the highest division like Belgium or Germany.
I got bored and took over my u23s and noticed a significant change in how my players were developing and have done it ever since and logic in this or is it just a placebo??
So you manage their games?
Have never really been too sure about having individual role training, if you don't have any sessions in your weekly schedule that focus on individual roles how does it really help attribute development????
Hey guys, i have a question, is it worth playing a defense with ball player when only using 1 cb? Or a central defender?
Its a minor question but i am losing my mind at all of my cb injuries
Oh, and about the video, it helped my a little bit, because i am obsessed with training young talents, even though i am sitting with one of my best schalke teams with all the money i could have, but i still like to produce big talents for my team without using much money on big players, only when i need some depth for one position if the youngsters i find are not good enough for what i need them to do
What exactly is the best way to go about filling out your u23/u18 teams? Obviously you can’t have 5 star potential on everyone down there, so is signing a bunch of free agents without top end potential, purely to aid the development of the actual first team prospects the way to go?
where can you import youth team schedule into? I can import for first team but not for the rest
phew thank goodness the u23 games count. I can actually keep some kids around to plug the injury holes in my first team
I have question that may seem stupid.There are 3 different trainings focusing on def,att and mid.How should I apply them? There are units but there are no specific training schedules for them right? Please help me out
How are the defense/ midfield/ attacker development plans supposed to be used? Am I just supposed to make the whole team train with the personalized schedules? Or can I pick different schedules for example just for the attackers?
I don't use the plans but pretty sure it's for the team training schedule so I suppose you must pick one to focus on.
Do you actually manage the second team or u-teams as well in terms of starting 11 or do you let the coaches there do that?
I'm pretty sure you can opt to do that but I trust my second team and u-team manager. Look under staff -> responsibility to change this.
But what if you have better senior training facilities & your youth teams play on the same day? (In regards to youth players training with the first team?).
Will the training schedule link for non steam download be compatible with fm20 for example? If not what exactly is the schedule for the u23/reserves? Is the same as the first team for example?
Thoose youth training do i need to switch between them weekly? so attacking then midfield and etc.
What is the effect of playing in friendly matches on development? Some youth/reserve leagues do not play very many games so would it be beneficial to use friendlies to get more match experience for development purposes?
100 youth tournaments
So because of the need to win it's better to loan a player to a winning team in a second league like the championship instead of a team fighting to not relegate in the premier?
Answer me this, should I play a Youth intake player in my team if he is good enough for the starting 11 or should I let him do his thing on the Under18's ? Because Im playing with FC Porto and got a player with a 2,5 stars and I want to play him cause he has a 5 star potential and is a CAM with huge passing, vision and dribbling. Should I wait or "release" this beast on the field?
I had a kid like this and started playing him at 16 in Serie A and he developed extremely quickly. I think it’s beneficial as long as they get decent ratings, and if your team wins a lot that should boost the ratings.
@@jeffreyminucci1364 Thanks brother. 👌
When a young player is 2 or 2,5 stars CA, I usually try to sub him in occasionally and check his performances. If he plays well I wait for an opportunity to put him in the starting 11. If he plays relatively well (we aren't really expecting Messi output from them, anything above 6.9 is well for me) on those games as well, chances are he is improving and can be a regular starter in the team
Is it even better to start under 18 yo in first team matches if they’re already decent enough?
This video was really helpful for me thanks 💪👌🏻
It took me 7 years for subscribe a youtuber that his CA suitable for my first-team
I always try to loan my young players when they reach 18 but they never get any playing time. I'm at Bundesliga and I have an affiliate club at Bundesliga 2. They never play my players. I've tried to loan them out to the other clubs in 3rd league as well, I deal with them to play my player as a star player but they just don't. When I talk to them about that they always say he isn't good enough and I just call them back and half a season is wasted because they promised a squad role they can't keep. I do play them in U-19 league but I don't know if it is too easy for them.
20 minutes that change how i play this game for 9 years...
Can you look into something for me and maybe make a video on it if you can do it. Retired numbers I am managing Birmingham City the number 22 is retired but I recently bought back Jude Bellingham after promotion to the Premier League. But I can’t assign him his number 22 shirt is there a way or can you find a way of doing this. ?
I chose to start as the Hungry Lions in South Africa. I have been leaning towards youth due to the finances and three seasons in i'm now in the top tier. The problem i am having is that my youth players are in part being poached, even though i cant seem to offer them a contract myself. What set of circumstances am i missing that allows teams to poach my players? Can i exploit this in my favour? P.S. i am using the Xbox one platform.