[4K] Final Fantasy 15: PC Graphics Settings/Upgrades vs Xbox One X!
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Graphics comparisons of all the key settings in the Windows Edition of the game, stacked up against the top-tier Xbox One X console version. Just how much of a boost do PC users get? In part one of our coverage, John and Alex get a handle on the Luminous Studios engine fully unleashed.
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playing ff16 made me wanna go back and revisit this game but on pc windows edition versus the base ps4 version when it released. funny to hear john say "our new pc expert alex"
This Alex kid seems chill. Maybe he has a future in DF.
A PC gaming expert is very much appreciated!
Yup! He's still getting setup but I expect some great things. I prefer to focus on Retro content and more console stuff so having a hardcore PC guy on board is a great fit! We want to try and expand what we've covered in the past with PC games.
And your positive commentary is very much appreciated in kind! Danke sehr :D
I agree. DF has been lacking in the PC side of things since the launch of the X. This addition to the team is very needed and welcome. And besides, John will have more time to make DFRetro videos, which is great.
KrSsumday ya I noticed that, even though there is a PC version of the game that they are looking at they don't really seem to include it and I was wondering is that because it's expensive to just keep on buying PC versions of games and try them out when you know that they will look better than the console versions or in some cases are they not included because DF knows that they will perform worse than the console versions (a KT game that has not been well optimized)
Yeah, what an expert. the game is capped to 120fps and you cant change it? there is an ini file you can tweak, also no one mentioned youcan put custom resolution scale.
It's official: Crysis 3 has been topped!
"Can it run Final Fantasy XV?" will be the new benchmark for years to come.
Sig Fried Oh god, I dread to think how badly my ancient PC would run this.
@@justanotheryoutubechannel is trash optimated.
@@kongiponkikongiponki566 I think it has gotten better, as my low end pc can run it at medium/high setting 50 fps, which isn't great, but for how good the game looks it's pretty good
Well.... Now we have rdr 2. And ray tracing.
Not just crysis 3 lol
Gotta love how a 8C/16T CPU is mid-range now!
exactly.
heh. I would not worry too much about my listed 8 core 16 threaded Ryzen there, which does look rather "high end" in pure words and numbers alone. I tested the game with different configurations on the same rig: with less RAM, with it downclocking, and with purposefully limiting the amount of threads the game can use.
One must not forget as well IMO that Ryzen is not exactly amazing in single threaded performance, it performs like a 2 or 3 generation older intel in that regard.
But thanks for the comment and watching the video! I will take your words to mind!
it sits between a 6xxx and a 7xxx series intel. Not a match for the current 8000 series im afraid. The gap is closing but its still there. I would get a hexacore Intel I5 for gaming.
I am also a huge fan of the most recent i5. A huge fan.
it's the price of the CPU that makes it mid range, not cores etc. Highend on AMD side is Threadripper.
I never understand this need for super high shadows in games. I always turn it down as I prefer the softer shadows. I don't recall ever going outside during the day and looking at super sharp line shadows......ever lol.
ok
I fully agree with this. I hate the idea that all shadows need to be these super precise lines. Sorry, but if you walk through the woods on a sunny day, you will NOT see shadows like that. If a surface is close enough to the object that is casting the shadow, then you'll get a nice, fine shadow (think of the lapel on Noctis' jacket), but you won't get one from the top of a tree, 50 or so feet in the air so as to see each, individual leaf and needle. It just doesn't work like that.
That's the first thing I do also.
I had the same opinion. The highest shadow options looked too sharp, and the one down from it looked much better. It's interesting, because for a while there Nvidia Soft Shadows were really popular, which is meant to soften the shadows like we prefer. But they didn't include any options like that in this game.
PCSS and HFTS are awesome techniques, that's for sure, but holy shit is there some stupid in this OP. "I don't recall ever going outside during the day and looking at super sharp line shadows......ever lol [eww by the way].", what an incredibly ignorant, trespassing into moronic statement. I agree that _most_ shadows are soft outside, that's factually correct, and if I had to choose only one shadow option, I'd be right with you guys. However, there are nearly _always_ hard shadows present as well. Modern games are slowly getting to the point where we can get both-simultaneously-which is exactly what we should want (or more importantly, because people don't know what they want, what is correct). I really wish this game had a good PCSS implementation (like say ac unity/syndicate), while retaining the shadowlib option. These small shadow details really make the game pop, like on Noctis' breast pockets. Just because you have a good point doesn't mean you get to just pretend reality isn't a thing. If you've never seen a sharper shadow outside, then you either have never been outside, only go outside at night wearing sunglasses (so you can, so you can), live in a ever foggy Transylvanian castle town, only walk backwards staring straight up, are being insanely extremist in regards to your use of the word sharp, or are partially to fully blind.
Most people have gtx 1050ti or 1060s , would be nice to see a test on something that the mainstream has.
Gray Fox That's not the point. This is a graphics comparison, idiot.
he claims to be midrange... now a gtx 1070 , 16gb ram and a octacore is midrange? Go read the steam surveys.
Hello there! I will definitely be making sure to cover a broader bit of PC hardware as time goes on and more of my testiong setup is in place and ready to go. In the mean time though, I will be providing that type of coverage by downclocking, and changing the game's ability to utilise so many threads as well as utilising a GTX 1060 and RX 580 (only had the upper mid tier 1070 for this part of the video).
I also typed it earlier in a comment on here, but one not forget that Ryzen may be very threaded, but it lacks that single threaded punch you see in an intel chip. It looks a lot scarier than it performs! I swear :D
But thanks for your comment and I am definitely going to keep it in mind.
1060 is pretty much equal to the rx 580
Because the 1060 and 580 perform the same.
I have no fucking clue what they’re talking about and I still watched the entire video
Yeah its not so simple but you could consider learning or youll miss most of DF content
I really appreciate when you do an in-depth analysis of each and every aspect of a PC version like you did here. This is why I subbed this channel for and also for the console stuff that you regularly do. As well as, for the awesome DF Retro series. Thank you everyone at DF. This is a very well put together video. Looking forward to the part 2 of this. Oh and Alex, welcome & congrats. Only two videos in and I already like your input/commentary on these vids, keep up the good work. You'll soon be a valuable asset to DF, I feel. Looking forward to more of your content.
As someone who has subbed your channel a long time ago, this is a wonderful comment to read. I really respect the work you have gone into in recreating console settings on mid range PCs. One thing that will hopefully happen over time, is that I can go through all the video options in detail and maintain a pace that is understandable and still exciting. It will take time I know, especially at the beginning as I develop my own sense of style.
So really, thank you for this comment. I will do my best!
I love how much better the geometry based plant life looks compared to alpha blended textures. It makes the plants actually appear to have volume
These PC graphics analyses are almost as entertaining as playing on PC! Keep 'em coming, DF!
Great video once again, you guys are the best when it comes down to detailed comparisons
If, (in real life), shadows are sharper the closer to they are to the object casting them, why don’t games replicate this? “High” settings simply seem to make shadows unrealistically sharp.
The funny thing is, if you look at actual shadows in the real world, they are anything but sharp or crisp the way they look at highest setting in FFXV. Real world shadows look a lot more like the "average" setting for shadows in FFXV. I'm looking at my own shadow now casted on the wall next to me and the edges are smudged, blurred, unclear. The shadows at highest / high in FFXV look so weird in comparison, but dropping it to average makes them a lot more believable looking (and saves you some fps lol)
Some games actually do exactly that. Rise of the Tomb Raider has something called Sunsoft Shadows as an option. What this does is make shadows behave as they would in real life, with them being sharper at their source and slowly softening. I agree that hyper crisp, distinct shadows looks strange as hell.
I mean... GTA V does this on PC. Nvidia PCCS Shadows.
Many games are doing this. But tbh, who cares? There are many unrealistic effects, it just makes the game look better. Super bloomy effects aren't realistic either, but sometimes CG graphics are looking better than realistic effects.
It depends on what the artists on the team were going for. Clearly the FFXV were hewing more on the side of realism with the way light scatters, shadows are cast, etc... In this case it's a valid criticism, whereas if the game were clearly going for a stylized approach to light, shadows, water, etc... we wouldn't criticize it with comparisons to real life.
This Alex guy seems chill. Maybe he has a future in DF.
Love the detailed PC analysis! Really helps when it comes to knowing the best settings to tweak for performance or visuals.
This review with high end PC and a average (to high) PC is AWESOME! I love how you guys discuss back and forth the 2 experiences. This gives us a GREAT perspective on what to expect in these kind of conditions! Keep up the good work!
XB1 X is holding up really well, in fact, is performing really well for a console (great job MSFT and Square Enix).
Moses Jonson Lol no. I haven't watched the video yet but if you think this way I'm pretty sure they didn't mention the real upgrades aka Nvidia GameEorks effects.
MadFinnTech I stopped at “I havent watched the video “
Xbone is 30FPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Console peasants allways compare graphics but FPS is at least double on PC on every comparison.
Sunshine Starcraft Well said, they compare unimportant shit.
Sunshine Starcraft how is 30 fps bad for a game in which you don't need to react as fast as possible? And xbox one x supports 60 fps
You can select 240 fps by messing with some .ini files.
I commented below, but thanks for telling us this!
Best,
Alex
hz is a diminishing return, "most" people will struggle to tell the difference much over 120fps anyway, so 120 is still very nice if you had the GPU grunt to not drop below.
You can also break the game that way. lol
as if anyone can run the fucking thing in 240fps anyway lol
still, this is good to know, in 5 years we may be able to pull this off and it will be glorious
icy1007 what breaks? The game was built to work with variable framerate, nothing is actually tied to fps to my knowledge
Any chance of that part 2? Even now, a year later, it’d be useful, especially as this game is coming to Game Pass in 2020.
16 ram and an SSD is a must, my first playthrough was with 8gb ram and just an HDD, gtx 1060 3gb & i7 4790k and the game stuttered a LOT, now that I upgraded to 16gb and the game installed on an SSD the game runs a lot better.
Superb analysis...please do more such detailed PC settings analysis...it helps PC gamers like me a ton...and very educational as well...really appreciate !!
Amazing analysis as always DF. Thanks to you guys I can better improve my settings as now I have a way better understanding of each option.
Best PC update for a game period
Looks like the best of the best next gen games back in 2018
Love all the knowledge guys. This was a very educational video for me as I'm more or less new to PC gaming. So thank you.
Finally DF has new staff... he sounds like he knows his stuff and looking forward to his take on technical breakdowns.
He did a great job. He is still with them today.
1700 RX 580 rig mid ranged?
...Wait, so you're saying my GTX 560 is no longer mid ranged?
Ye, both are under the umbrella of mid tier.
560 is low end....
1060 is mid range, 1050ti is low end, 1070-1080 are high end, and the 1080ti and titan are the best money can buy.
KrSsumday I would consider the 1060 high end because it’s on terms with cards like the 580 and in some cases beating it
Trogdor8freebird No. Sorry to say that times go on.
*MID RANGE* pulls out a 1200$ pc.
That aint no midrange pc boi.
RX 580 use to be $200, thanks to miners it's now about $500, lame as hell.
would love to see their high end pc.
a ryzen 7 and an rx580 is midrange
LemmeSmash MemesAndShit He said "mid to upper-mid tier" literally what that ryzen build is
Bobert Daniels i know. Gtx 1070 is considered high end.
thanks for waiting to the last second to mention this is a 2 part series. i was waiting the whole video to see performance numbers.
With a mix of average and High settings (mostly high) GTX 1070 can lock the framerate at 60FPS at 1440p resolution, still visually better than X1X, slighly lower resolution and double the framerate! this is why PC gamers pay more for their systems. and even X1X version isn't a stable 30FPS and dips into low 20s in this game.
I think the hamburger analogy works here, the console user and the pc user order a hamburger, the console users comes out quickly and it shows, the bun is falling off the meat is unevenly cooked the tomatoes are crushed theres no mustard the lettuce is a bit past ripe and the fries are burnt, the console user is happy with his meal and gobbles it up, but the pc user is happy to wait a little bit longer because when his food comes out the burger is neatly stacked, the bun is nice and evenly toasted, the patty is grilled to perfection, the lettuce and tomatoes are at peak flavor and ripeness, and the fries are hot and fresh, and the pc users meal came out cheaper
My i7 7700hq and 1070 laptop is getting a locked 60fps at 1440p with everything maxed except reflections are at average and hair works turned is turned off.
Great video. You touched every subject including CPU intensive graphic options which I was searching for mainly. Thanks a lot.
DigitalFoundry, please do an FFXV PC vid in Altissia. That's where the graphics are never done before.
I love the Super Mario World scrolling sound effect whenever John stretches the video.
That's right, John. It feels huge, John. I'm making noises, John.
John.
These videos are by far your best. So insightful and interesting. Good job!
New guy seems pretty good so far
Playing through it again, the performance and higher settings makes it an astonishing experience. It is quite demanding.
Much as I'm loving playing this on PC, the Xbox One does an impressive job on this. Great time to be a console gamer if that's your preferred way to play.
For 30 fps? Naaaahhhhh.
Loving the hentai focused content DF! Keep it up.
NordicRainy lol
This would be Yaoi with a hint of Bara?
NordicRainy what? I'm very confused lol ff15 isn't hentai
Right!
Next time they will do technical review on Gal Gun and Senran Kagura if they see your comment
This game is amazing and it's times like this I'm so glad I invested in an Enthusiast level PC
Man... I've been waiting all week for this!
Please, do a performance test next.
Alex is doing a great job, (not that you need me to tell you) but you area very welcome addition to the DF team :D
Thanks for such a kind comment. It really makes me feel at home in the community!
Welcome Alex. Hope you can put up great content
Thanks a lot, I will do my best to put out content that is informative and entertaining!
I looked all around GOOGLE (more then 2 hours of search)..
And couldn't find a good explaining /comparison between settings (each separate setting comparison & explaining)
Digital Foundry is #1 when it comes to graphics and deep explaining (more then regular comparison)
Quality is something Rare these days (very few channels have quality standers)
It's "Google". Not "GOOGLE". It isn't "more then 2 hours of search" . It should be " I searched for more than two hours". "..couldn't find more than a good explaining.." should be "I couldn't find a good explanation...". Quality is indeed lacking these day's. And the "standers" OMG! somebody save the standers! Are you a Tide Pod survivor?
you only had to look on the actual steam forums for all info before the game was even released... LOL
Robert Fierce you realized that demo is slightly different than final release, do you?
Because of Demo already included Ultra Textures.. and accordingly to steam page, Ultra Textures in final realese need 1080ti (it's need 11 GB of VRAM or above)
So yes, in this situation, an expert is needed, not 12 year old kids who play 2010 games then they complain about how this game is not optimized
the forums are full of people running 1080ti's and titan xp's..I'm one of them. I knew all the settings in the game and what they affect since the demo was out. and hundreds others did as well. easy to find this info. just ignore the whiny kids with level zero accounts and look for good info instead. or waste two hours on google instead. or wait a week or more for DF to post a video. your choice.
Robert Fierce Lol, ok np mate
How about bug with summoning in fights? I heard people complain about crashing issues with summoning and some others have very low fps after summoning
Welcome to Alex to the df team!
Thanks a lot! :D I hope I can make content that is both informative and entertaining in due time!
I got this game on steam sale ... one of the most unoptimized games ever. The game looks so blurry , textures keep on streaming and frame rates keep dropping during combat.
Running a i7 4790K + 1080Ti + 8GB Ram and I cannot keep a stable 60FPS on 1440P.
RTX 2080ti
i7 10700k
16GB DDR4 3200MHz
I get small pauses constantly when loading in assets. Game is on an NVME.
Great depth to the analysis. Thanks!
“It feels huge John”
🤔
Welcome aboard, Alex. Great stuff.
Thanks for the kind words :D
60FPS is the real game changer. After completing it on the PS4, the PC version honestly feels leaps above the consoles. Especially since combat is so fast paced.
leonthesleepy ff 15 needs minimum 60fps for it's combat, played through on ps4 and you Literaly can't tell wtf is going on or what you're doing In 30fps 95% of the time.
I agree...i regret playing it on the PS4
240fps is wheres it at bro
TAA: -extra blur (unbearable at 1080p)
-ghosting
Loving the pc focused content DF, keep up the good work. Has a blast playing this game this past week, this game runs very well on my GTX 980ti at the ultra settings preset with nvidia turf effect and nvidia hairworks on.
PC gaming in 2018.. LUL. At least you guys get 1 game a year and dont have to play bugfests early access mobile games like PUBG every single day.
30 fps on 2018? it is not 1990 anymore
I agree.
"30 fps on 2018? it is not 1990 anymore"
most games were 60fps back then lol, 2d ones anyway
Shame XV is just a big dissapointment as far as gameplay and story goes. Luckily XII recently came put on PC, being marginally better.
Rewatching this in 2021 because I'm trying to get ff15 running well and lo and behold this was one of A Bat's first videos! Legend is born!
What a shame that the story isn't at the same level as the graphics
yea separated into dlc, mini anime series, movie and demo. All bc the guy didnt want to make a FFXV-2. I wuldve been fine with a 2nd entry if it meant the story quality improves and doesnt hav to b broken up so much across multiple media forms.
Apparently the new dlc makes some changes/fixes to the story and adds a chapter and other stuff.
+TheRedRaven U mean the Royal dlc? I thought it only added a new dungeon and expanded the last section of the game. Havent played the game since I had to wait for all dlc/patches to b released.
FirPtl I skimmed through a review to see what’s in it and they mentioned “fixes to the story”. Not sure what they changed or updated but I guess they tried to improve the story.
+KrSsumday U also forgot about the Platinum demo.
Great work. Thank you for such deep analysis!
im only 3 hours into the game on pc.. and it, seems boring
does it change?
EDIT about 10 hours in now and its getting much better
No.
No
yes
Nope
You're not playing it correctly.
Nice Work!
I loved the graphics comparisons. I myself was not able to find differences for lightning;).
A note from me as an Vega64 user. There are some problems that I experienced with the PC Demo right now.
-TRAM@ "highest" causes stutter(with and without HBCC), "high" seems to use the same textures, but sometimes they get loaded later then with the "highest" setting.
-Turf causes little Frametime spikes on AMD. If the FPS stay high enough it is not a big deal, but @1440p or higher that may not be the case.
-some interaction with particle effects in fights causes bad FPS and very bad Frametime peaks on AMD cards. There are two "solutions" to this bug. 1st set geomapping@ off(and loose ground tessellation) or set shadows to "low". (I don't want to advertise my videos in your comment section but I made a video ablut the particle bug)
I prefer shadows@ low because they still look acceptable and I can keep the nice looking tessellation.
With my Vega, I can use shadow libs. It is not disabled for all the AMD cards, but it comes with a high performance impact and I don't think it is worth it.
Can you confirm this observations for the released game?
Hey guys there’s a mad stuttering issue with this game nowadays, any idea why?? Thanks, love your channel btw, hopefully figure this out sooner than later, it’s mind blowing my irratating
Hello! I'm sorry, this is a few months late, but if you're still curious: the August 2018 update to Final Fantasy XV on Steam introduced the Avatara feature as well as an unfortunate, consistent stutter. The only way to fix this is to roll back to a version before the Avatara update. However, Square just recently announced that they're planning to patch out the Avatara feature (which contained an online functionality Steamworks check that most folks believe caused the stutter to begin with) in June, so it's possible that the stutter will be "fixed" soon.
@@sagewaterdragon is it fixed now?
@@tostadorafuriosa69 Cases vary, but generally the answer is yes.
Only bugs ive seen so far are, if switching between controller and a keyboard the game can bug out a bit, and if you summon, the frame rate perma drops 50% till restart. Hope these get fixed
Of course the PC version is better but COMMON! For 500 bucks I'm blown away on the xbone
you got what you paid for, on next life try to be rich please
Laggy It actually runs 60 fps on my 1070(what I found for about 80$) but when I put the resolution up to 200% it starts lagging really hard and drops to 20fps. What is the resolution even?
Same setting as XB1X you'll get 40K/30+ on a GTX 1070 stock, almost perfect frame pacing as well locked to 30fps.
I tested xbox and pro recently. I think theres not too much of a difference in full hd mode BUT if you use big 4k screen the difference is huge. Ps pro games look blurry!
i set it to highest setting with all nvidia gameworks and beginning cut scene at the car with glad, game stutters to 5 fps...anyone else have this problem? i'm running gtx 1070 and it runs average of 60 fps 1080p except in that cut scene. ram usage was over 8gb in that scene.
Try limiting the game fps to 60 instead of 120, fixed the issues for me
Turn TRAM down to Average. Trust me. I have a 980 Ti and at both the Highest and High settings I had the same exact problem. Setting TRAM to Average completely solves it. The problem, from what I understand, is that setting it higher than Average for a card with 6GB or less of VRAM, makes the game think you have more than you do, and so it starts using your regular RAM in addition to the VRAM, causing all sorts of problems. Even 8GB of VRAM isn't enough for the Highest setting. You need a 1080 Ti or Titan Xp to use that setting.
The issue varies from system to system then, because my 8gb 1070 had the same problem until I limited the fps to 60. My TRAM is currently maxed out and I don't have any fps issues in cutscenes.
Having a 4gb gpu and TRAM at High is no issue at all,no crashes or stuttering and smooth fps.Highest on the other hand does make me stutter and drops my fps a bit and have had crashes.
how many RAM do you guys have?,
I have 8gbs, and i suffer stutters when using high mode :c, GTX 1060 3gb
Hmmm... Would have liked to see the video in hdr though...
medium settings in 1360p while struggeling to maintain 30 FPS... Xbot One X is laughable. That's as far away from the "4K 60 FPS" talk back at E3
That’s also a developer issue and not a console issue. Do some fucking research. The presentation of a game isn’t solely based on the hardware it’s running on. It’s HEAVILY dependent on the developer taking advantage of said power. If a game isn’t optimized it’s doesn’t matter what it’s running on.
as someone who's watched the announcement trailer in 2006 (then PS3 exclusive)...I never thought i'd be waiting 12 years but they're almost forgiven because 4K maxed on OLED is a serious treat
I'm so happy pc is finally getting the ports it deserves! ❤
I am more than impressed with the gaming setup I have....PS4 Pro hooked up to a 65" LG 4k HDR TV with a LG sound bar for that extra punch in sound. I love how FF15 looks and sounds .
Does ff15 runs on a
i3 4150
8gb ram
Nvidia GTX 960 at 1366x768 resolution
shaik sarmath yes youll be a bit cpu limited but it should be very playable
Yes no problem at that res
It should. However, get a ssd. This game require you to have ssd or else loading is crazy long....
Might as well play it on an Xbox One... lol
icy1007 that res and set up is most likely a laptop.
I’m playing at 1440p and just capped at 30FPS because I couldn’t get a consistent 60. And wow this game is GORGEOUS! Decided to to say eff it and lower the frame rate cap. No regrets.
already play on ps4 but i will buy steam version for sure. that graphic is masterpiece
did the same
Great video, was this recorded before the E3 video? it feels like Alex was a lot more comfortable talking in the E3 video (not that this is a problem of course)
Titan XP vs One X ? 😱 😅
It's stupid because 1080 Ti is about the same as an XP anyway.
Earth is about the same as Jupiter
KrSsumday Obviously it costs £600 whereas you can get the Xbox for £400
KrSsumday Because GTX 1070 is more powerful than a X1X GPU.
video clearly shows how a 1070 easily beats the X ..what u talking bout Titan XP for? We show it cause we can ..not cause it's needed
Great analysis as always!
Xbox One X the top tier console
Vs
Top tier PC maxed out
Xbox One X holds it own good job Microsoft
It actually does, doesn't it? I was impressed with how nice it looks. PC version is indeed an improvement but the Xbox One X version is no slouch.
Kirk-Da Rooster Gordon Lol no. I haven't watched the video yet but if you think this way I'm pretty sure they didn't mention the real upgrades aka Nvidia GameEorks effects.
You might want to watch the video then.
30 fps though...Pc is 60 fps with better visuals (not overly better, but still better)
The framerate is a huge difference
Very respectable for an APU! I'm 100% pc gaming through and through, but I will say that the one x is tremendous for its price point and architecture. The only concern is have with Microsoft, is that they release everything on pc too, so I can't bring myself to buy a one x as it will generally end up being a 4k bluray player.
Thanks for showing this! :)
But did something happen to how youtube encodes videos? In the last few days i have seen videos like this, which just look horrible in motion.
There are those huge blobs which are not updated whenever something is moving it kind of looks like the scaling effect from old games like Outrun or Lotus.
Whenever the character moves around the grass it looks REALLY bad. There are just huge squares everywhere.
Can you look into this?
Older Videos(from you and others) do not suffer from this as bad as this.
Why do you guys get an overpriced CPU & GPU but cheap out on the DRR4? DRR4 at over 3000Mhz does make a difference in performance.
The Zen architecture takes advantage of faster ram. But what do i know? im not a DF PC expert.
It's been very difficult to even GET the ram chips I need let alone those at a reasonable price. Ram is in a horrible spot right now.
have you seen the prices of the GPus?
True ram is overpriced at the moment, fair enough.
Not. You need a ryzen 7 or a threadripper to make a difference with ram speed.
Felt a bit flat compared to other coverages. The console was not focused upon much. Also, nothing was said about the Ryzen setups and comparison between the setups and console. I think we will have another video about this game.
"mid-range PC" - 1070. What.
yeah thats low end
Pfff potato pc
hahahahha this age too well sadly
2070 is not mid range, it's on the lower end of high range.
@@aaronth07 2070?!?!?!?!?!?!
Why does my Xbox One X graphics never look as good as they say it does?
Your phone is 720p
Derp Derp because u don't have one
You either dont own one or dont have a 4k television.
Probably because its imaginary.
You probably have a 1080p display. While the x automatically detects 1080p tvs and the hardware applies supersampling and other aa methods, you won't get the same sharpness as you would on a 4k tv.
This really is a gorgeous looking game and I'm glad I held out for the PC version, as an avid FF fan this is a real treat and thanks for such a detailed, informative video guys, keep it up!
Xbox One X once again continues to amaze me
Not bad for a $500 box.
Otie Floro Lol no. I haven't watched the video yet but if you think this way I'm pretty sure they didn't mention the real upgrades aka Nvidia GameEorks effects.
Xbone is 30FPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Console peasants allways compare graphics but FPS is at least double on PC on every comparison.
Otie Floro absolutely 👍
Sunshine Starcraft are you just copying and pasting your comment under anyone saying something nice e about consoles? This is the third time I'm seeing this is exact comment from you on this video
That's sad man....like really fucking sad
Michael I disagree. If the option is there for it’s nice. But if it isn’t there big deal.
The is an amazing game I'd recommend every rpg fan to get.
It might not be as sophisticated as the Witcher, or even artistic like AC Orgins, but the pure laid back journey you experience is absolutely delightful. The story will stick with you for months to come, the plot is very well done and has tons and tons of supporting lore. The PC visuals are amazing, especially in cities like Altissia. People ranting about the plot are whiney day one players, as of right now, free patches have made the game leaps better than it was.
An experience I'll never forget.
FFXV looks amazing & perform well, but anybody on PC feel that FFXV PC version isn't as optimized as something like Witcher 3? I mean Witcher 3 has dense area with forest, snow, etc.
It is well optimized. People are dumb and think their 1060 have to stay competitive for 10 years. Graphics evolve.
I think I have a total of 300 hours logged in the Wticher 3, a game that I absolutely cherish, but this game in terms of rendering features is quite a lot higher pegged than the witcher 3. It should though! It came out nearly 3 years later on PC!
Optimisation is also a tough word. Optimisation can also mean making the same visuals run with better performance, or culling those visual features for less performance.
Both games do allow you to reduce settings though enough to approach consoles at which point you start seeing framerates look much better... and more what you expect. But all these larger high, ultra, or optional features tend to be very heavy... with good reason though! World space ambient occlusion, hair rendering, or massive floral rendering are just brutal computational problems. I am grateful the game offers those options even though it makes it look less "optimised" as a result.
Thanks for your comment and taking the time to watch the video!
Parallax maps have been around for a while. Look at the 2004 TES IV:Oblivion demos.
Yeah, or hidden away within Far Cry 1's editor :D
This game may not have Parallax mapping as far as I could find on any surface, but it definitely does have the available tessellation for the ground.... which has some distinct advantages over normal parallax mapping. For example, how it handles grazing angles, how shadows look when they cast across it, and how you can technically align IK to it.
Sunshine Starcraft the thing is with the same GPU (old or new), Witcher 3 has a better graphics fidelity & settings in stable 60 fps than FFXV. Also, I think the way the lightings & shadows rendered in FFXV seems pretty taxing while it produced not that good (in my opinion). I've this weird "might be bug" shadows when characters enter/exit from a contrast lighting area. Also, compare it to something like MGSV, it has a better visuals on certain aspects (especially the dynamic lighting effects) than FFXV.
Though, there is no denying that FFXV has excellent 3D hairs & the best in-game 3D foods in any game, LOL. It's so detailed that you can see the glimmering texture of a meat that might get you drooling.
Anyway, maybe that's also why the new Kingdom Hearts & FFVII remake are using UE4 instead.
The mouse (F1) button is for changing the window position in windowed mode, does nothing in fullscreen mode unless you have more than 1 monitor.
This game looks so good at true 4K. I originally played FF15 on PS4 Pro, and when input switching from PC to PS Pro, the difference is staggering. As for the Xbox One X, it is in this weird place, I own one but I have not booted it up in months. I ether played the game on PS already, or I prefer to buy the PC version of a new game. There really is no reason for me to have an Xbox One X. Now if I did not own a PC, that might be a different story. All in all the PC version maxed out in 4K with HDR on a OLED is breathtaking!
Wtf did you buy an Xbox one x for ?
Derp Derp I work in the industry. I kind of need to be in the know for me to do my job well.
I'm playing this right now on a xbox one x and an LG OLED B7 55inch. All of that talk is gibbirish compared to actually playing the games that takes advantage of the hardware and there's over 100 of those reasons to boot this bad boy up on an oled display. Im in IT, have a nice rig, n am smart enough and have the common sense not to buy a "pro" over my standard ps4. Smh
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Young Native For you this may be the case. Not so much for me. Similar to you, I am playing on a 65” LG C7 OLED, and I am hard press to find a game on Xbox X that I can’t play in true 4K with better FPS on my PC. Like I said, if I did not have a PC, the Xbox X would be the one I would play my 3rd party games on. If you care about Performance and Graphic quality then PC is hands down the best. If you care about exclusive games, then PS4 and Switch is your best bet. That leaves Xbox in this wired middle ground that makes the system useless for me personally.
Thank man, a lot of details and info! I like so much this video.
It's really sad to see how all the Xbox fanboys are crawling out of their shadows now that the Xbox One X is released and use every opportunity to say how it is the best console ever made and that the PlayStation sucks. Even though in the end there isn't that much of a difference and it's all about the games anyway. That being said, it's great for MS that they have managed to build a 500$ box that can achieve such a performance. Personally, I can't wait to play Last Of Us 2 on PS4 Pro. Looks amazing so far.
RedVIII Okay, I’m excited for the next Last Of Us as well, but how the hell does it look ‘great’ so far? We haven’t seen any gameplay.
It's not an achievement for MS to be able to build a 500$ box like that. They added a bit of memory and a faster GPU. Given the CPU is a dinosaur and the memory is shared between CPU and GPU, it's clearly not hard to make.
Also, achieving 4k in 30FPS is easy. a 200$ graphics card do it (the graphics card have a ton of components around the chip who cost a lot and are useless for MS, they just buy the chip itself). If you add 50$ for the CPU (yes, this is what it's worth) you still have more than 200$ for the small amount of memory, the small power supply, the low cost proprietary motherboard. Since they buy all that stuff in large amount, they have a lower price too.
RedVIII why do you let it get to you
You must care deep down
Sunshine Starcraft well build one and show us how unimpressive the Xbox one x is. All I hear is talk, can’t wait for the video!
Sunshine Starcraft at current GPU prices? Fat chance.
TRAM, turning it on to max is fine as long as you have pagefile to store the texture.
Can confirm this. The game uses as much RAM as you have. I have 64GB system RAM and a rtx 2080 ti with 11GB VRAM. I set TRAM at maximum and the game uses ALL VRAM and 20GB system RAM! I just.. wow.. no stuttering, no pop ups, no problem at all. By the way, my CPU is a i9 9900K.
Console peasants damage controlling
All this goodness, and MOD SUPPORT. Game will look even better soon.
Most beautiful game he has ever seen... What about Horizon Zero Dawn on ps4 Pro...
Ezau Wassenberg not even close lol
Alexandre Giaccheri so you think this is the most beautiful game then...
Ezau Wassenberg no, The witcher 3 maxed out at 60+ fps is pretty fucking beautiful (fps makes the game look smoother so you know it's a nice touch) tho hzd is nice looking, I was playing it like 5 minutes ago actually, tho I own a ps4 slim since pro isn't all that much of an upgrade, still nice tho.
FFXV looks better than The Witcher 3.
Since both have different styles, I’d say it’s a close cut.
After having played both, I think that the luminous engine with ffxv is the best looking engine/game to date.
It has more details and realistic looking textures than HZD.
Anyone else think of Jurassic Park when Alex said "Hello John"?
No? Just me?
PC is Like a Car, many cool things and Power, Consoles Are Like Bikes, Cool But Still Weak!
Beto Boss even though 97% of PC are less powerful than an Xbox one x lmao
3% of a 300,000,000+ userbase is still a greater number than the maybe 5% of the sub 40,000,000 Xbox players that currently own an X.
Not everyone chases after the most powerful hardware, as proven by the 30 million people that went Xbox One this console gen.
and that 97% of PC user have more powerful PC than OG Xbox user which is like 99% of the xbox ecosystem
TheFreeToaster 1% of ps4 gamer's buy exclusives over multi format titles but let's not let reality get in the way.
I didn't see any texture streaming issues on my Vega 64 using the Highest setting
Shadowlibs broken, missing artifical lightsource shadows (in certain spots) at night, hair physics tied to framerate, awful framepacing, general game physics glitching out at higher framerates than 30.. it's a mess in my opinion. I hope it will get patched. Oh, and the godawful dithering on hair/roads.. TAA is the ugliest AA method in my opinion.. and having a game designed around it is meh.
Not to mention a memory Leak maxing out 32GB and even 64GB RAM after long play sessions resulting in stutter and fps drops
For me going from Hammerhead to Galdin Quay and doing the hunts there was enough to max out my 24GB of RAM, had to restart the game to fix, the worst part is that later dungeons might be unplayable for some with this issue since manual saves are disabled.
I was playing at max settings with vxao off
Oh don't forget the summons! straight lock to 20-25 fps. I'm honestly dissapointed by this "port".. all those showcase videos of the Luminous engine were.. too good to be true.
The port is fine, but it does have a memory leak & can cap to 15fps in summons. they need to fix that ASAP.
Oh another thing to mention that is interesting.. the Demo had a config tool that would let you change quite alot of graphical features, including LoD Distance for shadows and objects up to 800 respective 1600%, and toggles for Nvidia flow etc. The benchmark even had several different ini files with HBAO as option, but those things were all removed for the final game..
20hours in I did not see any of the bugs you speak of besides summoning fps cap (wtf is this bug even?).
You guys failed to mention Nvidia Flow for some fire effects, like the campfire. My tests show that is part of the "Assets" option, which I wish it wasn't since I wouldn't have the high res pack if I could enable it without the high res pack.
Xbox One X holds up very well, not bad for a $500,00 box. Unfortunately I can't say the same about the PS4 PRO, an overpriced piece of junk.
If you paid $500,00 for a Xbox one x you got ripped off
Both hav very few games tht are 1080p 60fps which makes both shite. no other option except pc (for everyting n ms exclusives) n ps4 pro (for ps ex.). ofc 1x is more powerful n more expensive bt its an illogical purchase
That £500 box, but add to that another £500 for the OG Xbone and online subs for the generation, thats well over a grand spent this gen for playing games on console
ivo bias is real..... sad....
ivo Lol no. I haven't watched the video yet but if you think this way I'm pretty sure they didn't mention the real upgrades aka Nvidia GameEorks effects.
Welcome to the team, Alex!
Thanks for the kind welcome! ^_^
pc win again
Well done have a banana 🍌
Xbone is 30FPS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Console peasants allways compare graphics but FPS is at least double on PC on every comparison.
Александр Волошин you have that backwards consoles is pcs little brother using cut down hardware that the pc uses. for example pc gets access to AMDs best tech while console doesnt.
console peasants have many way to defend, haven't they?
Александр Волошин beating a game has nothing to do with weather it's better or not on a different platform, this is just graphics showcase which happens to be better looking on pc, deal with it.
Model LoD is the MOST intensive setting, not shadows.
To be honest FFXV was better than cyberpunk.
How dare you
Anyone else see some weird things on character's hair? If I turn off AA, then the hair of people have these little artifacts and it looks ugly. But even using TAA I still see some. How is it not in the video?
squalltheonly since ff 13 they're using alpha transparency to render hair. You need a high resolution and TAA to fix the dithering
Mario Tainaka so I can't make it go away on 1080p 100% resolution? That sucks, is the same as when I played on PS4
You could try enabling DSR in nvidia control panel and then set a higher resolution ingame,not sure if it fixes that issue though,in theory it should.