Top 25 Best Duelists in Star Wars
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Please, don't write comments like "why you put Mace Windu or smb else so low or why smb is above Palps
Actually all these mfs are extremely skilled duelists in compare to other SW characters, they are +/- on the same level in dueling
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@@Nailun-e1d After dark
@@force_user kinda feel like dooku is better than vader at dueling but I respect ur opinion, great video 🙂
@@Typical_Dogger thanks bro, but should divide dueling and diuelist
Dueling is combat knowledge, skill, training, talent
But to be really outstanding duelist you should also have great force power, physical strength, and other characteristics like speed, agility etc
In dueling Dooku > Vader
But Vader is better duelist
@@force_user true 👍
Kenobi, im the reason vader walks around in a black refrigerator
💯Coulda killed him again too in Kenobi. Beat that damn mask half off his skull.
Anakin is the reason he walks in a refrigerator
Kenobi: I'm the reason Vader walks around in a black refrigerator, and I'm also the reason he's STILL walking around in it as I could've stopped him from doing even that.
You got an ATM on that Torso Lite Brite?
@@mrmurky1118Plot armour is strong with Kenobi
Obi wan: hold my high ground
Another happy meme
He's overrated af
His arts are defensive only
@@godemperorsaulot anakin and obi wan are Fairly rated-overrated in prequels
Vader is Fairly rated and obi wan (already Ben, old version) is underrated-Fairly rated
@@DFK_Edits anakin is anything but overrated obiwan is extremely overrated and Vader is underrated. People claim he can get one tapped by any form of lightning or that he’s slow af
@@epicgamerman7360 about Lightning, his suit is very weak to lightning, his Durability is so overrated, about Speed, he is fast only in comics, but not in canon
Never let this man cook again
Wdym... this list is good
@@jash2537some of the placements are a little Bs tbf.
@@SWDude2710 Why is that?
@@jash2537obi wan and anakin arent even there, bro put revan above malgus, and didnt even put asoka up there
@@jash2537and nilus hit a rift i guess
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Somehow yoda beating darth vader?
Is soon as I saw this I was dying laughing
learn star wars
Anakin: This is outrageous. ITS UNFAIR!!!
Agreed
@@TheGoat-xb8uj If it's Anakin I'd have to take him top 8. Darth Vader was actually limited in his power level by the suit and how Darth Sidious had it put on him.
Luke never had that problem and he continued getting stronger.
I know if George Lucas were doing it and had stayed by the production he would've made sure Luke would actually leave that damn rock and go as a diversion to stop Kylo Ren.
Even then he'd still be holding back while Ren goes all out. He, George, said that what he was going to do was have it be Kylo's redemption story, where he kills his father and turns fully to the dark, then once he's fought his master and uncle Luke Skywalker, in the sequel, he realizes the mistakes he's made and he then, realizing the darkness and ugliness that Rey has now turned to and fully invited in to her, this leads into a confrontation with Luke Skywalker. They would no doubt have a world breaking fight.
Then, after that, the third one, which Lucas said was going to be Kylo, now back to being Ben Solo, go and help Finn, who he would become good friends and allied with, and he'd help his mother, Leia, stop the now-turned darkside Rey along with Sidious from destroying the world. That's a much cleaner and cooler way to get Luke to show his strength.
Anakin never reached his full potential
@@dionkutzke5846 He was a weak and whiny puxxy
@@dionkutzke5846he did in legends 🤡🤡🤡🤡☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Anakin and Obi Wan not being here is atrocious
Vader..
И Плокуна
Did bro forget who vader was?
Anakin is in the 10th spot my dude, watch it again
@@renanbezerra5601 Anakin and Vader are two completely different people, Vader had to relearn all his forms after he lost his arms, whilst Anakin mastered Form V, and was much more agile.
Luke:
Had 2 lightsaber duels in his life
Malgus:
Dueling for 60 years straight
Im sure he had more in the books
Lmao that’s something that is super confusing about Star Wars, battle experience NEVER matters. Palpatine, who has never been in a real fight, shows up out of nowhere and beats Maul and Savage, who fight almost daily, like nothing
You bet!
@@ToroBravo144to be fair he did train maul
@@ToroBravo144yeah fr.
Yoda: Very delusional he is.
Why
He is more wrong then the person who says he isn't wrong@@Scamble142.
Yeah, as much as I love, he ain't #1, that would be someone like yoda or windu (vapaad and shatter point) or smth idk
😂😂
@@soupahsanic6790 no lol it’s Luke
999 missed calls from Darth Jar Jar
Maul: one sec let me go find my legs
Lol
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Maul is definitely not too 25
Hell no
He is a better duellist than Dooku
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Jeez rip notifications
He doesn’t deserve to be on here
@@epicgamerman7360 bro he defeated anakin and maul (maul multiple times)
@@ippokratismargiouklas2791 ye he defeated the 2 most nerfed and arrogant Sith lords to exist mostly because of his plot armour thicker than Rey “skywalkers”. Everyone on this list would destroy obiwan hence he doesn’t deserve to be here
@@epicgamerman7360 if it all comes down to plot armour how can you tell that luke for example is the best? Doesn't he have plot armour?
@@ippokratismargiouklas2791 the fact that he obliterated the yuuzhan vong and became one with the force 💀 and no after rotj he had no plot armour as the main story ended
Bro actually knows who Bastila and Kas‘im are mad respect.
Pretty much all of these placements are terrible, I doubt bud knows anything about them except their names lol
I mean…if he knows Malak of course he knows Bastila
Kas Im trained bane
"The galaxy is littered with the body parts of those who underestimated Luke Skywalker" -Jacen Solo
if this is an actual quote....My God did it give me Chills
Which is 90% of the star wars fandom today lel
@@rellyrell1522 it is... it is from the Inferno book
@@lucioalmazan1941 thank you for that
@@rellyrell1522 luke is overrated because of legends. Guys legends is not canon. yoda could beat luke my opinion
Windu destroyed the Emperor, a task no one accomplished. Bro proceed to put him in the last position 🗿
Tulak Hord, Mace Windu, Darth Bane, Obi Wan and Darth Sidious
@RealDutchBear Not really, not in dueling, Zannah won using Force Tendrils and both Plagueis and Sidious killed their respective masters through cunning and deceit, not direct confrontation.
@RealDutchBear Yoda is not even top 5 ever, not even top 3 in his own era (Sidious, Mace and Plo Koon were better). Rule of 2 era Sith will always have an edge over Jedi swordsmanship, because they imply many techniques and forms the Jedi don't train and have no idea how to defend against.
Also, Plagueis a great duelist? According to whom? Tenebrous? Venamis? Sidious? Plagueis didn't really duel that much to be praised that much, Sidious had a hard time beating goddamn Yoda, although he was tired due to fighting Mace but, still, if you think about it, prequels era had not that many prodigies in the way of the saber.
@RealDutchBear Plo Koon won Yoda, it's stated many times that he was probably the best duelist of the order alongside with Mace but Mace had advantage over Sidious due to Vaapad being powered by the opponent's use of the Dark Side.
@@ScrubermenschPlo never beat yoda that’s literally a rumor from a wii game that’s neither canon or legends and if we go by George Lucas statements the 3 best duelist in the order by ROTS were Yoda, Mace, and Anakin
Sidious is easily top 5 he was a master in every single form of lightsaber combat
Every Sith on the Banite lineage was a master of all classic 7 forms. What really defines a duelist is their W/L score, in which, funnily enough only 4 people in Legends are known to have never lost: Malgus, Tulak Hord, Obi Wan and Mace Windu
mastering all forms of lightsaber combat doesn't mean you will be top 5
@@Scrubermensch magus actually lost to the character during the ilum conflict. He was killed in that duel so that's at least 1 loss
*malgus
Pretty much every single person on this list is a master of all forms of Lightsaber combat lol
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Fr
Vader is supposed to be a better duelist
@@darthlemonyes
@@darthlemonHe was better with what he had, all be it very limited.
@@darthlemonboth are Overrated asf
Tulak Hord: Manage to single handedly defeat 100 jedis by himself.
1000*
It was 1000
@@chopmedic Yeah and Full potential Darth vader killed the entire Jedi Council.
@@SithLordsAreOurSpeciality false! He didn’t kill Yoda!
@@SithLordsAreOurSpeciality that was dark dimension Vader though…
Tulak Horde could slay Armies with his lightsaber alone. He was called The Unkillible for a reason. Many Sith came and many fell to his blade. He is more powerful than Sidious and hail as THE GREATEST SITH OF ALL TIME.
He should be #1 but since Luke is 1# in this I will accept this.
*Anakin/Knightfall Vader in the corner laughing*
(Hes a Tier9 dualist, same level as Yoda and sidious)
Anakin is vader
Vader is the stronger version of anakin
@@Nigasaur nah
@@DMTS.aepppp ok
@@Иммортал-с1вwym nah? That’s fact, took me awhile to accept that
Obi Wan has left the High Ground
No I'm here
@@Highground609💀
For those who don't know Luke created his own style of lightsaber combat by taking a reinforced style of Form 1 Form 3 Form 4 Form 5 and Form 6 and blending them together Form 5 was actually the foundation or center of the style he created because like all Skywalker's he's gonna have the Form 5
Still doesn't make him better at it than the literal dueling masters on the lists
@@RivianAlchemist i agree on putting him on 1, he atomizes any prequel era character, he's the best duelist in SW history
@@RivianAlchemistExcept for the fact that Luke skywalker mastered all lightsaber forms including vaapad, mastered teras kasi, mastered hundreds of obscured martial arts and created his own lightsaber forms in the process.
Even when its only been 3-5 years since endor, Luke Skywalker at his early 20s alone was stated to wield a lightsaber with such powrr and speed, it looked as if hes wielding over 20 lightsabers at once.
Peak Luke Skywalker is a monster of the highest order
So essentially, an MMA version.
Windu should be in the top 10 at least. He got caught off-guard by somebody he trusted.
He did not trust Anakin but he didn't want to give up on him either
“I don’t think the boy can handle it… I don’t trust him” ~mace windu; I do agree with you tho mace should def be higher
@@parkersouthall1743 he trusted him on the level of he was a Jedi and that they were on the same side and wanted the same things.
Mace should be top 5 he went toe to toe with the strongest sith alive and won
@@raiderray2153 do you even know the caliber of duelists that lived before Windu was even born? He wasn’t even alive with half of the best dueling sith!
Darth Nihilus
"The less said of that one, the better--- even a stray thought may draw him" -Kreia
Darth Nihilus is shit at lightsaber duels
It’s talking about duelists though, and Nihilus was definitely not known for his dueling skills. His powers and his force drain? Absolutely, but he was no duelist
@@TheHomelesslanderyeah im a big fan of him but still not a good duelist, only great force powers, but sidious shouldn't be 20th
@@Darth._.Nihilusdefinitely, he's up there with Revan
@@TheHomelesslanderyeah, nihilus and vitiate dont know how to fight, only use the force xd
Luke will always stay the best as the strongest duelist out there. He's stronger than his father, his fighting style is just too smooth, no aggression, and he can take out multiple opponents at a single time.
Tulak hord should have been first tho, he single handely managed to kill 1000 jedi in the old republic who are all a similar level of force power to plo koon / saesee tin at least
Ok, they are similar, but Tulak Hord was considered a demigod of the dark side, he was the best user of the lightsaber in all the galaxy.
Surely Luke is just the lightside equivalent. If we consider anakin space Jesus, which is clearly the angle lucas was going for, then Luke, being his son, is literally a demigod
remember this is best duelists so it doesn't just mean lightsaber combat that's why luke in his prime could beat tulak hord
@@Battyj My guy... OBI-WAN IS SPACE JESUS
@@massimobmwhat kind of logic is this? How is the most gifted lightsaber user to ever existed is not the best duelist? Tulak Hord, Mace Windu, Prime Kenobi and Malgus can definitely beat Grandmaster Luke Skywalker.
@@Scrubermenschidk about prime kenobi. The rest sure.
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Vitiate may have had a lot of Force Power and Abilities but he was a horrible Lightsaber duelist.
PLO koon should definitely been on the list the only Jedi to beat yoda in a duel but vitiate was never a duelist awesome force power but not a duelist
@@cltottles9512Bro beat him in a non canon game, he got beaten by Savage Opress who was easily handled by Obi-Wan, Maul, Dooku, Ventress, and Palpatine 3 of the people just aren't even on the list yeah he is no where near being mentioned on this list
Vitiate was so powerfull he didn't needed a lightsaber
@@Astrogig No he wasn't fool if that were true he wouldn't have became the best the emperor of the sith
Just cause Luke is the main character doesn't mean he's the best duelist. The glazing is crazy
Tulak hord was the GOAT of all duelist and the gratest sword master.
Agreed
It’s nice to see someone else appreciate his talent
@The Stranger proof?
@@DarthMar i don`t think we actually can compare duelists from Old Republic and age of films, because we never seen absolute skill of every character in star wars, as example we never seen limits of Tython`s hero. Only real mark of duel skill is fair fight.
@Viking Maybe with the force, but not with dueling.
Palpatine deserves higher, so does Kenobi
Palpatine is like Top 1 😂
@@GenichiSojo windu destroyed him
@@thatonerandommf Palpatine wasn't using his full power, I mean he was a genius so he calculated the whole thing but probably not the lightning reflecting and making look handsome
@@GenichiSojo No where does it say that he lost on purpose. Even if he did it, he lost so badly that you should still question whether he'd win if he fully tried
@@thatonerandommf he purposely lost trying to manipulate anakin. This is fact.
Not seeing Obi-Wan Kenobi is strange. He defeated the first Sith in 1000 years, the cyborg to nearly end the Clone Wars and the Fallen Jedi better known as the Chosen One. 🔥💪
+++ the master of Anakin and the first in this list 👏🫡
People glorify old sith too much. Obi Wan and Dooku can contend with just about anyone on this list. Plageuis even stated Sideous would lose to Dooku.
Exar Kun as always tremendously underrated. In a matter of skill as a duelist, he would be rivaling Tulak Hord for first place.
Fr, I was told he was incredible
trash list... kun never lost a duel... and I would give him first spot because he was unpredictable.. used to shorten the blades or turn down the intensity of them mid fight... you could be fighting him and swinging your saber and it would just phase through his and before you know it your split in 2 💀@@faintfiction5389
@@faintfiction5389he is in the old republic he was a straight menace but still showed mercy at times for those he loved.
@@justinruiz3619Yea, he was just very arrogant and ambitious thinking he could control the dark side and still be a Jedi without falling to the dark side, which is what led to his downfall.
He basically invented the Saberstaff if I’m not wrong, or at least perfected its design. Kun walked so Maul could run.
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But Anakin was in the tier list?
@@smajdalf3928 Darth Vader yeah. He should be higher. Higher than Yoda definitely and tied with Luke. Darth Vader mastered ALL lightsaber forms. Not just one of them. He also created his own lightsaber style that was so unorthodox than every Jedi he came across couldn't match it. He had the strength of a droid with the dueling skills of somebody like Yoda.
@@calebhubbard6398 vader was not as strong of a duelist as what anakin couldve become, and definitely not on pars with luke.
@@calebhubbard6398This bro 100% does not know about Luke in his Legends prime
How the hell is sidious a better duelist than Windu? Lucas literally said Windu beat Sidous fair & square.
I think revan should be second, because he did tricks and things that were said to be impossible to do
Exactly but this dude doesn't know facts about revan and is just a revan hater if u prove him wrong he calls u a revan fanboy
@@JT-ih2rx any proof he hates Revan? Any proof he calls people Revan fanboys?
Do not try to accuse or shit talk people if you have no proof of them saying these things.
@@JT-ih2rx I don't think he's a hater, it's just that he's the type of person who focuses on "achievements" and then Raven is down, "but considering what was said" Raven could even be first, that's where Luke enter with more accomplishments
@@illusive1fifty1 wtf you talking about go look at the comments he made he's calling people "Revan fanboy" for proving him wrong
@@dree20 he always underrates revan puts him less powerful then he actually is
This is what real knowledge looks like. Great video!
AHAHAHAAHHA, put mace on 20th place, like daaamn, this guys doesn't know anything about star wars
Mosr of thid shit is inaccurate asf
*You are not talking with mirror*.
Yes ı am not sure how you are know but this man is knows a lot of things ( my opinion)
The first sentence is only a joke
Don’t misunderstand
@@IRecxssive- look at the creator's pinned comment, it's not that he thinks Mace Windu is weak.
@@abjedimaster what is hard to understand is you grammar bro. Can you put a sentence together?
Darth Sidious and Darth Malgus easily get at least one of the ten best lightsaber duelist!
Kenobi laughing in high ground 😂
Yes
Kenobi is not powerful
Meanwhile Obi wan : hold my ground will ya ?
He has no chances againsz every one here
@@FrostByte_06 literally beat vader ...
@@rudranshkapoor1738 even i could. Jks aside but nox negs all
I know there was Darth Vader, but we have to take Anakin into account because if it weren't for Mustafar and if he had been trained, he would have been the most powerful.
In my opinion, Valkorion should also be there
Obviously the son of the chosen one ,the most powerful and best duelist of all time and most powerful Jedi of all time , Luke Skywalker
Nah.
@@fredosantana4531 legends Luke the most powerful of all time ,he is the most powerful and best duelist ,he was trained by obi wan and Yoda
@@javiergonzalez3158 nope
@@JT-ih2rx how the fuck no ,Luke claps tulak hord
@@javiergonzalez3158 luke is only strong in the force he's overrated and he's not a better duelist then vader
Obi wan deserves a spot here, he is literally the greatest form 3 user of all time
Fr
You're wrong on so many levels. Darth Bane is the supreme Master of form 3.
@@ScrubermenschNo Obi wan is
@@OmniSphinx Nice, keep repeating the same thing with no source. In Bane 's time the Jedi were much better duelists compare to prequels era, the best Jedi in that time could end Obi. Also Obi never faced more than one lightsaber user at time, Bane kept up with 4.
@@Scrubermensch I didn't "repeat" anything. Literally saw your comment and gave my opinion. Also it doesn't matter though because the plot would make Obi wan beat Darth bane because Obi is the goat and siths is his specialty. 😏
Y'all be wildin Tulak Horde trained himself in every form of combat including ones that were forbidden including that people stated Tulak Horde to be unpredictable in combat and even stated he couldnt be hit during combat not to include he also made the entire galaxy to their knees and the only person to end his reign was his apprentie who backstabbed him because he was way too scared Tulak Horde easily takes number 1 especially his power feats including killing 1000 of very powerful formiddable jedi and draining their energy for himself and bringing ship out of orbits into the ground being the size of the hammrhead cruiser and even discovering Immortality
Edit (and yes idc if I'm a nerd)
Plo Koon: Grab my gauntlet
@ISC INTERNETS SAVIOR CLUB dying in his ship when order 66 happend lmao
Bro just because he beat Yoda over some training doesn't mean he can beat Yoda actually trying it's still debatable how good he really was.
@@cngotham4111he’s still one of the most powerful Jedi in the history of the order able to master electric judgment and Jedi force lightning.That’s why he owned a yellow lightsaber.
@@RJstudiosYT it's still debatable but yes it's cool that he knows listening I don't know if it's still canon though.
@@cngotham4111 it isn’t debatable it’s a fact.It’s still canon as well.
Even Palpatine states. "Perhaps your feelings for your old master have left you weakened if your past cannot be overcome". That's why he lost he was conflicted.
This is Hayden talking about Vader "Vader is trying his best to kill off that side of him, but there always has to be a little bit of Anakin in there. And that presents itself, and that's a part of the fun. I'm always thinking about the Anakin aspect of this character." "You know, this is the first time we've seen Vader sort of chronologically this close to the Anakin Skywalker character, so there are some indications of Anakin in there"
Dave Filoni : “He takes his first step into a larger world. So I thought it created an interesting space and an interesting opportunity to have him be a part of helping Ahsoka out of her situation with Darth Vader. You needed something implausible to make it plausible that she could escape Vader, otherwise Vader is going to destroy her. There was no doubt in my mind.”
Dave Filoni: One on one could Anakin Skywalker beat Ahsoka. Yea. Absolutely because he taught her."
[m.ua-cam.com/video/1PAOPveZtoE/v-deo.html] Anakin/Vader is a better Dualist than Obi Wan ,Ahsoka Starkiller and Mace Windu.
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Sam Witwer: During force unleashed he cuts off Vaders hand and captures him. I'm not comfortable showing everything we discussed but that was the biggest mistake ever and that Vader was like toying with Luke that the force unleashed 1 and 2 games were all about Vader toying with Starkiller and at some point there would be a confrontation where Starkiller's fighting Vader and everything that worked before is not working now. I cut off your hand (Starkiller) but that wasn't my hand I have no hand(Vader) Starkiller is fighting (how are you doing this?) then Vader answers simply with whatever the line of first Star Script which is i'm Lord Vader dark lord of the Sith something along the lines of the end of that conversation. Starkiller is no match for this guy."
"Yeah, Id (Mace) have him just under Anakin and Yoda but Palpatine is on a whole other level" interview by star ways theory, stunt coordinator ROTS Nick Gillard. [m.ua-cam.com/video/wtTjZtqvkic/v-deo.html]
Kenobi>>>>>>>>>>>Anakin
kenobi is not only a master in defense but also in strategy, using the terrain and situations at hand in combat, soresu is a technique that requires patience to attack, kenobi can easily deal with even the biggest challenges, even being weaker in the Force, he makes up for it in the duel, he probably beat Revan, this goes for Yoda, he has more experience and masters all forms of combat, unlike Revan, who only mastered jar kai/niman.
(mace should also be much higher on this list, he literally managed to create a form of combat from juyo, a form that had never been used by a Jedi, and he even managed to make this form of combat use the dark side against himself, being a counter to himself, and where is Darth Zannah? She killed her master, Darth Bane, she proved to be far superior to him in combat, practically saving his life countless times, as Bane was often captured or was irresponsible and put himself at risk.)
Top 5
Kenobi
Yoda
Tulak hord
Caedus
Luke
Luke over anakin ? Your crazy
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Legends Luke easily solos Anakin in terms of dueling and surpassed Anakin long ago. Cope
@@willisstillhere8846 he’s not a better duelist than anakin rather it’s legends or not
@@hatedkam4460 Canon Luke dueled 8 Sith wraiths without getting hit and achieved lightsaber perfection. What has Anakin have for dueling? Beating Count Dooku? Luke beat Vader who was a better duelist than Dooku
The fact that anakin aint on here is crazy
It is, because this list is incorrect
This list is a lie
It's correct, anakin could not defeat anyone from top 5
@@SC4R3yes not wrong but fp anakin > star wars but anakin neler reach full potential.| revan > anakin 2005
@@sensizgecengunler6620 unfortunately, there is no such thing as FP Anakin
Реван уделает и палпатина и Люка вместевзятых, он был величайшим и сильнейшим, многие говорили, что никогда в истории не видели столь могущественного адепта силы! Никто не овладел так искуссно обеими сторонами, как темной, так и светлой, а Реван сделал это! При этом он обладате острешим умом, крепким ментальным здоровьем, он гениальный тактик, словом, он впринципе сильнейший!
Luke so overrated tho
Thats anakin tbh
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relies on force abilites too much
Not canon, these are legends character and starkiller is not part of either canon or legend.
Why is windu under Palpatine when mace absolutely thrashed him in ep. 3
And NO HE DIDNT LET HIM WIN
In my opinion Luke is overrated
Yeah luke is highly overrated both Canon and legends yes he's strong in the force but not as a duelist
agree
canon luke is not even in top 5 duelists
@@JT-ih2rx Imagine saying that Legends Luke who has the most and best dueling feats of a force user in SW is overrated but Anakin who doesn't even have half of that isn't as overrated yet people compare him to Legends Luke?
@@willisstillhere8846 I've not even mentioned anakin in this comment and legends luke is overrated he does not have the most or best dueling feats calm down he's just strong in the force.
Glad you acknowledged the fact that Dooku was a damn good duelist... nobody gives him credit for repeatedly smashing both Anakin and Obi Wan at the same time... and being like 80 years old... just gonna drop that bomb there... Dooku's only weakness was his age
Anakin stomped him in 12 seconds and Obi Wan stalemated and way stronger version of Anakin. There's no argument for Dooku being a better duelist than either of them.
@@Noan947 again... Dooku= 80 years old... Anakin= 24 at best... there's really no comparison, and pffffft Obi wan? Better than Dooku?? When xD? In ROTS?? oh yeah, he got ragdolled into a bridge and incapacitated... Anakin didn't beat him in "12 seconds" it took him a lot, he even had to use the dark side to amp himself so he could make his strikes heavier, so Dooku had to go switch to defensive, if you watched Clone Wars, you would know Dooku faced those 2 a lot of times and bested them constantly, even when Anakin was already reaching his prime... Obi Wan never stalemated him lol xD, there's a reason why Makashi is the direct counter to Soresu, Obi Wan can never defeat an opponent who doesn't use stamina relentlessly... Dooku focuses on cunning in combat, hence why Obi Wan can't use the style properly, I haven't seen a single instance of Obi Wan being close to besting Dooku, so yeah there are a LOOOOOOOOT of arguments to prove he is better than most versions of them, where Anakin has to be in his prime, Vader or Full Potential to beat Dooku, otherwise both are toast
@@Noan947 the only reason why you think Obi Wan "stalemated" Anakin, was due to the force being by Obi Wan's side... which isn't a "dueling" prowess, Obi Wan was also his master, therefore knew his moves better than anyone... his style, Soresu is the perfect counter for Anakin's form Djem So, which is a very aggressive style, so that's the only reason why Obi Wan could "stalemate" Anakin for so long, not because he was a better duelist than Dooku, Obi Wan was also not 80 years old by that time, hell... if you even watch the combat closely, you can see Anakin always had the upper hand against Obi Wan, Obi Wan had to stay on the defensive side always, proving my point that Soresu is the only reason why he stepped out of that combat, then using Anakin's arrogance to force him to jump and mimic the same move he used against Maul, again... a move Obi Wan knew all too well... so yeah, like that there are a lot of arguments, sorry lad
@@ragingwolf2112 Tough shit that Dooku is old, Anakin is still better.
Anakin recived a boost after Dooku incapacitated Obi Wan, that's why I say he stomped him. Obi Wan also recived a massive boost during Mustafar which is why I say he's above Dooku.
Fuck of with the form counters shit. It's never once stated in all of EU to have an effect on fights, it's not even implied. Obi Wan has also showed many times that he can beat his opponents without them using all their stamina. His fight with Krayt is a great example of this.
@@ragingwolf2112 When is it ever stated that the force is on Obi Wan's side? Also it's very clear in the novelization that they were even. It's even stated that they were identical.
How many times I got to say this Anakin is first place he has more potential than Luke Skywalker Inn in the comics🤓🤓 he becomes a god and kills all of the Jedi and Sith so according to my calculations Anakin is first place🤓🧐
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Я прям знал, что на первых местах будут Скайуокеры
Только не того поставили на 1
@@Иммортал-с1в имел в виду, что вейдер лучше на фихтовании, чем люк?
Palpatine IS way higher than that bro. Missing Obi Wan IS also a sin. Satele Shan IS Better that that.
I really dont know who would be the greater between Tulak Horde and Palpatine. They were both feared in their times as unnatural duelists.
Luke is always the best. The best character in star wars, the best jedi. The best inspiration to us all. Nothing will ever top Lukes iconic greatness and character. Nothing has ever topped the OT and I don't think star wars could ever do it.
Full potential Anakin...
@@nex_2618 Dude, Full Potential Anakin exists only in our minds, he has never existed in real Star Watrs
@@nex_2618 Anakin fans don't make up concepts that fundamentally break Anakins character for the sake of winning a comparison that will never happen challenge: impossible.
Fp anakin never happened and never could, Anakins ego and arrogance wouldn't allow him to get to FP. His need to want more than he should have
@@boopie6635 Be be be
@@nex_2618 just shut up man, I agree with you but please be quiet
Anakin FP: Haha, amateurs
he is not even real
Anakin fan try not to invent concepts level impossible
Meetra Surik 23?WTF
The Exile Meetra Surik owned such complex technology as the Force Channel, and was the best swordswoman among the Jedi of her time with lightsabers.
I would put Dooku above Vader. I mean Vader was slowed because of the suit
Have you seen Obi-Wan Kenobi? (New serie, it's on Disney+)
@@iron-gato225 I have
@@LaloSillymanca So you'll know that he is not that slow.
@@iron-gato225 He is both of them were. But that’s because of the filming not actual powers.
Obi Wan looking down at them all from the high ground “hello there”
I dont care whay anyone says malgus at 15 is a crime
there is literally no better duelist than Tulak hord and its fact
@RealDutchBear please dip your toe into the old republic a little and you will see how powerful they truly are. the Jedi in the prequels got killed by weak clones during order 66 and they weren't even trained to take on Sith or Jedi. that fact alone proves the Jedi were not stronger. then there is the Sith they are a little tricky with them they didn't really show alot of weaknesses but I do know that they didn't have nearly have as much training and knowledge in the dark side of the force like their ancient counterparts. only one that would even stand a chance is Palpatine. I am sorry but Lore can be wrong at times. like Palpatine being stated the most powerful Sith for example. that is wrong cause Vitiate scales above him, slightly if its Legends Sidious.
@RealDutchBear I know you really like that era but they aren't as powerful as the ancients were end of argument.
@RealDutchBear you are the one that is embarrassing yourself you just said Vader could defeat Tenebrae.💀 if it was just Sidious then I would tell you why you are wrong, but you are nothing but a delusional fanboy you aren't even worth my time. FYI Lore can be wrong it literally has been wrong before in Star Wars. and the fact you said Dooku and Maul is above Revan make me think you don't even know who Revan is...
@RealDutchBear think before you talk
I guess I left the chat. 😂
Fr
Darth Malgus, Darth Revan, Darth Marr, Darth Vader, Darth Malak, Darth Bane 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
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People need to stop bringing up “full potential Anakin” we don’t even know what full potential Anakin would be like so you can say he should be on a list. Obi Wan is just mega overrated
Full potential is luke he’s the main character for a reason.
@@harrysimons8119 luke is not the main character. It boggles my mind that you people ignore what George Lucas says.
Star Wars is the history of Anakin Skywalker the chosen one. Luke is simply the catalist for Anakin to return and fulfill the prophecy.
Stop the madness.
@@joaopereira4218 oh yes, that is why OT was about Luke, EU was mostly about Luke. Calm down, man, it was not Anakin's story at the begining :)
@@starwarsnerrrd9470we do have some insight but still it was mostly his raw power not truly his skills with the lightsaber.
Yoda: “I’m the master of the master”
no
yoda : " the master of master, i am"
Obi-wan had to destroy Darth Vader a 4th time to be considered stronger than him or are you doing it on purpose?
he got his sw knowledge from walmart 😂😂
Fr tulak hord should be one
Tulak Hord is literally the best lightsaber duelist to ever exist, taking on a thousand jedi at the same time and WINNING. He never lost a duel wtf🤣
@RealDutchBearcap darth zannah or traya, from the old republic stated that all the existing jedi/sith were like children playing with toys in terms of lightsaber combat compared to the ancients.
@RealDutchBear most of the modern Jedi at that time never seen let alone ever fought a Sith before and were rusty with the thousand years of peace when the old republic Jedi fought Sith literally every single day the Old Jedi were so into battle some of them even forgot the Jedi code it just does not make sense for the modern Jedi to be stronger than the old republic Jedi its like saying a person that works out for 2 times a week would be stronger than someone that workout for 4 times a week
@@XD-ty2xwKreia romanticized the sith of old though.
Yoda was beat by the greatest of his gen a true Jedi plo koon him not being on the list is outrages
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Starkiler is overrated
@@lukeskywalker6528 So does Revan. But Starkiller is great.
@@tahabeyss2005Stop this both Charakters arent overrated People WHO say that era Just toxic man
starkiller slams luke in cannon, no question@@lukeskywalker6528
Did bro actually forgot obi wan kenobi ?
Darth Caedus is on 3, Jaina Solo on 11, but she beat him in a fight and killed him
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HOW IS LUKE THE BEST DUELIST
G.L. stated that Luke was intended to be the greatest force user and duelist who ever lived.
Luke is the best there is. He is *Luke Skywalker*
Legends
Luke is op. Read books
Where is palpatine
Vader easily outduled luke 😂
You clearly have no knowledge of what Luke could do and has done
@@faintfiction5389 shut up
Bro, Vitiate just called you a thousand times ...!!!
Best force users though out the old republic/clone wars/empire/post endor next please lov the shorts keep up it
Why is Yoda so much higher than Sidious?
Honest question
The only issue was because of yoda's age and Sidious tried fleeing from him by trying to jump to higher grounds
@@galenmarek2943 Yeah that makes sense, thanks anyways
Well Yoda mastered all the forms but got complete master over Ataru, while also never lost in a duel spar before + I would say Yoda defeated sidious at ROTS but sidious got lucky and manage to flee
@@darrenlingling1023 not entirely true, because Yoda lost a duel to plo koon
@@ashwindar that's a fake feat lol, came from a Wii game and it's confirmed to not be cannon nor legends so it's not a feat that is considered so Plo koon still featless
Revan is the most powerful Sith only equal to Luke or even more powerful
Mace Windu and Palpatine criminally underrated by you. They would walk all over many of the ones you put ahead of em.
Yes, many of the old Republic era were amazing duellists, better than the prequel era by miles but Mace and Palpatine are timeless
Old republic era siths and jedi: Hold my Beer 🍺🗿
@RealDutchBear ahaha... NO.
@RealDutchBear hmmmm... who could possibly be stronger? the Jedi and Sith who never seen and never fought one before for over a 1000 years (Prequels) or the Jedi and Sith in the old republic that fights each other literally all the time war after war for 5,000 years...... (Old republic)
@RealDutchBear please do some research you might learn something :)
@RealDutchBear and ngl I laughed a little when I read your comment lol
@RealDutchBear the old republic Jedi and Sith clearly scales above most of the modern Jedi and Sith. what ever lore you are listening too makes no sense, that would mean Maul, Dooku, Obi-Wan and all of the other Jedi that got killed by clones could defeat Malgus, Tulak Hord, Revan and Vitiate which would never happen. and I'm pretty sure whatever lore it was was stated before SWTOR and KOTOR. just keep in mind if a lore was made before KOTOR and SWTOR it can be wrong.
Revan finally getting some recognition
Best purple lightsaber user for me
Revan > Mace Windu
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Bro Its duel No force power 💀💀💀💀
Starkiller would be rather weak compared to most people on the list.
Don't get me wrong, he is powerful, but just not THAT powerful and good at duelling.
The games made him look stronger than he is.
Read the Novel of 'The Force Unleashed' and you'll see that he is not nearly as powerful as he is shown in the game
@RealDutchBear Indeed. While Vitiate and Palpatine were rather even and compareable, and other high ranking Sith of the old were very powerful, 90% of all ancient Sith were pathetic and weak.
And even powerful Sith like Sion, Revan, etc. were not that much more powerful thanDooku and Maul (at least, when it comes to lightsaber combat)
Most Sith were easily beaten by Republic troopers and can't compete with the likes of Ventress, Maul and Dooku.
The average Sith/Dark Side User during the time of the Clone Wars was so much more powerful than the average Sith/Dark Side User during the old republic(Those were essentially on Jedi Padawan Level imo)
Obi-two kenobi must be in this top
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@@force_user Kenobi is able to defeat everyone in a duel up to the top 5, and even higher! I don’t understand what Caedus is doing here so high in the top, he’s not even in the top 10! Luke is overrated in every way. Don't make tops without Kenobi, in terms of duel abilities he is higher than Malak, at least!🤔
@@darkknight5335 Mace Windu is so underrated.
@@darkknight5335 kenobi was good but didn't stand a chance against dooku. He beat vader in kenobi series because vader was out of balance with his emotions. It's also stated that anakin was better dualist of the two.
@@samumutka9236 Dooku is as self-confident as Anakin, sure that Kenobi could defeat him, after all, he trained the one who killed him😏
How in the world the most well known and efficient lightsaber duelist Tulak Hord be worse than a Skywalker offspring, who actually almost never had a proper duel in his life?
1.darth bane
2.darth sidious
Bane wasn't a good duelist compared to revan
@@JT-ih2rx orbalisk armour
@@InowroclawianPatriotogism whats that gotta do with dueling?
@@JT-ih2rx now j change my opinion best is tulak hord
@@InowroclawianPatriotogism tulak and revan are close to each other
Great video 🔥🔥
Palpatine mastered all 7 lightsaber forms and is just on 20. He beat Maul + Savage and Windu + 3 other Jedi Masters.
He didnt defeat Windu in dueling. He lost.
Plo koon: hold my blue milk
Dooku was one of the most dangerous duellists bro took on Obi wan in his prime and Anakin in his prime and came close to winning.
Bro how is palpatine 20 he is easily top 5
Edit: in skill
Kenobi
plo koon was a better duelist then yoda according to legends
Satele Shan should be way higher and revan should be 3rd or 2nd Anakin shoudl be first if we’re talking full potential and obi wan too and darth vitvtiate too
The only reason obi beat Anakin was because they fought the same way and style
WBW ANAKIN >>> LUKE “THE OVERSTIMATE” SKYWALKER
Darth Sidious - 21.
Mace windu - 20
Where´s Anakin and Obi-Wan??? They´re much better than other Jedi/Sith on the list
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