@@Nekranon Right, that is why I hate to watch Artrosis, playing. Watching Scan playing seems to be very peaceful. It is like to watch while I am studying
"dear scan. I see you are spending resources really quickly, taking a third before 10 minutes, scouting, and expanding. as a long time Artosis viewer, I know this is not proper strategy." lmfao
0:57 "We're all equal" He's such a nice person. It's also really really nice to hear him explain what he's doing (and thinking) while playing. Such an honor to have him play on your account.
@@TheTrueReiniat putting something in the same box doesn’t mean things magically are now equal. Putting a laptop charger in a laptop bag doesn’t make it as expensive as the laptop.
7:13, 10:35 show the difference in mentality between Artosis and scan. Artosis is preoccupied with defending against what the Protoss might be doing. Scan gets mines out on the map to monitor for aggression and then looks for ways to get an edge. He kills that first observer and takes a nice greedy third.
I remember me being too timid and turtly. And then you get better and more comfortable, take more risks, get punished, learn from it and take more but lesser risks. Not a good player yet though, but getting better.
@@houndofzeus I think thats what makes the game so intimidating for newcomers, and to be fair it's entirely blizzards fault for not designing the campaign to encourage early attacking and quick expansion
@@beachbum111111Also the campaigns don't really teach anything about wearing down your opponent and taking cost effective engagements since the ai has infinite resources. Same goes for Warcraft
It's funny seeing Scan handling those successive recall like a toddler's play, and thinking that Artosis would be totally wrecked having his morale downs to the bottom of the pit.
I now remember the clip of Artosis screaming: "May be 9 turrets!? May be 9 turrets I should have made!!" And here's scan styling with 10 turrets in the main alone
@@Mrstealurgrill yeah but he killed the arbiter instead of the arbiter just leaving, and that recall was basically useless and defended that spot with a third of his entire army so he could counterattack next time and putting twice the amount of cannons in that area to prevent another recall. Also after putting more cannon he left in that area a wraith and a science vessel in case he needed more fire power
@@Mrstealurgrill Because the turrets are not supposed to stop the recall. Their purpose is to corner the arbiters and prevent them from recalling too deep inside the base.
@@EfeMayuscula "Scan, I'm here to offer some tips. I notice you are spending resources really quickly, taking a third before 10 minutes, scouting, and expanding. As a longtime Artosis viewer, I know this is not proper strategy. You should take some lessons from Turtle-tosis."
@@LtBlue14 Oooh I bet that comment hurt his soul because chat have been telling that to him but he is to stubborn to adapt and improvise, he plays too defensive allowing his opponents to take advantage of that That attack at 8:57 is something Artosis would've never done Artosis is good mechanically but he is too mechanical and predictable
@@FANOFWAR34 The higher the level is, the weaker Protoss is in comparisson with other races. Meaning, the more multitasking there is, the worse for protoss players.
Omg this was insane!!! Scan makes it look so easy. Arty we need more of such content where Scan plays (maybe on his own account), and you analyze the game.
Arty's channel is where I watch most of Brood War these days. And watching Scan be absolutely chill this whole game is just weird, man. Like that Batman TAS episode where Superman's wearing his suit and he smiles and it just feels wrong. I didn't know Starcraft ladder could be fun!
I've played SC BW since abt. 1999 non-competitively - this was pure Starcraft porn. What an amazing level of concentration and map/situational awareness. This might be a bit of a stretch - but with this culture and no BS it's no wonder South Koreans are now producing some of the best passenger cars globally. Well done, greetings from Latvia.
"Hey Artosis, new player here. Just a question, why does Scan have so many bases? Doesn't he know that if he gets a third base before 16 minutes that the Protoss will win? Also, I'm noticing that he doesn't spend half of his APM microing vultures in the middle of the map to do nothing. Does he just not know that strategy? Lastly, he's winning the game. I was under the impression that the matchup is impossible, could you explain? Thanks Arty!" I completely lost it at that one rofl. @23:00
The fact that he's able to just sit down and actually use Art's keyboard and mouse etc so well is insane...It also says a lot about why Arty loses when he's like "I'm so confused by what you're doing" when Scan just played normally.
scans reflexes are really good, its amazing how many areas he can keep up with multi tasking, thanks scan for giving some good tips with terran. thanks artosis!
@@vOddy75 Storm and Stasis are the easiest AoE (Like Dark Swarm) spells to pull off. Stim, Mines, Matrix, Iraddiate, Lockdown, Yamato, etc need intensive micro and targeting. I tried to play protoss seriously a couple days ago for the first time with my Korean friend who always kicks my ass and I almost beat him in every match, even he was surpised. Protoss is an easy race.
@@renzoalarcon8172 Now you're moving the goalpost from "having abilities that need to be used properly in order to win" to "having easier abilities that need to be used in order to win" People who complain about Protoss reveal that they aren't very good, because Protoss is only better than Terran at low skill levels
@@vOddy75 Don't you think the easier an ability is to cast, the easier it is to use them properly? All ASL winrates are dominated by Zergs and Protosses except for Flash. What does that tell you? Flash himself has said that StarCraft would be dominated by Zergs and Protosses if it wasn't for him innovating new strats, but Terran is saturated, there is nothing new to invent while even now Protoss and Zergs create new powerful builds. I'm not just saying this, Korean progamers are.
eh quick 3rds are pretty risky. It worked out this game. But let's say he does this 100 times, I don't think it works that often. This toss was bad. He just got really lucky with cross spawn nexus first. Everything else, toss did was bad.
So that recall isn't quite such garbage and a bait for protoss to throw away massive amounts of resources, recall only needs to have been activated in time. It is not cancelled by losing the energy (and shields) of the Arbiter AFTER activation. The ability (Recall) has a delay before the units will be pulled, and the Arbiter does not have to be above ground onto which units may be recalled when it is activated, just when the ability finishes (some brief delay over 1 second, about 2 I think). I think it's about a 1 second for the wormhole effect at the point targetted for pulling units from (entry), followed by about a 1 second delay for the place for them to be plopped out at (exit). The EMP hits before the second wormhole starts but surely after the ability was actually activated and during or after the entry wormhole would be animating. If the protoss see a science vessel close, they can probably knee-jerk activate it then and hope the Arbiter is above droppable ground in the right timing in order to avoid recall being prevented by EMP removing energy.
I wonder what the opponent was thinking. "Heh..Its Artosis. I will just go 3-4 Nexus arbiter recall or max supply all in. I will just face some random marines on the mid....wait....WTF?! Since when is Artosis this Good?
I missed why Scan plays on Arty's account? To show off against the MMR hell? Turns out S rank pros can beat B rank toss... (also, where can I watch Scan stream, this was so fun to watch)
@@tunneltu I took a look but he spoke korean there and was quite serious, not as relaxed as here. Also his UA-cam is dead for at least a year... But thanks
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Scan needs to up his rage levels to role play this account
Scan being all zen is the reason he moves so fluidly, while Artosis's rage makes him all rigid.
Scan is gosu because he can contain his rage, unllike Artosis, destined to be only a succesfuld streamer, but never gosu.
@@Nekranon Right, that is why I hate to watch Artrosis, playing. Watching Scan playing seems to be very peaceful. It is like to watch while I am studying
Lol 😂
"dear scan. I see you are spending resources really quickly, taking a third before 10 minutes, scouting, and expanding. as a long time Artosis viewer, I know this is not proper strategy." lmfao
Turtletosis xD
LOL that was gold
timestamp?
@@ethansaltmere 13:29
@@davidawesome4569 thanks!
0:57 "We're all equal"
He's such a nice person. It's also really really nice to hear him explain what he's doing (and thinking) while playing. Such an honor to have him play on your account.
But nobody is actually equal. You're not even equal to yourself last year.
@@skillfuldabest
We are not equal, that's why evolution can exist.
@@skillfuldabest he doesnt mean it that way, you know what they say, at the end of the game the king and the pawn go in the same box.
@@TheTrueReiniat putting something in the same box doesn’t mean things magically are now equal. Putting a laptop charger in a laptop bag doesn’t make it as expensive as the laptop.
We are all equal. But some are more equal than others.
- George Orwell
Scan is the man.
EVEN FLASH
I read this with raynor's voice lmao
@@mackparker9064 ,,I AM THE MAN"
7:13, 10:35 show the difference in mentality between Artosis and scan. Artosis is preoccupied with defending against what the Protoss might be doing. Scan gets mines out on the map to monitor for aggression and then looks for ways to get an edge. He kills that first observer and takes a nice greedy third.
And then when you point this out to Arty he just rages about how unfair it is his opponent gets to flip coins.
I remember me being too timid and turtly. And then you get better and more comfortable, take more risks, get punished, learn from it and take more but lesser risks. Not a good player yet though, but getting better.
@@HrHaakon ya the single player campaign basically teaches you to turtle. Against real players you have to learn how to do damage and expand greedily
@@houndofzeus I think thats what makes the game so intimidating for newcomers, and to be fair it's entirely blizzards fault for not designing the campaign to encourage early attacking and quick expansion
@@beachbum111111Also the campaigns don't really teach anything about wearing down your opponent and taking cost effective engagements since the ai has infinite resources. Same goes for Warcraft
It's funny seeing Scan handling those successive recall like a toddler's play, and thinking that Artosis would be totally wrecked having his morale downs to the bottom of the pit.
"even flash loses to this"
Flash wouldve just played better than Flash
ezzzz
Is there anything Flash can't do
@@milotnuis Wins as random
Would of*
@@Yonny316 is this for real lmfao
I now remember the clip of Artosis screaming: "May be 9 turrets!? May be 9 turrets I should have made!!"
And here's scan styling with 10 turrets in the main alone
10 turrets and a vessel yet recall makes it in anyways
@@Mrstealurgrill yeah but he killed the arbiter instead of the arbiter just leaving, and that recall was basically useless and defended that spot with a third of his entire army so he could counterattack next time and putting twice the amount of cannons in that area to prevent another recall.
Also after putting more cannon he left in that area a wraith and a science vessel in case he needed more fire power
@@Mrstealurgrill Because the turrets are not supposed to stop the recall. Their purpose is to corner the arbiters and prevent them from recalling too deep inside the base.
@@minhbeo If you want to kill the arbiter before recall, you need 12 wraiths on top of it when it's an expansion away
@@sethiddings7293 Or just put a few turrent spread out to detect the recall sooner and have mines planted around.
Ah Scan obliterating Protoss while Arty obliterates a burrito how the turn tables.
That High Templar "Drop" at the end was very cute
18:40 that emp OMFG that was a nut shot to the protoss
Yeah that's nasty. Didn't notice that one. He had some sick EMP's this game. Split second away from getting that second arbiter as well.
13:23 that donation comment was pretty funny
can you translate please?
@@EfeMayuscula "Scan, I'm here to offer some tips. I notice you are spending resources really quickly, taking a third before 10 minutes, scouting, and expanding. As a longtime Artosis viewer, I know this is not proper strategy. You should take some lessons from Turtle-tosis."
@@LtBlue14 Oooh I bet that comment hurt his soul
because chat have been telling that to him but he is to stubborn to adapt and improvise, he plays too defensive allowing his opponents to take advantage of that
That attack at 8:57 is something Artosis would've never done
Artosis is good mechanically but he is too mechanical and predictable
@@kevinsantos5050 Artosis does do attacks like that sometimes, but when he does it he loses all his vultures and kills one probe
Wow, a pro is just at a completely different level, even without the rage. I actually feel bad for his opponent xD
Protoss deserve this.
Yeah, exactly. I like Artosis, he's a great commentator, but he just does not have what it takes to be at pro level.
@@vladimirgregor Artosis seems like a good player, but he is raging TOO MUCH.
@@ThisNameIsBanned is toss considered most op by the community or is it terran? i see people saying mixed things
@@FANOFWAR34 The higher the level is, the weaker Protoss is in comparisson with other races. Meaning, the more multitasking there is, the worse for protoss players.
its refreshing to see Artosis actually control not only 3 depot building scvs and factories but also his army
Scan is the one playing
How many turrets should be placed on the base to protect from recalls?
Scan: Yes
Jesus christ it's like watching an MMA fighter vs a toddler.
I know right? Scan fucking wrecked him.
This is why physical sports have weight classes, and online sports have tiers.
Scan just did whatever he wanted. No sweat on recalls, attack on the third, just business as usual.
The title made me hope that Scan started playing Artosis’ account without him knowing haha
XD Artosis goes to the bathroom.
Scan: Now's my chance!
Omg this was insane!!! Scan makes it look so easy. Arty we need more of such content where Scan plays (maybe on his own account), and you analyze the game.
Scan is such nice guy. Calm, helpfull, humble and always in friendly mood.
Arty's channel is where I watch most of Brood War these days. And watching Scan be absolutely chill this whole game is just weird, man. Like that Batman TAS episode where Superman's wearing his suit and he smiles and it just feels wrong. I didn't know Starcraft ladder could be fun!
I've played SC BW since abt. 1999 non-competitively - this was pure Starcraft porn. What an amazing level of concentration and map/situational awareness. This might be a bit of a stretch - but with this culture and no BS it's no wonder South Koreans are now producing some of the best passenger cars globally. Well done, greetings from Latvia.
Scan's decision making, situation awareness and macro is so smooth
wow
non-complaining
made it look easy
wow
"yes, protoss is OP"
I love these Scan collabs..
Next, Artosis play on Scan's account so he can have a taste of playing "standard" with top players
Skipped to the end and Scan really confirmed it, boys. PROTOSS IS OP
Arty calls his big bro to wreck the bullies on ladder.
The difference is huge, I love it, SCAN THE MAN!
"Hey Artosis, new player here. Just a question, why does Scan have so many bases? Doesn't he know that if he gets a third base before 16 minutes that the Protoss will win? Also, I'm noticing that he doesn't spend half of his APM microing vultures in the middle of the map to do nothing. Does he just not know that strategy? Lastly, he's winning the game. I was under the impression that the matchup is impossible, could you explain? Thanks Arty!"
I completely lost it at that one rofl. @23:00
I think it's always good to have a third base as soon as possible, to get minerals and gas faster
Artosis: The way you played this game is so confusing to me
Scan: how did I play?
Artosis: well...
The fact that he's able to just sit down and actually use Art's keyboard and mouse etc so well is insane...It also says a lot about why Arty loses when he's like "I'm so confused by what you're doing" when Scan just played normally.
Scan: Look at my supply count! 103 at ten minutes.
Arti: Is that good?
Scan: Yes - very good
XD
Scan's pace and accuracy with his mouse movements is crazy, especially if you've just watched Artosis before lol
11:45 Artosis really out here calling other players apes when he can barely contain his primal nerd rage
Scan really seems like a genuine nice guy :) great content
is this how arty reached 2500?
Damn. I wish I had 1% of his skills against protoss :p
Then you’d be as good as Arty.
Jk Arty!
when big brother says hey let me try
scans reflexes are really good, its amazing how many areas he can keep up with multi tasking, thanks scan for giving some good tips with terran. thanks artosis!
11:50 imagine how Artosis would be raging in such situation
SCANTOSIS!? Scan is like a Sniper, and Arty is his spotter.
No i said ello, but that's close enough.
12:56 YOU MAKE A THIRD ARTOSIS! Every game you turtle on two base, i think arbiters gave you serious PTSD..
Scan* make a third
Just practice for another 20 years Artooooosiiiissss. Someday you'll get there ARTOSIIIIIIIIIIIS
I just love these collabs, man
It looks like if you can macro and are not allergic to taking bases, terran is a 1a2a3a4a race too.
The difference is all Terran units have abilities save the goliath that need to be used properly in order to win.
@@renzoalarcon8172 Like a decent Terran can be beaten in the lategame without storm or stasis lol
@@vOddy75 Storm and Stasis are the easiest AoE (Like Dark Swarm) spells to pull off. Stim, Mines, Matrix, Iraddiate, Lockdown, Yamato, etc need intensive micro and targeting. I tried to play protoss seriously a couple days ago for the first time with my Korean friend who always kicks my ass and I almost beat him in every match, even he was surpised. Protoss is an easy race.
@@renzoalarcon8172 Now you're moving the goalpost from "having abilities that need to be used properly in order to win" to "having easier abilities that need to be used in order to win"
People who complain about Protoss reveal that they aren't very good, because Protoss is only better than Terran at low skill levels
@@vOddy75 Don't you think the easier an ability is to cast, the easier it is to use them properly?
All ASL winrates are dominated by Zergs and Protosses except for Flash. What does that tell you? Flash himself has said that StarCraft would be dominated by Zergs and Protosses if it wasn't for him innovating new strats, but Terran is saturated, there is nothing new to invent while even now Protoss and Zergs create new powerful builds. I'm not just saying this, Korean progamers are.
You know toss is in big trouble when arbiter harras by actually attacking the scv
Lol
Too smooth too easy. That's a pro for you. On a level of their own.
Scan: Wins on Artosis account
Artosis: excuse me
Scan: No
Sorry Artosis but Scan's play was just amazing, like WOW!
Well Scan is an actual pro. Cant compare lol
cardinal directions in artosis' prison world:
left, right, north, south.
I'm sure Arty would've lost this game easily, i mean... Artosis would've most likely sat on 2 bases, while the Protoss took 8
eh quick 3rds are pretty risky. It worked out this game. But let's say he does this 100 times, I don't think it works that often. This toss was bad. He just got really lucky with cross spawn nexus first. Everything else, toss did was bad.
when u make protoss recall just to protect his base, u basically already won the game
monstrous playing there!
Boosted
Scan… we are not all equally smart….
art and scan completely different emotional ly
So that recall isn't quite such garbage and a bait for protoss to throw away massive amounts of resources, recall only needs to have been activated in time. It is not cancelled by losing the energy (and shields) of the Arbiter AFTER activation. The ability (Recall) has a delay before the units will be pulled, and the Arbiter does not have to be above ground onto which units may be recalled when it is activated, just when the ability finishes (some brief delay over 1 second, about 2 I think).
I think it's about a 1 second for the wormhole effect at the point targetted for pulling units from (entry), followed by about a 1 second delay for the place for them to be plopped out at (exit).
The EMP hits before the second wormhole starts but surely after the ability was actually activated and during or after the entry wormhole would be animating.
If the protoss see a science vessel close, they can probably knee-jerk activate it then and hope the Arbiter is above droppable ground in the right timing in order to avoid recall being prevented by EMP removing energy.
#
SCANTOSIS
I bet the toss was like "Oh ya, of course this 2100 mmr guy plays like a fucking pro!"
I like streams, when they are together. :)
now that Snow is back you need to have Scan back on
This is how a Terran is supposed to play. Learn from it Arty
5:20 FLASH WOULD HAVE LOST LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The Protoss was pretty solid for holding out as long as he did against someone of Scans level.
I wonder what the opponent was thinking.
"Heh..Its Artosis. I will just go 3-4 Nexus arbiter recall or max supply all in. I will just face some random marines on the mid....wait....WTF?! Since when is Artosis this Good?
What happened at 14:57 ???? Scan hits the EMP, even clicks on the arb to see it has 0/150 energy, then recall goes off anyway?
He recalled before the epm hit, but recall is like a vortex that is on the place you recall from for some seconds...
protoss cast recall while arbiter was flying over terrain, so recall completes even after EMP
the level of Scan here is so of the charts. its just mind boggling that this Pro is just casualy 1a2a3a into victory
Damn it Scan, now people will think Protoss is underpowered.
that perfect balance of being so nice and insightful mixed with trolling RT
This is incredible to watch
Ive literally never seen Artosis go past 2 base and hes confused why he can't do that
Thanks for sharing this. Great game!
flash is really a genius terran player
"I'm not that smart, we're all equal." yeah......no
fking artosis stuffing his face in the back and nodding yes ....LMFAO!!!!
This is amazing! P.S when will we be able to see ASL s11 finals??!?!
The flash LUL ASCII just gets me every fucking time lmfao
I missed why Scan plays on Arty's account? To show off against the MMR hell? Turns out S rank pros can beat B rank toss...
(also, where can I watch Scan stream, this was so fun to watch)
On twitch: www.twitch.tv/skryoo1004?sr=a
www.twitch.tv/skryoo1004
@@tunneltu I took a look but he spoke korean there and was quite serious, not as relaxed as here. Also his UA-cam is dead for at least a year... But thanks
@@csucskos he speaks both English and Korean during his streams, and interacts with chat once in a while
Honestly after watching this Artosis stands no chance in the higher ranks. Scan played 5x better at least amazing
The difference really is huge.
Come on Scan. You are playing on Artosis account. Where's rage?
this match was so funny. hahahaha
It's Arty's hand on the mouse btw.
2:56 no
LOVE SCAN
Scan starts building a 3rd base at 11 mins. Pay attention Arty
Proven why he is one of the best
if only Artosis could do something similar to this :) he could start by taking that 3rd at 8/9 min
OMG Just realized: Did Valks get his Artosis ID back? How did this happen?
This guy plays Brood War like its SC2!
This game ended 10 minutes before the end of this video...
Left right, north south
The biggest mistake that Protoss made was attacking the same place twice. He should have attacked another location the second time. 15:19
Scan is a legend!
Flash would have lost this game
we love scan
That observer snipe.
18:37 Now we learn something today Artosis, Unsiege tanks with vultures destroy mass zealots. ;D
yes unsieged, but the emp was the key there i think
Flash would not have been supply blocked at 192.
how is he making control groups of units without pressing control + the number?
wow that guy didn't have a chance
Flash wouldnt of let scan play for him