In making this scene one of the paratroopers was blown a couple miles off course and was stuck in the middle of the town being held at gun point for a few hours convincing the towns people he was part of a movie and not a real paratrooper
-Sir, the Americans are counterattacking! We can't hold them off! -Dammit! Where are our RPGs? Where is the ammo for the machine guns?! -Uh, we used up most of it shooting up that high school earlier.
Two things about this scene, the Russian officer, with the blue beret and waving a pistol, is the film's military advisor, Fred Rexer. He is a former US Army Special Forces member who also advised for Apocalypse Now. Second, when filming this scene, several of the paratroopers got blown way off course. One landed in a tree. It caused a scare with the locals as the paratrooper tried to convince them he wasn't a real Russian soldier.
William Smith played the Spetznaz officer who shows up later in the movie to take out the Wolverines. He was an actual Air Force intelligence operative who spoke multiple languages and did "stuff" during the Cold War.
Judging from how the VDV landing in Ukraine went, that's totally believable. The getting blown off course and landing in a tree part probably convinced the civilians it must've been real.
All these comments about "who would attack a school" and no one paying any respects to the first victim of World War III: Mr. Teasdale. RIP Mr. Teasdale.
You know what I really love with this movie? They didn’t waste your time. They didn’t take 30 or 40 minutes setting up the events, they give you the basic/essential knowledge you need of the characters in the first 10 minutes and then you see the Russians invade
Actually, even less than that! I had the luxury of purchasing a DVD of this movie and the 2012 remake for $5 recently, and I watched the timemark from the start of the movie (including opening credits and logos) to the first sighting of the paratroopers. The history professor drifts off from his lecture to wonder what's going on outside almost exactly at the 5 minute mark. Keep in mind that's not even 5 minutes of characterization because at least 2 of those minutes were just logos and opening credits. All they needed was a 2 minute discussion about football and a 1 minute lecture about Ghengis Khan to get you invested in the characters.
@@queterian1526doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to that conclusion. Of course that’s what he thought, he even commented on how they were way of course, meaning they shouldn’t be landing there if they are training.
“Sir, what should we do with our limited supply of anti-tank weapons?” “Blow that wooden high school door up, then destroy the empty bus.” EDIT: turns out this is an accurate depiction of Russian military competence.
"Listen here comrades, as an inavsive force we should get unlimited supplies so the first things i want you to do is to magdump thoose evil capitalist windows" "Vasily don't forget to use an rpg on the capitalist doors, since as an airdropped force we have sooo much anti tank capabilities"
@Dillon Duncan Not so much the balls but the inability to get a sizable enough force across either the Atlantic or Pacific without being seen and destroyed first.
Haven't seen the film yet but why the hell would they want to kill schoolteachers or children? Even if the school had some strategic advantage geographically, why need to kill the faculty? Trained military personnel wouldn't kill children man (unless ordered).
@@17MrLeon I believe both Soviet and Murikan soldiers knew that a war is best off to be avoided. Soviets were actually sweating bullets during both Cuban crisis and the shooting down of some plane that they thought was intruding their territory in the 80s. No soldier would want to kill unarmed civilians.
I was in 10th grade when this movie came out. Us "Cold War Kids" knew 38 years ago that the events depicted in the movie were not completely outlandish. But I never would have thought in 2022 that Russia would mount a full-scale invasion of a neighboring country.
DrScaphandre it's just a movie but far as what is seen and depending on politics. For one shooting and killing non-combatants, and if this was a surprise attack without a declaration of war it is also a war crime.
I love this movie. However I do not understand the strategic value in conducting a massive airborne invasion of a rural town. Those slow moving troop transport planes would have had to penetrate hundreds or thousands of miles into the interior while avoiding layers of air defense the whole way.
+Bobby Ricigliano As the Powers Boothe character says in the film: "First wave of the attack came in disguised as commercial charter flights same way they did in Afghanistan in '80. Only they were crack Airborne outfits.." That's how. No troop transport planes.
+Robert Paulsen it would be cool if they did what world in combat did. Yes I know this movie is older that WIC but having Soviets invade America through transport ships like that was a cool idea and seeing that in a movie woulda been better
"the strategic value in conducting a massive airborne invasion of a rural town" According to Tanner, the strategic value wasn't the town itself, it was to secure the key passes running through the Rocky Mountains in preparation for the main invasion.
I think if there was one thing I could tell John Milius, it's that the most unrealistic part of this movie is that these kids are getting such a thorough and professional history education in the midwest in the 80s.
Hey fool study communist infiltration from the Spanish civil war forward the the schools and local govt the first target....were you always stupid or are you a big city public school graduate
@Thomas Kelly Yeah, although the anti-Franco militias were immediately targeting universities and not rural schools. This school has no real strategic importance. Other than detaining the staff for leverage and information on the immediate community. By firing on civilians they undermined their position, granted this drama as entertainment.
Watching this movie in the past: “There’s no way invading Russian soldiers could be *that* incompetent.” Watching this movie today: “Yeah they got it pretty much right.”
The only difference would be it will be the Chinese doing it instead. In this new cold war, it will be China instead of the ussr as between them China has plowed ahead technogically and economically
Well, the Soviets were back then in Afghanistan, and the US were busy funding mujahedin who would later become Taliban... makes sense to make anti-commie propaganda.
"Comrade, these Americans build their airfields in very strange way." "Ah, comrade. You are tricked by Yankee psyops. They make it look like civilian target." "I see now, comrade, it is made very well. The GI's even look like children!" "Yes, yes. Good thing they are not. They're gathering by the window, fire!"
@@gerogegerog5926 Officer : "errr comrades i think we dropped off into a civillian school" *Sees a butt ton of school shooters* "ANUU BLYAT THE AMERICANS HAVE USED GUERILLA TACTICS ON US" *Tactical retreat achieved*
They ran past them because killing civilians was not the objective, it was to secure the landing site. Panicked civilians posed little to no threat. The ones that did shoot were in panic mode.
Seriously if I was their superior officer i would reem out those guys after that shit was over with. They are running around like a bunch of maniacs with no regard to their limited resources or their exposed positions. Gunning down civilians with no provocation, totally unprofessional conduct for what should be one of the best divisions in the world. Russian paratroopers to this day are well respected and highly regarded as one of the best trained and displined forces in the world. I don't have a lick of military training, I'm some fat kid who plays too much video games. And yeah it's a movie, but LOL you can't deny these paratroopers fucked up royally here.
For everyone that's criticizing the Soviet troops' massacre of an innocent civilian high school, just remember that this movie was made during the Cold War. So of course the Russians are gonna be depicted as savages and ruthless monsters. It's totally intentional that they're portrayed that way for propaganda purposes
Matt Brown Actually it makes complete sense for them to shoot up the Highschool seeing as how the teacher approached them and was shot and since they were all scared and unorganized they beleive they were being attacjed so they opened fire. It isnt at all unreasonable for this to happen seeing as how Soviet Propaganda depicted Americans as killers and savages. As well as the fact that in Red Dawn NATO is disbanded and no one follows geneva protocol and China is on the verge of Nuclear Holocaust.
Matt Brown it'd make it way more believable and compelling if one of the Russian officers was desperately trying to get things back under control to no avail.
***** All of my comments as of now have been directed to you, slick. If you paid any attention to my earlier comments, I stated t Couchpotato is right, the movie was made like that for a reason. I did accidently reply to him instead of you in my second comment, but it was clearly directed to you, slick. Also, you don't seem to provide any reasons or justfications as to why all soviets are "evil and dim whited". What, let me guess, a Russian kid bullied you at school? Great reasoning, slick
The piece of shit is the right name to your propaganda bro. I can name military operations, resulting in mass-murder of civilians: - Babi Yar massacre (33.000 jews) and Rumbula massacre (25.000 jews) by Einsatzgruppen (German Nazi) - Dresden massacre (20.000-140.000 citisens) and Hamburg (42.000) by RAF and USAF - Nanking massacre (40.000-300.000) by Japanese Imperial Army - Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (129.000-226.000) by USAF Now, what are the mass-murders Stalin is so famous for? Your facts, please? Preferably, the documented ones?
I was inspired to some day use it if I ever became a teacher and taught about the Mongols...well I teach about the Mongols every year, and shed a little tear for Mr. Teasdale...RIP
@Cheese yes, watch it again where he is talking about the Mongols as the clip starts with a picture of Genghis Khan among other mentioning's of the Khan and Mongols.
Such an iconic scene which was etched into my memory as a child when I first saw the movie, and it still carries that same weight for me now 30+ years later.
There's a sort of grounded realism in how this was shot that, for me, makes it more chilling. More recent movies are so overdone visually that nothing feels real. This one looks like you are there and this is happening. A lot of movies from this period had that lived-in, real-world look to them.
Coda Mission They landed all over the town. They capture the town to secure key passages through the rockies which could be used as an american counter attack
Random Nerd Remembre when 'merica came to germany, my proud homecountrie, and bombed Kassel, Darmstadt, Pforzheim, Dresden, Hamburg during the second WW? Urban bombing to frighten the german people... Merica actually did this, compared to a fictional movie where some russians are attacking a highschool
@@mingusog7036 you dont seem to understand what these comments were about. it wasnt about who started ww2, it was a discussion about killing civilians without a strategic intention
Fun fact: the teacher was also in National Lampoon's Vacation as one of the Walley World security guards. He even says the same thing "What's going on here?" when Clark pulls the gun on John Candy.
"Sir should we shoot at the fleeing truck with our rifles?" "Nyet! use anti-tank launcher!" "We missed!" "Darn, oh well no one else shoot at them they got away fair and square!"
Winter camo, blowing up empty school busses, landing in a random rural town, and killing civilians for no reason. Yeah, the "big red monster" that we had to be afraid of uses the same tactical strategy as the Taliban and the stormtroopers from Star Wars.
The Interesting Nobody They land all over the town and they capture the town to secure key passages through the rockies to prevent an american counter attack and set up supply lines they attack because the school teacher spooked them when he approached the soldier and was shot so they thought they were getting attacked and reacted.
That field behind the school looks like an excellent staging area for more airborne troops. Securing a landing zone involved eliminating all hostile or potentially hostile forces. As for the winter camo, they are landing in Colorado. I am sure that whatever info they had said something about mountains and snow.
I love how Swayze really lets us feel the humanity in Jed. Yes, he is a strong, sometimes too merciless leader, but his heart always shines out in the end. He cares so much, but he's wrestling a tiger.
@@crabtrap Not really. It was pretty much certain that any direct conflict with the USSR would be nuclear. This is why they constantly engaged in proxy wars with eachother - neither side wanted to throw a direct punch because they knew it would end the world.
@@Colddirector im not sure what transgender professor told you that...but it is not factually accurate in any way. There was much concern of a coventional conflict in 70-80s because it conserved the US resources for the USSR. A nuke conflict would not have provided any benefit to either power becuase of nuke contamination. Invasion over the bearing straight was/is a constant US concern and to a lesser extent from cuba....esentually a pincher manuver from north and south. So the concept of 'Red Dawn' was very reasonable/plausible for the time.
@@crabtrap Nowadays, very implausible because the the US has a heavy defense network and it had only been building since after WW2 from the threat of invasion. We literally monitor worldwide flights and would've had foresight to properly prepare. Also, I'm pretty sure Nukes are a viable tactic, since it literally vaporizes entire cities. Then again nukes aren't viable right? Just ask the entire world how many nukes are in their arsenal and for what reason they have them. Then ask why US nuked Japan, because it sure wasn't viable at all? Then there's pincer attack which doesn't make sense because it's in the middle of the country and south, those forces would've been overwhelmed. One last point how implausible it is the population, during the cold war there were 2-5 million russian combat ready units, but also the US have 3 million, but the Russians had no viable aircraft carriers to transport all those troops, men, and hold back nato from launching attacks, China at the time was building up its infrastructure, but again the US control the seas with the most aircraft and ships ready to deploy. I can't forget about friendly neighborhood canadians now. It's like saying WW2 Germany invading, the UK, its just not viable and it didn't break the Uk into submission from bombings.
back in high school this was like every kids dream. to defend their town from the red menace with their friends. we would set up fort in the woods with pellet guns and pretend to be wolverines. no propaganda like entertaining propaganda.
Zarcon I thought I was the only one. After seeing this movie I just prayed that we would get invaded by Russia so I could run to the mountains and save my town.
Let's open that door. Shoots rpg at it. Let's turn the lights on in the hallway. Shoots rpg at it. Let's refresh ourselves with a cool drink from that water fountain. Shoots rpg at it.
I know that, but it was "No Russian" as in 'no russian language' not 'no russian people'. They were engaged in a false flag op, and to sell it they spoke only in english and not russian. Sorry, I'm a semantics nazi.
every morning in school my first period teacher always opens the blinds for a couple seconds and says that hes making sure the russians arent attacking, its so funny and he says its cuz when this movie first came out he was in high school and it scared him so much
@@Seriona1 They barely had paratrooper corps in ww2, they used most of them up in the beginning cuz Stalin was crazy in his general killing phase. They had plenty of training before the war though but never got use it lol.
@@nickirmen6671 Soviet Paratroopers were used in WWII. In the early days during the German invasion and later when it was decided to reform them, the last use of them in WWII was in Manchuria.
"In the early days of World War III, guerrillas, mostly children, placed their names of their loss upon this rock. They fought here alone and gave up their lives, so that this nation shall not perish from this earth."
For everyone new here: -The Soviets attacked the high school because they wanted to place there troops where the least amount of american soldiers were. Washington D.C. was nuked. -The Soviets managed to invade the mid west by sneaking in as passenger jets -The Soviet Union went to war against China after they found out China's involvement in the Soviet-Afghan war. They also invaded all of europe except for Spain and Britain. Then they turned against the U.S. aswell. Check out What if 'Red Dawn' had actually occured? On AlternateHistoryHub for more details
My history teacher showed us this movie in 9th grade and told us it actually happened. Never expected much from our high school history program ever since.
It does look stupid to pantie wasted girly boys who live out their pathetic little lives in video games and try and decide if they want to be a boy or a girl while their busy setting up their next tiktok short. About half the American population from 13 to 30 need to spend a month living in the country side of Afghanistan so they can realize the pathetic little self important dream world of their phones and computers and video games is NOT how the real world works. It's just their pampered and paid for free life they can enjoy because so many before them bought that freedom with their blood and life. The bill comes due .......
I really like this movie, but I serious,y doubt the Soviets would allow their troops to kill civilians. Hey, the Soviets weren't evil creatures guys, their troops had families too.
A history teacher going down in history as the first person lost in this conflict seems a little ironic. It's like a chemistry teacher who cooks meth with a former student and who's brother inlaw is a DEA agent.
@@jemperdiller Yes, bad for the capitalists controlling the media and education system. They put all their efforts in demonizing the one thing that could endanger them.
Before the invasion of Ukraine: "ok I get they are the bad guys and supposed to be bad and incompetant but why would they waste munitions on a school" After Ukraine: "they only wasted one RPG round on that door?"
The only way I can imagine why these Paratroopers are using up ammo and resources on civilians like this is if they were told to assume every American has a gun. Which isn't a wrong assumption considering the invasion and invading target, but youd think with that in mind they would also be abit wiser to how they handle the occupation as well.
@@smolphoenix8942 Urban combat requires the clearing of rooms and what not. Though the shelling and what not is deliberately seeking civilian causalities. Also, its right next door to Russia. You realize how dangerous and not within a good supply line paratroopers are right? Its still rather wasteful and dangerous. Even if it is accurate, it only cements how doomed their invasion is. It's easier to invade somewhere you border just on the logistics side of things.
So everyone’s asking “Why would the Russians attack a rural high school?” Well the answer is pretty simple. The town was a rural but it had 3 strategic places that we know of. It has an airfield, the school, and the town itself. We can assume this town also has a lot of roads, bridges or even highways leading in and out(Kind of like Gettysburg or Bastogne which makes it ideal for troop movements or tanks). This would be perfect for launching further attacks on towns surrounding it or moving troops out/through the Rockies. And since the school was likely along one of these roads taking it was vital to taking the town. If they didn’t take it then US forces could occupy/fortify the school and control one of the roads. It also could have been a goal to capture as many young men and women such as students in case they were to launch rebellions. This of course is exactly what happens and the Russians predicted it because each of the kids were unaccounted for by the KGB and were wanted.
Russian Officer: "Attack that high school!"
Russian Sergeant: "But Comrade, they out-gun us!"
Chad Stallings nooo, i was scrolling up and i realized what this means.
That's if North Korea attacked
I don’t please help
Danny Gonzalez because American high schools keep getting shot up so he’s saying there are more guns at the school then the troops had
And then World War III ended in a week
In making this scene one of the paratroopers was blown a couple miles off course and was stuck in the middle of the town being held at gun point for a few hours convincing the towns people he was part of a movie and not a real paratrooper
I read that damn that poor guy but shows you how ramped up the Cold War was
Do you have a news article on this? I'd love to read it.
They built a fake Russian tank, but it looked so realistic the FBI showed up on set demanding to know how they'd got it.
Michael Martin CIA***
@Reunite The British Empire
I'm the one who asked..
-Sir, the Americans are counterattacking! We can't hold them off!
-Dammit! Where are our RPGs? Where is the ammo for the machine guns?!
-Uh, we used up most of it shooting up that high school earlier.
USSR
Why the hell would they do it when it is so much better to eat them alive instead! :D
TEXAStooTAL L and thus died the only black man in the history of Colorado
Arthur Rubio hahaha!!!
Arthur Rubio that racists killing a black man, KGB and Cubans have have no respect
Two things about this scene, the Russian officer, with the blue beret and waving a pistol, is the film's military advisor, Fred Rexer. He is a former US Army Special Forces member who also advised for Apocalypse Now.
Second, when filming this scene, several of the paratroopers got blown way off course. One landed in a tree. It caused a scare with the locals as the paratrooper tried to convince them he wasn't a real Russian soldier.
😂 that’s hilarious
'MURICA
When it unequivocally Was.
So an American soldier played a Soviet soldier lmao
William Smith played the Spetznaz officer who shows up later in the movie to take out the Wolverines. He was an actual Air Force intelligence operative who spoke multiple languages and did "stuff" during the Cold War.
Judging from how the VDV landing in Ukraine went, that's totally believable. The getting blown off course and landing in a tree part probably convinced the civilians it must've been real.
*kid in trench coat arrives*
You guys need some backup?
LMAO
That was really edgy
Elite Shitposter and funny
With the pumped kicks you better run faster Then my 7×62mm Ak bullet
Or later Run faster then my 125mm Smoothbore He Tank round
@@Toxi-ed5js Wtf is 7x62 bullet? I know what a 7.62 bullet is...
All these comments about "who would attack a school" and no one paying any respects to the first victim of World War III: Mr. Teasdale.
RIP Mr. Teasdale.
SavageLycan Mr. Teasdale was everything a teacher should be. They don’t make them like that anymore
LOL what's goin' on my friend XD
Yeah true...
F
Most educated man in the school.... just not that smart.
They rushed B
Stephen Jin Cyka Blyat!
2/5 Rush, no P90's seen
When you rush B but glitch outside the map
The students didnt have enough money to buy awps
Bepis Hepus
You mean Rush A(merican)?
You know what I really love with this movie? They didn’t waste your time. They didn’t take 30 or 40 minutes setting up the events, they give you the basic/essential knowledge you need of the characters in the first 10 minutes and then you see the Russians invade
Actually, even less than that! I had the luxury of purchasing a DVD of this movie and the 2012 remake for $5 recently, and I watched the timemark from the start of the movie (including opening credits and logos) to the first sighting of the paratroopers. The history professor drifts off from his lecture to wonder what's going on outside almost exactly at the 5 minute mark. Keep in mind that's not even 5 minutes of characterization because at least 2 of those minutes were just logos and opening credits. All they needed was a 2 minute discussion about football and a 1 minute lecture about Ghengis Khan to get you invested in the characters.
Except the Russian paratroopers are way more competent than in real life...
@@NK-qn6pq Well, but firing into a school building full of civilians (children) is not what I´d expect from a professional soldier....
I just watched this movie for the first time ever, and that was my exact thought as this scene was unfolding…
@@NK-qn6pq LOL. Someone's trolling.
When you bully the Russian kid at school
This comment is underrated.
😂
* *SOVIET ANTHEM STARTS PLAYING IN THE DISTANCE* *
Dad get ur friends on him!
They not russian they cubans
In Soviet Russia our greatest weakness is a Chevrolet pickup truck.
They missed a good marketing scheme with this: bullet in the radiator? Just piss in it.
I loved that truck when I was a kid.
🤣🤣
Da
No your greatest weakness is Finnish farmers
All criticism aside the first glimpse of parachutes falling from the sky is so eerie and intense. Imagine the confusion and fear you would feel
Yes. As an adolescent at the end of the Cold War, it was chilling.
the teacher was probably thinking this is some kind of training
You mean how Iraqi’s felt when we invaded?
We have nukes. This wouldn't happen
@@queterian1526doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to that conclusion. Of course that’s what he thought, he even commented on how they were way of course, meaning they shouldn’t be landing there if they are training.
Guess it’s a good time to rewatch this movie.
Yeah. It does not seem such a stretch to imagine now.
@@catherinegilbert1555 And that famous line everyone always says......"it's just a movie". Is it really. 😏
I'm so glad I'm not the only one to come back to this
Russia invading America will just never happen. Still, scary times.
Their school colors is the Ukraine flag 🇺🇦
“Sir, what should we do with our limited supply of anti-tank weapons?”
“Blow that wooden high school door up, then destroy the empty bus.”
EDIT: turns out this is an accurate depiction of Russian military competence.
"Listen here comrades, as an inavsive force we should get unlimited supplies so the first things i want you to do is to magdump thoose evil capitalist windows"
"Vasily don't forget to use an rpg on the capitalist doors, since as an airdropped force we have sooo much anti tank capabilities"
😂😂😂😂
@Dav Serban big time violation of the Geneva Convention but hey it’s RUS they don’t care
Lol
@Dillon Duncan Not so much the balls but the inability to get a sizable enough force across either the Atlantic or Pacific without being seen and destroyed first.
Imagine how many high schoolers back then imagined this happening and them saving the world lol
@@whybother1887 I wouldn't!
Nowadays we worry what the loner kid in school is gonna do.
@@whoknowswhocares885 instead of accepting them and making them feel welcome
Huh
@@dutton1991z don't worry go back to sleep
If saw a bunch of paratroopers land outside my classroom, last thing I would do is go outside to meet them.
Especially when there speaking another language and there running around with machine guns.
Exactly what I was thinking
We did not learn from what happend to that poor teacher??
It was at that moment Mr. Teasdale became Heisenberg.
Well you know is old movies the black guy always dies first so….you know…it had to happen this way
I wish I would have had this dude for history. He's fantastic.
he really makes it come alive
I was just thinking this, I wish my history teachers actually spoke about the subject instead of giving us busywork and documentaries to watch.
I was sad that the teacher died, he seemed like a cool guy.
Yeah man it sucks, he didn’t even stand a chance. Then again who goes and asked What Going On My Friend? To a guy with a machine gun.
The actor (Frank McRae) passed away in April 29 this year. He was 77.
I kinda just wanted him to keep going on with the lecture lol
Same
@@LuisDiaz-zr2vs 😞
Teacher: *Walks up to Soviet Forces* Hey whats going on here?
Soviet Forces: *Start playing pumped up kicks*
Damian Simmonds in the movie theyre cuban
RedDogge Cuban and russian troops
Larry Garoth the initial paratroopers are cuban
PURDES then you’re dumb
Pal they are not Russians cuz why would they be speaking SPANISH? they are in fact Cuban and Nicaraguans while the Russians arrive later in the film
This looks like the worst military I’ve ever seen portrayed in a movie. They were just running around like call of duty.
russians
The 80s
Haven't seen the film yet but why the hell would they want to kill schoolteachers or children? Even if the school had some strategic advantage geographically, why need to kill the faculty? Trained military personnel wouldn't kill children man (unless ordered).
@@thepotatoof4219 THey are not trained profesionals they are russains.
@@17MrLeon I believe both Soviet and Murikan soldiers knew that a war is best off to be avoided. Soviets were actually sweating bullets during both Cuban crisis and the shooting down of some plane that they thought was intruding their territory in the 80s. No soldier would want to kill unarmed civilians.
I was in 10th grade when this movie came out. Us "Cold War Kids" knew 38 years ago that the events depicted in the movie were not completely outlandish. But I never would have thought in 2022 that Russia would mount a full-scale invasion of a neighboring country.
Ditto.
Yup
IKR? That's something only Western nations have done for the last twenty years.
@@haitolawrence5986 which "Western nation" has invaded a neighboring country in the last 20 years? Please provide facts.
Their school colors is the Ukraine flag 🇺🇦
Oh man, so many war crimes portrayed in this one scene.
DrScaphandre well not really.
Ain't Soviets, these are Cubans/Nicaraguans
DrScaphandre it's just a movie but far as what is seen and depending on politics. For one shooting and killing non-combatants, and if this was a surprise attack without a declaration of war it is also a war crime.
Well it states later in the movie that Russia nuked several cities so its not like killing civilians is out of their ROE
But... doesn't it sound more like American than Russian way of waging wars?
I love this movie. However I do not understand the strategic value in conducting a massive airborne invasion of a rural town. Those slow moving troop transport planes would have had to penetrate hundreds or thousands of miles into the interior while avoiding layers of air defense the whole way.
+Bobby Ricigliano As the Powers Boothe character says in the film: "First wave of the attack came in disguised as commercial charter flights same way they did in Afghanistan in '80. Only they were crack Airborne outfits.."
That's how. No troop transport planes.
+Robert Paulsen it would be cool if they did what world in combat did. Yes I know this movie is older that WIC but having Soviets invade America through transport ships like that was a cool idea and seeing that in a movie woulda been better
"the strategic value in conducting a massive airborne invasion of a rural town"
According to Tanner, the strategic value wasn't the town itself, it was to secure the key passes running through the Rocky Mountains in preparation for the main invasion.
Recruitment film: Strategic value - VIetnam is forgotten.
Think of how much chaos the Boston Marathon Bombing manhunt caused in the rural town of Watertown, MA. Now imagine hundreds of armed soldiers instead
I’m lookin at fighter jets over I-95! How the hell did they get though!
*Sgt Foley has entered the chat*
DoubleDworth ah the good ole days
Ah yes, a man of culture.
Fellow gamer detected. My respect to you sir
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE
I think if there was one thing I could tell John Milius, it's that the most unrealistic part of this movie is that these kids are getting such a thorough and professional history education in the midwest in the 80s.
*"Don't go out there your Black! We always die first."*
He forgot the most important lesson in film history.
PeeboTyson I think that’s more in the horror film genre tropes.
@@TwilightLink77 Tell John Milius that.
your warning is about 36 years too late hes fukin dead
Dawn of the Dead's Peter Washington: Excuse me?
Ah yes, the Soviet Union knew that random high schools where important strategic locations to seize.
Jordan Sipe LMAO
Jordan Sipe The upside down was being opened under that school, duh.
Hey fool study communist infiltration from the Spanish civil war forward the the schools and local govt the first target....were you always stupid or are you a big city public school graduate
@@thomaskelly336 it's called, a JOKE
@Thomas Kelly
Yeah, although the anti-Franco militias were immediately targeting universities and not rural schools. This school has no real strategic importance. Other than detaining the staff for leverage and information on the immediate community. By firing on civilians they undermined their position, granted this drama as entertainment.
1:49, you hear a student say..."I want to see their hallpass." LOL
jacob bogner lol
No he says "he" wants to
Watching this movie in the past: “There’s no way invading Russian soldiers could be *that* incompetent.”
Watching this movie today: “Yeah they got it pretty much right.”
Ukraine?
The only difference would be it will be the Chinese doing it instead. In this new cold war, it will be China instead of the ussr as between them China has plowed ahead technogically and economically
Red dawn
@@GHC3 No, he’s talking about Russia invading Ukraine right now.
@@4477superman oh I see
One thing paratroopers kind of lack is ammunition and weapons. So what did these paratroopers do? Waste them all on a bunch of high school kids.
ARVIN It's almost as if this is basically a red scare propaganda movie.
Yeah. The weird thing is, 1980s is a bit late for a red scare.
Well, the Soviets were back then in Afghanistan, and the US were busy funding mujahedin who would later become Taliban... makes sense to make anti-commie propaganda.
Duncan Wiggin source?
Phoenix Private just look it up. United States funded those groups to fight back against the soviets and it worked but backstabbed is later
1:59 - 2:02
That awkward moment when a kid magically appears dead hanging on the window when everyone ducked.
Probably some producer's kid, getting a cameo in.
@@oddish4352 but he Just Appeared out of nowhere
@@nykrev True. Poor directing, I guess.
He had desync issues
He didnt duck quick enough
I guess they didn't know that that is a gun free zone
lollll
The zone where you are statistically more likely to be shot
It wasn't in Russian
What are you, a liberal?
@@Pat4ever. Well, if there were more guns then statistically you would still be more likely to get shot.
“Life imitates art far more than art imitates life”
"Comrade, these Americans build their airfields in very strange way."
"Ah, comrade. You are tricked by Yankee psyops. They make it look like civilian target."
"I see now, comrade, it is made very well. The GI's even look like children!"
"Yes, yes. Good thing they are not. They're gathering by the window, fire!"
Gamma Raygun is it bad that you read this like your a guy named Sergei wearing track pants??
Meanwhile me the smart paratrooper:wait they are kids and I don’t think this is an airfield
@@gerogegerog5926 bro this seems so unintentionally funny
@@jojop6387 that guy:comrades why does this airfield have no planes
@@gerogegerog5926 Officer : "errr comrades i think we dropped off into a civillian school" *Sees a butt ton of school shooters* "ANUU BLYAT THE AMERICANS HAVE USED GUERILLA TACTICS ON US" *Tactical retreat achieved*
black guy dies first
+forrestgumball True
Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2
+Daniel Dough yep
Of course he does thats what happens in all movies
+forrestgumball The gold rule...
They didn't even work as a team they were just running everywhere shooting and missing the kids.
There storm troopers but worser
Stone Harper after one shoots up the car and they get out, a load more just run past... Who's in charge of this operation 😅
They ran past them because killing civilians was not the objective, it was to secure the landing site. Panicked civilians posed little to no threat. The ones that did shoot were in panic mode.
Seriously if I was their superior officer i would reem out those guys after that shit was over with.
They are running around like a bunch of maniacs with no regard to their limited resources or their exposed positions. Gunning down civilians with no provocation, totally unprofessional conduct for what should be one of the best divisions in the world.
Russian paratroopers to this day are well respected and highly regarded as one of the best trained and displined forces in the world.
I don't have a lick of military training, I'm some fat kid who plays too much video games. And yeah it's a movie, but LOL you can't deny these paratroopers fucked up royally here.
@@zionhyman6081 no combrate Is mass chagre tatic if enemy not knowing what you do The not knowing what to do to kill You
Very Effective DAAAAAAAAA
I love the guy who tackles the Russian when running out the door
Charlie Sheen - Matt Eckert
they invaded Colorado now, people would be too stoned to know whats going on.
capnhands Yeah, but remember... Texas is nearby.
They would probably get shot also
Stoners would be trigger happy lmao.
here in Colorado we alll have M4s mixed in with bongs so we’re shooting our weed sometimes as a flash bang
Because 30 minutes might as well be a lifetime right....I think some bombs going off would kill anybody's buzz.
I was really interested in his talk about the Huns... come on...
No lie though I didn't know they expanded out to the size of Rhode Island. Intriguing
The teacher was talking about the mongols
The Khan.
I'm gonna be a hip-hop badass, and my name shall be THE KHAN.
Yeah... the Ku Klux Khan...
For everyone that's criticizing the Soviet troops' massacre of an innocent civilian high school, just remember that this movie was made during the Cold War. So of course the Russians are gonna be depicted as savages and ruthless monsters. It's totally intentional that they're portrayed that way for propaganda purposes
Matt Brown Actually it makes complete sense for them to shoot up the Highschool seeing as how the teacher approached them and was shot and since they were all scared and unorganized they beleive they were being attacjed so they opened fire. It isnt at all unreasonable for this to happen seeing as how Soviet Propaganda depicted Americans as killers and savages. As well as the fact that in Red Dawn NATO is disbanded and no one follows geneva protocol and China is on the verge of Nuclear Holocaust.
Well, the Soviets actually did shoot civilians in Ukraine, Poland, and the Baltic countries.
Pretty much every movie back then had a propaganda message regardless if they were anti communist or anti capitalist
Matt Brown it'd make it way more believable and compelling if one of the Russian officers was desperately trying to get things back under control to no avail.
Because Russians don't kill civilians? Like they have done on purpose in Chechnya and Syria, to cite only the two latest examples?
Watching Red Dawn before: Haha, why would the Russian Army shoot up a school?
Watching recent events: Oh………..
The begining classroom scene actually looks like a cool history lesson. Wish my school was like that.
My history lessons were like "okay kids, today we're going to be taking a look at women's rights movements in the inter war years".
@@Joke_Bidumb pretty good for understanding how the world came to be tbh
@@koalasarecool7823 Yeh, no one came out of that understanding anything about how the world came to be.
@@Joke_Bidumb wacky
@@koalasarecool7823 we are not told the way the world came to be. school is social engineering.
Don't forget guys, this movie was made during the cold war so naturally it's going to portray the Soviets as evil and somewhat dim whited...
Phaire Couchpotato yup
***** All of my comments as of now have been directed to you, slick. If you paid any attention to my earlier comments, I stated t Couchpotato is right, the movie was made like that for a reason. I did accidently reply to him instead of you in my second comment, but it was clearly directed to you, slick. Also, you don't seem to provide any reasons or justfications as to why all soviets are "evil and dim whited". What, let me guess, a Russian kid bullied you at school? Great reasoning, slick
BIG HUNGRY Whatever your dumbass brain wants, slick
And your responses are so relevant and unironic
The piece of shit is the right name to your propaganda bro. I can name military operations, resulting in mass-murder of civilians:
- Babi Yar massacre (33.000 jews) and Rumbula massacre (25.000 jews) by Einsatzgruppen (German Nazi)
- Dresden massacre (20.000-140.000 citisens) and Hamburg (42.000) by RAF and USAF
- Nanking massacre (40.000-300.000) by Japanese Imperial Army
- Nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (129.000-226.000) by USAF
Now, what are the mass-murders Stalin is so famous for? Your facts, please? Preferably, the documented ones?
You have to admit.......
His lesson about Mongols was interesting
I was inspired to some day use it if I ever became a teacher and taught about the Mongols...well I teach about the Mongols every year, and shed a little tear for Mr. Teasdale...RIP
he was talking about mongols?
@Cheese yes, watch it again where he is talking about the Mongols as the clip starts with a picture of Genghis Khan among other mentioning's of the Khan and Mongols.
@@Tomahwk7 ughhhh letters.....
@@cheese5331 but Mr. Teasdale also said, "...the Mongols..." lol
"Who would attack a school" ,
Russian army in Ukraine "hold my Vodka"
Tell Azov Battalion to stop hiding in schools and using unwilling civilians as human shields.
Don’t sell Russia short they’d have blown it up with children anyway!
@@kingfred3755 Your right. Had they killed all the children and teachers in school the movie would be over.
@@kingfred3755
Azov heroes don't need to hide, they are on the fr0nt k!ll!ng y0u naz!s;)
@@kingfred3755 tell Russia to stop starving civilians
Such an iconic scene which was etched into my memory as a child when I first saw the movie, and it still carries that same weight for me now 30+ years later.
Same here. Those parachutes quietly floating down was so chilling as a kid.
There's a sort of grounded realism in how this was shot that, for me, makes it more chilling. More recent movies are so overdone visually that nothing feels real. This one looks like you are there and this is happening. A lot of movies from this period had that lived-in, real-world look to them.
The dead kid in the window cracks me up.
LOL! Looks like he crashed through a windshield.
he was probably the first casualty of ww3 lol
@@johnstoner8515 but the teacher died before him
@@johnstoner8515 and the school would be renamed after him..lol
the amount of irregularities in this movie is stunning
Oh, the 80s. Back when we thought Russian Spetsnaz's battle plan included a high school.
Coda Mission They landed all over the town.
They capture the town to secure key passages through the rockies which could be used as an american counter attack
Random Nerd Remembre when 'merica came to germany, my proud homecountrie, and bombed Kassel, Darmstadt, Pforzheim, Dresden, Hamburg during the second WW? Urban bombing to frighten the german people... Merica actually did this, compared to a fictional movie where some russians are attacking a highschool
Yep, we didn't use the airborne divisions though.
@@mingusog7036 i dont think that the 2nd world war started because germany bombed a city
@@mingusog7036 you dont seem to understand what these comments were about. it wasnt about who started ww2, it was a discussion about killing civilians without a strategic intention
Fun fact: the teacher was also in National Lampoon's Vacation as one of the Walley World security guards. He even says the same thing "What's going on here?" when Clark pulls the gun on John Candy.
Paratroopers land in school yard
Kid at 1:48 “we should see their hall pass”
Infantry Films man if he asked them that and they had no answer, he could have ended the war before it started!
"Sir should we shoot at the fleeing truck with our rifles?"
"Nyet! use anti-tank launcher!"
"We missed!"
"Darn, oh well no one else shoot at them they got away fair and square!"
And this is why Kharkiv and Kherson are Ukrainian.
This is what my high school years “should” have looked like
Aren’t you the dude who says L85 is a good platform?
You should’ve when you Columbine then
We will start a resistance
@@fighterpilot4059 I heard the new version should be pretty good actually
Soviet paratroopers shooting up the school???
This film aged like a fine wine.
Bully: Bullies the russian kid
The kid: "My friends are coming."
Bully: "Which?"
*VDV INTENSIFIES IN THE DISTANCE*
ВДВ С НЕБА ПРИВЕТ
*Soviet National Anthem intensifies*
Lol
**Killed by dylan klebold**
VEH DEH VEH
Winter camo, blowing up empty school busses, landing in a random rural town, and killing civilians for no reason. Yeah, the "big red monster" that we had to be afraid of uses the same tactical strategy as the Taliban and the stormtroopers from Star Wars.
The Interesting Nobody They land all over the town and they capture the town to secure key passages through the rockies to prevent an american counter attack and set up supply lines they attack because the school teacher spooked them when he approached the soldier and was shot so they thought they were getting attacked and reacted.
This is a movie.
That field behind the school looks like an excellent staging area for more airborne troops. Securing a landing zone involved eliminating all hostile or potentially hostile forces. As for the winter camo, they are landing in Colorado. I am sure that whatever info they had said something about mountains and snow.
@@randomnerd9088 True that.. as you already know.. Andy ( Power booth) explains it all over the camp fore scene
Ukraine has shown us that big Ru monster is everything this movie showed us... and worse.
Directed by the Pentagon.
Distribution by White House
and sold by ronald reagan
Produced by NATO
Executive Producer the FBI
staring donald trump
I love how Swayze really lets us feel the humanity in Jed. Yes, he is a strong, sometimes too merciless leader, but his heart always shines out in the end. He cares so much, but he's wrestling a tiger.
of course, first person to die was a black dude
juki0h tuki And tge mahority of deads are white
Lol
@@andarara-c1p Still the first one to die was black
@@RickySanchez77 Gives no shits
No, this is interesting. An INTELLIGENT black man gets wasted first. Well now, my friend. Well now.
* sees armed paratroopers landing outside the school * “Hi, how may I help you?”
Looked like he thought they were Americans off course during a training exercise
@@patwiggins6969 Ya was about to say
He thought they were Americans blown off course. He literally said “they must’ve blown way off course”
1:59 theres no kid
2:02 theres a kid
Magicccccc
Paul-André Jutras Lmao.
The russian was blocking the view of that window if you look closely.
Al fort no, we get a full shot In the frame after. Kid wasn't there
YOU WOULD BE GREAT AT CINEMA SINS
ok lol I see. The frame where everybody by the window ducks to avoid the gunshots. my bad, He's right.
Who's eles watching this since Russia and Ukraine is at war?
But it didn't happen in reality
bs
As a kid in the eighties, this scenario was totally plausible. Different times
😂😂😂😂😂 murican in standard paranoid mode.
@@TheFergarfergar Paranoid? that was a real possible scenario in the 80's....thats why the USSR spent so much on their arsenal to attack the US
@@crabtrap Not really. It was pretty much certain that any direct conflict with the USSR would be nuclear. This is why they constantly engaged in proxy wars with eachother - neither side wanted to throw a direct punch because they knew it would end the world.
@@Colddirector im not sure what transgender professor told you that...but it is not factually accurate in any way. There was much concern of a coventional conflict in 70-80s because it conserved the US resources for the USSR. A nuke conflict would not have provided any benefit to either power becuase of nuke contamination. Invasion over the bearing straight was/is a constant US concern and to a lesser extent from cuba....esentually a pincher manuver from north and south. So the concept of 'Red Dawn' was very reasonable/plausible for the time.
@@crabtrap Nowadays, very implausible because the the US has a heavy defense network and it had only been building since after WW2 from the threat of invasion. We literally monitor worldwide flights and would've had foresight to properly prepare. Also, I'm pretty sure Nukes are a viable tactic, since it literally vaporizes entire cities. Then again nukes aren't viable right? Just ask the entire world how many nukes are in their arsenal and for what reason they have them. Then ask why US nuked Japan, because it sure wasn't viable at all? Then there's pincer attack which doesn't make sense because it's in the middle of the country and south, those forces would've been overwhelmed. One last point how implausible it is the population, during the cold war there were 2-5 million russian combat ready units, but also the US have 3 million, but the Russians had no viable aircraft carriers to transport all those troops, men, and hold back nato from launching attacks, China at the time was building up its infrastructure, but again the US control the seas with the most aircraft and ships ready to deploy. I can't forget about friendly neighborhood canadians now. It's like saying WW2 Germany invading, the UK, its just not viable and it didn't break the Uk into submission from bombings.
''I'm lookin' at fighter jets over I-95! How the hell did they get through?! ''
Well, MW2 kind of brought me here...
In the movie they tell how they got in. They took fake passenger planes into the US
@@gradygilchrist4923 Like in 9-11. Civil aircraft (ONE) hits the Pentagon. There was no defense.
back in high school this was like every kids dream. to defend their town from the red menace with their friends. we would set up fort in the woods with pellet guns and pretend to be wolverines. no propaganda like entertaining propaganda.
cept the historical wolverines were afterwar nazi resistance
Darkzz Lord the fact that you would cheer for a man that murdered thousands of civilians in a very cowardly way says a lot about you.
Zarcon I thought I was the only one. After seeing this movie I just prayed that we would get invaded by Russia so I could run to the mountains and save my town.
Except I prayed we'd get saved by the Russians from our corrupt government ran by the corporations.
@@M81_WOODLAND Go live in Russia loser!!
Ukraine feeling this movie right now.
This will happen to America, this is biblical
Their school colors is the Ukraine flag 🇺🇦
@@armyinfantry11b source = I read it in a book
@@dukenukem3457 oh wow
@@dukenukem3457 good observation
I lost it when the guy shot an RPG at a door
Let's open that door.
Shoots rpg at it.
Let's turn the lights on in the hallway.
Shoots rpg at it.
Let's refresh ourselves with a cool drink from that water fountain.
Shoots rpg at it.
Remember no americans
Don't you mean, "No English."?
alma wade what? I'm pretty sure he's making a reference to the *no russian* scene in COD
I know that, but it was "No Russian" as in 'no russian language' not 'no russian people'. They were engaged in a false flag op, and to sell it they spoke only in english and not russian. Sorry, I'm a semantics nazi.
*I see what you did there*
Hell yea
every morning in school my first period teacher always opens the blinds for a couple seconds and says that hes making sure the russians arent attacking, its so funny and he says its cuz when this movie first came out he was in high school and it scared him so much
It's the Chinese nowadays.
I didn’t know the first time I watched this movie I was supposed to be taking notes.
Russians don't invade via paratroopers though. They use Trains and Tanks.
@@nickirmen6671 they did use paratroopers in Ukraine to seize the airfield
@@nickirmen6671 Russians don't use Paratroopers? Laughs in WWII and Ukraine.
@@Seriona1 They barely had paratrooper corps in ww2, they used most of them up in the beginning cuz Stalin was crazy in his general killing phase. They had plenty of training before the war though but never got use it lol.
@@nickirmen6671 Soviet Paratroopers were used in WWII. In the early days during the German invasion and later when it was decided to reform them, the last use of them in WWII was in Manchuria.
"In the early days of World War III, guerrillas, mostly children, placed their names of their loss upon this rock. They fought here alone and gave up their lives, so that this nation shall not perish from this earth."
Kids dying in a movie, definitely this is old...
For everyone new here:
-The Soviets attacked the high school because they wanted to place there troops where the least amount of american soldiers were. Washington D.C. was nuked.
-The Soviets managed to invade the mid west by sneaking in as passenger jets
-The Soviet Union went to war against China after they found out China's involvement in the Soviet-Afghan war. They also invaded all of europe except for Spain and Britain. Then they turned against the U.S. aswell.
Check out What if 'Red Dawn' had actually occured? On AlternateHistoryHub for more details
Red Dawn was set in an alternative universe where the US was severely weakened
No way the USSR can attack all of that at once
That would be a good way to collapse your country. A war on 4 fronts, Middle East, Asia, Europe, and America.
After 60s there was no need in ussr, ww3 was canceled, so metropoly commanded to start dismantling this colony.
Except you forgot the fact that these are Cubans.
My history teacher showed us this movie in 9th grade and told us it actually happened. Never expected much from our high school history program ever since.
"The Geneva convention is more like a set of guidelines than actual rules" - Random Soviet Soldier 1980somethin
No, that was Geoffrey Rush in thr 1st Pirates of the Caribbean movie said.
@@rossjones5741 Yes I know, twas but a joke my friend.
@@superbananas7792 All right ha ha.
"I never heard of it" - Jed Eckert, Red Dawwn
When I first saw this movie in 1984, it was a powerful one.
@Mr. Bug You are right. It still is a powerful one. Unfortunately many don't learn from the past.
And now it just looks stupid
1984 eh?
It does look stupid to pantie wasted girly boys who live out their pathetic little lives in video games and try and decide if they want to be a boy or a girl while their busy setting up their next tiktok short.
About half the American population from 13 to 30 need to spend a month living in the country side of Afghanistan so they can realize the pathetic little self important dream world of their phones and computers and video games is NOT how the real world works. It's just their pampered and paid for free life they can enjoy because so many before them bought that freedom with their blood and life. The bill comes due .......
@@crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 You are really screwed up.
I really like this movie, but I serious,y doubt the Soviets would allow their troops to kill civilians.
Hey, the Soviets weren't evil creatures guys, their troops had families too.
The soviets killed thousands of innocent German and Jewish familes
learn history,idiot
soviet saved jewish and helped create israel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations
Heiu, actually is real was created by the Balfour society in the UK...
helped to create
mostly from stalin's authority
Don’t wanna sound like a lunatic but feels like this movie is getting more plausible
RIP MR Teasdale. You were a great history teacher
Ukrainians: we will avenge him! Slava!
A history teacher going down in history as the first person lost in this conflict seems a little ironic. It's like a chemistry teacher who cooks meth with a former student and who's brother inlaw is a DEA agent.
When your history class says that communism was bad
Curtis Choi Back then teachers taught.
It is bad, it was bad, it is the point.
In Soviet Union, History teach you!
@@jemperdiller
Yes, bad for the capitalists controlling the media and education system. They put all their efforts in demonizing the one thing that could endanger them.
@@artificialintelligence8328 all Artificial, no intelligence
Elite Russian Paratrooper when he realizes the kids are shooting back
Rest in peace school teacher
March 2022...you know why I'm here
Before the invasion of Ukraine: "ok I get they are the bad guys and supposed to be bad and incompetant but why would they waste munitions on a school"
After Ukraine: "they only wasted one RPG round on that door?"
It’s nice to see Cleveland from family guy has a side hustle as a history teacher.
What an appropriate time to rewatch this
At 2:00, all the students had ducked the shots. But a second later, there's a kid stuck in the window, dead.
+Savior20061 I thought I was the only one whom noticed that!
No, look again.
Nvm sorry
" Giu La Testa "
I'm the only one that noticed a certain lag when the black guy gets shot?
So this is what happens when you take vodka away from the soviets..
*Little did they know this is actually a military simulation training*
I thought I recognized the history teacher. "SLATER!", the hot-headed police chief from last action hero
1:58 When you play an FPS with 200+ms ping
Lmao the kid ducked and then dies on another shot
Damn those must've been some slow ass bullets...the blood popped out a full second after the Soviet dude shot
Liljefe 301 I KNOW RIGHT
Liljefe 301 it was a new prototype bullet that the Russians came out with. It's speed was 5 fps
2021: “Is it really accurate that the Russian military would just gun down civilians for no reason?”
2022: “Yes.”
Russians: da
These arent russians, theyre soviet internationalists
@@laurioho2041
Soviet union = Russian dictatorship.
@@johngriswold4303
But most of them are:/
@@jeckjeck3119 and why’s that?
Every war/disaster movie with a classroom: coincidentally teaching class about a related subject about said soon to be conflict
The only way I can imagine why these Paratroopers are using up ammo and resources on civilians like this is if they were told to assume every American has a gun. Which isn't a wrong assumption considering the invasion and invading target, but youd think with that in mind they would also be abit wiser to how they handle the occupation as well.
Yelp
True
And then there’s Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.. deliberately targeting civilians.
@@smolphoenix8942
Urban combat requires the clearing of rooms and what not. Though the shelling and what not is deliberately seeking civilian causalities.
Also, its right next door to Russia. You realize how dangerous and not within a good supply line paratroopers are right? Its still rather wasteful and dangerous. Even if it is accurate, it only cements how doomed their invasion is.
It's easier to invade somewhere you border just on the logistics side of things.
It seems targeting civilians is the Russian doctrine in real life as well.
So everyone’s asking “Why would the Russians attack a rural high school?” Well the answer is pretty simple.
The town was a rural but it had 3 strategic places that we know of. It has an airfield, the school, and the town itself. We can assume this town also has a lot of roads, bridges or even highways leading in and out(Kind of like Gettysburg or Bastogne which makes it ideal for troop movements or tanks). This would be perfect for launching further attacks on towns surrounding it or moving troops out/through the Rockies. And since the school was likely along one of these roads taking it was vital to taking the town. If they didn’t take it then US forces could occupy/fortify the school and control one of the roads.
It also could have been a goal to capture as many young men and women such as students in case they were to launch rebellions. This of course is exactly what happens and the Russians predicted it because each of the kids were unaccounted for by the KGB and were wanted.
Can you stop smoking meth
The reason is that is part of the script about children partisans.
in irl terms
the town is bucha and the airfield is hostomel
the civilians dying to vdv is true as well
That teacher totally could have beaten the VDV
fun fact: south park once made an episode which is based on this movie, but instead of being the soviets, it is old people.
Also was Freedom Fighters videogame 2003, was reference in Family Guy and American Dad
Still gives this 52yr older goosebumps.
Me too, I was a freshman in HS when this came out
Me too and I'm even older!
lol lame
Red Dawn is the most popular movie in Ukraine right now
1:59 everybody clearly ducks down but in the next scene a kid magically appears dead on the window.
I was about to post that. I’m amazed there aren’t any top comments about that
Cinamesins would like to know your location
I saw that too
He got curious and peeked again
He wasn’t even there when they began to duck.
I love how their camo isn’t even close to matching the terrain
I suppose they made Shoigu the Defense Minister this early in that timeline.