Umm no. There is no way a tree caused that track damage. This is lack of matainence 100%. The frogs here in Cali are excessively worn too. I've also seen chunks taken out of catch points!? I just walk the right of way sometimes to work. Riding Amtrak is a gamble because of the back of the tickets arbitrary agreement. (Basically you can't sue them). What a piece of junk company man. ALL ABOARD 🎉 One way trip to derail!
The damage to the track was caused by the locomotive derailing not the tree. Besides Amtrak doesn't even own the track they just have rights to run over it.
Interesting things I see here. 1- Broken rail 2- Locomotive front truck on the opposite track. I'm assuming the tree dragged itself to the switch point once the second half of the locomotive was on the track, derailed the locomotive and as a consequence of the tree being on the switch points, knocked the points to the other side forcing the rest of the train to the other side of the track. Now for the broken rail, it must have been due to the locomotive when being forced to derail.. but... when rail breaks in such a manner it's due to the rail having an internal crack or failure. A much worse accident could have occurred if it was not for the tree in this case. Imagine that rail breaking while the Amtrak is going at high speed! This accident plus poor maintenance lead to the broken rail.
@@BigNate5404 and they lose money letting Amtrak use their lines… a huge heavy train of people?!?.. UP could be shipping heavy cargo for big money.. which brings in more revenue 500 box cars full of cargo or 500 people going to KC from St Louis…
@@artmosley3337 YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT RAILROADING! MUCH LESS WEIGHT, MUCH LESS LENGTH ! 500 FREIGHT CARS NEED 20 LOCOMOTIVES, 500 PASSENGERS CAN BE HANDLED BY ONE OR TWO LOCOMOTIVES!
Interesting things I see here. 1- Broken rail 2-Locomotive front truck on the opposite track. I'm assuming the tree dragged itself to the switch point once the second half of the locomotive was on the track, derailed the locomotive and as a consequence of the tree being on the switch points, knocked the points to the other side forcing the rest of the train to the other side of the track. Now for the broken rail, it must have been due to the locomotive when being forced to derail.. but... when rail breaks in such a manner it's due to the rail having an internal crack or failure. A much worse accident could have occurred if it was not for the tree in this case. Imagine that rail breaking while the Amtrak is going at high speed! This accident plus poor maintenance lead to the broken rail.
It seems engineer should have been able to stop and call for conductor to move tree or call mow. Freight train probably would have been fine but when it comes to passengers you have to err on the side of caution everytime. Don't try and push it out of way with plow unless someone is watching from the ground.
Help us out here. 1:35 on this video we have clearly a broken track, while they are claiming a tree on the track caused the problem?????? Last week I was stuck in traffic for about 1.5 hours, due to an accident, can I get a refund and money for my time wasted and gas wasted. Nope! How about a restroom spot. Nope! These people had a rough day, true, but it was better then we all had in that stuck in traffic last week.
NOT SO , THE TREE KNOCKED THE LOCOMOTIVE OFF THE TRACK FIRST, THEN BUMPING INTO AN CROSSOVER SWITCH FROG FROM THE SIDE! ALSO THIS TREE WAS NOT AN LITTLE ONE EITHER!!
@@clarkst.4190 no.. the country is too spread out for long distance passenger trains.. the maintenance is too costly compared to Air travel or even buses.. trains are for heavy, dangerous cargo and light rail for densely populated areas like the East Coast.. Trains do make great sight seeing train trips and vacations… but the ticket prices are very expensive unless heavily subsidized… remember.. Trains where designed for the Ultra Rich and Upper Classes… The train tickets were very expensive to go to the National Parks .. So Rockefeller’s Son, built highways to them to sell gasoline 😂😂😂
Amtrak isn't nationalized. It is a private company that the Federal Government oversees. Though you are right: Pete Buttigieg still has a lot of work to do to improve and expand service. Amtrak has been on the back burner for too long. Though, the Missouri Corridor remains a reliable and safe passenger link corridor. There hasn't been any serious train wreck since the Missouri Pacific train wreck of October 10 1904 where 38 persons died east of Warrensburg when two stean collided in a head on collision.
@@MilePost106 no I don’t, are you underestimating how far someone can see I mean its not like the hwys. Obviously the track inspectors may have missed the track obstruction and they would have moved it. Anything between checks should be honored if the conductor can see it.
Dude, I was waiting for this train at independence station no wonder I never seen it!
Jordan seems to be a kind person; get home safely Jordan!🤞
Umm no. There is no way a tree caused that track damage. This is lack of matainence 100%. The frogs here in Cali are excessively worn too. I've also seen chunks taken out of catch points!? I just walk the right of way sometimes to work. Riding Amtrak is a gamble because of the back of the tickets arbitrary agreement. (Basically you can't sue them). What a piece of junk company man.
ALL ABOARD 🎉
One way trip to derail!
The damage to the track was caused by the locomotive derailing not the tree. Besides Amtrak doesn't even own the track they just have rights to run over it.
Interesting things I see here.
1- Broken rail
2- Locomotive front truck on the opposite track.
I'm assuming the tree dragged itself to the switch point once the second half of the locomotive was on the track, derailed the locomotive and as a consequence of the tree being on the switch points, knocked the points to the other side forcing the rest of the train to the other side of the track.
Now for the broken rail, it must have been due to the locomotive when being forced to derail.. but... when rail breaks in such a manner it's due to the rail having an internal crack or failure. A much worse accident could have occurred if it was not for the tree in this case.
Imagine that rail breaking while the Amtrak is going at high speed! This accident plus poor maintenance lead to the broken rail.
Which RR company owns this section of rail?
Union Pacific
Definitely not Amtrak
@@BigNate5404 and they lose money letting Amtrak use their lines… a huge heavy train of people?!?.. UP could be shipping heavy cargo for big money.. which brings in more revenue 500 box cars full of cargo or 500 people going to KC from St Louis…
@@artmosley3337 YOU KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT RAILROADING!
MUCH LESS WEIGHT, MUCH LESS LENGTH !
500 FREIGHT CARS NEED 20 LOCOMOTIVES, 500 PASSENGERS CAN BE HANDLED BY ONE OR TWO LOCOMOTIVES!
@@rossbryan6102 One locomotive easy, commuter trains in the northeast can fit 1000+ passengers on one train.
Apparently George has knocked another tree 🌲 down 😉👍
Wasn't an average day for Jordan.
🥺
Thank goodness
Interesting things I see here.
1- Broken rail
2-Locomotive front truck on the opposite track.
I'm assuming the tree dragged itself to the switch point once the second half of the locomotive was on the track, derailed the locomotive and as a consequence of the tree being on the switch points, knocked the points to the other side forcing the rest of the train to the other side of the track.
Now for the broken rail, it must have been due to the locomotive when being forced to derail.. but... when rail breaks in such a manner it's due to the rail having an internal crack or failure. A much worse accident could have occurred if it was not for the tree in this case.
Imagine that rail breaking while the Amtrak is going at high speed! This accident plus poor maintenance lead to the broken rail.
This train derailed 2 hours after I saw it!!
I wonder if they're get a delay and repay. I did with Southwestern railway the other day, after train was taking to long to get to Southampton.
For something like this Amtrak will refund fares. However delays rarely get refunded only cancellations
Adventure awaits on Amtrak
Go with Boeing then.
nice
They are so lucky 319 didn’t flip over!
An American train derailing? Must be Tuesday! 😆
It seems engineer should have been able to stop and call for conductor to move tree or call mow. Freight train probably would have been fine but when it comes to passengers you have to err on the side of caution everytime. Don't try and push it out of way with plow unless someone is watching from the ground.
Opinions, opinions…
Not when its doing 90
@@railfan1239 90mph turnout? If he attempted to stop then of course I would admit my assumption was wrong.
They don't stop on a dime. Especially in wet conditions
Help us out here. 1:35 on this video we have clearly a broken track, while they are claiming a tree on the track caused the problem??????
Last week I was stuck in traffic for about 1.5 hours, due to an accident, can I get a refund and money for my time wasted and gas wasted. Nope! How about a restroom spot. Nope! These people had a rough day, true, but it was better then we all had in that stuck in traffic last week.
the broken rail was caused by the derailment
@@Dodener That’s not a broken rail…that’s part of a switch for trains to change tracks. The tracks are owned by Union Pacific
@@Eddieanthony-fs7is
A switch is made of rail. LOL
The tree had little do to with that catastrophic rail fracture. Note how it separated and pulled apart around two feet. No tree could do that.
How dumb can you be @Greatdome99: yes
NOT SO , THE TREE KNOCKED THE LOCOMOTIVE OFF THE
TRACK FIRST, THEN BUMPING INTO AN CROSSOVER SWITCH FROG FROM THE SIDE!
ALSO THIS TREE WAS NOT AN LITTLE ONE EITHER!!
@@rossbryan6102 Thank you. It amazes me how many people are just looking for rabbit holes to jump into.
150 year old technology and the Government Run Railway can’t keep the tracks open?!?!?… where is Pete????
Need more money into America’s rail. Not another 18 lane highway🤢
@@clarkst.4190 no.. the country is too spread out for long distance passenger trains.. the maintenance is too costly compared to Air travel or even buses.. trains are for heavy, dangerous cargo and light rail for densely populated areas like the East Coast.. Trains do make great sight seeing train trips and vacations… but the ticket prices are very expensive unless heavily subsidized… remember.. Trains where designed for the Ultra Rich and Upper Classes… The train tickets were very expensive to go to the National Parks .. So Rockefeller’s Son, built highways to them to sell gasoline 😂😂😂
Amtrak isn't nationalized. It is a private company that the Federal Government oversees. Though you are right: Pete Buttigieg still has a lot of work to do to improve and expand service. Amtrak has been on the back burner for too long. Though, the Missouri Corridor remains a reliable and safe passenger link corridor. There hasn't been any serious train wreck since the Missouri Pacific train wreck of October 10 1904 where 38 persons died east of Warrensburg when two stean collided in a head on collision.
@@artmosley3337 trains connect destinations that are too short to fly and too long to drive, you have no clue what youre talking about
Where was God? He's really in charge. . .
I wonder why the conductor didn't stop and clear the track, could have saved a lot of time. At a switch point too.
How could the crew clear heavy timber fallen on the track? Perhaps they aren't allowed to do so.
@@frankishknight1878 had they stopped they could have did it. They have stopped in travel due to track maintenance, weather or unforeseen events.
When a train is traveling at high speeds like Amtrak, you think they can stop like a car.
@@MilePost106 no I don’t, are you underestimating how far someone can see I mean its not like the hwys. Obviously the track inspectors may have missed the track obstruction and they would have moved it. Anything between checks should be honored if the conductor can see it.
Yes @@MilePost106