Retirement account with CPF LIFE ? | Pros & Cons

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    @skoopqueen Рік тому +13

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  • @winstontoh6346
    @winstontoh6346 10 місяців тому

    Comparing between the Standard Plan and Basic Plan, I feel that the Basic Plan is the fairer plan at age 80 (as you still retain more than 50 percent of your RA value at age 65 due to the accumulated interest earn + principal) whereas the Standard Plan has no more CPF money left over for your loved ones should you pass on at age 80 (as the RA is paid for the insurance Premium which forego the right to earn any interest and any earned interest is pooled in an Annuity Pool to pay other people who live long long).
    At least if I conk off at that age 80, I can still pass on more than 50 percent of my CPF RA value at age 65 to my loved ones!

  • @VamboraSingapore
    @VamboraSingapore Рік тому +1

    It's only "unfair" if one doesn't factor how important the general society's retirement sustainability financially and just focusing on self interests

  • @FreddyAlfonso
    @FreddyAlfonso Рік тому

    Will cpf ask me about 1-2 months before my 65 aged to decide which CPF LIFE plan to opt for?

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  Рік тому +1

      You will be informed before you turn 65 whether you will be automatically included in CPF LIFE. Check out the CPF link for more info : www.cpf.gov.sg/member/faq/retirement-income/monthly-payouts/what-is-the-latest-age-to-join-cpf-life

  • @bernardtan7068
    @bernardtan7068 Рік тому

    It sounds very good that it will continue to pay you beyond 80 years old. But is there a.back door clause for CPF.or govt to change the rule so that they don't have to continue paying you in the future if they somehow reason that they don'thave enough fund in the pool to continue payingthe rest of surviving members?

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  Рік тому

      Good question. Even if there is a change, I think it would apply prospectively. So once we are enrolled into the plan, I don't think there will be drastic changes. - Just my two cents.

    • @keithlee8511
      @keithlee8511 Рік тому

      The dollar amount in CPF LIFE monthly payouts may be adjusted if CPF calculates the annuity pool does not have enough funds to cover more surviving members.

  • @lowyewngoh5953
    @lowyewngoh5953 Рік тому

    If you are on RSS, the payout is higher than if you are on CPF Life. Even if you pass on prematurely, your benefiary will receive every single cent from your RSS, that is principal + interest. Under CPF Life, your beneficiary will receive only the principal.

  • @jacktitanic6960
    @jacktitanic6960 Рік тому

    To me not all will live to 65....if possible i will withdrawl as much as possible when i turn 55.The rest is history !!!!

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  Рік тому +1

      Yeah. Withdraw first, at least get to spend it all by ourselves! Or save, invest, whichever we like.

  • @andrea9797mdd
    @andrea9797mdd 3 роки тому +8

    Such a clear explanation! Thank you!

  • @accqpqp2339
    @accqpqp2339 2 роки тому

    any consequence if i peg my hdb property to meet the BRS?
    any consequence to sale of my hdb, price valuation, rental, rental approval etc ?

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  2 роки тому +1

      When the property is sold, the amount of the pledge will be returned to your CPF account from the proceeds of the sale.

  • @MsCorydorus
    @MsCorydorus 2 роки тому

    I heard CPF Life is the best annuity out there. Dislike it means you are not interested in any private annuity ? Like to hear your thoughts.

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  2 роки тому

      You are right, I am not interested in any private annuity. Personally, I prefer having the flexibility to spend my retirement monies. Hence, I would prefer to invest my monies in diversified investments.
      However, I do agree with you that CPF Life could be one of the best annuity out there for people who wants diversification, assurance or are not confident of their financial discipline.

  • @astleychua
    @astleychua 2 роки тому

    To pledge the property .. How it works? Does it means I don't have an outstanding loan ? thanks

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  2 роки тому +1

      By pledging the property, it doesn't affect how you are financing the property.
      The only impact of pledging your property is that if you do sell your property, the pledged amount will be returned to your CPF account, along with the CPF monies (and accrued interest) you used to pay for the property over the years.

  • @andrewgoh7556
    @andrewgoh7556 2 роки тому +1

    When comparing CPF Life and RSS(old scheme), I will prefer RSS better. For RSS, At 65, $145,200, using just 4% to calculate, it will take slightly more than 23 year to deplete. Meaning RSS payout will least until 88 years old. Therefore under CPF Life, if the person does not live longer than 88 years old, the person actually lose out. Secondly If the person die at 80 years old, under CPF LIFE, there is no money left to for beneficiary. Under RSS, there will be remaining balance(since it last until 88 years old) to give to beneficiary.

  • @kcchiew4247
    @kcchiew4247 3 роки тому +3

    My wife and me will keep ERS in our CPFRA. Might choose Escalating Plan when we reach 65 yo. Because of the lower initial payout of CPF LIFE, we bought few private annuity plans to cover the "loss".

  • @sj.rollin3196
    @sj.rollin3196 3 роки тому +3

    great explanation and insights!

  • @alexsim3646
    @alexsim3646 2 роки тому +1

    Great video and good effort.

  • @peterseah5587
    @peterseah5587 3 роки тому

    Does your RA earn interest of 4% after 65

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  3 роки тому

      Yes it does, if there is still remaining balance in the RA. Do note that when CPF LIFE is enrolled, the premium is deducted from your RA.

    • @keithlee8511
      @keithlee8511 Рік тому

      Yes, 4% plus $900 assuming minimum CPF combined balance of $60k. CPF LIFE annuity plan also earns 4%. So the content at 08:55 where no interest is earned on the CPF LIFE Premium is incorrect.

  • @jasonkee100
    @jasonkee100 3 роки тому +4

    Hi Evelyn.
    No doubt, every CPF members drawing down from their OWN pot of gold [capital (BRS/FRS/ERS @ age 55) + interest accumulated since day 1 of age 55 till as long as one reaches about age 81 (for standard & escalating plans) or about 91 (for basic plan)], and one only stand to gain “free” money if one lives PAST age 81 or 91 (depending on whicih CPF LIfe plan one chooses), it is still the BEST annuity plan, in my opinion, given that it is: (1) life long + (2) “RISK FREE” (barring changes from govt on the policy such as retirement/drawdown age) + (3) HIGH interest (not many other retirement policy actually pays 6% (1st $30k), 5% (2nd $30k) and 4% (excess $60k).
    I wonder why you say that you are NOT in favour of CPF Life, unless you can find a financial product out in the market accessible to mass public retail investors that fulfil all 3 critiera that I have highlighted above.

    • @felixt6335
      @felixt6335 3 роки тому +5

      may be a "better" annuity but annuities are such a poor investment choice IMO. Too much opportunity cost. Locking up $145k and only $10k yearly payout for life is not gonna be sufficient especially factoring in inflation. Rather have my hard-earned savings in a diversified basket of blue chips and/or bonds..

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Jason,
      Thanks for your insights.
      I am not a financial advisor so I may not be familiar with other annuity plans. But I am not a fan of annuity plans and prefers investing in safe stocks because I don't like to have my money locked up like in the case of CPF LIFE or any other annuity plans which give low returns.
      But I do agree CPF life is a safe retirement approach and suitable for people who are not confident of their financial discipline, not familiar with investing and does not want complications when they are old.

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  3 роки тому +1

      @@felixt6335 Totally agree with you! After I know how to invest, I've never looked at annuities the same way again. Stocks allow me to grow money at a much faster rate.

    • @paceskate
      @paceskate 2 роки тому +1

      @@evelynthoughts it would be good if you could create a youtube video that shows how you invest.

  • @davidgan8060
    @davidgan8060 2 роки тому +1

    Evelyn should not have wasted her time making videos. Investment is the key.

    • @marinabayavillion6363
      @marinabayavillion6363 2 роки тому +2

      You should be spending time baby sitting your investments, so why are you 'wasting time' coming here?

  • @henrylim695
    @henrylim695 2 роки тому +2

    Can i top-up my SA from transfer from OA ? I am 73 years and have reached FRS.

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, you will not be able to make CPF transfers to your Special Account (SA) after you turn 55. You can only transfer your Ordinary Account savings to your RA.

    • @holypunk12
      @holypunk12 Рік тому

      ​@@evelynthoughtstechically both are same right ?!

  • @JS-ev4xc
    @JS-ev4xc 2 роки тому +2

    Very comprehensive and enlightening. Indeed, this plan is suitable for those who are not good in investment. But forgoing the interest for 15yrs is hard to swallow. It seems that you are being punished if you have short life span, being shorter life span is already a punishment, a double punishment?! Govt does not encourage betting, but this CPF Life is all abt betting, u hv to bet whether u will live short or long to decide on the RA amt and types of plans to enroll in.

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  2 роки тому +1

      Couldn't agree more with you. I guess from govrn's POV, this is a basic insurance that they want us to have when we are old. But perhaps it would be good if they could give an option for people who are able to meet a certain level financial independence to opt out of this scheme.

    • @KrishnanV9
      @KrishnanV9 2 роки тому +3

      It’s a bit like Annuity given it’s guaranteed and no risk. CPF life may not be sufficient for a family. We should look at CPF LIFE as a basic minimum amount that’s secured for as long as we live. On top of that we will use our other investments(which will have some form of risk). The advantage of CPF Life is the security and guarantee you get for a basic amount that will secure a simple life. There is something called sequence of return risk when we depend purely on investments to sustain our post retirement period.. CPF life helps to protect from those with guaranteed income.
      Ofcourse it’s true, those who are financially savvy can find ways to manage. But, for the large part of people, they can’t.

    • @sixers1984
      @sixers1984 2 роки тому

      @@evelynthoughts Already at that old age liao still wanna earn so much money for what? Can bring together with you ar? lol

  • @pongpong5108
    @pongpong5108 3 роки тому +6

    As you get much older, you may not be able to manage your investment as well /or have the energy. Putting some in cpf life .. might be good .. as a form of diversification and no need to bother with mkt volatility .

    • @evelynthoughts
      @evelynthoughts  3 роки тому +1

      Yup agree. Based on personal preference. CPF life is suitable for people who dislike complexity when they are old.

    • @renatang7275
      @renatang7275 3 роки тому +2

      Safe investment.

    • @jinngeechia9715
      @jinngeechia9715 2 роки тому

      @@renatang7275 There is no such thing as a safe investment instrument.

    • @JRambonian
      @JRambonian 2 роки тому

      @@jinngeechia9715 For eg. Fully paid up FH property is an ultra safe investment right?

    • @jinngeechia9715
      @jinngeechia9715 2 роки тому

      @Nigel still no. You are still subject to whims of the property market. Nothing is safe. Even your SDIC protected monies. Inflation eats it.

  • @wisteriawishy
    @wisteriawishy 2 роки тому +4

    CPF Life is just one of the layers in retirement. It could provide some financial stability and cushion any black swan events, if we have investments in stocks. As seen in the COVID-19 situation (black swan), dividend-paying stocks like REITs are badly affected, so for retirees, CPF Life could be a blessing in disguise. I think how we could think of retirement is ensuring we don't put all eggs into one basket and there're multiple income streams. Personally, I think FRS will be sufficient for me, since I also have stock investments.

  • @savethebees2506
    @savethebees2506 2 роки тому +4

    For the investment savvy ones, cpf life sucks... Bec it's your own money paying yourself.
    Free money from garmen only kicks in after 80. 🤭
    For the old uncles and aunties who does not know what Qqq stands for, 😁😁, then cpf life is a life saver for them.
    Like what evenlyn says,
    leave the bare minimum and stake the excess somewhere that will make you happy, including going for the long overdue vacation..
    After all, money is as equally precious as memory. 😀
    Happy retiring, folks.....!

  • @boonweeaw3532
    @boonweeaw3532 2 роки тому +1

    Well said, cpf life not so Fair