This video is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Very thorough with the explanation of each card and engine interactions. Your effort is greatly appreciated. Can’t wait for the next part. By the way, here are the timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:21 Bad matchups / Deck Weaknesses 01:35 Core Dogmatika engine 10:30 Optional Dogmatika cards 17:38 “Meme” Dogmatika cards 22:57 Main Extra Deck cards 25:20 Optional Extra Deck Cards 30:37 Base Engine Ratios 32:38 Turbofied Base Engine 35:47 Branded Dogmatika 37:20 Branded Bystial Dogmatika 40:20 Bystial Dogmatika 41:32 Spellbook Dogmatika 42:30 Iblee Dogmatika 45:43 Nekroz Dogmatika 50:15 Invoked Dogmatika 52:48 Evil Eyes Dogmatika 01:01:29 Closing thoughts
This is easily the most extensive Dogmatika video I've found! Awesome stuff! I hope in the future you can talk about Dogmatika in Master Duel. Several important cards have been leaked, like Garura & Tri-Brigade Bucephalus.
Im a completly begginer and i would like to play this deck in Master duel. Does this could apply to Master Duel? Thanks in advance and greetings from Mexico! 🤙🏾
7:10 im fairly certain the restriction is part of the effect, so if they negate it u are not locked. Pot of Extravagance has identical wording (for comparison)
@@driptcg if a card says "do this, also for the rest of this turn you cannot...", if that effect or its activation is negated, the restriction is too. If a card says "do this and that. For the rest of this turn after this card/effect resolves, you cannot...", it will lock you regardless of negation.
@@rebirthofshien364 that is not accurate. Even when they say "for the rest of this turn after this card resolves", that sentence is (generally) still part of the effect, so if the effect is negated, so is the restrinction (again, because its part of the same effect). (Also even tho I said "generally", im not sure of any specific exception to this). For example, Nadir Servant has official rulings on how ur not locked even if only the effect is negated, like with ash.
@@driptcg yes, it is due to wording. If branded fusion gets ashed, you are still locked into fusion due to it being a seperate sentence on the card. Nadir is worded like: "Send 1 Monster from your Extra Deck to the GY, then add ..., also for the rest of this turn after this card resolves, you cannot Special Summon Monsters from the Extra Deck. You can only activate 1 "Nadir Servant" per Turn" Due to the comma, its part of the same effect. Branded Fusion is worded "Fusion Summon 1 Monster that mentions... or field as Fusion Material. You cannot Special Summon Monsters from the Extra Deck, except Fusion Monsters, the turn you activate this card."
@@rebirthofshien364 branded fusion is completely different from all the cards weve mentioned thus far, because it has different wording (and its not due to being on a separate sentence). Kalamity/Extravagance/Nadir/etc servant all say "for the rest of this turn..." whereas Branded Fusion says "you cannot... the turn you activate this card". The key difference here being "for the rest of this turn" vs "the turn". Generally speaking, when something says "the turn you activate..." that phrase is not an effect. Which is why if you ash BF, Prosperity, Red Eyes Fusion, Duality, etc the restriction still applies. Notoriously, thats also why you can't chain Dark Bribe to Prosperity (but u can to extrav). On the contrary, when something says "for the rest of this turn..." that phrase generally is an effect, which is why it can be negated, unlike the above clause. As a side note, theres many effects in ygo that have more than 1 sentence that belong to 1 single effect. For example Igknight Reload has a "for the rest of this turn you cannot draw" clause on a seperate sentence, but its still part of its only effect, meaning if u ash it, the restriction is also negated (even tho its on a separate sentence). More famously, thats why Shaddoll Fusion can be ashed, even tho the "send from deck" is on another sentence.
Hi there great video. Looking forward to more parts to it. So I am running x2 souls x1 illiusion x3 cynet x2 iblee as well. I do have a question on the souls. I didn’t understand the video very well when you was demonstrating. How does it give you a turbo/+souls.
Souls is an optional extender that can generate "tempo" (faster card advantage). The usual 2 ritual combo usually goes that you ritsummon relic with kalamity, search macabre then white knight off of that, then you summon knight with macabre to get a send. You can though, instead of searching knight directly, add Illusion of chaos, then use it to add souls, souls summon out by sending white knight, then ritsummon knight from GY with macabre. The advantage: - you can send matrix afterwards with souls to draw 1 card (thats the "turbo") - you can trade-in currently dead cards to draw into live ones (TTT -> handtraps/engine) - you deckthin for 1 card, improving your topdeck nadir chance - technically a prevented -1 due to summoning from gy - diviner can now make synchro 7 alone (yazi, clear wing/cyberse quantum/AFD/blackrose/wind pegasus) The disadvantage: - you give up 2 slots of non-engine - you give up a matrix send for next turn (on field eff is once per copy per turn) - you do an extra summon (making it 5 summs if you do diviner+matrix, or use branded fusion/bystial lubellion) Use: you produce more likelihood of having handtraps in your hand if you play vs a deck where they matter a lot (Drytron, Branded)
Also please cut cynet mining down and max out iblee first, you ruin the point of the card by running it that way. Or run small world (diviner is a bridge from light to iblee) instead.
I’ve been experimenting with an 8 card Mikanko engine, and I have found it to be pretty interactive with opponent’s boards going first (both Dogmatika and Mikanko get better post-CYAC). I would look into it! You can also bounce back your own Ecclesia with Arabesque to have follow up for next turn, and avoid super poly if you have Zoa or Knight already on board.
Also, there’s a cool interaction where White Relic can boost your opponent’s monster’s attack and then you can ram your Ohime into it, reflect damage, then use Ohime’s effect to target Rondo and steal the opponent’s boosted monster for game.
@@rebirthofshien364 sorry, I just saw this haha - I can understand that. I added preparation of rites to help retrieve macabre in grave to help grind further (while also searching Ohime).
Not happening, nekroz will stay irrelevant until they print new support. Just play it with aleister if you want to run dolls. Unicore is a joke this format, it has no nieche, and dolls are bricks in a format that REQUIRES non-engine to win no matter the deck.
This video is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Very thorough with the explanation of each card and engine interactions. Your effort is greatly appreciated. Can’t wait for the next part.
By the way, here are the timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:21 Bad matchups / Deck Weaknesses
01:35 Core Dogmatika engine
10:30 Optional Dogmatika cards
17:38 “Meme” Dogmatika cards
22:57 Main Extra Deck cards
25:20 Optional Extra Deck Cards
30:37 Base Engine Ratios
32:38 Turbofied Base Engine
35:47 Branded Dogmatika
37:20 Branded Bystial Dogmatika
40:20 Bystial Dogmatika
41:32 Spellbook Dogmatika
42:30 Iblee Dogmatika
45:43 Nekroz Dogmatika
50:15 Invoked Dogmatika
52:48 Evil Eyes Dogmatika
01:01:29 Closing thoughts
Thanks! Stuff is still in the work, but I appreciate that you guys enjoy it.
This is easily the most extensive Dogmatika video I've found! Awesome stuff!
I hope in the future you can talk about Dogmatika in Master Duel. Several important cards have been leaked, like Garura & Tri-Brigade Bucephalus.
Well they are out, and its going well
waiting forward to part 2!
very nice tips, i've been trying to make one for Master Duel format.
Been waiting for a video like this! Going to play at YCS LA
This was very educational, thank you!
Im a completly begginer and i would like to play this deck in Master duel. Does this could apply to Master Duel?
Thanks in advance and greetings from Mexico! 🤙🏾
can you talk about what this deck would look like post CYAC
Thanks for the vid! Havent seen it yet (🤣) but im in love w the deck and been looking for more coverage! So many power cards🔥🔥🔥
7:10 im fairly certain the restriction is part of the effect, so if they negate it u are not locked. Pot of Extravagance has identical wording (for comparison)
@@driptcg if a card says "do this, also for the rest of this turn you cannot...", if that effect or its activation is negated, the restriction is too.
If a card says "do this and that. For the rest of this turn after this card/effect resolves, you cannot...", it will lock you regardless of negation.
@@rebirthofshien364 that is not accurate. Even when they say "for the rest of this turn after this card resolves", that sentence is (generally) still part of the effect, so if the effect is negated, so is the restrinction (again, because its part of the same effect). (Also even tho I said "generally", im not sure of any specific exception to this).
For example, Nadir Servant has official rulings on how ur not locked even if only the effect is negated, like with ash.
@@driptcg yes, it is due to wording. If branded fusion gets ashed, you are still locked into fusion due to it being a seperate sentence on the card.
Nadir is worded like: "Send 1 Monster from your Extra Deck to the GY, then add ..., also for the rest of this turn after this card resolves, you cannot Special Summon Monsters from the Extra Deck. You can only activate 1 "Nadir Servant" per Turn"
Due to the comma, its part of the same effect.
Branded Fusion is worded "Fusion Summon 1 Monster that mentions... or field as Fusion Material. You cannot Special Summon Monsters from the Extra Deck, except Fusion Monsters, the turn you activate this card."
@@rebirthofshien364 branded fusion is completely different from all the cards weve mentioned thus far, because it has different wording (and its not due to being on a separate sentence). Kalamity/Extravagance/Nadir/etc servant all say "for the rest of this turn..." whereas Branded Fusion says "you cannot... the turn you activate this card". The key difference here being "for the rest of this turn" vs "the turn". Generally speaking, when something says "the turn you activate..." that phrase is not an effect. Which is why if you ash BF, Prosperity, Red Eyes Fusion, Duality, etc the restriction still applies. Notoriously, thats also why you can't chain Dark Bribe to Prosperity (but u can to extrav).
On the contrary, when something says "for the rest of this turn..." that phrase generally is an effect, which is why it can be negated, unlike the above clause.
As a side note, theres many effects in ygo that have more than 1 sentence that belong to 1 single effect. For example Igknight Reload has a "for the rest of this turn you cannot draw" clause on a seperate sentence, but its still part of its only effect, meaning if u ash it, the restriction is also negated (even tho its on a separate sentence). More famously, thats why Shaddoll Fusion can be ashed, even tho the "send from deck" is on another sentence.
Really good video. Surprised you didnt mention sauravis
Pretty good deck!
Hi there great video. Looking forward to more parts to it. So I am running x2 souls x1 illiusion x3 cynet x2 iblee as well. I do have a question on the souls. I didn’t understand the video very well when you was demonstrating. How does it give you a turbo/+souls.
Souls is an optional extender that can generate "tempo" (faster card advantage).
The usual 2 ritual combo usually goes that you ritsummon relic with kalamity, search macabre then white knight off of that, then you summon knight with macabre to get a send.
You can though, instead of searching knight directly, add Illusion of chaos, then use it to add souls, souls summon out by sending white knight, then ritsummon knight from GY with macabre.
The advantage:
- you can send matrix afterwards with souls to draw 1 card (thats the "turbo")
- you can trade-in currently dead cards to draw into live ones (TTT -> handtraps/engine)
- you deckthin for 1 card, improving your topdeck nadir chance
- technically a prevented -1 due to summoning from gy
- diviner can now make synchro 7 alone (yazi, clear wing/cyberse quantum/AFD/blackrose/wind pegasus)
The disadvantage:
- you give up 2 slots of non-engine
- you give up a matrix send for next turn (on field eff is once per copy per turn)
- you do an extra summon (making it 5 summs if you do diviner+matrix, or use branded fusion/bystial lubellion)
Use: you produce more likelihood of having handtraps in your hand if you play vs a deck where they matter a lot (Drytron, Branded)
Also please cut cynet mining down and max out iblee first, you ruin the point of the card by running it that way. Or run small world (diviner is a bridge from light to iblee) instead.
@@rebirthofshien364 do you have a discord I could send you my decklist.
Can u make a budget version?
i liked the nekroz part
What do you think how the deck will change with the new support? Quem / lvl 12 synchro etc.?
You think this will envolve in the turbo bystial version?
Not mich, quem is barely useful. You run lulu because of her send effect ofc
I’ve been experimenting with an 8 card Mikanko engine, and I have found it to be pretty interactive with opponent’s boards going first (both Dogmatika and Mikanko get better post-CYAC). I would look into it! You can also bounce back your own Ecclesia with Arabesque to have follow up for next turn, and avoid super poly if you have Zoa or Knight already on board.
I have done that, the reason I didnt add it is cause the engine barely grinds.
Also, there’s a cool interaction where White Relic can boost your opponent’s monster’s attack and then you can ram your Ohime into it, reflect damage, then use Ohime’s effect to target Rondo and steal the opponent’s boosted monster for game.
@@rebirthofshien364 sorry, I just saw this haha - I can understand that. I added preparation of rites to help retrieve macabre in grave to help grind further (while also searching Ohime).
I usually search sauravis and i can deal with labrynth
Would you do an updated nekroz shaddoll deck please
Not happening, nekroz will stay irrelevant until they print new support.
Just play it with aleister if you want to run dolls.
Unicore is a joke this format, it has no nieche, and dolls are bricks in a format that REQUIRES non-engine to win no matter the deck.
No problem thx for the reply