No member of the public has EVER reported "two males" doing ANYTHING. The phrase "two males" is only EVER used by the police. No ordinary person speaks like that. NOBODY reported "two males" doing anything. This policeman, who addresses the filmer as "Buddy" and "Mate" is utterly unprofessional and a complete liar.
"Have you had prior written consent to film our station"... I've never heard so much rubbish in my life 😂 Wow! They need to definitely brush up on the law of the land 👊
Never consent to having a conversation with these costume wearers. Say it early and you have grounds for a case for harassment if they continue to bother you. The coppers have to request you leave any private areas.
The standard of policing in the UK has really declined in the last 50 years. PC 31095 must think that he is in America and, like law enforcement officers in the US, can lie with impunity. This is why police in the UK, just like their American counterparts, are not trusted or believed. PC 31095 is desperately in need of retraining with emphasis on how to interact with the public.
In the police dictionary conversation = interrogation because it always consists of questions, questions & more questions. The definition of a conversation is not where one party simply aske a second party questions.
Freedom to photograph and film "Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." - MET police. Basically, ANYTHING you can see from a public point of view can be recorded. Police are never your friends, they just want to find anything to arrest you with.
Haha the wording of them laws are like tongue twisters someone really needs to rewrite em, clearly the police were trying anything to get these guys to leave, police do so much fishing they should change there uniform for a wax jacket and some waders.
Police officers today, are far too young to have any grown up experience at all, hence they have to make the law according to them .🤪 in this video there are 3 coppers for the 3 minutes he has been there, what a waste of resources .all i want to know is: does the mummy and daddies of these 3 children know they are about, harrasing law abiding members of the public , during the hours of darkness ?
I might be correct or wrong if a police officer fails to identify there full name or just there name and station based if they just give there shoulder number I think it's still identify enough to find out there full name and station based if you phone 101
The numbers are not exactly unique to each police person. For example this video is in Nottingham, the neighbouring force might also have someone with the same number. If you think of any big event like the Coronation, police from every force in the country were drafted in. I even seen videos of the PSNI there. No doubt some of the police at that event had the same numbers, just different forces.
The old having a conversation rubbish. While I'm recording you , because that's how everyone has a conversation they get their phone out and record people
we have investigated ourselves and found that we are too stupid and incompetent to investigate ourselves. We can't even learn the law or our own policies 😂
I’m not your mate or your buddy. I’m Sir to you copper. The test of anyone’s character is to let them wear a hi vis jacket. The reason why coppers tuck their trousers in their boots is to stop all the sh+t dribbling out. Most cops have little or no idea about what’s lawful, ask Couzens, Carrick and their many mates. The fact we have to employ halfwits to be police officers is unbelievable. In the end they had to take to their trotters and and waddle back in their sty sorry station 😂
Police are entitled to ask questions in a consensual contact BUT as soon as a PC begins with the premise of "asking question" of an incident or crime ,, that consent is now rebuked from asking questions as the PC must now issue a "caution" (code C10.1) before questions asked , ...................................(if then arrested another "caution" code C10.4) before arrest ,, As a culture, we are losing sight of of what we believe is the police "lodestone" PC now has to go by :-- Criminal Procedure Investigations 1996 ,s.22 (2) In this Part references to material are to material of all kinds, and in particular include references to :-- (a) information and; (b) object's of all descriptions = Assume nothing Believe nobody Investigate everything The moment that Investigation begins with the "premise " of "belief" that Investigation is now "flawed" eg. Operation Midlands 🤷♂
The police station is public property, area of the police station may be made restricted public property by fencing, gates and signage. The use of the words "Private Property" on public property is a poor show. Ignorance of the law is no excuse under the law, these police officers appear ignorant of the laws they are attempting to enforce. Incompetence on this level would result in dismissal in any other area of employment but incompetent police officers always get away with it. A consensual conversation is one which either party may end at any time, these cops are neither polite nor friendly. They are giving orders when no law is being broken and no emergency is taking place. They need to be ordered to return their uniforms and warrants.
If written permission is needed, that's OK, because Andy said it was OK, and Helen agreed. Andy Trotter as secretary of the IOPC and Helen Maunder of the NPCC both issued documents concerning public photography and both stated that Photography Is Not A Crime (Couldn't resist the capitals)
When a idiot bizzy tells you they only want a conversation then you should have one for fun. Ask them if they have any tips for the Grand National, Who will win the premier league. Which is the best film, Goodfellas or the Godfather.😂
private property sign but to them its no filming i mean where do they hire these people, they must take people who are so stuipd but being stuipd is perfect to the police
There’s only one reason why they don’t want to be filmed it’s because it will go down as one of many balls ups that will not be forgiven and will be with them for the rest of theirs lives kid s grandkids what a legendary to leave 😅😅😅😅😅😅
OFFICER (ORE WANNA BE COP) 31095,,,, EVER HEARD ABOUT,,,,, , ECHR European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms ECHR) is a European treaty in which the human and civil rights of all residents of the member countries are laid down (article 10). allows filming in the public sector, even people in public and in government buildings , everything you can see from public (even if you point into private buildings and sites) you can photo and record it since November 4, 1950, Google Earth (with zoom) google maps, google street view, cars with a dash cam going by this law
Sorry, but this video is Not impressive in any way. In short it is a waste of time. Do you have trouble reading? If so you have my sympathy. Yes I am subscribed btw
Never ceases to amaze me how sure the Police are so sure of laws that don't exist
They have no knowledge of laws that exist & an encyclopeadic knowledge of laws that don't exist.
@@thefoxhat6163 great reply
They just hope you dont know
If lying was an olympic sport these cops would win gold every time.
They'd have plenty of competition.... from all the other plods out there.
I like the analogy with an Olympic gold medal (I think that I might steal it for my own use!).
No member of the public has EVER reported "two males" doing ANYTHING. The phrase "two males" is only EVER used by the police. No ordinary person speaks like that. NOBODY reported "two males" doing anything. This policeman, who addresses the filmer as "Buddy" and "Mate" is utterly unprofessional and a complete liar.
"Have you had prior written consent to film our station"... I've never heard so much rubbish in my life 😂 Wow! They need to definitely brush up on the law of the land 👊
Never consent to having a conversation with these costume wearers. Say it early and you have grounds for a case for harassment if they continue to bother you. The coppers have to request you leave any private areas.
at end of day police station is public accessible
You’ve already got written permission from acpo and npcc memos on social media section 4.3
Every police officer should have read the memo
Exactly ignorance of the law is no defence, works both ways
Andy said I could, and Helen agrees.
Should have told him toy have written permission and give him the memo from the police...
Earning the hate every day.
PC clueless 😆
The standard of policing in the UK has really declined in the last 50 years.
PC 31095 must think that he is in America and, like law enforcement officers in the US, can lie with impunity.
This is why police in the UK, just like their American counterparts, are not trusted or believed.
PC 31095 is desperately in need of retraining with emphasis on how to interact with the public.
Their ignorance is matched by their conceit and arrogance. It is no wonder they are despised.
In the police dictionary conversation = interrogation because it always consists of questions, questions & more questions. The definition of a conversation is not where one party simply aske a second party questions.
Seems as if we’ve reached the bottom of the sewage pit as far as the intelligence demonstrated by the wannabe bearded cop..
Freedom to photograph and film
"Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel." - MET police.
Basically, ANYTHING you can see from a public point of view can be recorded.
Police are never your friends, they just want to find anything to arrest you with.
Lee Mack joined the tryant...er I mean the Police service now?
Assuming wrong conversation polite following really officer we believe you.
Haha the wording of them laws are like tongue twisters someone really needs to rewrite em, clearly the police were trying anything to get these guys to leave, police do so much fishing they should change there uniform for a wax jacket and some waders.
I’ve noticed it’s the less intelligent cops that approach the camera
them signs are bit pointless
Police officers today, are far too young to have any grown up experience at all, hence they have to make the law according to them .🤪 in this video there are 3 coppers for the 3 minutes he has been there, what a waste of resources .all i want to know is: does the mummy and daddies of these 3 children know they are about, harrasing law abiding members of the public , during the hours of darkness ?
Police standard's are so low now days
I might be correct or wrong if a police officer fails to identify there full name or just there name and station based if they just give there shoulder number I think it's still identify enough to find out there full name and station based if you phone 101
No I think you need a shoulder number and the station to correctly identify then
The numbers are not exactly unique to each police person. For example this video is in Nottingham, the neighbouring force might also have someone with the same number. If you think of any big event like the Coronation, police from every force in the country were drafted in. I even seen videos of the PSNI there. No doubt some of the police at that event had the same numbers, just different forces.
Excellent work lads.
The old having a conversation rubbish. While I'm recording you , because that's how everyone has a conversation they get their phone out and record people
we have investigated ourselves and found that we are too stupid and incompetent to investigate ourselves. We can't even learn the law or our own policies 😂
Why do cops run their mouth without having a clue what they are talking about
I’m not your mate or your buddy. I’m Sir to you copper.
The test of anyone’s character is to let them wear a hi vis jacket.
The reason why coppers tuck their trousers in their boots is to stop all the sh+t dribbling out.
Most cops have little or no idea about what’s lawful, ask Couzens, Carrick and their many mates.
The fact we have to employ halfwits to be police officers is unbelievable.
In the end they had to take to their trotters and and waddle back in their sty sorry station 😂
yet they can ignore 999 calls recent news
That lead to 4 people deaths
Mate, pal ,ye rite do one.
Police are entitled to ask questions in a consensual contact BUT
as soon as a PC begins with the premise of "asking question" of an incident or crime ,, that consent is now rebuked from asking questions as the PC must now issue a "caution" (code C10.1) before questions asked , ...................................(if then arrested another "caution" code C10.4)
before arrest ,,
As a culture, we are losing sight of of what we believe is the police "lodestone" PC now has to go by :--
Criminal Procedure Investigations 1996 ,s.22
(2) In this Part references to material are to material of all kinds, and in particular include references to :--
(a) information and;
(b) object's of all descriptions =
Assume nothing
Believe nobody
Investigate everything
The moment that Investigation begins with the "premise " of "belief"
that Investigation is now "flawed"
eg. Operation Midlands 🤷♂
when will they learn to shut up and get on with dealing with crime
Why' don't they just say they don't like the cameras because it picks up what they do wrong remember there are cameras everywhere
They just tell lies when they want
police trying to force themselves without knowing the actual acts of law..."policing by their own ideas".....
The police station is public property, area of the police station may be made restricted public property by fencing, gates and signage. The use of the words "Private Property" on public property is a poor show.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse under the law, these police officers appear ignorant of the laws they are attempting to enforce. Incompetence on this level would result in dismissal in any other area of employment but incompetent police officers always get away with it. A consensual conversation is one which either party may end at any time, these cops are neither polite nor friendly. They are giving orders when no law is being broken and no emergency is taking place. They need to be ordered to return their uniforms and warrants.
They also never said that they have their body cams on recording the guys
NO YOU DONT...DONT LET THEM TELL YOU OTHERWISE
Pc jokes one fail audit muppets
They lie 😊
If written permission is needed, that's OK, because Andy said it was OK, and Helen agreed.
Andy Trotter as secretary of the IOPC and Helen Maunder of the NPCC both issued documents concerning public photography and both stated that Photography Is Not A Crime (Couldn't resist the capitals)
When a idiot bizzy tells you they only want a conversation then you should have one for fun. Ask them if they have any tips for the Grand National, Who will win the premier league. Which is the best film, Goodfellas or the Godfather.😂
another bent police officers
private property sign but to them its no filming i mean where do they hire these people, they must take people who are so stuipd but being stuipd is perfect to the police
Bad cop
There’s only one reason why they don’t want to be filmed it’s because it will go down as one of many balls ups that will not be forgiven and will be with them for the rest of theirs lives kid s grandkids what a legendary to leave 😅😅😅😅😅😅
That’s great where’s your wax jacket n waders,😂😂what d yu mean well yu just phishing,,yes it’s spelt right,,,meaning phishing for evidence
thank you, you are both dismissed
R we all perfect like😢😢😢😢
Another one of our finest does not know the law and spouts rubbish
You made hard work of that…need to brush up on your reading skills my man 🙈👍👍✌️
OFFICER (ORE WANNA BE COP) 31095,,,, EVER HEARD ABOUT,,,,, , ECHR European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms ECHR) is a European treaty in which the human and civil rights of all residents of the member countries are laid down (article 10). allows filming in the public sector, even people in public and in government buildings , everything you can see from public (even if you point into private buildings and sites) you can photo and record it since November 4, 1950, Google Earth (with zoom) google maps, google street view, cars with a dash cam going by this law
Can you please read the legislation properly and not put words in that are not written.
Sorry, but this video is Not impressive in any way. In short it is a waste of time.
Do you have trouble reading? If so you have my sympathy. Yes I am subscribed btw
Why r u so rude are yu perfect like😢😢he certainly taught those cops the law,so it wasn’t pointless was it😅
This dude can't read lol