I adoreTom Bombadil. He brought peace and silliness to a serious part of the book. Also, that is the last time the Hobbits get a chance to rest until Rivendell and Lothlorien. Tom shows hospitality and beauty to the very shocked hobbits.
People who complain about Fitz don’t realize where he came from, arriving at the very young age of approximately 5 yrs of age and then no one really teaching him anything about being a human. I really could relate to him, having to teach yourself about relationships and emotions etc.
It is so great to hear someone else talk about how the first Mistborn book was amazing but the other two fell flat!! I thought I was the only 1 who saw it!
I’m in the even smaller minority that thought the 2nd was easily the best out of them. Loved the first, 2nd is one of my fav books and the third I didn’t like at all. I think the 2nd book perfectly blended the political aspects of the world and still have some new things with the mistborn. Book three felt completely bonkers and I really disliked the direction of the ruin and preservation story line
The gold foiling on the sanderson leatherbounds comes off if you so much as look at it too hard in my experience. I'd prefer like a gold colored acrylic inlay or something over thinly stretched gold paint barely sticking to the leather. The bonded leather is also not very quality compared to genuine leather, but the way of kings is the only one with genuine leather.
I’ve only read Prince of Thorns. But I thought it was a great book because of his beautifully lyrical style. Even if I find his characters despicable, his stuff still deserves to be read.
Petrik's right about the Witcher books The short stories are alright, but the novels aren't that good. You're both wrong about The Lord of the Rings lol. The Realm of the Elderlings comment had to be trolling - no reasonable human being would make such a statement. Fun video! Always happy to see Salty Petrik haha
I think the real unpopular opinion is liking Tom Bombadill and I really do. I don't think he's mysterious. I mean in a way, I guess, but I like how silly and interesting he is. Also I'd say I like the books and the movies for LOTR equally. The movies made me love LOTR then I read the books and although it took me a little while to read them I loved going through the long journey with all of the characters (and reading more about Ents). I really liked Pippin and Merry a lot more because of the books. I disliked Boromir. Loved Aragorn, probably more because of the books. And I liked Legolas in the movies but didn't really care for him a lot in the books, but loved his dynamic with Gimli and I love Gimli equally in the movies and the books. The books have a lot more to them so I love them a lot but the movies bring the drama and intensity which is probably why people like them more. It was hard to read through the descriptions but I didn't dislike the descriptions, just made me grow respect for Tolkien and his ability to describe (everything lol). Also I just started Assassin's Apprentice and I'm very excited to go through the book and the entire series. I'm like 30 pages in and it felt oddly cozy because of the atmosphere she paints. I'm very excited to read the whole Realm of the Elderlings. So I'm glad you guys really like it and it seems to be a common opinion so I hope I feel the same.
I like Tom Bombadill, but I don't like that the plot is stopped in it's tracks to have him in the book. He would have worked better in his own story than in a massive epic that already had major pacing issues.
Great work, guys. I think that the problem with the Broken Binding is that, at that price point I expect acid-free paper and sewn bindings. And with the broken binding it’s not always the case
Yeah, they don't feel that much different from a Waterstones exclusive, and it might mostly just be a smaller company making a smaller amount of them, which makes the cost for each book higher. And fair, but I personally would much prefer to spend more money for nicer paper, than a bit more of a robust dust cover. How I feel about binding moves around a lot, it's more a matter of, I like when the book isn't stiff to hold open, and you can achieve or fail to achieve that with both sewn and glued binding.
Hahaha this was everything I didn't know I needed 🤣🤣 Sorry for the shocker btw. Clarification: I don't like the outside aesthetic of any leatherbound edition, they just look like ugly old stuffy books to me and I don't want them on my shelves. I am 100% certain that the insides of Sanderson's special editions are well worth it, those illustrations are just drool-worthy! Hope I was able to redeem myself here hahahah 🤣
I don't like when they put those bumps on the spine. They were original on books because the string used to bind the pages just shook out like that, but the ones on newer books are usually just there as an aesthetic choice. I'm just not into it.
Wheel of Time: I thought that some of the middle books have excessive descriptions of dresses, etc. But the first 3 or 4, and the last 3, are really good. Thew first and last are the best.
It's wierd cause I want people to like The Witcher books (I'm from Poland), but I also DNFed series after Blood of the Elves. Short stories are great btw.
Subterranean Press needs to be called out. 250-300 dollars for a book? Come on. But it might be actually fine, because you cannot buy it anyway, since it is always sold in seconds, haha
Hard agree with Tor's novella prices! I love Murderbot, but will only get them when there is a sale. otherwise, I use the library for them because I just can't justify the cost!
Are booktubers who earn hundreds of $'s monthly through Patreon, Google Ad, Buy Me a Coffee, sponsorships, and affiliate links and who on top of that receive many of their books for free from publishers and fans, really the right people to judge whether books/special editions are too expensive for what you get? The statement "they are really affordable" is rather subjective when you don't get 10 free books every month, next to a nice cash injection. I'm not complaining or judging btw, love both booktubers and watch every single video of them (besides the book reviews of books I haven't read). I just think most viewers are living in a different world when it comes to buying books. The georgeous Juniper collection of Wheel of Time costs a whopping 1000$ for example. Malazan by BB will also be massive. One the one hand it's understandable, lot of people are involved and everyone wants a nice profit, but to term it "really affordable" does not apply I think.
Great video, Subscribed :) . I'm kind of finding myself agreeing on the realm of the elderlings point, although Fitz wasn't a bad character, I loved his and Night Eyes relationship. That last book Assassins Quest was a slog, I almost DNF a couple times and its conclusion didn't go it for me at all. So much so that I haven't tried another Robin Hobb book!
One thing I would say about the Lord of the RIngs book series is the value of Tolkien being a pioneer. While there were high-adventure stories and endless mythologies before, the LotR world was the first real, fleshed out high fantasy world, and we all know the lengths to which Tolkien went to develop it. The films satisfied a different hunger, and they definitely couldn't have existed WITHOUT the books. Imagine some writer/director/SFX team just making the LotR series out of nothing. I wager it would be nearly impossible.
I read quite a few comments from those that do not like one of my all time favorites, Malazan Book of the Fallen, I am in the middle of reading it a 4th time
I have to agree about RotE. Fitz is blah, and Farseer was so dull. I was loving Liveship Traders until near the end, then it completely fell apart. I can't continue past that.
This came up as a recommendation. The first thing I saw was what I thought was a Jade Legacy bash and I was "Stone The Heretics". LOL, not really🙂. Great video
Sapkowski (in the Witcher books) is really good at writing individual scenes. So many moments of the books that you read and are like "yea that was badass". But unfortunately he's not the best at stitching scenes together into a cohesive body. I think that's why a lot of folks don't end up liking the books.
I AM SHOCKED. I had to pause the video to write this comment about LotR I think I understand where people are coming from when they say the books are too long and too hard to get through However where I disagree is when you said the films invoked more emotion. I found myself crying on so many occasions in the books, especially the third. Also, the 2nd book is my personal fav of the three and that movie is the worst one I feel like they spent a lil too long in fight scenes in the movie, which understandably is what people want to see, but as someone who cares about the lore + strategy far more than the actual wars themselves I found the books way more interesting
I once accidentally bought a leatherbound book from the internet and then couldn’t even touch it, because leather. Real leather. Heck no. That would be my issue with those.
I actually agree with the opinion about the Farseer trilogy. I despise Fitz, and there are SO many plot holes. I ended up rage quitting after book two. Fantastic characterization can only make up for an unlikable MC and crappy plot for so long.
I read mist born and didn’t understand what was happening the entire time. Which is weird the only other time this has happened was when I recently read the court of thorns and roses which was too slow paced for me to care
Well, I agree with Wheel of Time take. The series bored me a lot. The Witcher is specific - it really shows the time and place it was written 1980s-1990s Poland and as someone who partly remember that times, well, mainly the 90s, well, I can say that the book series was something very different in the landscape of fantasy and sf in this part of the world and in Poland in particular. Also, lots of stuff and nuances was simply lost in English translation. PS. Another comment hopefully later. Making a lunch right now.
I read almost 200 pages of Assassin's Apprentice and am convinced it was written to put me to sleep. It was unbelievably boring and Fitz annoyed the hell out of me 😂
about the witcher, there are 2 starts aka 2 first books first first book: "The Last Wish", which is a collection of short stories that lays down the foundation, and its not the best out of the short stories collections, that is the second one "Sword of destiny" second first book: "Blood of Elves", which is the first book of the 5 books saga aka the 3rd book in the series chronologically and this is not the best out of the saga that is either "Time of Contempt" or "Baptism of fire" I don't know what first book you are referring to, the confusion is there cuz orbit published "Blood of Elves" as the first book in the series
Great video! Of course this stuff is all subjective… but I have to say I didn’t like Mistborn era 1, I thought book 1 was ok though. I did enjoy the LotR films more than the books. Realm of the Elderlings is a masterpiece. And I like Mark Lawrence a lot! I do think SOME epic fantasy books are a bit too long - but I wouldn’t say they all are. Haven’t read the others in the video. Happy reading everyone! 😊
Another comment by me: Mistborn era 1 is good and surprisingly coherent story. I can't properly get into Mistborn era 2 though. Long, huge books series can be both very immersive and very boring. There is a serious under representation of short stories, novellas, short series and stand alones. My finances and me cannot afford too much book commitment per year 😂 Also both book and movie LOTR trilogies are great in their own rights. 'Babel' is a boring crossover of a novel, an academic book and socio-political manifesto. Had problems with finishing it.
Sanderson’s leatherbounds are made to be read and are 100% worth it for reading. But…… as a fan of classic fantasy covers, I also understand where they are coming from (I think I mentioned that in a video of mine once somewhere) In the end, we cannot display every book by their cover, and the standardization of the leatherbounds make them beautiful editions to a collection that stand out even on their spines. Soooo…… I think I understand what they were saying, but still disagree with them. Great video guys!
For books that are meant to be read, they sure do fall apart at the lightest touch. Idk if I just got a bad copy or if the world wants to gaslight me over this, but I can follow all recommendations to the letter, and the foiling on my sanderson leatherbound comes off even without me touching it. My Barnes and noble leatherbounds for half the price don't suffer this problem, and my Easton Press books have actual gold inlay and are still less expensive and never fall apart.
@@jacobstates8227 I saw the warning about the foil, but I honestly haven’t had an issue yet. My foil definitely hasn’t fallen off just sitting on the shelf, but I have not done a full read through with my copy. Maybe it would fall off with greater handling?
I think you'd feel differently about LOTR if you read the books first. The movies were well done, but I was disappointed the first time I saw fellowship. The movie had a very different feel from the book that might not come through the same way if you watch the movies first.
My unpopular opinion...A Song of Ice and Fire is overrated. It's good, but it's not great. Not to mention, it's been twelve years since he bothered to publish a book in the series, and I consider it unlikely that he'll finish the final two books before he expires, or I do.
I've just finished the Wheel of Time book 8 hours ago. Like a lot people say, this book was weak, to say the least. It's just empty. There is nothing in this book. A lot of Nynaeve, a lot of whining, nothing moving anywhere. But at least it was 'short'.
Hi there Library of a Viking and Petrik. How are you both doing? You two are hilarious. Thanks for entertaining me so well. I do agree with you about the Witcher series. I had to DNF the first book, the Last Wish, because I not only fell asleep, but also I hated his portrayal of women. I was so offended. Also, I tried to listen to the first book of the Ancestor by Mark Lawrence, and I was not a fan of how he ended the first book, it was offensive. The beginning was well done, but I felt no inclination to start working on the other books in that series. I wanted to let you both know, that i am currently on chapter 19 of the audiobook version of the Final Empire Mistborn, by Brandon Sanderson. it is my second time in listening to the first 2 books in Mistborn era 1, and I am loving it so far. His world building and character work is amazing. I have never listened to the third book, I have no idea why, except that I got distracted by another book, but I am hoping to listen to it in full this time. I have also just started reading while listening to the first volume in the Full Metal Panic light novel series, which has been great. I am also working on listening to Go Tell The Bees That I am Gone by Diana Gabaldon, which has been awesome too. Also, about the Lord of the Rings movies vers the books. I love them both, but the movies I think portray women much better. J. R. R. Tolkien did not know what to do with, or how to write female characters.
I was so disappointed with the green bone saga. I read the first 2 books and was like "that's it?" It felt like I was reading a cheap kung fu movie at times. I just didn't care one bit about the characters, Hilo was really good, but every body else could have died and I would not have cared. Although I was upset about Lan. Almost every character outside of the Kaul family was one dimensional other than a few exceptions of course. It took me forever to finish Jade War. When people mentioned to me that legacy was much slower than the other two, I decided not to finish the series. I see the appeal, but don't get the hype. I love slow burn stories, deep character development and political machinations, but the whole thing felt forced. I feel like my opinion on it is harsh but the disappointment after getting so hyped for it was crushing. Also reevaluating LotR right now with the audiobooks, and I think I appreciate them even more as an adult that the first time I read them 20 years ago. I think were so used to the fast-paced, high-action books than we don't appreciate slower reads like LotR anymore. Obviously, its a bit of a generalization, but I do find myself sometimes struggling with such reads after having read so many intense, short reads. As for Babel, I think we need more books like it. The originality, the explorations, etc. Its not a perfect book but having experienced a lot of discrimination based on language where I live, it was really awesome to read a book focusing on those aspects.
20:25 People are already complaining about MCU fatigue right now, imagine that with a Cosmere live action series. You all will hate Cosmere at the end. 🤣
I keep hearing lotr movies are better than the books...and i didn't like the movies😅(found them all kinda boring, and im a big fan of Elijah Wood, think hes a great actor) so i guess i wont read the books?
One way LOTR movies are better than the books is the music. LOTR movies' music is genius simply put and I don't think any of us is a musical genius than can come up with a score while reading a book
Fonda Lee’s writing style is 100% exposition and 0% narration. This makes for a maddening reading experience, particularly in “Jade War” with all the political mambo-Jambo. And can we please stop putting the words Jade Saga and The Godfather in the same sentence? There is really nothing to compare here.
You booktubers really need to pick up LOTR again. Daniel Greene also said he has not read it in forever. I have recently started reading it to my kids and it makes every modern fantasy book feel like a cheap knock off by comparison. I am really searching for something that can match it, there has to be a fantasy book out there that is better, but I have not found it yet. There are plenty of modern fantasy books that surpass LOTR in one way or another, but nothing that uses the prose/diction so effectively to put you in another world in a way that is so seamlessly intriguing. Tolkien is to words, as Rembrandt is to paint. He paints the perfect amount of detail to allow room for your imagination and wonder to run into all of the vaguely defined dark places of his world, and then he slams down the heavy impasto of his glittering focal point.
LTR movies are better???? Noooooooooooooo, that is an ofense to Tolkien, the movies are great but the books are perfect, beautiful, so amazing....just noooooooo
Fitz doesn't suck, he's written like a real human being who is flawed and has gone through so much, he feels so real. Yes he can be dense and stupid at times, but in the farseer books, he's just a boy.
Stormlight Archive gets worse after the second book. They are still good but not even the first 2. 5-5-4-3 stars in order The first book of WOT is BORING. If ı wasn`t listening to it i would dnf but audiobook saved it for me. 2 stars Red Rising is much better than Golden Son and the last book. 4-3-3 stars The Last Empire is very good but the other two were kinda meh. Really liked the ending tho. 4-3-3 stars Farseer Trilogy was too slow and depressing. It was good overall but wasn`t enough to make me want to continue. 3-3-3 stars Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy was mid. 2 stars Hobbit like the eye of the world is boring audio saved it. 2 stars First Law has great charecters but the plot is barely there. 3-3-3 stars Small Gods is not that good 1 star Elantris is really good 4 stars The Lies of Locke Lamora is good but not great 3 stars Kinda random but Jaws is not a horror 3 stars Narnia is for kids kinda obvious but whatever 2 stars You can probably make another video just from this comment lmao
I'm also not into leather bound books. It's not the price, the price is alright for the quality, it's the resources. Leather has quite the co2 footprint, plus the water/food intake and methane output while the cattle is growing. It seems so unnecessary, as the story doesn’t change from any old banged up library book. Maybe if it was the artificial "leather" made from pineapple I'd be game, because they do look awesome.
The show is just a bit of a hot mess, the books are various degrees of problematic, misogynistic and some parts are violent for the sake of glorifying violence. The games are good they say, never tried myself
His simple prose doesn't bother me. I just can't stand the subset of sanderson fans who turned into a cult by making sanderson fandom a personality trait.
Spoilers ahead for those two want to read Stormlight: I think Sanderson deliberately taps into an audience that makes *reading* their entire personality trait. Likewise, he also seems to like the idea of being a “writer” more than actually telling a story. The self-indulgence is unbearable for me. I second jacobstates’ opinion: the way his fans (and Booktube at large) try to perennially promulgate this idea that his novels are the best thing since sliced bread (quite zealously, I might add) is ridiculously out of proportion. I read through the first two novels in the Stormlight Archive and tentatively thought that they were okay but not great - but I hadn’t dared to imagine that a book could suffer from feature creep (of all things) until I encountered Oathbringer. When Sanderson decided that all of Bridge Four gets magical powers, offering some half-baked explanation for it and we’re supposed to roll with it was the last straw.
@Kris9kris I love the mistborn trilogy. But yeah, I read way of kings and it was just okay. Kaladin was kind of a Mary Sue. P.S. I stopped reading in time, but you may want to edit your comment because it sounded like it was about to be spoilery.
Wheel of Time is the most over-rated series? *cackle* Admittedly, it is mediocre at best, and it should have stopped after the second book, but have you ever read Marcel Proust's Rememberance of Things Past? Gads, it's awful. Not Finnegan's Wake awful (if that were a series, it would win), but very, very over-rated and like luke-warm soup that has started to spoil. Proust is trash. Jordan is nowhere near as boring or insipid.
I would probably agree with Mike if my introduction was the horde of rothfuss fans online overhyping it. However for me it was one of my first fantasy books because it's my mother's favorite, and I wanted to read it. I thought the writing was beautiful, but even still Kvothe is a Mary Sue 🤣. I gave it 4 stars.
Thank you for inviting me! It was really fun to chat about these with you, Johan!
Thank you so much for joining!
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This was amazing! ❤
I adoreTom Bombadil. He brought peace and silliness to a serious part of the book. Also, that is the last time the Hobbits get a chance to rest until Rivendell and Lothlorien. Tom shows hospitality and beauty to the very shocked hobbits.
People who complain about Fitz don’t realize where he came from, arriving at the very young age of approximately 5 yrs of age and then no one really teaching him anything about being a human. I really could relate to him, having to teach yourself about relationships and emotions etc.
Omg, the LOTR take was sacrilegious 😂
hehehehe
It is so great to hear someone else talk about how the first Mistborn book was amazing but the other two fell flat!! I thought I was the only 1 who saw it!
I’m in the even smaller minority that thought the 2nd was easily the best out of them. Loved the first, 2nd is one of my fav books and the third I didn’t like at all. I think the 2nd book perfectly blended the political aspects of the world and still have some new things with the mistborn. Book three felt completely bonkers and I really disliked the direction of the ruin and preservation story line
It's so nice seeing two of my favorite booktubers chatting!
Yay, thank you!
The gold foiling on the sanderson leatherbounds comes off if you so much as look at it too hard in my experience. I'd prefer like a gold colored acrylic inlay or something over thinly stretched gold paint barely sticking to the leather. The bonded leather is also not very quality compared to genuine leather, but the way of kings is the only one with genuine leather.
Mark Lawrence is consistently outstanding. No one else reaches his level of poetic lyricism, unbounded creativity, and thematic depth.
I’ve only read Prince of Thorns. But I thought it was a great book because of his beautifully lyrical style. Even if I find his characters despicable, his stuff still deserves to be read.
Petrik's right about the Witcher books The short stories are alright, but the novels aren't that good. You're both wrong about The Lord of the Rings lol. The Realm of the Elderlings comment had to be trolling - no reasonable human being would make such a statement. Fun video! Always happy to see Salty Petrik haha
Specific Cosmere could be live action but there is so much magic flying around in some that the ammount of CGI would make it silly.
A Salty Petrik, makes my day!!! Thank you👍🏼
It makes everyone's day ahah
I think the real unpopular opinion is liking Tom Bombadill and I really do. I don't think he's mysterious. I mean in a way, I guess, but I like how silly and interesting he is. Also I'd say I like the books and the movies for LOTR equally. The movies made me love LOTR then I read the books and although it took me a little while to read them I loved going through the long journey with all of the characters (and reading more about Ents). I really liked Pippin and Merry a lot more because of the books. I disliked Boromir. Loved Aragorn, probably more because of the books. And I liked Legolas in the movies but didn't really care for him a lot in the books, but loved his dynamic with Gimli and I love Gimli equally in the movies and the books. The books have a lot more to them so I love them a lot but the movies bring the drama and intensity which is probably why people like them more. It was hard to read through the descriptions but I didn't dislike the descriptions, just made me grow respect for Tolkien and his ability to describe (everything lol).
Also I just started Assassin's Apprentice and I'm very excited to go through the book and the entire series. I'm like 30 pages in and it felt oddly cozy because of the atmosphere she paints. I'm very excited to read the whole Realm of the Elderlings. So I'm glad you guys really like it and it seems to be a common opinion so I hope I feel the same.
I like Tom Bombadill, but I don't like that the plot is stopped in it's tracks to have him in the book. He would have worked better in his own story than in a massive epic that already had major pacing issues.
Great work, guys.
I think that the problem with the Broken Binding is that, at that price point I expect acid-free paper and sewn bindings. And with the broken binding it’s not always the case
Yeah, they don't feel that much different from a Waterstones exclusive, and it might mostly just be a smaller company making a smaller amount of them, which makes the cost for each book higher. And fair, but I personally would much prefer to spend more money for nicer paper, than a bit more of a robust dust cover.
How I feel about binding moves around a lot, it's more a matter of, I like when the book isn't stiff to hold open, and you can achieve or fail to achieve that with both sewn and glued binding.
Hahaha this was everything I didn't know I needed 🤣🤣
Sorry for the shocker btw. Clarification: I don't like the outside aesthetic of any leatherbound edition, they just look like ugly old stuffy books to me and I don't want them on my shelves. I am 100% certain that the insides of Sanderson's special editions are well worth it, those illustrations are just drool-worthy! Hope I was able to redeem myself here hahahah 🤣
I don't like when they put those bumps on the spine. They were original on books because the string used to bind the pages just shook out like that, but the ones on newer books are usually just there as an aesthetic choice. I'm just not into it.
Wheel of Time: I thought that some of the middle books have excessive descriptions of dresses, etc. But the first 3 or 4, and the last 3, are really good. Thew first and last are the best.
AHHHH A VIDEO WITH MY TWO FAV BOOKTUBERS!!!!
This was so much fun!!!
Hopefully we'll get more of you two doing videos together 😄👌
WHO made those comments about Realm of the Elderlings and Fitz????? I need a word!
You guys were awsome together. Loved this episode.
It's wierd cause I want people to like The Witcher books (I'm from Poland), but I also DNFed series after Blood of the Elves. Short stories are great btw.
It was such a joy to hear both of you giggling about these so much 😊
Subterranean Press needs to be called out. 250-300 dollars for a book? Come on. But it might be actually fine, because you cannot buy it anyway, since it is always sold in seconds, haha
Love Petrik coming in hard to defend Jade Legacy 😂
Hard agree with Tor's novella prices! I love Murderbot, but will only get them when there is a sale. otherwise, I use the library for them because I just can't justify the cost!
Yup! The price points are insane!
Are booktubers who earn hundreds of $'s monthly through Patreon, Google Ad, Buy Me a Coffee, sponsorships, and affiliate links and who on top of that receive many of their books for free from publishers and fans, really the right people to judge whether books/special editions are too expensive for what you get? The statement "they are really affordable" is rather subjective when you don't get 10 free books every month, next to a nice cash injection.
I'm not complaining or judging btw, love both booktubers and watch every single video of them (besides the book reviews of books I haven't read). I just think most viewers are living in a different world when it comes to buying books. The georgeous Juniper collection of Wheel of Time costs a whopping 1000$ for example. Malazan by BB will also be massive. One the one hand it's understandable, lot of people are involved and everyone wants a nice profit, but to term it "really affordable" does not apply I think.
Great video, Subscribed :) . I'm kind of finding myself agreeing on the realm of the elderlings point, although Fitz wasn't a bad character, I loved his and Night Eyes relationship. That last book Assassins Quest was a slog, I almost DNF a couple times and its conclusion didn't go it for me at all. So much so that I haven't tried another Robin Hobb book!
Thank you! I adore Nighteyes and Fitz!
One thing I would say about the Lord of the RIngs book series is the value of Tolkien being a pioneer. While there were high-adventure stories and endless mythologies before, the LotR world was the first real, fleshed out high fantasy world, and we all know the lengths to which Tolkien went to develop it. The films satisfied a different hunger, and they definitely couldn't have existed WITHOUT the books. Imagine some writer/director/SFX team just making the LotR series out of nothing. I wager it would be nearly impossible.
Starting Abercrombies The Blade Itself right now. I hope I agree with your opinions 😂
I read quite a few comments from those that do not like one of my all time favorites, Malazan Book of the Fallen, I am in the middle of reading it a 4th time
I swear Petrik Leo is just the greatest whenever he gets slightly mad. All salty Petrik videos are so incredibly funny
A high production value SLA animated series would probably be the best anime/cartoon ever released.
I have to agree about RotE. Fitz is blah, and Farseer was so dull. I was loving Liveship Traders until near the end, then it completely fell apart. I can't continue past that.
This came up as a recommendation. The first thing I saw was what I thought was a Jade Legacy bash and I was "Stone The Heretics". LOL, not really🙂. Great video
Sapkowski (in the Witcher books) is really good at writing individual scenes. So many moments of the books that you read and are like "yea that was badass". But unfortunately he's not the best at stitching scenes together into a cohesive body. I think that's why a lot of folks don't end up liking the books.
I AM SHOCKED. I had to pause the video to write this comment about LotR
I think I understand where people are coming from when they say the books are too long and too hard to get through
However where I disagree is when you said the films invoked more emotion. I found myself crying on so many occasions in the books, especially the third. Also, the 2nd book is my personal fav of the three and that movie is the worst one
I feel like they spent a lil too long in fight scenes in the movie, which understandably is what people want to see, but as someone who cares about the lore + strategy far more than the actual wars themselves I found the books way more interesting
I with @PetrikLeo, I hated the Tom Bombadil character. The character twice made me stop reading the LotR. I was glad he got cut from the films.
Matt and the BB team are very well priced.
Really enjoyed the video. Made me laugh 😂… happy reading to you!! 🎉
I once accidentally bought a leatherbound book from the internet and then couldn’t even touch it, because leather. Real leather. Heck no. That would be my issue with those.
I just got t. Kingfishers new novella thornhedge it was way to expensive. So I agree about the tor prices
I would not watch an animated cosmere. I agree with that one
I actually agree with the opinion about the Farseer trilogy. I despise Fitz, and there are SO many plot holes. I ended up rage quitting after book two. Fantastic characterization can only make up for an unlikable MC and crappy plot for so long.
I read mist born and didn’t understand what was happening the entire time. Which is weird the only other time this has happened was when I recently read the court of thorns and roses which was too slow paced for me to care
Well, I agree with Wheel of Time take. The series bored me a lot. The Witcher is specific - it really shows the time and place it was written 1980s-1990s Poland and as someone who partly remember that times, well, mainly the 90s, well, I can say that the book series was something very different in the landscape of fantasy and sf in this part of the world and in Poland in particular. Also, lots of stuff and nuances was simply lost in English translation. PS. Another comment hopefully later. Making a lunch right now.
I read almost 200 pages of Assassin's Apprentice and am convinced it was written to put me to sleep. It was unbelievably boring and Fitz annoyed the hell out of me 😂
about the witcher, there are 2 starts aka 2 first books
first first book: "The Last Wish", which is a collection of short stories that lays down the foundation, and its not the best out of the short stories collections, that is the second one "Sword of destiny"
second first book: "Blood of Elves", which is the first book of the 5 books saga aka the 3rd book in the series chronologically and this is not the best out of the saga that is either "Time of Contempt" or "Baptism of fire"
I don't know what first book you are referring to, the confusion is there cuz orbit published "Blood of Elves" as the first book in the series
Another fantastic video!!! Thank you!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Calling Babel a text book in languages is an insult to textbooks.
Great video! Of course this stuff is all subjective… but I have to say I didn’t like Mistborn era 1, I thought book 1 was ok though. I did enjoy the LotR films more than the books. Realm of the Elderlings is a masterpiece. And I like Mark Lawrence a lot! I do think SOME epic fantasy books are a bit too long - but I wouldn’t say they all are. Haven’t read the others in the video.
Happy reading everyone! 😊
Another comment by me: Mistborn era 1 is good and surprisingly coherent story. I can't properly get into Mistborn era 2 though. Long, huge books series can be both very immersive and very boring. There is a serious under representation of short stories, novellas, short series and stand alones. My finances and me cannot afford too much book commitment per year 😂 Also both book and movie LOTR trilogies are great in their own rights. 'Babel' is a boring crossover of a novel, an academic book and socio-political manifesto. Had problems with finishing it.
Sanderson’s leatherbounds are made to be read and are 100% worth it for reading. But…… as a fan of classic fantasy covers, I also understand where they are coming from (I think I mentioned that in a video of mine once somewhere)
In the end, we cannot display every book by their cover, and the standardization of the leatherbounds make them beautiful editions to a collection that stand out even on their spines. Soooo…… I think I understand what they were saying, but still disagree with them.
Great video guys!
For books that are meant to be read, they sure do fall apart at the lightest touch. Idk if I just got a bad copy or if the world wants to gaslight me over this, but I can follow all recommendations to the letter, and the foiling on my sanderson leatherbound comes off even without me touching it. My Barnes and noble leatherbounds for half the price don't suffer this problem, and my Easton Press books have actual gold inlay and are still less expensive and never fall apart.
@@jacobstates8227 I saw the warning about the foil, but I honestly haven’t had an issue yet. My foil definitely hasn’t fallen off just sitting on the shelf, but I have not done a full read through with my copy. Maybe it would fall off with greater handling?
Please make a video on Packaged Milk krish.
You are simply Awesome. Thank You.
Loved this 😊❤
I think you'd feel differently about LOTR if you read the books first. The movies were well done, but I was disappointed the first time I saw fellowship. The movie had a very different feel from the book that might not come through the same way if you watch the movies first.
My unpopular opinion...A Song of Ice and Fire is overrated. It's good, but it's not great. Not to mention, it's been twelve years since he bothered to publish a book in the series, and I consider it unlikely that he'll finish the final two books before he expires, or I do.
I've just finished the Wheel of Time book 8 hours ago. Like a lot people say, this book was weak, to say the least. It's just empty. There is nothing in this book. A lot of Nynaeve, a lot of whining, nothing moving anywhere. But at least it was 'short'.
What a blast! Super fun video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi there Library of a Viking and Petrik. How are you both doing? You two are hilarious. Thanks for entertaining me so well. I do agree with you about the Witcher series. I had to DNF the first book, the Last Wish, because I not only fell asleep, but also I hated his portrayal of women. I was so offended. Also, I tried to listen to the first book of the Ancestor by Mark Lawrence, and I was not a fan of how he ended the first book, it was offensive. The beginning was well done, but I felt no inclination to start working on the other books in that series. I wanted to let you both know, that i am currently on chapter 19 of the audiobook version of the Final Empire Mistborn, by Brandon Sanderson. it is my second time in listening to the first 2 books in Mistborn era 1, and I am loving it so far. His world building and character work is amazing. I have never listened to the third book, I have no idea why, except that I got distracted by another book, but I am hoping to listen to it in full this time. I have also just started reading while listening to the first volume in the Full Metal Panic light novel series, which has been great. I am also working on listening to Go Tell The Bees That I am Gone by Diana Gabaldon, which has been awesome too. Also, about the Lord of the Rings movies vers the books. I love them both, but the movies I think portray women much better. J. R. R. Tolkien did not know what to do with, or how to write female characters.
I was so disappointed with the green bone saga. I read the first 2 books and was like "that's it?" It felt like I was reading a cheap kung fu movie at times. I just didn't care one bit about the characters, Hilo was really good, but every body else could have died and I would not have cared. Although I was upset about Lan. Almost every character outside of the Kaul family was one dimensional other than a few exceptions of course. It took me forever to finish Jade War. When people mentioned to me that legacy was much slower than the other two, I decided not to finish the series. I see the appeal, but don't get the hype. I love slow burn stories, deep character development and political machinations, but the whole thing felt forced.
I feel like my opinion on it is harsh but the disappointment after getting so hyped for it was crushing. Also reevaluating LotR right now with the audiobooks, and I think I appreciate them even more as an adult that the first time I read them 20 years ago. I think were so used to the fast-paced, high-action books than we don't appreciate slower reads like LotR anymore. Obviously, its a bit of a generalization, but I do find myself sometimes struggling with such reads after having read so many intense, short reads.
As for Babel, I think we need more books like it. The originality, the explorations, etc. Its not a perfect book but having experienced a lot of discrimination based on language where I live, it was really awesome to read a book focusing on those aspects.
this was fun 💖
That Witcher take is actually respectable because the books, other than a few of the short stories and Baptism of Fire, are not very good.
20:25 People are already complaining about MCU fatigue right now, imagine that with a Cosmere live action series. You all will hate Cosmere at the end. 🤣
I keep hearing lotr movies are better than the books...and i didn't like the movies😅(found them all kinda boring, and im a big fan of Elijah Wood, think hes a great actor) so i guess i wont read the books?
One way LOTR movies are better than the books is the music. LOTR movies' music is genius simply put and I don't think any of us is a musical genius than can come up with a score while reading a book
Howard Shore is an absolute legend.
I found Jade War at my dollar store for a 1.25 😂
Fonda Lee’s writing style is 100% exposition and 0% narration. This makes for a maddening reading experience, particularly in “Jade War” with all the political mambo-Jambo. And can we please stop putting the words Jade Saga and The Godfather in the same sentence? There is really nothing to compare here.
Damn these unpopular opinions are sooo bad and they are sooo wrong. 😂
You booktubers really need to pick up LOTR again. Daniel Greene also said he has not read it in forever.
I have recently started reading it to my kids and it makes every modern fantasy book feel like a cheap knock off by comparison. I am really searching for something that can match it, there has to be a fantasy book out there that is better, but I have not found it yet.
There are plenty of modern fantasy books that surpass LOTR in one way or another, but nothing that uses the prose/diction so effectively to put you in another world in a way that is so seamlessly intriguing. Tolkien is to words, as Rembrandt is to paint. He paints the perfect amount of detail to allow room for your imagination and wonder to run into all of the vaguely defined dark places of his world, and then he slams down the heavy impasto of his glittering focal point.
LTR movies are better???? Noooooooooooooo, that is an ofense to Tolkien, the movies are great but the books are perfect, beautiful, so amazing....just noooooooo
I disagree with Wheel of Time being the most overrated series ever, King killer Chronicles is
Who should I invite next? 👀
I've been watching some of William Gwynne's booktube videos lately, so maybe I'm biased, but I feel like you'd have a fun time doing this with him!
I'd like to see Bookborn and/or Liene here (if they would agree to it).
Obviously the Goblin
Sufficiently Advanced Lena or Matt's Fantasy Book Reviews?
Fitz DO suck as a character. That said the series is amazing but I prefer The Liveship Traders and the Rain Wild Chronicles to The Farseer books.
Fitz doesn't suck, he's written like a real human being who is flawed and has gone through so much, he feels so real. Yes he can be dense and stupid at times, but in the farseer books, he's just a boy.
Stormlight Archive gets worse after the second book. They are still good but not even the first 2. 5-5-4-3 stars in order
The first book of WOT is BORING. If ı wasn`t listening to it i would dnf but audiobook saved it for me. 2 stars
Red Rising is much better than Golden Son and the last book. 4-3-3 stars
The Last Empire is very good but the other two were kinda meh. Really liked the ending tho. 4-3-3 stars
Farseer Trilogy was too slow and depressing. It was good overall but wasn`t enough to make me want to continue. 3-3-3 stars
Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy was mid. 2 stars
Hobbit like the eye of the world is boring audio saved it. 2 stars
First Law has great charecters but the plot is barely there. 3-3-3 stars
Small Gods is not that good 1 star
Elantris is really good 4 stars
The Lies of Locke Lamora is good but not great 3 stars
Kinda random but Jaws is not a horror 3 stars
Narnia is for kids kinda obvious but whatever 2 stars
You can probably make another video just from this comment lmao
Bro what do you like
@@nyelbaig I love the Faithful and the Fallen , Cradle snd Stormlight. these are my 5*5s. 3 means I liked the book btw. I have a lot of 4s aswell
I still think Fitz sucks XD XD. But great video
Witcher 3 with all its expansions is the best game ever and yeah tv show sucks and i didn't like short stories either so didn't continue further.
I'm also not into leather bound books. It's not the price, the price is alright for the quality, it's the resources. Leather has quite the co2 footprint, plus the water/food intake and methane output while the cattle is growing. It seems so unnecessary, as the story doesn’t change from any old banged up library book. Maybe if it was the artificial "leather" made from pineapple I'd be game, because they do look awesome.
I like the Witcher show and don’t want to read the book
The show is just a bit of a hot mess, the books are various degrees of problematic, misogynistic and some parts are violent for the sake of glorifying violence. The games are good they say, never tried myself
Well Sanderson in general is overrated. His prose is overall bad.
His simple prose doesn't bother me. I just can't stand the subset of sanderson fans who turned into a cult by making sanderson fandom a personality trait.
Spoilers ahead for those two want to read Stormlight:
I think Sanderson deliberately taps into an audience that makes *reading* their entire personality trait. Likewise, he also seems to like the idea of being a “writer” more than actually telling a story. The self-indulgence is unbearable for me. I second jacobstates’ opinion: the way his fans (and Booktube at large) try to perennially promulgate this idea that his novels are the best thing since sliced bread (quite zealously, I might add) is ridiculously out of proportion. I read through the first two novels in the Stormlight Archive and tentatively thought that they were okay but not great - but I hadn’t dared to imagine that a book could suffer from feature creep (of all things) until I encountered Oathbringer. When Sanderson decided that all of Bridge Four gets magical powers, offering some half-baked explanation for it and we’re supposed to roll with it was the last straw.
@Kris9kris I love the mistborn trilogy. But yeah, I read way of kings and it was just okay. Kaladin was kind of a Mary Sue.
P.S. I stopped reading in time, but you may want to edit your comment because it sounded like it was about to be spoilery.
the green bone saga is overated
Wheel of Time is the most over-rated series? *cackle* Admittedly, it is mediocre at best, and it should have stopped after the second book, but have you ever read Marcel Proust's Rememberance of Things Past? Gads, it's awful. Not Finnegan's Wake awful (if that were a series, it would win), but very, very over-rated and like luke-warm soup that has started to spoil. Proust is trash. Jordan is nowhere near as boring or insipid.
I just read the final empire and didn't like it. The characters felt flat
Mistborn point is so true. Vin stinks Kelsier raw
Name of the Wind is poop.
Sounds like I need to invite you on the channel next 😂
I would probably agree with Mike if my introduction was the horde of rothfuss fans online overhyping it. However for me it was one of my first fantasy books because it's my mother's favorite, and I wanted to read it. I thought the writing was beautiful, but even still Kvothe is a Mary Sue 🤣. I gave it 4 stars.
@@libraryofaviking You just tell me where to sign, bubba.