Let's Talk About Necromancy
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Magic comes in all shapes and sizes and this one's got a bad rap for no real reason, honestly. Necromancy is fine. Everybody loves necromancy. Right? Right. Let's go with that.
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What's the hate towards necromancers? Can't a man raise a family in peace?
Right?!
@@ProperBird the last guy that did that he started a war for shit and giggles
Necromancers are power hungry and oppressive so the hate is justified.
XDDD Blessed be my friend blessed be. These fools no nothing of Shamanism and our origin
@@lkcdarzadix6216 Oh please... I would be so shocked if you could prove that my jaw would drop off, and I? Dead there and then...
"I will avenge the death of my brother! who's with me!?"
Dwarf: You have my axe!
Elf: You have my bow!
Necromancer: And your brother!
I know that reference.
@@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621What is the reference?
@@koteghe7600 the lord of the rings. when Gimli offers his help to Frodo he uses "you have my axe!" since it sounds more badass than "I want to go too". Legolas, not wanting the dwarf to best him, replied in a similar way by saing "and my bow!"
he made a parody of that scene by adding the necromancer "and your brother!" since what he wants to do is avenge the death of said brother.
I saw a similar joke once. the judge asks "do you have any witness?" and the lawyer answers with "yes. I call for the victim" raising the victim as a witness.
lets be real. having necromantic skills helps a lot to lawyers or the police.
Necromancy is a topic that would seem hard to bring life to, but this video was dead on. Thanks for another excellent one, and with that I'll see myself out...
I can't believe you've done this.
Dude that was good
I see what you did there 😏
My eyes rolled right out of my skull...
Rome: Our guys wear robes and funny hats and carry staves, but don’t you dare call them wizards!
As Bruce Campbell taught us in Army of Darkness, the army of the dead is only raised if you mispronounce the magic words while retrieving the Necronomicon. Klaatu! Verata! Nghbhaklsehbmbgh!
I actually put some Army of the Dead footage in here before but it got claimed REAL fast. :p
Necromancy is recycling. Reuse, Reanimate, Recycle.
Necromancers are nothing if not environmentally conscious.
@@ProperBird it’s using every part of your kill really. Just go to waste otherwise.
@@ProperBird at least until we figure out how to create an army of Oil Dinosaurs.
Be sure to master blood magic as well to make the most use out of your victims
@@eddiesmagiccookies5050And if possible, use the soul as well.
A necromancer is just a healer with bad time-managementskills
Except in d&d where poor time management as a necromancer gets you killed
A: Who's he summoning? Is he saying John?
B: I think he might be saying Shawn but if we send John, then he won't be where we are.
A: Good point.
Both: John, you're being summoned somewhere far, far, far away from here.
And it's VERY important you don't come back John.
You know it's a good day when Jinzee posts a new video! ^^
But Voodoo, or Vodun, zombies are not literaly corpses or skeletons. A Voodoo/Vodun zombie is a person that lost their soul to the priest that cast the curse upon them. They are enslaved, mindless husks but their bodies are still very much alive. Perhaps you should look into that and add that as a part 2?
Also, I think one of the main reasons why we see necromancy as raising corpses is Tolkien. LOTR has inspired generations since its first release, and Frodo and friends meet the Barrow Wights in the Barrow Downs. Walking corpses, skeletons, the dead of once proud Numenorian decent enslaved by the Witch King. I would say that is where many (even D&D) had the idea from.
I feel like doing necromancy every morning. It's pure magic that I am able to get out of bed with all the pain I'm feeling ._.
In compare to how other people wake up I'm like... my body is damaged and crippled and being raised from a death-like state.
Is it a coincidence that I barely got into MTG lore.....and that woman is the one that did it for me, she got a great story
It annoys me how many fictional worlds portrait necromancy and the undead as automatically evil.
I am a big proponent good and/or vengeful undead actually opposing the evil in the world of the living.
And damn Heroes of Might and Magic cutscenes and Final Fantasy 8 soundtrack, you're so lovely! Bless you!
I'm now remembering "Judgement Day" which was a Judge Dredd story in 2000AD when I was younger which was a pretty good read. In that one a Necromancer calling himself Sabbat the Necromagus raised every single corpse on the planet to create his army, killing over 3 billion people in the process.
There's also the "All That Remains" quest in Dragon Age 2 where the Necromancer was killing women with features similar to his dead wife so he cut use the appropriate bits to try and rebuild her body so he could resurect her.
And you've already covered Koudelka, so no need to go into detail there...
Necromancers have gained a pretty bad rep over the years, but at least they've give us some really interesting stories :)
I can't get over how funny and well done your bits / skits are ! You truly do have a knack for good story telling, been loving these videos Jinzee ! Also the Charmander in your background wanting to give a hug to Dettlaff is the cutest thing ever lol.
I genuinely didn't know Necromancy had so many nuances and well lore to it, you always do such a great job presenting the information that's both informative and enjoyable, amazing work as always Jinzee !
It's Regis but yes, Dettlaff could probably use a hug too. :p
This is basically the character design for the game I have developing for my business over the past few years.
I have always loved necromancy, and thought it would be interesting to have a "villain of good intentions" in a morally grey setting that would make players question if he is actually the villain or a hero willing to do whatever it takes to save everyone.
I do love your inclusion of Markal. He's the best necromancer. Ok, right after Sandro haha
The 3 elves holding a baby looking at Helgi shakong their heads one says :"bro come on"
*The Umbrella Corporation wants to know your location.*
Aw not again.
The undead army unionized! 😂🤣🤣 Good Lord, that’s hilarious! Always great to see you, Jinzee. Loved the costumes! “...he either wants the apocalypse or a grilled cheese.” LMAO!
Has anyone here (including @Proper Bird) heard of _The Locked Tomb_ books by Tamsyn Muir?
Currently, it consists of 'Gideon the Ninth', 'Harrow the Ninth' and very soon will also include 'Nona The Ninth'.
TV Tropes describes the series as _'Lesbian necromancers in space get tied into the fate of a galaxy-spanning empire.'_
Your videos are so good!!! I actually was watching a video you made ~5 years ago about Stardew valley, and decided to check out your channel. D&D stuff?? Cool talk about necromancy??? Yes please! Your vids are so informative, you're amazing. Thank you
The first act of necromancy are far older than you think. It was first practiced and "created" in ancient India. They use occult ,tantric,yogic practices to gain siddhis. One of the siddhis is necromancy . It predates several thousand years before your first mention. Yogic energy is magic. It predates Judaism and cananite religions in history. These practices were started in pre-vedic time. The source of these practices were in ancient Vedic traditions. Necromancy is/was a regular thing in vedic traditions which predates any known European traditions. Even before the Yamnya invasion in Europe. Believe it or not. These vedic practices are still followed in Asia. Magic was not originally created in Europe. The reason why roman, Greek,norse religions have similarities is because they are the local manifestation of ancient Vedic religion/traditions. Thor,Jupiter,Zeus came from the ancient major deity of Vedic times. Norse,Greek,roman pantheons are nothing but the local manifestation of vedic traditions. A little secret...Most Hindus practice necromancy aka calling upon the parents spirit on their death anniversary. They place their parents favourite food in a room --> call upon the parents spirit--> they leave the parents spirit and their favourite food in a locked room. After sometime they enter the room and the spirit will be gone. Some other Hindus would do rituals and place food on their terrace. Their dead loved one will come in the form of a crow and eat the food and leave. Still practiced to this day.
The funny party is the Catholic church openly prays to saints who are merely dead people for protection and guidance... which isn't in the bible. In the old testament if you prayed to anybody but God you'd be struck down, and in the new testament the only person Jesus prays to is God. The Catholic church also integrated a lot of pagan holidays and traditions into the church to make converting people easier so I guess some practices are just more acceptable than others.
How the hells do you look better in every video? Are you a witch who bathes in the blood of the innocent?
Aaaaanyway, love the video. One of my favourite topics.
this channel is so underated
You raised spirits today :O .
An no, coffee cant bring back even the dead, thats a myth! F in necromancy.
the odin joke must have to be the best counter diss im history
Im trying to summon the dead with my feminine magic XD
Great video
You have brilliant lore videos especially around the Witcher, you are very underrated keep up the good work
Thank you for studying necromancy for us and telling us all about it in this delightful video 🙆♀️
That better be ONE HELL of a Grilled Cheese!
If I was a necromancer, definitely be one that just solely has skeletal minions over zombies. Skellies are cool! ...not to mention less scary... probably cleaner...
And great for possible dog companions.
I'd imagine they don't smell as bad...
Which, considering a whole army, might even be of tactical use as well
definitely in Finland necromancy was just a thing that one does. but it was not pretty exactly, considering the dead would not return as spirits, but the corpse it self would rise up from the grave.
or one could ask help from the multitude of the lesser gods of death, decay, pain, diseases, and other nightmares, or from the darkness it self and his wife who gave birth to these lesser gods.
despite people living relatively normally in the underworld, it is not described as a fun place. some old poem describes it having oceans of blood and hanging corpses of beasts from which demons feast.
located beyond a black river which rapids were made of swords, and on which the bloody son of death guards the gates of the underworld, catching any fleeing souls in its iron nets and beating any living thing trying to enter into pieces with its burning sword.
it seems so absurdly over the top but I suppose this is what people believed before christianity showed up on these shores.
its like they fed deathcore to an AI and told it to come up with a religion.
Markal from Heroes V?....ah memories
Ohh I loved this breakdown of Necromancy... I learn some new stuff everyday!
11:30 is he a little... you know... "limp wristed"?🌈
There is also Taoist necromancy which uses yin energy (dark magic) to get rid of evil spirits while an influx of yang energy (light magic) will rise the dead into Jiangshi.
Doom bear rip and tear
Damn I hate it when accidental marriage to one's own daughter happens. So tricky and hard to avoid! 😭
Well, astrology is a bad thing 'til this day. The amount of people who take it as something more than a funny charlatanism is astonishing.
Well you were bound to think that given that both the Moon and Saturn have just passed through Capricornus the Sea Goat...
I also think the less said about what's about to happen with Uranus the better.
Awesome ! My favourite type of magic ! Les... I mean necromancy !
Close enough. 😂
Fred the necromaner, asking his dead cousin why he was such a tosser, before abruptly hanging up. Long story short his cousin returned as an angry wight and Fred needs your help.
Hey, Fred had it coming.
@@ProperBird nah, his brother was a tosser, it's his fault tbh.
My favourite youtuber with a video on my favourite school of magic? Yes!
Great channel awesome videos. Hello from Guyana South America
16:04 Sure there is. You're living in the past, man. You need to grieve your beloved departed and move on with your life. It's not healthy to want to speak with your dead relatives. And it's also not healthy to speak to the dead in general asking them for advice. Did you know people in the past used to be, like, racist and sexist and stuff? In larger numbers than today, that is. I ain't asking them for advice. It's bad enough I'm going to be seen in my old age as an anti-LGBT xenophobe for thinking people shouldn't marry aliens from Alpha Centauri. Marriage is a union between two or more humans or humans and androids, goddammit! >_
I just started BG3. Are you going to play? I don’t know if you play video games or not. I thought you did. Also read Six of Crows. She is a wonderful writer
Fucking John!
anytime I see Necromancy/Necromancer class I drop every other playable class and go straight Necromancy. Nothing is cooler than being able to summon the dead as your allies. Never needs to fed and always recouping losses.
In the game Summoner Necromancy is about healing ones wounds instead of raising the dead.
Hah! Death!
Works every time!
Until you go out of magicka
I love the idea of necromancy. I want to see it properly owned In a self serious story.
For Instance In videogames, skeletons are no big deal, but has anyone ever seriously thought what would go Into fighting a tireless, mindless, magically fueled being would be like? Now imagine its composed off little sticks that your sword just glances off of. Just saying lol
However I also like the idea of cultures and people becoming much more comfortable and accepting of death. It's not a dark or bad thing, just a thing. Death is necessary for life to be.
Blue Fields is inexplicably my favourite over world song. Something about it speaks to my curiosity
Methinks most fantasy settings don't get undeath and necromancy "right." (Well, right for me anyway.)
The undead have been so overused as mindless, evil and easily disposable fodder and necromancers as stereotypical cackling villains that it's hard to appreciate how equally nuanced and terrifying the whole concept is supposed to be.
For example, what if the undead like skeletons moved like the weeping angels (from Dr. Who) do and could, for example, invade someone's bone structure like The Thing from a mere bone fragment, turning people into more and more twisted, corrupted skeletons with uneven bone growths like spikes, horns, extra fingers, teeth and jaws everywhere?
What if the mere presence of undead creatures or necrotic energies immediately started to absorb one's lifeforce in bulk, to a degree where fighting a "mere" skeleton without the proper methodology and tools is an automatically lost battle because it uses YOUR lifeforce to resurrect again and again, shaving years off your lifespan in mere minutes.
What if there was a traveling necromancer who just helps people that have lost loved ones suddenly to say their final goodbyes to their spirits, ir helped the victims of murder name their assailants, and were mercilessly persecuted by some "holy" inquisition?
What if a necromancer happened upon a village that has had it's crops withered dye to a bad season, and they could use their magic to revitalize the crops BUT it requires a living sacrifice?
Or a village that will soon be attacked by bandits but they have no guards or proper militia (called to war maybe), but they do have a large crypt where they have buried their dead for decades or centuries even...
Or what about someone just studying necromancy for medicinal pursuits?
There's just so much potential there.
world war z
but medieval
@@RuSosan theres a lot of potential out there. I thought Dark Souls did a decent job of reworking the concept around. Hollows are just zombies. Also on DS2 and BB there are monsters composed of many bosses, almost like Castlevanias Legion, but less round.
I find myself getting into survival-ish games because of that preparedness you mention.
I havnt had too much experience in D&D, but I imagine there are some dungeons out there that pretty much cant be completed with out a holy class, but I'm just speculating.
you may even want to ask your father "where did you put that will? we need to know who your heir is"
Instant sub, you're delightful
Rip witcherfact, long love properbird
Cant wait for the sequel: Lesbomancy
Is this Final fantasy music? Maybe 8?
First time seeing the channel and I love the crimson red eyes
This bird might have found his twin flame
G'day! Today we're doing an unboxing! ⚰
*_"Klaatu... Barada... Ni-COUGH..."_*
🤭🤭🤭
Thanks for bringing a dead topic to life
Seidir being a feminine magic gives me WoT vibes
The 5th in the series? That deserves a like!
Jesus this script was cringe
Hell yea, Black Cauldron!!
Imagine a druid who decided to become a necromancer. An army of corpses covered in flowers that just refuse to rot. Would it be ironic? I mean, druids technically create life through plants and necromancers have the reputation of d e a t h so idk.
Persephone from the game Smite basically
Hey I want to say thanks for all your videos especially the Witcher because you my little brother got me in the series again love your channel😇❤️
Glad to have you back! :p
Nice way to end the weekend
i enjoyed that video :D
Transfixus sed non mortuus
Neck-romancy???
so when Jesus does it his cool, but when I try to do it, oh no I've gone too far. Double standards
The intention differs .
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Highfive. 😎
Ass soon as I saw the "bird" I had to click on it,lol!
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I love you
Extra points for using HoMM5 footage. I liked how they turned Necromancers from mustache twirling villains to people who have actual role and purpose in the game's world. Well, not in the base game, with Markal, but in the Expansion with Arantir's story. And then even more expanded their lore in HoMM6.
Necromancy and Christianity are the same. If you are practicing Animism and being killed buy Christians are also normal.
Love the channel/vid, keep up the great work! Just wanted to add a little since esoteric traditions is something I study in uni, Dee was more an alchemist than a necromancer and relied a little too much on Kelly for Enochian magic. Some of those talks are pretty funny though, like interrupting/insulting the angels and asking for the location of buried treasure while they were talking about the apocalypse. But after the whole wife swap incident, the "angels stopped taking to them" and Dee and Kelly's relationship fell apart. I'd say Dee is more famous for his Monas Hieroglyphica since he actually did that on his own before meeting Kelly. In regards to the whole sitting in a circle and holding hands, there's an interesting study done by some Canadian researchers, look up the "1972 Philip experiment" I'm personally not sure what to make of it, but might be a fun topic for a follow up video!
From watching star dew valley guides to the history of necromancy I LIKE THIS!
wow cool topic, great vid!
might also find thelema and chaos magick interesting.
I am impressed, witchy lady
Oh boy, I hope this goes to a full series of ", what's up with that?" :D
Hope you return soon. I miss your narration & escapism from the mundane/tough work life
I really dig the channel. Interesting topics combined with a great sense of humor and a cool style keep it up! 🔥🔥🔥
I can’t believe this story you’re tellin’ me - it’s MACABRE!
WAH I only realized 3 minutes in that you eyes are RED. Oh my god you spooked me almost to death.
Worth wearing them then. :p
😂😂😂 the first skit made me laugh out loud haha, thank you so much.
Every single video you make is incredible.
How did I miss this video? This channel is getting good.
I literally subsist off of your content.
Didn't care for the mocking
That Santa Claus cosplay is on point 😋
These thumbnails just get better ✨
Jinzee, I absolutely love your videos. I also adore your Lapras plush! Could you help a fan out and tell me where you got it?
I'm afraid that particular plush is extremely old and not available anymore as far as I know. ^^;
Great video as always, J
Best role-play ever!
Question for you sort of related to this and a previous vid you did, have you heard of a MegaDrive game and a comic book series called Chakan: The Forever Man?
I have not but I feel like I've seen his face somewhere before.
@@ProperBird To give you the short version, Chakan was a swordsman who got cocky and claimed he was so good even Death couldn't beat him. Death accepted the challenge and told Chakan that if he won a dual with him he would be granted immortality. Chakan won and Death made it so he couldn't die until all supernatural evil was destroyed, though he could still be injured. After about a thousand years or so Chakan is basically questing to destroy all the supernatural evil in the world so he can be rid of the curse of immortality.
@@cord113 Never deal with death eh!
@@ProperBird Spoilers from the end of the game here, but after Chakan beats the final boss he falls on his sword and asks Death to finally claim him. To quote Death's reply directly He says:
“Let me now show you the totality of your curse, Chakan.
Look above you.
See the countless stars above...
each surrounded by worlds like yours... Worlds thick with supernatural evils.
They are so many and so far away, and you are stuck on this mote of dust waiting to reach them...
Waiting such a long, long time...
Waiting forever...”
So, yeah. The moral of the story is: Don't screw with Death.
This is another one of those stories that will always stick with me :)
Never understood the hate towards necromancy in many fantasy settings. Like, bringing souls back to bodies, speaking with the dead and f'ing with fate is ok, but the moment you decide to raise a zombie or two you're suddenly an antichrist and a devil incarnate. And even in cases of just the extreme definition of necromancy (meaning "necromancy is just creating zombies and talking to the dead, healing and prophecising is something different") - if the school of magic was treated fairly, the people capable of practicing necromancy would be heroes in war times. We don't want people to die? - fine, let's have an army or at least the front lines composed of decomposing corpses in armor. Oh, we're losing people? - no problem, let me raise them real quick. We've won a battle? Give me a week, we'll have a bigger army than we started with. Enemy commander died in battle? "Oi, c'mere ya lil' punk, let's have a proper chinwag".
Amonkhet comes to mind, possibly because of Liliana on the thumbnail, and not even knowing the lore well, there were cards clearly suggesting that there are other uses for dead people. From carrying crates and pots (even as the world breaks), to just using fans, acting as a guard or being a butler. Anyways, I strayed too far from the point. The point being - necromancy's just a tool. Good video, learned quite a bit new.