Was Wuthering Waves' Danjin too Controversial?

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
  • Due to feedback, it would seem that Kuro Games has changed this Wuthering Waves character COMPLETELY. Is the new Danjin better or worse?
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  • @RateUpRadio
    @RateUpRadio  6 місяців тому +86

    Do you prefer the new Danjin or the old Danjin?

    • @danielw.2456
      @danielw.2456 6 місяців тому +58

      Old to be honest. I'm not sure who these ppl who complained about old Danjin are, but i liked the old version. It created real character diversity & the intensity of her battle dialouge was so visceral.
      This may be wrong, but my personal take it that these complainers' "real" complaint was that it's hard to "waifu-ify" a character that is suffering from a mental disorder.
      Had they stuck with old Danjin they could have developed an amazing story where they find a partial cure (bc this is a fanstasy world) & Danjin needing to grow as a character & accept herself could be the trigger for that cure to take full effect & we could have gotten a fleshed out story leading to when Danjin goes from crazy girl to someone who finally accepts & loves herself without needing others to affirm her. & then we could get what we have now with this new version of her, a justice focused self confident girl with a bit of crazy hiding in there as a left over remnant of who she was. Bonus points if they even update her in game battle dialouge so that after the arc it becomes what we have now, but they still leave a toggle option so ppl who liked the way old Danjin spoke can still hear that battle dialouge.
      So i'm sad at such wasted potential. & maybe it wasn't a "waifu" drive that was made ppl uncomfortable, but i can't help but feel that if Danjin was a burly man who was mentally unhinged & spoke in 3rd person instead of a cutesy girl, nobody would bat an eye.

    • @roadbone1941
      @roadbone1941 6 місяців тому +11

      I like new Danjin. I dislike "yandere"s because I've been stalked IRL, which isn't as fun as it sounds. I usually dislike 3rd person talk because it either comes off as purposely dumb (I'm talking drooling baby levels of naivete, aka: Paimon) or needlessly ego-centric.

    • @danielw.2456
      @danielw.2456 6 місяців тому +20

      @@roadbone1941 Honestly, Danjin doesn't feel very yandere to me. The trope in general feels more like joke that everyone in said setting where it's happening kinda plays it off as cute or acts like it's normal. Or it's some weird horror fetish thing in other scenarios. In Danjin's case it seems very much like she just has mental instability & that makes it feel more sad & real. She's not trying to be that way bc it's cute. In her old lore her power literally breaks down the users mind. So she kept fighting for the sake of the people she loved & that's why she became obsessed with them. Bc basically what's tethering her to her sanity is the people she is protecting. & if she sounds like a child or dumb for speaking in 3rd person it's bc, as i said, her mental faculties are decreasing. So it makes sense she would start saying her name to refer to herself bc she very possibly could be forgetting her own name & wants to not forget it. But she definitely isn't refering to herself in third person bc of arrogance.
      Otherwise, sorry to hear you've been stalked... Sounds terrible.

    • @veihijackzdah792
      @veihijackzdah792 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@roadbone1941 you basically voiced my thoughts on the matter. 😂

    • @nottyseel949
      @nottyseel949 6 місяців тому +7

      I honestly do not really like any anime character tropes (especially the maid, cutesy cat-girl, childlike/shy, and other some-person-that-is-very-much-not me fantasy). Always hard to watch (and get caught watching). I do like interesting characters, however, and Danjin SEEMED more interesting and less typical before. I was very interested to see her story because it was rather unique compared to essentially just being a "hero".
      I liked the vacant eyes and near psychotic expressions as they were believable in the context of her character, and I thought it was a very nice touch to truly develop the character. I'm not sure I would ever get the impression that all or any people with DID would actually be like her. I have mental illnesses (relatively common ones), and very few of the people that I know that have them represent my experience. I do not feel misrepresented because those people exist nor think their experiences are inaccurate representations. It's actually helpful knowing that there are such vastly different experiences because it helps me not stereotype my own circumstances. So, I do not think it's harmful to have an uncommon representation, as long as it's not complete nonsense or mocking. Like Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice was unrealistic, but very believable and far more intriguing in its presentation.

  • @xrosslegends1279
    @xrosslegends1279 6 місяців тому +263

    She licks the blood from her finger at the end of the trailer before talking with the girl, which makes me think she might be a straight up sociopath or phycopath now... Or at the very least a sadist that uses justice as a justification to inflict pain on others... Not sure how to feel about that if that's the case. XD

    • @demonboy3779
      @demonboy3779 6 місяців тому +61

      I was thinking the same thing. Honestly I kinda like dark or troubled characters so that’s not a problem to me with that said if wuthering waves is too scare to explore certain story content cause they scare of controversy the story could be affected in a negative way but only time will tell hoping for the best

    • @xrosslegends1279
      @xrosslegends1279 6 місяців тому +9

      @@Yowaiiiiiii Is that true? Guess I gotta take another look.

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ Місяць тому +8

      Thats her own blood, she needs to recuperate it because she uses alot of it on battle, she even has a device on her hand that takes out her blood to make the crimson sword

    • @Varo_4
      @Varo_4 21 день тому +2

      Really? I think she is eating a cookie

    • @frey8893
      @frey8893 3 дні тому

      my type of girl

  • @chequrrr
    @chequrrr 6 місяців тому +216

    I really hope they haven't thrown away the morally-grey side of her entirely. Instead of having an alter associated with DID, I would change her personality to be two-faced as a means of representing her 'good' and 'bad' sides.
    I think it would be cool if her character struggles with apathy and sadism. It would be interesting if her view on justice places those she deems 'good' on a pedestal, but then for those she deems 'bad' to be nothing but filth that must be eradicated from existence. She could be a two-faced character that would graciously give everything for the ones she idolizes, but then feel nothing for those who don't fit her ideals on justice. In the presence of those she idolizes, she would be the sweet and kind girl we've seen her to be so far, but when alone with those who don't meet her expectations, she becomes apathetic towards them, and her sadistic side would reveal itself.
    To add a more deeper perspective, the fear of abandonment aspect in her character can be further developed as well. Her motivation could be based off a belief that the people she idolizes will one day abandon her if she doesn't continue acting as her people-pleasing persona, and that fear of abandonment drives her to pursue the justice they seek as a way to prove her worth. She's frustrated with herself, so she simultaneously uses justice as an outlet for relieving herself of stress which would explain why she switches into an apathetic state devoid of ethics. Her stress would be so overwhelming in the moment that her selfish priority to relieve it would override any ability to empathize with others. She would experience sadistic pleasure because she copes with her suffering by inflicting pain on others to mimic the idea of sharing the pain together. The mental health aspect of her character could be that she lacks self-worth which resulted in the development of her ruthlessly apathetic and sadistic traits.
    Just some thoughts from me since I think she has a lot of potential to make an outstanding character if written correctly! It would be an absolute shame if she merely ends up as the uninspired 'perfect girl with no flaws' troupe

    • @donut1550
      @donut1550 10 днів тому +6

      That sounds great! Honestly gonna use this as inspo for a morally-grey character I'm trying not to make seem so evil

    • @chequrrr
      @chequrrr 10 днів тому +3

      @@donut1550 I’m honoured!!!! ❤️❤️

    • @Kurokami112
      @Kurokami112 3 дні тому +2

      Oh hey, that's me

    • @RuneKatashima
      @RuneKatashima 16 годин тому +2

      Dude that's some hella good writing.

  • @suntailu88
    @suntailu88 6 місяців тому +246

    I def prefer the newer Danjin, while I miss the old family ties, her model and voice are much better than before. Like the voice actor was good, but it really just sounds wayyyy too off.

    • @neptineauras6879
      @neptineauras6879 6 місяців тому +19

      I agree the new one is way better like even the voice is so much better when I heard it in cbt 1

  • @destinationskyline07
    @destinationskyline07 6 місяців тому +153

    Nanami speaks in 3rd person, but I never found it weird. I always just thought she was quirky.

    • @CosmicX1
      @CosmicX1 6 місяців тому +76

      I think the self-assuredness Nanami has makes it seem less weird. She’s basically her own announcer for her heroic deeds!

    • @motokaichou2010
      @motokaichou2010 6 місяців тому +8

      do you play in JP dub or EN?
      both makes a difference

    • @AsterWi
      @AsterWi 6 місяців тому +14

      That makes sense, i guess in that type of situation the third person talk is fine

    • @lastructchure389
      @lastructchure389 6 місяців тому +2

      @@motokaichou2010 can you develop that difference?

    • @D4rkn3ss2000
      @D4rkn3ss2000 6 місяців тому +11

      Bambinatta as well.

  • @sammyashi
    @sammyashi 6 місяців тому +184

    kuro made the right call by a long mile. mental illnesses are a touchy subject, but if they're well written they can make for amazing stories and characters (see silent hill 2, for example).
    the fact they're going as far as revisiting whole character personalities, backstories and motives makes me hopeful for the writing in general. i've noticed that her inspection report was quite well written and flowed really well. hopefully we'll see what they cooked for the actual story soon enough

  • @likeasir007
    @likeasir007 6 місяців тому +57

    I hope they still lean on her mental illness and explore that side of her, but with care and time. Would make as a great exposure point for a lot of people, and I think it can be a great story.

  • @marcordm122
    @marcordm122 6 місяців тому +21

    Damn the game was going to be dark,now is going more lighthearted than again it can be a slow burn

    • @RateUpRadio
      @RateUpRadio  6 місяців тому +12

      PGR has a pretty dark story despite how it might look on the surface, so time will tell for Wuthering Waves!

  • @midwestairway
    @midwestairway 6 місяців тому +35

    As long as kuro is left alone with the creative process and the development of the game, all is well, the company has some amazing talent, let them cook, and I hope they don't shy away from mature themes

  • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
    @mariapazgonzalezlesme 6 місяців тому +104

    The new version is better tbh. And since the main theme of her character is justice, this could allow the writers to dive into the different types of that subject, since they are know for creating morally grey characters. And since WuWa world is in a post-apocalypse ambience, this allows players to see how her characters develops, better or worse.

  • @themusicheart167
    @themusicheart167 6 місяців тому +18

    The old crazy girl was kinda better

  • @whatamess8894
    @whatamess8894 6 місяців тому +76

    There's a guy on Twitter who is Chinese and he shows things that were lost when they come to the English version.
    The danjin name when it was first revealed had a strong reference to jade and virtue. but in the first cbt this meaning in the name changes to a red flower called cinnabar.
    now they've gone back to the name she had when it was first revealed, which makes me believe that this danjin in the showcase is the version they originally had in mind, but for some reason in the first cbt it changed. (I remember there were rumors in China that the guy who was writing the story for the first beta was taking paths that conflicted with what the rest of the team wanted and was fired... anyway, just rumors)
    and danjin remains a little crazy, but in a subtle way. If you notice in the showcase after she wipes the blood off her face, she licks her finger that she wiped off previously

    • @boboverlord1
      @boboverlord1 6 місяців тому +18

      I heard about the rumor of the writer guy that got fired too. First he used to work with Snowbreak, then WW, and now Netease (maybe writing for Project Mugen lol). People there look really happy that he got fired lol.

    • @neptineauras6879
      @neptineauras6879 6 місяців тому +8

      ​​​@@boboverlord1I can see why the cn were happy like the plot was poor the way he wrote it since you mentioned you going to work for NetEase now I see not good plot for mugen

    • @reyxo4657
      @reyxo4657 5 місяців тому +1

      She clearly just "eated" a cookie or something at the end... Doesn't looks like a "lick"
      You can see the thumb and the index finger holding something
      Plus do you really think she would do that just in front of the girl?

    • @whatamess8894
      @whatamess8894 5 місяців тому +4

      @@reyxo4657 not necessarily licking it, but the fact is that she takes the finger that she had used to clean the blood from her face to the mouth. and yep, I think she would do that in front of the kid because it's not like that kid had the full context of the situation or something like that...anyway, I'm not going to extend this too much, take whatever interpretation you want

    • @reyxo4657
      @reyxo4657 5 місяців тому +2

      @@whatamess8894
      Oh yes, you can interpret the fact that she's eating a cookie with the same hand she wiped her blood as you wish
      I'm just warning against misinformation

  • @megitsune714
    @megitsune714 3 місяці тому +10

    Dang i liked her yandere demeanor a lot

  • @zer0veledits
    @zer0veledits 6 місяців тому +23

    My core issue was that it felt as if it was a bit too much or taken to the extreme and the other thing is that I wanted her to be all about justice since Jiyan is her guardian and father/older brother like figure in her story so even from the first cbt I wanted them to turn her more like towards how she is now compared to how she was and I am glad they made the change, I don't mean to say they should not explore such a touchy subject with their characters but they can do it with a better story explanation and not to this extreme level of course.

  • @Greatwhitesharkandmiri
    @Greatwhitesharkandmiri 6 місяців тому +17

    Honestly prefer the new Danjin. Not that I hated the old Danjin but I think this is much better

  • @jtbomb3000
    @jtbomb3000 6 місяців тому +29

    While I'm partial to the old Danjin since I liked the yandere aspect of her character, I'm interested in the direction. Making the darker side of the character more subtle means there'll be more depth in her story to come. I never really thought of anime characters speaking in third-person as infantilization, but I'm not against the change at all either.
    One thing I love about the new PV for Danjin is the way her presence is depicted. When facing away from the caravan in the distance, she looked like a sinister shadow. When she was behind the masked guy, he seemed to only know she was there from her intimidating pressure. I'd say she's more like a wolf in sheep's clothing now, where she was just a rabid one before. I can't wait to see how her story goes this time around!

  • @recode4967
    @recode4967 6 місяців тому +9

    old Danjin is perfect lore

  • @HazZzel-
    @HazZzel- 2 дні тому +3

    I swear everything in this game is "too offensive" to the CN fanbase
    I think her referring to herself in third person further enforces she's struggling mentally. Mental health is often a gritty and awkward thing- it doesn't always have to be portrayed in a "good" or "beautiful light". In fact, romanticizing it is even worse

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 День тому

      Given that The Poster loved the change to Danjin. I think you might just be the Minority

    • @HazZzel-
      @HazZzel- День тому +1

      @@arnowisp6244 So? I'm still allowed to have an opinion

    • @equinoxflowersofcenturysen5881
      @equinoxflowersofcenturysen5881 День тому +2

      I agree. She sounds so boring now. It sounded interesting that they wanted to make a visibly mentally ill character. Now it feels like shes been sanitized. Feels like they think the audience can't handle anything but a nice anime girl who wants to help others. Super lame.

  • @blockeontheleafeon
    @blockeontheleafeon 6 місяців тому +10

    4:27 Actually, Gonta DOES speak in 3rd person in the English Dub of Danganronpa V3. It's the only time I've seen this gendered trope be flipped on its head.

    • @doedoel035
      @doedoel035 17 днів тому +1

      I'm sure he speaks like that too in the JP dub

    • @blockeontheleafeon
      @blockeontheleafeon 17 днів тому +1

      @@doedoel035 That would make a lot of sense.

  • @Varo_4
    @Varo_4 21 день тому +3

    I liked more the crazy old Danjin 😞 that was a nice interesting character history, where you feel curiosity about her and why she is like that.Those lost crazy eyes were were hypnotizing.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 День тому

      No it was Cringe. Turns out the Same writer for her was the same Writer for Snow break's worst parts

  • @vicca4671
    @vicca4671 3 місяці тому +4

    I really like the new version, but it'd be pretty cool to see her demeanor and voice lines change as her HP dropped or something similar. Getting more desperate the closer she is to falling.

  • @bobjohnson6946
    @bobjohnson6946 6 місяців тому +99

    I would've liked the darker character version. Now we just got another run of the mill goodie two shoe/CCP Acceptable/Woke/Social Credit++ kind of personality. Imagine trying to watch the Joker in theaters and they cancel the movie because someone, somewhere in this world of 8 billion people got triggered by it. If devs/writers want to make insane characters then by all means as long as if makes the cast/story interesting. Big pass on this one for me.

    • @odinonion4619
      @odinonion4619 6 місяців тому +6

      True. That's why we will never have great things.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f 11 днів тому

      Thats the most cringe edgelord bullshit i ever Heard , the people that want always dark bullshit are pathetic degenerates and simps without life or their own

    • @Yuzhen1
      @Yuzhen1 10 днів тому +6

      I don’t think it’s the CCP. Kuro’s changes to the game are due to criticism from their fans in China. The government wouldn’t really care unless WuWa has something in it criticizing it.

    • @Pewpewpewdamnnnnnhegotshot
      @Pewpewpewdamnnnnnhegotshot 5 днів тому

      It was the CN fandom

    • @KevinGhulam
      @KevinGhulam 3 дні тому +1

      @@Yuzhen1it's quite a big issue for WuWa team really. While lots of people are praising them for being rather responsive towards the players, they also folds way too easily against criticisms.
      They need to play into their own niches more without caring too much on public perception, because the last thing the industry needs is another game being "normie" friendly and thus uninspired if not half assed (might be a bit harsh given how good this game could be but it is how it is in the current state for the characters and the story)
      If the numbers are enough to appease the execs in the long run, i hope the devs would be comfortable to get more creative

  • @Skullssy
    @Skullssy 5 днів тому +3

    Now that we have wuwa out and can get a better idea of her character, yeah I'm glad they still kept her having a dark/unhinged side, with her having a justice complex and seeking to eradicate all injustice and evil from the world as a result of her family getting murdered by bandits (my source being her intimacy stories). ALL WE NEED IS FOR HER TO ACTUALLY SHOW UP IN STORY-

  • @danielw.2456
    @danielw.2456 6 місяців тому +5

    Great vid! Thanks for this! I was on old Danjin team! I loved her old battle dialouge! But i'm still using her bc Danjin is awesome!

  • @enjoyer1731
    @enjoyer1731 6 місяців тому +5

    The new one is definitely better but... i will miss her crazy ult voiceline "NO MERCY!" it just fit the vibe of a girl that lost her memory, is protecting something or someone, takes risks when in dire situations and many other ideas. The new voiceline probably sounds closer to her actual character than simply sending shivers down your spine and looking cool.

  • @quasoconqueso
    @quasoconqueso 6 місяців тому +38

    They are really dedicated to feedback, huh. That's pretty neat! New Danjin feels a bit tamer, but I honestly feel the changes are for the better.

    • @harfi212
      @harfi212 6 місяців тому

      Cn player complaining about it and they know they cant sell an unhinged character.

  • @tinyhowie
    @tinyhowie 5 днів тому +1

    I really don't think they had removed her dark side. The eyes remain the cold soulless gaze the 0.5 sec before she met the caravan's eyes during the trailer, her ult looks more like she's in control of the inner demon of her rather than letting it loose. So I'm still looking forward to her further role in the story.

  • @miguerys9503
    @miguerys9503 3 місяці тому +3

    Changing things for the fans has its risks too, I hope they also keep their vision. Treating mental health themes with more gravity is good, but I think her previous incarnation had more personality.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f 11 днів тому

      More personality is not always a good thing

  • @vesper2190
    @vesper2190 6 днів тому +2

    I just need a mod to change her current battle lines to the cbt old ones, i loved how merciless she sounded back then

  • @Rayhaku808
    @Rayhaku808 6 місяців тому +6

    I prefer whichever Danjin has more yandere

  • @charlize9492
    @charlize9492 4 місяці тому

    i just stumbled across your channel and watched a few videos, i love your work!! your videos are amazingly edited and delivered, keep up the good content :)

  • @israelscrewface345
    @israelscrewface345 6 місяців тому +5

    Wished they doubled down on the yandere vibes while revising certain things like her mental health

  • @ChomskysGaming
    @ChomskysGaming 6 місяців тому +5

    i like the design either way, great video as always ! btw, whats the PGR song/ost in the second half of the video ?

    • @RateUpRadio
      @RateUpRadio  6 місяців тому +1

      Last Resort in the first half / Red Tide in the second half 💗

    • @ChomskysGaming
      @ChomskysGaming 6 місяців тому

      @@RateUpRadio thank you so much !

  • @TheOneRei69
    @TheOneRei69 4 місяці тому +2

    I feel like she uses justice as a excuse to inflict pain (cause of the blood lick) so im hoping im right

  • @SanzuRiver
    @SanzuRiver 2 дні тому +1

    4:32 - damn... that didn’t age well

  • @Krillick
    @Krillick 5 днів тому +1

    I'm just discovering the old Danjin through this video now. I definitely prefer her old dual personality type. I'll be honest and say I don't really care if her mental condition was portrayed in an unrealistic manner or not. It's interesting, and it makes her stand out from the rest of the cast personality wise. There are already more than enough power ranger, cutesy characters in the cast fighting for 'justice'. The old voice acting you showed here seemed great too.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 День тому

      Right. Making her mentally deranged is a great way of making her interesting.

  • @Bittexu
    @Bittexu 6 місяців тому +5

    I don't wanna say I prefer new or old Danjin, especially when we don't know that much about new Danjin. But I will say that old Danjin was really cool.

  • @luapgr
    @luapgr 3 дні тому

    Remember watching this months ago and still love her as she is rn

  • @BlackwindAlpha
    @BlackwindAlpha 6 місяців тому +1

    I may have been early to your post about this..
    But, I am early here, too.
    Though, still, an hour late.
    However. As always, great work, GRR.
    *-Unknown Construct **_a_*

  • @vignesh306
    @vignesh306 6 місяців тому +3

    New Danjin looks refined but I do miss the unhinged old Danjin

  • @RexRageV
    @RexRageV 6 місяців тому +5

    I liked the delivery on her older lines too, much more berserker esque. Otherwise I'd say the changes are really good.

  • @belzemus4725
    @belzemus4725 4 місяці тому +1

    this is why whenever I write an original character of my own with some kind of insanity trope for their character, I just never try to label the mental problem they have, easier for the writer and much less risk of making sensitive and bad assumptions

  • @user-qz3nv5jf7l
    @user-qz3nv5jf7l 6 місяців тому +7

    Mental health can be Not subtle
    Casual player won't even see the message unless it's plastered all over
    And what's wrong with yandere? Being an anime trope does not exclude the fact that there's people like that in a real world.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f 11 днів тому

      And are psychos like the people that like that shit, in reality that gray shit always ends Bad because of idiots that think is more interesting that way

  • @Beeeeeewwwww
    @Beeeeeewwwww 6 місяців тому +3

    About the 3rd person for male anime characters rhough its rare they aren't exempt either. For example the English voice of Gonts Gokuhara from Danganronpa 3 speaks in 3rd person.

    • @Eclin
      @Eclin 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah but i guess that’s just an extreme case because he’s a literal caveman lol

  • @ender1546
    @ender1546 15 годин тому

    I'd like more unhinged characters in the future. A shame we lost her beta version but I guess if the execution of this version is better - so be it

  • @canipunchyou7918
    @canipunchyou7918 6 місяців тому +3

    Personally, I think this type of character can work really nicely and lead to some interesting dialogs and events. But in a gatcha games where focus is put on MANY characters and the space is really limited, it'd be really really hard to make Danjin work without making her seem childish or unreasonable or just over saturated as a character. For example some things should be properly built up through the game, additional characters etc. Rapid changes that might seem out of pocket will just confuse players instead of making her lore more appealing.
    Also, i really love her new voce lines and this type of voice suits her wayy better in my opinion. As for her sister i really will miss her if they got rid of her. It was a really nice and imo significant detail in her character

  • @jcceno4273
    @jcceno4273 6 місяців тому +4

    So shes now more kid friendly??

  • @ben-taobeneton3945
    @ben-taobeneton3945 4 місяці тому +2

    I like both. BUt having an insane Danjin would be epic 😀

  • @featherless2524
    @featherless2524 4 місяці тому +7

    Now she's boring and generic. YAyyyyyyy Can't have divisive charas since people are too afraid of their characters having flaws.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f 11 днів тому

      One thing is flaws another is being a degenerate psycho

  • @TS--
    @TS-- 14 днів тому +2

    I fricking hate that archetype of characters that are like "Oh yeah she is a psychopath, but she is cute". It used to be fun back in the days, but right now it's just old and cliche. If a character is mentally unstable, just embrace it and make their design low-key unhinged

    • @cacaca0
      @cacaca0 6 днів тому +2

      Nah, being a psychopath usually is the opposite of unhinged, they usually just appear normal. I'd prefer her acting normal and even cutesy most of the time but during battle is where it shows her psychopathy, not being crazy and all but just fighting calmly and methodically, with little care for others' well being.

    • @TS--
      @TS-- 5 днів тому

      @@cacaca0 This is literally every yandere character out there...

  • @exploder717
    @exploder717 8 днів тому

    She's SO much better now, thank god.

  • @pixelchrome2
    @pixelchrome2 6 місяців тому

    unrelated to the video, but the moment I heard the music, I realised that we'll probably get more of these bangers in WW

  • @MoonChild8189
    @MoonChild8189 2 дні тому

    I would've really liked if Danjin kept that berserker like dialogue in combat. I just enjoy those kinds of characters who do good but are still blood thirsty. I don't dislike new Danjin but I definitely would've preferred a more complex character. I just think moving away from the infantalizing stuff and the mental health focus would've been enough.

  • @thexp905
    @thexp905 3 місяці тому +1

    I know I'm 2 months late with it, but honestly, When most people talk out of person, they'll usually speak in the second person. Which is a very cute way of talking, though, it can sometimes be hard to tell when they are talking about themselves, without them constantly saying their name, which has its own issues. I do hope they explore some quirkyness in speech patterns in general though, as that is a thing that is never explored, or explored well when it is.

  • @gergotakacs5973
    @gergotakacs5973 6 днів тому +4

    So they made her worse and more tropy. I hate that people can't handle stuff like mental illness in media. This wouldn't have happened 10 years ago. Current generation sucks, man.

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 День тому

      No they made her better. Deal with it. She still has darker aspects it's now less Cringe.

    • @gergotakacs5973
      @gergotakacs5973 День тому

      @@arnowisp6244 I disagree with your opinion, little man.

  • @Kanecobond
    @Kanecobond 6 місяців тому +24

    I prefer Old Danjin, I don't play games to solely be realistic... outside of the weird 3rd person dialogue... especially in english, I find the new version less interesting and rather boring. It's unfortunate. I liked that she was more seemingly emotionally unstable and detached from reality.. which is fine if it's due to mental illness, I can't see it any other way... you can't be normal and be a sociopath, it just doesn't check out... yes, it was in a tropey type of anime way, but people need to realize these uncomfortable truths.. and the uncomfortable truths of that extremes exist, and this is an anime video game. I'm kinda miffed that they got cold feet on their original take of this specific character.

    • @ghostingspirit
      @ghostingspirit 4 місяці тому +13

      not every mentally ill person has to be emotionally unstable and detached from reality?? and even then, that's clearly not the only problem with danjin's character?? it's not an uncomfortable truth, it's misrepresentation!! these complaints about how people show DID in media have existed for years!!

    • @mymelo1075
      @mymelo1075 21 день тому

      @@ghostingspiritright

  • @effishcent317
    @effishcent317 День тому

    2:24 I prefer this Yinlin Over the Elf ear version, thats why I'm skipping her banner waiting for Changli.

  • @beilog7489
    @beilog7489 10 днів тому +1

    Havent seen her in the story yet, but id love it if she was lil psycho as it would fit with her playstyle

  • @MidnightBlueRed
    @MidnightBlueRed 10 днів тому +1

    The old one was so much better. If her having DID was so offensive they could have just removed any references to real life mental disorders instead of completely sanitizing the character

  • @vady177
    @vady177 4 місяці тому +2

    I really like the new version its better than the old one BUT PLEASE RETURN THE OLD NO MERCY AND CRIMSON PERMEATE

  • @_ebony6795
    @_ebony6795 3 місяці тому +3

    I really hope wrong people won't fill this game; otherwise everything will become controversial in the game.
    Look at HSR's Hanabi.

    • @Bongaboi151
      @Bongaboi151 13 днів тому

      Hey, I'm a Sparkle enjoyer. I DO like my UwU Tao.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f 11 днів тому

      Sparkle is more of a troll, shes a degenerate but with a Lot more equilibrium and morals than we though

  • @fierygallades6122
    @fierygallades6122 6 місяців тому

    Hm. Well, I don't really have a preference for either one. I'd be more concerned but ever since the Chixia redesign it's been clear to me that they are still rebuilding a lot of stuff. As such, I think that it's still way too early to worry about what-ifs. Let's wait for them to cook with the story, and then decide whether the Danjin change was a huge loss or not.

  • @AmelieCZ100
    @AmelieCZ100 8 днів тому +1

    I wish they didn't make her this cutesy waifu and kept some of the dark stuff from her old self. Mental disorders aren't nice, and to have some form of a mental disorder character in this game felt affirming since it's not very common in games to have that. Especially one with emotional instability or personality disorder like this.
    Making her be obsessively protective of her family could have been kept in - same with her being aggressive and unstable during fights. Other stuff that are borderline psychopathic didn't need to be there but the new Danjin is just... a normal damn girl. Scratching original design completely, making her this cutesy waifu, which is really sad.

  • @neonmidnight6264
    @neonmidnight6264 4 дні тому

    I wish they didn't remove yandere aspect

  • @KimuraSetsuna
    @KimuraSetsuna 10 днів тому +1

    All I can say, speaking in third person is a Japanese thingy. If I am not mistaken, most children before 3rd grade learn the language that way. Which is why speaking in third person, kind of present a child-like personality in Japan. Which would make sense for Danjin to portray her mental health. (I guess this is stereotypical as well, mental issue -> child-like act)
    Note that they only use their name instead of first-person pronoun, but never use He/She/They.

  • @ops-randomnumbers8072
    @ops-randomnumbers8072 2 дні тому

    i give zero fucks Danjin will always be my favorite

  • @shaggysupermacy4238
    @shaggysupermacy4238 4 дні тому

    I would love her to be a darker character. She needed to be improved not „changed”
    I do believe that Chinese fandom pulled another „she ain’t cute right correct in all ways waifu that actally is mostly sane”
    I hope that they are just underplaying it so that she can shock the audience in the future?
    Like i like they changed the third person talk
    It always made me uncomfortable in anime
    Like is this person age-regression or what?
    How can you hear that and not be weirded out? Are they trying to cut themselves out of them being a real person with emotions but not thinking of themselves as „i am”?

  • @Chadedit55
    @Chadedit55 6 місяців тому

    Is the like button bug?

  • @fallenhero9169
    @fallenhero9169 6 місяців тому +1

    Any clue at all on when the game will be released?

    • @RateUpRadio
      @RateUpRadio  6 місяців тому +2

      No confirmation yet but likely sometime in 2024!

  • @Jake-zk3eb
    @Jake-zk3eb 6 місяців тому

    WAIT, Yin Lin isnt Danjin's sister??!!

  • @equinoxflowersofcenturysen5881
    @equinoxflowersofcenturysen5881 День тому +1

    Man...she sounded way more interesting before. Now she sounds like a generic "want to help people" anime girl that'll blend in with the rest of the nice characters. Lame

  • @user-og9nl5mt1b
    @user-og9nl5mt1b 6 днів тому +1

    Its for casuals now 😢

  • @y2jRuuj
    @y2jRuuj 6 місяців тому +9

    This whole "controversial" and "problematic" debate gives me the shivers and makes me scared that this game will have a player base similar to Genshin Impact. If the people who play this game are even one bit similar to the ones who play Genshin Im either not going to play it or simply not interact with anyone who plays or talks about it just so that I dont get into these childish dramas.

  • @matt-qi7so
    @matt-qi7so 6 місяців тому

    she reminds me of Suletta Mercury.

  • @Briliantless
    @Briliantless 6 місяців тому +13

    Maybe I am the only one that prefer the old Danjin, if you think about it Danjin is basically No.21 but less robotic
    I just like when the characters are imperfect personality wise and stand in grey area instead just black and white personality
    It is a shame since PGR does this so well, Alpha, Luna, Vera, No.21, Selena, Roland and Camu (a.k.a I can fix them)
    Fractured characters gives interesting way how they see the world setting they're in
    But that just my opinion

  • @greg_rid1074
    @greg_rid1074 10 днів тому +1

    No mames mi vieja era una yandere

  • @noname-lb3sg
    @noname-lb3sg 4 місяці тому

    Jinyan is such tsundare

  • @clumzy2003
    @clumzy2003 6 місяців тому +3

    Its 5 in the morning 😁❤❤

    • @shadowboi8620
      @shadowboi8620 6 місяців тому +1

      5 in the afternoon for me.

    • @yohamida3624
      @yohamida3624 6 місяців тому +2

      1 a.m here 🌙

    • @VR-F
      @VR-F 6 місяців тому +1

      Was 8am

    • @Young-padawan
      @Young-padawan 6 місяців тому +1

      was midnight here

    • @Bongaboi151
      @Bongaboi151 13 днів тому

      It's Danjin o'clock for me.

  • @macekyuki7660
    @macekyuki7660 22 години тому

    So they made a interesting character more generic ?

  • @Rigardoful
    @Rigardoful День тому +1

    I liked the dark aspects they were going for before, pity they did away with it and make all kinds of things cookie cutter white washed. I understand there were issues too but still

  • @sodapop1542
    @sodapop1542 2 дні тому

    Honestly they could’ve kept her mental illness but just change some aspects to make her less stereotypical but I still enjoy her now

  • @extrastuffboxofaksakl1k354
    @extrastuffboxofaksakl1k354 2 місяці тому

    "They don't do with anime boys either, it's always girl" meanwhile polar bear from we bare bears, nailing it.

  • @alexfrank5331
    @alexfrank5331 4 місяці тому +3

    The change in her design is a directly reflection of what's wrong with our society.
    "You shall hide your eccentricities and be affable all the time!"
    But since this is a gacha game, it's probably better this way. They can never dedicate sufficient resources to tell her story properly since gacha means creating husbando/waifu while semi-abandoning the old.

  • @guyonyoutube501
    @guyonyoutube501 2 дні тому

    Can't really tell what version I prefer. But I can understand the changes. Gacha characters can't be too deranged.

  • @SadKrozo
    @SadKrozo 3 місяці тому +3

    actually ruined her....

  • @geoblas9513
    @geoblas9513 3 дні тому

    ye I like the old one but this one is fine to

  • @user-og9nl5mt1b
    @user-og9nl5mt1b 6 днів тому +1

    She was much better before . Tf. -,- , i like her older version more

  • @sumas7
    @sumas7 6 місяців тому +3

    I didn't know she had those mental health issues in the first CBT, but i think it was almost better that way, It didn't only add more diversity to the roaster, but it was also a bit more realistic and interesting you know, even if it's a game it doesn't have to be all sunshine and rainbows
    Ps. Glad she now talks in first person

  • @hitomi-chanisshywithstrang56
    @hitomi-chanisshywithstrang56 6 місяців тому

    Her sister is definitely Vera! I knew it! That old skan-

  • @xd_teoma93
    @xd_teoma93 4 місяці тому

    YOU CAN RUN ABOVE WATER?????

  • @hakuja66
    @hakuja66 6 місяців тому +1

    Just like Danjin

  • @hisuijin8038
    @hisuijin8038 6 місяців тому +3

    Yes , would prefer a darker side to her... Would make more sense with her scarlet theme

  • @Jake-zk3eb
    @Jake-zk3eb 6 місяців тому

    Didnt know she was controversiol.

  • @jo3y960
    @jo3y960 6 місяців тому +3

    That was pretty yikes, but I think they could have just made a Yandere crazy character like vera without the mental health stuff.
    Like the changes, but we'll see what happens

  • @mostpolitebot1464
    @mostpolitebot1464 20 годин тому

    now she's known for being the one you play for no hit runs and nobody cares about her generic character

  • @iloverice6784
    @iloverice6784 2 місяці тому

    I need gen 2!!!

  • @shiroryuichi3762
    @shiroryuichi3762 3 місяці тому

    I love the current one

  • @gjkdshgkjshjkgdfg
    @gjkdshgkjshjkgdfg 3 місяці тому

    she got therapy ❤

  • @zelockgaming9727
    @zelockgaming9727 6 місяців тому +1

    I just hope the devs don’t sway away from the dark theme of the game

  • @ahmyashi43
    @ahmyashi43 6 місяців тому +1

    just reduce the "genshin factor"