To Rory & Mal, Demaris, Edin, Julian, Bais and the rest of the team: Wishing you all a very successful New Year of podding and good health! Looking forward to see what the new studio is going to look like! Ignore the haters and the negativity in the comment section. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. We all won't agree on anything, ever. That's a fact. Haters gon' hate. Winners gon' win! Peace & Love and everything in between. B E S T P O D C A S T E V E R
@@undrgrouknight same lol. I can only watch 5-10 minutes of Rory and Mal. The "cool guy" shit is drying out. They might as well hang it up. They both said themselves they don't care about poddin. Lol it's clearly being shown.
Mals dope till he talks hoop. I agree MJ is the goat but I can’t stand listening to mal talk NBA in general cuz he doesn’t really know what he’s talking about at all
He talk hoops like an old head. But usually the old heads be having an unnatural amount of basketball knowledge when they make their takes. Mal doesn’t. Lol
My mother is a black woman and she told me herself not believe everything from everyone. If I believed everything a woman of any color or man of any color had told me I would be lost out here. Facts first.
@@YASISOYYO nah the story is Tory shot Meg, we have three people here two of which had gun powder residue and one witness who said the two women were fighting as well as other stories. You have one person “ Kelsey” who got immunity to not be charged for anything involving the case, who also released a diss called who shot you. if Kelsey was 100% innocent why would immunity be necessary? I don’t know what happened and I’m not going to believe everything I’m told when the only real evidence is Tory saying I’m sorry for everything over a jail call. This is messy altercation between friends.
Giving a FULL SHOW? Y'all know you're going to see Kendrick. That's a whole art performance. Drake's giving you SLAPS all night, very different atmosphere.
People trip me out with the “she was out two days later” narrative when , if you followed her social media during that time, it was four weeks before she was out in public. She had surgery and had to stay at the hospital for about a day or two then she had to under go physical therapy too. People just say and believe anything.
Ironically naming this episode “Why Don’t We Believe Black Women?” to start talking about how they believed Meg then switch over to the topic about the Black girl from the Drake story and the cast not believing her. 😂
I understand the "believe all women" sentiment, because for years abusers got away with their abuse, so in a way to counter that we sometimes have to go to the extreme. However it is problematic because folks forget that lying on someone is equally an abusive act. But the same folks who were defending Tory were the same ones who said "well we weren't there, so we don't know", with that you would think that would be a neutral stand, but no they defended Tory like he got shot...thats what I didn't understand. You know those family members who defend their serial killer relative and swear that it could never be them and say "its impossible, even if they were caught on tape, that's what it was like. The media I support definitely change after seeing how this all played out.
There has never been any sense behind a “believe all women” narrative. Abuse of all forms has always existed and effected every type of person from all walks of life. No special treatment or favoritism should be afforded to anyone when concern for any victim should be across the board. That narrative was only established to divide and further hatred between genders.
Not gonna lie, hearing people say they're tired of talking about Megans abuse is weird to me, we lose so many people to gun violence, talking about it should be a burden. we just lost Take Off, I would never stop talking about that or feel a way speaking on it.
@@treychapo1898 moving right is subjective and regular people get shot everyday for nothing. So gun violence should be talked about whether its a celebrity or not.
I get Tory was convicted, but why are we missing the witness, the lady that was in the house that came outside and said she seen a blast come from Kelsey's hand, not Tory's let's remember that.
The amount of bitter women hating men in this comment section they clearly don’t even know what the charges actually were is wild! Stop getting your news from the shadwroom 🥴
I know y’all heard about Vanessa Posso lying on Gervonta Davis about him trying to killing her and hitting her his daughter. Y’all gon pod about that too right?
Assault refers to the wrong act of causing someone to reasonably fear imminent harm. This means that the fear must be something a reasonable person would foresee as threatening to them. Battery refers to the actual wrong act of physically harming someone.
@@Nothingregular That's one of the 3 (or four) elements of assault. Elements of Assault intent, apprehension of a harmful contact, and. causation. An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.
We don’t believe people when they seem to be liars. We believed old girl about Doodie Lo. Now she being sued for defamation of character. Shit happens.
Nobody is saying believe ALL Black women. I think the question at hand is Why is it an intra- and inter- societally accepted to DOUBT Black women. Whether people want to admit it or not Black women are doubted for their pain. In the home, at the hospital, and in the courts. It's not about why didn't you believe her. It's more about why did people keep trying to build evidence against her than support a physically (and mentally) hurt person
27:29 if you are on a jury and you think everyone lied, then that should lead to a hung jury. I believe that also and i’m willing to bet at least one juror felt the same. To let this go to deliberation before the Christmas holiday was a misstep by the defense.
@@vanessaspeaks I guess it depends on how those lies affect the presentation of the evidence. I wish it was televised so everybody could see how the trial went instead of the second-hand reporting from all those youtube “reporters” lol
Have you listened to rap at all. Listen to any right leaning black man. Niggas stay disrespecting black woman. The evidence is all there. Now black woman are giving back that energy and niggas are becoming passport bros.
Men are responsible for the overwhelming majority of murder and domestic violence. It’s not surprising many of them will believe that a billionaire like Jay will plot a conspiracy against a celebrity who’s leagues behind him, instead of the very real possibility that he lost his cool while drunk. I knew a lot of this fan base wasn’t shit when they were defending mals comments on suicide. I also think a lot of them see Tory in themselves too, so they’re riding for him like they’d hope others would ride for them in that situation
Ok, he's asked this question about how many black women and did he wait til Meg who is Roc Nation to be the topic of discussion to be concerned all of a sudden?
There’s no way y’all honestly don’t see how Unlikable y’all are. 90% of y’all clown anyone that doesn’t sell drugs, set niggas up to die, brag about lying cheating and stealing. Brag about using men for money and dick. All while having 4 babies by 4 men. Give me 2 reasons why we SHOULDNT dislike yall? Good pussy that is it. Terrible people
she said she aint know she got shot until the doctors told her that she had fragments in her leg. she also went from saying she had her back turnt and didnt know who shot her to now looking directly a tory. that alone right there doesnt make sense .
What’s funny is she only said Tory said dance b*tch so she could explain how she knew it was him after she said her back was turned. She never said that initially. Meg is hall of fame cap.
59:05 Mal! You want us to believe black women, including Meg. But you dont want to believe The Boy is rubbing bellies? Pick a side Mal!!! LOL. We are supposed to believe Meg but not her? What if he went RAW and she stepped on some glass after he slapped the phone out her hand?
I feel like drakes time stamp records have evoked to time and locations . Because Churchill downs Is also a time stamp record. Just like Rory said with the ride. It's time and locations
Drake is Not the best rapper of his generation, the same way Drake isn't the best singer/vocalist of his generation. There are better singers than Drake who aren't as commercially successful as Drake, there're also rappers who are better than Drake who aren't as commercially successful as him. Anyone who argues against this is just dumb
You really expect me to believe Tory magically teleported from behind the driver seat to the front passenger side and started firing within 2.5 seconds over the window after Megan got out the car and decided to walk away? You expect me to believe he shot her because she dissed his career? That don’t even make sense. The argument was about Megan snaking her best friend. They were in a FIST FIGHT. You can see a knot on Megan’s head while in the ambulance and the injuries Kelsey had from Megan kicking and dragging her in the evidence that got released. The witness saw the fight, he saw the girl go to the car to get the gun and start firing. He himself said Tory got out the backseat not the front seat. Want to know why Megan and Kelsey both didn’t mention the fight they had? IT GIVES KELSEY THE MOTIVe. IT SAVES MEGAN’S IMAGE. Megan literally bragged about snatching Kelsey’s chain that night on a song. There was way too much reasonable doubt in this case.
@MakaveliG17C he shot her. Period. Like what more do yall want. You rather sit here and try to analyze this shit so much because you just can't fathom the fact that Tory would do something as heinous as he did. As if men and women don't do worse everyday. Like cut it out.
@@mikielwade7109 ‘i could never have a kid and still be out here kidding around’ - drake 2018. ‘lie about getting shot but she still a stallion’-drake 2022. Drake sabotages his own career with his own bars 💀💀💀
@@angelusgnz5784 If you truly believe people gaf about that line and thinks hes sabotaging his career off of it then thats ur reality i gotta respect it
@@mikielwade7109 I have yet to give you any opinion. I gave you his own lines and the actual fact that he’s tainted his career with lines like those when he’s so obviously a hypocrite. “No friends in the industry” was insane to actually hear drake make fun of himself and be so blissfully unaware that he’s talking about himself. It’s okay to admit Drake has shot him self in the foot plenty of times with his own bars and then backed out when it’s too much for him. It’s okay to say that buddy, Drake doesn’t know you. He’ll be fine lol.
I think Mal is in so deep he ain’t got no choice but to say what he sayin cause I truly feel he don’t believe nobody believe black women cause that’s cap 🧢
It's not. Because alot of black women feel like they're not believed. Whether its by their own family, friends, the justice system, the medical system. It's true. So no cap, just facts..
A lot of black men sound very similar to how white ppl sound when you try to talk to them about racism or micro aggressions that black ppl experience. They swear it doesn’t exist and it’s cap lol. You won’t see it unless you’re in it. I’m in university right now for nursing and we learned that black women are not taken seriously even in medicine. It’s believed that they have a higher threshold for pain so their concerns are often dismissed. This is being taught in a white educational institution. Not an HBCU. It’s just facts. Not saying believe all black women. Just don’t doubt them when they speak.
Are black women oppressed, perpetual victims who need protection or are they strong, empowered, independent queens who don't need a man? Can we pick a side already? Im about sick of the narrative switching depending on the convenience. Which one is it?
@@ShinyWon Y'all started kicking black men out of the household so that the government could give y'all that sweet welfare money and y'all sold out black families for your independence. Go do some research. Now one minute y'all want to be treated like delicate, powerless beings who need to be given grace, protection and leadership. The next minute y'all want to be treated like empowered women who are equals and can do anything a man can do. If female empowerment is the move, cut out the "protect black women" nonsense. It makes y'all look silly. Pick a side already.
Reading this comment section I’ve realized that black men and white supremicist have a very similar rhetoric when it comes to their opinions on marginalized communities
@@AboveAve100 The same white supremacists that brainwashed yall to kick men out the household for a government check? Yea ok. The real question is, are you an empowered strong independent queen who is equal to a man and doesn't need a man for anything? If so, I don't want to hear anything about "protect black women". The women who really want protection act accordingly and receive it without hesitation. You can't drag men every chance you get and then expect these same men to protect you.
The one thing mentioned 1000 times by Mal in this Podcast..is that Meg is a black woman...I think ever since Mal got called out for being a colorist or a guy that slanders black women, he has been going OD in the opposite direction. Like when Joe made sure to have brown skin female co-host on state of the culture and an all female podcast network, to prove he was not what the public said. (sorry for bringing him up). But the fact is, the one thing that incident, the case, her lying and people not believing her have NOTHING to do with..is the fact that Meg is a black woman. I bet him, Julian or any of them could not name any other case, where a black woman accused a man of violence, and the public gave her backlash. Mal is acting like it happens every month. The title of the podcast is ridiculous.
Seeing as you are not a black woman and speaking on this, i can tell you very much so that you are incorrect and THAT is why Mal spoke up and said something. He is also NOT the only person in the public idea to speak up and say the exact same sentiment on black women never being believed and having to just through hoops just for someone to take us seriously. You might just feel this way bc you dont like Meg, but she is not the only black woman this happened to in the least bit. It happens all the time. You should be more aware if you are oging to say things "dont" happen and check to make sure it actually doesnt. You dont have to reply back even though i know you wont be able to help it. But i wont be answering. Have a blessed day :)
Have you ever heard of misogynoir? Maybe you should try reading some scholarly articles about this stuff with actual hard evidence. It's always incredible to me that people like yourself speak with your chest, when they are so inaccurate. Do your research.
@@jumpsurfer how about don't pander. you can talk about people and a topic without pandering. just tell it how it is. you don't have to scream it loudly over and over thay you're pro whatever. your actions would show it.
@@JimmyCooks969 Still it jammed him after the fact if he would try to get an appeal. There was too much circumstantial evidence that cased him to be found guilty like the gun powder on his hands. Plus witness account didn't help.
How do you go on rant about believe black women to not believing the black woman who claims to have slept with drake?😂 I just find it ironic hiw Mal said he doesn't understand why black women aren't believed, then a few moments later his answer comes in the form of another story involving a black woman wanting him to believe she smashed Drake. Beautiful Serendipity lol
Mal PLEASE never go on any sports podcast 😭 how has this man’s takes not changed. To make it worse he probably think he know some shit cause he carry Julius Randle workout bag 😂😂
Never forget Tory smashed Mal’s girl and he been hating on him ever since. I still remember the episode on JBP where Joe exposed it. This man really still bitter after all this time. Also remember the episode where Tory called in and pressed Mal, Mal was copping pleas. I’ll never take Mal’s opinion on anything related Tory Lanez serious
Y’all didn’t mention her saying she had her back toward them, but all of sudden it’s Tory that shot and said “dance bitch”. I think she wasn’t sure but was told it had to be him and there was no turning back from there. This shxt got old to hear about already tho.
Wow really Mal..I think a professional BBall can say that about MJ vs Bron and it be true..the times have showed that Brons era of basketball is tougher..Scottie going off in front of Future n saying idgaf after every 3
Then why did the ONLY Sober person who watched the debacle say she shot the Gun? and how come the women didn't mention the fight? If a 5' 4 was shooting over a Full Sized Suv, why would the assistant have gun powder on her hands? The media is a weird place; there was a lot more to gain by supporting Megan the drunk Battle horse than to lose. The reason why the relationship matters, because it makes the connection on why she was kicked out of the Jenner house. Last point; Why the else would someone need immunity to testify??????!!!!!! Public opinion had their mind decided 2 years ago; and then Melli went on twitter to tell the truth for Tory. The story she provided lined up; but somehow no one noticed that. Mal is quick to call someone sucka, when in reality, Tory Lanez got finessed.- A person who never blamed Roc nation as Yalls cop out for credibility. Clown shit HOW COME THE WITNESS DIDN'T MENTION 'THE DANCE' PHRASE?!?!
@@lisagirly95 he said he saw it closest to the women’s hands for the first flash. Now why else would a flash come from a woman with a female gun and just finished having a love triangle fight with her best friend? Hmm. Oh yea, the witness stated that the fight was long between the women, which would explain the lumps on Megan when she was in the ambulance.
Mal asked why people don’t believe black women and not to sound like Kenya Barris but.. slavery. A part of the dismantling the black family in effort to subjugate them was to incept distrust of the matriarch
Lol u felt the same way about that kenny Lattimore exclusive mj was playing 😂 no one was asking for a dubb of that shit. " kenny Lattimore, hes a friend of mine"
This case wasn’t about justice or Meg being a victim of abuse, it was about a vindictive scorn ex trying to railroad an innocent man. Tory ain’t shoot that girl. She just mad he dubbed her for Kylie and exposed her for snaking her best friend. We all know she was in a fist fight with her best friend that night and the witness said the girl went to the car to get the gun and started shooting. Tory hopped out after. Nothing about the prosecutors story lined up. They couldn’t even get the correct car door Tory came out of. They refused to call the one impartial witness who saw everything. They failed to dna test Kelsey when she’s a legit suspect. This was about nailing Tory to a cross and making an example out of him for going against the system
Drakes hits, dont hit the same anymore. HYFR vs. Money Trees? And after this recent kendrick tour, i gotta see kung fu kenny. Drake is not going to age well. This is just my opinion, but it's hard to go back and listen to his hits. Drake B sides are fire, though. Kendrick is a very pro black artist and is a tougher listen. Being that most of the crew here isn't black, I expect them to pick Drake. Drake is great because he makes it easy to listen to his music. Still picking kenny doe,
🐼🐼🐼 So let's just forget there was a whole altercation between Meg and Kelsey. Everyone acting like Meg is innocent in this. "Protect black women", so Kelsey doesn't count? Meg literally dragged her up and down the street. Meg also LIED! I'm not trusting anyone who can just pull a lie out of their ass as such.
Everyone lies, so that means you can't trust anyone. The incident was pretty black and white. She was shot and there were 3 people there who could've done it. The key witness saw Tory shoot multiple times. It's an easy case.
@janeli well the court docs and video show meg going around the car putting paws on kelsey then walking away from the car and you see gunshots...and then tory runs around the suv and you see more gunshots....
To Rory & Mal, Demaris, Edin, Julian, Bais and the rest of the team:
Wishing you all a very successful New Year of podding and good health! Looking forward to see what the new studio is going to look like! Ignore the haters and the negativity in the comment section. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. We all won't agree on anything, ever. That's a fact. Haters gon' hate. Winners gon' win! Peace & Love and everything in between.
B E S T P O D C A S T E V E R
Rory and Mal without guest is one of the Best Pods period. I probably laugh more with then than any other Pod and I still listen to Joe
2023 and we still here for the pod 🫡
personally I’m just checking ‘em out again. (I’m from Joe Budden pod camp.) 🏕️😂
@@undrgrouknight same lol. I can only watch 5-10 minutes of Rory and Mal. The "cool guy" shit is drying out. They might as well hang it up. They both said themselves they don't care about poddin. Lol it's clearly being shown.
@@tiffanymeriwether7687nobody asked lol.
@@tiffanymeriwether7687 lol the narcasism spreads from joe to his fans its hilarious
Rory gonna have a pillow that say nigga on it just laying around his crib is crazy as hell lmaoooo
Not gonna lie, as much as I like Mal, his old NBA brain be killing me lol
Mals dope till he talks hoop. I agree MJ is the goat but I can’t stand listening to mal talk NBA in general cuz he doesn’t really know what he’s talking about at all
Honestly unbearable lmao. Love Mal tho
He talk hoops like an old head. But usually the old heads be having an unnatural amount of basketball knowledge when they make their takes. Mal doesn’t. Lol
@@devanstephens7299 its not only hoops.. hes an old head in many aspects lol
Don't forget Mal is 41...😊
Rory doing The Weekend voice on “The Ride” at 53:40 took me out 😂
“I GOT A BONE TO PICK” 😭😭😭
HILARIOUS!!
My mother is a black woman and she told me herself not believe everything from everyone. If I believed everything a woman of any color or man of any color had told me I would be lost out here. Facts first.
And the facts are, Tory shot Meg!
@@YASISOYYO nah the story is Tory shot Meg, we have three people here two of which had gun powder residue and one witness who said the two women were fighting as well as other stories. You have one person “ Kelsey” who got immunity to not be charged for anything involving the case, who also released a diss called who shot you. if Kelsey was 100% innocent why would immunity be necessary? I don’t know what happened and I’m not going to believe everything I’m told when the only real evidence is Tory saying I’m sorry for everything over a jail call. This is messy altercation between friends.
Don’t speak to much facts cuz the truth hurts
Facts were that Tory is guilty.
FACT
I believe facts not people. Doesn’t matter if they’re black white or green.
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Good sadly most people hold biases that cloud their judgments
Real talk
Speak the truth! 💯
What if a black woman presents facts?
Giving a FULL SHOW? Y'all know you're going to see Kendrick. That's a whole art performance. Drake's giving you SLAPS all night, very different atmosphere.
That pillow in RORY home is crazy lmao
Funny episode. Mal gonna go dolo to a drake concert to get sung love ballads to
People trip me out with the “she was out two days later” narrative when , if you followed her social media during that time, it was four weeks before she was out in public. She had surgery and had to stay at the hospital for about a day or two then she had to under go physical therapy too. People just say and believe anything.
It's ok for Mal to stand up for WOC, for anyone that's upset about it. It's totally ok.
Ironically naming this episode “Why Don’t We Believe Black Women?” to start talking about how they believed Meg then switch over to the topic about the Black girl from the Drake story and the cast not believing her. 😂
Love the support for Megan, but how does Drake get a pass for his bars about her??
Kendrick outrapping... emphasis on rapping drake anytime of the day any day of the week any week of the month any month of the year..
What is rapping to you, I be confused cos I barely hear Kendrick rap ever
@@summer8616 huh?
- "Those timestamp songs can go Verzuz w/ any rapper"
- "How many of those does he have? "
-" 4 "😄😄🤦🏿♂️
yall think rory leaves that pillow out after the pod? lmaooo 😂
Of course!!!!! Lol Mal is Rory's side chick. The pillow says alot. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
its bothering my OCD that they didn't put Rory's pillow up on the other side of the couch (you can see it laid down by Rory)
@@rob_bg1668 😂😂😂😂 Mal's has become Rory's side chick. Mal got his feet up and no shoes on...yeah he's relax wit his ginger daddy smh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would 😂😂😂
@@FTHRLCRX_CLLSRCMPNY 😂😂😂😂😂
I understand the "believe all women" sentiment, because for years abusers got away with their abuse, so in a way to counter that we sometimes have to go to the extreme. However it is problematic because folks forget that lying on someone is equally an abusive act.
But the same folks who were defending Tory were the same ones who said "well we weren't there, so we don't know", with that you would think that would be a neutral stand, but no they defended Tory like he got shot...thats what I didn't understand.
You know those family members who defend their serial killer relative and swear that it could never be them and say "its impossible, even if they were caught on tape, that's what it was like.
The media I support definitely change after seeing how this all played out.
& what media is that ?
There has never been any sense behind a “believe all women” narrative. Abuse of all forms has always existed and effected every type of person from all walks of life. No special treatment or favoritism should be afforded to anyone when concern for any victim should be across the board. That narrative was only established to divide and further hatred between genders.
Tory is innocent. Nobody reading all that
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Ya'll forgetting Miami Bass is its own thing. That's their sound. Thanks Luke and the 2 Live Crew
SINGING LIGHT UP TO MAL IS CRAZY 😂😂😂
Mal telling Dirk to watch his mouth is Hilarious 😭
Not gonna lie, hearing people say they're tired of talking about Megans abuse is weird to me, we lose so many people to gun violence, talking about it should be a burden. we just lost Take Off, I would never stop talking about that or feel a way speaking on it.
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It’s okay to be tired of it because most of these celebs don’t move right
@@treychapo1898 moving right is subjective and regular people get shot everyday for nothing. So gun violence should be talked about whether its a celebrity or not.
I get Tory was convicted, but why are we missing the witness, the lady that was in the house that came outside and said she seen a blast come from Kelsey's hand, not Tory's let's remember that.
The amount of bitter women hating men in this comment section they clearly don’t even know what the charges actually were is wild! Stop getting your news from the shadwroom 🥴
Women like to think with emotions.
I like to look at the facts.
I know y’all heard about Vanessa Posso lying on Gervonta Davis about him trying to killing her and hitting her his daughter. Y’all gon pod about that too right?
Not on this episode.
The Drake flewed out convo and the solo attendance at K. Dot and Drake’s concert convos had me in tears 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Assault refers to the wrong act of causing someone to reasonably fear imminent harm. This means that the fear must be something a reasonable person would foresee as threatening to them. Battery refers to the actual wrong act of physically harming someone.
I think the law reads as “the intent to create apprehension” I’m not sure though just throwing that out.
@@Nothingregular That's one of the 3 (or four) elements of assault.
Elements of Assault
intent,
apprehension of a harmful contact, and.
causation.
An assault is an unlawful attempt, coupled with a present ability, to commit a violent injury on the person of another.
We don’t believe people when they seem to be liars. We believed old girl about Doodie Lo. Now she being sued for defamation of character. Shit happens.
Literally was about to say something similar 💯
Facts. Meg was shaky from the beginning.
@@whoudini08 they try to put a cold narrative on us bruh
@@wpbdog1625 from the moment she said “for no reason”
@@FreeMindScoop what reason do you need to shoot someone.. please enlighten me.
I need y’all to look at that nut ass top 200 singers list from Rolling Stones
Nobody is saying believe ALL Black women. I think the question at hand is Why is it an intra- and inter- societally accepted to DOUBT Black women. Whether people want to admit it or not Black women are doubted for their pain. In the home, at the hospital, and in the courts. It's not about why didn't you believe her. It's more about why did people keep trying to build evidence against her than support a physically (and mentally) hurt person
Mal got a crush on Drake.
Big crush
** MJ
Drunk or sober, Rory with the “light up” verse is funny
The facts don’t Line up with Tory being found guilty
The witness also said he saw kelsey shoot too lmao yall leaving that part out...
I’m going to the Kendrick concert.
Megan was in the hospital for four days. That dancing after two days was some more blog shit.
You right cause in the movies when people get hit with bullets they die immediately 🤣 smdh😐
@@Patrik1st I don’t get what you’re tryna say with this?
She had no nerve damage and the doctor called her wound superficial. She was INDEED up and about.
FREE TORY LANEZ
@@shalondametcalf9726 The hospital documents showed she was in the hospital for four days.
27:29 if you are on a jury and you think everyone lied, then that should lead to a hung jury. I believe that also and i’m willing to bet at least one juror felt the same. To let this go to deliberation before the Christmas holiday was a misstep by the defense.
If you think everyone lied, can you come to a definitive conclusion just based on the evidence? Apparently the jury could.
Fuck all that... We all know in our hearts Tory shot her
@@vanessaspeaks I guess it depends on how those lies affect the presentation of the evidence. I wish it was televised so everybody could see how the trial went instead of the second-hand reporting from all those youtube “reporters” lol
Idk. I didnt think this fanbase was this weird. Mal asked a good question “when did we start hating black women?”
Have you listened to rap at all. Listen to any right leaning black man. Niggas stay disrespecting black woman. The evidence is all there. Now black woman are giving back that energy and niggas are becoming passport bros.
Men are responsible for the overwhelming majority of murder and domestic violence. It’s not surprising many of them will believe that a billionaire like Jay will plot a conspiracy against a celebrity who’s leagues behind him, instead of the very real possibility that he lost his cool while drunk. I knew a lot of this fan base wasn’t shit when they were defending mals comments on suicide. I also think a lot of them see Tory in themselves too, so they’re riding for him like they’d hope others would ride for them in that situation
Ok, he's asked this question about how many black women and did he wait til Meg who is Roc Nation to be the topic of discussion to be concerned all of a sudden?
Go to shaderoom comments under any post to get a good outlook on how our black women think
There’s no way y’all honestly don’t see how Unlikable y’all are. 90% of y’all clown anyone that doesn’t sell drugs, set niggas up to die, brag about lying cheating and stealing. Brag about using men for money and dick. All while having 4 babies by 4 men. Give me 2 reasons why we SHOULDNT dislike yall? Good pussy that is it. Terrible people
Mal being comfortable with Drake singing too sexy is crazy
48:21 i think a better scenario would be if they all drop an album on the same night whos album would u go to first at midnight
We should have known that mal was gonna ride wit roc nation 😂
Lord keep Mal away from any topic concerning Drake. The amount of nut guzzlin in these past few episodes has been insane
Mal a groupie for aubrey 🤢🤮
Yall not talking enough about the equity at the beginning 😂
was that a direct shot at EYL pod?
Anyone remember the games "Altered Beast" and "Streets of Rage"?? Mannnnnn I just got crazy nostalgia lol😁
Am I the only one that caught Julien’s “Bring in Deion”, when mentioning trash NYC college ball teams? Lmaooooo
Raw doggin these days is super crazy !!!!!! If it ain’t your soulmate playa !!! Strap that ish up.
On god
You sound insane
she said she aint know she got shot until the doctors told her that she had fragments in her leg. she also went from saying she had her back turnt and didnt know who shot her to now looking directly a tory. that alone right there doesnt make sense .
She should have never lied trying to protect Tory.🤦🏾♀️
What’s funny is she only said Tory said dance b*tch so she could explain how she knew it was him after she said her back was turned. She never said that initially. Meg is hall of fame cap.
59:05 Mal! You want us to believe black women, including Meg. But you dont want to believe The Boy is rubbing bellies? Pick a side Mal!!! LOL. We are supposed to believe Meg but not her? What if he went RAW and she stepped on some glass after he slapped the phone out her hand?
Mal: You clap after he finishes his songs? 😂😂😂
Seriously no cap tho. Rory songs are FIRE! All made it to me 2022 wrap up
I feel like drakes time stamp records have evoked to time and locations . Because Churchill downs Is also a time stamp record.
Just like Rory said with the ride.
It's time and locations
Drake is Not the best rapper of his generation, the same way Drake isn't the best singer/vocalist of his generation. There are better singers than Drake who aren't as commercially successful as Drake, there're also rappers who are better than Drake who aren't as commercially successful as him. Anyone who argues against this is just dumb
The J Cole disrespect is crazy
this is one of the funniest episodes in a long time, that drake and kendrick segment was great
Hysterical episode!!! I keep laughing at the drake convo hysterical
“Rubbing the tummy tuck” 😂
Nobody:
Mal: “THAT’S A TIMESTAMP RECORD” 😂
I GOT A BONE TO PICK! 😂😂😂😂
Everything is public opinion. This is a Roc Nation podcast as well so yeah…
Whew! These comments!!!! lol Ya'll mad mad!
Niggas tired of the pandering. Shit don’t even be genuine. Niggas just ain’t strong enough to go against the narrative.
@@Nino-zg4ux going against the narrative= victim blaming and taking the abusers side to y’all
Now I remember why I took a hiatus from this channel. Ignorant ass people
Free Tory
mal said believe all black women, then proceeded to talk about a black woman lying in. The next segment is crazy.
Mal works for roc nation.. check coming soon
You really expect me to believe Tory magically teleported from behind the driver seat to the front passenger side and started firing within 2.5 seconds over the window after Megan got out the car and decided to walk away? You expect me to believe he shot her because she dissed his career? That don’t even make sense. The argument was about Megan snaking her best friend. They were in a FIST FIGHT. You can see a knot on Megan’s head while in the ambulance and the injuries Kelsey had from Megan kicking and dragging her in the evidence that got released. The witness saw the fight, he saw the girl go to the car to get the gun and start firing. He himself said Tory got out the backseat not the front seat. Want to know why Megan and Kelsey both didn’t mention the fight they had? IT GIVES KELSEY THE MOTIVe. IT SAVES MEGAN’S IMAGE. Megan literally bragged about snatching Kelsey’s chain that night on a song. There was way too much reasonable doubt in this case.
You typed all that to say what? This didn't happen in a matter of seconds. It was a whole ordeal..just deal with it. The man is guilty.
@@thatraspyshxt Megan said Tory shot her within seconds of getting out the car. I didn’t say it, Megan and prosecutors did
@MakaveliG17C he shot her. Period. Like what more do yall want. You rather sit here and try to analyze this shit so much because you just can't fathom the fact that Tory would do something as heinous as he did. As if men and women don't do worse everyday. Like cut it out.
I can see Drake singing “Best i Ever Had” and “Were Going Home” to Rory 🤣🤣
The performance is one thing but as a RAPPER is Kendrick, Kendrick would rap circles around Drake
🧢
@@mikielwade7109 ‘i could never have a kid and still be out here kidding around’ - drake 2018.
‘lie about getting shot but she still a stallion’-drake 2022. Drake sabotages his own career with his own bars 💀💀💀
@@angelusgnz5784 If you truly believe people gaf about that line and thinks hes sabotaging his career off of it then thats ur reality i gotta respect it
Niggas really think kendrick is superman and everyone else is flawed and beneath him foh😂😂
@@mikielwade7109 I have yet to give you any opinion. I gave you his own lines and the actual fact that he’s tainted his career with lines like those when he’s so obviously a hypocrite. “No friends in the industry” was insane to actually hear drake make fun of himself and be so blissfully unaware that he’s talking about himself. It’s okay to admit Drake has shot him self in the foot plenty of times with his own bars and then backed out when it’s too much for him. It’s okay to say that buddy, Drake doesn’t know you. He’ll be fine lol.
I think Mal is in so deep he ain’t got no choice but to say what he sayin cause I truly feel he don’t believe nobody believe black women cause that’s cap 🧢
It's not. Because alot of black women feel like they're not believed. Whether its by their own family, friends, the justice system, the medical system. It's true. So no cap, just facts..
A lot of black men sound very similar to how white ppl sound when you try to talk to them about racism or micro aggressions that black ppl experience. They swear it doesn’t exist and it’s cap lol.
You won’t see it unless you’re in it. I’m in university right now for nursing and we learned that black women are not taken seriously even in medicine. It’s believed that they have a higher threshold for pain so their concerns are often dismissed. This is being taught in a white educational institution. Not an HBCU. It’s just facts.
Not saying believe all black women. Just don’t doubt them when they speak.
The thumbnail 😂
Should be Meg on there
Just pulling a gun in a threatening manner is a chargeable offense
Can’t leave Cole out the mix with Drake, and Kendrick!!
THAT part
Are black women oppressed, perpetual victims who need protection or are they strong, empowered, independent queens who don't need a man? Can we pick a side already? Im about sick of the narrative switching depending on the convenience. Which one is it?
When no one is protecting you, you have to be strong. When no one is providing for you, you have to be independent.
@@ShinyWon Y'all started kicking black men out of the household so that the government could give y'all that sweet welfare money and y'all sold out black families for your independence. Go do some research. Now one minute y'all want to be treated like delicate, powerless beings who need to be given grace, protection and leadership. The next minute y'all want to be treated like empowered women who are equals and can do anything a man can do. If female empowerment is the move, cut out the "protect black women" nonsense. It makes y'all look silly. Pick a side already.
Reading this comment section I’ve realized that black men and white supremicist have a very similar rhetoric when it comes to their opinions on marginalized communities
@@AboveAve100 The same white supremacists that brainwashed yall to kick men out the household for a government check? Yea ok. The real question is, are you an empowered strong independent queen who is equal to a man and doesn't need a man for anything? If so, I don't want to hear anything about "protect black women". The women who really want protection act accordingly and receive it without hesitation. You can't drag men every chance you get and then expect these same men to protect you.
@@Swayze_S.L A human got shot. They should be protected. What are you on about?
This title couldn’t even get them 50K views 😂😂😂
The one thing mentioned 1000 times by Mal in this Podcast..is that Meg is a black woman...I think ever since Mal got called out for being a colorist or a guy that slanders black women, he has been going OD in the opposite direction. Like when Joe made sure to have brown skin female co-host on state of the culture and an all female podcast network, to prove he was not what the public said. (sorry for bringing him up). But the fact is, the one thing that incident, the case, her lying and people not believing her have NOTHING to do with..is the fact that Meg is a black woman. I bet him, Julian or any of them could not name any other case, where a black woman accused a man of violence, and the public gave her backlash. Mal is acting like it happens every month. The title of the podcast is ridiculous.
The Eliza Fletcher case is a perfect example.
Mal Thee Stallion
Seeing as you are not a black woman and speaking on this, i can tell you very much so that you are incorrect and THAT is why Mal spoke up and said something. He is also NOT the only person in the public idea to speak up and say the exact same sentiment on black women never being believed and having to just through hoops just for someone to take us seriously. You might just feel this way bc you dont like Meg, but she is not the only black woman this happened to in the least bit. It happens all the time. You should be more aware if you are oging to say things "dont" happen and check to make sure it actually doesnt. You dont have to reply back even though i know you wont be able to help it. But i wont be answering. Have a blessed day :)
@@captaincheer07give me a case where a black women wasn’t believed?
Have you ever heard of misogynoir? Maybe you should try reading some scholarly articles about this stuff with actual hard evidence. It's always incredible to me that people like yourself speak with your chest, when they are so inaccurate. Do your research.
Would I sound sexiest or misogynistic if I say say that the Mal and Rory pandered and almost made me fast forward until they were done?
not at all. The title is nasty in itself.
not at all fam , part of me wants to sit through just to hear what they say but I know Ima get irritated
I mean, if they pondered to Tory fans you wouldn't say anything. Stop being soft and think for yourself
Not necessarily but I’d bet a good amount of money that you probably are or have at least voiced some very misogynistic opinions
@@jumpsurfer how about don't pander. you can talk about people and a topic without pandering. just tell it how it is. you don't have to scream it loudly over and over thay you're pro whatever. your actions would show it.
I got a bone ta pick!🤣🤣🤣
Tory messed himself up with that jail call. No on his team told him to shut up lol.
That call didn’t get him convicted. It proved nothing
@@JimmyCooks969 Still it jammed him after the fact if he would try to get an appeal. There was too much circumstantial evidence that cased him to be found guilty like the gun powder on his hands. Plus witness account didn't help.
They said he flew her in on the GTA Vice City plane🤣😭
Great episode 😂🤣 I laughed too much when they started talking about Drake!!
How do you go on rant about believe black women to not believing the black woman who claims to have slept with drake?😂
I just find it ironic hiw Mal said he doesn't understand why black women aren't believed, then a few moments later his answer comes in the form of another story involving a black woman wanting him to believe she smashed Drake. Beautiful Serendipity lol
Mal PLEASE never go on any sports podcast 😭 how has this man’s takes not changed. To make it worse he probably think he know some shit cause he carry Julius Randle workout bag 😂😂
“Love me!🎶” 😂😂😂
“I’m in a position where I’m always going to believe when a black woman says they were shot”. What does this even mean
Rubbing a women belly then asking her do she want kids is wild 😂I’m crying
Dipping into a different type of bag
He also said he saw her shoot as well you're forgetting that
People have selective hearing
He said he saw 1 flash from her, the audio proved that one person shot that weapon 5 steady times 🤷♀️
Never forget Tory smashed Mal’s girl and he been hating on him ever since. I still remember the episode on JBP where Joe exposed it. This man really still bitter after all this time. Also remember the episode where Tory called in and pressed Mal, Mal was copping pleas. I’ll never take Mal’s opinion on anything related Tory Lanez serious
Exactly you been watching this shit since The JBP im glad im not the only that knew that. Fam really felt away about it😂
Who cares that doesn't change the fact that tory is guilty.
Plus he knows alot of people at roc Nation 💯
@@IndigoUchiha26 who cares............
What does Tory being Eskimo bros with Mal have to do with him crashing his life out and bussing guns at women?
Ron artest listening to Pooh shiesty 🤔😂😂
Y’all didn’t mention her saying she had her back toward them, but all of sudden it’s Tory that shot and said “dance bitch”. I think she wasn’t sure but was told it had to be him and there was no turning back from there. This shxt got old to hear about already tho.
Just aiming a gun at someone is considered an assault with a deadly weapon
Wow really Mal..I think a professional BBall can say that about MJ vs Bron and it be true..the times have showed that Brons era of basketball is tougher..Scottie going off in front of Future n saying idgaf after every 3
Then why did the ONLY Sober person who watched the debacle say she shot the Gun? and how come the women didn't mention the fight? If a 5' 4 was shooting over a Full Sized Suv, why would the assistant have gun powder on her hands? The media is a weird place; there was a lot more to gain by supporting Megan the drunk Battle horse than to lose. The reason why the relationship matters, because it makes the connection on why she was kicked out of the Jenner house. Last point; Why the else would someone need immunity to testify??????!!!!!! Public opinion had their mind decided 2 years ago; and then Melli went on twitter to tell the truth for Tory. The story she provided lined up; but somehow no one noticed that. Mal is quick to call someone sucka, when in reality, Tory Lanez got finessed.- A person who never blamed Roc nation as Yalls cop out for credibility. Clown shit
HOW COME THE WITNESS DIDN'T MENTION 'THE DANCE' PHRASE?!?!
You know it’s against the agenda to speak facts
@@jalilsharief1192 ahh the agenda. Only an agenda when it goes against your bias. "Intelligent" response
Didn't say she shot the gun, said he saw flashes near her, he said he saw tory shooting everywhere
@@lisagirly95 he said he saw it closest to the women’s hands for the first flash. Now why else would a flash come from a woman with a female gun and just finished having a love triangle fight with her best friend? Hmm. Oh yea, the witness stated that the fight was long between the women, which would explain the lumps on Megan when she was in the ambulance.
Which also confirms the story that melii, Tory’s artist shared.
Christian Okoye for the chiefs was a cheat code on Tecmo Bowl 🤣‼️
Mal asked why people don’t believe black women and not to sound like Kenya Barris but.. slavery. A part of the dismantling the black family in effort to subjugate them was to incept distrust of the matriarch
You're right. Black women were often beat by their 'husbands' because they were raped.
Mal and Rory looking to keep those Roc Nation checks coming
I was wondering why Mal so passionate about defending Meg I forgot he was affiliated 🤑
Lol u felt the same way about that kenny Lattimore exclusive mj was playing 😂 no one was asking for a dubb of that shit. " kenny Lattimore, hes a friend of mine"
This case wasn’t about justice or Meg being a victim of abuse, it was about a vindictive scorn ex trying to railroad an innocent man. Tory ain’t shoot that girl. She just mad he dubbed her for Kylie and exposed her for snaking her best friend. We all know she was in a fist fight with her best friend that night and the witness said the girl went to the car to get the gun and started shooting. Tory hopped out after. Nothing about the prosecutors story lined up. They couldn’t even get the correct car door Tory came out of. They refused to call the one impartial witness who saw everything. They failed to dna test Kelsey when she’s a legit suspect. This was about nailing Tory to a cross and making an example out of him for going against the system
these guys acting like drake doesnt have some of the corniest things ever if hes alone in an arena with you lol
In a club hosting ERA...
Draya vs Amber Rose...
IF IT AIN'T SNOWING WE AIN'T GOING
STAY IN THA POOL WIFF KYLIE
Passport brooooo
Mike LOVED Kenny Lattimore. Used to have him at a lot of events. He had Kenny do a mini concert for him and Ahmad Rashad only.
Drakes hits, dont hit the same anymore. HYFR vs. Money Trees? And after this recent kendrick tour, i gotta see kung fu kenny. Drake is not going to age well. This is just my opinion, but it's hard to go back and listen to his hits. Drake B sides are fire, though. Kendrick is a very pro black artist and is a tougher listen. Being that most of the crew here isn't black, I expect them to pick Drake. Drake is great because he makes it easy to listen to his music. Still picking kenny doe,
🐼🐼🐼 So let's just forget there was a whole altercation between Meg and Kelsey. Everyone acting like Meg is innocent in this. "Protect black women", so Kelsey doesn't count? Meg literally dragged her up and down the street. Meg also LIED! I'm not trusting anyone who can just pull a lie out of their ass as such.
Everyone lies, so that means you can't trust anyone.
The incident was pretty black and white. She was shot and there were 3 people there who could've done it.
The key witness saw Tory shoot multiple times. It's an easy case.
@@jaareshiahq2106 The key witness also saw "the lady" shoot.
Meg dragged kelsey up and down the street ? Who told you this lie ?
@@janeli4616 probably academics or Facebook
@janeli well the court docs and video show meg going around the car putting paws on kelsey then walking away from the car and you see gunshots...and then tory runs around the suv and you see more gunshots....