Don't give up if things don't work out, it has been my dream for years as well but I wasn't in a good mental state to pursue it at the end of year 12 and my ATAR suffered, but after doing a Biomedical bachelor and getting my life into order I can still pursue my dream. If you are passionate anything is possible
Unrelated but you speak so well🎉 I am currently a pharmacist planning to study medicine in Australian soon, currently offshore, I hope that is possible?
Interesting! I guess the advantage you guys have is that you specialise (relatively) early on, whereas we have to do general years after graduating for a few years before choosing a speciality. But the downside of your system (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that: 1) You have to make that decision as to what you want to specialise in very early in your career (if I picked what I was interested in at the beginning of 3rd year, I'd be going down the surgery route and that's the complete opposite of what I'm interested in now) 2) If you don't match into the residency program that you want to, isn't it virtually impossible to change programs?
@@kjmd Yes, 1) that is the major downside. you do need to figure out what you want early on 2) it's uncommon for people not to match (except if going for very competitive specialty + competitive location), but not impossible to change programs However, despite all this, upon finishing residency, you start earnings the big bucks right out of the gate!
@@dimitardimitrov9482 family medicine is a 2 year residency after medical school in Canada. Many do however, go on to further subspecialize within family medicine including doing an extra year of training in OB/ER/Anesthesia/hospitalist or pain
Hi Kajanan, I would like to know the pathway for Domestic Student in Medicine in Australia, who completed (10+2) and which is the best program for them.
Hi Vijay, I am unfamiliar with the nomenclature (10+2), but I assume it means the equivalent completion of Year 12 in Australia. Honestly, I would recommend applying to all of the undergraduate medical programs across Australia as getting into Medicine is quite competitive and most people are lucky to get any offers, let alone at a particular university. The undergraduate programs are either 5 or 6 years depending on the university you attend, so because I personally would prefer a shorter duration of training, I would suggest universities like the University of Newcastle or Western Sydney University. But I'll reiterate that any Australian medical program will be excellent quality, it's more important to consider the other aspects like which city you want to live in etc. If you scroll down in this article, there's a list of all the undergraduate programs in Australia and New Zealand (including the guaranteed entry programs): www.kajanan.com/the-pathway-to-becoming-a-consultant-doctor-in-australia/ Hope that helps!
very well and elaborately explained each aspect pls can you tell how does one start the application process to apply to possible direct entry MBBS program/accredited agents who can do the needful ?? tks in advance
Absolutely brilliant. Do you know competitive it is to get onto the physicians pathway? Also, do you have to specialise after or can you just be a generalist?
My understanding of the getting onto physician training is that it's quite variable in terms of competition. Certain networks (e.g. Sydney LHD and specifically Royal Prince Alfred Hospital) are quite competitive to get onto whereas other networks (e.g. Hunter New England LHD) are much less competitive and sometimes not all the Basic Physician Training (BPT) jobs are filled in a year. If you solely complete BPT and pass the exams without pursuing advanced training, I'm not sure whether you could work as a 'generalist' (and I'm not sure what you mean by generalist in this context). If you want to work as a general medicine physician, then you would need to do advanced training in general medicine, the same as if you wanted to pursue any other speciality like cardiology, nephrology etc. You probably could work in medical registrar jobs, but since you only attain the fellowship (and letters) from the college if you complete an advanced training program, I think you would be fairly limited in your scope of practice without completing this. Hope that helps!
Hey, thanks for such an informative video. I'm doing my MBBS from India, with 1 year compulsory internship and also have 2 years bond of working in a primary health care hospital. Will these 3 years of work be counted in Australia in PGY years when I apply in job or in a training program?
Thanks for your comment! To be honest, I’m not sure about the process for IMGs, sorry! However, if you check out the following channels: 1) Emergency Focus 2) Career Doctor | Adj Assoc Prof Anthony Llewellyn 3) IMG’s Guide with Dr. KP Balan they have a lot more specific information for IMGs. Hope that helps!
Thank u sir. Is it possible for a IMg to get into surgery specialty training after gaining the full registration? Is there people who have achieved that? Many say surgery is a big impossibility for IMg but that's my husband's passion 😭he refuses to migrate if he couldn't get into surgery, pls give ur advise on this
Hey, thanks for this awesome vid! You said psychiatry and GPs are far less competitive. I was just wondering do you have to complete time as an unaccredited registrar for either of these professions? If so, how long can you expect to spend doing this?
Thank you! So, starting with Psychiatry, it’s certainly possible to get onto without having done any unaccredited registrar time. You can apply for the program even during internship and get onto it as a PGY2. However, in some parts of the country where it may be more competitive (e.g. metro QLD), then you may have to do an unaccredited year if you are unsuccessful in getting straight onto the program. However, if you are willing to train rurally, this expands your options much more. I have never heard of anyone needing to do more than 1 unaccredited year before getting on but then again I’ve only met like
Hey, thanks for this video! I’m currently a second year med student and have been killing for a simple explanation on this all - just a few questions, 1) do you know how competitive a sports medicine physician is (not surgical) and how job opportunities for that look like in the city? 2) Also, do you know about the lifestyle for it? I’ve been feeling demotivated since hearing about how gruelling training will be in the future (which I had no idea about when entering med school) - I’m looking for a solid lifestyle and don’t want to spend all my twenties working night shifts / studying, but all I’ve been hearing so far from everyone is that I’ve chosen the wrong profession for lifestyle haha - 3) do you have any insight about maintaining a lifestyle during the training years post-med school? Thanks!
Hey, thanks for leaving a comment and sorry about the delay in responding. 1) I need to preface this answer by saying I don't really know a lot about the Sports Med pathway. From what I do think I know, becoming a sports medicine physician is quite difficult as there isn't many jobs around and often sports med physicians have to do other things (e.g. locum in ED) to make a full-time living. Check out SEMSA for more info (facebook.com/SEMSA.au/) 2) Again, not too sure about the lifestyle of a sports medicine physician but I would assume it would have less nights since not much sport happens overnight. Again, would recommend the above FB group which is the med students association related to sports medicine. 3) It is hard, especially at the start, because work is a different pace to being in med school and very draining and don't be surprised if you can't do a lot of the same things that you could previously just because you're so tired by the end of the day. I think give yourself some slack, acknowledge that some rotations are busier than others and some days you just can't exercise / do other self-care things because there's not enough hours in the day to do them + work + sleep (esp if you have to do 14+ hour days which happens sometimes). Trying to get a good schedule/routine going is probably your best friend as there's just less hours in the day once you start work and thus you have to be more "productive" if you want to get the same amount of things done. Also, you can consider job-sharing (i.e. working part-time) - yes this delays progression, but if it allows you to be happier throughout the journey, then that's defs worth it. In saying that, it's incredibly hard to do because you feel the constant pressure of wanting to keep up with everyone else around you who's working full-time. That's kind've all I can say off the top of my head, maybe I'll make an entire video on this last point, so thanks for leaving a comment!
Hi Sir, can u please tell me how many hours a cardiologist or any specialist need to work per week and how much earning by working that amount in Sydney? ❤
@@BabyKitty000 same process - can either do GAMSAT to enter via graduate pathway (4 years) if you’ve done another degree or UCAT to enter undergraduate pathway (5-6 years), then common pathway once you’re working as a doctor.
Hi Kajanan , im a IMG from malaysia with mrcp UK with 3 years experience as specialist in malaysia, i would like to relocate to australia and work there, wat are the procedures , tq 🙏
Hi Komala, thanks for your comment 😊 I would really love to help you, but the truth is, I don't know much about the procedures for relocating as an IMG. Here's a link (advancemed.com.au/doctor-job-australia/) to AdvanceMed (The Career Doctor) who has published a few videos and articles on how IMGs can work in Australia. His content may be better able to answer your questions and you can get in touch with him to specifically ask him questions. I hope this helps!
It depends on what you mean by worth it? Also, do you want to live in Australia? Do you want to return back to India after training in Australia? It's hard to say without knowing a little bit more about your situation.
@@kjmd worth it means.... Is there best universities for obgyn there?? Coz i didn't get the exact info in google & i wanna get a job there after completing my MS/MD. Ya i wanna settle there for long & after if i feel like 'the right time to go back' i wanna also come back to india.
Hey mate, I used the following plugin pack from Pixel Film Studios: store.pixelfilmstudios.com/product/fcpx-characters-and-props/ They're useful, but Pixel Film Studios' plugins are very buggy and almost more effort than they're worth. I had to export the video like 8 times because of the issues with this particular plugin. I wouldn't recommend them (though unfortunately I don't have an alternative suggestion for a similar product).
Im in year 9 and hoping to become a gp. Any chance you could tell me, because i was fairly busy while watching this, what subjects would be required in highschool and approximately how long it would take. Great explanation and video btw👍
Depends on the university, some have no pre-requisite subjects, some do. Chemistry and English seem to be the most common ones. In terms of what is somewhat related, obviously biology and chemistry are to some extent but really you just need to do the subjects you like and that you are most likely to do well in. I’m not sure what you mean with the second part of your question regarding how long it would take. Med school takes 5-6 years for undergraduate programs or 4 years for postgraduate programs (in addition to whatever undergraduate degree you’ve done).
Hey mate, the structure of the video is amazing, thank you so much! I wanted to ask wether you get paid during your PGY1 aka intern, and beyond, and if so is it reasonable to support yourself and save some money for the future?
No worries, glad it was of assistance! Yes, you do get paid from internship and beyond. As someone without any other dependents or any debts outside of HECS, it's more than enough to survive in Australia and have some left over to save/invest/enjoy certain luxuries in life like travel. You certainly get paid better than in some other countries like the UK. This is a link to the NSW Health Professional EBA which is publicly available data (www.health.nsw.gov.au/careers/conditions/Awards/he-profmed-salaries.pdf). It includes what the income of an intern and subsequent level doctor is and also the incomes of other health professionals. Different states pay their doctors differently and NSW is one of the lowest paying states.
I'm from india and want your more help to know how to become a doctor can you please explain me clearly only in the comment section. Just write the programmes and the entrance test required I'd completed my high school and now planning for 6 year programme in Australia please explain me full process. I'll be greatly thankful to you
Hi, I’m not really sure how to answer this. What do you mean by programmes? Do you mean University subjects or something else? What is this 6 year programme that you are planning to do in Australia? Have you already got a place at a University in Australia or do you still need to find one?
Of course you can! Many people who I went to medical school with had already completed some undergraduate program and there are many postgraduate programs out there!
@@kjmd what's the way for me to get into ? When it comes to Masters in Social Work or Psychology RMIT University said I can't coz I don't have a bachelors in the same field, So could you please let me know the process to get into medical school here in Melbourne ?
Brilliant presentation. My daughter is a second year doctor in Newcastle and is hoping to become a oncologist. A long road ahead for sure
That's great, congratulations to her and yourself! It certainly is a long road!
Really informative video KJ! Keep educating people, your channel is a blessing to a lot of aspiring students:)
It’s great to see you in action, KJ!
Thanks for watching AJ! Good to hear from you 😊
Hey, I'm a year 9 student but I wanna hard work to be a good doctor in the future this is my childhood dream
All the best on your journey, I’m sure you will succeed!
Don't give up if things don't work out, it has been my dream for years as well but I wasn't in a good mental state to pursue it at the end of year 12 and my ATAR suffered, but after doing a Biomedical bachelor and getting my life into order I can still pursue my dream. If you are passionate anything is possible
This channel will blow up
Just wait
Hahaha thanks for saying that, we'll just have to wait and see :')
Very well-explained! Would love neurology pathway video
Noted, I'll try and make a video on it soon!
Crispy video KJ ! Love it
Hahaha thanks Jarrah!
Thank you so much for this explanation. It's always confusing for me
You're very welcome, glad it was of use!
Great video! Would be keen for Neurology pathway.
Thank you for the comment 😊 I’ll add Neurology to the list but it might be a while before I get around to making a video on it
Unrelated but you speak so well🎉
I am currently a pharmacist planning to study medicine in Australian soon, currently offshore, I hope that is possible?
excellent video! make a video about emergency medicine pathway? and IMGs? much appreciated!
Thank you! Thanks for the suggestions, I'll have a look into it and see if I can make those videos 😄
Very helpful video. Thanks a lot :)
You're welcome!
yikes! that's a long road. Canada/USA is WAY shorter. undergrad 3-4 years, med school 3-4 years, then residency 2-5 years, then finished
Interesting! I guess the advantage you guys have is that you specialise (relatively) early on, whereas we have to do general years after graduating for a few years before choosing a speciality.
But the downside of your system (and correct me if I'm wrong) is that:
1) You have to make that decision as to what you want to specialise in very early in your career (if I picked what I was interested in at the beginning of 3rd year, I'd be going down the surgery route and that's the complete opposite of what I'm interested in now)
2) If you don't match into the residency program that you want to, isn't it virtually impossible to change programs?
@@kjmd Yes,
1) that is the major downside. you do need to figure out what you want early on
2) it's uncommon for people not to match (except if going for very competitive specialty + competitive location), but not impossible to change programs
However, despite all this, upon finishing residency, you start earnings the big bucks right out of the gate!
@@yunshiggyIt's hard to imagine a residency program being only 2 years. Am I missing something here?
@@dimitardimitrov9482 family medicine is a 2 year residency after medical school in Canada. Many do however, go on to further subspecialize within family medicine including doing an extra year of training in OB/ER/Anesthesia/hospitalist or pain
Hi brother how to contact you im a img doctor from india
Hi sir can u tell the pathway for specialist OBG from india
Really informative video!
Thank you!
Hi Kajanan, I would like to know the pathway for Domestic Student in Medicine in Australia, who completed (10+2) and which is the best program for them.
Hi Vijay, I am unfamiliar with the nomenclature (10+2), but I assume it means the equivalent completion of Year 12 in Australia. Honestly, I would recommend applying to all of the undergraduate medical programs across Australia as getting into Medicine is quite competitive and most people are lucky to get any offers, let alone at a particular university. The undergraduate programs are either 5 or 6 years depending on the university you attend, so because I personally would prefer a shorter duration of training, I would suggest universities like the University of Newcastle or Western Sydney University. But I'll reiterate that any Australian medical program will be excellent quality, it's more important to consider the other aspects like which city you want to live in etc. If you scroll down in this article, there's a list of all the undergraduate programs in Australia and New Zealand (including the guaranteed entry programs): www.kajanan.com/the-pathway-to-becoming-a-consultant-doctor-in-australia/
Hope that helps!
That was great, cheers!
No problems at all! Glad it was useful 😊
very well and elaborately explained each aspect
pls can you tell how does one start the application process to apply to possible direct entry MBBS program/accredited agents who can do the needful ??
tks in advance
Thank you so much!
Sorry, I'm not quite sure I understand the question. If you could please rephrase it, I will try my best to find an answer.
Absolutely brilliant. Do you know competitive it is to get onto the physicians pathway? Also, do you have to specialise after or can you just be a generalist?
My understanding of the getting onto physician training is that it's quite variable in terms of competition. Certain networks (e.g. Sydney LHD and specifically Royal Prince Alfred Hospital) are quite competitive to get onto whereas other networks (e.g. Hunter New England LHD) are much less competitive and sometimes not all the Basic Physician Training (BPT) jobs are filled in a year.
If you solely complete BPT and pass the exams without pursuing advanced training, I'm not sure whether you could work as a 'generalist' (and I'm not sure what you mean by generalist in this context). If you want to work as a general medicine physician, then you would need to do advanced training in general medicine, the same as if you wanted to pursue any other speciality like cardiology, nephrology etc. You probably could work in medical registrar jobs, but since you only attain the fellowship (and letters) from the college if you complete an advanced training program, I think you would be fairly limited in your scope of practice without completing this.
Hope that helps!
Hey, thanks for such an informative video. I'm doing my MBBS from India, with 1 year compulsory internship and also have 2 years bond of working in a primary health care hospital. Will these 3 years of work be counted in Australia in PGY years when I apply in job or in a training program?
Thanks for your comment! To be honest, I’m not sure about the process for IMGs, sorry! However, if you check out the following channels:
1) Emergency Focus
2) Career Doctor | Adj Assoc Prof Anthony Llewellyn
3) IMG’s Guide with Dr. KP Balan
they have a lot more specific information for IMGs. Hope that helps!
Thanks
Thank u sir. Is it possible for a IMg to get into surgery specialty training after gaining the full registration? Is there people who have achieved that? Many say surgery is a big impossibility for IMg but that's my husband's passion 😭he refuses to migrate if he couldn't get into surgery, pls give ur advise on this
I want to be a doctor when im old enough :)
Hey, thanks for this awesome vid! You said psychiatry and GPs are far less competitive. I was just wondering do you have to complete time as an unaccredited registrar for either of these professions? If so, how long can you expect to spend doing this?
Thank you!
So, starting with Psychiatry, it’s certainly possible to get onto without having done any unaccredited registrar time. You can apply for the program even during internship and get onto it as a PGY2. However, in some parts of the country where it may be more competitive (e.g. metro QLD), then you may have to do an unaccredited year if you are unsuccessful in getting straight onto the program. However, if you are willing to train rurally, this expands your options much more. I have never heard of anyone needing to do more than 1 unaccredited year before getting on but then again I’ve only met like
@@kjmd Thanks bro, really appreciate it! :)
Hey, thanks for this video! I’m currently a second year med student and have been killing for a simple explanation on this all - just a few questions, 1) do you know how competitive a sports medicine physician is (not surgical) and how job opportunities for that look like in the city? 2) Also, do you know about the lifestyle for it? I’ve been feeling demotivated since hearing about how gruelling training will be in the future (which I had no idea about when entering med school) - I’m looking for a solid lifestyle and don’t want to spend all my twenties working night shifts / studying, but all I’ve been hearing so far from everyone is that I’ve chosen the wrong profession for lifestyle haha - 3) do you have any insight about maintaining a lifestyle during the training years post-med school? Thanks!
Hey, thanks for leaving a comment and sorry about the delay in responding.
1) I need to preface this answer by saying I don't really know a lot about the Sports Med pathway. From what I do think I know, becoming a sports medicine physician is quite difficult as there isn't many jobs around and often sports med physicians have to do other things (e.g. locum in ED) to make a full-time living. Check out SEMSA for more info (facebook.com/SEMSA.au/)
2) Again, not too sure about the lifestyle of a sports medicine physician but I would assume it would have less nights since not much sport happens overnight. Again, would recommend the above FB group which is the med students association related to sports medicine.
3) It is hard, especially at the start, because work is a different pace to being in med school and very draining and don't be surprised if you can't do a lot of the same things that you could previously just because you're so tired by the end of the day. I think give yourself some slack, acknowledge that some rotations are busier than others and some days you just can't exercise / do other self-care things because there's not enough hours in the day to do them + work + sleep (esp if you have to do 14+ hour days which happens sometimes). Trying to get a good schedule/routine going is probably your best friend as there's just less hours in the day once you start work and thus you have to be more "productive" if you want to get the same amount of things done. Also, you can consider job-sharing (i.e. working part-time) - yes this delays progression, but if it allows you to be happier throughout the journey, then that's defs worth it. In saying that, it's incredibly hard to do because you feel the constant pressure of wanting to keep up with everyone else around you who's working full-time. That's kind've all I can say off the top of my head, maybe I'll make an entire video on this last point, so thanks for leaving a comment!
Hi Sir, can u please tell me how many hours a cardiologist or any specialist need to work per week and how much earning by working that amount in Sydney? ❤
Thanks for the info KJ. what about mature aged people like myself who want to get into medicine at a later stage in life?
@@BabyKitty000 same process - can either do GAMSAT to enter via graduate pathway (4 years) if you’ve done another degree or UCAT to enter undergraduate pathway (5-6 years), then common pathway once you’re working as a doctor.
Great video! Subbed
Hi Kajanan , im a IMG from malaysia with mrcp UK with 3 years experience as specialist in malaysia, i would like to relocate to australia and work there, wat are the procedures , tq 🙏
Hi Komala, thanks for your comment 😊 I would really love to help you, but the truth is, I don't know much about the procedures for relocating as an IMG. Here's a link (advancemed.com.au/doctor-job-australia/) to AdvanceMed (The Career Doctor) who has published a few videos and articles on how IMGs can work in Australia. His content may be better able to answer your questions and you can get in touch with him to specifically ask him questions. I hope this helps!
@@kjmd Thank you 😀
Is it worth it to do ms in ob/gyn in australia (adelaide or any other city) after completing 5yr med school in india?
It depends on what you mean by worth it?
Also, do you want to live in Australia? Do you want to return back to India after training in Australia? It's hard to say without knowing a little bit more about your situation.
@@kjmd worth it means.... Is there best universities for obgyn there?? Coz i didn't get the exact info in google & i wanna get a job there after completing my MS/MD.
Ya i wanna settle there for long & after if i feel like 'the right time to go back' i wanna also come back to india.
How did you create the animation for pam?
Hey mate, I used the following plugin pack from Pixel Film Studios: store.pixelfilmstudios.com/product/fcpx-characters-and-props/
They're useful, but Pixel Film Studios' plugins are very buggy and almost more effort than they're worth. I had to export the video like 8 times because of the issues with this particular plugin. I wouldn't recommend them (though unfortunately I don't have an alternative suggestion for a similar product).
Bro can you tell me how to become a doctor as a international student who passed +2( secondary school) from india
Sorry, I'm not too familiar with the situation for international students, but check out @CareerDoctor on UA-cam who has made a video about this
Im in year 9 and hoping to become a gp. Any chance you could tell me, because i was fairly busy while watching this, what subjects would be required in highschool and approximately how long it would take. Great explanation and video btw👍
Depends on the university, some have no pre-requisite subjects, some do. Chemistry and English seem to be the most common ones. In terms of what is somewhat related, obviously biology and chemistry are to some extent but really you just need to do the subjects you like and that you are most likely to do well in.
I’m not sure what you mean with the second part of your question regarding how long it would take. Med school takes 5-6 years for undergraduate programs or 4 years for postgraduate programs (in addition to whatever undergraduate degree you’ve done).
@@kjmd thank you so much
Hey mate, the structure of the video is amazing, thank you so much! I wanted to ask wether you get paid during your PGY1 aka intern, and beyond, and if so is it reasonable to support yourself and save some money for the future?
No worries, glad it was of assistance! Yes, you do get paid from internship and beyond. As someone without any other dependents or any debts outside of HECS, it's more than enough to survive in Australia and have some left over to save/invest/enjoy certain luxuries in life like travel. You certainly get paid better than in some other countries like the UK. This is a link to the NSW Health Professional EBA which is publicly available data (www.health.nsw.gov.au/careers/conditions/Awards/he-profmed-salaries.pdf). It includes what the income of an intern and subsequent level doctor is and also the incomes of other health professionals. Different states pay their doctors differently and NSW is one of the lowest paying states.
I'm from india and want your more help to know how to become a doctor can you please explain me clearly only in the comment section.
Just write the programmes and the entrance test required I'd completed my high school and now planning for 6 year programme in Australia please explain me full process.
I'll be greatly thankful to you
Hi, I’m not really sure how to answer this. What do you mean by programmes? Do you mean University subjects or something else? What is this 6 year programme that you are planning to do in Australia? Have you already got a place at a University in Australia or do you still need to find one?
Subbed !!
I just had a question . What is the board exmas of Australia called ? Is it different to the AMC exams that we as an img have to give ?
I have a bachelor degree in management/accounting. Can I still get into a medicine school and become a doctor ?
Of course you can! Many people who I went to medical school with had already completed some undergraduate program and there are many postgraduate programs out there!
@@kjmd what's the way for me to get into ? When it comes to Masters in Social Work or Psychology RMIT University said I can't coz I don't have a bachelors in the same field,
So could you please let me know the process to get into medical school here in Melbourne ?