@@johndicbutt3704 And to think the Christian nuts were right all this time telling everyone this would happen if gays were given rights, one small step at a time.
A lesson the US learned all too well. From the 60s until today conservatives/reactionaries were ignored when they pronounced warnings about the direction their society was taking. And yet practically all of their predictions came to pass in one way or another. Slowly, imperceptibly, one step at a time. If you showed the present society to people from the 1960's they'd flip their shit. And the funny thing is the "doomsday loonies" predicted it. If theres one thing Ive learned from the culture war its that reactionaries tend to be right about what is coming. They may be a little uneducated, a little brash, a little stupid and ineloquent....but they have excellent instincts regarding fear. If they're scared of something coming then you can bet your ass its coming. Its downright clairvoyant at times.
Each season focused on a certain nation and relevant scenario: In Season 2, it was China and the South China Sea In Season 3, it was Russia and the LGBT discrimination
"If people don't like the job you're doing, they vote you out of Office. If they don't like the job I'm doing, they topple statues, blood is spilled, chaos takes over." The way this illustrates the cultural differences between both countries is amazing.
+DoomMantia The problem is, Petrov deliberately keeps up this state of mind. He could democratise step by step (like Putin did in his early years) but instead he just clings to his power.
It sure as hell ain't easy with Russia's oligarchs and the systemic corruption unnecessarily draining resources which would have been better spent on improving the conditions of the average citizens who are completly apathetic to any sort of politics, and with a political class which holds deep contempt for them. A step by step democratization would require a massive financial incentive for it to work. It's the way Putin keeps power by bringing stability(sort of) , keeping the oligarchs in check(or so he says), and increasing the living standards of normal Russians. Also the whole tradition thing in Russia is complete bulshit. It is merely an instrument of the status-quo and the orthodox church and is another propaganda line used by the elite, which is the only reason it still exists, that is by being constantly enforced. Once gone it would take some time(because the majority of Russians are deeply right wing, with the fringes being outright fascists) but the Russians would probably abandon all of the "Russian traditions" they so dearly hold to if they had a genuine alternative better than what the elite offered them. The problem is they don't , are paranoid about America creeping at their door and have to get behind a presidential czar ,and take delight in being a power that is respected and feared around the world. It's been that way since the Russian empire. What Petrov in the show doesn't say is that he and the Russian elite know that they need to keep their facade basically to remain in power.All of these so called traditions are the pillars of Russian autocracy which let's them run the country mostly free with a docile population. Hence giving gays and lesbians recognition would be the starting point of unraveling Russia's age old social and political order. That profit from it so they don't want it gone. They would have to also profit from a new order similar to the american one if they actually wanted to change things.
Let's look back to history. Gobachev was applaused by the West, the whole Western civilization pictured him as a changing factor. But the Soviet society didn't have the same idea. Now, he is hated by many Russians as a person who directly caused the collapse and reducing position of Russia. Petrov got the point. It's important to win your people, not satisfy interest of other foreigners
+Cruzer It was Gorbachev's attitudes to the West and idea for a reform that put the final nail in the coffin. Soviet Socialism was too difficult to keep alive, and the collapse was inevitable, but Gorbachev did not put up a fight for his people. He understands that now.
+Cruzer I believed that 70 years of communism may cause a lot of fundamental problems for Soviet society, but it's Gobachev's reform ways that directly create the collapse of USSR. China, to some extents, had the same problem of decades of economic failure like USSR, but Deng Xiaoping succeeded in changing China from a stagnant communism economy to a capitalist economy (to be exact, it's a form of state capitalism now) without causing a collapse of a country. That was the truth.
+H The Soviet Economy had been stagnant for decades before Gorbachev & was slowly collapsing. It's disintegration was inevitable. The mistake Gorbachev made in terms of Russian power & prestige is that he allowed calls for personal freedom, which unleashed chaos, over liberating the economy. China did the opposite. It kept the total authoritarian system of the government but it allowed the economy to be much freer. The Soviets under Gobachev allowed fair criticism of a dying system which was the fatal blow. Had Russia done what China did, then the people couldn't really have revolution in the face of such economic dynamism & explosive growth. How can revolutionaries ask any Chinese person to rebel against the system when the standard of living was/is vastly improving each year? Hundreds of million lifted out of poverty but the system is wrong? You can't rebel against that. But you CAN rebel at the stagnant Soviet Economy in decline for decades. Gorbachev meant well because he knew only bold & dynamic action could rescue the doomed Soviet system but he picked the wrong option because freedom to attack/criticise only gave the people the voice to point out how wrong the system was, which it was. If the Chinese gave people to freedom to attack & criticise the system pre Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms, then the entire country of China would collapse into chaos as it did to Russia in the 1990s.
Petrov always seemed a lot more inteligent than all the other characters, and this dialogue shows it all. In my opinion, It’s one of the best scenes in the whole show
He is my favourite character. His lines are just fantastic. I'm so glad that there's an American series that depicts Russian politics in such realism. The only unrealistic thing about him is his perfect English.
It's suprising to meet a man who understands power even better than Frank Underwood himself, yet with less than a quarter of the screentime and with little to no background on his ascension to power we know Petrov is for sure a more powerhungry and viscious presence.
i think they're on the same playing field just two different backgrounds like petrov pointed out. Frank's trying to tackle this from a western american lens but that doesnt fit in russia and that's what worries Petrov
I love how coldly Petrov says the line, “No, you’re right, I don’t believe in it.” How much of politics today is just the powerful stirring up anger in the masses over causes they couldn’t care less about?
Isn't that the essense of politics? Being a representative of the people who voted for you with either their votes or their confidence, and pushing through their ideas despite your own opinions
I'd say most of it. What matters is power, end of the day, and if politicians are able to inflame the hearts and minds of voters by campaigning for a popular pretext, they win the game.
Claire annoyed me so much at the end. All seemed agreed, Petrov had shown humanity, peace in the Middle East seemed closer, and then she buts in. Rarely have I got so annoyed at a fictional programme!
Petrov: you should come to Russia we surf the water is cold but the women are very warm Underwood: oh I’m not sure what Claire would think about that Petrov:it’s ok you bring her along the place is crawling with artists I’m sure she’ll find something she likes 😂😂😂 oh the burn 🔥 💀
Scandinavians in general are a good pick when you need someone to play Slavs because they have quite a lot of Slavic genes in them while also being much more well known in Hollywood than actual Slavic actors.
@@lyricalmike7162 If people could separate what a person says, from the person that said it, it'd be a much better place. There would be way less overgrown babies everywhere.
@@gandalf8216 I agree to a degree, but it is important to know what the statement actually means. This would be like thinking that when Aristotle says “logos” that he’s talking about Jesus Christ like Saint John was, which obviously he wasn’t.
"Revolution sneaks up on you, one small step at a time" Petrov was right, and Frank wasn't too proud or too foolish to see those steps, as Freddie, Jackie, Remy, Heather, Catherine, Garrett, Claire, and eventually Doug slowly turned on him and drove him from power
Spoiler That’s exactly why Petrov had her removed as ambassador a non-negotiable during the talks about Jordan Valley. She isn’t fit for ambassador at all.
@@Meson10 Hmmm. You're theory seems to be predicated upon an intrinsic desire on the female's part to procreate (or at least to find a sexual partner), and dispels the intrinsic nature of sexuality in the statement.
I wonder if, after this conversation, Francis googled the list of Russian cabinet ministers, and tried to use his gaydar to figure out which two of them were gay... 😂
THIS IS MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE SCENE from this series. I just love how it shows the opposing viewpoints. And it explains the political significance of these types of human rights abuses.
This is very true for many people of power, the voices of the populous are what matters, not their own beliefs. Makes you really think about the true beliefs of celebrities and government officials, do they say what they believe or what they want the people to hear?
Petrov was a good character and only wanted what was best for his people. Other than him kissing Claire when he was drunk he was more civilized than Frank.
@@bharatsadhnani4370 Frank's wife was suspecting that the Russian has taped their phone since they came to Russia, Frank dismissed it "there's no way they go that far of taping the phone of a sitting US President". It turns out to be true with Petrov saying "your wife is right at the phone" (talking about other context).
I like this scene a lot because it highlights an interesting feature of democracy: the leaders are too scared of there people to do the right thing. And the people are, ironically, so caught up in the traditions carried out by there leaders that they stay trapped in it.
“To do the right thing” give me a break dude if the people of a particular country don’t want your way of life why should it be shoved down their throats. P.S. just in case if someone says “muslims” or “sharia law” modern islamists are a branch of leftist socialist movements created from the days of the soviets to try to control the middle east and now sponsored by the west to try to control the middle east as a controlled opposition
A year late but fuck it, I'd binge watch own the DVD, Blue Ray and even go out of my way to have it on VHS somehow, just because a live action show with Lars as Thrawn would be the best thing ever.
If russia had a leader this competent, they would never have messed up in Ukraine. Can oyu imagine looking at the US's debacles (20 years in Afghan and 20 years in iraq) and going yeah well I'm going to suffer 5 times as many casualties as those 40 years together in 18 months!
Darth Vader: Thrawn, you trigger-happy blue lunatic! Give me that blaster and hold it, right there! Thrawn: [nervously] Watch it! That thing's loaded! [Vader angrily shoots the last bullet in Thrawn's chest] Darth Vader: Now it ain't loaded!
Feels odd to watch it today that Kevin Spacey was acquitted of all the charges on him - what a great show HoC might have been if they kept him instead of purging for what proved to be a witch hunt :(
I love it. An anti gay law doesnt cost money, specially not those oligarchs who bleed russia out. Its a hollow gift for people who should be concerned with bigger issues.
This is exactly how Donald Trump feels about religious groups and RNC in general. He technically doesn't believe whatever they believe in, I mean for god sack the man was tv personality for along time, but for him to keep the power and the base he has now he has to keep them convinced that he is untouchable powerful men.
Ok... I didn't watch the show so I may not understand the context of this scene completely but... Creators of this show showed us as way more radical people than we actually are. No one would actually care about government freeing a protester (even if he's gay) except for the liberal opposition. Especially if it's done quietly, without attracting anyone's attention.
@@choicemeatrandy6572 no, that's not what I meant, I wanted to say that I didn't know that this player was arrested and I found out about this only thanks to you.
Religion and Tradition had nothing to do with the 2016 American election. In the last two elections, it was the VOTERS who legalized gay marriage and medical marijuana in both red and blue states. Personal freedom is gaining ground in the West. Religiosity not so much (unless you mean Islam). 2016 and the election of Donald Trump were about conflicting culture war narratives between left identitarianism and right identitarianism, an inevitable byproduct of multicultural societies.
"Revolution sneaks up on you one small step at a time. I don't take chances, even with the smallest of steps." great character
Great coward.
@@FreakyTeeth No. Just reality
@@FreakyTeeth I mean leftists in the us can't define what a woman is atm so.....
@@johndicbutt3704 And to think the Christian nuts were right all this time telling everyone this would happen if gays were given rights, one small step at a time.
A lesson the US learned all too well. From the 60s until today conservatives/reactionaries were ignored when they pronounced warnings about the direction their society was taking. And yet practically all of their predictions came to pass in one way or another. Slowly, imperceptibly, one step at a time. If you showed the present society to people from the 1960's they'd flip their shit. And the funny thing is the "doomsday loonies" predicted it.
If theres one thing Ive learned from the culture war its that reactionaries tend to be right about what is coming. They may be a little uneducated, a little brash, a little stupid and ineloquent....but they have excellent instincts regarding fear. If they're scared of something coming then you can bet your ass its coming. Its downright clairvoyant at times.
I love that they were like, "yeah let's put Putin in the show."
Each season focused on a certain nation and relevant scenario:
In Season 2, it was China and the South China Sea
In Season 3, it was Russia and the LGBT discrimination
+5Oblivion session 4 is Israel
Saison 4-5 is Syria
@@FrenchTouchnationaliste Season 6 will be... Syria and Venezuela? XD
D V actually.... no :(
"There won't be a revolution because you freed one man" - I'm sure the Okhrana said the same about Lenin back in 1900.
Joey Lock absolutely. And Petrov (Putin actually) understands that. That’s why he seems so repressive. But it’s kinda not good tho(
@boganus699 how can the russian revolution be obscure, when a russian is talkning about a revolution?
Same with Hitler
Same with Minamoto yoritomo . Taira clan let him live instead of kill him, then he revolt back and destroy entire clan and became first shogun
"If people don't like the job you're doing, they vote you out of Office. If they don't like the job I'm doing, they topple statues, blood is spilled, chaos takes over."
The way this illustrates the cultural differences between both countries is amazing.
+DoomMantia The problem is, Petrov deliberately keeps up this state of mind. He could democratise step by step (like Putin did in his early years) but instead he just clings to his power.
Agreed, they did a fantastic job outlining how dangerous Russian politics is.
+DoomMantia very funny culture lol
+boganus699 Who said it would be easy?
It sure as hell ain't easy with Russia's oligarchs and the systemic corruption unnecessarily draining resources which would have been better spent on improving the conditions of the average citizens who are completly apathetic to any sort of politics, and with a political class which holds deep contempt for them. A step by step democratization would require a massive financial incentive for it to work. It's the way Putin keeps power by bringing stability(sort of) , keeping the oligarchs in check(or so he says), and increasing the living standards of normal Russians.
Also the whole tradition thing in Russia is complete bulshit. It is merely an instrument of the status-quo and the orthodox church and is another propaganda line used by the elite, which is the only reason it still exists, that is by being constantly enforced. Once gone it would take some time(because the majority of Russians are deeply right wing, with the fringes being outright fascists) but the Russians would probably abandon all of the "Russian traditions" they so dearly hold to if they had a genuine alternative better than what the elite offered them. The problem is they don't , are paranoid about America creeping at their door and have to get behind a presidential czar ,and take delight in being a power that is respected and feared around the world. It's been that way since the Russian empire.
What Petrov in the show doesn't say is that he and the Russian elite know that they need to keep their facade basically to remain in power.All of these so called traditions are the pillars of Russian autocracy which let's them run the country mostly free with a docile population.
Hence giving gays and lesbians recognition would be the starting point of unraveling Russia's age old social and political order. That profit from it so they don't want it gone. They would have to also profit from a new order similar to the american one if they actually wanted to change things.
Let's look back to history. Gobachev was applaused by the West, the whole Western civilization pictured him as a changing factor. But the Soviet society didn't have the same idea. Now, he is hated by many Russians as a person who directly caused the collapse and reducing position of Russia. Petrov got the point. It's important to win your people, not satisfy interest of other foreigners
It wasn't Gorbachev, but 70 years of communism that caused the USSR to collapse.
+Cruzer It was Gorbachev's attitudes to the West and idea for a reform that put the final nail in the coffin. Soviet Socialism was too difficult to keep alive, and the collapse was inevitable, but Gorbachev did not put up a fight for his people. He understands that now.
+Cruzer
I believed that 70 years of communism may cause a lot of fundamental problems for Soviet society, but it's Gobachev's reform ways that directly create the collapse of USSR. China, to some extents, had the same problem of decades of economic failure like USSR, but Deng Xiaoping succeeded in changing China from a stagnant communism economy to a capitalist economy (to be exact, it's a form of state capitalism now) without causing a collapse of a country. That was the truth.
+superman VN Gorbachev a traitor
+H The Soviet Economy had been stagnant for decades before Gorbachev & was slowly collapsing. It's disintegration was inevitable. The mistake Gorbachev made in terms of Russian power & prestige is that he allowed calls for personal freedom, which unleashed chaos, over liberating the economy. China did the opposite. It kept the total authoritarian system of the government but it allowed the economy to be much freer. The Soviets under Gobachev allowed fair criticism of a dying system which was the fatal blow. Had Russia done what China did, then the people couldn't really have revolution in the face of such economic dynamism & explosive growth. How can revolutionaries ask any Chinese person to rebel against the system when the standard of living was/is vastly improving each year? Hundreds of million lifted out of poverty but the system is wrong? You can't rebel against that. But you CAN rebel at the stagnant Soviet Economy in decline for decades. Gorbachev meant well because he knew only bold & dynamic action could rescue the doomed Soviet system but he picked the wrong option because freedom to attack/criticise only gave the people the voice to point out how wrong the system was, which it was. If the Chinese gave people to freedom to attack & criticise the system pre Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms, then the entire country of China would collapse into chaos as it did to Russia in the 1990s.
Can we please have a House of Cards -Russian Edition with the history of Petrov?
That would be nice spin off
great idea, it could be better than original
half the troublemaking members of the house would have mysteriously commited suicide in a bucket of water in the first two episodes.
You already have it. it's called "Russia hacked the election", it's on the news. Great work of fiction.
That would be a really interesting spin-off.
Petrov always seemed a lot more inteligent than all the other characters, and this dialogue shows it all. In my opinion, It’s one of the best scenes in the whole show
he is based off putin... who is probably the shrewdest politician alive now. our leaders are walking talking retards compared to putin or XI jing ping
Thrawn: BLAST THIS TABLET! BLAST THIS KRIFFING TABLET!
same with putin
I watched this scene like a million times but maybe it's because it's 1 of the few scenes I actually understand hehe
@@RR-et6zp serious?
"I don't take chances...even with the smallest of steps." Now that's a fucking quote right there.
While I found season 3 the weakest of HoC, Lars Mikkelsen was the best part of this season; him and his brother Mads are fantastic actors.
I quite enjoy Lars on this show, and Mads is one of my top five favorite actors.
Austin Boylan get out of here!!! He is LeChiffre ‘s brother???
Yes he is :D They make me proud to be danish :D
Season 5 is worse than 3
I hope we see more of Petrov in the sixth and final season.
He is my favourite character. His lines are just fantastic. I'm so glad that there's an American series that depicts Russian politics in such realism. The only unrealistic thing about him is his perfect English.
Where do you see it in Russia?)
Considering the latest events in Russia. The reality is that Russian people really don't care what happens with their leader lol
@@ionaskualexander1255 they just love their genocidal leaders
@@blessedkarl5764Even those leaders who aren’t even Russian but act like they are.
@@blessedkarl5764can say that about leaders in the west as well though
It's suprising to meet a man who understands power even better than Frank Underwood himself, yet with less than a quarter of the screentime and with little to no background on his ascension to power we know Petrov is for sure a more powerhungry and viscious presence.
Yeah say what you will about season 3, Petrov was the best part, especially in how he was able to outwit the Underwood’s. Sadly he gets diminished.
i think they're on the same playing field just two different backgrounds like petrov pointed out. Frank's trying to tackle this from a western american lens but that doesnt fit in russia and that's what worries Petrov
Whoever casted this character gets an A+. So Putinesque. Intelligent, elegant, soft-spoken but so strong, a little sexy. 10 out of 10.
lars was captivating
This comment aged well
@@SavagioTs It aged like fine wine . . . . .😬😬😬
I love how coldly Petrov says the line, “No, you’re right, I don’t believe in it.” How much of politics today is just the powerful stirring up anger in the masses over causes they couldn’t care less about?
Isn't that the essense of politics? Being a representative of the people who voted for you with either their votes or their confidence, and pushing through their ideas despite your own opinions
I'd say most of it. What matters is power, end of the day, and if politicians are able to inflame the hearts and minds of voters by campaigning for a popular pretext, they win the game.
Lars Mikkelsen is a great actor. I'd pay for a spin off show staring him as Petrov.
He was scary good in Sherlock, also.
How much?
I think of the witcher.
He’s very good as Thrawn in Star Wars; when I see him here, I think of him in blue skin with red eyes
The last lines were soooo GRAND ADMIRAL THRAWN. The delivery, wow.
Grand Admiral Thrawn has been doing it for years
Can't wait to see him as live action Grand Admiral Thrawn!
Twill be fantastic
I would watch the shit out of that.
Confirmed.
@@TheCrazeace been waiting years for this confirmation
you got your wish
Love all the hand gestures Petrov adds to the whole thing.
Claire annoyed me so much at the end. All seemed agreed, Petrov had shown humanity, peace in the Middle East seemed closer, and then she buts in. Rarely have I got so annoyed at a fictional programme!
I hate her truly. She was so annoying
Petrov: you should come to Russia we surf the water is cold but the women are very warm
Underwood: oh I’m not sure what Claire would think about that
Petrov:it’s ok you bring her along the place is crawling with artists I’m sure she’ll find something she likes
😂😂😂 oh the burn 🔥 💀
Lars Mikkelsen is awesome in sherlock too and the cherry on top is his Mads Mikkelsen brother
He is Mads brother, he is danish? I thought he is russian, he is good like his brother.
really ????? man this is the info of the day for me.
Scandinavians in general are a good pick when you need someone to play Slavs because they have quite a lot of Slavic genes in them while also being much more well known in Hollywood than actual Slavic actors.
He was completely wasted in Sherlock, due to complete self indulgence from the writers. He was the only good thing to come out of Season 3.
Grand Admiral Thrawn is here
Frank: Everyone thinks you’re a tyrant.
Viktor: Pshtt, I don’t care!
“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.”
― Seneca
Seneca was just trying to justify his own radical individualism, this isn’t some profound statement, it’s just a rationalization of pride.
@@lyricalmike7162What the hell are you talking about?
@@Mahmoud-hb1tl it was pretty straightforward
@@lyricalmike7162 If people could separate what a person says, from the person that said it, it'd be a much better place. There would be way less overgrown babies everywhere.
@@gandalf8216 I agree to a degree, but it is important to know what the statement actually means. This would be like thinking that when Aristotle says “logos” that he’s talking about Jesus Christ like Saint John was, which obviously he wasn’t.
"Revolution sneaks up on you, one small step at a time" Petrov was right, and Frank wasn't too proud or too foolish to see those steps, as Freddie, Jackie, Remy, Heather, Catherine, Garrett, Claire, and eventually Doug slowly turned on him and drove him from power
Wasn't Doug against Claire? He would always come back to Frank regardless.
@@BlackDiamond2718 Doug killed him
@@whyiaskyou thought that was claire
Doug killed him to preserve his Legacy I think.
Petrov is a real leader. This dialogue proves it. If it's based on Putin, it's even more true.
I've heard that before (that Petrov is based on Putin) but Kevin Spacey says they don't base their characters on real-life politicians.
+CaptainRidley Don't be stupid, western media doesn't understand the East and it's people.
+Austin Boylan Oh come on Vladimir Putin-Victor Petrov.They even look alike.
+Lelouch vi Britannia Indeed. They say it wasn't based on real-life politicians to avoid discomfort and that is all.
Subtle references. Same initials.
I like this scene but I hate that Claire absolutely ruins it at the press conference. She shouldn't even of been in Russia at the time.
Spoiler
That’s exactly why Petrov had her removed as ambassador a non-negotiable during the talks about Jordan Valley. She isn’t fit for ambassador at all.
@@Meson10 Hmmm. You're theory seems to be predicated upon an intrinsic desire on the female's part to procreate (or at least to find a sexual partner), and dispels the intrinsic nature of sexuality in the statement.
I feel the same thing about Claire. She's annoying as hell.
The Revolution sneaks up on you!
*chills
*chills in dictatorship
For those of you who don't know, Petrov is Lars Mikkelsen, Mads Mikkelsen's brother.
I wonder if, after this conversation, Francis googled the list of Russian cabinet ministers, and tried to use his gaydar to figure out which two of them were gay... 😂
all i hear is Thrawn
Colby Compeau yes!!!
We eastern people carry our religion and tradition very seriously. Even if the time change we make our tradition flexible through changing era.
THIS IS MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE SCENE from this series. I just love how it shows the opposing viewpoints. And it explains the political significance of these types of human rights abuses.
Admiral Thrawn :D
This is very true for many people of power, the voices of the populous are what matters, not their own beliefs. Makes you really think about the true beliefs of celebrities and government officials, do they say what they believe or what they want the people to hear?
Of course second one is reality
Yup it’s Thrawn from Star Wars Rebels
Playing intimidating and classy leaders is on his blood
Holy shit
Both of them play The Game of Thrones, and they're excellent players, but in two different contexts, different power dynamics and different rules.
POV: Prot confronts Grand Admiral Thrawn
Petrov was a good character and only wanted what was best for his people. Other than him kissing Claire when he was drunk he was more civilized than Frank.
I love this series . Looks like scene writers understand us more then any person from real us government . ))
"I don't take chances. Even with the smallest of steps."
Lars can totally do a live action Star Wars movie of Thrawn! Disney, get this man under contract!!
This post aged very well.
i laugh at the part when Petrov said "your wife is right at the phone", those wo had watch this episode and remember will surely find it funny"
Please explain?
@@bharatsadhnani4370 Frank's wife was suspecting that the Russian has taped their phone since they came to Russia, Frank dismissed it "there's no way they go that far of taping the phone of a sitting US President". It turns out to be true with Petrov saying "your wife is right at the phone" (talking about other context).
I often find that when people ask what Putin's real stand on gay rights is, this would probably be the best interpretation of it.
I wouldn't be so sure of that.
@@Donnerbalken28 It's very hard to know when Putin is playing the game and putting on a show or if he really believes what he is saying.
I like this scene a lot because it highlights an interesting feature of democracy: the leaders are too scared of there people to do the right thing. And the people are, ironically, so caught up in the traditions carried out by there leaders that they stay trapped in it.
except Petrov's Russia wasn't a democracy. It was a full-blown authoritatian state as depicted in the show.
@@robotname438 So basically the same as real life Russia?
@@SanctusPaulus1962not really
@@hkleider What do you mean? Do you genuinely believe that Russia is a democracy? Because not even Russians themselves actually believe in that lie.
“To do the right thing” give me a break dude if the people of a particular country don’t want your way of life why should it be shoved down their throats.
P.S. just in case if someone says “muslims” or “sharia law” modern islamists are a branch of leftist socialist movements created from the days of the soviets to try to control the middle east and now sponsored by the west to try to control the middle east as a controlled opposition
When I found out this was the same guy who voiced Thrawn (and Mads’ brother) I lost my fucking mind, just not in this art of war 😜
He played President Petrov wonderfully.
OML OML OML😂😂😂 WHEN I HEARD MY MAN LARS SPEAKING JUST LIKE I HEARD HIM ON HIS CHARACTER OF THRAWN I SWEAR JESUS CHRIST I SCREAMED. I LOVE THIS GUY!❤️
Thanks for uploading this Tyler Maartens
Russia is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Winston Churchill
Grand admiral Thrawn
1:49
Love that last line.
" Tell Putin I will have more flexibility after the election"-- Barack Obama
i didn't knew the actor who plays petrov but honnestly he's amazing in the show ! a spin off would be nice
My boy grand admiral thrawn!
This scene is intense !
Underwood and Thrawn
💯💯💯💯 Straight like a steel
All I can hear is Frank Underwood throwing down with Grand Admiral Thrawn.
TheBlackPhoenix100 but thrawn will outsmart him.
House of Thrawn
DrPickleful finally someone who knows!
A year late but fuck it, I'd binge watch own the DVD, Blue Ray and even go out of my way to have it on VHS somehow, just because a live action show with Lars as Thrawn would be the best thing ever.
Clearly!
House of Chiss
If russia had a leader this competent, they would never have messed up in Ukraine. Can oyu imagine looking at the US's debacles (20 years in Afghan and 20 years in iraq) and going yeah well I'm going to suffer 5 times as many casualties as those 40 years together in 18 months!
Darth Vader: Thrawn, you trigger-happy blue lunatic! Give me that blaster and hold it, right there!
Thrawn: [nervously] Watch it! That thing's loaded!
[Vader angrily shoots the last bullet in Thrawn's chest]
Darth Vader: Now it ain't loaded!
Grand Admiral Thrawn vs. Frank lol
No harm done. There's plenty of ice truck killers in the land of the free. lol
HoC is like a fantasy now. If only our leaders were this smart
I cant wait for Thrawn
He was the best part of that tragic Season 3
Feels odd to watch it today that Kevin Spacey was acquitted of all the charges on him - what a great show HoC might have been if they kept him instead of purging for what proved to be a witch hunt :(
I love how he says: IT'S IN THEIR BONES!
Tallputin
Relevant to 2020z
"Yes... of course it is."
I love it. An anti gay law doesnt cost money, specially not those oligarchs who bleed russia out. Its a hollow gift for people who should be concerned with bigger issues.
Grand Admiral Thrawn has come far.
Did they really think they were gonna top this with only Claire in the playing field??
this is good
When Underwood met his match
magnusson!
Viktor is the voice of thrawn
Grateful that this masterpiece is recommended on pride month tho
Grandadmiral Thranow
"i don't take chances" that didn't age well...
Petrov is played by Mads Mikkelsens brother
The show... How clever is was...
Lars is very interesting man!
Lars Mikkelsen is so hot! And his Russian accent is even better.
This is strangely ironic in 2020
He is Similar to Putten, I just remembered him when I watched the Russian invasion to Ukrane
Lars Mikkelsen (Petrov) is Mads Mikkelsens brother
Spacey is Epstein's brother lmao
Holy shit! I never knew.
Just for Lars.
This is exactly how Donald Trump feels about religious groups and RNC in general. He technically doesn't believe whatever they believe in, I mean for god sack the man was tv personality for along time, but for him to keep the power and the base he has now he has to keep them convinced that he is untouchable powerful men.
Petrov looks like tall Putin.
Ok... I didn't watch the show so I may not understand the context of this scene completely but... Creators of this show showed us as way more radical people than we actually are. No one would actually care about government freeing a protester (even if he's gay) except for the liberal opposition. Especially if it's done quietly, without attracting anyone's attention.
Wasn't there a huge fuss about a WNBA player arrested in Russia recently?
@@choicemeatrandy6572 honestly, I didn't notice, literally no one among people I know talked about this.
@@RedWanderer26 So that means it didn't happen? What sorta logic is this? 😅
@@choicemeatrandy6572 no, that's not what I meant, I wanted to say that I didn't know that this player was arrested and I found out about this only thanks to you.
the guy that played petrov was SO GOOD
Charles Augustus Magnussen
Hey that's Magnus from Sherlock
I can't help but wonder if this is how Putin views his anti gay laws behind closed doors.
It's not. He views the West as decadent and himself as the saviour of Russia against Western ideas.
He looks like old Elon musk
This explains Putin's popularity in Russia and Trump's win.
Vincanity101 It kinda does, both the United States and Russia has religious traditional fanatics, so yeah, very similar.
Religion and Tradition had nothing to do with the 2016 American election. In the last two elections, it was the VOTERS who legalized gay marriage and medical marijuana in both red and blue states. Personal freedom is gaining ground in the West. Religiosity not so much (unless you mean Islam).
2016 and the election of Donald Trump were about conflicting culture war narratives between left identitarianism and right identitarianism, an inevitable byproduct of multicultural societies.