They really need to buff Raiden along with other older characters man. As a Raiden main it pains me that other c0 characters like Arlecchino/Mualani/kinich does the same or even more damage than c2/c3 raiden. T_T I have c3r1 raiden and she easily does 600k+ burst in abyss. But man my arlecchino does the same damage and she is c0 -_-
Yeah i feel you. She needs a different weapon with crit and energy recharge for the effect. I tried to make my Raiden good for over 1 year but i gave up, too much investment for little gain. Ended up with 259% ER and 65.3% CR, 134.7 CD
@@andreweaton6363 yeah same man. I am f2p. I saved 300+ pulls for her c2 in 4.3 banner (I started genshin on 4.0 because of Raiden). On 4.3 I got all Bennet,Sara and Chevereuse all c6 because I lost 2 50-50s then. Then I c3 Raiden in this patch and that is only when I was able to hit 1mil with food buffs on level 60 scaramouche boss.
@@Talinthis I don't know what hoyo has planned for Archons but they need to atleast buff the Archons later when the story goes to snezhnaya arc. And I don't know why but I think venti and Raiden will be buffed kinda because of affiliation with Istaroth or something. Like Venti is called her child and we've also seen Istaroth manipulate time in Inazuma for Ei to go to the past and plant the Sakura tree. And I might be coping but Raiden's attacks doesn't only look electro but she has some space/time effects on her attacks where it's her E skill or burst or attacks in burst mode and Istaroth is the shade of time yk...So maybe something in future.....heh.....
@@chonkhampter I feel like part of it is just because we are late game though. I feel like if I pulled Raiden c0 at AR 25-40 she would feel crazy overpowered still
Got her c0 r1 q few days ago. Pulled not for the numbers but because she is a cool character and plays very easy. Can she clear all content? Yes. Is she still the strongest? No. So what? It does not matter if she clears the abyss 20 seconds longer than Arlechino or Neuvelette, she's still a top 5 star. People should remember how to enjoy gameplay rather than aiming for speedruns.
Nahhh this channel is underrated wow , i'm not even 3rd of the way in and i'm convinced and subbed , gonna watch your clorinde guide as well , just want ya to know i appreciate the effort and time you put into this vid and have a great day !!
Sorry took me a while to get back here. Had a lot of trouble the last weeks with my pc setup. Thank your for your kind words. I am gonna keep up the quality. Even look for ways to improve it. Thank you for watching.
first time watcher here, really impressed how you highlight the pros and cons of raiden in detail, very rare in other guide videos these days. subcribed!
Call me a simp 😂 I just got her on current banner and I keep pulling in hope of getting her constellatios. As of today, she's C2, which is extremely lucky for me because I won all three 50/50 on her banner. I also got Kinich on the side with 30 pulls. Looks like I've used up all of my luck for 2024 😅 Her signature weapon and another constellation will be on her next rerun.
Another point to get constel of raiden is the 4 stars , you have sarah and probably Chevreuse every rerun of raiden , so if the new 5* are unwanted you still can pull raiden and hope to get both 5* c6
8:53 - not true at hypercarry team about "er+electro > atk+electro", actually it's the opposite, by swapping the sands to er (the same crit damage substat value), Raiden's burst first blow damage dropped by almost 100k
Got my first Jade Wing from the first pull I ever made. Like most I was screwing around in the menues and accidentally, or rather unwittingly, pulled on the weapon banner. Then I got Xiangling on my free 10 poll and figured she was, ofc, the best character in the entire game. She kinda is... But not when you go full atk% physical on field Xiangling like I did. But it worked well enough untill I figured out the rest. 🤣
so quick question if you see it, came back to genshin after a couple years and am VERY behind. Especially character wise. The best i can do for double hydro is ayato and mona, Think that will work? only other hydro units i have is Candace and barbara
Yelan and Furina are used because they do large off field DPS and have high burst costs, allowing raiden to scale her ult stacks. If you do not have them, Rational (Raiden, Xiangling, Bennet, Xingqiu/Yelan) or Hyper(Raiden, Bennet, Sara, Kazuha/Sucrose/anemo MC)/(Raiden, Sara, Chevresue, Xiangling/Bennet) may be more accessible for you. Unfortunately, Sara and Chevreuse are pretty much only amazing for her when they are C6, with Lisa or Mona wielding Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers is actually a decent replacement for Sara before her C6 (but the rotations can be a bit clunky). Sorry it wasnt a particularly easy answer.
Great video! btw, Best Arlecchino team is with Furina and not Yelan since she can still stack Furina's DMG bonus because she can still take DMG even if cannot heal, and Furina gives her AOE vapes instead of 1 enemy vapes while also granting a higher elemental DMG buff and arguably higher sub DPS.
@sherifffruitfly you are talking about Electrocharged I guess? That one is going to be stronger. Gonna be interesting to see how much it improves DH clear times.
Ye bro my raiden teams getting replaced by neuvilette team my plan team is neuv with kachina sucrose and dehya I could use Jean but still thinking about it
@Willuam1726 I mean once you got a couple great teams there is no harm in spicing up your occasional abyss clears with other teams. I enjoy tinkering and experimenting. So why not.
Not getting any better. Guess what. The pyro Archon wants a seat too. And I am not talking about Benett. The new best in town team for Raiden is gonna be Mavuika, Xilonen, Furina
Thundah does all the theory crafting for my channel. He does the math and the spreadsheets. He also has his own youtube. Making mainly Wuthering Waves. Check him out. He makes great content.
This game want me to use EM build on her, it give me sign by giving me EM stats a lot, substats went into EM a lot, no crit rate/dmg straight up went into EM. Funny how they were different type and I accidentally build a broken EM Raiden build instead of Big pp dmg 89 EM HP 76EM ATK 56 EM EM 27 EM EM 46 EM EM
For the record double hydro is spreadsheet bait and isn't really her strongest team (Although still one of her better teams and a comfortable one) TL;DR: Backloaded damage, scales worse with artifact investment, Little to none AOE and mostly ST First of all it's a very single target teamcomp with little to none frontloaded damage A lot of bosses are beaten way easier if you have more frontloaded damage such as this abyss: PMA (Goes into weakened state quicker if health bar drops below a point within a timeframe) & Maguu Kenki (Teleports around meaning it'd be easier to do the damage quickly in the timeframe he stays still rather than more damage overtime). Secondly, it scales worse with investment since the damage is very spread out with the teammates, say for example you get an artifact upgrade for one of your teammates, the damage increase will be lower the lower the damage contribution the character makes to the team (same with getting the signature of that character). Teams where Raiden does most of the damage does not have such a problem especially since Raiden scales quite well with artifact investment. Though this mostly only applies to c2+ (Since that's when hypercarry becomes viable) although even Rational or Overload would probably scale better. The final reason is that it's incredibly hard to swirl both Electro and Hydro in that team, while Xilonen will completely negate that issue she'll probably make the team even more backloaded than it currently is because of how much slower she generates Fanfare stacks. Although she might make up for that with her buffs I am ready to be proven wrong on this point.
@@Adirer1 Teams where she does the most damage. For pure DPS it's Chevreuse, Bennett & Sara (c6) but you can swap Chevreuse to Kazuha if you need the grouping since he only buffs a bit less.
Funny though, if you get to a point where your teams clears the abyss 36 on a regular basis, it do not matter if your team does 80%, 100% or 120% of any other teams damage. I got her to C2 R1 from CO within 140 pulls, lucky though. Because I did invest in her anyways. But for my other 5 Accounts I ditched her. I'll go for new dps for my alt Accounts.
this video is making me cry so hard like what are u saying, i really dont understand from someone who is playing raiden with c6 r2 her best team is overload with chervruse than hypercarry after that whatever u want, my best damage with overload in abyss is 739k and with hypercarry is 628k
and no im not a whale just lucky so hard got at her first banner 3 back to back than now i got c6 again back to back to back idk i was meant to main her
Your take is typical for somebody who looks only on screenshot numbers. Double Hydro wipes the floor with C0 Raiden Hyper. That shouldn't be even worth a discussion. Now let's talk C3R5. This is my investment. And I got to play that since she came out the first time. her initial slash can do 700k true. Which is about 35% of her total damage output during her burst. So overall we talk about 2.1m damage by her alone. The rest of her team Sara, Benett, Chevreuse will contribute 300k in damage. Which gets you to 2.4m. You don't see the problem? She barely beats Neuvillette and Arleccino at C0 with that. And she can't even touch them C2R1 investment. And I have a fricking R5 bro. That's why I say go Double Hydro. Put Xilonen in the team when she is out and you get almost 2m damage with only C0 units. Invest into Furina and Yelan and you get insanely powerful units that are also very flexible and can be used in soo many teams! This is about what makes the most sense for a player from an investment stand point and nothing else. And I thought I had that communicated clear enough. Nobody is saying Raiden C2 can't destroy content. You still can destroy everything. But it doesn't give you the most milage for the cash you throw at her. And this is just a fact. I won't lie to the players just because I love that character, spend $2500, and main her for 3 years. I will still give my honest thoughts and take on where she is at. So players can make the most reasonable decision.
I would say building Raiden c2 is still very strong if u hav c6 chevruse and c6 sara cuz i could 36 star the new abyss(i dont own any geo character xpect noelle lvl 50) with chevruse overload Raiden in 2nd half which seems impossible to do without geo. She can still COOK .💜🦾 I still use catch but will upgrade to homa in phase 2 weapon banner.
this video took an UNGODLY amount of time to finish. That's why I am so late. But I hope you guys still enjoy it.
Please suggest, I have c0 of furina , yelan , jean , raiden and C6 Sara , c2 cheveruse, xingling so which team should I build ???
Im amazed at the editing and explanation in this video. Your time was well spent and not in vain.
@@uncoordinatedgamer2612 thanks a lot. That is very nice to hear!
I enjoyed it
They really need to buff Raiden along with other older characters man. As a Raiden main it pains me that other c0 characters like Arlecchino/Mualani/kinich does the same or even more damage than c2/c3 raiden. T_T
I have c3r1 raiden and she easily does 600k+ burst in abyss. But man my arlecchino does the same damage and she is c0 -_-
Yeah i feel you. She needs a different weapon with crit and energy recharge for the effect. I tried to make my Raiden good for over 1 year but i gave up, too much investment for little gain. Ended up with 259% ER and 65.3% CR, 134.7 CD
Agreed. My Raiden is one of my most highly invested characters and I have all of her best supports and Arlecchino or Neuv outdamage her easily
@@andreweaton6363 yeah same man. I am f2p. I saved 300+ pulls for her c2 in 4.3 banner (I started genshin on 4.0 because of Raiden). On 4.3 I got all Bennet,Sara and Chevereuse all c6 because I lost 2 50-50s then. Then I c3 Raiden in this patch and that is only when I was able to hit 1mil with food buffs on level 60 scaramouche boss.
@@Talinthis I don't know what hoyo has planned for Archons but they need to atleast buff the Archons later when the story goes to snezhnaya arc. And I don't know why but I think venti and Raiden will be buffed kinda because of affiliation with Istaroth or something. Like Venti is called her child and we've also seen Istaroth manipulate time in Inazuma for Ei to go to the past and plant the Sakura tree. And I might be coping but Raiden's attacks doesn't only look electro but she has some space/time effects on her attacks where it's her E skill or burst or attacks in burst mode and Istaroth is the shade of time yk...So maybe something in future.....heh.....
@@chonkhampter I feel like part of it is just because we are late game though. I feel like if I pulled Raiden c0 at AR 25-40 she would feel crazy overpowered still
Got her c0 r1 q few days ago. Pulled not for the numbers but because she is a cool character and plays very easy. Can she clear all content? Yes. Is she still the strongest? No. So what? It does not matter if she clears the abyss 20 seconds longer than Arlechino or Neuvelette, she's still a top 5 star. People should remember how to enjoy gameplay rather than aiming for speedruns.
This is by far the best video on how to build up Raiden, the way you explained everything was so clear.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching.
JUST WHEN I NEEDED A RAIDEN GUIDE THANKS
Nahhh this channel is underrated wow , i'm not even 3rd of the way in and i'm convinced and subbed , gonna watch your clorinde guide as well , just want ya to know i appreciate the effort and time you put into this vid and have a great day !!
Sorry took me a while to get back here. Had a lot of trouble the last weeks with my pc setup.
Thank your for your kind words. I am gonna keep up the quality. Even look for ways to improve it.
Thank you for watching.
first time watcher here, really impressed how you highlight the pros and cons of raiden in detail, very rare in other guide videos these days. subcribed!
Thank you very much. This makes me happy to hear.
Very detailed which i have her over now like 2 years and didn't knew her kit fully thank you for the explanation!
Very appreciated dood
thank you very much :)
0:58 gave me chills with firefly’s soundtrack. Such a great melody
Love the video
Thank you very much 😊
Me trying to listen but also vibing to the One Heart x After Dark mix in the background.
Damn, Chrono Trigger lofi too? Hell yeah.
bro u have the besttttttt guide on raiden on whole youtube
Great content😍😍
Holy moly. I love to hear that. Thank you for watching!
Welcome
Just keep bringing amazing content like this🤩🤩🤩
16:36
Subtle nod to Iron Mike.
Nice 👍
Call me a simp 😂 I just got her on current banner and I keep pulling in hope of getting her constellatios. As of today, she's C2, which is extremely lucky for me because I won all three 50/50 on her banner. I also got Kinich on the side with 30 pulls. Looks like I've used up all of my luck for 2024 😅 Her signature weapon and another constellation will be on her next rerun.
Another point to get constel of raiden is the 4 stars , you have sarah and probably Chevreuse every rerun of raiden , so if the new 5* are unwanted you still can pull raiden and hope to get both 5* c6
8:53 - not true at hypercarry team about "er+electro > atk+electro", actually it's the opposite, by swapping the sands to er (the same crit damage substat value), Raiden's burst first blow damage dropped by almost 100k
Got my first Jade Wing from the first pull I ever made.
Like most I was screwing around in the menues and accidentally, or rather unwittingly, pulled on the weapon banner.
Then I got Xiangling on my free 10 poll and figured she was, ofc, the best character in the entire game.
She kinda is... But not when you go full atk% physical on field Xiangling like I did.
But it worked well enough untill I figured out the rest. 🤣
so quick question if you see it, came back to genshin after a couple years and am VERY behind. Especially character wise. The best i can do for double hydro is ayato and mona, Think that will work? only other hydro units i have is Candace and barbara
Yelan and Furina are used because they do large off field DPS and have high burst costs, allowing raiden to scale her ult stacks. If you do not have them, Rational (Raiden, Xiangling, Bennet, Xingqiu/Yelan) or Hyper(Raiden, Bennet, Sara, Kazuha/Sucrose/anemo MC)/(Raiden, Sara, Chevresue, Xiangling/Bennet) may be more accessible for you. Unfortunately, Sara and Chevreuse are pretty much only amazing for her when they are C6, with Lisa or Mona wielding Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers is actually a decent replacement for Sara before her C6 (but the rotations can be a bit clunky).
Sorry it wasnt a particularly easy answer.
Rational or Chev or even Hyper is stronger, double Hydro doesn't work without Furina. That's why people never played them before Furina's release.
@aravenouspanda2562 another main issue is that I don't have Bennet so the best team I can make atm is Raiden, Jean, xiangling, and sara
@@8ubb1egum any idea why ‘rational’ team is called rational? Im just curious
@@Spacemagic0115it's just a truncation of Raiden National
Great video! btw, Best Arlecchino team is with Furina and not Yelan since she can still stack Furina's DMG bonus because she can still take DMG even if cannot heal, and Furina gives her AOE vapes instead of 1 enemy vapes while also granting a higher elemental DMG buff and arguably higher sub DPS.
No as furina hydro application is bad so the one vaping will be furina and not arlecchino
@@WishHarbingerGaming thats why you use Kazuha and use his ult to swirl hydro
@@evrri3291 I know that already but it is still bad as
yelan hydro application>>>>>>> furina + kazuha hydro application as both take too much time
Damn I know need a just as detailed guide on yae Miko now
Lol, that thumbnail so cute
Seems like the coming reaction buffs also help Raiden specifically.
@sherifffruitfly you are talking about Electrocharged I guess? That one is going to be stronger. Gonna be interesting to see how much it improves DH clear times.
Is double hydro just out of the equation if i dont have furina? Because the chevrolet explosions are really annoying 😩
Ye bro my raiden teams getting replaced by neuvilette team my plan team is neuv with kachina sucrose and dehya I could use Jean but still thinking about it
@Willuam1726 I mean once you got a couple great teams there is no harm in spicing up your occasional abyss clears with other teams. I enjoy tinkering and experimenting. So why not.
@@NeoStarImpact fair my raiden is c0 and it's just annoying tbh as I liked her at start but now she's not my type of playstyle
So what im hearing is archon squad 🗿
Not getting any better. Guess what. The pyro Archon wants a seat too. And I am not talking about Benett. The new best in town team for Raiden is gonna be Mavuika, Xilonen, Furina
where do u get excel sheets
Thundah does all the theory crafting for my channel. He does the math and the spreadsheets. He also has his own youtube. Making mainly Wuthering Waves. Check him out. He makes great content.
This game want me to use EM build on her, it give me sign by giving me EM stats a lot, substats went into EM a lot, no crit rate/dmg straight up went into EM.
Funny how they were different type and I accidentally build a broken EM Raiden build instead of Big pp dmg
89 EM HP
76EM ATK
56 EM EM
27 EM EM
46 EM EM
sadly raiden will not utilize the maruchusse effectively. raiden should have atleast 220% ER
As a eula main she's gonna be befical to my team bc I'm gonna Need her to replace lisa with ei instead so I'm gonna need my nuke team
My party is raiden,bennet, chev and xiangling . Is it good?? (Should i put sara in there or na?)
Remove xiang and use sara in her place.. The higher the cons for her the better
I have c0 of furina,yelan, Raiden,jean , and c6 sara , c2 cheveruse, xianling so which team should i build ????
Raiden national
Im cooked i dont have yelan nahida jean furina kujou sara chevreuse
I have Raiden yealn furina but not the other and my Raiden sucks but I love Raiden (mommy)
I don't have Furina amd Yelan. Can I make it Raiden+Xingqiu+Xilonen+Barbara instead? 😢
Go for national instead
fun fact if your Raiden is too strong, she'd kill your enemies instantly thus not providing enough energy for your team. im looking at you xiangling 😂
For the record double hydro is spreadsheet bait and isn't really her strongest team (Although still one of her better teams and a comfortable one)
TL;DR: Backloaded damage, scales worse with artifact investment, Little to none AOE and mostly ST
First of all it's a very single target teamcomp with little to none frontloaded damage
A lot of bosses are beaten way easier if you have more frontloaded damage such as this abyss: PMA (Goes into weakened state quicker if health bar drops below a point within a timeframe) & Maguu Kenki (Teleports around meaning it'd be easier to do the damage quickly in the timeframe he stays still rather than more damage overtime).
Secondly, it scales worse with investment since the damage is very spread out with the teammates, say for example you get an artifact upgrade for one of your teammates, the damage increase will be lower the lower the damage contribution the character makes to the team (same with getting the signature of that character). Teams where Raiden does most of the damage does not have such a problem especially since Raiden scales quite well with artifact investment. Though this mostly only applies to c2+ (Since that's when hypercarry becomes viable) although even Rational or Overload would probably scale better.
The final reason is that it's incredibly hard to swirl both Electro and Hydro in that team, while Xilonen will completely negate that issue she'll probably make the team even more backloaded than it currently is because of how much slower she generates Fanfare stacks. Although she might make up for that with her buffs I am ready to be proven wrong on this point.
wait so what team is her current best for high investment? (c2+)
@@Adirer1 Teams where she does the most damage.
For pure DPS it's Chevreuse, Bennett & Sara (c6) but you can swap Chevreuse to Kazuha if you need the grouping since he only buffs a bit less.
@@Iudd_ do you think overload buffs will bring back the rational and chevruse for low-mid investment?
What can replace Yelan? Mona?
xinqiu
8:11 u accidentally showed desert pavilion instead of flop 😭🙏
Oh shiat 😀 my bad
i play raiden yelan benny furina lol donno what team it is but my raiden burst gives 70k on a good day
I don’t have Furina but I do have C4 Raiden…is there anyone that can sub for Furina here?
wtf are your raiden stats? 100k normal atk damage is insane
@marvinlayne3573 my C4 Raiden is pretty strong. Most of the footage is with a C0 one. But on my personal account she is C4 R5
Why my raiden Shogun ultimate max level is 10?
Yours is C0. Mine is C4.
@@NeoStarImpact so constellation increase secret art level..I got it tnks
my guide is not balanced around constellations but nice try bro
Funny though, if you get to a point where your teams clears the abyss 36 on a regular basis, it do not matter if your team does 80%, 100% or 120% of any other teams damage.
I got her to C2 R1 from CO within 140 pulls, lucky though.
Because I did invest in her anyways.
But for my other 5 Accounts I ditched her.
I'll go for new dps for my alt Accounts.
this video is making me cry so hard like what are u saying, i really dont understand from someone who is playing raiden with c6 r2 her best team is overload with chervruse than hypercarry after that whatever u want, my best damage with overload in abyss is 739k and with hypercarry is 628k
and no im not a whale just lucky so hard got at her first banner 3 back to back than now i got c6 again back to back to back idk i was meant to main her
Your take is typical for somebody who looks only on screenshot numbers. Double Hydro wipes the floor with C0 Raiden Hyper. That shouldn't be even worth a discussion.
Now let's talk C3R5. This is my investment. And I got to play that since she came out the first time. her initial slash can do 700k true. Which is about 35% of her total damage output during her burst. So overall we talk about 2.1m damage by her alone. The rest of her team Sara, Benett, Chevreuse will contribute 300k in damage. Which gets you to 2.4m. You don't see the problem? She barely beats Neuvillette and Arleccino at C0 with that. And she can't even touch them C2R1 investment. And I have a fricking R5 bro.
That's why I say go Double Hydro. Put Xilonen in the team when she is out and you get almost 2m damage with only C0 units. Invest into Furina and Yelan and you get insanely powerful units that are also very flexible and can be used in soo many teams!
This is about what makes the most sense for a player from an investment stand point and nothing else. And I thought I had that communicated clear enough. Nobody is saying Raiden C2 can't destroy content. You still can destroy everything. But it doesn't give you the most milage for the cash you throw at her. And this is just a fact. I won't lie to the players just because I love that character, spend $2500, and main her for 3 years. I will still give my honest thoughts and take on where she is at. So players can make the most reasonable decision.
@@NeoStarImpact ok i will put this theory of yours to the test and then im going to replay and tell u my experience
2 hydro and bennet
@@NeoStarImpact so after all my experience was 8/10 is strong i could see and my best damage was 432k
complete analisis, auto subs
thank you very much!
0:01 why her oppai looking so damn big from that angle..
true that. And it is just plain ingame model. No mods or anything.
Dude please lower that saturation and higher that gamma
I like my settings as they are.
I would say building Raiden c2 is still very strong if u hav c6 chevruse and c6 sara cuz i could 36 star the new abyss(i dont own any geo character xpect noelle lvl 50) with chevruse overload Raiden in 2nd half which seems impossible to do without geo. She can still COOK .💜🦾 I still use catch but will upgrade to homa in phase 2 weapon banner.