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@tiffanyferg We won't forget that you promoted Zara after the disgusting ad they ran mocking Palestinian deaths... we also won't forget your silence in this genocide Tiffany.
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I love make-overs ...doesn't matter if on people or on real estate 😅 ...I have no clue how I got here. But I did comment on some beige-white-grey staged-esque home influencer's reel yesterday: "why is all your stuff brand new, or seemingly non existent?" ... I guess the algorithm therefore thought this video was right for me😅
My partner and I are in the process of buying a flat atm. It needs some TLC, but we're actually quite excited about that - apart from being cheaper, it gives us an opportunity and an excuse to make it all look like we want to instead of having to accept the bland style of more recently redone places.
I have some friends who just did this and it looks phenomenal! It makes me laugh bc they live in a gated community that seems pretty boring but then the inside of their place is like Miami 1999.
I bought an 80s house and one of the bathrooms is exactly this. I have a teal bathtub, toilet, and sink. The faucets are dolphins that spit the water. The wall paper is dolphin ocean themed. The hand towel holders are dolphin tails. The light switch is a fish. It’s gloriously special.
21:10 I can’t remember where I read this, but someone said “If you make decisions based on resell value, you’re not owning, you’re renting from the future buyer”
Given how styles change in time, you can't know what sells best when you're selling in ten or twenty or more years. Unless you buy to flip, going for an aethetic just because it's in fashion is never a good idea. Make a space you want to live in and let the next buyer deal with the changes they might want.
@@cayreet5992I bought a home in 22. Our realtor suggested to the previous owners to not replace the damaged flooring because we may choose our own anyway. We did! I would’ve felt guilty to throw away new carpet. We don’t like carpet. I’d rather do rugs that I can swap out.
i found a rental with a pink tiled bathroom n felt so blessed bc i've literally complained about how i'll never be able to get one bc everybody flips them. she's so cute
My sister and I would die to own a house with 50's or Art Deco bathrooms with colored tiles and pink or mint fixtures. My great-grandparents had blue and pink bathrooms and I thought it was so cool because everyone else's bathroom had white toilets. I'm not sure if they survived the new owners, I know they destroyed the game cabinet for a laundry space closer to the bedrooms so I'm not confident
My husband and I felt so deeply, incredibly privileged and grateful to be able to buy his family home from his parents when they retired a few years ago. So many of my friends are resigned to the idea that they'll likely never own a home or even be able to retire. The pressure for our home to look "pintrest perfect" has never once crossed our minds. We feel far too lucky to even have a home to get sucked into social media bullshit. However, one of my friends from a wealthier family immediately asked us when we were going to "make the place your own" under the assumption that we bought the family home out of convenience rather than preference. She assumed we were going to gut the place and redo everything like she was accustomed to her mom doing every couple years. I tried to explain that my in-laws already put years of work into renovations that we actually like - lots of warm wood, cool tone slate tiles, and colorful walls - so the only adjustments we may make in the future are small details like replacing the couch when it falls apart or repainting the spare room when we need a nursery. She was stunned by our contentment, and I think that's part of the problem. Does anyone know how to be content anymore?
This. My mother always said her house was “lived in.” It’s your home, not a photo spread in Architectural Digest. My house is over 100 years old, and it kills me to know that someone would come in here and paint over all the walnut trim and hardwood floors. I feel incredibly lucky to have stable-and incredibly affordable housing-at a point in time when so many don’t. I could honestly care less what the trend cycle dictates. It kills me that all of the “sad greige” renovations are going to look soooo dated in another 5-7 years, when everyone is chasing whatever the style barons and marketing experts have declared “in” has done a 180. In 2030, people will be laughing at how cheugy and clichè all of the current Brutalism/minimalist color pallets appear. It’s just become so overdone.
After my grandparents died, my family moved into their house. My grandpa built and planned this house himself together with his construction firm back in the late 60s. When we moved in, my parents did renovate some rooms, like the bathroom and kitchen, but they mostly kept everything the way it was, because the interior style of the house also fit the exterior.
Yeah we bought a 1970s house and havent done anything except paint bc the house has custom cabinet built by the previous owner. I thought about painting the mid-toned cabinets so we can add more prefab cabinets. But we axed that idea because we love the warmth if the cabinets. IF We add more cabinets they will be custom built and stained (by ourselves) to match the current cabinets. Feels nice to add to a home rather than gut them.
We bought a house from a flipper. It was painted white, they put grey LVP over the 120-year-old hardwoods, terrible black doors everywhere, cheap grey carpet, and badly fitting vents. Our home was built in 1900, so it still has some character, unfortunately, a lot was lost. We are currently ripping out the LVP and restoring our hardwood floors, changing out all the lights, and fixing the shoddy electrical and plumbing mistakes. Unfortunately, it was the only home we could afford that offered what we wanted in the area we wanted to live. Luckily, the home will be beautiful once we are done, but it will take a lot of work to de-flip it.
I'm house hunting and I'm always sad to see beautiful Victorian houses stripped of character. Hardwood floors covered by cheap laminate that look extra terrible against the original trims. There was one I remember that had a corner bench and built in cabinets in the kitchen. It came back on the market within the year with those torn out as well as the change I listed before. It's so terrible
Yeah, that’s the main thing I don’t understand about this aesthetic. It’s an open secret that no one likes it or wants to live in it. So if you do this to your home for sale, you’re just guaranteeing that the new owner will HAVE to spend money and effort deflipping it. So how is that a good thing???? If you actually follow your own taste, there’s at least a chance a real human seller will agree with you. I guess this aesthetic is being held up by corporations just so they can make the bogus claim that they “recently renovated”????
Ugg i have the vinyl gray flooring in my kitchen, it definitely needs to be replaced in the near future because its coming loose. Im so glad the rest of the main floor i use is actually durable flooring, tile in the bathroom and bamboo flooring for the rest of it, it might be hardboard but im not sure, its probably more likely bamboo.
As an interior design student the most hilarious thing about the houses on Zillow isn't even the renovation but the fact that none of the "photos" are real they are just (poorly done) renders
I absolutely fell in love with this house I saw at an estate sale. The deceased was an artist and the detail work of the house was amazing. It was built in the 80s be designed to look like the 20s. A flipper bought the house and painted literally EVERYTHING in the house white and black. It broke my heart when I saw it relisted with the new pictures 😞
It's hurting me to see, that all beautiful houses with history and unique architecture just gets slapped with monochrome paint. I just can't imagine how they can do it and how it's "better looking". Goddammit, let's make cottarecore DND houses with wood and plants, not black and white TV from past century.
So my husband and I bought this 1910's house in the midwest, mainly because it was very cheap. Almost every feature in the house was "outdated" dark wooden floors, wodden arches in between rooms, rooms with wallpaper or wood paneling, white appliances, etc. And not having a lot of budget we just decided to lean into the "craftsman aesthetic" We mainly decorated the entire house with things we found at garage sales, estate sales, etc, again, all the furniture was pretty "outdated" but very cheap. To this day. our real state agent who is a friend of ours, shows the pictures of our house as an example of what buyers with low budget can do. We have friends who have asked us to use our living room as a set for their family, wedding, and graduation pictures. The moral of the story is, if you have an "outdated" house, own it. you'll be surprised at how great it can look if you break out of the "pristine white aesthetic"
My partner and I are replacing the pristine white and modern carpets with dark wood tones lol. Long term, we want all of our baseboards to be dark mahogany colors
Same, except ours is Edwardian. Love Craftsman, or pretty much anything with original vintage features. Have always hated trends. I unashamedly embrace my inner sense of style.
I love this so much! I’m 26 but I have a VA loan and will soon start looking into housing but the ones in my budget are definitely “outdated” as you say but I could definitely see this being so beautiful!
the sad grey flip aesthetic is very present in airbnb apartments. so many places remodeled with the same ikea furniture, stripping the historical vibe away and turning everything into a copypaste apartment that could be located anywhere in the world
Yessss exactly! I remember when Airbnb was new and I was a broke college student, so most of the time I was only booking one room in a house. They were so interesting and literally lived in! So many these days are physically uncomfy and totally boring.
I will never understand the incessant drive to change physical environments from uniqueness to bland conformity. It makes me angry. What’s even the point of traveling anywhere if everywhere becomes the exact same? Different environments generate different feelings, and it’s like diversity of feeling is being purposely destroyed in favor of a boring monoculture
only a few mins in, but i think a factor in why so many people hate the gray flipped aesthetic is due to feeling increasingly alienated in our lives. the internet is less personal, we are oversaturated with similar looking homes, fashion, and people. We enjoy a house with character built into it because its not more of the same boring, impersonal, corporate slop that we get everywhere else. Preserve what little authentic personality is left in the world instead of slapping a sad impersonal veneer over it.
Where I live and the surrounding towns, there’s luxury apartments and cookie cutter homes being built left and right, huge apartment buildings being built within a couple months, homes being finished within a couple weeks. You can just tell they’re throwing up poorly built and cheap homes and selling them for insane prices because having laminate flooring and everything black and white is considered luxurious. Point being..there’s plenty of homes being built the way flippers would. Leave the charming, old and character filled homes ALONE. Sure, take care of rotting wood or replace countertops to something more durable but for gods sake stop painting everything white and listing it for twice the price it’s worth.
My house is a 1910 Queen Anne with many original features. However, the dining room and kitchen was remodeled in the ‘60s and ‘70s. Everyone was aghast when I made it clear that I would not be removing the faux wood paneling and Mid-Century room divider. Instead I leaned into the vintage aesthetic. It has really grown on me. The room divider is beautiful with multi-colored blown glass on it when the light shines through. I also consider these changes another chapter in my home’s long history. They are simply part of the story.
When watching shows like ugliest house in America I feel a lot of the homes were just made by people to be what they liked without caring about resell bc they weren't planning to move anytime soon and I respect that.
I remember seeing a tiktok where people criticized this woman’s house and saying it would hurt the resale value. She responded basically saying “idc, this house is for me not for the hypothetical future owner”. iirc her house was fine, she just painted her walls pink and had funky decor lol
EXACTLY! If I ever buy a house I'm going to do *whatever the hell I want* with it, because if I'm *buying* a house I'm planning to *live in it* for as long as I can, not reselling it. I might resell it if I find myself in a position where I will *have* to move, but the plan A is to live in it for the rest of my life, so reselling is not something I will be thinking about. And it pains me that this is not the mentality of *all* people buying houses, because it should be, because housing shouldn't be an investment.
@@markiflierandpliendsatthed1280Yes! Some of the houses are absolutely not to my taste, but I still love them because the love of the previous owner is so evident.
Living with my grandparents I have helped with so many room changes. Gramma used to change the "theme" of one room every 5 or so years. The "horse" room. The "lavender" porch. Honesty it was fun.
So I like wood panelling lol, but if someone thinks "I should become a flipper" they made a video game for that. You dont have to do it irl and contribute to the already cluttered housing market.
I think wood paneling is decisive because nice wood paneling (real nice wood) can look great. But we are (or at least I am) often exposed to gross particle board paneling (old cardboard) from the 70s that hasn't aged well.
@@meryl5496 Exactly! I *adore* real wood paneling (though I do agree with @tiffanyferg that I personally don't want to feel like I'm living in a cabin when I'm not). But I grew up in a house where those were my bedroom walls, and so there are positive associations there, too. But fake wood paneling? I'll paint over that stuff right quick.
flipping is immoral. like some reddit post i saw the other week of some dude getting a STEAL of a deal on some product and selling it to a friend for profit... like really? you profit off your friends? society is rotten.
I thought one of the appeals of buying a home was feeling less temporary. The idea of constantly thinking of the next people in my home sounds depressing.
The thing that really gets me about the "why would you paint it that color?" especially when said about WALLS of all things is people acting like you can't just.... re-paint the walls white after you move out. Or let the next owners re-paint it to whatever color they want
Here it is kind of a custom to paint the walls after leaving a long term rental. You're expected to clean up after yourself after leaving and that includes painting the walls. I think most landlords don't mind how you paint your walls as long as it is reversible.
@@prosquatter that makes me Wonder If maybe youre German. Because in Germany (where im from) you can basically do whatever you want as Long as you can restore it when you move Out. Whereas in the UK, where i live now, you need to ASK the landlord for permission. Btw, we're also Not allowed to Put Nails into the Wall or Put Up hanging cabinets. It's Literally in our tenancy Agreement. It's a Feature of renting in the UK thats driving me insane, because... I can Just Take Out the freaking nails??? Cover it Up with filler? And there you go, Wall is still intact. But based on our tenancy Agreements in the UK, youd think the House needs to be torn down If you Paint a Wall not-white
I work at a hardware store and any time a flipper or landlord asks for the fastest, cheapest flooring/cabinets/appliances/whatever I want to leap over my desk and skewer them with my OSHA approved safety knife.
I tried to talk someone off the ledge at Lowes who was letting their contractor talk them into that cheap cold gray faux wood flooring that was actively competing with the warm oak cabinet door in her hands. Tried to steer them towards a more compatible color in the same product, and told them that the cold gray everything everywhere color scheme from 2015 was outdated when the contractor informed her, in 2019, that it was the “latest” trend. They asked if I was a contractor and told them that I was graphic designer and that at the very least they need to consider warmer tones for the flooring for a more harmonious cohesive result, then walked away. I hope she dodged that bullet.
The thing that really gets me about the "German Schmear" flippers, their entire series they said "We promise were really gonna lean into the vintage 70s style" then proceeded to strip all authentic elements and replace it with the TACKIEST junk. They removed a full wall bookshelf with plenty of character and utility, then replaced it with one of those ✨️happy day✨️ murals youd expect to see in the corner of a coffee shop or on the shelf of a Hobby Lobby. And that foam beam.......
It’s already dated, anyone who adds this aesthetic usually looks 5 years old automatically. Plus the rentals are worse, they pick too dark of a grey every time like prison
I'll never understand that urge to put grey on grey on white and black. The living room in our current rental flat actually has grey walls, but it works because there's a warmer wood floor. But those grey floors? Ugh.
The original warm knotty pine tongue and groove paneling in the breakfast nook in my 1959 kitchen is what gives it so much character so we kept it, but we did swap out the knotty pine cabinets for solid wood cream colored cabinets with bronze handles that age over time to a beautiful patina. We also updated the original turquoise Formica atomic pattern countertops with coffee brown granite countertops (natural product) at a time when everyone was doing white quartz (amalgamation of natural product to make a fake product). I’m so glad I did not fall for the trend of the moment of white on white on gray, unnatural materials, and demolishing walls everywhere, which I absolutely despise. My warm wood kitchen is still so charming and cozy to me even 7 years later, and people are always delighted by it when they come over for the first time, because it’s updated, but not soulless. I’m also glad I ignored people who told me to paint the original brick double sided fireplace in the kitchen or demolish it completely for an open plan kitchen, which I hate. I can’t imagine why people are so offended by walls or brick, except that HGTV has told them that they’re “wrong”. You are absolutely correct that people perceive “outdated” features in a house as a signifier of “poverty”, or that they must make every renovation appealing to future buyers and not their own personal tastes. It’s ludicrous, especially when that mindset compels people to destroy beautiful homes with charm and character.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. Not only is my home not aesthetic, it’s a *gasp* mobile home!! The worst of the worst, socially at least. Sometimes I need to be reminded that homes are for memories, not perfection.
My parents had a mobile home after retiring - I loved it! Just enough space, no stairs and a simple lay out. Relatively inexpensive to purchase and a small or with just enough putter space. Perfect! I want one!
I feel like part of the "millennial grey" trend was a responce to stated trends form the 90s and early 2000s. It was trying to make things "timeless" so that we didn't have to constantly keep up with timely trends. Turns out it just became a dated trend itself, and the culture wheel keeps turning.
I could see that. Even as a small child I found some of the trends of the 90s and 2000s gaudy and too much. But I've found the reverse of everything being grey and grey on black and white to be drab, depressing and lacking personality. The modern trends feel like they're so afraid of having anything unique they lack any personality and are actually quite stifling. in an attempt to be timeless, the people who made this trend failed to understand what makes something timeless in the first place, and that's a really good design being unique but beloved. This modern trend lacks any personality and because of that, I dont think anyone is going to be nostalgic for it.
I agree with freeemberess. The black on gray on white aesthetic is a flattened and rather soulless regurgitation of mid-century modern without the verve. The clean lines and form meets function design of MCM was a space-age era pushback against bad floor plans, mismatched maximalism, and elaborate but functionless aesthetics. MCM had something to stand in opposition to or as an answer to. The modern version of it is merely surface. It answers no real questions and very little is asked of it. It's job is to be a nothingness rather than a somethingness.
@@laurad324 i can see that but i agree w the others. I rly miss just about any design choice other than today's go-to of ultramodern minimalism and sharp edges and super blah
ok but that honey oak kitchen you showed was genuinely very good looking and reminded me of the kitchens my rich friends had growing up. Also i prefer tuscan kitchens from the 2000s to the greyscale kitchens of today. those older kitchens were warm and inviting!
To me, these houses are meant to look good on camera. Cool tones (especially cool lighting) look much better on camera than their warm counterparts. Both the home reno shows and house listings are filtered through the camera, which lends to wanting to make these houses as photogenic as possible.
@@tiffanyferg i disagree with regards to house listings. you're supposed to go see the house in person, not buy it online like an amazon product sight-unseen. the photos just are supposed to give you a general idea.
@@ab8817 Buyers ideally would see a home in person, but the first way most people see a home is in photos online. Being able to look amazing in photos still grabs the attention of buyers enough to get them in the door.
@@ЕкатеринаАн-у3б yes that's my point exactly. then you're looking for the wrong things when buying a house - which is a contributing factor to the current housing market. too many people with whacked out misinformed HGTV-poisoned priorities.
In my town there was a flipper who bought a historical victorian house that had murals and they gutted it. The house is significant because the house was owned by a mayor from my town who did a lot of good for the town. The murals had been made by his wife. The flippers made it grey and modern. It bombed and sold for way under their asking price.
My Mum designed our house with an architect. Even though it was a new build so many people have said it looks like it's been there forever. She went for a rich, cosy colour palette and the house in a Georgian country cottage style. She asked my Dad to get a few things for our kitchen and he chose these chrome ceiling spotlights with really cold light. She walked into the room, said, "I'm not living in a morgue" and told him to change them immediately. 😂
Oh that staircase destruction at 4:45 truly made my heart bleed. This kind of destruction should be freaking illegal 😫 And about that kitchen choice, I've seen hospital rooms more welcoming than that white kitchen. So sterile, so cold, hard pass for me. The wood one is actually the kind I would love in my house, beautiful, warm, inviting, cosy...perfection!
Literally. My parents recently bought a beautiful historical house, and I, sad work-at-home millenial that I am, moved with them. But a joke me and my mum now have is how every time we have a guest or friends stay over, they tell us how we should renovate it. It has a very small kitchen, which is already tastefully modern, but everyone says how we should extend it into the next room, how we need a kitchen island, about how the largest room in the house should be the kitchen actually. It's so automatic, and everyone is so insistent that it's honestly hilarious and we just laugh. I LIKE our teeny kitchen! It's so small that other people can't comfortably stand around annoying you while you're trying to cook or make tea 😂 Decorate your own darn houses! We've only just got here, let us enjoy it!!!!
Facts. I know big open kitchens are on trend right now, but I actually don't mind (and might even prefer) small kitchens. To me, a kitchen is a work space. I don't need or want to be hanging out in it all the time.
Closed kitchen please, so I can close the door and smoke or vapor don’t go through the living room. Here I have very warm summers, so If im using the oven I can just close the door of the kitchen and the rest of the apartment is still cool.
@@Uneclipsed Genuine question, who tf says that it's "on trend"? It feels like every person I know hates these trends and yet there's somehow this mystical 'modern consumer' who's in love with this stuff. It's like they only exist online or in design magazines. I honestly feel like it's a big psyop to justify lazy work (lower costs!) by flippers and developers, while keeping prices high
I work in cabinetry and what's really crazy about the whole "just paint your cabinets!" suggestion is that refacing can cost about as much as a total remodel, depending on where you get your cabinets from. i really like the designer you shared. her suggestion of changing whats around your cabinets and flooring to fit your aesthetic was really smart
My childhood home recently has been put back on the market, after they removed the sunroom, took out all privacy hedges, removed the garage, took out the 40 plus year old peony tree, The blueberries, the cherry tree and all the built-in, the pantry and the linen closet, the original 1940’s light fixtures and painted all the brick. And are charging twice what my family sold it for. Update: they couldn’t sell it at the massively inflated price and unlisted it.
It makes me especially mad when I see trees get ripped out. When she showed the Before pics from the house in Scottsdale, that was my first reaction: Oh look, they ripped out the trees. :/
When my parents moved into their current house like 16-17 years ago, the kitchen had dark wood cabinets and brick-like tile countertops - and I LOVED it. It was so beautiful and cozy, and I could just imagine hanging up string lights under the cabinets and setting plants in the corners, and generally feeling like you're standing in some old Italian villa or something. They ripped out the countertops to replace them with white marble, and painted the cabinets gray.
This is why I just build and renovate houses in the sims. I can curate my aesthetic and decorate a cute space without consequence! It really gets the “I need to go to ikea” urge out of my system.
That's a good idea... I've been at Ikea at least once a week for the past few months and my partner has to supervise me so I don't buy a bunch of stuff every time 😂 if it was up to me I'd always be taking home another trinket, another plushie or another plant.
I looooove the 70 retro colored bathrooms. It has so much cool character and easily feels relaxing/homey. Also the same kind of kitchens with the lovely colored refrigerators.
What really gets me about these stark greige interiors is how much more cluttered they will look & feel when they’re actually lived in and full of objects
Lately, I have been watching a creator who bought a crumbling house that was once owned and built by an architect and was featured in an architectural magazine in the '60s but had fallen to disrepair, and I am so fascinated by the care and attention that they put into restoring such a beautiful property. It's a shame to see the ones that are not done with as much love.
So sad all the things they had to throw away because of the mold, though. I understand they didn't have much of a choice, but it still breaks my heart a little to see it all go.
The most unforgivable kind of flipping to me is those who seek out Victorian houses (with mostly periodic interior and furniture) and *gut* the interior and change it into all-white sterile look, so while the exterior remains untouched the interior turns into an all "modern" style now... 🤢🤢🤬🤬💀🔥 I might personally lean towards minimalism, but holy hell...anything reminiscent of concrete (and by extension brutalism) is where I draw the goddamned line 🤦🏽. Like sure, not all Victorian homes have _significant_ historical value but damn, if you want a modern house with modern interior why not buy one with modern _exterior_ as well?? There are lots of people out there who like Victorian houses who got priced out by these flippers, leave them Victorian houses alone! 🤦🏽🤦🏽💀
Give me natural woods, warm tones, close plan kitchens, and original fixtures any day. Whoever said the pastel bathroom is from the 70s knows nothing about- they were big in the 30s.
Right, and like pastel bathroom just makes programmatic sense from an architectural perspective. Here is a relaxing space, a clean space, a space to freshen, soaps and the flowers that go into perfumes are pastel. Everything about a pastel bathroom is pretty and inviting. I absolutely love my Grandparents' pastel pink bathroom.
This was a really good video topic. We moved into our “forever home” last year. I have been overwhelmed with all the “updates” it needs, and little by little I am renovating. However, I still struggle with the feeling that it doesn’t look “new and fresh”, I needed to hear this. I needed to hear that it is okay to have dark wood cabinets. It isn’t the end of the world . I have a beautiful family and a beautiful home, why does it matter if my kitchen is “outdated”? It really doesn’t, I am lucky to have safety, and to have a home at all. Anyway, thanks.
One thing all architects told me is that NEVER use barn doors for bathrooms, because they are not private enough and you can hear EVERYTHING. Also, why do people who live in Phoenix hate trees? Why would anybody want to have a garden without trees? They cut the trees of that blue door house. That's a crime, or should be.
I'm not from Arizona but have visited Tucson often and hated it because of the lack of trees and greenery. I'm sure the lack of trees is due to the climate and not being able to survive with water restrictions but surely there are some green cacti that could be added give life?? It's just brown and rock as far as the eye can see, at least in Tucson.
Fun fact, Phoenix is a desert. We dont hate trees, our trees just look different. We like our Saguaro and other indigenous plants, and the desert has a unique beauty. What we do hate is people thinking our space needs to look like theirs- otherwise we are the haters.
People usually like to go for particle board white furniture like those from IKEA but I'm totally a sucker for wood aesthetic and it's so easy to find second hand hardwood furniture online because the young generation doesn't want their grandparents' furniture. It is so much more durable and you can do woodworking to modify it.
I was in the incredibly privileged position to sell my first home to buy a second one last year. It was incredibly popular as it’s a cheap building in a capital city with very little housing. I made the decision I would immediately rule out landlords with hundreds of properties (if I could discover they were landlords) and investors and try to sell it to someone struggling to find their first home. I was lucky to find an amazing buyer who’s loved it as much as I did!
I hope to be able to do this with my current home! My current home isn’t my forever home or even in my forever state/ city. I hope when we do go to sell we can sell it to a family. I REFUSE to sell it to a landlord, especially a slumlord. The home was previously owned by a slumlord and is in desperate need of TLC, all because the landlord couldn’t care enough to take care of the house. I live in a TINY town with a small university and the rent is insane here. One of the biggest cities in my state is actually CHEAPER to rent a home than my small town. It’s ridiculous and insane and no one needs to be putting more money into landlords pockets when there’s so many unhoused people in my city. It’s heartbreaking.😞💔
@@dismurrart6648 exactly! I’m sure if I love it, another home owner will appreciate all of the TLC and love that went into the home.🖤 that’s all I could ever ask for 🤣🖤
@@Shart-santha the sellers told our agent they were happy it was going to a young family. That made me happy. It was their parents home so I'm taking good care of it.
@@dismurrart6648 house investors are sick people that I wish didn't exist. They aren't even people to me - they value nothing, they just destroy everything that is beautiful or good about a home.
As someone who is currently looking to buy a house, and tends to quickly dismiss anything that appears "outdated", this was a very eye-opening video! I will definitely look at things differently while I continue my search :)
my mom has had the same dishwasher in her kitchen for 30 years and i remember it breaking once? meanwhile i have had dishwasher issues in every apartment with an updated kitchen i have lived in. give me an "outdated kitchen" with old appliances any day XD
As someone who just bought a house and isn't ready to give up the Zillow addiction, I would watch and rewatch a whole video of you having hot takes about Zillow listings
While house hunting, I learned that if a house looks like it could be from HGTV, don’t bother with it. I have seen so many flips with bad results on the exterior - I am terrified of what is underneath.
Yes, I feel that! It breaks my heart flippers don’t care and are only in it for the money. My husband and I are renovating our home, NOT flipping it. The home needs so much TLC and has been neglected over the years because it was used as a slumlord’s rental😞. It breaks my heart because I see the potential in it. I hope my renovations can do this home justice! A loved home is not a cheap home.🖤
Im glad im not the only person on the planet who hates grey, white, cheap materials, ikea, etc. I am currently painting my bathroom Barbie pink, the living room is green with a hot pink sofa. I love wood and character and random features. As soon as I see grey and white everywhere, I think of what I can paint and add antiques furniture to.
Preservationist here! Thank you so much for this video! The terrible lack of preservation in the interiors is very much a US problem. In other words a cultural effect of the concept of freedoms and personal privacy. There are many pros to these cultural concepts and many cons… such as the gutting of amazing historic structures… again thank you for this video!
Honestly I wish for more historical societies going around making homes illegal to make certain changes to. I live in a historic building with huge 11 foot ceilings and big arches to match, a big bay window and super tall windows with huge trim, and was told by my realtor that I wouldn't be allowed to alter those kinds of features. And I was like, GOOD, the only real problem is that someone prior to me was apparently allowed to PAINT them which is irritating but I'm glad to know whomever I sell it to can't ruin it either. Unfortunately the bedrooms have horribly cheap particle board doors slapped on, including the closets, and the kitchen has those white shaker cabinets with black T shaped pulls. That'll be a project for me to fix.
It’s funny because the preservation of Architecture and housing is why so many Americans are impressed when they go to Europe. They see these old historic structures that are preserved and the way modern life is built into cities without sacrificing native and historic aesthetics. It’s so beautiful to see a country with its art and culture thriving where we’re constantly washing ours away for money. Yes having old buildings is a safety concern but there’s a way to renovate without stripping all the originality.
After my mum passed I had to sell my childhood home and having these flippers come in and tell me how they were planning on tearing down my childhood bedroom wall and re-sell within 3 months absolutely killed me. They expected me to be exited about their plans as well 🙃
My parents bought a flat in 1993 and renovated it slowly. My bathroom used to have dark brown furniture and tiles and when I was around five they changed it, the kitchen a couple of years later, my mum choose some square green tiles that I adored, they swaped furniture, paints and decor slowly but over the years made it such a homey and lovely place. When they sold it because we had to move close to my grandparents due to their health the new couple gutted it completely (we went to see the neighbours a year after and the new owners invited us in). Everything was minimal and white. Gone were the warm oak floors, doors and trim, the green tiles and the antique built in wardrobes. It seemed to me like they wanted a modern place so much but it didn't fit the slightly historical flat they bought
I hate this. A similar thing happened when my grandmother’s house in Massachusetts sold the last time. My mom’s best friend who still lived in the area sent her the listing. They thankfully kept the original wainscoting, but painted over all the natural wood. 😭 So sad. I was fourth generation in that house, so while it’s sad to see it turned into a shadow of itself, it does appear that there have been families living there versus someone turning it into a Scare BnB or flipping it. I’m hoping we can keep the home I grew up in in the family, though it’s much larger than what I need. It sucks to have to let so many memories go. I’ve had to learn that it’s not the house, it’s the people there who matter.
😭😭😭 I'm sorry for your cool old home. My last house was a rental I lived in for 11 years. It needed some structural work and maybe some updating here and there. It got sold to flippers. They painted everything white or beige (including the basement that needed to be waterproofed), got rid of the beautiful "Charleston green" exterior door, and fixed maybe one of the many structural issues. They also got rid of the functional things, like the ceiling fans and window unit. I hope the new full time owners give it the love and care it deserves. But I kind of doubt it.
I’m so sorry that must have been heartbreaking. My partner and I were lucky enough to buy a home built in the early 1800s with some of the original features intact, and we couldn’t imagine getting rid of them. Hoping to put lots of care into maintaining the integrity of the original design while also “over personalizing” from a realtor perspective
I'm listening to this while painting my newly purchased house. It was a covid renovation that didn't sell so it's been an Airbnb for the last few years. My city is in the middle of a flip epidemic that's tearing down beautiful, character filled homes and replacing them with awful 'modern farmhouse' monstrosities. My house was built in 1925 and the inspection revealed they'd done extensive structural/functional updates and while it does have some 'typical flip' features (white kitchen) and clearly had extensive changes made to the floorplan, I'm glad so much character was maintained (original wood floors! The outside wasn't painted white!) Now that most the walls have been painted and it's not a white void it definitely looks better. I am so glad the previous owner was so desperate to sell so I could afford a nice renovation and not get stuck with the awful flips I saw in my house hunt.
I’m an interior designer and your comment about “achieving an apex of perfection” is what I try to warn clients against. My motto is “if it makes you happy, then let’s lean into it.” Screw trends and the idea of a perfect home.
We rent our home, and have been in it for 9 years. Built in 1910. Kitchen is smallish but functional. All the wood downstairs is in decent shape(although poorly stained at some time) its an old house, and looks old, which we love. My style, is mid century modern. I recently painted out kitchen pink and green. It turned out phenomenal. I still smile when i walk in it and it has been done since February. I did everything on my own. Got a pink cabinet, pink microwave and coffee pot. N mint green toaster and air fryer. I hate bland white grey blah blah blah. Its like people only want to live black and white. How boring. Life is full, live in color 😊
25:34 the fact they have paved over the entire front garden is another flipper special. Nice garden space is horrible because they might have to do some maintenance.
Honestly, this totally works for me because I’m big on potted gardens. Less water waste, you don’t have to leave your beloved plants behind, and you can rearrange as you please. And also pots are gorgeous! This is highly dependent on where you live and if you’re in a drought prone / grass lawns are an absurdity type of place though.
The most outrageous decoration "update" I saw on a tv show was the covering of beautiful white and blue designer tiles with white vinyl. The tiles even fit in with the decoration they chose for the house, which was blue and white. I know that was probably done just to advertise the vinyl, but it made me unnecessarily annoyed. The kitchen with light wood and white appliances makes me feel at home, since that's how most kitchens in my country look like. Also I love warm coloured spaces.
LOOOVE that we're finally talking about this. I hate the discourse around "finding your personal style" especially as it relates to your home. Like, it's your home. If you like something, buy it. It doesn't matter if everyone else hates it, it doesn't even matter if it "goes with the rest of your house" - if you like it, you want it, it makes you happy and you can afford it, get it. Also, when I was renting a house I did the whole 'peel and stick tile, wallpaper, etc' some are worth it, but most are not! And your landlord will NOT appreciate it 😭
maybe this is me outing myself as a millennial, but i do love the grey floors when they're balanced with your furniture and decorations. we have a very grey/white house but with black furniture, green accent walls, and lots of plants and wall decor, it feels much more homey and aesthetic! i think the "clean and new" vibe is what so many flippers are going for, but they overshoot into sterile and unwelcoming because they're afraid to inject any type of personality into the spaces. if you're into moody and dark aesthetics, though, they can be a good foundation!
I like your point about cheap materials being in vogue. Expensive interiors often feature wood paneling and tile floors which are all the things flippers are covering up.
My parents built our home in the mid-2000s and I remember feeling weird that it was so "old fashioned" when it was brand new. But my parents didn't care about trends and just wanted a timeless ranch-style home, and today I think it's incredible! Real wood, warm tones, and perfect for growing up
We bought a flat 3 years ago and don't love the kitchen, but it's functional, and we needed to change up the bathroom for my disability. We ended up changing the knobs on the cupboards and drawers, and were thinking of painting the cabinets, but after we put the knobs on, they gave such a different vibe we actually left it there. You don't need to change everything, and while we'll be doing something very different when we have the budget, that small change was enough for us in the meantime
I was just talking with someone about how the ‘white house with black trim and wooden/black porch beams’ is popular right now because it’s a sign of wealth. You have to pay to get the house painted and then regularly cleaned to keep it that fresh white or polished black. You usually see it with a professionally done lawn (another cost). This bland exterior is a show of wealth to the neighbors despite its complete and utter lack of curb appeal or blending in with a neighborhood.
One thing nobody talks about: I get sooo many hand me downs from my grey/black and white decorating mother so i have to buy things with color to balance it out. Like thank you for this grey basket from tj maxx, i must fill it with colorful cat toys
My partner and I just got a rental, my mother in law is overjoyed and wants to give us all her old furniture. I am incredibly grateful because it is good quality and we can't afford to furnish an entire house. But she loves a sleek, black/brown/grey/beige, almost corporate aesthetic. I am a colour and texture fiend. Never mind. I will pull a Tim Gunn and MAKE IT WORK
Well on the bright side: grey goes with every colour and looks different next to different colours! ,said my 6th grade art teacher … I wonder if that kind of thought is why people make everything grey?
I love outdated houses especially if they are in good conditions. Especially if it belonged to someone who was a fan of antiquing. I love wood panels, I love pink bathrooms, I love painted or colorful tiles. Just give me all of it! I have a soul of a grandma I know...
I also LOVE the warm wood cabinets! My mom has them in her house and wants to change them because they're "dated." I keep telling her to just wait another 5-10 years and that style will be back on trend!
Just bought a house and I simply re-stained my cabinets - cost effective and, in my opinion, beautiful. I just know warm woods are going to be back in style in the next few years and these all white kitchens will look dated.
I'm thankful for my apartment, which was built in the 70s, and while my landlord has changed some things, many others are truly beautiful. The cherry wood cabinets and beautiful granite countertops were one of the things I was most excited about. That said, I do also like a lot of the simplicity of the current trends - I prefer a clean, unfussy environment so I don't feel stressed by too much visual clutter. My walls are a dove grey, however I love that color. I have mostly modern-looking white furniture, but I like to think that I let my décor pieces do most of the talking. I have lots of vintage bird art, Murano art glass, and I've recently started a collection of Japanese chokin plates.
12:25 I love love LOVE this style of 50s/60s kitchen cabinetry. Finding this still intact would actually be a huge plus for me. It really bums me out to know that survived 60+ years only to be ripped out everywhere now to create these artificial “modern” grey monstrosities that make no sense with the house’s age or the rest of its design
7:28 i really needed to hear that. ive been struggling a lot lately because everyone on social media is like "whats you're aesthetic??" with like 4 options and everyone seems to have an answer but i just....dont! im learning to be ok with it, and i know thats not fully the point of the video but THANK YOU
My apartment is full of these greys - luckily I have lots of my grandparent’s furniture to give the place some personality - my favourite thing is that nothing matches perfectly but it works
My first house was built in 1946. I loved it so much. We changed the cabinet doors in the kitchen but kept the original cabinet boxes. We changed the faux marble laminate countertops to honed black granite. But my very favorite thing we did was take up the linoleum floors in the kitchen. My contractor just wanted me to tile over it, but I had a feeling there were original hardwoods under the linoleum. And I was right! I loved that little old house so much. Sometimes I wish I still lived there. Even if there was only one full bathroom.
Multiple bathrooms are useful if you have a family, but it's not as much of a necessity as some US homes with more bathrooms than bedrooms would make you believe.
i just gotta say I love white appliances. I enjoy not having fingerprints or worry about my dog pressing his nose against it as nothing shows up. My dad used to yell at us growing up so much for leaving fingerprints on the fridge and we had to open the fridge a certain way as to not leave marks so much unnecessary stress.
I love the warm wood kitchen! I had the great opportunity to have the budget to renovate our kitchen a few years ago. I skipped the all white and gray as it looked so common and overdone. I got a lovely sandalwood color all wood stained cabinet design that will last for decades. If you are the homeowner who plans to live there long term, you will care to put in the quality upgrades. The house flippers only put in “just good enough” features and appliances to get the sale.
I used to live in a high rise “corporate” apartment complex, complete with ugly grey everything. Now that we own a townhome, it’s sooo cozy. I’ve decorated every inch of it to look like a Ghibli film haha
As someone who bought a house with white cabinets, they show EVERYTHING. Every little speck and smudge from normal kitchen use. Such a pain to clean. White appliances are similar. Give me those warm woods any day.
Yeah, I've had white cabinets for 16 years and on the one hand the fact that it shows everything probably means I have cleaned the cabinets more than I would have otherwise. But I also feel like they look dirty the day after I spent hours deep cleaning them since even a little bit of dust becomes a grey line on the bottom of the panel of the door.
One of the worst side effects of the current housing trends is the fact it's made from horrible products - way higher amounts of plastic etc which means we're just living in a more toxic environment that is supposed to be our HOME.
Another weird trend I've seen in houses for sale recently is the use of 3D assets to "fill out" a space. So there will be a flower put or a bed or a sectional sofa in the listing that was placed like one of those "decorator apps," because it makes the place look nicer than it would empty or with your own furniture in it, and it's cheaper than hiring a designer or renting "show pieces" to fill out the space.
Yes, it's so cheap, also I see it a lot in rental listings, like NO, SHOW ME THE SPACE not an out-of scale clipart off-angle bedspread in trendy print! 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Much Love
I get it for an apartment or condo since they usually have obvious floor plan layouts and are similar to each other. Most don't want to use their personal belongings for the photos. But for a house, actually pay for a home stager. Each home and picture angle is different and those apps DON'T proportion the assets properly.
13:49 my parents house growing up (and still to this day) has different colored tile in every bathroom: pink, yellow, blue, and I love them! it was always easy to differentiate like when my mom would ask me to clean “the yellow bathroom” lol
A friend of mine moved into an early 2000s house with the warm oak kitchen and instead of painting just adding new black hardware brought it more into line with her style. I wrote the above part of my comment before the part of the video with the toning down of the warm kitchen to realize my friend also did this by painting the walls cool colours too.
Between the warm wood kitchen and the white one…I’d pick the white one because I could immediately paint it without feeling guilty about covering up the lovely wood! (We just bought a house that was painted Sad Grey with a white kitchen, and immediately painted the whole place in multiple colors-the kitchen is now green.)
I actually think part of the reason we are disgusted by outdated features is because of how we view old people. The pink and green 50s tile? People will say "ugh, that looks like my grandma's bathroom." Not that the poverty explanation is wrong, esp for like the Tuscan kitchen, which isn't that long ago (honestly, the the poverty and ageism ideas are probably related since retirees are typically on a fixed income)
I agree on most points in this video though I think it’s good to be cautious as well to not lean to far in the other direction and say that modern looking or gray and white neutrals are automatically ugly or have “no character” it’s about balance.
Seeing these atrocious, gray, lifeless homes makes me so grateful for the dated, beautiful, lived-in homes I grew up in. I was surrounded by a lot of un-trendy, 60s-90s aesthetics at my mom's and grandparents', and it has totally informed my taste, to my benefit. I love the character and uniqueness of past styles, and the nostalgia is also so cozy.
My childhood home was an 80’s build, for most of my childhood it wasn’t the most stylish trendy house but it was cozy and functional, we didn’t end up renovating it until 2015 after we had lived there for YEARS, it’s so important to live somewhere first to figure out what u wanna change
We recently sold our house for sale by owner, prior to this we had several meets with realtors who basically told us no one would buy our house unless we re painted everything white. We knew some painting here and there made sense, but truly it sounded like an insult to the wood work. Fast forward to us being able to sell our house on our own, over asking and within 2 weeks. It made me feel better knowing the right person will come along and love our house just like we did and not the landlord special.
from the perspective of somebody who needs a kitchen renovation but can't afford it because our cabinets are actually unusable and it'll be like $15,000 for fixed ones... these people take what they have so forgranted it makes me sick to my stomach for real. like we can't even afford to get plastic counter tops and the most basic cabinets but people are disgusted by marble counters and pristine cabinets
Yes! The amount of obscene waste and destruction I see in these renovations is disgusting. Like, why would you sledgehammer a perfectly good countertop? Just uninstall it! Send it to a salvage store, someone will want it! What a sad, shameful waste of a precious material mined from the earth that could last hundreds of years. It's totally gross and maddening to me.
That entitled attitude is so obnoxious especially when it’s driven by the perception that having “old things” in your home means that you’re “poor” and then replacing every bit of charm and character with the cheapest ugliest fake gray and white materials from the DIY flipper section at a big box hardware store.
@@Kira_MartelHGTV has done a grave disservice to the development of personal taste, style, and especially common sense. My husband and I did our own demo of our 1959 kitchen and used screwdrivers, cordless drills, and a SawzAll to remove the kitchen cabinets and countertops. Not once was a sledgehammer even necessary.
@@Pinnfeathers I read an article recently that talked about HGTV's move to demo-heavy remodeling shows compared to their earlier lineup which was more aimed at working with what you had (Design on a Dime, etc.). It said that the network was trying to capture a more male audience, and that destructive demolition with smashing and breaking of walls, countertops, cabinets, etc. was more appealing to those male viewers.
@@Kira_Martel obviously they’re appealing to male viewers who have no idea how to use the correct tool for a specific task. My husband is an avid successful DIYer, gentleman farmer, mechanic, etc. and he’s always the first to call out these cosplaying demolition nuts with pointless sledgehammers on home “improvement”shows. The only one he will watch now is This Old House since the people on that show actually know what they’re doing.
I don’t always hate white walls; they can really draw light into a room that would be quite dark otherwise. However, I do not want everything else in the room to be white. I need COLOR.
Omg that historic house at 4:45 cannot be real. Is this not protected as historic property?? That renovation is truly sad. I noticed that I really do not like the blank white/grey modern style and rather have som warm wood tones etc. Its just so much more cozy than those glass/stone black and white cubes. This always reminds me of cold workspaces.
I like the white/grey modern style, but not when it's done cheaply, AND ALSO when it includes texture!! I personally like the glass, but I also love stone, some wood tones, brick/german smear, plaster, concrete... I know a lot of people think that stuff is cold anyway, but it can be warmed up so much with other things like art, plants, rugs, and then the furnishings too. I think what I like about the modern style is the simplicity, because while a lot of people talk about needing a house that looks lived in via clutter and lots of belongings, that kind of thing makes my skin crawl with anxiety. I'm not a minimalist, but growing up in households where there was just stuff everywhere was so overwhelming!
This is exactly what is going on in my little gentrification town. The old ranch houses with brick getting painted white and black trim. Also an entire new neighborhood looks like all these grey shades of ticky tacky boxes. Looked into what they looked like in the inside grey, white, grey and the smallest kitchen in an open floor plan. Smaller than an apartment. Wild. Also the start at 275,000 3 bed two bath one level 1400 sq feet. Insane
The older neighbourhoods in my city are being ruined by these infill builds ugh. I hate visiting these neighbourhoods and enjoying the lovely architecture only to be jumpscared by the weirdest eyesore of a modern build. Bonus points if the land was subdivided and now there's two skinny houses instead of just building one normal sized house. I do like a lot of design/aesthetic elements of modern architecture, but the way that it's used, especially when it comes to gentrification or used as infill, makes me so mad.
Honestly I was pretty 50/50 split on the list of outdated rooms you showed which gives me comfort that actually I just know what I like and don’t like in a space. None of the rooms were 100% to my taste but most of them looked liveable (except the carpeted bathroom because I agree that has to go, that seems like a damp issue waiting to happen) and some rooms deffo had features I would keep or could think of ways to tweak to suit my personal taste. And if I was choosing between wood cabinet kitchen and all white kitchen I’d choose the wood!
With the “future resale value thing”, I remember being a kid and my mom having parts of our house painted beige. When I asked her why she chose that color (that I made comments about being depressing) she mentioned that it would be good for when they sell it. At the time my parents were planning on staying there until I graduated high school (and years later now they’re still living there), so I was confused. I said between that time she’d probably paint it again anyway just to have a change and even still it was years and years later so it shouldn’t matter for now. As a matter of fact, she has since had most of what was painted some shade of beige painted another color. I could understand making potential larger or more expensive changes further in advance for potential future buyers, but for something as easy as painting (that my dad, who used to be a home painter, could get done fairly quickly) I didn’t and still don’t understand why she felt like doing that more than a decade before she was planning on selling
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I love make-overs ...doesn't matter if on people or on real estate 😅 ...I have no clue how I got here. But I did comment on some beige-white-grey staged-esque home influencer's reel yesterday: "why is all your stuff brand new, or seemingly non existent?" ... I guess the algorithm therefore thought this video was right for me😅
I wrote my undergraduate dissertation on this exact topic! I find this style so captivating in its blandness, austerity, and placelessness😭
My partner and I are in the process of buying a flat atm. It needs some TLC, but we're actually quite excited about that - apart from being cheaper, it gives us an opportunity and an excuse to make it all look like we want to instead of having to accept the bland style of more recently redone places.
@@csr7080good luck! I’m looking at a condo tomorrow with the same thought in mind.
Please link it!!
I call it "vogue morgue"
Architect?
When I get my own place, I'm painting the walls teal blue and having an early 2000s dolphin aesthetic and no one can stop me.
Teal blue is so beautiful! I am painting my bedroom in that color!
I have some friends who just did this and it looks phenomenal! It makes me laugh bc they live in a gated community that seems pretty boring but then the inside of their place is like Miami 1999.
That is exactly what my parents let me do to one of their bathrooms back in the 90's and it exists that way to this day
Micarah Tewers just redid a room in her house and used teal paint and wallpaper. It looks *amazing.*
I bought an 80s house and one of the bathrooms is exactly this. I have a teal bathtub, toilet, and sink. The faucets are dolphins that spit the water. The wall paper is dolphin ocean themed. The hand towel holders are dolphin tails. The light switch is a fish. It’s gloriously special.
21:10 I can’t remember where I read this, but someone said “If you make decisions based on resell value, you’re not owning, you’re renting from the future buyer”
That’s such a good saying.
Given how styles change in time, you can't know what sells best when you're selling in ten or twenty or more years. Unless you buy to flip, going for an aethetic just because it's in fashion is never a good idea. Make a space you want to live in and let the next buyer deal with the changes they might want.
@@cayreet5992I bought a home in 22. Our realtor suggested to the previous owners to not replace the damaged flooring because we may choose our own anyway. We did! I would’ve felt guilty to throw away new carpet. We don’t like carpet. I’d rather do rugs that I can swap out.
i found a rental with a pink tiled bathroom n felt so blessed bc i've literally complained about how i'll never be able to get one bc everybody flips them. she's so cute
My sister and I would die to own a house with 50's or Art Deco bathrooms with colored tiles and pink or mint fixtures. My great-grandparents had blue and pink bathrooms and I thought it was so cool because everyone else's bathroom had white toilets. I'm not sure if they survived the new owners, I know they destroyed the game cabinet for a laundry space closer to the bedrooms so I'm not confident
My husband and I felt so deeply, incredibly privileged and grateful to be able to buy his family home from his parents when they retired a few years ago. So many of my friends are resigned to the idea that they'll likely never own a home or even be able to retire. The pressure for our home to look "pintrest perfect" has never once crossed our minds. We feel far too lucky to even have a home to get sucked into social media bullshit.
However, one of my friends from a wealthier family immediately asked us when we were going to "make the place your own" under the assumption that we bought the family home out of convenience rather than preference. She assumed we were going to gut the place and redo everything like she was accustomed to her mom doing every couple years. I tried to explain that my in-laws already put years of work into renovations that we actually like - lots of warm wood, cool tone slate tiles, and colorful walls - so the only adjustments we may make in the future are small details like replacing the couch when it falls apart or repainting the spare room when we need a nursery. She was stunned by our contentment, and I think that's part of the problem. Does anyone know how to be content anymore?
This. My mother always said her house was “lived in.” It’s your home, not a photo spread in Architectural Digest. My house is over 100 years old, and it kills me to know that someone would come in here and paint over all the walnut trim and hardwood floors. I feel incredibly lucky to have stable-and incredibly affordable housing-at a point in time when so many don’t. I could honestly care less what the trend cycle dictates.
It kills me that all of the “sad greige” renovations are going to look soooo dated in another 5-7 years, when everyone is chasing whatever the style barons and marketing experts have declared “in” has done a 180. In 2030, people will be laughing at how cheugy and clichè all of the current Brutalism/minimalist color pallets appear. It’s just become so overdone.
Contentment is a powerful thing
She sounds annoying and like someone I wouldn't invite over after such a comment.
After my grandparents died, my family moved into their house. My grandpa built and planned this house himself together with his construction firm back in the late 60s. When we moved in, my parents did renovate some rooms, like the bathroom and kitchen, but they mostly kept everything the way it was, because the interior style of the house also fit the exterior.
Yeah we bought a 1970s house and havent done anything except paint bc the house has custom cabinet built by the previous owner. I thought about painting the mid-toned cabinets so we can add more prefab cabinets. But we axed that idea because we love the warmth if the cabinets. IF We add more cabinets they will be custom built and stained (by ourselves) to match the current cabinets. Feels nice to add to a home rather than gut them.
We bought a house from a flipper. It was painted white, they put grey LVP over the 120-year-old hardwoods, terrible black doors everywhere, cheap grey carpet, and badly fitting vents. Our home was built in 1900, so it still has some character, unfortunately, a lot was lost. We are currently ripping out the LVP and restoring our hardwood floors, changing out all the lights, and fixing the shoddy electrical and plumbing mistakes. Unfortunately, it was the only home we could afford that offered what we wanted in the area we wanted to live. Luckily, the home will be beautiful once we are done, but it will take a lot of work to de-flip it.
I'm house hunting and I'm always sad to see beautiful Victorian houses stripped of character. Hardwood floors covered by cheap laminate that look extra terrible against the original trims. There was one I remember that had a corner bench and built in cabinets in the kitchen. It came back on the market within the year with those torn out as well as the change I listed before. It's so terrible
@@starofgalaxiesThat is so heartbreaking.
Yeah, that’s the main thing I don’t understand about this aesthetic.
It’s an open secret that no one likes it or wants to live in it.
So if you do this to your home for sale, you’re just guaranteeing that the new owner will HAVE to spend money and effort deflipping it.
So how is that a good thing????
If you actually follow your own taste, there’s at least a chance a real human seller will agree with you.
I guess this aesthetic is being held up by corporations just so they can make the bogus claim that they “recently renovated”????
Ugg i have the vinyl gray flooring in my kitchen, it definitely needs to be replaced in the near future because its coming loose. Im so glad the rest of the main floor i use is actually durable flooring, tile in the bathroom and bamboo flooring for the rest of it, it might be hardboard but im not sure, its probably more likely bamboo.
As an interior design student the most hilarious thing about the houses on Zillow isn't even the renovation but the fact that none of the "photos" are real they are just (poorly done) renders
omggg yes those drive me crazy! Misleading / edited photos are bad enough but yeah most are not even real anymore
When they have a natural light source from literally every direction 😂
I wondered why they looked so fake! Ick. Why not just take an actual photo?
I feel like that should be illegal, doesn't that falsely represent what's for sale?
@@emilyb.8219it's common advertisement. From food ads to fashion mags are staged and edited
I absolutely fell in love with this house I saw at an estate sale. The deceased was an artist and the detail work of the house was amazing. It was built in the 80s be designed to look like the 20s. A flipper bought the house and painted literally EVERYTHING in the house white and black. It broke my heart when I saw it relisted with the new pictures 😞
Oh no, that is so sad, definitely removed the heart of the home.
It's hurting me to see, that all beautiful houses with history and unique architecture just gets slapped with monochrome paint. I just can't imagine how they can do it and how it's "better looking". Goddammit, let's make cottarecore DND houses with wood and plants, not black and white TV from past century.
So my husband and I bought this 1910's house in the midwest, mainly because it was very cheap. Almost every feature in the house was "outdated" dark wooden floors, wodden arches in between rooms, rooms with wallpaper or wood paneling, white appliances, etc. And not having a lot of budget we just decided to lean into the "craftsman aesthetic" We mainly decorated the entire house with things we found at garage sales, estate sales, etc, again, all the furniture was pretty "outdated" but very cheap. To this day. our real state agent who is a friend of ours, shows the pictures of our house as an example of what buyers with low budget can do. We have friends who have asked us to use our living room as a set for their family, wedding, and graduation pictures. The moral of the story is, if you have an "outdated" house, own it. you'll be surprised at how great it can look if you break out of the "pristine white aesthetic"
My partner and I are replacing the pristine white and modern carpets with dark wood tones lol. Long term, we want all of our baseboards to be dark mahogany colors
Yes. I love this! Thank you for giving that house the respect that it deserves.
Love a craftsman style home!
Same, except ours is Edwardian. Love Craftsman, or pretty much anything with original vintage features. Have always hated trends. I unashamedly embrace my inner sense of style.
I love this so much! I’m 26 but I have a VA loan and will soon start looking into housing but the ones in my budget are definitely “outdated” as you say but I could definitely see this being so beautiful!
the sad grey flip aesthetic is very present in airbnb apartments. so many places remodeled with the same ikea furniture, stripping the historical vibe away and turning everything into a copypaste apartment that could be located anywhere in the world
Yessss exactly! I remember when Airbnb was new and I was a broke college student, so most of the time I was only booking one room in a house. They were so interesting and literally lived in!
So many these days are physically uncomfy and totally boring.
I will never understand the incessant drive to change physical environments from uniqueness to bland conformity. It makes me angry. What’s even the point of traveling anywhere if everywhere becomes the exact same? Different environments generate different feelings, and it’s like diversity of feeling is being purposely destroyed in favor of a boring monoculture
only a few mins in, but i think a factor in why so many people hate the gray flipped aesthetic is due to feeling increasingly alienated in our lives. the internet is less personal, we are oversaturated with similar looking homes, fashion, and people. We enjoy a house with character built into it because its not more of the same boring, impersonal, corporate slop that we get everywhere else. Preserve what little authentic personality is left in the world instead of slapping a sad impersonal veneer over it.
Alienation, you nailed it.
Alienation, you nailed it. What a depressing idea, to feel alienated in your own house!
exactly. sign of the times
I was in a new build about 10 years ago and everything was grey. It felt so weird.
Where I live and the surrounding towns, there’s luxury apartments and cookie cutter homes being built left and right, huge apartment buildings being built within a couple months, homes being finished within a couple weeks. You can just tell they’re throwing up poorly built and cheap homes and selling them for insane prices because having laminate flooring and everything black and white is considered luxurious. Point being..there’s plenty of homes being built the way flippers would. Leave the charming, old and character filled homes ALONE. Sure, take care of rotting wood or replace countertops to something more durable but for gods sake stop painting everything white and listing it for twice the price it’s worth.
My house is a 1910 Queen Anne with many original features. However, the dining room and kitchen was remodeled in the ‘60s and ‘70s. Everyone was aghast when I made it clear that I would not be removing the faux wood paneling and Mid-Century room divider. Instead I leaned into the vintage aesthetic. It has really grown on me. The room divider is beautiful with multi-colored blown glass on it when the light shines through. I also consider these changes another chapter in my home’s long history. They are simply part of the story.
Sounds so beautiful!!
When watching shows like ugliest house in America I feel a lot of the homes were just made by people to be what they liked without caring about resell bc they weren't planning to move anytime soon and I respect that.
HAHA yes I love that show. there was so much love into so many of those houses no matter how ugly lmaooo
I remember seeing a tiktok where people criticized this woman’s house and saying it would hurt the resale value. She responded basically saying “idc, this house is for me not for the hypothetical future owner”. iirc her house was fine, she just painted her walls pink and had funky decor lol
EXACTLY! If I ever buy a house I'm going to do *whatever the hell I want* with it, because if I'm *buying* a house I'm planning to *live in it* for as long as I can, not reselling it. I might resell it if I find myself in a position where I will *have* to move, but the plan A is to live in it for the rest of my life, so reselling is not something I will be thinking about.
And it pains me that this is not the mentality of *all* people buying houses, because it should be, because housing shouldn't be an investment.
@@markiflierandpliendsatthed1280Yes! Some of the houses are absolutely not to my taste, but I still love them because the love of the previous owner is so evident.
YES, I don’t understand people who buy a house as an investment. To me it should be my safe space where I’ll be for a very long time
Living with my grandparents I have helped with so many room changes. Gramma used to change the "theme" of one room every 5 or so years. The "horse" room. The "lavender" porch. Honesty it was fun.
So I like wood panelling lol, but if someone thinks "I should become a flipper" they made a video game for that. You dont have to do it irl and contribute to the already cluttered housing market.
HAHA right I'm like... play the sims or something??
@@tiffanyferg just an fyi, the video game OP is talking about is literally called House Flipper 😅
I think wood paneling is decisive because nice wood paneling (real nice wood) can look great. But we are (or at least I am) often exposed to gross particle board paneling (old cardboard) from the 70s that hasn't aged well.
@@meryl5496 Exactly! I *adore* real wood paneling (though I do agree with @tiffanyferg that I personally don't want to feel like I'm living in a cabin when I'm not). But I grew up in a house where those were my bedroom walls, and so there are positive associations there, too. But fake wood paneling? I'll paint over that stuff right quick.
flipping is immoral.
like some reddit post i saw the other week of some dude getting a STEAL of a deal on some product and selling it to a friend for profit... like really? you profit off your friends?
society is rotten.
I thought one of the appeals of buying a home was feeling less temporary. The idea of constantly thinking of the next people in my home sounds depressing.
The thing that really gets me about the "why would you paint it that color?" especially when said about WALLS of all things is people acting like you can't just.... re-paint the walls white after you move out. Or let the next owners re-paint it to whatever color they want
That kills me. It's paint. It took me a few hours to do. It's not as big a deal as people act like it is.
Here it is kind of a custom to paint the walls after leaving a long term rental. You're expected to clean up after yourself after leaving and that includes painting the walls. I think most landlords don't mind how you paint your walls as long as it is reversible.
@@prosquatter that makes me Wonder If maybe youre German. Because in Germany (where im from) you can basically do whatever you want as Long as you can restore it when you move Out. Whereas in the UK, where i live now, you need to ASK the landlord for permission. Btw, we're also Not allowed to Put Nails into the Wall or Put Up hanging cabinets. It's Literally in our tenancy Agreement. It's a Feature of renting in the UK thats driving me insane, because... I can Just Take Out the freaking nails??? Cover it Up with filler? And there you go, Wall is still intact. But based on our tenancy Agreements in the UK, youd think the House needs to be torn down If you Paint a Wall not-white
@@annabeinglazy5580 Bosnian actually, but a lot of laws here are plagiarised from Germany, lol
The before picture of those stairs was so absolutely gorgeous. I would want the house for those stairs. The after was incredibly lacking.
I work at a hardware store and any time a flipper or landlord asks for the fastest, cheapest flooring/cabinets/appliances/whatever I want to leap over my desk and skewer them with my OSHA approved safety knife.
I tried to talk someone off the ledge at Lowes who was letting their contractor talk them into that cheap cold gray faux wood flooring that was actively competing with the warm oak cabinet door in her hands. Tried to steer them towards a more compatible color in the same product, and told them that the cold gray everything everywhere color scheme from 2015 was outdated when the contractor informed her, in 2019, that it was the “latest” trend. They asked if I was a contractor and told them that I was graphic designer and that at the very least they need to consider warmer tones for the flooring for a more harmonious cohesive result, then walked away. I hope she dodged that bullet.
The infamous foam beam is so funny that I physically cannot be mad about it
Those things are a bugger to remove.
literally like how is that not a fire hazard
The thing that really gets me about the "German Schmear" flippers, their entire series they said "We promise were really gonna lean into the vintage 70s style" then proceeded to strip all authentic elements and replace it with the TACKIEST junk. They removed a full wall bookshelf with plenty of character and utility, then replaced it with one of those ✨️happy day✨️ murals youd expect to see in the corner of a coffee shop or on the shelf of a Hobby Lobby.
And that foam beam.......
Ironically enough, the sad grey home is gonna be so dated. In the future, that shiny hard grey resin floor might well be the knotty pine of our time.
It’s already dated, anyone who adds this aesthetic usually looks 5 years old automatically. Plus the rentals are worse, they pick too dark of a grey every time like prison
I'll never understand that urge to put grey on grey on white and black. The living room in our current rental flat actually has grey walls, but it works because there's a warmer wood floor. But those grey floors? Ugh.
The original warm knotty pine tongue and groove paneling in the breakfast nook in my 1959 kitchen is what gives it so much character so we kept it, but we did swap out the knotty pine cabinets for solid wood cream colored cabinets with bronze handles that age over time to a beautiful patina. We also updated the original turquoise Formica atomic pattern countertops with coffee brown granite countertops (natural product) at a time when everyone was doing white quartz (amalgamation of natural product to make a fake product). I’m so glad I did not fall for the trend of the moment of white on white on gray, unnatural materials, and demolishing walls everywhere, which I absolutely despise. My warm wood kitchen is still so charming and cozy to me even 7 years later, and people are always delighted by it when they come over for the first time, because it’s updated, but not soulless. I’m also glad I ignored people who told me to paint the original brick double sided fireplace in the kitchen or demolish it completely for an open plan kitchen, which I hate. I can’t imagine why people are so offended by walls or brick, except that HGTV has told them that they’re “wrong”. You are absolutely correct that people perceive “outdated” features in a house as a signifier of “poverty”, or that they must make every renovation appealing to future buyers and not their own personal tastes. It’s ludicrous, especially when that mindset compels people to destroy beautiful homes with charm and character.
@@Pinnfeathers the original turquoise Formica atomic pattern countertops sound amazing ngl
@@roxy_muso they were fantastic, just not in good shape, unfortunately ☹️
THANK YOU FOR THIS. Not only is my home not aesthetic, it’s a *gasp* mobile home!! The worst of the worst, socially at least. Sometimes I need to be reminded that homes are for memories, not perfection.
My parents had a mobile home after retiring - I loved it! Just enough space, no stairs and a simple lay out. Relatively inexpensive to purchase and a small or with just enough putter space. Perfect! I want one!
As someone who lives in a flat I think a mobile home is so appealing as it’s detached, I can hear my neighbours 😊
I feel like part of the "millennial grey" trend was a responce to stated trends form the 90s and early 2000s. It was trying to make things "timeless" so that we didn't have to constantly keep up with timely trends. Turns out it just became a dated trend itself, and the culture wheel keeps turning.
I could see that. Even as a small child I found some of the trends of the 90s and 2000s gaudy and too much.
But I've found the reverse of everything being grey and grey on black and white to be drab, depressing and lacking personality.
The modern trends feel like they're so afraid of having anything unique they lack any personality and are actually quite stifling.
in an attempt to be timeless, the people who made this trend failed to understand what makes something timeless in the first place, and that's a really good design being unique but beloved.
This modern trend lacks any personality and because of that, I dont think anyone is going to be nostalgic for it.
I agree with freeemberess. The black on gray on white aesthetic is a flattened and rather soulless regurgitation of mid-century modern without the verve.
The clean lines and form meets function design of MCM was a space-age era pushback against bad floor plans, mismatched maximalism, and elaborate but functionless aesthetics.
MCM had something to stand in opposition to or as an answer to. The modern version of it is merely surface. It answers no real questions and very little is asked of it. It's job is to be a nothingness rather than a somethingness.
@@fireemberessI find it calming.
@@laurad324 i can see that but i agree w the others.
I rly miss just about any design choice other than today's go-to of ultramodern minimalism and sharp edges and super blah
ok but that honey oak kitchen you showed was genuinely very good looking and reminded me of the kitchens my rich friends had growing up. Also i prefer tuscan kitchens from the 2000s to the greyscale kitchens of today. those older kitchens were warm and inviting!
To me, these houses are meant to look good on camera. Cool tones (especially cool lighting) look much better on camera than their warm counterparts. Both the home reno shows and house listings are filtered through the camera, which lends to wanting to make these houses as photogenic as possible.
yesss great point!
@@tiffanyferg i disagree with regards to house listings. you're supposed to go see the house in person, not buy it online like an amazon product sight-unseen. the photos just are supposed to give you a general idea.
@@ab8817 Buyers ideally would see a home in person, but the first way most people see a home is in photos online. Being able to look amazing in photos still grabs the attention of buyers enough to get them in the door.
@@ab8817 but they won't even catch your eye if they're not as aesthetically pleasing as the other ones.
@@ЕкатеринаАн-у3б yes that's my point exactly. then you're looking for the wrong things when buying a house - which is a contributing factor to the current housing market. too many people with whacked out misinformed HGTV-poisoned priorities.
In my town there was a flipper who bought a historical victorian house that had murals and they gutted it. The house is significant because the house was owned by a mayor from my town who did a lot of good for the town. The murals had been made by his wife. The flippers made it grey and modern. It bombed and sold for way under their asking price.
There are so many houses that deserve so much more than to be gutted of all personality for a modern take.
these houses just look so sterile...like do you WANT to live in a hospital waiting room??
sterility is for bathrooms and kitchens
and even then, the grayscale looks sad
Its crazy how many of the photos look like they were taken in black and white- hospital waiting rooms are cozier than these!
Its crazy there are some people that want to live in places that look like hotel rooms 😭😭😭
My Mum designed our house with an architect. Even though it was a new build so many people have said it looks like it's been there forever. She went for a rich, cosy colour palette and the house in a Georgian country cottage style. She asked my Dad to get a few things for our kitchen and he chose these chrome ceiling spotlights with really cold light. She walked into the room, said, "I'm not living in a morgue" and told him to change them immediately. 😂
Yes. It helps my brain relax, that’s just color palette but I dont appreciate home character being torn down 😭
Oh that staircase destruction at 4:45 truly made my heart bleed. This kind of destruction should be freaking illegal 😫 And about that kitchen choice, I've seen hospital rooms more welcoming than that white kitchen. So sterile, so cold, hard pass for me. The wood one is actually the kind I would love in my house, beautiful, warm, inviting, cosy...perfection!
Literally.
My parents recently bought a beautiful historical house, and I, sad work-at-home millenial that I am, moved with them.
But a joke me and my mum now have is how every time we have a guest or friends stay over, they tell us how we should renovate it. It has a very small kitchen, which is already tastefully modern, but everyone says how we should extend it into the next room, how we need a kitchen island, about how the largest room in the house should be the kitchen actually. It's so automatic, and everyone is so insistent that it's honestly hilarious and we just laugh. I LIKE our teeny kitchen! It's so small that other people can't comfortably stand around annoying you while you're trying to cook or make tea 😂 Decorate your own darn houses! We've only just got here, let us enjoy it!!!!
Facts. I know big open kitchens are on trend right now, but I actually don't mind (and might even prefer) small kitchens. To me, a kitchen is a work space. I don't need or want to be hanging out in it all the time.
Closed kitchen please, so I can close the door and smoke or vapor don’t go through the living room. Here I have very warm summers, so If im using the oven I can just close the door of the kitchen and the rest of the apartment is still cool.
@@Uneclipsed
Genuine question, who tf says that it's "on trend"?
It feels like every person I know hates these trends and yet there's somehow this mystical 'modern consumer' who's in love with this stuff.
It's like they only exist online or in design magazines.
I honestly feel like it's a big psyop to justify lazy work (lower costs!) by flippers and developers, while keeping prices high
I work in cabinetry and what's really crazy about the whole "just paint your cabinets!" suggestion is that refacing can cost about as much as a total remodel, depending on where you get your cabinets from. i really like the designer you shared. her suggestion of changing whats around your cabinets and flooring to fit your aesthetic was really smart
My childhood home recently has been put back on the market, after they removed the sunroom, took out all privacy hedges, removed the garage, took out the 40 plus year old peony tree, The blueberries, the cherry tree and all the built-in, the pantry and the linen closet, the original 1940’s light fixtures and painted all the brick.
And are charging twice what my family sold it for.
Update: they couldn’t sell it at the massively inflated price and unlisted it.
Took all of the things that make it a home. I'm tired of seeing these beautiful homes turn into what's essentially a large apartment 😢
It makes me especially mad when I see trees get ripped out. When she showed the Before pics from the house in Scottsdale, that was my first reaction: Oh look, they ripped out the trees. :/
@@LuthienNightwolf they even have the audacity to claim it is a ‘mature’ garden in the listing.
Horrific
Depressing
When my parents moved into their current house like 16-17 years ago, the kitchen had dark wood cabinets and brick-like tile countertops - and I LOVED it. It was so beautiful and cozy, and I could just imagine hanging up string lights under the cabinets and setting plants in the corners, and generally feeling like you're standing in some old Italian villa or something.
They ripped out the countertops to replace them with white marble, and painted the cabinets gray.
This is why I just build and renovate houses in the sims. I can curate my aesthetic and decorate a cute space without consequence! It really gets the “I need to go to ikea” urge out of my system.
That's a good idea... I've been at Ikea at least once a week for the past few months and my partner has to supervise me so I don't buy a bunch of stuff every time 😂 if it was up to me I'd always be taking home another trinket, another plushie or another plant.
@@No-ue5piI feel that 100 %
I looooove the 70 retro colored bathrooms. It has so much cool character and easily feels relaxing/homey. Also the same kind of kitchens with the lovely colored refrigerators.
"I have low standards; maybe that's just the renter in me." I've never related to something more haha.
What really gets me about these stark greige interiors is how much more cluttered they will look & feel when they’re actually lived in and full of objects
Lately, I have been watching a creator who bought a crumbling house that was once owned and built by an architect and was featured in an architectural magazine in the '60s but had fallen to disrepair, and I am so fascinated by the care and attention that they put into restoring such a beautiful property. It's a shame to see the ones that are not done with as much love.
So sad all the things they had to throw away because of the mold, though. I understand they didn't have much of a choice, but it still breaks my heart a little to see it all go.
Ahhh. Jenna Phipps.
The most unforgivable kind of flipping to me is those who seek out Victorian houses (with mostly periodic interior and furniture) and *gut* the interior and change it into all-white sterile look, so while the exterior remains untouched the interior turns into an all "modern" style now... 🤢🤢🤬🤬💀🔥
I might personally lean towards minimalism, but holy hell...anything reminiscent of concrete (and by extension brutalism) is where I draw the goddamned line 🤦🏽. Like sure, not all Victorian homes have _significant_ historical value but damn, if you want a modern house with modern interior why not buy one with modern _exterior_ as well?? There are lots of people out there who like Victorian houses who got priced out by these flippers, leave them Victorian houses alone! 🤦🏽🤦🏽💀
Give me natural woods, warm tones, close plan kitchens, and original fixtures any day. Whoever said the pastel bathroom is from the 70s knows nothing about- they were big in the 30s.
Right, and like pastel bathroom just makes programmatic sense from an architectural perspective. Here is a relaxing space, a clean space, a space to freshen, soaps and the flowers that go into perfumes are pastel. Everything about a pastel bathroom is pretty and inviting. I absolutely love my Grandparents' pastel pink bathroom.
I LOVE warm woods, especially more red than yellow. I like pink, so I wouldn't mind a pink bathroom.
I think they're mixing up the avocado bathroom with the pink.
Horrid colors in a bathroom lol
Covid lockdown taught us all that we do, very badly, need separate rooms actually.
This was a really good video topic. We moved into our “forever home” last year. I have been overwhelmed with all the “updates” it needs, and little by little I am renovating. However, I still struggle with the feeling that it doesn’t look “new and fresh”, I needed to hear this. I needed to hear that it is okay to have dark wood cabinets. It isn’t the end of the world . I have a beautiful family and a beautiful home, why does it matter if my kitchen is “outdated”? It really doesn’t, I am lucky to have safety, and to have a home at all.
Anyway, thanks.
One thing all architects told me is that NEVER use barn doors for bathrooms, because they are not private enough and you can hear EVERYTHING. Also, why do people who live in Phoenix hate trees? Why would anybody want to have a garden without trees? They cut the trees of that blue door house. That's a crime, or should be.
As an architect, I second everything you said
I've been to restaurants with barn doors for the bathrooms and it is awful!
I'm not from Arizona but have visited Tucson often and hated it because of the lack of trees and greenery. I'm sure the lack of trees is due to the climate and not being able to survive with water restrictions but surely there are some green cacti that could be added give life?? It's just brown and rock as far as the eye can see, at least in Tucson.
It's the middle of the desert, planting trees would be a waste of water
Fun fact, Phoenix is a desert. We dont hate trees, our trees just look different. We like our Saguaro and other indigenous plants, and the desert has a unique beauty. What we do hate is people thinking our space needs to look like theirs- otherwise we are the haters.
People usually like to go for particle board white furniture like those from IKEA but I'm totally a sucker for wood aesthetic and it's so easy to find second hand hardwood furniture online because the young generation doesn't want their grandparents' furniture. It is so much more durable and you can do woodworking to modify it.
I was in the incredibly privileged position to sell my first home to buy a second one last year. It was incredibly popular as it’s a cheap building in a capital city with very little housing. I made the decision I would immediately rule out landlords with hundreds of properties (if I could discover they were landlords) and investors and try to sell it to someone struggling to find their first home. I was lucky to find an amazing buyer who’s loved it as much as I did!
I hope to be able to do this with my current home! My current home isn’t my forever home or even in my forever state/ city. I hope when we do go to sell we can sell it to a family. I REFUSE to sell it to a landlord, especially a slumlord. The home was previously owned by a slumlord and is in desperate need of TLC, all because the landlord couldn’t care enough to take care of the house. I live in a TINY town with a small university and the rent is insane here. One of the biggest cities in my state is actually CHEAPER to rent a home than my small town. It’s ridiculous and insane and no one needs to be putting more money into landlords pockets when there’s so many unhoused people in my city.
It’s heartbreaking.😞💔
If I'm ever in a position to sell my baby, that's what I will do too. I'm putting in a greenhouse. I know an investor will gut the things I love.
@@dismurrart6648 exactly! I’m sure if I love it, another home owner will appreciate all of the TLC and love that went into the home.🖤 that’s all I could ever ask for 🤣🖤
@@Shart-santha the sellers told our agent they were happy it was going to a young family. That made me happy. It was their parents home so I'm taking good care of it.
@@dismurrart6648 house investors are sick people that I wish didn't exist. They aren't even people to me - they value nothing, they just destroy everything that is beautiful or good about a home.
As someone who is currently looking to buy a house, and tends to quickly dismiss anything that appears "outdated", this was a very eye-opening video! I will definitely look at things differently while I continue my search :)
If it's outdated it means no one's done a shonky renovation job on it! Harder to undo another person's mistakes.
I almost cried when I saw that horrible staircase ""make over"" 😭😭😭
Me too 😢
me too , i physically recoiled :((((
Same here, I can't believe they removed the stained glass windows!!!
It’s so bad
I can't believe they "wall-to-wall" carpeted the wood stairs, which looked to be in pristine condition, too.
my mom has had the same dishwasher in her kitchen for 30 years and i remember it breaking once? meanwhile i have had dishwasher issues in every apartment with an updated kitchen i have lived in. give me an "outdated kitchen" with old appliances any day XD
Seeing the warm wood kitchen makes me happy. It's charming, welcoming, inviting. So definitely that one!
As someone who just bought a house and isn't ready to give up the Zillow addiction, I would watch and rewatch a whole video of you having hot takes about Zillow listings
While house hunting, I learned that if a house looks like it could be from HGTV, don’t bother with it. I have seen so many flips with bad results on the exterior - I am terrified of what is underneath.
Yes, I feel that! It breaks my heart flippers don’t care and are only in it for the money. My husband and I are renovating our home, NOT flipping it. The home needs so much TLC and has been neglected over the years because it was used as a slumlord’s rental😞.
It breaks my heart because I see the potential in it. I hope my renovations can do this home justice!
A loved home is not a cheap home.🖤
Im glad im not the only person on the planet who hates grey, white, cheap materials, ikea, etc. I am currently painting my bathroom Barbie pink, the living room is green with a hot pink sofa. I love wood and character and random features. As soon as I see grey and white everywhere, I think of what I can paint and add antiques furniture to.
Preservationist here! Thank you so much for this video! The terrible lack of preservation in the interiors is very much a US problem. In other words a cultural effect of the concept of freedoms and personal privacy.
There are many pros to these cultural concepts and many cons… such as the gutting of amazing historic structures… again thank you for this video!
Honestly I wish for more historical societies going around making homes illegal to make certain changes to. I live in a historic building with huge 11 foot ceilings and big arches to match, a big bay window and super tall windows with huge trim, and was told by my realtor that I wouldn't be allowed to alter those kinds of features. And I was like, GOOD, the only real problem is that someone prior to me was apparently allowed to PAINT them which is irritating but I'm glad to know whomever I sell it to can't ruin it either. Unfortunately the bedrooms have horribly cheap particle board doors slapped on, including the closets, and the kitchen has those white shaker cabinets with black T shaped pulls. That'll be a project for me to fix.
It’s funny because the preservation of Architecture and housing is why so many Americans are impressed when they go to Europe. They see these old historic structures that are preserved and the way modern life is built into cities without sacrificing native and historic aesthetics. It’s so beautiful to see a country with its art and culture thriving where we’re constantly washing ours away for money.
Yes having old buildings is a safety concern but there’s a way to renovate without stripping all the originality.
After my mum passed I had to sell my childhood home and having these flippers come in and tell me how they were planning on tearing down my childhood bedroom wall and re-sell within 3 months absolutely killed me. They expected me to be exited about their plans as well 🙃
My parents bought a flat in 1993 and renovated it slowly. My bathroom used to have dark brown furniture and tiles and when I was around five they changed it, the kitchen a couple of years later, my mum choose some square green tiles that I adored, they swaped furniture, paints and decor slowly but over the years made it such a homey and lovely place.
When they sold it because we had to move close to my grandparents due to their health the new couple gutted it completely (we went to see the neighbours a year after and the new owners invited us in).
Everything was minimal and white. Gone were the warm oak floors, doors and trim, the green tiles and the antique built in wardrobes.
It seemed to me like they wanted a modern place so much but it didn't fit the slightly historical flat they bought
That’s so tragic. If you want modern, buy modern!
I hate this. A similar thing happened when my grandmother’s house in Massachusetts sold the last time. My mom’s best friend who still lived in the area sent her the listing. They thankfully kept the original wainscoting, but painted over all the natural wood. 😭 So sad. I was fourth generation in that house, so while it’s sad to see it turned into a shadow of itself, it does appear that there have been families living there versus someone turning it into a Scare BnB or flipping it.
I’m hoping we can keep the home I grew up in in the family, though it’s much larger than what I need. It sucks to have to let so many memories go. I’ve had to learn that it’s not the house, it’s the people there who matter.
😭😭😭 I'm sorry for your cool old home.
My last house was a rental I lived in for 11 years. It needed some structural work and maybe some updating here and there. It got sold to flippers. They painted everything white or beige (including the basement that needed to be waterproofed), got rid of the beautiful "Charleston green" exterior door, and fixed maybe one of the many structural issues. They also got rid of the functional things, like the ceiling fans and window unit. I hope the new full time owners give it the love and care it deserves. But I kind of doubt it.
I’m so sorry that must have been heartbreaking. My partner and I were lucky enough to buy a home built in the early 1800s with some of the original features intact, and we couldn’t imagine getting rid of them. Hoping to put lots of care into maintaining the integrity of the original design while also “over personalizing” from a realtor perspective
So sad
I'm listening to this while painting my newly purchased house.
It was a covid renovation that didn't sell so it's been an Airbnb for the last few years. My city is in the middle of a flip epidemic that's tearing down beautiful, character filled homes and replacing them with awful 'modern farmhouse' monstrosities. My house was built in 1925 and the inspection revealed they'd done extensive structural/functional updates and while it does have some 'typical flip' features (white kitchen) and clearly had extensive changes made to the floorplan, I'm glad so much character was maintained (original wood floors! The outside wasn't painted white!) Now that most the walls have been painted and it's not a white void it definitely looks better. I am so glad the previous owner was so desperate to sell so I could afford a nice renovation and not get stuck with the awful flips I saw in my house hunt.
I’m an interior designer and your comment about “achieving an apex of perfection” is what I try to warn clients against. My motto is “if it makes you happy, then let’s lean into it.” Screw trends and the idea of a perfect home.
We rent our home, and have been in it for 9 years. Built in 1910. Kitchen is smallish but functional. All the wood downstairs is in decent shape(although poorly stained at some time) its an old house, and looks old, which we love. My style, is mid century modern. I recently painted out kitchen pink and green. It turned out phenomenal. I still smile when i walk in it and it has been done since February. I did everything on my own. Got a pink cabinet, pink microwave and coffee pot. N mint green toaster and air fryer. I hate bland white grey blah blah blah. Its like people only want to live black and white. How boring. Life is full, live in color 😊
Hearing and seeing that warm woods are "outdated" made me laugh. I would gladly take the kitchen on the left
Right? Wood never goes out of style! It’s timeless and beautiful
Yeah it actually doesn’t look dated to me. There are drawers on the left, if I am seeing correctly
25:34 the fact they have paved over the entire front garden is another flipper special. Nice garden space is horrible because they might have to do some maintenance.
Honestly, this totally works for me because I’m big on potted gardens.
Less water waste, you don’t have to leave your beloved plants behind, and you can rearrange as you please.
And also pots are gorgeous!
This is highly dependent on where you live and if you’re in a drought prone / grass lawns are an absurdity type of place though.
Tiffany pls roast more Zillow flips that was hilarious.
5:02 let out a gutteral scream of despair at the beautifully carved 1900s staircase painted white. Too much for my heart😥
The most outrageous decoration "update" I saw on a tv show was the covering of beautiful white and blue designer tiles with white vinyl. The tiles even fit in with the decoration they chose for the house, which was blue and white. I know that was probably done just to advertise the vinyl, but it made me unnecessarily annoyed.
The kitchen with light wood and white appliances makes me feel at home, since that's how most kitchens in my country look like. Also I love warm coloured spaces.
LOOOVE that we're finally talking about this. I hate the discourse around "finding your personal style" especially as it relates to your home. Like, it's your home. If you like something, buy it. It doesn't matter if everyone else hates it, it doesn't even matter if it "goes with the rest of your house" - if you like it, you want it, it makes you happy and you can afford it, get it.
Also, when I was renting a house I did the whole 'peel and stick tile, wallpaper, etc' some are worth it, but most are not! And your landlord will NOT appreciate it 😭
that metaphor was SO spot on omg
maybe this is me outing myself as a millennial, but i do love the grey floors when they're balanced with your furniture and decorations. we have a very grey/white house but with black furniture, green accent walls, and lots of plants and wall decor, it feels much more homey and aesthetic! i think the "clean and new" vibe is what so many flippers are going for, but they overshoot into sterile and unwelcoming because they're afraid to inject any type of personality into the spaces. if you're into moody and dark aesthetics, though, they can be a good foundation!
I like your point about cheap materials being in vogue. Expensive interiors often feature wood paneling and tile floors which are all the things flippers are covering up.
My parents built our home in the mid-2000s and I remember feeling weird that it was so "old fashioned" when it was brand new. But my parents didn't care about trends and just wanted a timeless ranch-style home, and today I think it's incredible! Real wood, warm tones, and perfect for growing up
We bought a flat 3 years ago and don't love the kitchen, but it's functional, and we needed to change up the bathroom for my disability. We ended up changing the knobs on the cupboards and drawers, and were thinking of painting the cabinets, but after we put the knobs on, they gave such a different vibe we actually left it there. You don't need to change everything, and while we'll be doing something very different when we have the budget, that small change was enough for us in the meantime
I was just talking with someone about how the ‘white house with black trim and wooden/black porch beams’ is popular right now because it’s a sign of wealth. You have to pay to get the house painted and then regularly cleaned to keep it that fresh white or polished black. You usually see it with a professionally done lawn (another cost). This bland exterior is a show of wealth to the neighbors despite its complete and utter lack of curb appeal or blending in with a neighborhood.
One thing nobody talks about: I get sooo many hand me downs from my grey/black and white decorating mother so i have to buy things with color to balance it out. Like thank you for this grey basket from tj maxx, i must fill it with colorful cat toys
My partner and I just got a rental, my mother in law is overjoyed and wants to give us all her old furniture. I am incredibly grateful because it is good quality and we can't afford to furnish an entire house. But she loves a sleek, black/brown/grey/beige, almost corporate aesthetic. I am a colour and texture fiend. Never mind. I will pull a Tim Gunn and MAKE IT WORK
Well on the bright side: grey goes with every colour and looks different next to different colours! ,said my 6th grade art teacher … I wonder if that kind of thought is why people make everything grey?
It's one thing nobody talks about because it's not a common problem. The majority of people don't receive greyscale home decor from their relatives.
I love outdated houses especially if they are in good conditions. Especially if it belonged to someone who was a fan of antiquing. I love wood panels, I love pink bathrooms, I love painted or colorful tiles. Just give me all of it! I have a soul of a grandma I know...
I also LOVE the warm wood cabinets! My mom has them in her house and wants to change them because they're "dated." I keep telling her to just wait another 5-10 years and that style will be back on trend!
Just bought a house and I simply re-stained my cabinets - cost effective and, in my opinion, beautiful. I just know warm woods are going to be back in style in the next few years and these all white kitchens will look dated.
I'm thankful for my apartment, which was built in the 70s, and while my landlord has changed some things, many others are truly beautiful. The cherry wood cabinets and beautiful granite countertops were one of the things I was most excited about. That said, I do also like a lot of the simplicity of the current trends - I prefer a clean, unfussy environment so I don't feel stressed by too much visual clutter. My walls are a dove grey, however I love that color. I have mostly modern-looking white furniture, but I like to think that I let my décor pieces do most of the talking. I have lots of vintage bird art, Murano art glass, and I've recently started a collection of Japanese chokin plates.
Ooo this is going to be a good one. I worked at a paint store for a couple years. Lots of house flippers, lots of pretty wood getting painted over.
12:25 I love love LOVE this style of 50s/60s kitchen cabinetry. Finding this still intact would actually be a huge plus for me. It really bums me out to know that survived 60+ years only to be ripped out everywhere now to create these artificial “modern” grey monstrosities that make no sense with the house’s age or the rest of its design
7:28 i really needed to hear that. ive been struggling a lot lately because everyone on social media is like "whats you're aesthetic??" with like 4 options and everyone seems to have an answer but i just....dont! im learning to be ok with it, and i know thats not fully the point of the video but THANK YOU
My aesthetic is me and all its complexities and idiosyncrasies
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@@Itsgay2read love that for you omg
My apartment is full of these greys - luckily I have lots of my grandparent’s furniture to give the place some personality - my favourite thing is that nothing matches perfectly but it works
My first house was built in 1946. I loved it so much. We changed the cabinet doors in the kitchen but kept the original cabinet boxes. We changed the faux marble laminate countertops to honed black granite. But my very favorite thing we did was take up the linoleum floors in the kitchen. My contractor just wanted me to tile over it, but I had a feeling there were original hardwoods under the linoleum. And I was right! I loved that little old house so much. Sometimes I wish I still lived there. Even if there was only one full bathroom.
Multiple bathrooms are useful if you have a family, but it's not as much of a necessity as some US homes with more bathrooms than bedrooms would make you believe.
i just gotta say I love white appliances. I enjoy not having fingerprints or worry about my dog pressing his nose against it as nothing shows up. My dad used to yell at us growing up so much for leaving fingerprints on the fridge and we had to open the fridge a certain way as to not leave marks so much unnecessary stress.
I love the warm wood kitchen! I had the great opportunity to have the budget to renovate our kitchen a few years ago. I skipped the all white and gray as it looked so common and overdone. I got a lovely sandalwood color all wood stained cabinet design that will last for decades. If you are the homeowner who plans to live there long term, you will care to put in the quality upgrades. The house flippers only put in “just good enough” features and appliances to get the sale.
I used to live in a high rise “corporate” apartment complex, complete with ugly grey everything. Now that we own a townhome, it’s sooo cozy. I’ve decorated every inch of it to look like a Ghibli film haha
As someone who bought a house with white cabinets, they show EVERYTHING. Every little speck and smudge from normal kitchen use. Such a pain to clean. White appliances are similar. Give me those warm woods any day.
Yeah, I've had white cabinets for 16 years and on the one hand the fact that it shows everything probably means I have cleaned the cabinets more than I would have otherwise. But I also feel like they look dirty the day after I spent hours deep cleaning them since even a little bit of dust becomes a grey line on the bottom of the panel of the door.
One of the worst side effects of the current housing trends is the fact it's made from horrible products - way higher amounts of plastic etc which means we're just living in a more toxic environment that is supposed to be our HOME.
Another weird trend I've seen in houses for sale recently is the use of 3D assets to "fill out" a space. So there will be a flower put or a bed or a sectional sofa in the listing that was placed like one of those "decorator apps," because it makes the place look nicer than it would empty or with your own furniture in it, and it's cheaper than hiring a designer or renting "show pieces" to fill out the space.
Yes, it's so cheap, also I see it a lot in rental listings, like NO, SHOW ME THE SPACE not an out-of scale clipart off-angle bedspread in trendy print!
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I get it for an apartment or condo since they usually have obvious floor plan layouts and are similar to each other. Most don't want to use their personal belongings for the photos. But for a house, actually pay for a home stager. Each home and picture angle is different and those apps DON'T proportion the assets properly.
13:49 my parents house growing up (and still to this day) has different colored tile in every bathroom: pink, yellow, blue, and I love them! it was always easy to differentiate like when my mom would ask me to clean “the yellow bathroom” lol
A friend of mine moved into an early 2000s house with the warm oak kitchen and instead of painting just adding new black hardware brought it more into line with her style.
I wrote the above part of my comment before the part of the video with the toning down of the warm kitchen to realize my friend also did this by painting the walls cool colours too.
Between the warm wood kitchen and the white one…I’d pick the white one because I could immediately paint it without feeling guilty about covering up the lovely wood!
(We just bought a house that was painted Sad Grey with a white kitchen, and immediately painted the whole place in multiple colors-the kitchen is now green.)
I actually think part of the reason we are disgusted by outdated features is because of how we view old people. The pink and green 50s tile? People will say "ugh, that looks like my grandma's bathroom." Not that the poverty explanation is wrong, esp for like the Tuscan kitchen, which isn't that long ago (honestly, the the poverty and ageism ideas are probably related since retirees are typically on a fixed income)
I agree on most points in this video though I think it’s good to be cautious as well to not lean to far in the other direction and say that modern looking or gray and white neutrals are automatically ugly or have “no character” it’s about balance.
Seeing these atrocious, gray, lifeless homes makes me so grateful for the dated, beautiful, lived-in homes I grew up in. I was surrounded by a lot of un-trendy, 60s-90s aesthetics at my mom's and grandparents', and it has totally informed my taste, to my benefit. I love the character and uniqueness of past styles, and the nostalgia is also so cozy.
My childhood home was an 80’s build, for most of my childhood it wasn’t the most stylish trendy house but it was cozy and functional, we didn’t end up renovating it until 2015 after we had lived there for YEARS, it’s so important to live somewhere first to figure out what u wanna change
What micarah tewera did with her victorian homes sitting room was *chefs kiss* she really brought out the character of the house
We recently sold our house for sale by owner, prior to this we had several meets with realtors who basically told us no one would buy our house unless we re painted everything white. We knew some painting here and there made sense, but truly it sounded like an insult to the wood work. Fast forward to us being able to sell our house on our own, over asking and within 2 weeks. It made me feel better knowing the right person will come along and love our house just like we did and not the landlord special.
from the perspective of somebody who needs a kitchen renovation but can't afford it because our cabinets are actually unusable and it'll be like $15,000 for fixed ones... these people take what they have so forgranted it makes me sick to my stomach for real. like we can't even afford to get plastic counter tops and the most basic cabinets but people are disgusted by marble counters and pristine cabinets
Yes! The amount of obscene waste and destruction I see in these renovations is disgusting. Like, why would you sledgehammer a perfectly good countertop? Just uninstall it! Send it to a salvage store, someone will want it! What a sad, shameful waste of a precious material mined from the earth that could last hundreds of years. It's totally gross and maddening to me.
That entitled attitude is so obnoxious especially when it’s driven by the perception that having “old things” in your home means that you’re “poor” and then replacing every bit of charm and character with the cheapest ugliest fake gray and white materials from the DIY flipper section at a big box hardware store.
@@Kira_MartelHGTV has done a grave disservice to the development of personal taste, style, and especially common sense. My husband and I did our own demo of our 1959 kitchen and used screwdrivers, cordless drills, and a SawzAll to remove the kitchen cabinets and countertops. Not once was a sledgehammer even necessary.
@@Pinnfeathers I read an article recently that talked about HGTV's move to demo-heavy remodeling shows compared to their earlier lineup which was more aimed at working with what you had (Design on a Dime, etc.). It said that the network was trying to capture a more male audience, and that destructive demolition with smashing and breaking of walls, countertops, cabinets, etc. was more appealing to those male viewers.
@@Kira_Martel obviously they’re appealing to male viewers who have no idea how to use the correct tool for a specific task. My husband is an avid successful DIYer, gentleman farmer, mechanic, etc. and he’s always the first to call out these cosplaying demolition nuts with pointless sledgehammers on home “improvement”shows. The only one he will watch now is This Old House since the people on that show actually know what they’re doing.
I don’t always hate white walls; they can really draw light into a room that would be quite dark otherwise. However, I do not want everything else in the room to be white. I need COLOR.
Omg that historic house at 4:45 cannot be real. Is this not protected as historic property?? That renovation is truly sad.
I noticed that I really do not like the blank white/grey modern style and rather have som warm wood tones etc. Its just so much more cozy than those glass/stone black and white cubes. This always reminds me of cold workspaces.
I like the white/grey modern style, but not when it's done cheaply, AND ALSO when it includes texture!! I personally like the glass, but I also love stone, some wood tones, brick/german smear, plaster, concrete... I know a lot of people think that stuff is cold anyway, but it can be warmed up so much with other things like art, plants, rugs, and then the furnishings too. I think what I like about the modern style is the simplicity, because while a lot of people talk about needing a house that looks lived in via clutter and lots of belongings, that kind of thing makes my skin crawl with anxiety. I'm not a minimalist, but growing up in households where there was just stuff everywhere was so overwhelming!
Unpopular opinion, that dark wood paneling is GORGEOUS!! I love cook toned dark woods SO MUCH
This is exactly what is going on in my little gentrification town. The old ranch houses with brick getting painted white and black trim. Also an entire new neighborhood looks like all these grey shades of ticky tacky boxes. Looked into what they looked like in the inside grey, white, grey and the smallest kitchen in an open floor plan. Smaller than an apartment. Wild. Also the start at 275,000 3 bed two bath one level 1400 sq feet. Insane
The older neighbourhoods in my city are being ruined by these infill builds ugh. I hate visiting these neighbourhoods and enjoying the lovely architecture only to be jumpscared by the weirdest eyesore of a modern build. Bonus points if the land was subdivided and now there's two skinny houses instead of just building one normal sized house. I do like a lot of design/aesthetic elements of modern architecture, but the way that it's used, especially when it comes to gentrification or used as infill, makes me so mad.
Honestly I was pretty 50/50 split on the list of outdated rooms you showed which gives me comfort that actually I just know what I like and don’t like in a space. None of the rooms were 100% to my taste but most of them looked liveable (except the carpeted bathroom because I agree that has to go, that seems like a damp issue waiting to happen) and some rooms deffo had features I would keep or could think of ways to tweak to suit my personal taste. And if I was choosing between wood cabinet kitchen and all white kitchen I’d choose the wood!
With the “future resale value thing”, I remember being a kid and my mom having parts of our house painted beige. When I asked her why she chose that color (that I made comments about being depressing) she mentioned that it would be good for when they sell it. At the time my parents were planning on staying there until I graduated high school (and years later now they’re still living there), so I was confused. I said between that time she’d probably paint it again anyway just to have a change and even still it was years and years later so it shouldn’t matter for now.
As a matter of fact, she has since had most of what was painted some shade of beige painted another color. I could understand making potential larger or more expensive changes further in advance for potential future buyers, but for something as easy as painting (that my dad, who used to be a home painter, could get done fairly quickly) I didn’t and still don’t understand why she felt like doing that more than a decade before she was planning on selling
Painting is a lot of effort though when you have to move & cover everything