Hoskin Sotutu shat all over Sititi twice at Eden Park. Riccitelli shits all over Bell. Darry should be straight in. Three locks is absolutely dumb. Especially when Tuipulotu is injury-prone.
You imagine for the first test Razor will want to start his most experienced players and keep a simple game plan if he wants to win. I'm English so I haven't watched super rugby but he seems like a fairly grounded guy, he will take this test seriously. It's a tough first game
And so many up north keeping spouting how the All Blacks have lost it and are shit. That sounds like arrogance to me. These guys have a better take on the game than most people on the internet. It's not arrogance that they believe the English will play a certain way. They could be wrong and I'm sure they'd admit that if it turned out so. People just need to chill and enjoy the show.
@@DemocFan i'm a saffa and used to enjoy the breakdown show. Just can't stand Jeff's whinging, Kirwan's idiotic comments and the annoying Kirsty anymore. Love Mills though. I don't watch their videos anymore but come here now and then to post a comment, hoping someone at Sky will terminate their contracts and find someone that provides insightful and unbias opinions as opposed to the drevel the audience need to put up with. They can learn a thing or two from Supersport 😉
Well said yhats exactly how i feel, you tubers like Tim at eggchasers are much more worthy of the $s going to tyese guys, hes in SA at the moment, love his channel
Of course they can and will have home advantage. That said, England have a decent, young, energetic team who won't be afraid and also some more experienced elder statesmen that have had success against the ABs. Can't wait!
Razor's performance at Super Rugby has shown us that he took losers and newbies and second-string players, and transformed them into serial super rugby winners. He evem did this while he was with the Canterbury NPC team. It's time to trust him when he says he has a particular style he wants to play, and that was the same thing he employed in the past, and now he gets to lift that with the players across the country to choose from. New Zealand's style has been copied and countered effectively in the last five to eight years, and it's time to change the style - i feel it will be ferocious, attacking and intense play that is backed by excellent defence and counter-attacking. I understand that the discussions here have made assumptions based on the last few years, especially under Foster BUT Give Razor a chance. The media have been going on about how wrong Razor got it by dropping Hoskins Sotutu, and its time to let Razor coach and journalist type on their keyboard.
I laugh that us punters and media question the coach. I think he has a vast knowledge and experience in the game and as a Aussie I’m amazed how critical kiwis are of their squads. It’s probably because you could pick two evenly matched squads with the depth of talent you have in your country. Kiwis will be fine
I remember the late Sione Lauaki being a tremendous threat at Super Rugby level, but it never translated to the international level. Hoskins like Lauaki is an asset on attack but goes missing on defense and often shirks the heavy duty tasks required of an international eight.
Id expect NZ to win 2-0 with the 1st trst being within 7/10 points. No idea why kirwin thinks Eng will kick predominately. With smith at 10, furbank at furbank 15 that wont be the approach. Look out for the exeter wing, hes very good.
As an England fan I applaud the 3 lock selection....but this is not 7's. Engine room stuff. This show needs new blood..in my humble but accurate opinion.
Englands best shot is the first test, the blacks ability to execute a new game plan and to gel with one another is gonna take a bit of time. So we'll probably see a tight game up front for the large part regardless of weather.
@@phillipsugwasPray all you like I aint God so get off your knees, and if you expect to see no changes with the new coaching staff I cant help you bud ..😇
Unfortunately I do not see plummer winning a world cup with the All Blacks at flyhalf. Not saying he is not worthy of an opportunity. Every word cup winning team had a word class flyhalf, the All Blacks does not have one at the moment, this is what worries me.
if you go onto my two cents rugby he has the stats of sotutu and it isnt as impressive as the others. Sititi is a star. Well picked. average 70 m a game and 94% tackle rate
@@1Tim1.15they don't need him to score tries it's the ABs they score tries across the team. They need him to do his job on and off the ball and be a good team player which hes obviously shown not enough to pick
@@Edgycoo He played more games then Sititi that's why his tackling stats are like that. look, If McKenzie has played 10 games with 90% success rate in conversions, and Jodie Barret plays 1 game (kicks only 2 conversions) and has a 100% success rate... You know that the stats don't fully reflect everything. even though one is at 90% and the other at 100%. If we're picking purely on stats, then Blackadder should be dropped.
I’m starting to take Wilson’s twit comments about kicking blah blah blah as a compliment. Maybe NZ just doesn’t have it. Too one dimensional. All they do is run? Average defence compared to England France and Ireland? Not tall and strong compared to many others? At least they have the IRB on their side moving the goalposts yet again
@@camwells9726disjointed gives Eng 40 minutes to be competitive and then NZ smashes them. They only managed 50 points against a Japan side that had players that have never played a professional game before. Useless
I think a better question is whether England can win one of the two tests matches. Will Scott be fixated on winning? Winning is in the DNA of the AB’s. Like Bok supporters and players the AB’s hate loosing. The difference between the AB’s and others teams is that AB supporters and players feel entitled to win.🥇
@@JohanThiart of course, it’s true! Just read some of the many arrogant posts from Bokke fans on YT, RugbyPass. Instagram, etc etc. They weren’t always this bad, though. I remember after the ‘95 final at Ellis Park they were a lot less wank than they are these days.
Strange narrative that I've seen a few mention this, wonder if the Kiwi's saying this are aware that he'd be probably 4/5th choice for England at 8. Earl, Barbeary, Mercer, Willis, Fisilau, Dombrant TwoCentsRugby breakdown is exceptional, and as great as his attack is his all round game is not enough. If it was all just about attack Zach Mercer would be starting for England. Can completely see why he's not being selected, makes much more sense to have a player who can be utilized across the back row because no one is getting any minuets over Ardie who's been resting in a retirement league this year and will be fresh and ready to battle against arguably the 2nd best 8 in the world in international rugby over the last year.
@@Johnny-cf3jp no doubt at all! but he'd just be told the same thing in England that im guessing he has just been told... you don't carry enough, you don't offer enough in defence, you don't cover enough ground, you are not a lineout option. he's Alfie Barbeary in 3/4 years time. Power isn't enough, you have to have it all like Earl and Ardie
It's all pretty easy really . . . . here's the winning squad to play England in the first AB's test of 2024: 1. Tamati Williams 2. Cody Taylor 3. Pasilio Tosi 4. Patrick Tuipuloyu 5. Scott Barrett 6. Samipeni Finau 7. Dalton Papalii 8. Luke Jacobson 9. Christie Finlay 10. Damian McKenzie 11. Caleb Clarke 12. Jordie Barrett 13. Reiko Ioane 14. Mark Telea 15. Stephen Perofeta 16. Asafo Aumua 17. Ethan de Groot 18. Tyrell Lomax 19. Tupou Va'ii 20. Ardie Savea 21. TJ Perenara 22. Beauden Barrett 23. Anton Lienart-Brown Let's just get the game started! Roll out the big boys, finish with the guns, game on. If you have Razor & Co's email, please forward, and you're welcome.
you're dreaming if you think ardie savea(best player in the world last year) isn't starting. Beauden and TJ most likely starting as well with beauty at 15. De Groot and lomax will almost surely start, they were impressive at the world cup
The Irish aren't far behind with 4(?) kiwis in their squad.... Tuilagi, Tuipulotu, Fuletou, are hardly good olde British family names, so what's your point?
😂😂😂😂only now you know that.. the island of newzealand people never won anything mate without poaching the island born players 2000+ miles away.just look at kiwi ferns mate how bad are they kid.😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@michaelmoynihan9591 that’s why all blacks dominance has existed for 100+ years aye genius. Long before the islanders were brought in during the labour shortage in nz. The islanders are largely 3-4 generation n.Zers today
Roll away rule,is the worst rule now. 70% panelized,can not roll,or wiggle them out. More time should be allowed to clear them.! If they do not interfere with play,the ref should allowed play to continue.!! Most players, are held down on purpose.!!
If Robertson and his squad struggle to win or perform, or even lose, will the NZ public apply the same ruthless pressure that was given to Foster? Kiwis cant handle losing. Will they call for instant changes, sackings, heads to roll? Or is Robertson given more leeway?
@@Karma-qt4ji What is his point exactly? NZ fans criticizing Ian Foster is no different to SA fans criticizing Alistair Coetzee or Australian fans criticizing Eddie Jones..thats what happens when you fall short of fans expectations right? These guys get paid the big bucks gotta expect some heat to deliver. Old Scruff just has sand in his undies about NZ & wants to peddle his narrative.
@@Karma-qt4ji Well people are different aren't they mate? Some fans will expect Razor to win everything while others wont..personally I think the days of any team beating everyone are likely gone for good with 4 or 5 teams capable of beating each other on the day as it stands.
JK thinking see stile of rugby razor building up? After first call of players ... JK u know a new style of playing its not made in weeks and over some test matches. A team 90% of great players and refilled with young to play consistently its not made in weeks.
NZ rugby like pacifican rugby its most respectful and power rugby.... Sadly world rugby thinking must getting theater clean like fifa? If u know fijian, samoan or kiwis - boks rugby.. they playing hard but fair. Play your rugby inside will of world rugby directing... then rugby uniin mostly its european money ruled? Boks was addapt word ruby direction best last decade. Sadly but trues! why pacifican still get punished mutch more then white european players? White european thinking ruling all and be perfect?
04:20..... find a different style of rugby.....? You complain because the Boks are playing a different style...... You complain because the Boks are not playing your style...... Do you sometimes hear yourself when you speak?
AB strategic and coaching must see, accept what world rugby for an game want! Then build a team what world rugby strategy are to beat another with greatness, different but in they strategically referred games? If world rugby want less kicks, scrums or what.. then AB must build something overrunning or evade this rules. Boks was addapting world rugby rules at world cups perfectly last two rounds! Winning world cup its accept they ruling and finding ways to overcome difgernt ways to winning your way! If world rugby want less kicking game finding ways with kicking at rigjt time and doing what bringing winning? Every world cup all know what referees watching most. AB must find innovation game in world rugby interesting but differently. Playing best rugby like pacifican its sadly punished at world cup if world rugby want another game!
Huge respect for Roger his heart was 💯 in it but as talented as he is the super and national side was always going to be nigh impossible to crack so I don't knock him for his decision to return to league good luck to him
And what happens if the All Blacks lose? Or at least struggle? Will you start blaming the coach, ref, players, and apply the same horrid treatment that was towards Foster?
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 Foster was a pretender,given a job well beyond his capabilities.He was put in because of cronyism,not ability. And the public knew,and resented it, All the grief he got,he bought on himself.Thank God,that plank is gone.
SA won both by 1 pt.... we should have won also, missed a couple of fairly regular kicks of the tee... we did dot down twice, one was ripped away by poor officiating, so I'm not sure the Poms got closer than we did...
@@fidget2020 As if to illustrate a point I made to you in another thread.... The OP is claiming a bs penalty to SA for a prop going down on a knee in the scrum after repeated resets - the scrum was not straight later in the piece but that was the first offence and got penalised correctly. You were penalised twice for that in the opener against France, we (Boks) were penalised for it in the Scotland game and Ireland game, and England scored their winning points in the bronze playoff when the Argentina prop did that. Why is the SA one the only one we are talking about? It pains me to even contemplate why you think a try should have been allowed after Ardie clearly lost the ball forward and it hit de Groot / Retallick. Secondly, that rumour mill I was talking about... Stuff decided to publish a "I heard it from a guy.." and that's all you need to cry foul because of "multiple phases" having passed? The ignorance of rugby laws, even from pundits and former players like JK and Goldie, who believe that a tackle and clean out constitutes a phase, is what has caused this uproar. A phase is clearly defined in the law book and a tackle and clean out does not qualify. In the context of that passage of play, you would need rucks to be formed and that simply did not happen. There was no reason NOT to overturn the try, it was well within the protocols, so no, "poor officiating" did not overturn the try where you knocked the ball on. The try was overturned because of an All Blacks' error, you were given a penalty for the incident, from where you ultimately scored your one and only try.
yes they beat them in the build up to the World Cup final so they can beat them again with home ground advantage thats for sure .......im picking 10.5 points or more .
World rugby under european controll was last decades punish pacifican island very pervert! Fiji samoan and tonga playing respectfully and great rugby but was punished so mutch like AB with red card in final!
I think Hoskin doesn't deserve in a spot in the squad against England. Scoring 12 tries in a Super Rugby season doesn't mean anything if you get off the ground slowly and you're lazy in defense. Maybe change the inscription to "Most Lazy" or "Learn to play both sides of the ball"
@@markrutherford6010 What's that got to do with it? Unless you're referring to Riccitelli, who won't make it to the World Cup in 2027, but George Bell will, and who was in the wider squad leading to the RWC last year. Is that your point? And lets be honest here. Neither Bell or Riccitelli make the squad if Taukei'aho is fit.
@@subhuman119 Riccitelli definitely is better player than Bell.He was outstanding for the Blues. What heck has Bell done with that losing team from down south.
@@markrutherford6010 as previously mentioned with Taukeiaho being out, Razor n co. are choosing to opt for the chance to develop for the future seeing as Bell is only 22 and Ricitelli near 30. It's not a knock on Ricky's form or ability just an eye to the future
Would love to have seen him picked but his chances would have suffered due to some dubious defensive lapses this season. This coming from a Chiefs supporter
As usual this group always spend more time talking about the backs! Need to drop one of these “backs” and get an articulate forward to talk about the Foundation of Rugby! It all starts UP FRONT!
Shooter seems to have been carrying injuries and niggles all season. Shame but he can’t really be selected on last years form. He’s not been there this season
England will probably win the first test, England have phenomenal loose forwards and Marcus Smith has that X factor that ABs are missing without Muanga
He wants to play a Crufaders type game and they got smashed this year 😂 They should be building around a proven winning style and team and that's the Blues
Stop talking our your ass lol Crusaders under Razor’s tutelage was unstoppable. Blue’s have won their first title in how long? I’m not even a Saders fan or AB’s but you can’t be serious lol
Why kiwis not talking more about island rugby? AB and kiwis are strong also about manu same, Fijian and tongan rugby! 🙏 playing more test matches with fiji, Samoa and tonga. Be strong united down under🙏 Southern rugby must be so great thats european begging playing against southern... why boks thinking alone profits in europe helping them? After years boks oriented only to europe showing they loosing they leading evolution in rugby?
And you wonder why Kirwin couldn't coach a winning side ?
He’s no coach or selector he failed when he was over talk himself
Kirwan is a flog
Jk Is a Bit of a Smart Ass 😂
Hoskin Sotutu shat all over Sititi twice at Eden Park. Riccitelli shits all over Bell. Darry should be straight in. Three locks is absolutely dumb. Especially when Tuipulotu is injury-prone.
@@petelosuaniu Sotutu doesn’t run it hard enough for an 8. Very skillful player tho.
You imagine for the first test Razor will want to start his most experienced players and keep a simple game plan if he wants to win. I'm English so I haven't watched super rugby but he seems like a fairly grounded guy, he will take this test seriously. It's a tough first game
Perplexing that all three keep talking about how much they expect England to kick. Guessing the last England game they watched was the WC SF.
Shows quite a lot of ignorance really. Oh this is England, this is how they play... OK!
@@danbleakman874we boks have heard that before. Arrogantly they think they own the running balll. Shame shame
Yeah very ignorant. Although they did kick for like 200 years before that so..
Yeah stereotypes
And so many up north keeping spouting how the All Blacks have lost it and are shit. That sounds like arrogance to me. These guys have a better take on the game than most people on the internet. It's not arrogance that they believe the English will play a certain way. They could be wrong and I'm sure they'd admit that if it turned out so. People just need to chill and enjoy the show.
As an England fan it’s a shame Razor won’t be as poorly informed as Goldie, Mils and JK about how England play. The breakdown is breaking down.
It's always like this 😂😂😂
JK has zero clue about the north, he can’t even pronounce DuPont’s name. Mils doesn’t really either, which is weird cause he played up there.
The english press is the same about the ABs thats why they are fantasizing about a series draw bless them.
@@DemocFan i'm a saffa and used to enjoy the breakdown show. Just can't stand Jeff's whinging, Kirwan's idiotic comments and the annoying Kirsty anymore. Love Mills though. I don't watch their videos anymore but come here now and then to post a comment, hoping someone at Sky will terminate their contracts and find someone that provides insightful and unbias opinions as opposed to the drevel the audience need to put up with. They can learn a thing or two from Supersport 😉
Well said yhats exactly how i feel, you tubers like Tim at eggchasers are much more worthy of the $s going to tyese guys, hes in SA at the moment, love his channel
Of course they can and will have home advantage. That said, England have a decent, young, energetic team who won't be afraid and also some more experienced elder statesmen that have had success against the ABs. Can't wait!
Razor's performance at Super Rugby has shown us that he took losers and newbies and second-string players, and transformed them into serial super rugby winners. He evem did this while he was with the Canterbury NPC team. It's time to trust him when he says he has a particular style he wants to play, and that was the same thing he employed in the past, and now he gets to lift that with the players across the country to choose from. New Zealand's style has been copied and countered effectively in the last five to eight years, and it's time to change the style - i feel it will be ferocious, attacking and intense play that is backed by excellent defence and counter-attacking. I understand that the discussions here have made assumptions based on the last few years, especially under Foster BUT Give Razor a chance. The media have been going on about how wrong Razor got it by dropping Hoskins Sotutu, and its time to let Razor coach and journalist type on their keyboard.
I laugh that us punters and media question the coach. I think he has a vast knowledge and experience in the game and as a Aussie I’m amazed how critical kiwis are of their squads. It’s probably because you could pick two evenly matched squads with the depth of talent you have in your country. Kiwis will be fine
S a South African he ,he has made excellent choices …especially in the back line,in the midfield
Bok-Fan. New zealand grt coach & grt capt looking 4ward to playing u guy's here in Cape Town
Im eager to see how Barrett is as a captain personally would’ve like to see savea but I guess time will tell
The coaches talk about his knowledge and intelligence for the game
As a coach you have to back what you feel is right
Savea pretty much Captained the All Blacks at the RWC taking them to the final. What more does a brother have to do.
@@codie2035 fozzie would have picked savea ,
Razor was always going to pick Barrett ,
Which scenario do you want ?
I remember the late Sione Lauaki being a tremendous threat at Super Rugby level, but it never translated to the international level. Hoskins like Lauaki is an asset on attack but goes missing on defense and often shirks the heavy duty tasks required of an international eight.
Don't doubt Razor.
I clicked on this by mistake. Then realized watching it would mean enduring impartiality
😂😂😂
strange eh - a kiwi rugby show for kiwis.....who would have thought
@nzfreeski ikr 🤦🏾🤷🏾♂️ not the sharpest tool in the shed😂😂
@@hellsbells24 hahah exactly - does he want us to only speak about the Boks?
I want to see a 1000kg pack and Using one lock each from highlanders and hurricanes we can get a pack weight of 1004kg
Yeah I was thinking that the pack seems light and lacks some bulk to it
@@MeiA-h9rTuipulotu ? Tosi and Williams are 140kg + props
At least our props will be Massive and more importantly skillful - Williams and Tosi both ex number 8s 140+kg 6’5
Of course they can. Bok fan here.
Scott will lead them onto the field but will he be there at the end due to suspension or injury
ngl yellow card magnet
Where does JK get his excitement from about props who "can handle the ball and step"? For goodness sake.
Has he watched any rugby recently?
I think razor is brilliant coach. AB's should beat the roses for sure. From Chertahs fan
Cheetahs
Sotiti huge talent.
Tossi needed to counter act Englands big forwards.
Id expect NZ to win 2-0 with the 1st trst being within 7/10 points. No idea why kirwin thinks Eng will kick predominately. With smith at 10, furbank at furbank 15 that wont be the approach. Look out for the exeter wing, hes very good.
Absolutely 😃 for sure. Never have we put out a bad side. We got the players and the coach so let them play.
As an England fan I applaud the 3 lock selection....but this is not 7's. Engine room stuff.
This show needs new blood..in my humble but accurate opinion.
Our scrum is going to be awesome.All our props are amazing.
We going scrum England off the park.
Englands best shot is the first test, the blacks ability to execute a new game plan and to gel with one another is gonna take a bit of time. So we'll probably see a tight game up front for the large part regardless of weather.
It's at Forsyth Barr first up so there is no "weather".
Agreed 100%
@@fidget2020 So true, mate
And what pray tell is " the new game plan"🤫?
@@phillipsugwasPray all you like I aint God so get off your knees, and if you expect to see no changes with the new coaching staff I cant help you bud ..😇
Three locks is a head scratcher. We really need to get some new talent in the mix because one injury could really throw a wrench in the works
Do as ye always do.😂😂😂 poach mate ? Poach kid😂😂😂😂😂..or are the island born players staying at home now.😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@michaelmoynihan9591
Not many international pacifica lock to poach there mate
@@thomaswebby2 ye because ye can only go to the island,s so many times😂😂😂😂
@@michaelmoynihan9591 we're going to poach a Dutch lock, but he isn't eligible yet.😂
@@barneyboy2008 thought he was german😂😂😂😂
" . . . pulled a hamstring doing a 40 minute sprint . . ." Is there a blooper reel of these boys on the net somewhere?
maybe he meant 40 meter?
I really don't understand how Plummer did not get a go at it.
You just have to look who's in there keeping him out and it's mckenzie,there's no way plummers better than him
I agree, but I suppose it’s all related to how Razor wants the ABs to play. Clearly, Plummer didn’t fit in the big picture
Unfortunately I do not see plummer winning a world cup with the All Blacks at flyhalf.
Not saying he is not worthy of an opportunity.
Every word cup winning team had a word class flyhalf, the All Blacks does not have one at the moment, this is what worries me.
Samehere 🇿🇦
if you go onto my two cents rugby he has the stats of sotutu and it isnt as impressive as the others. Sititi is a star. Well picked. average 70 m a game and 94% tackle rate
Sotutu knows his way to the try line... He'll do everything to put points up for the team.
Stats don't accurately reflect everything.
@@1Tim1.15they don't need him to score tries it's the ABs they score tries across the team. They need him to do his job on and off the ball and be a good team player which hes obviously shown not enough to pick
@@atapene he's not a team player??
Where is he lacking in team play?
@@1Tim1.15 his tackling was poor and he made less metres than sititi. Maybe sotutu should try playing centre
@@Edgycoo He played more games then Sititi that's why his tackling stats are like that.
look, If McKenzie has played 10 games with 90% success rate in conversions, and Jodie Barret plays 1 game (kicks only 2 conversions) and has a 100% success rate... You know that the stats don't fully reflect everything. even though one is at 90% and the other at 100%.
If we're picking purely on stats, then Blackadder should be dropped.
I’m starting to take Wilson’s twit comments about kicking blah blah blah as a compliment. Maybe NZ just doesn’t have it. Too one dimensional. All they do is run? Average defence compared to England France and Ireland? Not tall and strong compared to many others? At least they have the IRB on their side moving the goalposts yet again
Should the question be " can England beat the AB's?.
Short answer: Not this year!!
I think they can win, especially the first test
First test in particular nz may be disjointed, new coach with less than 2 weeks to prepare
@@camwells9726disjointed gives Eng 40 minutes to be competitive and then NZ smashes them. They only managed 50 points against a Japan side that had players that have never played a professional game before. Useless
Yes they can ...
Wilson is the only guy speaking facts and being fair lmao
I think a better question is whether England can win one of the two tests matches.
Will Scott be fixated on winning? Winning is in the DNA of the AB’s. Like Bok supporters and players the AB’s hate loosing.
The difference between the AB’s and others teams is that AB supporters and players feel entitled to win.🥇
Not entitled, mate, that particular trait is a Saffa trait.
Well as a kiwi fan I am not convinced nor confident! I hope I am wrong!
@@fidget2020 not true. But, we own it for the moment. Right now, the Boks look pretty solid for 2027, mind you ….. the World Cup is not won in 2024.
@@thefobbie0034 Richie will be Baaaack.
@@JohanThiart of course, it’s true! Just read some of the many arrogant posts from Bokke fans on YT, RugbyPass. Instagram, etc etc. They weren’t always this bad, though. I remember after the ‘95 final at Ellis Park they were a lot less wank than they are these days.
What is BB doing in the squad? This panel is too gutless to call out his ridiculous selection
An easy win for ABs. High performers like Razzor they get the job done.
Why do we always seem to play them down there?
If Beauden starts we are doomed!
I see that Sotutu has an English mother...
Strange narrative that I've seen a few mention this, wonder if the Kiwi's saying this are aware that he'd be probably 4/5th choice for England at 8.
Earl, Barbeary, Mercer, Willis, Fisilau, Dombrant
TwoCentsRugby breakdown is exceptional, and as great as his attack is his all round game is not enough.
If it was all just about attack Zach Mercer would be starting for England.
Can completely see why he's not being selected, makes much more sense to have a player who can be utilized across the back row because no one is getting any minuets over Ardie who's been resting in a retirement league this year and will be fresh and ready to battle against arguably the 2nd best 8 in the world in international rugby over the last year.
@@DanR-1994 You kidding?! He'd be very close to first pick. got power none of our lads have
@@Johnny-cf3jp no doubt at all! but he'd just be told the same thing in England that im guessing he has just been told...
you don't carry enough, you don't offer enough in defence, you don't cover enough ground, you are not a lineout option.
he's Alfie Barbeary in 3/4 years time.
Power isn't enough, you have to have it all like Earl and Ardie
Poor sod.
@@DanR-1994 You make great points. Just think England prosper when their 8 is a force of nature like Dallaglio
It's all pretty easy really . . . . here's the winning squad to play England in the first AB's test of 2024:
1. Tamati Williams
2. Cody Taylor
3. Pasilio Tosi
4. Patrick Tuipuloyu
5. Scott Barrett
6. Samipeni Finau
7. Dalton Papalii
8. Luke Jacobson
9. Christie Finlay
10. Damian McKenzie
11. Caleb Clarke
12. Jordie Barrett
13. Reiko Ioane
14. Mark Telea
15. Stephen Perofeta
16. Asafo Aumua
17. Ethan de Groot
18. Tyrell Lomax
19. Tupou Va'ii
20. Ardie Savea
21. TJ Perenara
22. Beauden Barrett
23. Anton Lienart-Brown
Let's just get the game started! Roll out the big boys, finish with the guns, game on.
If you have Razor & Co's email, please forward, and you're welcome.
you're dreaming if you think ardie savea(best player in the world last year) isn't starting. Beauden and TJ most likely starting as well with beauty at 15. De Groot and lomax will almost surely start, they were impressive at the world cup
What happened to our fantastic winger , that scored all the trust at the WC
It will be 1-1
You listen to this and think it was recorded in 2012 or so. Then you read the comments below and realize NZ rugby fans think its still 1987.
boring stereotype of a real human being you are
Question for the officials.!! They loved to RED the ABS.!!
3:11 Raukura hard
..N.zealind rugby are now genetically predominently a South Seas Islanders team..
News flash genius thats where N.Z is located
The Irish aren't far behind with 4(?) kiwis in their squad.... Tuilagi, Tuipulotu, Fuletou, are hardly good olde British family names, so what's your point?
😂😂😂😂only now you know that.. the island of newzealand people never won anything mate without poaching the island born players 2000+ miles away.just look at kiwi ferns mate how bad are they kid.😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@michaelmoynihan9591 that’s why all blacks dominance has existed for 100+ years aye genius. Long before the islanders were brought in during the labour shortage in nz. The islanders are largely 3-4 generation n.Zers today
@@D_Handlerpoaching island,s 2000+ miles away not exactly nxt door kid.😂😂😂😂😂❤
Roll away rule,is the worst rule now. 70% panelized,can not roll,or wiggle them out. More time should be allowed to clear them.! If they do not interfere with play,the ref should allowed play to continue.!! Most players, are held down on purpose.!!
I think razor should have been coach years ago. 8 years ago to be exact.
Nz need to deal with the fact that 80%-90% eras are gone and dusting ….that is what they wanna chase
If Robertson and his squad struggle to win or perform, or even lose, will the NZ public apply the same ruthless pressure that was given to Foster? Kiwis cant handle losing. Will they call for instant changes, sackings, heads to roll? Or is Robertson given more leeway?
What do you care Scruff? NZ in your head mate, need to work on getting a life.
@@JTAIT-b7g But he has a point. We might be your biggest rivals but the world needs a strong AB side.
@@Karma-qt4ji What is his point exactly? NZ fans criticizing Ian Foster is no different to SA fans criticizing Alistair Coetzee or Australian fans criticizing Eddie Jones..thats what happens when you fall short of fans expectations right? These guys get paid the big bucks gotta expect some heat to deliver. Old Scruff just has sand in his undies about NZ & wants to peddle his narrative.
@@JTAIT-b7g Okay, but put another way, are fans going to expect Razor to win everything? Will they accept a loss against England, even just one game?
@@Karma-qt4ji Well people are different aren't they mate? Some fans will expect Razor to win everything while others wont..personally I think the days of any team beating everyone are likely gone for good with 4 or 5 teams capable of beating each other on the day as it stands.
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You guys sounds humbled after the WC final
I wish Kirwin would ditch those massive glasses. Creepy. I’d go 1-1 for the series, England to win the first game by dominating the set piece.
Jk got a 3D printer for Christmas.
.made the silly glasses
Hoskins the best player in super rugby is very unlucky
Yes...
England have played 6 warm-up test facing the cold & injured All Blacks 😂
Play 6.Finau 7.Savea 8.Sititi
Going forward with 2 broke locks ? Really,,,, ok !
Why pick Beauden as a 10,then his gonna play fullback?
I just don't see sean in the squad yet
JK thinking see stile of rugby razor building up?
After first call of players ...
JK u know a new style of playing its not made in weeks and over some test matches.
A team 90% of great players and refilled with young to play consistently its not made in weeks.
Short answer: Easy as pie....
Bored of this panel. Keep Mills and boot the rest. Breakdown yawn ...
NZ rugby like pacifican rugby its most respectful and power rugby....
Sadly world rugby thinking must getting theater clean like fifa?
If u know fijian, samoan or kiwis - boks rugby.. they playing hard but fair.
Play your rugby inside will of world rugby directing... then rugby uniin mostly its european money ruled?
Boks was addapt word ruby direction best last decade.
Sadly but trues!
why pacifican still get punished mutch more then white european players?
White european thinking ruling all and be perfect?
Cheech and Chong at it again.
mc kenzie is average in the big games
Yeah he always goes missing. Same with shaun stevenson
But then again, lets give him a chance under scott robertson.
Depends on who the Ref is
..some are pro England
South african Commentators are better 😊
Hard to be more provincial than these guys
04:20..... find a different style of rugby.....?
You complain because the Boks are playing a different style......
You complain because the Boks are not playing your style......
Do you sometimes hear yourself when you speak?
I think we'll get it done 2-0, but we are short a lock or two and a fullback.
Bit risky should injury hit S Barret, Paddy T, or BB
Yeah I agree they've got stand by players but 4 locks should be standard,vulnerable at lock if injuries occur
Hoskings gives away to many penalties.
England's goal kicker will have a field day.
"We haven't won the WC since 2015". The sheer arrogance.
The most self obsessed rugby nation on earth they just didn't talk about the opposition
Good to lose learn from the mistakes n then start winning All Blacks have lost some crucial games in World Cups
AB strategic and coaching must see, accept what world rugby for an game want!
Then build a team what world rugby strategy are to beat another with greatness, different but in they strategically referred games?
If world rugby want less kicks, scrums or what.. then AB must build something overrunning or evade this rules.
Boks was addapting world rugby rules at world cups perfectly last two rounds!
Winning world cup its accept they ruling and finding ways to overcome difgernt ways to winning your way!
If world rugby want less kicking game finding ways with kicking at rigjt time and doing what bringing winning?
Every world cup all know what referees watching most.
AB must find innovation game in world rugby interesting but differently.
Playing best rugby like pacifican its sadly punished at world cup if world rugby want another game!
Go the All Blacks kia kaha win win win
Trust the eco-chamber boys to discuss this game without naming a single England player…😂
Next weeks edition, mate, this week was always going to be about the AB squad.
It’s about the All Blacks Squad announcement, not specifically the England Test.
What does 'both sides of the ball mean'? Stuffed if i know.
It means "on defence as well as on attack".
@@rooftile883 thanks
Poor Hoskins but they have to signed the new kid, Sititi so wouldn't play for Samoa
He was born in N Z.
I wonder if Roger Tuivasa-Sheck regrets going back to rugby league, now, that the Blues are Super Rugby kings again.
I doubt he gives a shit lol.
He wanted to be an all black.
no loss....
Huge respect for Roger his heart was 💯 in it but as talented as he is the super and national side was always going to be nigh impossible to crack so I don't knock him for his decision to return to league good luck to him
He’ll come back and they’ll start losing again like the warriors
Razor’ all blacks will smash them . Poms overrated.When you see the all blacks ‘ front row with Razor , poms will be trashed !
And what happens if the All Blacks lose? Or at least struggle? Will you start blaming the coach, ref, players, and apply the same horrid treatment that was towards Foster?
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 Foster was a pretender,given a job well beyond his capabilities.He was put in because of cronyism,not ability.
And the public knew,and resented it, All the grief he got,he bought on himself.Thank God,that plank is gone.
@@richardscanlan3419 razor will be the new Foster when things go south mate.the kiwi crowd is fickle kid a bunch of smiling knives.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@michaelmoynihan9591 sure he will,mick.
Regardless,at least we use our own coaches,which is more than can be said for your lot.
@@richardscanlan3419 ye will be calling for fozzie back😂😂😂😂😂 soon enough.????
England came closer to beating SA than us. Infact they should have won that game....... a bs call If I remember won SA the game
SA won both by 1 pt.... we should have won also, missed a couple of fairly regular kicks of the tee... we did dot down twice, one was ripped away by poor officiating, so I'm not sure the Poms got closer than we did...
@@fidget2020 As if to illustrate a point I made to you in another thread....
The OP is claiming a bs penalty to SA for a prop going down on a knee in the scrum after repeated resets - the scrum was not straight later in the piece but that was the first offence and got penalised correctly. You were penalised twice for that in the opener against France, we (Boks) were penalised for it in the Scotland game and Ireland game, and England scored their winning points in the bronze playoff when the Argentina prop did that. Why is the SA one the only one we are talking about?
It pains me to even contemplate why you think a try should have been allowed after Ardie clearly lost the ball forward and it hit de Groot / Retallick. Secondly, that rumour mill I was talking about... Stuff decided to publish a "I heard it from a guy.." and that's all you need to cry foul because of "multiple phases" having passed?
The ignorance of rugby laws, even from pundits and former players like JK and Goldie, who believe that a tackle and clean out constitutes a phase, is what has caused this uproar. A phase is clearly defined in the law book and a tackle and clean out does not qualify. In the context of that passage of play, you would need rucks to be formed and that simply did not happen. There was no reason NOT to overturn the try, it was well within the protocols, so no, "poor officiating" did not overturn the try where you knocked the ball on.
The try was overturned because of an All Blacks' error, you were given a penalty for the incident, from where you ultimately scored your one and only try.
@@fidget2020, 😴😴😴😴
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yes they beat them in the build up to the World Cup final so they can beat them again with home ground advantage thats for sure .......im picking 10.5 points or more .
Stop playing players out of their specialist positions.
With their eyes closed.
Did you learn nothing from 2019? It won't be easy, yes the all blacks could win 2-0 but it could well be 1 each
World rugby under european controll was last decades punish pacifican island very pervert!
Fiji samoan and tonga playing respectfully and great rugby but was punished so mutch like AB with red card in final!
Hence why your never be a select jk
I think the Hoskins bandwagon should erect a shrine with the inscription
Most Hated.
I think Hoskin doesn't deserve in a spot in the squad against England. Scoring 12 tries in a Super Rugby season doesn't mean anything if you get off the ground slowly and you're lazy in defense. Maybe change the inscription to "Most Lazy" or "Learn to play both sides of the ball"
@@subhuman119Poor Hoskins doesn’t wear black and red jersey.
Bell does!!
@@markrutherford6010 What's that got to do with it? Unless you're referring to Riccitelli, who won't make it to the World Cup in 2027, but George Bell will, and who was in the wider squad leading to the RWC last year. Is that your point?
And lets be honest here. Neither Bell or Riccitelli make the squad if Taukei'aho is fit.
@@subhuman119 Riccitelli definitely is better player than Bell.He was outstanding for the Blues.
What heck has Bell done with that losing team from down south.
@@markrutherford6010 as previously mentioned with Taukeiaho being out, Razor n co. are choosing to opt for the chance to develop for the future seeing as Bell is only 22 and Ricitelli near 30. It's not a knock on Ricky's form or ability just an eye to the future
Shaun Stephenson? Who is the full back 🙋🏽♂️
Would love to have seen him picked but his chances would have suffered due to some dubious defensive lapses this season. This coming from a Chiefs supporter
Beauden will be, Will Jordan is expected to be back for the rugby championship.
As usual this group always spend more time talking about the backs! Need to drop one of these “backs” and get an articulate forward to talk about the Foundation of Rugby! It all starts UP FRONT!
@@korocam9137 agreed. maybe only James Parsons fits the bill in the nz rugby media currently. Kane Hames at times
Shooter seems to have been carrying injuries and niggles all season. Shame but he can’t really be selected on last years form. He’s not been there this season
all blacks will lose the first test 2024...
England will probably win the first test, England have phenomenal loose forwards and Marcus Smith has that X factor that ABs are missing without Muanga
@@KJTmethod More guessing
@@Intergalatikk 😂 humble pie accepted, now that’s the ABs that we expect, I’m guessing it’s gonna be a massive battle between Boks & ABs 👌
Go England. Punish them well 😂
NO u cannot !
I remember the nonsense they spoke before the WC final. Now they are at it again
Front 5 looks suspect af👀
Simple answer? No.
He wants to play a Crufaders type game and they got smashed this year 😂
They should be building around a proven winning style and team and that's the Blues
Stop talking our your ass lol Crusaders under Razor’s tutelage was unstoppable. Blue’s have won their first title in how long? I’m not even a Saders fan or AB’s but you can’t be serious lol
Well, they beat the blues recently.
kirwan always blues byest
aye
These guys were great players but are poor rugby journos. JK and Mils offer very little.
Why kiwis not talking more about island rugby?
AB and kiwis are strong also about manu same, Fijian and tongan rugby!
🙏 playing more test matches with fiji, Samoa and tonga.
Be strong united down under🙏
Southern rugby must be so great thats european begging playing against southern... why boks thinking alone profits in europe helping them?
After years boks oriented only to europe showing they loosing they leading evolution in rugby?
yes