Can you Beat Pokemon Black *WITHOUT EXP*?!
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2024
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I love both Pokemon Black/White and 0 EXP challenges. This was a lot of fun!
Edited by @SimplyAJ
Music by @makegamemusic - Ігри
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How'd you comment 19mim ago and post only 9s ago 🤔
Massive W
@@paulc6439 Video was likely uploaded as unlisted or somesuch before going live, so he could view it and comment ahead of time to get the pin done.
Best remake! Go get it!
That's awesome
This is basically the N challenge, you play like N who only uses local Pokemon that just came to help him.
Maybe that's exactly what the developers had planned on, when they made the EXP system lock if you pirated the game.
@@Alizudo Imagine that: pirate speedrun.
conspiracy theory: n actually pirated a copy of pokemon black, and him talking about releasing your pokemon is just him making an excuse to reason why he doesnt have the same team every time
True, very fitting that the challenge'd be done in this game
Nah, if it was the N challenge everyone would just forfeit to him with N expending no energy or effort. He defines Gary Stu, lol.
Pokemon:when can we get stronger?
Jrose: that's the neat part. You don't
Being less than 30 minutes in and at the E4…oh man.
17:28 That's because Bulldoze CAN'T hit pokemon underground, unlike Earthquake and Magnitude. I know that's weird but that's how it works
Came to say this as well
Not really that weird, the move's description says that the user either stomps down on the ground or tramples the targets into the ground, it doesn't actually shake the ground. Pretty sure the confusion just comes from Bulldoze hitting everyone in double battles like Earthquake and Magnitude do.
Earthquake and Magnitude are actually *_rending the earth open,_* Bulldoze is just bulldozing them...
@rainpooper7088 no, the confusion comes from the name itself
@@kingfoorthwal Well, bulldozers don't really dig downward so much as they push stuff around. Now, if the move was called Rototill...
Gen 5 runs are honestly my favourite runs to see, love how far you are pushing the boundaries of what is possible and impossible.
when other ytubers get sponsors: i sleep
when jrose has a sponsor: real shit
Yeah. This is at least a sponsorship that isn't bullshit though.
There are some YTers that I respect very highly until I see them sponsored by some gatcha game and my opinion of them drops drastically.
@@bradlauk1419they gotta get the bag. I bet they don't actually like the product they're promoting most of the time
@@bradlauk1419whats wrong with gacha games, if its good then it's good
Ok Shaq
@@bradlauk1419 hey it pays the bills. I can't be made at folks for trying to make money, and I can just skip the ad
Now that jrose said he regretfully hasn't made a lot of videos on gen 5, does this mean we'll finally get the bw2 catch em all?
I sure hope so! His catch 'em all series is great!
the way you pronounce Deino is actually spot on. the name gimick of the evolution line is that it counts to 3 in german (Eins, Zwei, Drei; Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon) and "ei" in german is just pronounced like the solitary letter i in english.
Does this mean Hydreigon is actually pronounced Hy-dri-gon? TIL
@@timmaia5082 Yep, Drei is pronounced as Dry.
And Zweilous is pronounced Zvy-lous (with the lous pronounced like Jealous)
I remember when Black and White first came out, there was a whole debacle because Serebii was caught using an illegal ROM of the game after they were reporting you don't gain experience initially (and some other stuff not in the official release). You can't find the evidence on Serebii but some GameFAQs threads dated back to around that time were discussing it
That was a crazy time, I wonder if that ROM with the anti-piracy measures was at all an inspiration for these types of challenges later on
Congrats on the Persona 3 Reload sponsor!!
Yes, I remember this too, I never got Black, but my friend was adament they had anti-piracy measures programmed in starting this generation. I never followed it closely enough to know if it was true or just playground talk
HE GOT SPONSORED BY PERSONA 3 RELOAD. ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
Sounds impressive at first until you realize it's Atlus yet again not wanting to release a definitive version of Persona 3
IKR lol i already pre bought it
Can't wait for the SMT V 'How fast can you beat the game with ONLY Mothman' run.
@@halowaffle25we all have that 99 all stats Pixie 😂
can't wait for the 11th version of persona 5 to be shoved in my face wherever I go while wishing atlus would focus on any of the great series they have and still haven't ruined
Fun fact, bulldoze actually can't hit pokemon that are underground, for whatever reason. So your stoutland was completely safe against excadrill in the Clay fight.
Earthquake and Magnitude are actually *_rending the earth open,_* Bulldoze is just bulldozing them...
I argue it's not _"for whatever reason;"_ bulldozers don't shake the ground, they trample things or push them aside. Anything underground would be unaffected.
Earthquake and Magnitude, meanwhile, physically shuffle the very earth itself, ripping the ground open and still damaging anything beneath it.
@@Alizudo I just looked at the black and white bulldoze animation, and they definitely are shaking the ground and not pushing anything aside. Hate to break it to you, but you were wrong on the internet.
@@mynameispepper1590 It's Game Freak who's wrong on this. The animation they've made is not an accurate depiction of how a bulldozer works.
So you can cheese the whole end game with a low level dwebble with sturdy shell bell and endeavor I believe. As it counts as damage you go back to full to restock sturdy
You can do everything up to the Elite 4; as a normal-type move, Endeavor doesn't affect Ghost types, so Shauntal shuts that down hard.
it doesnt get endevor
I love that this challenge essentially turns you into N, who always uses Pokemon found in the area where you fight him.
Maybe that's exactly what the developers had planned on, when they made the EXP system lock if you pirated the game.
Honestly getting sponsored by Persona 3 Reload was the LAST thing I'd expect a poke tuber to do
I mean I feel like persona is a natural game for an adult pokemon fan to jump to. The monster collecting appeal is there.
@@billyflinn8328 It’s less the appropriateness of Josh as someone worth sponsoring and more the fact fact that Altus is notorious for being behind the times to the point of hostility towards its fanbase. Mostly stuff like imposing restrictions livestreams like how far they’re allowed to show the game before they abruptly need to stop altogether and their more recent scummy DLC practices.
@@billyflinn8328 As a person who joined Pokémon extremely early yes I did join on persona for that kinda reason
A Tatical RPG with monster catching sponsoring a pokemon youtuber? Makes no sense
@@pedrovin20 Not gonna lie, methinks Devil Children or mainline SMT would’ve been a better fit by that logic.
Jrose: The N/Ghetsis battle may take a long time
Me: *sees theres still twenty minutes left* oh no.....
Volcarona is my favorite, so it's always a treat seeing it shine in a playthrough. Great video!
Man, as much as I love seeing Jrose has uploaded a new video, I miss the old jingle.
This reminds me of, "I'll put the theme song here, if I don't then they'll cry" intro on, I think it was, the Oddish solo run video
You know... I do too.
@@Unholychaos987 thank you!! I've been looking for that video for a while
Wowow! The variety you go through here is incredibly refreshing after binging the backlog of red/blue mono runs.
The best part about all this is that you didn't use items. Even if you had a hacked system that didn't give you exp, you could still buy hyper potions and such and use them during battle.
Huh. A sponsor I can 100% support. The Persona series is outstanding, and 3 was my first (4 is my favorite though), but I applaud your choice of sponsor!
Probably the best sponsor I’ve ever seen. Something actually good lmao. Jrose is the king
4:24 canadians never fail to make me giggle
Because of how he pronounced Herdier? As a Canadian myself, I can honestly say that's got nothing to do with him being Canadian...
Pokemon with setup moves like Swords Dance, Quiver Dance, Dragon Dance, etc. are more powerful than Legendary Pokemon without setup moves.
If "Dino" isn't the official pronunciation of Deino, it probably should be, because that's like how you say the word German word "Ein" that it uses in reference to its one head.
One thing about Persona 3 is the soundtrack is spectacular! I've always loved hearing those songs in your challenge runs, don't think I didn't notice that!
It's a dream come true, an actual game with effort and love into it sponsoring a goated youtuber like Jrose11
Getting the bag and hyping persona? Jrose finally getting the props he deserves
I was so ready to post the “Where’s Alder?” comment but not only you already faced him, you also added Cynthia on top! This video was so interesting, definitely hoping for more like this!
No one will convince me that gen 5 crit rates aren't broken.
Gen 5 critical hits are not broken.
(Puts on my crotchety old man mustache, beard, spectacles, and cane).
Back in my day, critical hit rates were determined by your Base Speed. You whippersnappers cry about 1.5x critical hit damage, we had 2.0x critical hit damage that could kill us like cars without seat belts.
Standards for critical hits were higher back then. Venusaur and Victreebel were the OGs, not even OUs when they started out, and they invented OU Meowscarada and its 100% critical Flower Tricks. They didn't use performance-enhancers to dope their offensive stats in competition, the base power of their critical moves, nor min-max their speed stat above the competition with athletic scarfs, nor even change the entire natural personality they were born with for a competitive advantage. Any Pokémon with a Base Speed higher than 64 with a high-crit attack could replicate this common trick in the good old days. Venusaur and Victreebel's only mildly useful tool to take advantage was old-fashioned Sleep, which triggered new-gen Smogon so much that it is now banned.
Kingler's 100%* critical STAB Crabhammers were barely good enough for NU, let alone OU. The mountain lion Persians we wrestled with our bare hands had guaranteed* critical Slashes, in UU, in a generation where Normal types ruled, when we only had a single option for a fully-evolved Ghost, a few Pet Rocks that disintegrated immediately when they didn't get off my wet, freshly-cut lawn, and no safe spaces with Steel types. We had to play outside with other kids and got our knees skinned by constant Slashes from parasitic mushrooms, hedgehogs, underground mole trios faster than horses, resurrected trilobites with giant scythes for hands, giant praying mantises with scythes for hands, demonic stag beetles with giant twin horns, fire-breathing flying lizards (not to be confused with dragons, which wrapped their bodies around opponents to a slow death), and terrestrial flying ducks wielding large leek-swords that were more funny than dangerous. The bodybuilding jocks and angry organ-playing monkeys would throw unexpected Karate Chops, and the class clown who ate glue sticks would do a Razor Wind to make us laugh.
Critical hits were the cool fashion back then, because they helped us break bulky stall teams with double the healing power points of modern games. Speaking of healing, we had to battle Mewtwos with 25% critical hit rates, in deadly freezing Blizzards, up a hill, both ways, after they Recovered or Rested. In fact, we were thankful when Mewtwo would do resisted critical hits, as that would do less damage than an Amnesia-boosted attack, regardless of how many boosts. Ouch, I think my back creaked after those painful memories, someone get me my dentures and pudding pops!
*We were good, Murphy's law-abiding citizens who constantly worshipped Lord Helix and Bird RNGesus. They only responded 1/256 times to dodge a guaranteed attack, either the opponent's or ours. Then again, that sounds like the blasphemous anarchy of the Dome Fossil and Flareon.
@@samperez1727 actually, it always worked against me much more often than it should, so I choose to ignore the facts for now ;)
Irony that Alder got crushed by his own signature Pokemon.
Hope the inevitable remakes improve his team, it makes Geeta's look good.
To be fair, Geeta has an extra layer of difficulty. Somehow you have to reach her without the existence of an open world not making you give up due to how demotivating it is. It's extremely hard.
If you intend to do this on Black 2 and White 2's Challenge Mode, you have to take something very deceiving into account: while the trainer Pokémon's levels are higher, they actually have the same stats as they'd have on the level they have on Normal.
The same applies on Easy (with the caveat you also get less money in this case).
At least level does matter for damage calculations
@@jurgenh.7980I believe JRose has custom music. I however could absolutely be wrong.
@@NecromancyForKids YOUR level matters. Your opponent's doesn't.
So your Pokémon will be dealing the same damage to Iris's Haxorus regardless of whether its level is 55, 59 or 63, because in all three cases it has Level 59 stats.
I meant in reference to when attacking specifically, where I do believe that opposing Pokemon do still get the same damage calculation. I can see where it may have seemed I meant incoming damage was affected by your level, though. @@llSuperSnivyll
@@NecromancyForKids Ah, fair enough. Dunno which level it takes into account int said case.
For instance, in Easy it gives you the same amount of experience of its level in Normal, but the prize money of its level in Easy.
I remember that anti privacy measure for Pokémon black….not admitting to anything lol
I can only speak for myself, but I would love to see Persona challenge runs from you, JRose.
"And let me know what game you'd like me to play without experience."
Dragon Quest 3
dew it
Please no. 😢
Persona is one of the best recommendations for a Pokemon fan. These are basically the only two major turn based JRPGs right now. So I am glad to see this sponsorship on your channel.
I don't know how available berry juice is in these games, but you could always use the F.E.A.R. strategy. Sturdy with berry juice gives you two hits, use endeavor to bring them to low hp, and clean them up with a priority move.
Rock Slide misses 10% of the time, but Hone Claws matters as it raises attack and accuracy. Brycen's ace Cryogonal is underwhelming.
Eelektross was always such a beast when id battle against it but when I finally had one for myself on my black 2 team it was a pushover
It's one of those "suffers in stats because zero weaknesses" mons. Spiritomb and Sableye had the same problem, though now they also have a weakness thanks to the Fairy type. None of these pokemon do enough damage or soak enough damage to be useful, though I was able to use Pain Split Spiritomb on a competitive team for awhile despite that.
I started watching you like a couple days ago and i honestly wish i found your channel earlier your content is so underrated and so fun to binge keep up the good work bro! :)
You have a lot of catching up to do, 😂
A channel which gets >200k views on almost every single video (300-500k with good frequency) is _underrated?_ You know, in this case, I think I might just agree with you.
Great video! Loved the effort you put in and how you showed losses.
This was super fun to watch, would look forward to basically any Pokemon game that had this challenge.
Just what I needed to sleep like a newborn. Thanks man, love your content
I’ve been having the worst day! This video legit means so much to me right now! Thank you!! ♥️♥️♥️
Thank you for bringing attention to Persona even if it was by sponsor. A fantastic franchise that I hope someone gets into because of your video.
I'd watch DJ Rosey-Rose do solo challenges in Persona games
Strategy over op pokemon anyday
JRose! Good for you getting all these sponsors! I hope they're richly rewarding you for putting in all the time I desperately don't want to spend in actually playing these games the way you do :D.
I'm glad you're doing a video on Black/White.
This was very cool to see in action! I always love the no exp series, but some of these battles were super creative!
Been waiting for this one, blessed with a 1 hour video
i feel your pain man. That Bianca battle before the tubline bridge is the absolute worst. it took me so long and i could overlevel my pokemon
"Fivever" killed me 🤣
Great job Jrose, it was awesome seeing you take on the post game elite 4 team and Cynthia and keep up the amazing work
2011?! The peak of the pokemon sprites still holds up well
More Persona sponsorships! Congrats!
Hey Jrose!
I love your videos, bro. Your videos are always great, informative and entertaining.
I’m pretty new to zero EXP runs. What’s the restriction to these? Is it like minimum battles?
Keep up all the amazing work Jrose!
thank you for uploading so often whenever I see your updates I already know it's gonna be a good day
That Ghetsis fight was genius, loved seeing this done!
Persona 3 really is about as high quality as what you expect from the channel promoting it though. Great video and I'm glad to see you getting so many sponsorships! Flourish forever my favorite poketuber!
I still remember when Black and White leaked, and the DRM was basically this mod. Meaning this is the only Jrose challenge I've actually already tried.
Man, well done on these high profile sponsors lately. You've earned this success.
These games are some of my favorites in the series. So happy to see a tough challenge getting some love here.
Can’t wait for the opinionated Gen. 1 solo challenge tier list.
This is my fave series🎉looking forward to watching
I love the vids jrose! Hope you have a great Friday
Gen 5 is one of my favorites too. I like how different it feels since the dex is all new. I know some of the things I love about the generation were reasons people didn't like it when it came out, but I think particularly with the formula being so similar in the other 8 generations now the difference makes it shine a bit more.
Would love to see more gen 5! Can you beat the game with just a Cottonee?
Love that my favorite Pokemon (Volcarona) comes into play. It's such a beast.
My fav Generation, loved a lot of the QoL and just general upgrades to the games, infinite TM's being the big one.
Persona 3 is literally my favorite game, I’m so hype for the remake.
Awesome video as always ❤
Bulldoze doesnt hit underground, only earthquake, magnitude and fissure hit underground with earthquake and magnitude dealing double damage
Fissure makes them faint twice
@@emisor9272 lol
Hey Jrose, great video as always. What do you think about doing challenges where you exclusively use pokemon teams consisting of pokemon that evolve by friendship or those with their hidden abilities? You could for example use the pokemon in b2w2 in the hidden grotto areas exclusively after they become available or something like that. Either of these would allow you to play one of the generation 5 games among others.
Opened up youtube with my chipotle burrito ready to eat. Needless to say I was hyped to see this video in my sub box
This is the first sponsor in years where I'm actually interested!
Always awesome to see more gen 5 content as someone who grew up with Black/White 1. Thank you!
Are you planning on continuing the Black/White catch em all series?
Man that is a hell of a sponsor!
I like how you fought ghetisis I know some may critique that strat but not using legendary and seeing how you countered him taught me something
Would love to see a B/W2 challenge mode video! This was a super fun one!!
Snorlax is the first non-legendary static encounter I guess folowed by voltorbs at the power plant I think, then Swudowoodo followed by Shiny Gyarados which btw is the first shiny static encounter, the second shiny static encounter I think it is black Haxorus in black 2/white 2 and I think Lapras in gold/silver is also considered a non-legendary static encounter. But high level and beyond that a powerful mon Volcarona is the first and shiny black Haxorus is the second at level 60 iirc.
Nice video I love gen 5 is the my favorite gen bether than the soul silver
Yay, gen 5! These games were my childhood. I want to see more challenges done with Black/White. I even did a Joltik run myself, where I needed to get to level 96, just to get a 1 in ~70 chance to beat the final N battle.
That's very impressive. I've always wanted to do a solo Pichu run on Black 2 Challenge Mode. But I'm not that brave 😂
Yep, the eye sound for Deino is correct, seeing as it's based on eins, zwei, drei, (vier, funf, sechs, etc...) and dino/deino from dinosaur and deinosuchus (deino being ancient greek for fear inducing).
Fun fact: Bulldoze does not in fact hit targets that are using dig, despite how it looks
I was not ready for those Volcarona victory laps 😂
Ayo, I know that mon in the thumbnail!
Great vid as always!
Wow! You got sponsored by persona 3? Way to make me jealous JRose! Gratz
hey jrose! you inspired me to do a solo run, being pokemon emerald, and using porygon!
Thank you for the great video and the reminder that Persona 3 Reload is releasing very soon=3
Damn sponsored by Atlus Persona 3, amazing game preordered my collector already. Congrats man
This was a nice surprise! The reason Gen 5 runs are so rare is because of the EXP system not favouring solo challenges, so may as well just get rid of experience altogether right?
I'd be interested to see Sinnoh also make a rare appearance in your runs. Sadly I don't think minimum battles will be as fun for you as previous games, but this particular challenge is arguably the most interesting one, so I'd definitely be up for that. If you do, note that the E4 and champion are higher level in DP than in Platinum
Having tried my own solo challenge with the Snivy line in BW2... I don't think the game really hurts you that way. I mean, sure, weak Pokémon are going to have an AWFUL time because overleveling is more difficult, but the game does give you a Lucky Egg for free halfway-through... (and BW2 gives you Return and the Silk Scarf before the second gym).
If there's a game I think will heavily discourage solo challenges is Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, because the bosses are really strong for mainline Pokémon standards.
If Jrose11 would be willing to use the Universal randomizer, he could deactivate the EXP system and make the game use the old base experience point system.
@@Lebon19 I wouldn’t be against that at all, in my opinion that isn’t really cheating, it’s just adjusting the game to be the same as the others for challenges to make them more fun to do and give him extra variety.
I thought this might be harder in the late game due to gen 5's insane evo levels, but all the options in later gens make setting up a lot more viable as well
Love all things gen 5, so if it helps make vids more enjoyable/efficient to produce there's an AR code that forces shaking grass/water/cave spawns with a button press. I'm assuming that's where a lot of your team building time went into (especially for some of the 5% spawns like Sawk/Stoutland) and it's an absolute life saver for these games.
This came out at the right time i just beated Pokémon black and is now on the hunt for white 2
love that persona is sponsoring pokemon channels
Those Gen 5 challenges are so fun!
Gosh, seeing jrose use a basculin reminds me of some of his old battle videos from the gen 6 era , good times
Great run! You absolutely obliterated the game - even all the optional fights! Man, Volcarona is super F'ing OP. I believe that thing was OU in Gen5 competitive. Might be even Uber level? All thanks to Quiver Dance ofc. Only a very small list of pokemon can learn besides Volcarona:
- Venomoth (heh - doesn't help it),
- Bellossom (Interesting. Could give Bellossom some interesting use in leagues such as UU)
- Masquerain (Intimidate helps it but still too weak to use it)
- Lilligant (that's actually pretty good; would hit like a truck with its 110 sp.a and okay-ish 90 speed)
- Vivillion (Naaaaah)
- Cutiefly and Ribombee (too bad Ribombee is so frail and has so much weaknesses, it's pretty fast and could easily sweep with an ok 95 sp.a. Shield Dust could help... kinda? Nah.)
- Frosmoth (Ice version of Volcarona with... 2 x4 weaknesses and way too slow to setup a sweep)
- Oricorio (By breeding. Oricorio has too much of a shallow movepool even throughout its forms)
So yeah, a limited move for a very good reason.
Nice to see awesome Pokemon like Volcarona and Metagross really shine in the post-game.
I remember reading a guide on how to cheese the entire post game elite 4 with Volcarona and Altaria, all without training
I was really hoping to see if you'd try to catch that 1% encounter Dragonite from fishing in the dragon tower.
56:05 "... because it's out of fire blasts, I was keeping count, and that's why I didn't send in Volcarona until this point"
Proceeds to tank a Fire Blast with the substitute
I love seeing videos in other gens so I can hear how Jrose pronounces new pokemon names.
Let’s fucking go love watching your videos they make my entire day every time
Yes. Time to compare the run to smallant
Smallant uses legendaries though, and usually items too
(Not that I have a problem with that. I love Smant's content as well as JRose's)
While I was grinding on Persona 3 reload while listening to this video