Nice job! Thank you so much. This was a life saver. I did this in my driveway. The band V clip was really difficult to bend. I practiced with the old one first. Don't use a piece of wood to protect the lining. It will allow the V clip to push through the metal band and bend it. I used a shop rag to protect the lining from the jaws of the clamp and it pushed the rag into the lining and some of lining ripped off with the rag. Oops, It'll be aight. I had to put a 2 foot cheater bar on my vise handle to bend the V clip. I also practiced getting the old band around the drum first. I didn't use anything to pull it around. Just push and wiggle. There was only two spots where it seem to hang up. THANKS FOR POSTING
The internet lives forever! Used this vid this week to change out the band in my 46re on my 1500 Ram. No way I would have attempted it without your how to help. Thanks guys!
no stupid pointless intros, no stupid music, good enough for the diyer to understand and best of all the band trick and settings! Excellent - thanks! have to do my 01 ram soon its not shifting into lower gears and now and then revs high with no power (yes fluid is at full idling in N) - so its time. Also our 67 travco trans was ruined by stupid tow company who dragged it 90 miles without dropping driveshaft! Burned out - so ill be a dodging trans bullets. Gr8 vid!
Duuuiide i have been looking for a video like this for 3 yrs U all answered all the ????? That i have been asking PEOPLE for 3yrs didnt no what i was talking about OMG THANKS SOOOOO MUCH Most definitely do more band adjustments of u can i will b watching
Great work Ed! Not only a good video, but outstanding work asking the right questions to allow your employee to share his amazing depth of knowledge with us viewers.
Just wanted to say thanks for the video, did this on my 03's 48re. I bought 2 bands, 1st was a test and the second went on great! Been almost a year and around 9k miles so far.
Great video. I crushed the strut mount tab on the band, but apparently not enough. The band barely cleared the first notch on the case, and now it's hung-up somewhere on the top part of the drum/case. I can't get it out. I can't get it in. Feeling like a greenhorn over here.
Well done repair that transmission dasn't matter it work only for a while , better than replace right now. your investment in this barn and lift pays off
I bought a new band and tried to bend the tab, ended up breaking the spot welds. I ordered a new "Slip in band". I'll update when I receive it and install it. P.S. Great video!
@@adammogan1165 It went well, they modified the wrong side of the band so I had to install from passenger side rather then the drivers side as instructed. A little tighter but eventually got it. I have a couple hundred miles on it so far good.
Glad I found this video , because it looks like I will be doing the same thing on my ram , just pulled the pan off today to get ready to change the governor pressure solenoid , I'm going to see if I can adjust before I replace it but at least I have an idea of what I have to do .
Best vid yet on how to get a few more miles before a full rebuild 🤣 Thanks tons for taking the time guys 🤙Can I confirm if this was a "slip in band" or a regular one?
I have a 99 Dodge Ram 1500 Van and the transmission is slipping pretty bad around 30 mph. This video has been extremely insightful. I have been doing a lot of research before doing ANYTHING with my transmission. I'm thinking replacing the band may fix the problem I'm having. If you guys have any input and have the time or means to reply (or anyone else who's been in my boat) please let me know. Many thanks!
I dropped my pan due to a P1740 and found the pawl in it. I new second gear was really crappy too before i got the code, but thanks to your video, I know what it is without much research. My question is this; What causes this issue to occur in the first place? Is it a symptom of the bands not having been adjusted on time or some other issue? Just want to know if I need to keep an eye out for something else. Thanks again.
@@gracefulgoon3190 Scrolling up in the comments, looks like it lasted 3yr and +1yr with guy he sold it to. Beyond that, no report. So, at least 4yr. Good enough for me!
Nice garage n video I have same truck thats an 06 48re 300k and i crawled under it and adjusted the front band for second and it was so out that when adjusted correctly the t40 torx screw is down inside the threads and not sticking out for the jam nut so my 2nd gear band is toast . but second gear still actually works it just hesitates for a few seconds at 2k then will shift . I may just pull trans rear main is starting to leak too :(
How similar is this trans to a 46re? My son and I are working on his 99 Dakota R/T. He lost reverse, appears to have 2nd gear still. I have adjusted the rear band, it was a little loose, I did find a broken spring in the valve body, another site said it is the 3-4 spring, will that kill reverse? He wants to sell it so I want to fix as inexpensively as possible. Great video with great information.
The 3-4 spring has an aftermarket spring thats thicker and addresses the spring breakage. And yes the trans are so similar you can modifiy the 46re trans into an HD trans.
No, you can adjust the rear band just by dropping the pan. Keep in mind the settings are different for different years as well as whether or not it's a 46, 47, or 48re, so be sure to look up the specs for your tranny as these band adjustments need to be precise for your particular model and year.
Is it possible to do the reverse band with this method? I lost reverse over winter I dropped pan there's no metal chunks fluid is pretty clean there was some sludge on the magnet and a lil very fine brass shavings in bottom of pan but looked real good everything else works overdrive and it shifts beautifully any help would be greatly appreciated
great video. I've got an 2006 with a bad death wooble even after everything in the front end has been replaced and I do mean everything the only thing that hasn't been replaced is the axle assembly any idea what could be the problem?
My truck shifts nice now with new front band but now it surges intermittently and feels like someone put a brake on the transmission.. The truck will surge then slow down by itself. Ugh. I only drove it around the block twice. Any guesses. I reset the TTVA, no help. I also had to put in a new solenoid because the connector broke during the install.
I adjusted it twice, the lever did not move as easy as your video did at 12.11, but it does have a little play. 72 in lbs and 1 3/4 turn my manual says. You say 2 turns in video. It did get a flat spot on the band when I bent the tab in the vise. Should I back it off another 1/4 turn see if it gets better?
Mark Shanks Yea I'd try that. 1 3/4 turns specified in the manual assumes a good stock band but they gave the servo extra travel to account for when the band starts wearing. If you back off the adjustment another 1/4 to 1/2 turn you're just using more of the servos travel. I'd start there, just make sure it doesn't slip under load in 2nd gear.
I backed it out 1/2 turn. It does slip now and temp went to 270 degrees on a 5 minute trip. Before normal temp was about 170. I'll drop the pan and take a look see, and make sure all the connectors are fully seated.
Mark Shanks Yea something isnt right in there, I'm thinking that bend might be causing some trouble. Easy on the trans temp, I get scared over 220 in my truck.
edzGarage working on the same thing, i can't remove the stuipid shift levers on top, i have removed both bolts do i need to spread the bottom lever alittle to get it to come up off the shaft? also, for the park rod do i need to be in a certain gear when reinstalling the VB? You guys rocked this video btw!
I like to put a flathead screwdriver between the levers to work the top one off and loosen up the lower one, you can do the same thing between the case and lower shift lever if you're careful, watch out for the seal under it though. They can be stubborn, keep working them around. As for the park rod, I usually put the rod in first and make sure park engages then put it into the VB and verify again. Be careful with the e-clip, it can be a pain.
i'm trying this right now and i'm having a hard time getting new band in.. i bent the tab down alot and i got the band in alittle more then a 3rd but it feels like its hung up any suggestions i can pull it out so not stuck? thanxx for the video wished i had a lift hard on my bones
theres nothing up there right just case the wire must be hanging up on something thanxx how mant quarts of oil did you put back in in thinking at least 10
Can you replace the rear band with the trans still in the truck? looks like that is what is wrong with my 97 Ram no reverse or engine break when you let off of the throttle.
I don't know about your adjustments I changed the band on mine and did the adjustments now it's not drivable. After some research I've found 3 different answers on what the number of turns you back of after torquing to 71 in lb. I know the 3 and 1 7/8 made my truck undrivable.
Smashing job :-D well done :-D. That looked like a pain in the bum, your lift is a godsend Ed :-D. I get the impression that it wont last long, you sounded like you didnt expect the transmission to last, is it on its last legs Ed ?
The drum was not machine smooth so the new friction band has the the potential wear uneven, this uneven wear will shorten the life of the band. I think as long as he doesn't slip second gear by racing or pulling the repair should last for a good while. It is second gear, a gear you pass though pretty quickly in normal driving, so wear should be at a minimum. We will see :-)
evan miller It sure was, the truck drives night and day better, most of the fluid was reused as well. It's still holding strong with a programmer on the truck now.
It's important to get the exact specs for your model as the band adjustment is critical, the adjustment specs vary wildly from one model and year to another.
great video. I've got an 2006 with a bad death wooble even after everything in the front end has been replaced and I do mean everything the only thing that hasn't been replaced is the axle assembly any idea what could be the problem?
Shawn West the problem is it's a dodge... I own a 2005 and will not make that mistake again. I love the truck but so many things with the truck done wrong. only thing right is Cummings engine
4th gen tie rod, and steering box stabilizer, maybe redo your wheel bearings and upper and lower balljoints and it should work i had the same problem to the point where it cracked my windshield but after i did that it ran nice and straight
Nice job! Thank you so much. This was a life saver. I did this in my driveway. The band V clip was really difficult to bend. I practiced with the old one first. Don't use a piece of wood to protect the lining. It will allow the V clip to push through the metal band and bend it. I used a shop rag to protect the lining from the jaws of the clamp and it pushed the rag into the lining and some of lining ripped off with the rag. Oops, It'll be aight. I had to put a 2 foot cheater bar on my vise handle to bend the V clip. I also practiced getting the old band around the drum first. I didn't use anything to pull it around. Just push and wiggle. There was only two spots where it seem to hang up.
THANKS FOR POSTING
Excellent video. I just swung the valve body around rather than unhooking parking rod. Gave me enough room to replace the band.
The internet lives forever! Used this vid this week to change out the band in my 46re on my 1500 Ram. No way I would have attempted it without your how to help. Thanks guys!
no stupid pointless intros, no stupid music, good enough for the diyer to understand and best of all the band trick and settings! Excellent - thanks! have to do my 01 ram soon its not shifting into lower gears and now and then revs high with no power (yes fluid is at full idling in N) - so its time. Also our 67 travco trans was ruined by stupid tow company who dragged it 90 miles without dropping driveshaft! Burned out - so ill be a dodging trans bullets. Gr8 vid!
Duuuiide i have been looking for a video like this for 3 yrs
U all answered all the ????? That i have been asking PEOPLE for 3yrs didnt no what i was talking about
OMG THANKS SOOOOO MUCH
Most definitely do more band adjustments of u can i will b watching
Great work Ed! Not only a good video, but outstanding work asking the right questions to allow your employee to share his amazing depth of knowledge with us viewers.
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Just wanted to say thanks for the video, did this on my 03's 48re. I bought 2 bands, 1st was a test and the second went on great! Been almost a year and around 9k miles so far.
That's great to hear! Ours is still shifting and driving fine with about 10k miles on it. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Great video. I crushed the strut mount tab on the band, but apparently not enough. The band barely cleared the first notch on the case, and now it's hung-up somewhere on the top part of the drum/case. I can't get it out. I can't get it in. Feeling like a greenhorn over here.
Mannn... love the way you teach your kids be efficient and not to depend on someone else.. excellent video 👍
Wow, Im so envious of your new garage/building. Looks great! And nice work on the trans as well.
Thanks Buddy! We have been planning this barn for nearly 30 years... I'm glad we finally did it :-)
Well done repair that transmission dasn't matter it work only for a while , better than replace right now.
your investment in this barn and lift pays off
The lift makes jobs like these a relative breeze! Thanks for the comment!
your welcome
What kinda of band was it, like factory Thickness or upgraded thickness can I do this with any band or only factory thickness one????
Love it. no flash, no distractions, just the good shit.
I bought a new band and tried to bend the tab, ended up breaking the spot welds. I ordered a new "Slip in band". I'll update when I receive it and install it. P.S. Great video!
Didn't know they still made slip in bands, we couldn't find one at the time of the video. Let us know how it goes.
Any word on that slip in band install jack?
@@adammogan1165 It went well, they modified the wrong side of the band so I had to install from passenger side rather then the drivers side as instructed. A little tighter but eventually got it. I have a couple hundred miles on it so far good.
@@ZachU812 transmissioncenter.net/shop/slip-in-band-fits-48re-47re-46re-727-all-1962-up-change-without-pulling-the-transmission/
Thanks. Just ordered one
Awesome job guys learned more from ur video than the 50 others I watched keep it up
Is the truck still running on this transmission?
Still best video of swapping out the 2nd gear band on a 47RE.
Glad I found this video , because it looks like I will be doing the same thing on my ram , just pulled the pan off today to get ready to change the governor pressure solenoid , I'm going to see if I can adjust before I replace it but at least I have an idea of what I have to do .
Best vid yet on how to get a few more miles before a full rebuild 🤣 Thanks tons for taking the time guys 🤙Can I confirm if this was a "slip in band" or a regular one?
I have a 99 Dodge Ram 1500 Van and the transmission is slipping pretty bad around 30 mph. This video has been extremely insightful. I have been doing a lot of research before doing ANYTHING with my transmission. I'm thinking replacing the band may fix the problem I'm having. If you guys have any input and have the time or means to reply (or anyone else who's been in my boat) please let me know. Many thanks!
I wanted to see how you got that E clip installed back on the parking rod hook-up
james davies things a PITA to put back on.
Just use a very small needle nose. Was easier than I had thought.
I dropped my pan due to a P1740 and found the pawl in it. I new second gear was really crappy too before i got the code, but thanks to your video, I know what it is without much research. My question is this; What causes this issue to occur in the first place? Is it a symptom of the bands not having been adjusted on time or some other issue? Just want to know if I need to keep an eye out for something else. Thanks again.
This video is 4 year old just asking how many miles did you get out it . Great informative video thanks
Wondering the same.
@@gracefulgoon3190 Scrolling up in the comments, looks like it lasted 3yr and +1yr with guy he sold it to. Beyond that, no report. So, at least 4yr. Good enough for me!
Nice garage n video I have same truck thats an 06 48re 300k and i crawled under it and adjusted the front band for second and it was so out that when adjusted correctly the t40 torx screw is down inside the threads and not sticking out for the jam nut so my 2nd gear band is toast . but second gear still actually works it just hesitates for a few seconds at 2k then will shift . I may just pull trans rear main is starting to leak too :(
Good to know you can do this. Mine is about fully adjusted.
Nicely done! What a great shop you have now. Sweet lift.
Thanks for the comment Buddy!
How similar is this trans to a 46re? My son and I are working on his 99 Dakota R/T. He lost reverse, appears to have 2nd gear still. I have adjusted the rear band, it was a little loose, I did find a broken spring in the valve body, another site said it is the 3-4 spring, will that kill reverse? He wants to sell it so I want to fix as inexpensively as possible. Great video with great information.
The 3-4 spring has an aftermarket spring thats thicker and addresses the spring breakage. And yes the trans are so similar you can modifiy the 46re trans into an HD trans.
Do you need to drop the valve body to adjust the rear band? Nice work thanks for the video.
No, you can adjust the rear band just by dropping the pan. Keep in mind the settings are different for different years as well as whether or not it's a 46, 47, or 48re, so be sure to look up the specs for your tranny as these band adjustments need to be precise for your particular model and year.
Great video, my Durango 5.9 4x4 has the same problem without the damage to the drum .
So I'm going to do the swap.
How long did the replacement last its been almost 3 years now. You think they would make a band that could slip threw.
Truck was sold last year and the new owner contacted me a few months after he bought it and said the trans was still work fine.
just want to say thanks got it in great video!!!! I NEED A LIFT!!!!
Great to hear you got it! I highly recommend a lift :)
The band will roll around just turn hub while feeding band in
Excellent. I will send you both my Honda CRV's... they both need work lol :)
lol okay Jeff, come on over!
Well 2nd works .. Great fix guys .. Thumbs up !
it's second to none to have 2nd gear again :-) Thanks for the comment!
Is it possible to do the reverse band with this method? I lost reverse over winter I dropped pan there's no metal chunks fluid is pretty clean there was some sludge on the magnet and a lil very fine brass shavings in bottom of pan but looked real good everything else works overdrive and it shifts beautifully any help would be greatly appreciated
Why didn't you use a slip in band?
Excellent video. Where are you guys located?
Nice! Exactly the video I needed. Thanks.
great video. I've got an 2006 with a bad death wooble even after everything in the front end has been replaced and I do mean everything the only thing that hasn't been replaced is the axle assembly any idea what could be the problem?
I fixed mine with a new tracking arm
I did all the front end parts didn't fix it then i went and got tracking arm bushings and it fixed it till they wore out again then new bar
Shawn West check for cracks in the frame around the frame side of the track bar mount
They make a upgrade steering brace that bolts to the frame then on to the steering box for that issue
My truck shifts nice now with new front band but now it surges intermittently and feels like someone put a brake on the transmission.. The truck will surge then slow down by itself. Ugh. I only drove it around the block twice. Any guesses. I reset the TTVA, no help. I also had to put in a new solenoid because the connector broke during the install.
Mark Shanks It sounds like something is binding up in the transmission, did you adjust the band properly?
I adjusted it twice, the lever did not move as easy as your video did at 12.11, but it does have a little play. 72 in lbs and 1 3/4 turn my manual says. You say 2 turns in video. It did get a flat spot on the band when I bent the tab in the vise. Should I back it off another 1/4 turn see if it gets better?
Mark Shanks Yea I'd try that. 1 3/4 turns specified in the manual assumes a good stock band but they gave the servo extra travel to account for when the band starts wearing. If you back off the adjustment another 1/4 to 1/2 turn you're just using more of the servos travel. I'd start there, just make sure it doesn't slip under load in 2nd gear.
I backed it out 1/2 turn. It does slip now and temp went to 270 degrees on a 5 minute trip. Before normal temp was about 170. I'll drop the pan and take a look see, and make sure all the connectors are fully seated.
Mark Shanks Yea something isnt right in there, I'm thinking that bend might be causing some trouble. Easy on the trans temp, I get scared over 220 in my truck.
that's awesome where are y'all located and would you possibly be willing to do mine
Sweet. Can you do this with the band in the back? Is the band in the back for 3rd and 4th gear?
no its reverse band
Man all that work you should of changed the filter. That fluid was dirty! Good job btw kn fixing 2nd.
How long did the band last?
edzGarage working on the same thing, i can't remove the stuipid shift levers on top, i have removed both bolts do i need to spread the bottom lever alittle to get it to come up off the shaft? also, for the park rod do i need to be in a certain gear when reinstalling the VB? You guys rocked this video btw!
I like to put a flathead screwdriver between the levers to work the top one off and loosen up the lower one, you can do the same thing between the case and lower shift lever if you're careful, watch out for the seal under it though. They can be stubborn, keep working them around. As for the park rod, I usually put the rod in first and make sure park engages then put it into the VB and verify again. Be careful with the e-clip, it can be a pain.
Awesome video very informative
How do you replace transmission band lever mine broke in half
How to tell when belts need to be replaced. On 2nd gen 95.
nice work and great video!
Can the rear band be done the same way??
i just have one question... Where is the beer and weed
i'm trying this right now and i'm having a hard time getting new band in.. i bent the tab down alot and i got the band in alittle more then a 3rd but it feels like its hung up any suggestions i can pull it out so not stuck? thanxx for the video wished i had a lift hard on my bones
We really had to work it back forth with a lot of force to get it past the 1/3 point.
theres nothing up there right just case the wire must be hanging up on something thanxx how mant quarts of oil did you put back in in thinking at least 10
Not sure what's up there to hang it up. Don't remember how many quarts went back in.
Hi.. its the same procedure for replacing 42re front band? Thank you
Should be but the case on the 42RE is different and might not allow the band to fit around the drum.
Can you replace the rear band with the trans still in the truck? looks like that is what is wrong with my 97 Ram no reverse or engine break when you let off of the throttle.
No. Can't do rear band with transmission still installed. Just the front band.
Thanks alot! Very helpfull and great video :)
Transmission filter?
I don't know about your adjustments I changed the band on mine and did the adjustments now it's not drivable. After some research I've found 3 different answers on what the number of turns you back of after torquing to 71 in lb. I know the 3 and 1 7/8 made my truck undrivable.
46re is 2 1/2 on front,,,2 7/8on rear
Look at transmission bench channel. He gives the back turn # on band adjustments for 46re,47re,48 re
I wonder if this would work for a 42re ?
Dam use a pneumatic socket from harbor freight and pull it from the dip stick tube.
I have a 94 v10 with the same problem is this do able for mine as well or can I possibly just readjust the band
You could try adjusting first it's the easiest first step.
Wish I had known this lastmonth
Smashing job :-D well done :-D.
That looked like a pain in the bum, your lift is a godsend Ed :-D.
I get the impression that it wont last long, you sounded like you didnt expect the transmission to last, is it on its last legs Ed ?
The drum was not machine smooth so the new friction band has the the potential wear uneven, this uneven wear will shorten the life of the band. I think as long as he doesn't slip second gear by racing or pulling the repair should last for a good while. It is second gear, a gear you pass though pretty quickly in normal driving, so wear should be at a minimum. We will see :-)
Without a lift this would be a tedious job.
Can you do this with the rear band??
Won't work with the rear band since it's double wrapped.
was that fix worth waiting 6q of atf+4
evan miller It sure was, the truck drives night and day better, most of the fluid was reused as well. It's still holding strong with a programmer on the truck now.
Your lift isn't adjusted correctly, you shouldn't have 2 clicks ever! Means vehicle not spotted correctly or lift is out of adjustment.
You back off 2 turns on each band. Not 1 7/8, not 3. 2 turns on each 1.
Wrong, depends on the transmission, the 47RE uses a double wrapped rear band that requires different adjustment.
Not true, depends on the specific year and model of trans (46re, 47re, vs 48re) All are different, and they changed the specs every couple of years.
It's important to get the exact specs for your model as the band adjustment is critical, the adjustment specs vary wildly from one model and year to another.
i know these guys
No you don't
No safety glasses.
Only pirates need safety glasses when it's their first day with the hook.
great video. I've got an 2006 with a bad death wooble even after everything in the front end has been replaced and I do mean everything the only thing that hasn't been replaced is the axle assembly any idea what could be the problem?
Shawn West the problem is it's a dodge... I own a 2005 and will not make that mistake again. I love the truck but so many things with the truck done wrong. only thing right is Cummings engine
Did you replace strut rod bushings?
4th gen tie rod, and steering box stabilizer, maybe redo your wheel bearings and upper and lower balljoints and it should work i had the same problem to the point where it cracked my windshield but after i did that it ran nice and straight