Breaking: NGAD Jet Scheduled for 2024 - What We Know So Far
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2024
- Breaking news! The USAF has announced that NGAD Fighter contract will be awarded in 2024. In this video, I'll give you a rundown of what we know so far about the NGAD Fighter, including notional design features, how it plays into the USAF's Collaborative Combat Aircraft vision, and more.
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⏱ Key Timestamps (all timestamps listed below)
00:00 Intro
02:12 F-22 Raptor Testbeds
03:05 NGAD Weapons
06:26 NGAD Cost and Procurement
09:38 Next Evolutionary Step in Air Warfare
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All Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:27 NGAD Family of Systems
00:51 Key Design Elements
02:12 F-22 Raptor Testbeds
03:05 NGAD Weapons
03:58 Raptor Replacement
05:33 Double Delta Wing
06:26 NGAD Cost and Procurement
06:55 Collaborative Combat Aircraft CCAs and Drones
08:01 NGAD Production Strategies
09:38 Next Evolutionary Step in Air Warfare
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It was great ❤
Russia will make it better
You are out of your depth here. You don't even know that these calls for designs and trials often end up in nothing happening and even if it does there could just be calls for a second round and even after they actually decide to do something they will get samples and can kill it after that and even then you are looking at a decade or more until you start getting airplanes. You need to do some more studying on the topic before you just end up like those channels that just puts out massive nonsense clickbait over and over again.
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Your video was really cool, thanks. The one thing that REALLY concerned me was the idea of ‘stakeholders’ having input, or even access to any part of the design, parts or software of the project. Stakeholders, like Klaus Schwab and his WEF global elites, are totally opposed to freedom. They are establishing surveillance of every human in order to achieve complete control for the elite bureaucrats. They must be opposed at all cost, individual freedom depends on it. As their name suggests, Economic warfare is how they plan to achieve domination. Onboarding these diabolical socialist into projects of national security would mean the end of the free world!
I actually like this. I can already tell some people are gonna talk about dog fighting but I think the best way to explain it is thinking back to medieval times. They probably thought the evolution of combat would have sturdier armor, more effective blades, and perhaps better castle defenses. It’s hard to be 100% right but you can be on the right track. Kind of like how we evolved from swords to guns. The areal battlefield becomes less about getting close, and more about hitting them from far away. It’s much easier to hit something that doesn’t know it’s under attack so the farther away you can attack, the less likely they can attack back
I just hope these things aren't so expensive that the program gets cut short, like the F-22A. We need 200, *at least*, in my opinion. Considering the numbers of fighters that potential near-peer adversaries are fielding, we need as many as possible.
The technology and manufacturing process has come a long way in 30 years, might be some interchangeability in here, this should reduce the price of startup and sustainment.
Agreed which is why I hope we learn from the lessons of the past as well as incorporate more efficient production methods.
@@JSFGuy I sincerely hope so, and the program gets fully funded.
F-22 was cut for NGAD, so they'll keep them coming depending on competition needs from the east
@@JSFGuy not sure if I heard it mentioned here but was there something called bendable manufacturing being used for the ngad?
Despite an NGAD vaporizing an entire Russian fleet before they even detect us, I am sure we will STILL hear "But Bruh! What about dog fighting!?".
to which I say thrust vectoring and it will have guns
For real man, it’s so stupid when these dog fighting trolls appear
The idea of an NGAD vaporizing an entire fleet without being detected is a pipe dream. It will be the most advanced fighter plane on the planet, not invincible.
@@meintingles4396 Sorry you don't, but these generational improvements are incremental. They do not confer magical superpowers.
it's what the drones are for
I honestly will miss the F-22 when the time arrives. A bit of a meme with that balloon kill but still cool overall.
The A-10 with an F-22 Mark on it's side would worry me much, much more.
Not one mention that the NGAD might be equipped with a solid state laser....
Yes I read that and was stunned
Nope, that's fabricated
Yo buddy, still alive?
Next they’ll be adding electromagnetic inductors to refueling drogues to charge batteries😂😂
@@I_am_MeriumT no its not dude, the laser system has already been through a year of in flight testing, its not an offensive laser, its a defensive laser to take out incoming missiles etc. Just Google it ffs 🤦
The ngad will have two side windows? No, that’s the Darkstar from top gun.
Can't have windows exposed to hypersonic levels of heat though. And behind a wall of plasma, Radio connection is also a problem. It better be pre-programmed.
@@Gunni1972 NGAD will absolutely NOT fly anywhere close to hypersonic.
Can't wait to see it at an air show!
You won't be able to see it, it will have active adaptive camouflage
@@walkingcarpet420 haha. I hope so!
@@aviation-action If it could disappear like a Predator, that'd be awesome!
I imagine it t is unlikely that such a project would be made open to the public. Like the Stealth Projects were kept secret in their time.
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Wow so were closer now to the movie STEALTH which has similar design its astounding the technical advancements dis days.
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These 6th gen concepts certainly make full use of the latest tech... an exciting future awaits us...!
Was a concept 10 years ago. Not a concept but flying prototypes almost ready for serial production like the 6th gen B-21 is serial production right now ⚡️🇺🇲
@@larryc1616 B21 is still to have a maiden flight
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Really nice concept by the way! It's the truest to the requirements I've seen!
Another potental addition to the NGAD would be to make the plane a two seater for optimal system management capacity.
yeah ive always thought that a single seat stealth plane was pretty dumb, theres so much you can do to optimise and automate stuff
in the end having an equipment/weapons specialist on board would be amazing
How about like an 8 seater for parties and such?
@@chrisfrank8413 you say that ironically now but when we get to 7th or 8th gen (space flight) we may see fighters going extinct
@@gamingrex2930 I say it because
i'm bored, actually.
I'm retired, losing touch with current technologies, never had a design lead position (well, not on aircraft, anyway), and my interest is more aligning with a somewhat different concept than NGAD, but I tend to be in agreement. Sure, it costs weight, but so much can be done with a two-man crew, and more. AI can do so much, help with situational awareness, prepare and streamline so many actions, even fly maneuvers, combat maneuvers and missile evasion maneuvers, and of course with weapons and drones. But you want to do more, not just the same. And there will have to be humans on top of the decision loops, both decision loops, flying and systems/weapons.
McDonnell were right all those years ago, with the Phantom, because the Phantom could do more. The Israelis are right with their two-seat F-16s because it can do more. Automation doesn't help you achieve more, if you remove one crew member. And achieving more should be the goal. Complex and expensive platforms like combat aircraft and main battle tanks, make further investments, into more advanced systems, more cost effective.
Congratulations - we've come full circle to a double-delta wing; just like the paper airplane model I made in jr. high school.
I hope our next NGAD fighter looks just like the CGI model shown in this video. What a badass-looking machine.
It looks kinda weird to me lol.
Looks lame. And as a pilot, there is no way I would go into a combat zone without any cockpit windows. The survivability of this concept is absolutely atrocious.
The F22 Cost $92.7 Billion Dollars adjusted to inflation for 187 units. So $492 Million per unit. About half the cost was just R&D and the other half was procurement. So $500-$800 Million per aircraft isn't a big suprise.
It might be, once the 31 trillion debt is paid off. Oh wait, THAT is the reason, why they consider this Hollywood dream-machine. So they don't have to. Because all those "successful Billionaires" wouldn't have a dime anymore. And the FED would STILL owe every American a Pension. LOL
-- I like how its still using VOR antennas, and a little transponder antenna on the bottom... That is some attention to details!
-- Oh, wait there are some Pito-Static system shown at ~5:20!
Does that mean the "Darkstar" from Top Gun 2 was a, to use a quote from Mortal Kombat "A taste of things to come"? If the manned variant is as stealthy as it looks, I could see them as an HVT escort for AWACS and Tankers. The NGAD would be the "high" in the usual high/low design philosophy, and I don't think the F-15EX is the low version. There is another design coming!!!
Honestly since they worked with the military it could be a misleading on prepose design but still close enough... Which in Top gun lore the darkstar could be a demonstration model for one of the concepts.
Drones are the 'low' part of the mix
NGAD is high, F-35 the workhorse, and then drones (as well as any legacy fighters they keep) for the low
like the B2, they dont have rudders, but they use the outer flapperons to have yaw control
The important thing is to buy enough of these airplanes to produce economies of scale in building the airplane and the production of repair parts. In the long run - economies of scale would have saved a lot of money if we had bought more B2s. Which had a per unit cost of around $250 million. The other $750 million were research and development costs that we don't get back by building fewer airplanes.
Yes, they at very least need to build enough to get the processes down solid, so if something pops off we know how to increase production rapidly. I have no idea if 200 is enough to do that, but it doesn't sound like much.
Interesting video, my friend. 👍🏻👍🏻
The various concept aircraft look amazing.
Hopefully the NGAD, along with the Navy’s program (FA-XX?), will bring a level of performance and weaponry to the skies that will even surpass our expectations. The possession of a reliable and powerful laser weapon would assure the superiority of the NGAD.
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FA-XX is the Navy program. It will use much of the NGAD, like the engines, but with an airframe designed for use on aircraft carriers
@@johnbeaulieu2404, thanks. I realized my mistake after posting. Mind was thinking one thing while fingers typed another. 🤣
It occurred to me yesterday that starting with the F-35 and now NGAD, the concept of air to air combat that really began with the F-4 Phantom, which was originally meant to rely solely on A2A missiles at greater distance, has finally evolved to the point that it is a reality, largely because opposing aircraft won’t even know they’re in a fight.
Nothing but awesomeness at its finest!!! This looks exactly like the one that was in the beginning of the new top gun movie.... a mock up that could be a very real aircraft
I heard that the Air Force is only planning to buy about 200 of the crewed version of this aircraft. Supposedly the thinking is to avoid big, slow, expensive programs like F-22 and F-35, and instead focus more on flexible development. There should be a newer version, either upgraded or even a new model, developed much more quickly than previous programs.
"Flexible Development" IS, what made the F-35 what it is now.
@@Gunni1972 Flexible as in this jet won't be here as the primary fighter for 40 years. Remember the Century Series from the 1960s? The discussions I've heard from the USAF are about returning to something more fast and agile like that.
Bring on the exotic UFO sport models and dump all propulsion systems.
As far as that model, I would add the S-shaped intakes that have been a staple of modern design. Even if the sheaths covering the engines, I’d imagine the NGAD would still have the S-shapes to ensure no angle could reveal a non-stealthy surface
Bad Ass!!! This tech was on the drawing boards in the 90s ! Glad to see IT'S HERE NOW!!!!!
This was obviously the inspiration for the design of the Darkstar hypersonic plane, in the movie Top Gun: Maverick.
Nope, that was inspired by the SR-72, a hypersonic recon aircraft currently in development.
@@xanderbackus447 It has an oversized wingtip, just like the Darkstar. The SR-72 have a normal sized wingtip. And it is also tailless, just like the Darkstar. But the SR-72 has a tail. Go look at the comparisons.
This is some Ace Combat stuff right here. All we need is the mandatory hyper-advanced superweapons.
We're already getting laser cannons
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This is a great presentation. Really hoping this works out. Reducing production costs, philosophy of de emphasizing dogfighting with speed/range/standoff range for an Air Superiority fighter. Mixed with dog fighters these will be deadly.
Think AF acquisition is under new leadership as the finally seem to get what's important.
More optimistic about the AF than I have in a long time.
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I saw a concept where instead of dogfighting it was focused on more area denial, through DEWs. Or should I saw volume denial, so that nothing can get within a bubble of particular radius around the aircraft.
Here’s an idea… have pop up tails! They got swing wings on various fighters so why not? Stealth most of the time and manoeuvres when required.
They talk about retiring the F-22, but I bet they’ll be held in reserve for quite a few years afterwards.
F22 isn't going anywhere. It will be used for a long time.
@@Counterpoint_Apologetics Yeah even if for training
Some of the shiny stuff is radar dispersion rather than absorbing. It takes in energy of one frequency and re-emits it at multiple frequencies, which is more effective at dispersing energy while still reducing the return at the single frequency the radar is looking for. Also by spreading the power over multiple frequencies it takes advantage of the inverse-square losses. It's a silver-graphene meta-material derived from the same technology used to make RFID tags. (Think of the same film being etched and laminated together, but not stamped out to make the individual tags.) Another advantage over RAM coatings is that it goes on as an applique and deals with wear and tear a lot better.
Do I have much to go on to prove it? Not really, but the tech exists to do this and such principles could be tested to confirm effectiveness of that approach.
Couldn't they just use radar that uses multiple frequencies?
You are making an assumption that all their RADAR systems are single frequency. Such assumptions tend to come around and bite where it hurts.
That's almost as bright as thinking that an operator can fly a fighter level aircraft from far-far away. Latency will make that hazardous. At best, an operator can give general orders to a local AI that can then fly the drone ìn combat. The best way to actually have a remote operator help the local pilot would be for the remote operator be close enough for latency not to be an issue and sufficiently far away to be reasonably safe. Defining "low latency" and "reasonably safe" would have to be defined on the battlefield.
This thing has been pumped up so much I really don’t think it can live up to the wild expectations.
I literally stopped it at 5:51to see what it looked like doing a cobra manuver, it was cool.😊
Ceramic coatings are actually much cheaper to reapply and recoat between missions as well as detect where recoating needs to be applied. Along with the ability to calculate the loss of cross signatures on crafts on each mission.
Still gotta do it, and Time is money.
Ceramic coating is old hat. Think spray on palladium and graphine similar to a catalytic converter. Also the exotic metals used for the panels.
If this guess work is accurate I wonder what measures the craft will take to counter electronic jamming because systems loss would likely mean catastrophic failure of the ship.
More important than a high top speed is a high cruising speed. Much more important to cruise without afterburners at mach 2 than to burn extra fuel for a minute or two to hit mach 2.5. You get to the target faster, you get there with a stealthier thermal profile, and you exit the contested airspace both faster and stealthier while preserving your combat range.
Basically, go as fast as possible while using the least amount of fuel as possible is the holy grail, and sacrificing some top end speed for high super cruise speed is a VERY valuable tradeoff.
It incorporates the ancient philosophies for when you get into a fight: RUN and HIDE.
We will still see Russians make "who would win?" videos comparing random sovjet era planes with this one.
Make a plane that keeps up with MIG 25 or Mig 31 speedwise. Not saying The A-12 or SR-71 wasn't, But they were made with Russian Titanium. Which would be pretty rare in a war against them. (At least for USA).
@@Gunni1972no one need mach 3 fighter plane anymore
I always thought that the F-22 was a mistake from Groom Lake, but it pushed state of the art in many areas. Although the cost will be very high, this new aircraft might be the answer.
the 23 was better
There are several mockup already built like Darkstar from Top GUN 2, Navy A12 bomber and F23 Blackwidow. Many needs a update Demo Avionics, reconfiguring flight controls (chopping the tail fins) and adding the updtodate engines..
Great video, great content.
Its curious that nobody seems to have tried a retractable tail.
Maneuver when you need it, hide it when you need that range and stealth.
Probably too many moving parts
Its simple, it wont be as strong and will not tolerate high g forces/pressure/speed or turn as good i.e less performance. Its a similar concept as foldable wings.Nobody wants that in a 6th gen air superiority fighter. Not to mention the extra weight/cost/parts/complexity/risk etc
So the X-02A/S Wyvern/Strike Wyvern from Ace Combat?
just like in that one piece of concept art from the acquisitions report that one year you mean?
@@nerdsamericashorts4887 That Aircraft can do 50g's easy
I remember I had a model called the " Aurora " That was a highly secret Spy plane .. This was back in the 70s.. go figure..
Aurora was a supersonic Mach 4-5 spy plane that replaced the sr-71 back in the 80's-90's. It is obsolete now with hypersonic missiles. It will shortly be replaced with a hypersonic AI autonomous drone spy plane.
Excellent presentation and graphics!
2:18 perhaps that coting will deflect energy based weapons
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The single biggest reason you place the pilots windows to the sides is due to heat from the nose cone. This is a result of the ability to super cruise and or much higher speeds. Stealth as it is now can't fly at higher then mach for any length of time due to the carbon fiber skin peeling. The new stealth coming on line has a ceramic outer coating that wont peel due to heat and excessive speed which means the new stealth aircraft can go much faster for longer. With the Distributive Aperture System DAS the pilot doesn't need to see to the immediate front as long as the DAS is working.
Let’s see. Just as long as a computerized aperture vision system is working, the pilot is able to actually see.
What could possibly go wrong?
one of the biggest gripes about the f22 was its cost and they backed out of getting the amount we started out to get we need more than 100 plans when air power is one of the most important things in war .
Mirrors reflect light, rather than absorbing it, making them useful against both infrared sensors and directed energy weapons.
Since the f22 wasn't exported, this was a problem for costs. I'm guessing the ngad won't be exported either. How will they work around the cost issues with these? Beautiful video.
I can see three reasons why it won't be exported.
1. This is probably going to be the most advanced fighter to date. This is tech we probably don't rival actors, China in particular, having so the closer to our nose we can keep it, the better.
2. It's going to be expensive so many of our allies probably won't be able to buy one.
3. Any of our allies that could afford to have one, are involved in their own 6th generation goals so it's unlikely they'd want one from us anyway.
@@mill2712 But you didn't answer how they will budget the program when the f22 got shut down for being too expensive. Is there just more justification now to spend like this now?
@@OrangeCrush1981 The F-22 budget was not the only reason it was shut down. By the time the F-22 came out in 2005 the US didn't recognize any other nation as a big threat to us. We had already been at war for four years and we were more concerned about fighting insurgencies. It made people question why we needed more expensive fighters to fight terrorists.
With Russia becoming very aggressive and the rise of China and other countries, we need these kind of fighter jets again. Also all of our fourth gen jets are getting too old. We cant keep pushing it back anymore.
@@OrangeCrush1981
That is actually a large concern and I'll try to address it.
If I were to guess, I'd believe that a breakthrough and streamlining in tech used in the older 5th gen or improved manufacturing techniques could reduce cost. Such as newer and cheaper RAM coatings, newer and more efficient adaptive engines, or breakthroughs in 3D printing could help reduce cost in parts and maintenance.
Not to mention I've been following news about some members of congress paying more attention to how our major defense companies overcharge our military for its supplies. Hopefully that actually goes somewhere and doesn't just fade away again especially with China and Russia acting out recently.
That's all I can think, if it isn't satisfactory to you, then I apologize as this sort of stuff on how the military spends its money is outside of my scope.
@@OrangeCrush1981 you’re missing the entire point. the f22a didn’t even need to be expensive. it was only expensive because the government allowed the military industrial complex to consolidate, something that presidents have been warning since ww2. once 5 companies controlled the entire market, they were able to charge whatever they wanted. price gouging is a huge issue in the military industrial complex. they’ll charge the gov $750 for a $30 part. they do it because they’re the only competition in town.
Where is all this information coming from? So, we got a 2024 number, and the rest is all just speculation? 😅
Yeah I really don’t get any of this information. I haven’t seen many of these points made anywhere
BreakingDefense released a story on this 10 days ago. Initial buy of 200, open architecture, and adaptive engines are all confirmed. 'Several million per copy' is speculation on the part of an industry analyst, but it is quoted there. The rest is speculation on 'Tog's part as far as I can tell.
@@GoSlash27 We were supposed to buy 750 F-22s, we ended up with a quarter of that, so unless something has changed in defense procurement (which it has, it's gotten worse) since then we'll end up with about fifty of the planned two hundred, half of which will be out for service at any given time.
@@cugamer8862 Yup. No argument from me :) It seems our defense industry has perfected the art of producing fighters that are too precious to risk in actual combat.
@@cugamer8862 It's tough to argue with fascinating logic. I might mention that F-22s were halted because the 1980s cold war conditions that started it were over, and the USA has still had no competition and no need for more F-22s. Also, there are now more than 900 F-35s with far more advanced technology. Also, the money saved on the F-22 has gone into NGAD development to stay ahead of China and Russia, who are finally starting to produce more advanced aircraft. What would've been the purpose of more F-22s with NGAD expected this decade? So, if you ignore all conditions for decision-making surrounding the need for F-22s, F-35s, and NGAD, then your logic is ironclad.
Great video!
i find it funny that they took time to animate it with the radar reflectors.
If the NGAD looks like anything other than the X-44 Manta I'll eat a sock.
You're going to Walmart to buy a pair of sock to eat?
You might regret those words homie, I bet that shits gonna look like an alien tic tac
I suspect that NGAD is going to be a much larger aircraft than the F-22 or F-35. Given the capabilities it's supposed to have, such as controlling multiple drones, a crew of two minimum is probably required. Add to that the need for additional fuel, the aircraft pretty much has to be big. In fact, something almost like the proposed B-1R (heh heh) might be a better model than the F-22.
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With all the proposed supporting drone wingmen at the NGAD’s disposal, hopefully it’s a two seater aircraft so the pilot workload can be split. The WSO or copilot can be the one managing weapon systems and the drones.
Would be fun to see how the NGAD crawls to below supersonic, to keep the drones in control range. Airplanes designed for speed usually don't do too well at slow speeds. Would be easier to make the Drones hypersonic to be honest.
AI helping out
I proposed a mirror surface 50 years ago, and not for some juvanile reason like it would LOOK COOL. But the hopes of the reflection of multiple waves and wave lenths?
Are we also increasing security? Because there seems to be nothing we can build that China cannot steal and copy.
Take this expensive, deadly aircraft, add AI, and you have Sky Net and the end of humanity. Good going you greedy bastards.
China commits flawless corporate espionage ALL the time but the US is pretty good about keeping our military stuff shut tight.
Yes, I know for a fact that we are improving communications and data security because I work in that field. Whether it'll be enough... I dunno. Offense and defense always evolve over time to counter each other, and the Chinese are very good at what they do.
Its fucking absurd, they probably all ready know more about this program than the DOD do…
I remember when the Secretary of the Air Force announced NGAD. One of the driving priorities was a less expensive platform than F-22 or F-35 with less capabilities so they could procure it in high numbers to fill out the fleet. So much for that, I guess. From what you're saying, the NGAD has bloated into yet another pink elephant program.
It goes up in the air, downs $1,000,000,000 in enemy aircraft or facilitates a precision strike on their most vital and guarded assets, then comes home completely unseen... and we're supposed to be upset because for the same price we could throw up more F35s or Eagle IIs, which couldn't do nearly the same? Just not seeing the lost economy.
The USAF has stated they want only F-35’s, F-15EX’s, F-16’s, and NGAD’s in their fleet. Doing a fighter aircraft this advanced will never be cheaper than what’s current.
@@tieck4408 It's not a matter of 'lost economy', it's a matter of strategic uselessness. When you have a fleet of 200 top-of-the-line fighters (and that's optimistic at this price), there aren't enough of them to fight a war. Furthermore, the few that we *do* have will be too expensive and loaded with top secret technology to risk in combat over enemy territory. What we *need* is what NGAD was originally intended to be; cheap, effective, and attritable.
@@GoSlash27 How is 200 (+ fleetS of F35s + many high-end UAVs) not enough to fight a war? NGAD supposedly has an XL payload and dominates beyond the horizon. Why build more aircraft that are less effective, even combined, yet still have to be sustained, maintained, and piloted? Why sign up for SEAD and DEAD missions you could have skipped? And just what are China's 200 J-20s gonna do about... even just the Navy's Super Hornet fleet, much less 50 NGADs or 100 F35s?
Look, North Korea has almost as many active personnel in their military as the US. Does that mean, numbers to numbers, we're dead anyway? Screw armor and artillery, screw expensive body armor, we need more privates?
@@tieck4408 I already explained to you why it's not enough. Wars are not won by the side with inadequate amounts of superior technology, they're won by the side with overwhelming amounts of adequate technology. NGAD is going to be the world's most advanced fighter (for a time), but it would be pretty much useless in a war. Too advanced and priceless to risk in actual combat. You lose, say, 3 of them (they're advanced, not invincible) and you're out a billion dollars, a sizeable chunk of your force that you can't replace, and your opponent gains access to all your secret tech.
Not that it would ever get that far, mind you. There's no way Congress will be willing to fund this at this price.
As a aircraft mechanic its vital the pilots be able friggin see.
Ymore on the tail wings. Thanks greatly explained.
I expect there will be two versions of NGAD, a short range version for European combat and a long range version for the Pacific. I expect the Pacific version to resemble a 2/3 scale B-21.
pasific is FA/XX
I expect them to never be sold. Just like the F-22. So every foreign Investment has to come through other Channels.
@@Gunni1972 Oh they're definitely not selling whatever comes out of the NGAD program. That shits gonna be America only.
@@gtr5860 FA/XX is Navy, NGAD is Airforce. No more Hybrid F-35 bull...
One small mistake in an otherwise good video; the 300 F35s (7:14) that will fly with the NGAD and the CCAs are the Block 4 (and beyond) models of Fat Amy that are built to fly with the drones. There will be many hundreds of the Block 2 and 3s but less of the most advanced version. At least that is what I read the Air Force is asking for...☺
Good point, the Block 4 lightnings are the ones that will work with the drones, thanks for commenting!
Lasers weapons are standard ?
Well done, from my point of view as a former fighter pilot and aeronautical engineer. Hard to tell exactly what is going on with classified systems, but these concepts are interesting. Amazing to think that the pilot will not see out the front, but rather through his or her helmet HUD. Is there any talk of having two crew members, to share the workload?
I think cockpit should be used as given in fifth gen jets after all what if electronic warfare environment the cameras might be jammed so an bubble canopy is required like the F 22
There’s no way for internal cockpit cameras to be jammed, as they would exist in a closed system.
Like the other guy said you can't jam the internal data links. And if the system fails you might as well go home as you are not going to be combat effective and would just be a liability.
@@JohnFrumFromAmerica fall home, more like
A weather radar could detect and track a stealth aircraft. With the correct filters and a sh*tton of computer processing especially in humidity or rain or dusty air....well actualy it dectects the aircrafts effects on the minute particles in the air. Still really hard for targeting radar to lock on tho.
While that is true for stealth fighters that have some compromise between stealth and maneuverability, that Isn’t true for all stealth aircraft like the B-2 bomber can evade low wavelength radar and the B-21 can probably do it better.
From what we are seeing the NGAD isn’t going to maneuverable whatsoever, in fact a statement(years ago so things could of changed) that the Airforce NGAD would be as big as a B-2 bomber.
Even if it’s not that size it’s obvious that NGAD doesn’t care about maneuverability and you don’t change your priorities like that this late into a program. Changing some specifications is bad enough, but changing a aircraft very role so late would cause it to be pushed back years.
I’m getting blackbird vibes off of the main design(:, I’m all for it(:
Very cool graphics!
It's gonna need a gun though!!!
Thank you I render these all on my computer - I agree it should have a gun in case things get close, the same lesson the F-4 learned, but we will have to see. Thanks for commenting!
Yes, one that does not melt or bend while being blasted with 900°F hot air while Firing.
No lie that thing is slick looking jealous asf
Nice video , thank you ...
They can make a tail that folds down into the body at speed , use it on take off and landings .
I’m surprised that this new fighter (actually a fighter/bomber) will be piloted and not a drone….
But then, the plan is to have a single, conventional piloted fighter lead a squadron of drones.
But I think it takes the romance out of being a fighter pilot when your wingman is a computer!
Stupid concept anyway. Pilots have enough to worry about just trying to fly the plane in combat, they don't need to be managing a drone wing on top of that, that's what remote operators are for. Drones can be controlled from the opposite side of the planet if desired. This "quarterback of the skies" bullshit can pack all the super-electronics you want into a bird but it won't change the fact that they guy in the seat still only has two hands.
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I was guessing since all that was said was “oh, and they’ll be drones to fill in the gaps…” but you’re right that drones can be piloted remotely.
@@biz6361 Actually the drones won't have remote operators, they'll employ AI to operate themselves. All they need is orders to follow and they'll go off and execute them autonomously. The point remains that you don't actually *need* a manned fighter on- scene to command them, and commanding drones is a distraction from the fighter pilot's main job, which is to fly and fight *his* plane.
@@robertdragoff6909 But you still have to be in control range, and that could mean, you stay in an area, where surface to air missiles could reach....
@@Gunni1972 There's no such thing as 'in control range'. Drones can be controlled anywhere in the world from anywhere in the world. Having a manned fighter in the vicinity is a luxury, not a necessity.
The same people who terminated funding for the 22 saying we would never need it are in charge of funding for NGAD.
They were right then, and will be right now.
We didn’t need more F-22s. China and Russia are scraping and scrounging to make a fighter half as good as the F-22, air superiority can still be achieved with *4th gen* fighters. In 10 years, we’ll have 6th gen. Why do we need more F-22s?
So if the F-22 has large vertical tails and has the radar signature of a BB how much return does NGAD have.
Magnificent! Like a manta ray in the sky!
My question is: if the NGAD is super fast and super stealthy and have incredible range, wouldnt the drones also have to be super fast and have incredible range or what is the point. Couldn't you just use the drones as standalone drones without the "mothership" in that case.
Drives can be both disposable or survivable. The first will have minimal sensors, so will need guidance via datalink from mothership or AWACS. The second ones will still be inferior sensor platforms. You should view drives as external weapons, specialized ecm, fuel trucks.
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul It's gonna be hard drives. the way you talk. BOT?
Drones can be hacked and jammed,and they also cant addapt to different situations like a human can
What happens when 2 5-6th gen fighters go against each other? Most likely, neither of these fighters will be able to detect eachother easily and will end up within visual range engagement. Even if they can detect eachother well before visual range, if they can't get a weapons grade lock until their are a few miles apart then whichever fighter is most dominant in close range will have the advantage.
How naive of you to think that you know something better than the military.. Of course theyd have a better radar that can detect enemy stealth.. Theyre not dumb..
@@spongememefunnypants9101 Yes they are.They still send people to war.
Dogfighting is an era of the past , we must find the type of aircraft like if an F-35 vs for example a NGAD fighter , they are almost the same , the 6th generation concept is about drone escort , intelligence and true stealth , beyond visual range missiles like AIM-260 jatm . 6th will most likely win with superior stealth and capabilitys
And radar is improving though , stealth aircraft are not detectable in high frequency radars but is seen in low frequency radars but low frequency radars can’t guide a missile and only high frequency Radar has enough targeting to guide a missile that why you must prioritize on key dectction like radar signature , heat signature , ……. Since most air battle are long range it mostly to focus on radar signature and minimizing them .
This is exactly what I worry about. Why do I feel like we're about to just repeat the mistakes of the 60's
The problem with using drones is that they will have to have the same or more range than the controlling NGAD. That means that the drones are going to have to be huge in order to have the ranges necessary. Also, drones are going to have to have equal or greater than the speed of the NGAD. That is a very tall order as all drones being tested today don't have either because they don't have the range or the speed of a projected NGAD unless there is a classified program we don't know about.
The most advanced loyal wingman drone being developed in Australia with help by the US don't have the necessary range, stealth, or speed to support an NGAD fighter with the limited information we have today.
But then again, we have no idea what is being developed in parallel with the NGAD.
There are shenanigans afoot. I think they've trained neural nets to be competent fighter pilots.
NASA currently uses the 'spread out the costs' model for building space hardware. It has resulted in some large cost over-runs (SLS, new crawler, etc). So how would the DoD - Masters of Cost Over-Run - save any money using such a model? Seems it would be more about causing the project to be harder to control costs or cancel (since there would be a contractor in everyone's Congressional district).
So long as America has nuclear umbrella obligations then they will continue to require manned delivery platforms.
Like the B-21? (Problem solved). There will never be an airplane, that outspeeds a Missile. that's just an obvious fact.Even if NGAD does MACH 12, The ICBM does Mach 24-25. And you'll probably be hit by it, before you know if NGAD delivered it's payload.
That's what the B-21 Raider is for
Hmmmmmm I guess intercontinental ballistic missiles with glide bombs don’t exist.
Several hundred million each. With a minimum number for an effective fighting force of 200, and 200 million USD each totals to 40 billion USD--maybe even double that or more--plus the research and development costs. Some will see this as horrifically exorbitant.
Ask yourself this: what would be the price of NOT having available such sixth-gen aircraft? And those following? How will the USA and our trading partners, many also our defence allies, in two key theatres (already seeing enormous politico-economic and politico-defence pressure) defend our international markets, sealanes, flight routes, etc.?
Even more, do you suppose that these rivals and potential threats are not going to continue to develop their own techno-military advances? The shifts in economic power should they supplant what the USA and our partners-allies would have at that time will dwarf several HUNDRED-fold that $40-80B in my example above. Yes, we would risk losing annually trillions in market share, volume sales, etc.
The NGAD is a hedge against this potential outcome. For that reason is it a bargain.
OTOH, it's not us you have to convince. If Congress balked at F-22 and F-35, there's no way they're gonna buy this.
Do you think providing healthcare to Americans and better education would save less lives than more military spending going to huge corporations?
^ That is surely the argument that Congressional Dems will use to justify their 'no' votes. Deficit hawk Republicans will also reject it simply for being too expensive.
@@williamwchuang , the way out of poverty is through 1) a living wage through gainful employment; 2) home ownership; 3) health care through the workers citizens voters taxpayers homeowners consumers being able to afford private carrier insurance one buys through a pool that negotiates for the purchaser the best value, 4) workplace advancement through education, e.g., a university degree or comprehensive advanced training; 5) performance based profit sharing of one's employer any parent company, 6) buying investments toward one's retirement, etc.
I would explain to the super wealthy that coalescing wealth into fewer and fewer hands is counterproductive for the economy because it strangles the free markets of necessary capital for investing in new businesses, research and development, worker training, etc. This is explicitly anti-capitalist, and therefore a threat to the United States of America and its citizens.
I call my approach "citizen-centred capitalism".
It'll be interesting to see how close these consept animations are to the real thing.
Draken shoutout! LETS GO!
all fun and games till the cameras start lagging
As the aircraft is shown on this video, thrust vectoring would not be an option in contrast to what he said.
Straight outta Ace Combat universe
Thank you for updating us of the 6 generations. Would this ngat have laser as one of its weapons
Check out the new Mutant Morphing Missile. The B21 accompanied by the NGAD fighters that are accompanied by drones is a scary thought. Especially when they will be carrying the new ram jet hypersonic missile, possibly the morphing missile, and possibly armed with a laser.
the making the ace combat 3 COFFIN system irl 💀
Do you have any info, or plans to make a video of the Navy's F/A-XX?
Indeed - stay tuned!
Realy I like this powerful jet