I've struggled with shellfish attraction from a very early age. Lobsters, shrimp, oysters... But now I only eat beef and chicken, so I know I'm going to heaven.
I believe that if you believe yourself to be gay, and are contemplating making a 'change', you are one of two things, you were not in-fact gay to begin with, or you are suffering an on-going pretence. Personally I believe that the lifestyle can be encouraged from and by a manner of the life a child has or hasn't. But I am also of the opinion that 'gayness' unquestionably has got some genetic marker; meaning; there is an as yet undiscovered biological component which turns up in-utero. It seems more than a little odd that were this true that surely this would have surfaced somewhere clearly by now. Very stange. Somewhere where they are not looking for it possibly. Sally was the best host of the dozen contemporaries of her's. Always professional. Respectful. Classy lady.
Maybe just maybe hetero is not the default and bisexuality is really the reality for most people. We are just socialized to think it is one way. If someone can “stop being gay” they probably are just denying 1/2 of themselves. It’s a spectrum. Read the science.
This was canceled by distributor USA Studios in 2002 due to the fading popularity of talk shows....and yet Jerry Springer and Maury been on for 21 years now.
As a lesbian, I wish badly I could be straight or bisexual because my dating pool would be so much bigger. The lifescript is written out for straight people already--men hit on women without a second thought (happens to me a lot). I've tried but I'm just not wired that way. Even with increased acceptance, being gay or lesbian is still not easy. Religion has nothing to do with it for me. My ex left me for a man after 12 years together. She lied about her orientation for all those years--we discussed it a LOT because I had an intuition. Nothing hurts more than a lie of that magnitude. It's not just betrayal...it's having your whole reality turned upside down by someone you trusted. She made me feel paranoid & crazy for thinking she liked men. Gaslighting, they call it. But I was right all along. Don't think I'll ever get over it. That's another thing: If you're lesbian & don't want to date bisexual or trans sexual women, you're considered bigoted. But everyone is allowed to have their preferences when it comes to intimacy. Nobody owes anyone their affection or attraction so I refuse to let anyone shame me about mine. But again, my dating pool shrinks by eliminating those people from it. It's a sad existence in my experience.
It's so sad that people feel that there's something *wrong* with their sexuality to the point that they have to spend time, money, effort and heartache on changing it. Generally it seems to be religion or parental expectation.
+cdgh99 I looked up the two guys from exodus and they are still denying their natural sexuality and trying to be straight, the guy in the middle has a gay twin brother.. lol.
one of the guys named nate spoke at my youth today he’s been married to a women for 15 years........i don’t think the message he sent today was good he pretty much said if your gay talk to me you can turn straight...not ok
I miss Talk Shows like this and Ricki Lake...because they talked about controversial issues for a full hour and got dialogue going! Now, shows like The View will talk about issues like this for two minutes...then talk about The Kardashians for the rest of the show...
The gay Southern Baptist minister is awesome. I'm not religious, but this is what I think religious people should be like. Not necessarily gay, but accepting of others and, almost more importantly, themselves.
about the changing: why do they make it look like some major change into a healthier lifestyle? like "Im no longer addicted to alcohol" "I no longer lose my temper" "the doctors said I´d never walk again. But today I do!" ???
The best you can hope for with one of these ex-gay programs is going from openly gay to horribly repressed. Love is central to the human experience. We ALL deserve to experience it in its true form (with other consenting adults). This kind of lifestyle is equally harmful to the closeted person's hetero partner because it denies them of mutual love.
Webster's Definition for LOVE is **a feeling of strong or constant affection for a person. : attraction that includes sexual desire : the strong affection felt by people who have a romantic relationship** WHERE does it say that is has anything to do with RELIGION??? 0_o
A lot of these religious types want/wish for a good "Christian/Bible based" nation, just like how we have many Islam/Koran based countries and one (Israel) Jewish/Torah based country. If so, does this mean homosexuality must be a death penalty offense? After all their go-to verse for denouncing homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13) insists upon it.
OMG they should bring all this classic talk shows back - great topics! They should have a special tv channel talked "classic talk" or shows. OMG...this shit is great nothing like today! Todays talk shows are shit.
This pastor's logic doesn't make any sense. First of all, the verses from Leviticus were part of the law, and that only applied to the Jews. Anyway, later he says, "You don't live by every word of the Bible; no one takes it literally." The Bible says that you should not be quick to anger. So if someone struggles with a bad temper, does that mean they're not taking the Bible literally. Of couse not. Its means just that; they struggle with a bad temper.
_Sally's_ final show aired May 24, 2002 after 19 years. The series ended due to a decrease in ratings and a decline in popularity of the tabloid talk show genre across the board. These days, daytime television is dominated by the courtroom show and a resurgence of the game show genre.
only saw the first 5 minutes and already I found it hilarious. Sad to say there are people who STILL think you can make a gay person straight. Some fathers AND mothers (!) beat up their kids and terrorize them just to make their kids conform. So sad. Jesus NEVER said anything regarding homosexuality in The 4 Gospels! Why in the world would he avoid the topic if it is soooooo important. Because he really didn't care what sexuality his friends were. For God's sake, just be nice and do unto others as you would have them do unto you and you'll be okay and you'll be following God's dictates! Let's all grow up already!
I find it difficult to believe that they have genuinely changed. I'm straight, and to me it seems impossible to change to gay. I don't see that it could be any different the other way around just because the Bible tells us to live a certain way.
why is it that whenever this subject about going from gay to strait change always involves religion. they always bring in God to the subject. why cant they just do a change on their own. or do it psychologically or through medical science. what does sexual orientation have to do with religion?
I wondered the same thing, and was going to ask the same question. Why can't they just say they realized they couldn't really get into having a gay relationship and they are also an atheist. Well actually there was one to do that who was a transsexual and lived as a female for 20 years and decided that life wasn't for him/her and went back to being a male. He does describe himself as being an atheist and is still living as a male, so it happens.
I'm not gonna say gay ppl can't change...but I think 98.5% of time they are gonna change, I think for some gay folks it's a choice. Like I prefer chicken today instead of beef, but for most ppl it's ingrained and written in the DNA, and there's bnothing wrong with either one. It's a non issue, be who u are or be who you want to be. But I absolutely believe that the pray the gay away is dangerous, psychologically, abusive and that it doesn't work. And yes I believe and love God, but sexuality doesn't work that way.
@calvin smith have you ever done anything that is against the Bible? Unless you are Jesus himself, the answer to that is yes. We have all sinned, and yet we can still be Christians and followers of God because Jesus died on the cross for our sins. So yes, "true Christians" CAN be gay.
Nothing is being imposed on you. You are free to live your life as you choose. However you are saying that others should not. It is not for you to decide what is natural or not. If God did not intend for there to be a percentage of people to be gay then they would not exist. You have to take all of it like the rest of the mysterious things God does and trust that he knows better than you.
It feels like they brought the two young men from exodus to the show to be ridiculed for their faith. Why did she keep talking about them in that condescending tone? I believe they spoke with respect to the other man and also referring to what they believe in without hurting other people's beliefs. I mean I don't think their organisation kidnaps youth from the streets and forces them to change. People go there willingly the same way that gay people don't force other people to be gay with them and should be left to their lifestyle choices. This show is supposed to be about sexual discrimination but all I see is discrimination due to religious beliefs. Sorry for the long dissertation
Onyi noyi I haven't watched the whole show and I'm not trying to defend anything in it. But reading your comment, I couldn't help but notice the abstract language you used: "their faith," "what they believe in," "religious beliefs." If you had been more concrete, you would have had to acknowledge that "what they believe in" is that gay relationships are inherently evil. They have made the choice to commit to a very mean-spirited belief. Does this not disturb you too? Just this one clip has already made it clear that anti-gay bigotry is not an inevitable element of Christianity. Some Christians choose to commit to it. Some Christians, on the other hand, choose to commit to love, like the pastor in the clip.
the homosexual act , for non jews men , is forbidden too but we don t learn that from the verse in the Leviticus that is for jewsonly . He is right by saying that the old testament is only for jews and christians don t apply what is written in it . Nevertheless the homosexual act is forbidden between two men even tough they are not jews because G od told to Adam to be clung to his wife and we learn from that ''to his wife and not to a man ''
Everything God makes is perfect. So why would he reject gays? Only PEOPLE reject gays. God loves us all. If you truly believed in God, you would realize this.
Think about this.. What if you are mistaken. What if God actually does not care. What if you are making the lives of others difficult by imposing your brand of beliefs on them? YOU ARE MAKING OTHER PEOPLES LIVES DIFFICULT. Leave them alone, let them be happy, they cannot be happy otherwise, who told you that you can tell them they can't be happy? Who told you. Do not say God, because He is all about love. I'm sure God would accept gays over war any day. Now sit back down.
I am glad to see how religion has forced these people to think there is something "wrong" with them .. I honestly believe God doesn't make mistakes and loves us all for who we are, anyone who states otherwise is not someone I would be proud to call one of my children. Love is Love, gay people could careless who I sleep with and I could careless who they sleep with, just enjoy life and love even for a second, it maybe all you have.
Alright. Well I'm glad you appreciated my efforts. It is healthy for you trust in your beliefs but please be mindful of the people you might hurt even if your intentions are good. Thanks for replying.
That's all well and good but I am challenging you for a moment to question why being gay is "having ill thoughts" ? really.. think long and hard about it before you reply. Just so you know, I am Christian and straight and am not fighting for any agenda or to corrupt you. There is nothing evil to be gained from a gay relationship. How can love be bad? I just don't buy that it's God's idea that it's wrong. It can't possible be when he preaches Love. It is your right to doubt teachings of man.
In 2012, then president Alan Chambers (of Exodus) renounced conversion therapy, saying it did not work and was harmful. The following year, Chambers closed the organization and apologized for the "pain and hurt" participants of their programs had experienced. Pretty much says it all
as you can see in this last age, it comes down to whether you choose God or not. there is no fence straddling, no lukewarm love. you are either all for Him and His law and His love or you are for the devil. you'll see more and more "christians" showing their true identity as the end approaches. making their own bibles, gods, interpretations. changing scripture, using God as their goodluck charm etc. tribulation is like a final shakedown so to speak
At 00:14 he says the bible says that "practicing" homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Well, in the NIV the word "practicing" wasn't added until the 2nd edition. It's the NIV's pathetic attempt to clean-up what was already a lie with their use of the word "homosexual", by now adding even more to Scripture with the word "practicing". What a tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive.
Wow, these "ex gays" are conflicted. They're both basically saying, "I didn't choose to be gay but I'm choosing to turn straight." Uhhhhhh, yea--that makes sense. If you could just CHOOSE your sexuality then why didn't they both choose heterosexuality to begin with?? They both admit their homosexual feelings were something that came naturally to them -aka- not a conscious choice. So how the hell are they going to consciously choose to be straight? All they're doing is kidding themselves.
How sad is to see these people at this condition.... too bad they can't accept themselves for what they are ......they are treating their sexuality like an illness , unbeliavable...... being a fanatic is the worst thing!!!!!
I understand that it is hard for you to challenge and question things that you hold so close. But think about it logically for a minute. Does it really matter? Who cares? Why press on about it when you harm others more than doing any perceived "good"?. I am not like one of these idiots on here that will attack your spelling or whatever, I want you to really think about what threat does it pose and what difference does it make to the fact that God allows some people to be sterile. Nothing.
@redneon06 Just saw this on an Oprah reunion this evening, she's on a farm and still pissed that they cancelled her. She's working on a show about a woman who got fired from a talk show - LOL! And she's a frickin' PISTOL... very funny! Oh and I completely agree 100% with your comment here. These people are still gay. God created the straight, He created the gay. Period.
I loved Sally. I remember watching her all the time when I was little.
She was the best day time talk show host every. Loved her.
Same
"He's changed" (as he holds a complete boxset of Cher & Madonna albums behind his back) lmao
ikr 💀💀💀
i miss shows like sally jessy from back in tha day!!!
I've struggled with shellfish attraction from a very early age.
Lobsters, shrimp, oysters...
But now I only eat beef and chicken, so I know I'm going to heaven.
"I've changed" >>> More like "I hate myself..."
2001: I’m gay and married
2019: wait, what???
wait what?
wait what?
I believe that if you believe yourself to be gay, and are contemplating making a 'change', you are one of two things, you were not in-fact gay to begin with, or you are suffering an on-going pretence.
Personally I believe that the lifestyle can be encouraged from and by a manner of the life a child has or hasn't.
But I am also of the opinion that 'gayness' unquestionably has got some genetic marker; meaning; there is an as yet undiscovered biological component which turns up in-utero.
It seems more than a little odd that were this true that surely this would have surfaced somewhere clearly by now. Very stange. Somewhere where they are not looking for it possibly.
Sally was the best host of the dozen contemporaries of her's. Always professional. Respectful.
Classy lady.
Maybe just maybe hetero is not the default and bisexuality is really the reality for most people. We are just socialized to think it is one way. If someone can “stop being gay” they probably are just denying 1/2 of themselves. It’s a spectrum. Read the science.
This was canceled by distributor USA Studios in 2002 due to the fading popularity of talk shows....and yet Jerry Springer and Maury been on for 21 years now.
Clara Bow All the good talk shows got cancelled but they left all the trashy shows that aren't even real talk shows on tv. Smh
"I work with more underage..." that's worrying
As a lesbian, I wish badly I could be straight or bisexual because my dating pool would be so much bigger. The lifescript is written out for straight people already--men hit on women without a second thought (happens to me a lot). I've tried but I'm just not wired that way. Even with increased acceptance, being gay or lesbian is still not easy. Religion has nothing to do with it for me.
My ex left me for a man after 12 years together. She lied about her orientation for all those years--we discussed it a LOT because I had an intuition. Nothing hurts more than a lie of that magnitude. It's not just betrayal...it's having your whole reality turned upside down by someone you trusted. She made me feel paranoid & crazy for thinking she liked men. Gaslighting, they call it. But I was right all along. Don't think I'll ever get over it.
That's another thing: If you're lesbian & don't want to date bisexual or trans sexual women, you're considered bigoted. But everyone is allowed to have their preferences when it comes to intimacy. Nobody owes anyone their affection or attraction so I refuse to let anyone shame me about mine. But again, my dating pool shrinks by eliminating those people from it. It's a sad existence in my experience.
that’s how i feel
It's so sad that people feel that there's something *wrong* with their sexuality to the point that they have to spend time, money, effort and heartache on changing it. Generally it seems to be religion or parental expectation.
i miss these talk shows!!! You cannot change how you feel...we are born this way
I was once a forty year old black woman and now I'm a 22 year old asian man. I changed 🤣🤣🤣
lmao
@@wtiy I totally forgot about this comment. I identify as a broken toaster now😄
@@ladycheyne5607 :D
Would love to know if they're still 'straight'. Was there a follow up show?
+cdgh99 I looked up the two guys from exodus and they are still denying their natural sexuality and trying to be straight, the guy in the middle has a gay twin brother.. lol.
Rick Murray the two being twins and both being gay is extremely interesting 🧐
It’s just my opinion but must of been either molestation or a very domineering mother
one of the guys named nate spoke at my youth today he’s been married to a women for 15 years........i don’t think the message he sent today was good he pretty much said if your gay talk to me you can turn straight...not ok
someone ask if anyone in the family likes girls and the answer was yes the daughter
Took the words out my mouth! Thank you!
When Sincere, This Is Excellent
I miss Talk Shows like this and Ricki Lake...because they talked about controversial issues for a full hour and got dialogue going! Now, shows like The View will talk about issues like this for two minutes...then talk about The Kardashians for the rest of the show...
There is a lot of things wrong with the world. But it was never meant to be that way. We chose the wrong path.
Holy shet! Johnny boy! What a small world, bumping into you here! I never knew you were a Sally fan ;)
I miss this show too
man this show makes me feel old and ive only just turned 25........
DAMN YOU SJR AND YOUR EVER EVOLOVING HAIRSTYLES AND BIG RED EYEGLASS FRAMES!!
Lol
Lol I love Sally that last minute of the video amazing
The gay Southern Baptist minister is awesome. I'm not religious, but this is what I think religious people should be like. Not necessarily gay, but accepting of others and, almost more importantly, themselves.
Did you see that intro in the beginning starting at 1:00? Do they REALLY look like they've changed?!
This shows how much the world has changed. This shit wouldn't fly today lol.
the Sally theme song kicks some serious ass =)
I love her song
about the changing: why do they make it look like some major change into a healthier lifestyle? like "Im no longer addicted to alcohol" "I no longer lose my temper" "the doctors said I´d never walk again. But today I do!" ???
That's beautiful!
The worst kind it is an abomination, utterly detestable in his eyes.
Well considering being gay is a choice, its pretty easy to assume they can choose to be straight as well.
sally ended in 2002...they did share an audience tho
it is 2001 lol...wot year do u think it is
You can change through the word of god.
The best you can hope for with one of these ex-gay programs is going from openly gay to horribly repressed. Love is central to the human experience. We ALL deserve to experience it in its true form (with other consenting adults). This kind of lifestyle is equally harmful to the closeted person's hetero partner because it denies them of mutual love.
Sad state of affairs when ppl want to change themselves because of how the world views their lives
It is an insult to his creation of intimacy between a man and a woman. Gay marriage is not santified by God.
Too bad there's no more talkshow, that really is the end of an era. Despite the regression in public liberties I am often nostalgic about the 90's.
podcasts
why did this show end? lol
everybody watched it
LimeGreenWolf Low rating and the show was going down the springer and maury route.
lol, I'd forgotten about the lady with the black hat in the audience!
Webster's Definition for LOVE is **a feeling of strong or constant affection for a person. : attraction that includes sexual desire : the strong affection felt by people who have a romantic relationship** WHERE does it say that is has anything to do with RELIGION??? 0_o
A lot of these religious types want/wish for a good "Christian/Bible based" nation, just like how we have many Islam/Koran based countries and one (Israel) Jewish/Torah based country. If so, does this mean homosexuality must be a death penalty offense? After all their go-to verse for denouncing homosexuality (Leviticus 20:13) insists upon it.
I think some Republicans would like it that way!!??
I thought this show ceased production in the mid 1990's
No
Man, that goateed guy is CUTE!!!
OMG they should bring all this classic talk shows back - great topics! They should have a special tv channel talked "classic talk" or shows. OMG...this shit is great nothing like today! Todays talk shows are shit.
I know right!
This pastor's logic doesn't make any sense. First of all, the verses from Leviticus were part of the law, and that only applied to the Jews. Anyway, later he says, "You don't live by every word of the Bible; no one takes it literally." The Bible says that you should not be quick to anger. So if someone struggles with a bad temper, does that mean they're not taking the Bible literally. Of couse not. Its means just that; they struggle with a bad temper.
blah blah blah no one gives a fuck bout ur horrendous religious. if it weren't for dark ages rebellion u weren't gonna say such stuff
you are exactly right.
You are what you are. No one choses to be gay or straight.
damn, I haven't seen Sally in a long while.
Hm, weird. I thought Sally ended in like 96 or something
_Sally's_ final show aired May 24, 2002 after 19 years. The series ended due to a decrease in ratings and a decline in popularity of the tabloid talk show genre across the board. These days, daytime television is dominated by the courtroom show and a resurgence of the game show genre.
The season the out of control teens stopped
only saw the first 5 minutes and already I found it hilarious. Sad to say there are people who STILL think you can make a gay person straight. Some fathers AND mothers (!) beat up their kids and terrorize them just to make their kids conform. So sad. Jesus NEVER said anything regarding homosexuality in The 4 Gospels! Why in the world would he avoid the topic if it is soooooo important. Because he really didn't care what sexuality his friends were. For God's sake, just be nice and do unto others as you would have them do unto you and you'll be okay and you'll be following God's dictates! Let's all grow up already!
The beating doesn't take away the ability to love same sex rather it takes away the ability to love period.
The end is near that's so true.
the end of what?
Sally looks like a smart Baby Jane Hudson.
Lol. The recidveer man next to him can't stoop staring
Please now, don't hold it back, tell us what you really feel!
0:36
@GenXorcist1976 Wow? Really? She was an interesting lady. Thanx
I find it difficult to believe that they have genuinely changed. I'm straight, and to me it seems impossible to change to gay. I don't see that it could be any different the other way around just because the Bible tells us to live a certain way.
EXACTLY!
Bottom line , Jesus knows you and your heart. No one will get away with anything..get born again, ASAP!.
What does religion have to do with this?
And you're only born once and that's it.
Oh my goodness, that I've changed video is hilarious! Lol
all those "gay men there" and NONE of them tell Sally to get a make over! Her clothes are HORRIFIC!
Thank God these gay to straight programs are done away with. People are who they are!!
why is it that whenever this subject about going from gay to strait change always involves religion. they always bring in God to the subject. why cant they just do a change on their own. or do it psychologically or through medical science. what does sexual orientation have to do with religion?
I wondered the same thing, and was going to ask the same question. Why can't they just say they realized they couldn't really get into having a gay relationship and they are also an atheist. Well actually there was one to do that who was a transsexual and lived as a female for 20 years and decided that life wasn't for him/her and went back to being a male. He does describe himself as being an atheist and is still living as a male, so it happens.
HOW is this 2001? Check the clothes on these people!!!
With GOD.....All Things Remain PERFECT - AMEN
I'm not gonna say gay ppl can't change...but I think 98.5% of time they are gonna change, I think for some gay folks it's a choice. Like I prefer chicken today instead of beef, but for most ppl it's ingrained and written in the DNA, and there's bnothing wrong with either one. It's a non issue, be who u are or be who you want to be. But I absolutely believe that the pray the gay away is dangerous, psychologically, abusive and that it doesn't work. And yes I believe and love God, but sexuality doesn't work that way.
@calvin smith have you ever done anything that is against the Bible? Unless you are Jesus himself, the answer to that is yes. We have all sinned, and yet we can still be Christians and followers of God because Jesus died on the cross for our sins. So yes, "true Christians" CAN be gay.
I admire that Baptist minister for being true to himself
He's a brain-washed religious NUT like you. He's still GAY, he's just in denial because religion teaches HATE and JUDGING.
Nothing is being imposed on you.
You are free to live your life as you choose. However you are saying that others should not.
It is not for you to decide what is natural or not.
If God did not intend for there to be a percentage of people to be gay then they would not exist. You have to take all of it like the rest of the mysterious things God does and trust that he knows better than you.
It feels like they brought the two young men from exodus to the show to be ridiculed for their faith. Why did she keep talking about them in that condescending tone? I believe they spoke with respect to the other man and also referring to what they believe in without hurting other people's beliefs. I mean I don't think their organisation kidnaps youth from the streets and forces them to change. People go there willingly the same way that gay people don't force other people to be gay with them and should be left to their lifestyle choices. This show is supposed to be about sexual discrimination but all I see is discrimination due to religious beliefs. Sorry for the long dissertation
Onyi noyi I haven't watched the whole show and I'm not trying to defend anything in it. But reading your comment, I couldn't help but notice the abstract language you used: "their faith," "what they believe in," "religious beliefs."
If you had been more concrete, you would have had to acknowledge that "what they believe in" is that gay relationships are inherently evil. They have made the choice to commit to a very mean-spirited belief. Does this not disturb you too?
Just this one clip has already made it clear that anti-gay bigotry is not an inevitable element of Christianity. Some Christians choose to commit to it. Some Christians, on the other hand, choose to commit to love, like the pastor in the clip.
+Onyi noyi LOL.. Exodus closed.. it was a miserable failure with most of the heads coming out saying they did not stop having gay sex..
the homosexual act , for non jews men , is forbidden too but we don t learn that from the verse in the Leviticus that is for jewsonly . He is right by saying that the old testament is only for jews and christians don t apply what is written in it . Nevertheless the homosexual act is forbidden between two men even tough they are not jews because G od told to Adam to be clung to his wife and we learn from that ''to his wife and not to a man ''
Everything God makes is perfect, but the thing is God didn't make people gay. That is strictly demonic.
Everything God makes is perfect. So why would he reject gays? Only PEOPLE reject gays. God loves us all. If you truly believed in God, you would realize this.
Think about this..
What if you are mistaken. What if God actually does not care. What if you are making the lives of others difficult by imposing your brand of beliefs on them? YOU ARE MAKING OTHER PEOPLES LIVES DIFFICULT.
Leave them alone, let them be happy, they cannot be happy otherwise, who told you that you can tell them they can't be happy? Who told you. Do not say God, because He is all about love. I'm sure God would accept gays over war any day. Now sit back down.
I am glad to see how religion has forced these people to think there is something "wrong" with them .. I honestly believe God doesn't make mistakes and loves us all for who we are, anyone who states otherwise is not someone I would be proud to call one of my children. Love is Love, gay people could careless who I sleep with and I could careless who they sleep with, just enjoy life and love even for a second, it maybe all you have.
Alright.
Well I'm glad you appreciated my efforts.
It is healthy for you trust in your beliefs but please be mindful of the people you might hurt even if your intentions are good.
Thanks for replying.
yup gayer than Richard Simmons dressed up as Tinky Winky singing "It's Okay to be Gay" :)
I don't believe you can change from gay to straight. You can choose whether to "come out" or not, which is a totally personal decision.
That's all well and good but I am challenging you for a moment to question why being gay is "having ill thoughts" ?
really.. think long and hard about it before you reply.
Just so you know, I am Christian and straight and am not fighting for any agenda or to corrupt you. There is nothing evil to be gained from a gay relationship. How can love be bad?
I just don't buy that it's God's idea that it's wrong. It can't possible be when he preaches Love.
It is your right to doubt teachings of man.
OMG what is she wearing??? that video clip of the changed people just had a bunch of miserable people with fake smiles on their faces
In 2012, then president Alan Chambers (of Exodus) renounced conversion therapy, saying it did not work and was harmful. The following year, Chambers closed the organization and apologized for the "pain and hurt" participants of their programs had experienced. Pretty much says it all
I'm a bisexual minister. God loves all, no matter our sexuality or gender.
did god speak to u?
as you can see in this last age, it comes down to whether you choose God or not. there is no fence straddling, no lukewarm love. you are either all for Him and His law and His love or you are for the devil. you'll see more and more "christians" showing their true identity as the end approaches. making their own bibles, gods, interpretations. changing scripture, using God as their goodluck charm etc. tribulation is like a final shakedown so to speak
At 00:14 he says the bible says that "practicing" homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Well, in the NIV the word "practicing" wasn't added until the 2nd edition. It's the NIV's pathetic attempt to clean-up what was already a lie with their use of the word "homosexual", by now adding even more to Scripture with the word "practicing". What a tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive.
Wow, these "ex gays" are conflicted. They're both basically saying, "I didn't choose to be gay but I'm choosing to turn straight." Uhhhhhh, yea--that makes sense. If you could just CHOOSE your sexuality then why didn't they both choose heterosexuality to begin with?? They both admit their homosexual feelings were something that came naturally to them -aka- not a conscious choice. So how the hell are they going to consciously choose to be straight? All they're doing is kidding themselves.
How sad is to see these people at this condition.... too bad they can't accept themselves for what they are ......they are treating their sexuality like an illness , unbeliavable...... being a fanatic is the worst thing!!!!!
Interesting how these people have felt a need to change who they were for God. From my understanding, doesn't God love all his children?
"...he wasn't HAPPY being GAY." LOL!
Im gay and being happy!
r u? ;)
Homosexuality is normal, and has existed throughout history.
What I was referring to as "strictly demonic" is homosexuality.
what a witch. she invites people to the program and she is not impartial on the topic. funny!
Lmao, good argument. The bible also teaches the earth does not revolve around the sun. Wonder why atheism is on the rise?
I understand that it is hard for you to challenge and question things that you hold so close. But think about it logically for a minute. Does it really matter? Who cares? Why press on about it when you harm others more than doing any perceived "good"?.
I am not like one of these idiots on here that will attack your spelling or whatever, I want you to really think about what threat does it pose and what difference does it make to the fact that God allows some people to be sterile. Nothing.
OMG those POOR people in that exodus ad!!!! Utterly deluded and bullied.
you mean the paid shills who are thrilled to appear in a promo video?
The Church taught that for years...that is not in The Bible.
Not everyone believes on the bible, so your argument isnt valid.
@redneon06
Just saw this on an Oprah reunion this evening, she's on a farm and still pissed that they cancelled her. She's working on a show about a woman who got fired from a talk show - LOL! And she's a frickin' PISTOL... very funny!
Oh and I completely agree 100% with your comment here. These people are still gay. God created the straight, He created the gay. Period.
10:26, you tell 'em Sally!
I'm gay and my church accepts me 100%
And so they bloody well should x
@MrPaulVanRavenswaay i dont believe in god