About GTA V they didn't give refund even after 12 hours... I probably know which post you read, but many tried (me for example) through the automatic system and customer service but the refunds was not accepted.
I no longer feel bad about a few years ago buying the most expensive gta bundle on sale, then immediately refunding it and still getting the extra currency when i logged into gta online thru heroic games launcher cuz i already have the game on epic games for free. I don't know how that worked but meh, i can't use it now, and i didn't really lose any real monies.
@VictorSouza02 that is because it's not only about how long the purchase is ago but the time you played too. I didn't refund many games some times 2-3 in a week there you could think someday they say no to my "low fps reason". But as long I was in the time they did refund the game. 1 game I was a few minutes over the max play time and that game they didn't refund
Kernel-level anticheats are a ticking bomb. Once one of them (hopefully Vanguard) will get 0-day vulnerability, this house of cards will start to collapse. It is and will always be a security breach possibility and having BattlEye, EasyAntiCheat, Vanguard and many more active at the same time only multiplies this possibility on the PC. Anything that runs on level-0 and is not trusted OS is just dumb solution that almost always when exploited will give an option for ACE.
Didn't the world get grinded to a halt a couple of weeks ago because Windows got bent over by a kernel level software that bricked pc's? So this already happened on a bigger scale than just the gaming industry. Airports lost so much time/money.
My hope is EAC, I am getting an unusual amount of freezing from Elden Ring and I refuse to believe my system is that outdated. Then again, I am a 1070 user in Linux land, so maybe I am cursed with bad gpu support with the big green elephant.
Gabe Newell used to work at Microsoft on Windows... So his commitment for Linux is very welcome and positive and be independent of Windows platform without leave it either but making things work smoothly whatever platform the user is using (Windows, Linux, macOS).
They won't let Linux users play, but they let hackers ramp free on some games. Yes, that sounds fair. Sooner or later, they have to let us to play and enjoy these games.
I 100% agree to you. Linux gaming is getting better extremely fast, it is unbelievable where we are compared to just 5 years ago! There are still games that don't work and even games that stop working. But that was always the case, and it is getting less of an issue at least in my perception. I think linux market share for gaming will continue to grow slowly. But the growth will increase in the coming years; later it might stop at some level. I don't think it will grow undefinitely, but as gaming on linux is easier and more performant in many cases today, when people understand that many will change.
The only thing keeping valve interested in Linux is Gabe. He hates windows. When he dies and the company goes public, all bets are off. Steam will go full corpo, and fuck everyone.
Could be true but, at the same time. the Steam deck is powered by Linux and Proton exists as open source. It is profitable for Steam to continue with Linux. Of course, money under the table from Microsoft for the new CEO could be decide matters. usually does.
We could have say the same about Apple. But none of its values have dropped. So, at Valve, I think the people would continue their work, instead of abandon its (past) efforts.
@@jedipadawan7023 Gabe doesn't want the company to go public even after he's not the CEO anymore, he confirmed that in interviews. He also said multiple times he's training his replacement. Probably someone with the same mindset as Gabe has. Plus anyone who becomes the new CEO probably works there and is part of the same company culture Gabe created in the company. Which is most of the time very positive from people working there. I would be surprised if they ever go public. As their current strategy is making them shitload of money as is, while being private.
@@beni2am Oh cool! I knew not, so thanks for that. I'm not really a serious gamer so I do not follow the gaming world much but I do have an eye on the rise of Linux and Valve is critical to that right now! So thanks again.
Linux would be better to work with GOG. They are much closer to Opensource with being DRM free. Steam itself might be dying from court cases and litigation.
The "gaming on Linux is an happy accident" was pretty insulting to people who worked on solutions like Wine way before Steam came with Proton (inspired by Wine...). Also insulting all players who have used these solutions and helped by doing their best through bugs feedback. I see his point : if Steam didn't make the Steamdeck then there would be no Proton. Although it is true it doesn't mean there would not be gaming on Linux. We play thanks to Proton but mainly because it is the solution that appeared and now generates most of the usage, if an other - as efficient - solution appeared prior to Proton Steam would have use it for its deck, and if not and Proton didn't exist there would still be people working to find a way, and could have found it as Proton proves it is possible. We would unlikely be at the same level of fun (unlikely but not impossible) but it would be just a matter of time before AI will be able to code a Proton equivalent, and as Proton exists then, if used, AI will likely make it more and more efficient.
Best way to run steam games on Linux is that they are compiled against steam runtime. It is those incompetent game developers that don't setup their build pipelines to create native binaries.
AI? Jesus, it's absolutely mental we've come to the point where people put faith in AI to code complex software like proton. I'd like to see that, though.
@@BlueSparkzVideos In its current state AI wont do the job all by itself for such a complex task, but well trained it can generate a huge load of useful code to try, and it wont take long before it will be quite effective to give it a goal and let it try its own solutions by itself, learn from its mistakes and generate a functional solution after weeks of try and errors that would take months, if not years, to a competent dev. AI is a pretty powerful tool, especially when it comes to coding. And even if we stay at its actual level of performance (which is very unlikely) it already is a big development accelerator.
People need to make their own graphics API and sound API for gaming on Linux if that were to be absolutely possible, aswell as with fluent low latency as it does on DirectX, Direct3D, Vulcan, OpenGL and so forth on Windows platform. If someone is able to make a stable libraries for that then yes, I'd say it's definitely possible to recreate that same feel on a Linux operating system, the problem is that we need engineers and computer science people to work together and with knowledge and experience, they must write open source versions of that and make it for the public good instead of corporate greed like Microsoft turned to unfortunately, so that is the only way forward for gaming on Linux as it is both a challenge and sometimes legal problems intertwined with this, unless you create your own intellectual property just like DirectX but in a original way that doesn't infringe on their copyrights and so forth. Having good drivers and stability on Linux is a must to ensure stable performance while gaming on Linux. I can say that running Oldschool RuneScape on Linux and Ubuntu is a easy thing to do but to play any other games that are more demanding games, it will tax the system in so many ways and most of the games are not compatible with Linux often the anti-cheat softwares will be responsible for that obstacle, we need to somehow find a middle ground where we can bring the best of DirectX in our own written code to not infringe on copyrights but ensure maximum frames per second with stability and performance in mind, aswell as compatability layers for those libraries and so forth, otherwise I see it as a very steep and impossible task, let alone writing all of this will be a huge undertaking. But respect to those willing to take on those tasks for performance gaming on Linux. I respect those that do, as they will be our only hope to make gaming enjoyable on Linux. This is just my take on the situation, so anyone can have their own opinion on what is needed but this is what I feel. I personally think Microsoft Windows is still the best way to play games unfortunately because there's no other option to secure such high performance, but I wish one day Linux can do the same one day and if not, even better.
Why create their own APIS when Vulkan already exists? Its funded and used by many multi-bilion dolar comapanies, doing everything from the zero would be stupid and actually harmfull.
Guys, don't forget UMU launcher because that thing is based on proton and by design it should work with any any platform be it EA app, Ubisoft or which ever you use. UMU should be universal version of proton for everything. Anti cheat that works at kernel level is a problem but perhaps UMU launcher devs might surpise us. If you play single player generaly you won't have any problems but if you play online games it will solely depend on developer and what anticheat they use. I play single player games only so i will have zero issues gaming on linux.
I had a problem connecting to Helldivers 2 lobbies and I thought maybe it's my Proton layer. I've been on Linux for three months it was my first time launching it since the switch. So I discovered that I was hanging in my spaceship without a Proton layer on. Helldivers 2. Was lowkey running on Linux with no compatibility layer. Good surprise. Obviously I couldn't check how it ran in game 😂
if you don't specify which version of proton to run a game with, and it only has a windows build, it'll fallback to using your chosen "run other titles with..." option in the compatibility settings.
@@aguyininternet632 nope. Compatibility was not checked. I actually thought I had it but I had to check a box and then drop down to it. I think it might have crashed had I been able to join the lobby OR it was the reason why I couldn't join the lobby, I'm not sure yet. The game also says Steam Deck ready and I have "force a compatibility layer" on so all games have the install button so I think this might have indeed made it so, while I was unaware, still used some compatibility layer by xefault that I couldn't see on end user interfaces. My default is the CachyOS custom Proton layer but it was absent and I had to select it manually. Because it was manual, that's why I remember it well.
Even if it runs in windows, im not leting anything level 0 instaled on my win install...dafuw are they thinking? Thats barn door voulnerability in any OS
I hope Linux gaming adoption grows. And in case Microsoft and its partners would make games impossible to run on any other platform than Windows (anti-cheat at the kernel level or using a specific chip), then maybe people will make only Windows gaming machines, and use a Linux desktop distribution for their daily computing use to avoid Copilot/Recall collecting personal data in the cloud. Whenever Linux desktop users will grow, also in companies (?), gaming devs will have to publish native linux games. I hope this will happen. And/Or maybe Microsoft will have an online-only Windows OS service or its own Linux distro, which would mean that games would necessary be ported to work in a Linux environment.
I think the tipping point which makes Linux gaming work or not is the question whether developers decide to focus on Linux support first instead of Windows. This could be the case with Linux exclusives for example or games that do not support Windows initially...
When I started using Linux exclusively on my PC, I went into it knowing full well that I would be gaming on Linux at my own risk. Support is mostly 3rd party with the introduction of Proton and Lutris. Only game in my collection that is incompatible with my distro is Destiny 2. No big loss, I have The Division, Division 2, Final Fantasy XI & XIV to keep me occupied.
No one wants to spend 1~3 hours. To figure out why his game is not running on lunix. I'm a lunix for over 10 years, i don't hate it, but linux is not a good desktop system. Current windows builds are excellent. Every annoying feature in Windows 11 has solutions with a tool the fix for you or a manual registry editing you only are you going to do once, I created some .bat files to apply a lot of modifications for my liking to Windows 11. It's way better than using linux, especially if you have so many games outside Steam or you are a person who doesn't want to pay for games. I was excited to run solve compatibility issues when i was younger, but now i dont.
There is a point with some devs it stops being a technical issue and starts being a them issue. Daily Linux users forget how some people view Linux, I have friends in AAA game dev all be it the art side of things, and they still see it as that scene in the matrix where the guys explaining what he sees in the code. You have to remember that the tools they use, and their daily environments are Windows, it's prob why genres like simulations never have issues as they tend to be more programmer lead, so the awareness and internal voices for Linux are higher.
Fact is that building native binaries for consumer friendly way for Linux based desktops has not been issue for 16-18 years. It is developer issue. I do understand that if game is some multiplayer game requiring anti-cheat system is not compiled to Linux because tech savvy people don't want to install that kind of malware on their system anyways. But all single player games or games that don't require that are different thing. They should be compiled to native by default. This is not related to code in any way. It is about target audiences, are they using consoles, desktops, laptops, tablets or mobile. And also the hardware generation. There are currently three kind of hardware generations. Then the support matrix is chosen by based on lowest common denominator to get widest audience on every API/hardware/language version etc. feature, and between game code and platform there is abstraction layer so the code is same.
linux is my daily driver but i have a dual boot to a fully stripped win10 that has nothing left except drivers needed to play games, no personal files, no login to windows or google or whatever except for ubisoft, steam and ea games. I am not a hardcore gamer but it works for me
Realistically, the game support on Linux is going to get better. Steam deck has been a big success, and many developers will want to support it. And the more people start using Linux for their desktop PCs, the more incentive game developers will have to provide native support, or at least support via Proton.
EA is doing Linux gamers a favour. Those that don’t have the self control to #BoycottEA. Never fear, EA has you covered. They will boycott for you. I’m 11 years clean of EA’s slop. Feels good.
WINE / Proton / DXVK / VKD3D or whatever, they're really big projects like bro they're translating codes between 2 systems and surprisingly, it works! The thing of it is, you're translating the MAIN CODE between a CLOSED SOURCE and an OPEN SOURCE system. Do you think that it is ez? It is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it is developing by a lot of developers. If the game ends the compatibility for PROTON, the OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY will find a way. As always.
Love linux, but for gaming, it feels like a waste of time. Many games i play use mods, and thet isn't always easy or to do. They either dont work or have major jank. Plus, it is harder for pirating. It is fun to mess around but if i want to just play my games, it is windows all the way.
I didn't know that about modding. I've been thinking about going linux but I do a lot of modding and cracking. Is cracking not as simple as adding a non steam game to steam or no?
Seems fine for literally anything else. I haven't modded a game in decades myself. Or really played an online shooter or MOBA cause they're just too toxic and shit (or made by shitty devs like EA or Ubisoft).
@@vgamedude9811 It isn't that simple, and it really comes down to how to you install these games. You can go the wine/lutris route, or you can use bottles. So lets say you download a fitgirl installer, there is a chance that it might not work, like give you an error when installing. So now you need try dodi, or perhaps use bottles for the app installer. Lets say you get it to run like awakened for Path of exile. Sometimes it works, other times I need to alt+tab in order to get it too run properly. And this is using an AUR which should be better than emulation. Like I get it, most people that praise linux gaming do so from a steam deck pov. That you download the game from steam and install and play. But that isn't a true PC gaming experience. PC gaming is about freedom, different store fronts, launchers, accounts. From modding to cracking, hosting servers, and everything you can imagine. Linux doesn't allow for most of this.
I have been using Unreal Engine since 2018. Or rather, I used to. Now that I am aware of these statements from the CEO of Epic, I will no longer use it. By the way... I will only use tools that run on Linux. Thank you for sharing.
I was gaming on linux before proton. Heck, i was gaming on linux before i had a steam account. I will be gaming on it if steam and proton go away. They are a welcome addition and it has improved gaming on linux but In all these years the only thing that has changed is the expectation that linux will take over. It will not and it doesnt have to.
I now play Star Citizen exclusively on Linux with Lutris, It works really well. and the vast majority of steam games work on Linux with no tinkering required. The only games I have issues with are mods, most of my mods have issues on Linux but not all of them.
Linux has a future, 99% of the web and data centers are running Linux, as technical skills increase and Microsoft keeps pulling their bs Linux use is only going to increase the growth has already been massive
Let's be honest. Unless the game devs actually take a stand to support proton or anticheat layers that are available on Linux, we just pray that Valve has enough money to burn on making anything possible to keep as many games possible playable in Linux.
Fun fact: You can also lose access to your games on windows. For example multiplayer games that run on game servers provided by the devs. If they decide to shut down their servers... You are screwed as well. If Rare decides that Sea of Thieves is no more... well... no access to your game... Just saying...
His videos title and contents were chosen because they would generate stress and misinformation across the community which for the creator = clicks. Shit titles like that alone will put people off from even trying Linux. We don't need crap like that.
My daily driver is the Steamdeck, I havent had any trouble running games. I dont think the Steamdeck is underpowered but it definitely is not the most powerful pc. The thing that makes it amazing is its running software on hardware made but the software makers so its an incredible out of the box Linux experience. :D (Ive also run Linux Mint and Endeavour OS, Steam OS has been the most beginner friendly Linux experience )
I remember playing GTA Online on Linux like it was nothing. Good thing I stopped before they broke the Linux part. BattleField V on my side also stopped working (same to other EA games like the PVZ series). Valve refused a refund as I have played BF V for more than 2 hours (4 hours overall).
to be credible in the eyes of the big game publishers, linux would have to reform itself already, in particular to have only 4-5 distros max, with developers and a solid community behind them. the software as a whole could also benefit. in short, as long as you're not visible, you remain insignificant.
I think it's because M$ changed is business model with Windows and made it way more accessible. Also there is industry wide long term decline in motivation to do things for free.
Dude, since last two weeks I am on Garuda and I am MS Azure engineer so my work is completely within Microsoft environment.. Yet transfering workflow was not that painfull ... just tweaks here and there
The anti-cheat thing is dumb. I'm on linux, but if I WANTED to cheat, I WOULD cheat. I'd hide my VM as a VM, run windows, and use cheats from the linux side through it. Or I'd just cheat in the VM. I don't WANT to cheat. I just want to play the game. Cheating is for single player games and co-op games when you mod them to lessen grind or make the game harder.
02:53 they will remove stuff in PS games as well for multiplayer features. What to do about it, don't play multiplayer games and you won't be affected, patch the games to not ping the servers for single player games and you're good.
Its not about money back, but about to take your part of the freedom to play it on Linux!!!! And specially when it works! R* broke what was working thats why is there big halo of it.
Linux coming along nicely, i mostly offline game and wish i could set up steam library more easily on non c: HDD and then there's mod issues. As for other cheat issues i'm sure they'llcwork around it
Does anyone even ask why "anti-cheat" custom software even exists? What purpose does it really even serve? Shouldn't the software itself be coded in such a way to detect any issues? The problem is people who are obviously very sad children if they must resort to cheating.I don't play multiplayer and prefer single player games and many I've had no issues with playing through on Linux. I also play a lot of indie and old games which run fine. Most recently played through Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 which were great.
Don't panic. Just because GTA and the like don't allow Linux users access doesn't mean we can't play games. There will be solutions for that at some point.
i switched to linux probably around a year ago. bouncing from arch, to manjaro, ubuntu, pop, fedora. but found my sweet spot in pop. But games that require an AC like cod or battlefield i'll just go play on my xbox. I'm not loosing anything really yeah it sucks not to play it on pc anymore but still atleast both the games have 120fps option for xbox.
I disagree on one issue: players are players and have multiple accounts (also because accounts are free), for example I have steam, epic, gog, ubisoft connect and EA. I don't know anyone who only has steam, even the owners of steam decks that I know can still have the same platforms via lutris or heroic launcher. I can still agree on the fact that valve started it all, but the comparison between thousands of players and millions of players is not correct, most of them use everything, exactly like under windows.
OK, here’s my point if steam stops proton development or doesn’t release a new steam deck they might as well close the doors and shut down the company because most people who are on windows will get their games through an Xbox all access subscription. What is the point of buying steam games when you can get them from Microsoft? The reason why people like steam is because it is cross platform. And they know it!
I can't game on Linux until I can load a custom monitor EDID file using the AMD GPU with CachyOS defaults. Limited TV Range with uneven refresh rates isn't something I like.
Linux gaming: - Some games don't work (Anti Cheat) - If you have top end hardware: OS doesn't matter - if you have lower-/mid hardware: Linux is often faster or smoother, depends on the game and your hardware. Personally I play with a R5 3600 and an RX 6700 XT and I have a lot of problems with the AMD graphics drivers. Its possible that its also PBO causing issues but honestly I have reinstalled the drivers so many times and on Linux its just so much more enjoyable, that I don't care to test anymore. Especially in DX11 titles, the Vulkan frontend causes games to be so much more smooth than DX11, where you have to play for hours for shaders to compile and cache. Which would also not be an issue if crashes didn't sometimes cause Windows Update to overwrite your drivers, which is solved by DDU & reinstall drivers & then cache is gone again. Example: Shadow of the Tomb Raider has critical bugs for Radeon 6000 series cards that cause crashes as explained above, while I have had no crashes whatsoever playing the game via Heroic Games Launcher on Linux I'm sure there are other experiences but to me Linux gaming is actually more fun than Windows, though I do game less because my tinkerer heart is often configuring stuff in the meantime...
Sometimes i feel like after SteamDeck boom.. as long as all other companies moved to get the piece of "handheld" pie, they are doing everything to make SteamDeck look like a bad choice because "hurr durr linux" I won't lie, i am scared of moment when Microsoft or someone at Acti-Blizz will decided to add some crappy AC to World of Warcraft just to make it not working on Linux :/
Steam Deck did Amazing and apart from multiplayer, Linux/Proton is very positive and got so much better since launch that's its just not an major issue. For Multiplayer yeah it somewhat problematic but if Steam pushes esp as they have there own game it looking good too. For me iv ditched Windows over last few month and iv a game doesnt work, so be it there are other choices that do work.
Is Linux gaming dead? Yeah, but that's ok. Gaming without caring about the underlying os is the best way to go. Games, should just work on a device , just at different performance levels.
Linux gaming is already excellent. For a long while, I stopped looking up linux compatibility because a lot of games on release work out of the box. Fortunately almost all games that don't work are made by shitty AAA companies like Ubisoft.
I just wish my main gaming laptop (Asus tuf 506UI) would work with Linux, but the darn Armoury Crate software is kind of mandatory for the hardware... Otherwise I'd switch yesterday! I'm already running Linux on everything else. And if a game doesn't work, well... there are so many other great games to play instead, no big deal. Like you said, maybe it will work later after some bug fixes or whatever - or get your money back.
The asus-ctl community and their made driver that aims to bring asus laptop support to linux could otherwise help you in your main machine, just a suggestion to look out for, in case you did not already xp.
@@Destide thanks! Downloading it now. New distro to me, but it's the second time I've heard about it in the last few days. The asus-ctl thing is such a pain in the butt to get going, I just gave up after an afternoon of frustration. But, this might finally work!
Not surprising it would lose interest. Linux was never thought of for gaming anyway and was just a fad because of steam deck. Even the updates to proton ge have heavily slowed down. No idea why valve is so knees deep in the trash when there's already a real os that does everything. When more and more companies start dropping the os even on an 11 year old game like gta 5 out of no where it coearly tells you no one else but valve thinks of linux for gaming. 😂
This is like steamDb. My game, once human is gold rated, and its not playable. Thats a kick in the teeth aint it? Its getting worse in linux. The gaming market is not after the advanced userers. They are after the sheeps, the normies to sell games. They dont give a crap about linux users
Linux gaming won't die. Linux gaming not running TPM 2.0 specific features will die. It will become the new "anticheat" and DRM. It costs performance, they know it and they tried to get us accustomed to that performance loss already in Windows 11. So why would the hardware manufacturers let them destroy performance? Because AMD and Intel can sell efficiency in TPM as fraudulent performance uplift and sell you new CPU upgrades you really don't need as die shrinks get more and more expensive. MS enforcing this and pushing the TPM standard is probably why game devs had not completely switched to Vulkan in the first place. They think it can truly end piracy and they have been saying this as far back as 2008. MS initially tried to do this with Windows 8 but the pushback was too great back then. People are simply dumber now. Steam will also be in on this. Steamdeck already has TPM 2.0 and Steam sells games.
I like Nico's video, but whenever he starts talking about gaming I just skip or switch the video off because he says often he isn't a gamer, so he really don't know what he is talking about there. Typical fast food journalism there...
The only way it would fail is if everyone stopped working to improve it. But what it does need is more focused attention from the right people on gaming for Linux. Need all the people working on gaming things like Egroll to all make one piece of software. Not this piece of software runs these, thin one is good for those. That needs to stop and a different more joint effort approach is needed, there is that one what's it called usually that's a joint effort so let's see how that goes
Well Doc the future of Linux really depends on how profitable it is for game developers to to produce games for it just like it is for PC or Mac. Which this is based on how big is the market.. Which means we have to keep using it. It is the law of large numbers. The more the money to be msde the more busness will market it. Windows 10 is going out of support not to long and then 11 will go out. Next windows is going to be as a service which is every month and no real ownership. This I believe will push folks to Linux.. That is the only choce for PC folks Switching to Mac is not an option due to hardware.
You know nothing. New version of direct X, that will come at some point, will most likely be working on kernel level and it will brake any compatibility with linux
You can only get your money back if you played less than 2 hrs and bought it on steam. If linux isn't officially supported and the game suddendly stops working you can't even ask for a refund, if you happen to get one it's just because your account status allows it and your ticket was handled by a valve employee that's in a good mood.
@@nixiam exactly that. I purchased Last Epoch and only played it offline, and never used the windows version. The dev removed the Linux version some months after I purchased it. I wrote to the developer and they said to contact steam for a refund because they can't issue refunds directly. Steam refused because I owned it for more than 14 days (I spoke with 2 agents about it).
@@DanielMircea wrong example anyway. I'm a last epoch player, the linux version was retired for a simple reason: the proton version works better and they did NOT prevent you from playing. It's you refusing to use proton, linux wasn't blocked at all like it happened for gta and, briefly, for space marines 2 (which now works again).
I didn't pay full price for proton. And keep in mind the dev itself wanted to issue me a refund but couldn't because Steam is the seller. A native build implies a legally binding agreement (it's 2 years for software in the EU, the law is since 2022). If the game breaks under proton nobody has any legal liability to fix it because it's not under the os requirements.
Linux gaming has never been at a better place then it currently sits on. It's a blaze, why missinforming. It is only regarding some shit multiplayer games anyway and valve is working on a fix
Why do you think it's failing? I got all my games and play them and they work nice even more FPS than win could have. If some cash cow multiplayer games started to not work via proton I don't care.
I hate using 😒 Windows Operating system to play MW3 Zombies and Nvidia drivers are not best on Linux I think it should be open options for all of us Users 🤔 use whatever Operating system we wanted not making us choose one and another be locking it by one other Operating system.
19:53 will anti cheat at a kernel level fail if you got a special input hardware that speeds up the movement of the mouse and keyboards keystrokes, and have HDMI visual input to an AI that will move your character for you :D? Imagine all those billions invested in anti cheat platforms and to fail on just 1$ mouse on ebay that has rapid firemode :D.
14:58 that fortnite game is full of cheaters, its crossplatform aka phone/tablet users can play against pc/console users who have the advantage of better input, I don't think it's fair to have bad controllers and put them in the same pot as the PC gamers with full armor :D.
There's a few that stand out to me. The small number of games that don't work or require fuss is the biggest issue obviously if you happen to play those specific games. The other one is that discord PTT doesn't work unless your mouse is over a running program. Screen sharing through discord doesn't work unless you run a 3rd party discord replacement, and push to talk doesn't work on those. Overclocking and GPU tweaking is not as good, but its getting close. I am able to run my 7800XT overclocked just right, but the software isn't as robust overall. On CachyOS, those are the only compromises I'm aware of. The benefits specific to gaming in linux are few, but there is a noticeable FPS increase for some games over windows. I'm hopeful that a year from now there will be no reason at all to use windows for gaming.
@@Cheironic Yeah. For me some games are missing cutscenes, some of them are artifacting badly. Not a good experience, but i definitely won't go to Win 11
also you got kirstenHANS working with valve again...but not with radv folks anymore since he working with NVIDIA now due to drivers have more functionaility than RADV is much more complicated for him past months to get fsr3 working on steam games platform...but its not working great as he thought with lukefz mods on linux that is causing regression massive frame drop after loading the game for 5 minutes into gameplay then it gpu usage drop constant.. It seems opticalflow only available in amd and nvidia windows drivers ..for amd drivers it uses anti-lag2 that uses windows HAGS gpu hardware scheduler driver but on linux ??? there is none of that than outdated latencyflex that does nothing to reduce latency build up
lol thats how i done it for years back in the days where linux was crap on linux i just get a playstation lol and that was a good solution as i can run FreeBSD as well back in the day, but u know FreeBSD now is sort of behind i find ... anyhow I don't game on Linux I use to, but lol i just use 1 pc on windows and i game on it, the other computers are all arch linux :)
The only game Valve made since they started was this really cool tutorial called Aperture Deskjob for the Deck and their other IPs are dead unfortunately
The thing is gamers have the biggest share of tech news/security aware users than any other demographic. Of course not everyone is a software engineer but most of us have that one friend who works in tech or tech adjacent fields and understands computers and OSes a bit better than us and if they can game on linux and explain, then Linux Gaming will grow.
About GTA V they didn't give refund even after 12 hours... I probably know which post you read, but many tried (me for example) through the automatic system and customer service but the refunds was not accepted.
Thanks for confirming.
I no longer feel bad about a few years ago buying the most expensive gta bundle on sale, then immediately refunding it and still getting the extra currency when i logged into gta online thru heroic games launcher cuz i already have the game on epic games for free. I don't know how that worked but meh, i can't use it now, and i didn't really lose any real monies.
@VictorSouza02 that is because it's not only about how long the purchase is ago but the time you played too. I didn't refund many games some times 2-3 in a week there you could think someday they say no to my "low fps reason". But as long I was in the time they did refund the game.
1 game I was a few minutes over the max play time and that game they didn't refund
The more users on Linux - the brighter the future.
@@cyberwunk wayland solves the issue if youre on amd graphics
on x11 u might wanna consider tweaking the compositor of the DE / WM u use
Bazzite is on a couple of my machines. Linux gaming is great. If a company wants invasive anti-cheat, I'm not interested in playing their game.
Kernel-level anticheats are a ticking bomb. Once one of them (hopefully Vanguard) will get 0-day vulnerability, this house of cards will start to collapse. It is and will always be a security breach possibility and having BattlEye, EasyAntiCheat, Vanguard and many more active at the same time only multiplies this possibility on the PC. Anything that runs on level-0 and is not trusted OS is just dumb solution that almost always when exploited will give an option for ACE.
Didn't the world get grinded to a halt a couple of weeks ago because Windows got bent over by a kernel level software that bricked pc's?
So this already happened on a bigger scale than just the gaming industry. Airports lost so much time/money.
@@ssgtblackmamba7991 yeah, but no one cares if they mess something up and break gaming machines... they only care if people stop paying them money.
@@ssgtblackmamba7991 It happened earlier this year with CrowdStrike.
It already has with Hoyoplay, someone used it to get low levle acess to Windows and bypass antvirus.
My hope is EAC, I am getting an unusual amount of freezing from Elden Ring and I refuse to believe my system is that outdated. Then again, I am a 1070 user in Linux land, so maybe I am cursed with bad gpu support with the big green elephant.
Gabe Newell used to work at Microsoft on Windows... So his commitment for Linux is very welcome and positive and be independent of Windows platform without leave it either but making things work smoothly whatever platform the user is using (Windows, Linux, macOS).
kernel anticheat = i won't play, even on windows
They won't let Linux users play, but they let hackers ramp free on some games. Yes, that sounds fair.
Sooner or later, they have to let us to play and enjoy these games.
True words.
Windows is also free
I 100% agree to you. Linux gaming is getting better extremely fast, it is unbelievable where we are compared to just 5 years ago!
There are still games that don't work and even games that stop working. But that was always the case, and it is getting less of an issue at least in my perception.
I think linux market share for gaming will continue to grow slowly. But the growth will increase in the coming years; later it might stop at some level. I don't think it will grow undefinitely, but as gaming on linux is easier and more performant in many cases today, when people understand that many will change.
The only thing keeping valve interested in Linux is Gabe. He hates windows. When he dies and the company goes public, all bets are off. Steam will go full corpo, and fuck everyone.
Could be true but, at the same time. the Steam deck is powered by Linux and Proton exists as open source. It is profitable for Steam to continue with Linux.
Of course, money under the table from Microsoft for the new CEO could be decide matters. usually does.
We could have say the same about Apple. But none of its values have dropped. So, at Valve, I think the people would continue their work, instead of abandon its (past) efforts.
@@jedipadawan7023 Gabe doesn't want the company to go public even after he's not the CEO anymore, he confirmed that in interviews. He also said multiple times he's training his replacement. Probably someone with the same mindset as Gabe has. Plus anyone who becomes the new CEO probably works there and is part of the same company culture Gabe created in the company. Which is most of the time very positive from people working there. I would be surprised if they ever go public. As their current strategy is making them shitload of money as is, while being private.
@@beni2am Oh cool! I knew not, so thanks for that.
I'm not really a serious gamer so I do not follow the gaming world much but I do have an eye on the rise of Linux and Valve is critical to that right now! So thanks again.
Linux would be better to work with GOG. They are much closer to Opensource with being DRM free. Steam itself might be dying from court cases and litigation.
The "gaming on Linux is an happy accident" was pretty insulting to people who worked on solutions like Wine way before Steam came with Proton (inspired by Wine...). Also insulting all players who have used these solutions and helped by doing their best through bugs feedback.
I see his point : if Steam didn't make the Steamdeck then there would be no Proton. Although it is true it doesn't mean there would not be gaming on Linux. We play thanks to Proton but mainly because it is the solution that appeared and now generates most of the usage, if an other - as efficient - solution appeared prior to Proton Steam would have use it for its deck, and if not and Proton didn't exist there would still be people working to find a way, and could have found it as Proton proves it is possible.
We would unlikely be at the same level of fun (unlikely but not impossible) but it would be just a matter of time before AI will be able to code a Proton equivalent, and as Proton exists then, if used, AI will likely make it more and more efficient.
Best way to run steam games on Linux is that they are compiled against steam runtime.
It is those incompetent game developers that don't setup their build pipelines to create native binaries.
AI? Jesus, it's absolutely mental we've come to the point where people put faith in AI to code complex software like proton. I'd like to see that, though.
@@BlueSparkzVideos 🤣🤣🤣
@@BlueSparkzVideos In its current state AI wont do the job all by itself for such a complex task, but well trained it can generate a huge load of useful code to try, and it wont take long before it will be quite effective to give it a goal and let it try its own solutions by itself, learn from its mistakes and generate a functional solution after weeks of try and errors that would take months, if not years, to a competent dev.
AI is a pretty powerful tool, especially when it comes to coding. And even if we stay at its actual level of performance (which is very unlikely) it already is a big development accelerator.
With game companies shuttering games in general these days there is no gaurantee any game with DRM will be available in the future.
@@Hifin8-ug2sr
Not the whole industry tho only the AAA part of things is shattering indies are on a rise lately because of that
Can we also stop acting like "all" Linux users play competitive multi players games.
So you like being treated as a second class citizen, yes ?
this was a good stream papa it was an interesting conversation
Hope you guys manage to do a podcast together!
People need to make their own graphics API and sound API for gaming on Linux if that were to be absolutely possible, aswell as with fluent low latency as it does on DirectX, Direct3D, Vulcan, OpenGL and so forth on Windows platform. If someone is able to make a stable libraries for that then yes, I'd say it's definitely possible to recreate that same feel on a Linux operating system, the problem is that we need engineers and computer science people to work together and with knowledge and experience, they must write open source versions of that and make it for the public good instead of corporate greed like Microsoft turned to unfortunately, so that is the only way forward for gaming on Linux as it is both a challenge and sometimes legal problems intertwined with this, unless you create your own intellectual property just like DirectX but in a original way that doesn't infringe on their copyrights and so forth. Having good drivers and stability on Linux is a must to ensure stable performance while gaming on Linux. I can say that running Oldschool RuneScape on Linux and Ubuntu is a easy thing to do but to play any other games that are more demanding games, it will tax the system in so many ways and most of the games are not compatible with Linux often the anti-cheat softwares will be responsible for that obstacle, we need to somehow find a middle ground where we can bring the best of DirectX in our own written code to not infringe on copyrights but ensure maximum frames per second with stability and performance in mind, aswell as compatability layers for those libraries and so forth, otherwise I see it as a very steep and impossible task, let alone writing all of this will be a huge undertaking. But respect to those willing to take on those tasks for performance gaming on Linux. I respect those that do, as they will be our only hope to make gaming enjoyable on Linux. This is just my take on the situation, so anyone can have their own opinion on what is needed but this is what I feel.
I personally think Microsoft Windows is still the best way to play games unfortunately because there's no other option to secure such high performance, but I wish one day Linux can do the same one day and if not, even better.
Why create their own APIS when Vulkan already exists? Its funded and used by many multi-bilion dolar comapanies, doing everything from the zero would be stupid and actually harmfull.
Guys, don't forget UMU launcher because that thing is based on proton and by design it should work with any any platform be it EA app, Ubisoft or which ever you use. UMU should be universal version of proton for everything. Anti cheat that works at kernel level is a problem but perhaps UMU launcher devs might surpise us. If you play single player generaly you won't have any problems but if you play online games it will solely depend on developer and what anticheat they use. I play single player games only so i will have zero issues gaming on linux.
I had a problem connecting to Helldivers 2 lobbies and I thought maybe it's my Proton layer.
I've been on Linux for three months it was my first time launching it since the switch. So I discovered that I was hanging in my spaceship without a Proton layer on. Helldivers 2. Was lowkey running on Linux with no compatibility layer. Good surprise. Obviously I couldn't check how it ran in game 😂
@@yngvildrthevoracious that sounds impossible. Helldivers 2 only has a windows build, so it will always run on proton
Probably was running with proton experimental or a version that you selected on the compatibility settings in steam
@@monochrome_linuxYeah, I mean, Linux won't even load Windoews executables (PE). It can only load ELFs.
if you don't specify which version of proton to run a game with, and it only has a windows build, it'll fallback to using your chosen "run other titles with..." option in the compatibility settings.
@@aguyininternet632 nope. Compatibility was not checked. I actually thought I had it but I had to check a box and then drop down to it. I think it might have crashed had I been able to join the lobby OR it was the reason why I couldn't join the lobby, I'm not sure yet. The game also says Steam Deck ready and I have "force a compatibility layer" on so all games have the install button so I think this might have indeed made it so, while I was unaware, still used some compatibility layer by xefault that I couldn't see on end user interfaces. My default is the CachyOS custom Proton layer but it was absent and I had to select it manually. Because it was manual, that's why I remember it well.
Even if it runs in windows, im not leting anything level 0 instaled on my win install...dafuw are they thinking? Thats barn door voulnerability in any OS
If I understood correctly, they fixed GTA 5 on Linux a few weeks ago
I hope Linux gaming adoption grows. And in case Microsoft and its partners would make games impossible to run on any other platform than Windows (anti-cheat at the kernel level or using a specific chip), then maybe people will make only Windows gaming machines, and use a Linux desktop distribution for their daily computing use to avoid Copilot/Recall collecting personal data in the cloud.
Whenever Linux desktop users will grow, also in companies (?), gaming devs will have to publish native linux games. I hope this will happen. And/Or maybe Microsoft will have an online-only Windows OS service or its own Linux distro, which would mean that games would necessary be ported to work in a Linux environment.
I think the tipping point which makes Linux gaming work or not is the question whether developers decide to focus on Linux support first instead of Windows. This could be the case with Linux exclusives for example or games that do not support Windows initially...
When I started using Linux exclusively on my PC, I went into it knowing full well that I would be gaming on Linux at my own risk. Support is mostly 3rd party with the introduction of Proton and Lutris. Only game in my collection that is incompatible with my distro is Destiny 2. No big loss, I have The Division, Division 2, Final Fantasy XI & XIV to keep me occupied.
Nexon's Games never works on Linux because their anticheat doesn't allow it...Yet their games is plagued with hackers. lol
No one wants to spend 1~3 hours. To figure out why his game is not running on lunix.
I'm a lunix for over 10 years, i don't hate it, but linux is not a good desktop system.
Current windows builds are excellent. Every annoying feature in Windows 11 has solutions with a tool the fix for you or a manual registry editing you only are you going to do once,
I created some .bat files to apply a lot of modifications for my liking to Windows 11.
It's way better than using linux, especially if you have so many games outside Steam or you are a person who doesn't want to pay for games.
I was excited to run solve compatibility issues when i was younger, but now i dont.
Haven't had to use really any extra time to figure out of games work. Just installed and ran them.
@@esaedvik pc games are not exclusive to steam.
Great video! Thx! ✌
There is a point with some devs it stops being a technical issue and starts being a them issue. Daily Linux users forget how some people view Linux, I have friends in AAA game dev all be it the art side of things, and they still see it as that scene in the matrix where the guys explaining what he sees in the code. You have to remember that the tools they use, and their daily environments are Windows, it's prob why genres like simulations never have issues as they tend to be more programmer lead, so the awareness and internal voices for Linux are higher.
Fact is that building native binaries for consumer friendly way for Linux based desktops has not been issue for 16-18 years. It is developer issue.
I do understand that if game is some multiplayer game requiring anti-cheat system is not compiled to Linux because tech savvy people don't want to install that kind of malware on their system anyways. But all single player games or games that don't require that are different thing. They should be compiled to native by default.
This is not related to code in any way. It is about target audiences, are they using consoles, desktops, laptops, tablets or mobile. And also the hardware generation. There are currently three kind of hardware generations.
Then the support matrix is chosen by based on lowest common denominator to get widest audience on every API/hardware/language version etc. feature, and between game code and platform there is abstraction layer so the code is same.
linux is my daily driver but i have a dual boot to a fully stripped win10 that has nothing left except drivers needed to play games, no personal files, no login to windows or google or whatever except for ubisoft, steam and ea games. I am not a hardcore gamer but it works for me
Realistically, the game support on Linux is going to get better. Steam deck has been a big success, and many developers will want to support it. And the more people start using Linux for their desktop PCs, the more incentive game developers will have to provide native support, or at least support via Proton.
EA is doing Linux gamers a favour.
Those that don’t have the self control to #BoycottEA.
Never fear, EA has you covered. They will boycott for you.
I’m 11 years clean of EA’s slop.
Feels good.
Same with Riot and Ubisoft and and and. Just boycott all of them.
@@esaedvik they all make trash. Indie have been responsible for every good game made for over a decade now.
WINE / Proton / DXVK / VKD3D or whatever, they're really big projects like bro they're translating codes between 2 systems and surprisingly, it works!
The thing of it is, you're translating the MAIN CODE between a CLOSED SOURCE and an OPEN SOURCE system. Do you think that it is ez?
It is an OPEN SOURCE project, and it is developing by a lot of developers. If the game ends the compatibility for PROTON, the OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY will find a way. As always.
Hell for some games those. transition layers like dxvk/proton seem to make the games run even better in some cases.
Love linux, but for gaming, it feels like a waste of time.
Many games i play use mods, and thet isn't always easy or to do. They either dont work or have major jank. Plus, it is harder for pirating. It is fun to mess around but if i want to just play my games, it is windows all the way.
I didn't know that about modding. I've been thinking about going linux but I do a lot of modding and cracking. Is cracking not as simple as adding a non steam game to steam or no?
Seems fine for literally anything else. I haven't modded a game in decades myself. Or really played an online shooter or MOBA cause they're just too toxic and shit (or made by shitty devs like EA or Ubisoft).
@@vgamedude9811 It isn't that simple, and it really comes down to how to you install these games. You can go the wine/lutris route, or you can use bottles. So lets say you download a fitgirl installer, there is a chance that it might not work, like give you an error when installing. So now you need try dodi, or perhaps use bottles for the app installer.
Lets say you get it to run like awakened for Path of exile. Sometimes it works, other times I need to alt+tab in order to get it too run properly. And this is using an AUR which should be better than emulation.
Like I get it, most people that praise linux gaming do so from a steam deck pov. That you download the game from steam and install and play. But that isn't a true PC gaming experience. PC gaming is about freedom, different store fronts, launchers, accounts. From modding to cracking, hosting servers, and everything you can imagine. Linux doesn't allow for most of this.
I have been using Unreal Engine since 2018. Or rather, I used to. Now that I am aware of these statements from the CEO of Epic, I will no longer use it. By the way... I will only use tools that run on Linux. Thank you for sharing.
I was gaming on linux before proton. Heck, i was gaming on linux before i had a steam account. I will be gaming on it if steam and proton go away. They are a welcome addition and it has improved gaming on linux but In all these years the only thing that has changed is the expectation that linux will take over. It will not and it doesnt have to.
I now play Star Citizen exclusively on Linux with Lutris, It works really well. and the vast majority of steam games work on Linux with no tinkering required. The only games I have issues with are mods, most of my mods have issues on Linux but not all of them.
Linux has a future, 99% of the web and data centers are running Linux, as technical skills increase and Microsoft keeps pulling their bs Linux use is only going to increase the growth has already been massive
Let's be honest. Unless the game devs actually take a stand to support proton or anticheat layers that are available on Linux, we just pray that Valve has enough money to burn on making anything possible to keep as many games possible playable in Linux.
Fun fact: You can also lose access to your games on windows. For example multiplayer games that run on game servers provided by the devs. If they decide to shut down their servers... You are screwed as well. If Rare decides that Sea of Thieves is no more... well... no access to your game... Just saying...
Not failing and not doomed! but keeps better day by day and growing
Nice to see people pushing back against these ambulance chaser creators.
Huh?
His videos title and contents were chosen because they would generate stress and misinformation across the community which for the creator = clicks. Shit titles like that alone will put people off from even trying Linux. We don't need crap like that.
i am pretty confident vulkan on its last legs before whole table breaks apart as opengl been since last version 4.5 cause collapse entire foundation
My daily driver is the Steamdeck, I havent had any trouble running games. I dont think the Steamdeck is underpowered but it definitely is not the most powerful pc. The thing that makes it amazing is its running software on hardware made but the software makers so its an incredible out of the box Linux experience. :D (Ive also run Linux Mint and Endeavour OS, Steam OS has been the most beginner friendly Linux experience )
I remember playing GTA Online on Linux like it was nothing. Good thing I stopped before they broke the Linux part. BattleField V on my side also stopped working (same to other EA games like the PVZ series). Valve refused a refund as I have played BF V for more than 2 hours (4 hours overall).
to be credible in the eyes of the big game publishers, linux would have to reform itself already, in particular to have only 4-5 distros max, with developers and a solid community behind them. the software as a whole could also benefit. in short, as long as you're not visible, you remain insignificant.
I think it's because M$ changed is business model with Windows and made it way more accessible. Also there is industry wide long term decline in motivation to do things for free.
Dude, since last two weeks I am on Garuda and I am MS Azure engineer so my work is completely within Microsoft environment.. Yet transfering workflow was not that painfull ... just tweaks here and there
The anti-cheat thing is dumb. I'm on linux, but if I WANTED to cheat, I WOULD cheat. I'd hide my VM as a VM, run windows, and use cheats from the linux side through it. Or I'd just cheat in the VM. I don't WANT to cheat. I just want to play the game. Cheating is for single player games and co-op games when you mod them to lessen grind or make the game harder.
02:53 they will remove stuff in PS games as well for multiplayer features. What to do about it, don't play multiplayer games and you won't be affected, patch the games to not ping the servers for single player games and you're good.
Its not about money back, but about to take your part of the freedom to play it on Linux!!!! And specially when it works! R* broke what was working thats why is there big halo of it.
Linux coming along nicely, i mostly offline game and wish i could set up steam library more easily on non c: HDD and then there's mod issues. As for other cheat issues i'm sure they'llcwork around it
Does anyone even ask why "anti-cheat" custom software even exists? What purpose does it really even serve? Shouldn't the software itself be coded in such a way to detect any issues? The problem is people who are obviously very sad children if they must resort to cheating.I don't play multiplayer and prefer single player games and many I've had no issues with playing through on Linux. I also play a lot of indie and old games which run fine. Most recently played through Cyberpunk and Witcher 3 which were great.
Don't panic. Just because GTA and the like don't allow Linux users access doesn't mean we can't play games. There will be solutions for that at some point.
i switched to linux probably around a year ago. bouncing from arch, to manjaro, ubuntu, pop, fedora. but found my sweet spot in pop. But games that require an AC like cod or battlefield i'll just go play on my xbox. I'm not loosing anything really yeah it sucks not to play it on pc anymore but still atleast both the games have 120fps option for xbox.
I disagree on one issue: players are players and have multiple accounts (also because accounts are free), for example I have steam, epic, gog, ubisoft connect and EA. I don't know anyone who only has steam, even the owners of steam decks that I know can still have the same platforms via lutris or heroic launcher. I can still agree on the fact that valve started it all, but the comparison between thousands of players and millions of players is not correct, most of them use everything, exactly like under windows.
OK, here’s my point if steam stops proton development or doesn’t release a new steam deck they might as well close the doors and shut down the company because most people who are on windows will get their games through an Xbox all access subscription. What is the point of buying steam games when you can get them from Microsoft? The reason why people like steam is because it is cross platform. And they know it!
I can't game on Linux until I can load a custom monitor EDID file using the AMD GPU with CachyOS defaults.
Limited TV Range with uneven refresh rates isn't something I like.
Linux gaming:
- Some games don't work (Anti Cheat)
- If you have top end hardware: OS doesn't matter
- if you have lower-/mid hardware: Linux is often faster or smoother, depends on the game and your hardware.
Personally I play with a R5 3600 and an RX 6700 XT and I have a lot of problems with the AMD graphics drivers. Its possible that its also PBO causing issues but honestly I have reinstalled the drivers so many times and on Linux its just so much more enjoyable, that I don't care to test anymore.
Especially in DX11 titles, the Vulkan frontend causes games to be so much more smooth than DX11, where you have to play for hours for shaders to compile and cache.
Which would also not be an issue if crashes didn't sometimes cause Windows Update to overwrite your drivers, which is solved by DDU & reinstall drivers & then cache is gone again.
Example: Shadow of the Tomb Raider has critical bugs for Radeon 6000 series cards that cause crashes as explained above, while I have had no crashes whatsoever playing the game via Heroic Games Launcher on Linux
I'm sure there are other experiences but to me Linux gaming is actually more fun than Windows, though I do game less because my tinkerer heart is often configuring stuff in the meantime...
Also, qui pour un podcast A1rm4x & Linux Experiment ? ✋
GTA5
they will focus on cheater on WIndows instead of Linux. Well since no-one can play it on Linux I guess the ration is 0 cheaters in LInux :D
I played EA Sports WRC for around 45 hours on Linux then EA changed the anti cheat in it and made it unplayable. Steam would not give me a refund.
Fuck EA anyway they such a scam
Sometimes i feel like after SteamDeck boom.. as long as all other companies moved to get the piece of "handheld" pie, they are doing everything to make SteamDeck look like a bad choice because "hurr durr linux"
I won't lie, i am scared of moment when Microsoft or someone at Acti-Blizz will decided to add some crappy AC to World of Warcraft just to make it not working on Linux :/
A comment I saw somewhere here said that EA already did this with one if their Rally Games but it was to be expected because it's EA we talk about
Hopefully not because Windows 11 is basically the OS version of those discs that oxidize and become unreadable after using them once
Steam Deck did Amazing and apart from multiplayer, Linux/Proton is very positive and got so much better since launch that's its just not an major issue. For Multiplayer yeah it somewhat problematic but if Steam pushes esp as they have there own game it looking good too.
For me iv ditched Windows over last few month and iv a game doesnt work, so be it there are other choices that do work.
Is Linux gaming dead? Yeah, but that's ok. Gaming without caring about the underlying os is the best way to go. Games, should just work on a device , just at different performance levels.
Linux gaming is already excellent. For a long while, I stopped looking up linux compatibility because a lot of games on release work out of the box. Fortunately almost all games that don't work are made by shitty AAA companies like Ubisoft.
I just wish my main gaming laptop (Asus tuf 506UI) would work with Linux, but the darn Armoury Crate software is kind of mandatory for the hardware... Otherwise I'd switch yesterday! I'm already running Linux on everything else. And if a game doesn't work, well... there are so many other great games to play instead, no big deal. Like you said, maybe it will work later after some bug fixes or whatever - or get your money back.
The asus-ctl community and their made driver that aims to bring asus laptop support to linux could otherwise help you in your main machine, just a suggestion to look out for, in case you did not already xp.
Bazzite offers an Asus laptop image might be worth s look
Nah it's not. Install g14 kernel and rogcontrolcenter
@@Destide thanks! Downloading it now. New distro to me, but it's the second time I've heard about it in the last few days. The asus-ctl thing is such a pain in the butt to get going, I just gave up after an afternoon of frustration. But, this might finally work!
Armoury Crate is not "mandatory" for anything, trust me
Not surprising it would lose interest. Linux was never thought of for gaming anyway and was just a fad because of steam deck. Even the updates to proton ge have heavily slowed down. No idea why valve is so knees deep in the trash when there's already a real os that does everything. When more and more companies start dropping the os even on an 11 year old game like gta 5 out of no where it coearly tells you no one else but valve thinks of linux for gaming. 😂
This is like steamDb. My game, once human is gold rated, and its not playable. Thats a kick in the teeth aint it? Its getting worse in linux. The gaming market is not after the advanced userers. They are after the sheeps, the normies to sell games. They dont give a crap about linux users
I would like to see more foss games on linux.,there certainly enough game engine out there.
Linux gaming won't die. Linux gaming not running TPM 2.0 specific features will die. It will become the new "anticheat" and DRM. It costs performance, they know it and they tried to get us accustomed to that performance loss already in Windows 11. So why would the hardware manufacturers let them destroy performance? Because AMD and Intel can sell efficiency in TPM as fraudulent performance uplift and sell you new CPU upgrades you really don't need as die shrinks get more and more expensive. MS enforcing this and pushing the TPM standard is probably why game devs had not completely switched to Vulkan in the first place. They think it can truly end piracy and they have been saying this as far back as 2008. MS initially tried to do this with Windows 8 but the pushback was too great back then. People are simply dumber now. Steam will also be in on this. Steamdeck already has TPM 2.0 and Steam sells games.
I like Nico's video, but whenever he starts talking about gaming I just skip or switch the video off because he says often he isn't a gamer, so he really don't know what he is talking about there. Typical fast food journalism there...
The only way it would fail is if everyone stopped working to improve it. But what it does need is more focused attention from the right people on gaming for Linux. Need all the people working on gaming things like Egroll to all make one piece of software. Not this piece of software runs these, thin one is good for those. That needs to stop and a different more joint effort approach is needed, there is that one what's it called usually that's a joint effort so let's see how that goes
Linux exp is so god damn hard to listen to
Well Doc the future of Linux really depends on how profitable it is for game developers to to produce games for it just like it is for PC or Mac. Which this is based on how big is the market.. Which means we have to keep using it. It is the law of large numbers. The more the money to be msde the more busness will market it. Windows 10 is going out of support not to long and then 11 will go out. Next windows is going to be as a service which is every month and no real ownership. This I believe will push folks to Linux.. That is the only choce for PC folks Switching to Mac is not an option due to hardware.
You know nothing. New version of direct X, that will come at some point, will most likely be working on kernel level and it will brake any compatibility with linux
You can only get your money back if you played less than 2 hrs and bought it on steam. If linux isn't officially supported and the game suddendly stops working you can't even ask for a refund, if you happen to get one it's just because your account status allows it and your ticket was handled by a valve employee that's in a good mood.
@@nixiam exactly that. I purchased Last Epoch and only played it offline, and never used the windows version. The dev removed the Linux version some months after I purchased it. I wrote to the developer and they said to contact steam for a refund because they can't issue refunds directly. Steam refused because I owned it for more than 14 days (I spoke with 2 agents about it).
@@DanielMircea wrong example anyway. I'm a last epoch player, the linux version was retired for a simple reason: the proton version works better and they did NOT prevent you from playing. It's you refusing to use proton, linux wasn't blocked at all like it happened for gta and, briefly, for space marines 2 (which now works again).
I didn't pay full price for proton. And keep in mind the dev itself wanted to issue me a refund but couldn't because Steam is the seller. A native build implies a legally binding agreement (it's 2 years for software in the EU, the law is since 2022). If the game breaks under proton nobody has any legal liability to fix it because it's not under the os requirements.
proton not everything bruh this is a joke
you can play games like this (wine+dxvk+maybe extra lib) you be fine
yea i play mostly of my "alternative" games on wine tkg, proton only for steam games.
What is this nonsense of CHEATING in a game using Linux?
WHO CARES?
If a user wants to cheat, whether or not he's using Linux, that's HIS BUSINESS!
Linux gaming has never been at a better place then it currently sits on. It's a blaze, why missinforming. It is only regarding some shit multiplayer games anyway and valve is working on a fix
Pourquoi ne pas l'invité dans un de tes live ? . Bonne continuation .
I'm starting to game on linix planning on moving away from Windows after 10 is retired.
Why do you think it's failing? I got all my games and play them and they work nice even more FPS than win could have. If some cash cow multiplayer games started to not work via proton I don't care.
chromeos is a decent part of linux marketshare tbf
I hate using 😒 Windows Operating system to play MW3 Zombies and Nvidia drivers are not best on Linux I think it should be open options for all of us Users 🤔 use whatever Operating system we wanted not making us choose one and another be locking it by one other Operating system.
atm linux is not an alternative exactrly. If/when microsoft decides to break it, we are in square one. or zero.
19:53 will anti cheat at a kernel level fail if you got a special input hardware that speeds up the movement of the mouse and keyboards keystrokes, and have HDMI visual input to an AI that will move your character for you :D?
Imagine all those billions invested in anti cheat platforms and to fail on just 1$ mouse on ebay that has rapid firemode :D.
WOW in lutris works very badly, it's always problematic, that's why I can't switch to Linux.
i cant install linux in my machine .. it give me kernal panic !! any fix ?
14:58 that fortnite game is full of cheaters, its crossplatform aka phone/tablet users can play against pc/console users who have the advantage of better input, I don't think it's fair to have bad controllers and put them in the same pot as the PC gamers with full armor :D.
I want Linux gaming to be good
But for now coming with tons of compromises
There's a few that stand out to me. The small number of games that don't work or require fuss is the biggest issue obviously if you happen to play those specific games. The other one is that discord PTT doesn't work unless your mouse is over a running program. Screen sharing through discord doesn't work unless you run a 3rd party discord replacement, and push to talk doesn't work on those. Overclocking and GPU tweaking is not as good, but its getting close. I am able to run my 7800XT overclocked just right, but the software isn't as robust overall. On CachyOS, those are the only compromises I'm aware of. The benefits specific to gaming in linux are few, but there is a noticeable FPS increase for some games over windows. I'm hopeful that a year from now there will be no reason at all to use windows for gaming.
@@Cheironic Yeah. For me some games are missing cutscenes, some of them are artifacting badly. Not a good experience, but i definitely won't go to Win 11
also you got kirstenHANS working with valve again...but not with radv folks anymore since he working with NVIDIA now due to drivers have more functionaility than RADV is much more complicated for him past months to get fsr3 working on steam games platform...but its not working great as he thought with lukefz mods on linux that is causing regression massive frame drop after loading the game for 5 minutes into gameplay then it gpu usage drop constant.. It seems opticalflow only available in amd and nvidia windows drivers ..for amd drivers it uses anti-lag2 that uses windows HAGS gpu hardware scheduler driver but on linux ??? there is none of that than outdated latencyflex that does nothing to reduce latency build up
How come all these linux channels are french. Vive la france le sang
I have HP Omen Ryzen 7 5800 and Radeon 6600m. Which distribution do you recommend for gaming? Fedora KDE, Arch, Ubuntu, Garuda or maybe Nobara 40
Use arch for best results. Maybe CachyOS for best performance. If you are new to Linux, nobara is ok.
lol thats how i done it for years back in the days where linux was crap on linux i just get a playstation lol and that was a good solution as i can run FreeBSD as well back in the day, but u know FreeBSD now is sort of behind i find ... anyhow I don't game on Linux I use to, but lol i just use 1 pc on windows and i game on it, the other computers are all arch linux :)
So passive-agressive!
Valve will start making there own games they already started
The only game Valve made since they started was this really cool tutorial called Aperture Deskjob for the Deck and their other IPs are dead unfortunately
The thing is gamers have the biggest share of tech news/security aware users than any other demographic. Of course not everyone is a software engineer but most of us have that one friend who works in tech or tech adjacent fields and understands computers and OSes a bit better than us and if they can game on linux and explain, then Linux Gaming will grow.
on dit chocolatine...😁
With fascists like Linus Torvalds - Linux is doomed anyway.
I dont play online sooo... i dont give a fuck
playtron please