The GOOD & the BAD of NO Power Creep in AFK Journey
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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All i hear is people wanting to scratch their gambling hitch
💯 lol
sometimes i feel like we need to ask ourselves, do we want to play a game where a unit we invested into (like Odie) is still in a playable state after 1-2 years of the game. Or do we want to play the game that constantly releases new broken heroes to get whales to spend infinite $$$ that take the place of the old ones. Just save, and once a new broken hero gets released u can build it to S+ and then wait for another powercreep down the road. Its such a free to play friendly system, why do people boycott is so much.
im not excited for new heroes cause its impossible to pull them as f2p. im actively playing since day 1, currently at season afk stage 700+ and 370+ res level. and after you complete map and arcane labyrinth you literally got no gem/invite letter resources beside daily quests which gives 290 gems per day for me. for a game you need A LOT of copies you need to just be able to use a character, this game doesnt give enough pulls at all. i just buy the discounted letter for 210 gems from shop daily, 1 pull for day and thats all. and a couple more pulls when i push afk stages and thats all. i dont even remember when did i pull on epic recruitment last time. 0 ways to get epic letter, 1 normal pull daily. how can i be excited for new heroes with this gem incomes? xd
Bro does not know the definition of SAVING
I'm a whale and I have a f2p acc with 150k gems lol
Every essential hero is built in supreme+
They r very for f2p u just manage ur gems bad
"People get to the point where they have a bunch of heroes at Mythic+...."
7. I have 7 heroes at Mythic+. 🙂
I think this is great honestly. I don't want to feel like i'm constantly missing out on new heroes. I'd rather build heroes because of their stylization, and their 'gameplay' as a generic statement - not because "this is the new exciting OP unit". The game will be much more enjoyable if they focus on adding difficult strategic gameplay modes which allow us to utilize THE WHOLE ROSTER that we have collected and built. I find dura's trials and legend trial to be some of the most enjoyable game modes because they allow me to benefit off of buildling so many different heros that arn't just meta heros.
I've skipped out on phraesto and ulmus and I don't feel like I have missed anything. I like that.
BUT, they do need to make some new units to be able to stand out on their own outside of "does this unit make my meta team better?", it should be, "what new team can we make around/with this new hero?"
NO POWER CREEP = HEALTH OF THE GAME
we as COMMUNITY need to understand that
we will get at least 2 more broken heroes + a celestial this split, do we really need to have more? Idle heroes is dying due to power creep, this game is managing it well, community just needs to understand that. Game's been out for 2 months and u guys complain about NO BIG META SHIT. If there is a big meta shift every month it means people will complain about not having enough resouces to build the heroes. Endless loophole...
I agree 10000%!! Some patience will make this game one of the best mobile games of all time imo.
Idle Heroes is dying due to 0 power creep but just a bloat of new upgrading ways. In the past 2 years besides Transcendence Vulcan and Betty nothing has been valuable. And these two are only valuable for lategame players which many f2p arent.
the problem is the stagnation. I think if people had more tools to use it wouldnt feel as bad because people would branch out more, but most f2p dont have the resources to build outside of A-A-ron teams. I almost never run them in arena anymore just cause im having more fun beating people up with Kafra...and yes i fight Eiron and yes Kafra beats him >_>
@@cruiser332 bro this is the definition of power creep
Idle heroes is not dying more people are joining the game than leaving lol
i feel like the real issue is most units only come online or viable at mythic plus. Which is why we have to save everytime and can't spend and have fun with new units. If the units were more viable at 1 copy we could pull for all these very well balanced units.
350+ rate up banner tickets and 240k+ diamonds I haven’t pulled on a rate up
Since Vala, I’m getting bored and need the hype, cause grinding afk lvls past 1k rate now are so boring
I feel like this is a pretty solid take. Its time for a powerful hero but paying attention to power creep will make this game truly stand out! The nuance of team balance and strategy will be destroyed if new units are vastly overpowered. They need to be strong but they cant just dominate the whole game. One of the best things about AFKJ imo is the way different heroes and teams work better in different game modes. This allows you to actually USE your roster of characters you build. I kinda wish the community for this game could be a little less demanding... Its sad to watch. Feel bad for the devs. This is SUCH a beautiful, polished, and for the most part balanced game. Please lets not ruin it by making ridiculous demands. :D
I feel a bit of hypocrisy by how they are managing the game, so last 2 released heroes aren’t good in any mode but they released phraesto which is very good but also going to release 2-3 cele/hypo every season and if they are like him well they will break the game, is too hard to get them m+ i have only one with 70 days as top 5/20 arena and guild. What the game needs imho is variety starting by enemies, with a dumb example if a boss can take CC the meta team will shift on other heroes, same thing in pvp we need more archetypes that can potentially counter something and get counter by others etc. So for me isnt about powercreep there’s lot of work to do in every aspect of the game, i think thats what they wanted to do with seasonal skills but in the end the best characters are still the same. Even if they go with those changes remain one big problem about building new teams even if all the heroes are m+, materials to level up exclusive equipment.
I find it respectable that they have not released a broken character yet. I would personally be fine with no new “meta defining” characters several more months. Give everyone enough time to fully build most of the good existing characters instead of trying to always chase that next shiny new character that is OP. Shows me that the devs care about the longevity of the game.
i really like this kind of balance, no "toy" feels like a wasted investment i can still have fun in the future in combination with other new toys instead of only the very recent ones making any sense to use even if there was synergy with older stuff, this is alot more fun longterm and i can pace my investments the way i feel like i benefit the most at a given time as i don't get thrown behind so heavily if there is something new especially if you can't actually afford new things, this also spices up any multiplayer content as people use different things
but there is one thing i really need out of the next updates including characters and that is simply something to counter eiron better with, there should be more enemies in afk stages that can work against heavy cc spam aswell as characters for pvp purposes, as much as i like him myself he is making the game very stale
Personally I don’t have a issue with the heroes I still building the heroes they got in base game right now trying to get 25supreme plus and building 3 solid teams for supreme areana. So I’m fine how it is with the release of the recent hero I can focus more on
ive said this before, people would be crying if all the new characters were op, you cant win
I just want something to break the eironn meta
If the game decided to release units like liberta or awakaned shemira, it will be over. The powercreep with them is real but they are non f2p friendly units
They already announced they are planning on pumping out new Hypogean and Celestial units. Not only are they not f2p friendly, you can't even get them at a reasonable rate spending hundreds of dollars per month. As soon as they start releasing new hypo/celes that synergize with Eironn, they will take over the game.
I’m happy with where we are, as a some what F2P player.
I think I’m anti hype, I’m in this for the long haul lol.
It's good for f2p but bad for whales bcz they r the one helping the game and they have short patience so they must release hype heroes soon bcz whales r quitting left n right@@RyanDoepke
Balanced is always better imo. Pvp I think we just need the ability to fight friends for free as much as we want so we can test
No power creep? Are you sure? Alsa+lumus or even alsa by herself has replaced Carolina. Flurobell replaced Cecia. When Taline comes out, Carolina is in the grave XD.
I don't mind if they don't wanna power creep but right now units like Soren and Ulmas are mid-creep. We simply want units that are on par with Eironn or Thoran. Hell, if we're talking A-level units, no one so far is even on par with Odie.
I would argue having power creep at this moment is more f2p friendly. Atleast for the rate up banner, the players can guarantee the rate up character. Compared to a meta team like Eiroon, there is no way to guarantee to get that comp. You can spend 100k diamonds and still can’t get m+ eiroon. Therefore between guarantee and random, I would say guarantee is way better.
There are only 2 ways to spend diamonds in this game: standard banner and rate up banner. And imo, standard banner is only meant for A rank characters.
There is nothing wrong with releasing power creep characters but they should be viable at 1 or 2 copies. Having to bring them up to mythic+ is a lot of investment for f2p players to just summon and have fun.
I still need to get thoran M+ ( my thoran was stuck at legendary for 2.5 months )so i still can't save for banner heroes yet,the game is so dry out of resources right now
Im a huge fan of synergy teams. There is lot of room for this game to grow. I look forward to sticking around for the ride.
I dont plan on getting any paragon though, so at a certain point i will only be playing for the rate-ups
tbh, i myself feel that i should have saved starting from alsa and soren banner...especially soren whos more like a dust cabinet unit for me. havent used him tbh
Patience... a meta unit IS incoming. The only question is... when will SHE get here. 😆
Nah we need all non banner S hero to arena shop so atleast we have time to build up comps
I like Journey so far, but new cool hero would be nice.
The problem with Soren and Ulmus is they do nothing to set them apart from existing heroes in. New heroes should expand team building options, strengthen an exsisting one or fill a niche.
Why is it that every hero this season has been funneled into the Eironn comp? So yeah I do want power creep for the neglected factions and strategies, so people can actually play the factions they enjoy without being at a disadvantage in afk stages or pvp.
It's not powercreep then, it's more of a variety. For example a team that buff dot or give anti cc might be nice. A powercreep is a unit that will counter eironn comp and be used in every single mode (some cases are liberta and ashemira from afk arena, if they are released in this game, they will powercreep everyone)
no powercreep is good.
As someone who plays a game like DBZ Dokkan Battle, hype units DRIVE the game. The whole reason a lot of ppl play gacha games is to get excited about new powerful characters. This game has nailed gameplay but completely missed the mark on the characters releases. Its really a shame.
I can definitely see that. They could easily make a Powerful but not OP hero that has a new combat style instead of "another Eironn combo hero"
W GAME
Also I recommend dbl, they r the same cuz the units r all broken hypes lol