The way I described legion to my 40k friends is as such. The Clones=Space Marines in play style. The Empire=Imperial Guard but with better saves. The Rebel's=Tau. And the Droids as you said are the Nids.
Clones are absolutely the Marines, and CIS are more or less the Nids. However I think the empire is much more akin to the Tau in recent additions with rather middling gun line units that rely on buffs and some powerful special units. Rebels are a bit harder to pin down but I'd say maybe Genestealer Cult? Idk
This is so crazy to think about. The tyranids are my favorite faction in 40k. (Just started last year so new to wargaming) but as soon as I was introduced to legion I was drawn to the droid lol
@@Crizzly122 I think second sister would be better than ninth. Yeah, Kal could be cool, I imagine his little droid will be like Iden's little droid, but will have treat 1 capacity 2 or something instead of shielded. It would be nice to get some cheap budget Force users, around the cost of Iden. With the inquisitors, I think they should have Block instead of deflect cause it's definitely harder to redirect shots with the spinning blade, but maybe they also get agile 2 or nimble or something
@@elilieb2073 BD-1 is so small and not meant for combat I dont think he would be his own model, I imagined him being on Cal's back and making the sculpt look really nice
I hope Thrawn gets his model one day. Sure he has his destroyer in Armada, but Thrawn also has a fair amount of ground combat experience. Being such a popular character I'm sure he'll be used often.
There aren't any official models, but there are some great looking fan-made ones. I have one of him sitting on a throne I use as an objective. Rebellion/New Republic must capture Thrawn, the Empire must defend him
The Rebels boring to paint??? I collect all 4 factions and think the Rebels are by far the most interesting to paint. At least if you want to keep it close to the movies etc. Empire, Republic and CIS all have so many monochromatic color schemes. White troopers, more white troopers, beige droids... But with the Rebels you can go crazy and they still fit into that Star Wars aesthetic. Good video otherwise, but I couldn't disagree more in that specific point.
@@sheepystopmotion7713 Yea, I painted my Phase 2 clones in different color shemes according to different Batallions. Nevertheless I think the Rebels are the ones you can go the craziest with, while still sticking to the lore. An colorful ATST may look cool, but it won't give you the same Star Wars feeling like a classic grey one. For the Rebel Landspeeder it doesn't matter how crazy you paint it, it will always look fitting.
I collect mainly Separatists, and they are in no way “monochromatic.” B1s, B2s, Tactical Droids, Commando Droids… there’s so many cool looking models that all have different paint schemes
Leaving Warhammer for legion due to balance. I'm nota star wars fan so I'm new to all the lore and it's pretty good so far. Absolutely love how movement and list building works on legion compared to 40k. My partner is getting into empire and I'm going with republic, really hype to get games going once we have the money to start our armies
@@HollywoodWargaming I don't even get why that's in the battlefield it's like a police dropship. I mean for the Empire it makes sense but I don't get why for the clone wars
Technically, the separatist alliance and the trade federation are not the same thing. The trade federation were more of a sub-faction of the separatists.
I was just thinking about how much I would love a third party of hutts. Thinking about the possibility of tusken raiders as a corp, vehicle focus, maybe some new keyword involving hutts and really messing with the enemy activations or disrupting their plans. I get you said this 5 months ago, so know even today people are still thinking about it!
I play Empire and Rebels and even this early into the games life (40K is 40 years old) there is already enough diversity in units and ability’s and cards that I feel the different factions play significantly different. And that’s only gonna expand as we go along.
I remember from "clone wars" series that the Federation never actually joined the Confederacy. Just the Viceroy from Episode 1 and his supporters with the organisation "officially" remaining on the side of the Republic.
When me and my closest gamer group of 4 decided to dive into the game, we rolled off on which army each of us were going to play. I had to think of what I was going to do with each faction and if I got Rebels I knew I was going to do Sullust.
I think this is the first time I watched a video of yours and really enjoyed it. Great job on the breakdown of SWL factions. I subscribed and plan to check out your other videos.
Trade federation isn’t the cis neither is the Techno Union or banking clan. TF was apart of the CIS like the the countries in the UN. They contributed resources, since they were apart of the confederacy. If the trade federation joined the republic you’d still have a CIS. But great video!
STOP RIGHT THERE: yes, leia, commander Luke, Chewbacca, and a couple others have boring and weak command cards. But here’s the thing: lando, cassian, and Jyn have some of the best and most fun command cards in the game. Every army I have has one of those. Sometimes more. Edit: Tauns are THE BEST UNIT IN THE GAME. You can not change my mind. Any lackluster support for the rebels is made up by those two lizards
You say the Stormtrooper model looks bad and weird poses? Im a Separatist player to the heart but I feel the Stormtrooper models are beautifully portrayed. The lumbering armor won’t allow them to take dynamic poses and the detail is beautiful along with the shapes of the scultps. Also for those of you who want to field our beloved droids, despite what he says, some heroes do have synergies with the troops and all other units such as Count Dooku. Certain combinations of units and leaders can be devastating to your opponent. Such as Count Dooku with Magna Guards. That is a literal nuke headed towards the enemy army. Or swarms of troops with Dooku and an AAT Tank. Massive hitters that blow away your enemies army while your loyal troops mop up the mess.
thanks for the super concise video! Really hoping you'll return to the channel, I just got into legion (with a shadow collective box) and I'm crossing fingers you'll provide more content. =)
I think the fact that most of their biggest heroes came out with the initial waves hurt them. Rules were a lot more vanilla back then and FFG really taxed for the limited keywords that were around back then.
@@HollywoodWargaming I had high hopes for what some new releases would do for the faction, but aside from Sabine we haven't had much that seriously shifted the meta. Tauntauns we're good, but fleeting.
For the most part you're going to be using Named heroes. Each faction does have generic officer options like the Tactical Droid in CIS. I think they're primarily used as a minimum investment for the command requirement so more points can be spent elsewhere in the list.
It’s a genuinely good game. There’s a lot of crap out there that gets by on being Star Wars brand skin alone but Legion isn’t one of them. Very balanced, intuitive, and engaging gameplay. Also easy to collect compared to most other wargames
The way I described legion to my 40k friends is as such. The Clones=Space Marines in play style. The Empire=Imperial Guard but with better saves. The Rebel's=Tau. And the Droids as you said are the Nids.
Clones are absolutely the Marines, and CIS are more or less the Nids. However I think the empire is much more akin to the Tau in recent additions with rather middling gun line units that rely on buffs and some powerful special units. Rebels are a bit harder to pin down but I'd say maybe Genestealer Cult? Idk
@@HollywoodWargaming Rebels are Orks, confirmed.
This is so crazy to think about. The tyranids are my favorite faction in 40k. (Just started last year so new to wargaming) but as soon as I was introduced to legion I was drawn to the droid lol
@@dominicsevilla1189 same.
Empire should get some inquisitors!
or a generic emperor's hand
Cal Kestis from Jedi Fallen Order would be cool to see in Legion they could release the second or ninth sister along with him too
@@Crizzly122 I think second sister would be better than ninth. Yeah, Kal could be cool, I imagine his little droid will be like Iden's little droid, but will have treat 1 capacity 2 or something instead of shielded. It would be nice to get some cheap budget Force users, around the cost of Iden. With the inquisitors, I think they should have Block instead of deflect cause it's definitely harder to redirect shots with the spinning blade, but maybe they also get agile 2 or nimble or something
@@elilieb2073 BD-1 is so small and not meant for combat I dont think he would be his own model, I imagined him being on Cal's back and making the sculpt look really nice
@@Crizzly122 i don't really mean that way, I mean in the sense it'll be 15 points and be optional
I hope Thrawn gets his model one day. Sure he has his destroyer in Armada, but Thrawn also has a fair amount of ground combat experience. Being such a popular character I'm sure he'll be used often.
I think he has a model
@@wadewilson0155 He doesn't, but I would gladly replace Krennic's head with Thrawn tbh
There aren't any official models, but there are some great looking fan-made ones. I have one of him sitting on a throne I use as an objective. Rebellion/New Republic must capture Thrawn, the Empire must defend him
The Rebels boring to paint??? I collect all 4 factions and think the Rebels are by far the most interesting to paint.
At least if you want to keep it close to the movies etc. Empire, Republic and CIS all have so many monochromatic color schemes. White troopers, more white troopers, beige droids... But with the Rebels you can go crazy and they still fit into that Star Wars aesthetic.
Good video otherwise, but I couldn't disagree more in that specific point.
I disagree the republic you can customise your troopers and you have to remember that the 501st had blue the 212th had orange etc
@@sheepystopmotion7713 Yea, I painted my Phase 2 clones in different color shemes according to different Batallions. Nevertheless I think the Rebels are the ones you can go the craziest with, while still sticking to the lore.
An colorful ATST may look cool, but it won't give you the same Star Wars feeling like a classic grey one. For the Rebel Landspeeder it doesn't matter how crazy you paint it, it will always look fitting.
@@m.p.877 I I made my own dis for legion and there paint scheme is cyan and dark blue
@@m.p.877 hi am sheepy I lost my account so here I’m am
I collect mainly Separatists, and they are in no way “monochromatic.” B1s, B2s, Tactical Droids, Commando Droids… there’s so many cool looking models that all have different paint schemes
Separatists are honestly my favorite.
Leaving Warhammer for legion due to balance. I'm nota star wars fan so I'm new to all the lore and it's pretty good so far. Absolutely love how movement and list building works on legion compared to 40k. My partner is getting into empire and I'm going with republic, really hype to get games going once we have the money to start our armies
I just want a Laat so I can make some nose art and drop some clone Bois into the fire
Yeah Ive shifted stance on these vehicles a lot since first viewing. LAAT video coming soon.
@@HollywoodWargaming wait there's a LAAT model-
@@starguy1o163 sorry LAAT LE
@@HollywoodWargaming I don't even get why that's in the battlefield it's like a police dropship. I mean for the Empire it makes sense but I don't get why for the clone wars
@@starguy1o163it was used by both in Coruscant
Me and my wife are thinking about getting into legion this was very helpful. Thank you.
Technically, the separatist alliance and the trade federation are not the same thing. The trade federation were more of a sub-faction of the separatists.
I want to see black sun, hutts or some criminal faction
I was just thinking about how much I would love a third party of hutts.
Thinking about the possibility of tusken raiders as a corp, vehicle focus, maybe some new keyword involving hutts and really messing with the enemy activations or disrupting their plans.
I get you said this 5 months ago, so know even today people are still thinking about it!
I got good news mate
yea you getting like 4
Seppies - B1 droids are a PAIN to assemble.
I play Empire and Rebels and even this early into the games life (40K is 40 years old) there is already enough diversity in units and ability’s and cards that I feel the different factions play significantly different. And that’s only gonna expand as we go along.
every time he calls the CIS the trade federation, it hurts my soul
Actually though
It's like calling the U.K. "england" or the C.S.A. "south carolina"
Sorry, I'm an Episode I fanboy. Force of Habit.
I remember from "clone wars" series that the Federation never actually joined the Confederacy. Just the Viceroy from Episode 1 and his supporters with the organisation "officially" remaining on the side of the Republic.
You need a tougher soul
Rebels have Sabine as a potential saber wielder as well
She is not Jedi.
I think it’s funny you mentioned Sullust themed rebel cause I actually did that!!!!
When me and my closest gamer group of 4 decided to dive into the game, we rolled off on which army each of us were going to play. I had to think of what I was going to do with each faction and if I got Rebels I knew I was going to do Sullust.
I think this is the first time I watched a video of yours and really enjoyed it. Great job on the breakdown of SWL factions. I subscribed and plan to check out your other videos.
Love your channel keep up the great work man! Was wondering though if you planned on doing a video on how to build Japanese infantry?
That will likely be my next video. Difficult topic though. I’m not super familiar with the faction and their gimmicks
@@HollywoodWargaming take your time man! Do what you gotta do, your videos are always worth wistin for
Trade federation isn’t the cis neither is the Techno Union or banking clan. TF was apart of the CIS like the the countries in the UN. They contributed resources, since they were apart of the confederacy. If the trade federation joined the republic you’d still have a CIS.
But great video!
Right. It's minor but annoying.
Do the rebels have any models for the fish head people admiral ackbar people?
Note I don't know the species name of the fish head people.
Yes they do have a head for the Mon Calamari (yes thats really what theyre called lol). It's in the Specialist upgrade box I believe.
@@HollywoodWargaming so hold up they are calamari as in the Squid tenticle thing eaten in Spain?
This is a great video your channel is underrated. Thanks for the info
Not trying to nit pick but the Confederacy of independent systems or the separatist Alliance is not the Trade Federation.
Rebels boring to paint? They're the only faction that isn't monochromatic. But boring ass paint jobs are a plus for CIS? Im confused lmao
Beige is easy to paint quickly, white that looks not awful needs either oil paints or lots of layers.
I wonder if the Rebels are now better than they were when the video was created?
How can ebels be boring to paint they have the biggest range of species and colors of any faction?
Empire all the way. With the hope of purge troopers and inquisitors
Thank you. This helped a lot.
STOP RIGHT THERE: yes, leia, commander Luke, Chewbacca, and a couple others have boring and weak command cards. But here’s the thing: lando, cassian, and Jyn have some of the best and most fun command cards in the game. Every army I have has one of those. Sometimes more.
Edit: Tauns are THE BEST UNIT IN THE GAME. You can not change my mind. Any lackluster support for the rebels is made up by those two lizards
good video. keep up the good work.!
Thank You!
Thank you
i wanted to click a thumbs up but i would be number 666...i passed!!!
dew it
I like the Empire and Republic.....then the Separatists but not the Rebels....that is the disney faction....
Sir if I am playing a star wars game i am serving my emperor. No questions asked.
Great breakdown and an awesome way for new players to get into the game. Solid content
Check it.
Fast jedi character for the empire?
Starkiller...?
Unfortunately I think the Disney canon frowns upon Starkiller’s existence. Though inquisitors may be on the table.
@@HollywoodWargaming A shame seeing as the actor that played Starkiller is in tons of Star Wars material for disney
@@Maggi9909 Agreed. Not big on the games myself but it was a cool character who would be super unique in Legion.
@@HollywoodWargaming surely Starkiller belongs with the rebels though, seeing as he was the one who created the movement? (in TFU)
@@cringebutyee1326 dual oprative??
Great introduction! I might have wanted to learn about the horror of glueing the droid armies though...
You say the Stormtrooper model looks bad and weird poses?
Im a Separatist player to the heart but I feel the Stormtrooper models are beautifully portrayed. The lumbering armor won’t allow them to take dynamic poses and the detail is beautiful along with the shapes of the scultps.
Also for those of you who want to field our beloved droids, despite what he says, some heroes do have synergies with the troops and all other units such as Count Dooku.
Certain combinations of units and leaders can be devastating to your opponent. Such as Count Dooku with Magna Guards. That is a literal nuke headed towards the enemy army. Or swarms of troops with Dooku and an AAT Tank. Massive hitters that blow away your enemies army while your loyal troops mop up the mess.
thanks for the super concise video!
Really hoping you'll return to the channel, I just got into legion (with a shadow collective box) and I'm crossing fingers you'll provide more content. =)
The rebels just seem to not be competitive, which is a shame.
I think the fact that most of their biggest heroes came out with the initial waves hurt them. Rules were a lot more vanilla back then and FFG really taxed for the limited keywords that were around back then.
@@HollywoodWargaming I had high hopes for what some new releases would do for the faction, but aside from Sabine we haven't had much that seriously shifted the meta. Tauntauns we're good, but fleeting.
Strong Unit Synergy, SUS
I also love your channel! I am really waiting for the Polish army review! Keep the good work ^^
It would be nice if you could create a discord server!
If I do the Polish Army just know it will be from the Armies of the Allies book and not the Market Garden Campaign... at least for the time being,.
@@HollywoodWargaming Yeah that’s cool! Take your time!
You forgot the dark saber mando seben ren
Are you required to use named characters in Legion? I always see people using them and I don't know if it's a requirement or not.
Been wondering this as well.
For the most part you're going to be using Named heroes. Each faction does have generic officer options like the Tactical Droid in CIS. I think they're primarily used as a minimum investment for the command requirement so more points can be spent elsewhere in the list.
Bro come back to UA-cam and talk about Bolt Action.
soon
@@HollywoodWargaming 😳
I hate Star Wars I love history yet I’m compiled to watch this
It’s a genuinely good game. There’s a lot of crap out there that gets by on being Star Wars brand skin alone but Legion isn’t one of them. Very balanced, intuitive, and engaging gameplay. Also easy to collect compared to most other wargames