Don't Make My $200 Mistake Installing Transducer on Ultrex Trolling Motor - Ken Smith Fishing
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- A quick guide on mounting an external transducer on a Minn Kota Ultrex trolling motors, including how to run or route and secure the cable to keep it out of the pinch points so you don't make the same $200 mistake I did. Don'$200 mistake I made, big part is routing the cable up the Ultrex and then into the boat and unit. #kensmithfishing #Rayburnreport #Humminbird #Installingtrollingmotortransducer
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Ken, long time no see. Will jump in here with 2 cents worth. Never use zip ties on transducer cables on trolling motor shaft. Retired from Ford Motor Company as electrician. We were not allowed to use zip ties on small signal cables, they are too fragile and easily damaged by zip ties. As a fisherman, I would never use zip ties on trolling motor shaft. If a fish runs my line up trolling motor shaft, line needs to slide up or down shaft free or you can lose that fish.
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Your videos are so simple but they are really good.
Thank you...I think?
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Thanks for the video KEN, some great info!!! Could save some unnecessary costs to already very expensive equipment!! Thanks for sharing!!
I'm certified Garmin dealer/installer and they recommend electrical tape on the panoptix transducers. Lowrance on the livesight. Even then it will not void the warranty as I have sent both back for warranty with no issues after ties were used. Apparently garmin didn't know it would be an issue as the install manual changed on the fly. Standard transducers are no problem. I have started telling DYI folks to use tape as they tend to "gorilla" the ties.
I only use high quality electrical tape. It sticks well as the outdoor elements start working on it. Nothing better than 3M Scotch 33. Inexpensive tape IS NOT the same no matter what folks say.
James any other things like this we should know regarding mounting or did you see me do ANYTHING wrong here???
@@KenSmithFishing not exactly how I might do it but it will work. :-)
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Great to hear!
Glad I've waited for the Mega Side imaging / DI transducer to be built into the system. I don't know why it took them so long to build in the SI but had they had the DI available.
Electrical tape all the way.... All manufacturers have upgraded the wire on their units..but a quality electrical tape keep from damaging wires inside the outer sleeves...I use 3M-88 electrical tape. Good stuff..
Lol I don’t feel so bad about the way I handle a screw driver anymore. Good video Mr Ken.
Just had to include that, I did delete my less than proper comment after I dropped the second time
I’ve got some farming and in their owners manual it does say not to use zip ties that it will void warranty for their stuff, and in the panoptix too
Thanks, for the video. I just busted my ultrex trolling motor shaft and its in the shop now under warranty. Ive been searching how to route cable the right way because I never was sure if how I had mine was right. Surprisingly had it same way you routed yours and with tape. But my issue is it gets close to pinching my cable under mount when I deploy it. I don't have the hummingbird 360 deal.
Seems somebody could create a little bracket for it
I'm gonna try silicone tape instead of electrical. I love this stuff. No sticky mess and strong
Let us know how that works please
@@KenSmithFishing I haven't been on the water yet but it worked great(once goo gone removed all the tape residue) on the install. I think it will hold up very well
Russel Marine has an install video on the Garmin LiveScope and they say that you need to use electrical tape because the zip ties void the warranty.
It is best to never tap on (or otherwise hit) a transducer, especially the complex ones. They have numerous fragile crystals inside that you can damage with the shock from hitting them. The wires inside the cable are fragile, and there's a woven EMI shield around them inside the insulation. If you cinch it down with cable ties, you could damage what's inside, but also I'd be concerned that an impedance discontinuity might occur (because you change the shape of the cable by flattening it out). An impedance discontinuity can cause signal reflections inside the cable; this has the potential to affect the quality of the displayed signal, or even add noise to the screen. With all that said, I think it's better to tape than to zip-tie, thereby avoiding possible issues, regardless of whether they decline warranty coverage. Years ago, when transducers were typically a two wire circuit, zip-ties were probably less of a risk, and I used them without issue. With the complex transducers we have today, I've changed my mind.
You probably saw me realize that as I started whacking it
You can still use the channel. All you have to do is shave that first bracket down on the cable side and it won't pinch.
ken did u leave your us2 cable attached great vidieo thanks
No wire cables, I’ve heard the same thing
They make zip tie pliers that will pull them so tight that they will cut into the wires. That is what will void your warranty. Just don’t over tighten the zip ties and you should be fine.
ashmore cable keeper for minn kota trolling motor
Those are nice Ron
I have a Garmin 93sv on order it will come with the GT54 transducer. I will be running a Garmin Livescope through the 93sv. I will have the Livescope ducer on a pole, (Seelite) and I want to mount the GT54 ducer on the same pole. Is there a mount for this that will work without either one interfering with the other's beam ? I do not want to run any ducer off my trolling motor since I have a Minnkota Riptide ST with the shaft that slides through a block. I have run a ducer off that motor but just doesn't work well...thanks.
Man that’s above my pay grade, call the boys at Jones in Texarkana they may know
Ken thanks for the infromation. I have a guestion not related. Can you tell me brand metal building your boat barn is from. I am a metal building erector and have not see that design. Please let me know the brand your boat is. Your trolling motor infromation was valuable infrom that could save alot of money
Thanks so much I have subscribed to your channel.
Respectfully yours
Billy Booth
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Where did you get your 360 mount from thanks
I found it on Facebook, a guy was making and selling them, there’s a group called Humminbird mega 360 friends, several options there and usually some good used stuff too
Why do you not use the transducer built into the ultrex?
I run G2N and there is not internal transducer for DI for G2N
What bracket is that mounting the 360 on that ultrex?
Something I found on Facebook, aftermarket about 1/2 price of HBirds
$35 Ram , just FYI. Thanks nice video
Cool, thanks
Just out of curiosity what length shaft is your Ultrex? TIA
It’s the short one, I wanna say 45”?
Are you running two transducers in the front for the 10 and the 12 or are they networked?
Smokn I have the Helix 12 connected to an external DI transducer on the Minn Kota (mine were of the generation that you couldn’t get DI transducer built in) and then it’s also connected to the 360. The other 12 up front is the Garmin and it’s connected to the livesecope transducer which can be used for livescope or DI
@@KenSmithFishing I see so they are running off two different frequencies so it doesn't that talk.
Okay Mr. Smith, after doing the install of the cable to the top of the 360 how did that work out for you? I am installing a Mega DI transducer on my Ultrex and am to that point! Thanks for the video.
Has worked great Eddie
@@KenSmithFishing Thanks Ken. I had installed a transducer on an Ultrex before, but added a Mega DI to the new boat along with Mega 360, hope to test it this week!!
Ken so you made a Comment that you have GEN two hummingbirds and you’re running a 360 on the front is that true, I would like to have a 360. But I didn’t know it would work with a gen two
Flint Ralston gen2 will run 360 but not MEGA 360
Correct Chris
Chris Evans thanks for the answer
what do you have aganst fans
Fans?
I used electrical tape also
No, I think it needs another snush.
Where did you get the adapter to run fortrex 360 on the ultrex?
found it on Facebook