After everyone dragged her saying she is talking too much about him and needs to let him it go? I think she should keep it private because people are too mean
You may feel like it’s time but she may not! Please be respectful of her feelings. She may not be emotionally ready to share a painful part of her life.
I loved hearing about how Natalie and Iyana didnt like each other at first but ended up being close friends after. It's funny how that can happen. I've also experienced this thinking a girl at work was a total B and fast forward to many years later, she's one of my greatest and most trusted friends. It's hard as an adult to make genuine connections and know who you can trust, but im so glad you guys were open to one another and built a beautiful friendship. You can tell there is so much love, respect and honesty there.
I agree! I found out after TEN years of being genuine, best friends with someone that I couldn't trust them anymore, and that really hurts. Since then I haven't been able to make new friends now as an almost 30-year-old, like you said about finding genuine connections as an adult.
I had something similar happen at work way back in 1994. One of the ladies there was notorious for being a loner. She didn't socialize at all, would speak and keep moving, and some of the people were scared of her. She said something to me once and I didn't like the way she said it so I told her to basically F off. Later she came to me and said, "Don't ever speak to me like that again." I apologized and said, "Yes ma'am." Then she asked if I wanted to have lunch the next day. Now, here we are 29 years later. We are STILL best friends, she is Godmother to my sons, and no one who used to work with us back then can understand why.
I really resonate with Iyanna’s experience. My ex was very similar with the lying, lack of maturity, manipulation and gaslighting. Since I knew the things he went through that made him that way and other sides of him others didn’t see I chose to give him grace many times, even to my own detriment. It took me a long time to honestly and openly talk about the ways that he mistreated me; I didn’t want to taint other people’s perspective of him.
Iyanna is such a lovely, sweet and beautiful human being ❤ Love to see she’s doing great nowadays! And everything she said about the show is spot on. It promotes trauma bonding, love bombing, it makes you live in a bubble until after you are married, you cannot talk to family and friends while in the pods, which makes the experience even more surreal, you drink tons of wine, sleep a few hours and hang out only with strangers for awhile… the whole thing is the perfect receipt for a disaster! Apart from Cam and Lauren (and maybe Zack and Bliss), the Love is blind experiment is failing, romantically wise.
Excuse my language but I knew Jarrett wasn’t s**t from the jump. His energy just gave off very much immature, disloyal, lost soul. He was very much lucky to have iyanna and have her react to that information in the email the way she did because had it been anyone such as myself he’d be laying in the ICU. Much respect to her for handling it gracefully and dignified. I pray she is able to heal, learn, grow and overcome this public humiliation and private mental turmoil and manipulation and god unveils the true king she deserves when she’s ready.
The Mallory-Jarrette-Iyanna triangle reminds me of the Josh-Jackelina-Marshall triangle from season 4. Mallory and Jarrette seem like they are used to a more toxic and immature dynamic
Thank you ladies for being so transparent and vulnerable. Ayanna you're such a loving, genuine and kind soul 🥺I also tried to take my ex to therapy with me and get him to heal and become self aware because he genuinely isn't a bad person.. but the unhealed version of him has toxic tendencies 😞You aren't a punching bag and you can't wait on someone to grow at the expense of your peace and mental well-being 😕You did what was best for you! Don't beat yourself up over your choice because you were sold a dream in the pods! Jarette should have known that he isn't marriage minded at this current stage in his life 🤦🏽♀️Nonetheless, women fall in love with a man's words and men fall in love with what they see.. women just need to be aware of a man's actions and obey their intuition ♥️Manifesting a beautiful, safe and healthy love for you three 🤗
I am SO happy that Iyanna is the first guest for this amazing podcast! I love all 3 of you but Iyanna takes the cake for me! My boyfriend actually contacted her and I have a cameo of her telling me “Happy Birthday”! Literally if everything else from my phone has to get deleted, I WILL SAVE MY BDAY CAMEO FROM My BOO IYANNA❤!! Thank you for making this pod cast! This shed so much light! 🥰
Iyanna's experience reminds me of my last traumatic relationship. I so wanted it to work and my whole intuition was screaming...I started checking phones, social media, everything. I almost became obsessed. At the end I had to choose my mental health. Today I am in a very healthy relationship. But it took more than a year to get over that.
This is what I love about America. We can all be diverse and come from different cultures and ethnicities, but still share our emotions and feelings as Americans.
Many guys want an open relationship, but only for themselves. That’s called sexism, patriarchy, my girl. Yianna is so sweet, she reminds me of myself after divorce trying to realize what had happened. Many many men treat women as lesser ppl. It is NOT about you. Move on stronger ❤✊🏻
Jarrette isn’t “unhealed” stop excusing his shitty behavior. He is a grown adult who made these decisions repeatedly. He didn’t have any fight in him because 1. He wasn’t actually ready for marriage to begin with. And 2. Iyanna wasn’t his dream girl. Once you realize that a man has to be with who he truly wants to be with that’s the only time he will put in enough effort and want to grow. Once a man gives you any hint that you’re not his dream girl, EXIT. Do not stick around.
@@sholay706 False. Whoever you’re referring to isn’t your dream man. Your dream man is a man you love but he must love you more than you love him. Women are naturally caregivers and caretakers. The only way to be a dream girl is to make sure he loves you a little more and knows you will leave if he doesn’t fall in line.
@F M So you don't have any control on who u fall in love with? You can love someone that doesn't love you and a man can love u but u don't love so what are you talking about ? A lot of men love women who don't love them back and vice versa
@@sholay706 You don’t have control of who you fall in love with but you have control over who you stay with. Anyways, if you want to stay in a situation where a man loves you less then good luck. Hope it turns out well and you’re not on here complaining.
@F M All I am saying is girls care about power , influence and money and will date a powerful man that is taken so your take on ensuring he loves you is not the reality. Too many women and few men so nowadays a man or a woman can be the prize
A trauma bond is the attachment an abused person feels for their abuser,specifically in a relationship with a cyclical pattern of abuse.The bond is created due to a cycle of abuse and positive reinforcement.
Thanks, Star! I came to the comments to say the same thing. I think an alternative phrase for this type of situation might be "bonding over shared trauma."
@@joanna0988 It’s called friendship! All close relationships are based on shared experiences or similar pasts. Sometimes the shared experience was a painful one. All that means is that you were unable to hide behind false facades like most friendships do for years. The situation allowed you to leap frog levels of vulnerability. It’s unfortunate that pop psychology has people convinced that this purer form of friendship is actually the corrupted one because they misunderstood the term “trauma bond”.
Coming from watching your season because I really felt in love with you all. Damn men, I really was thinking about her the whole time, so much you guys had to go through and happy you are in your own way addressing the concerns in the industry and caring about the colleagues you went with through this experience, which really speaks about your character
I loveeee your friendship! Iyannas story is so inspiring and I felt so happy for her when she said she felt so much lighter after the divorce ; it showed and can be felt through the screen. Love that she chose herself and that you all held space to have a conversation like this to help so many others. Great episode! 💯💕⭐️
Love that you are talking about not drinking for some time! I work as an addiction counselor and it makes me so sad that alcohol is such a huge accepted drug in society. People don’t get how destructive it can get. There are other things to experience in life😊😊 Thanks for the rest of the talk too :)
Nat/Deepti, thank you for allowing her this safe space and friendship l. Iyana, thank you for standing up for your truth, your bravery and vulnerability. ♥️
Great interview! All 3 of you are great! Can bring Zack to the show? Also shine some light on the living conditions some cast members were talking about?
He probably love bombed her and mirrored her personnality. Just look at his relationship with Chloe on Love is blind. He's probably really exciting at first, but it quickly goes downhill after that, because he's not genuine. He's only looking for any kind of validation.
Season 2 cast is still my fave, you 3 are so genuine and you guys will probs always be my fave. I think you guys also expose the show and the people surrounding it. Which is honestly so needed.
I’ve been there girl. I’ve been cheated on by a covert narcissist, and I did all the same things you did. But now that I know what I know and have gone through a lot of healing through my faith and therapy, I no longer cover up for people who behave badly. I will not try to help them avoid accountability. If they wanted to be represented in a good light, they should’ve behaved better.
Y'all, sharing one's pain/trauma with another is NOT trauma bonding. That's just plain old sharing/bonding. "Trauma bonding happens when an abuser uses manipulation tactics and cycles of abuse to make the victim feel dependent on them for care and validation, causing a strong attachment or bond. This often occurs in romantic narcissistic relationships, but can also occur in families, friendships, or work relationships."
Refusing to take accountability makes Jarette a bad person. Lots of people are unhealed, not everyone chooses to repeatedly cause harm. It's not an excuse.
Jarette is an overgrown boy. He will regret losing a good woman. He wasn’t ready to be with her and marry her fully. If he really loved her, he never would’ve put her through any of that.
This was a really interesting podcast to watch/listen to. I think there is a lot that most of us miss or can't see objectively when we are in a relationship with someone and like Iyanna said everything moved so quickly. I think watching the show and watching Jarette I think most viewers very quickly realized that he wasn't really ready to make a change even though I think he knew he needed to in order to transition to role of husband. I think maybe there was this underlying fear that if he wasn't party-stay-out-all-night Jarette then who was he? So there would be lkke this discinnect from an identity he found comfort in attaching to. So being a husband meant giving up aspects of himself in some way. That can be very scary. I think a lot of women stay with someone because they think that if they just give this person all this love and affection and care even though their own boundaries are being disrespected in some way that this other person will change but more often than not this doesn't happen. I think Iyanna fought with her intuition a lot when she decided to stay but i also think she checked out of their marraige at a certain point and when she chose to get divirced she was honest with herself and that is such a powerful moment. ❤
after this interview I am a little more relieved and I am proud of you Iyanna. life goes on and above all don't be discouraged, the person you need will come one day. thank you Deepti and Natali you are adorable
I love that yall have friends to be able to share your introspection with on such a unique journey😊. My first heart break was lonely😅. Also, I hope that when you find your people that you have nothing but peace and clarity. When I got married I felt that months before and it never waivered even when life wasn’t perfect because his character was so consistent❤
Okay Natalie, you are an amazing interviewer. You are asking all the questions we want to ask! Or at least the ones I personally want the answers too so hey I'm a fan :) Excited to watch more!
As an Empath, I 100% understand why she felt the responsibility to protect her ex husband. One thing you have to be careful of as an Empath is believing you are the guiding light to someone elses healing. You are not and they will be fine without you. Watching Jarrette was frustrating for me because the gift of gaslight was as strong as Jackie's jaw (I know.. I know that was so bad). I got tired of hearing him talk about what he needed to do and not do it. I wanted to believe him because he sounded so sure. God will put you through things to grow you in certain areas, there are no mistakes. It looks like Iyanna understands that and that's all that needs to happen from this situation. Good luck girlie ❤❤
How free you feel is such a testament to you making the right decision! It should inspire the rest of us who stay in relationships when we shouldn’t. The grass is greener ;)))
Iyana is litrlly most of us. There were many redflags where she could have paused or left the guy but chose not to see them. Just becuase she thought she was in love and wanted the guy. I guess most people must have already expected that their relationship wouldnt last. Im sure they must have had a good bonding for a while but there are also redflags that she ignored. But yes such a sweet girl, you deserve good in life. ❤
You guys are using "trauma bond" incorrectly just a heads up. If y'all were trauma bonded that would mean you guys caused one another trauma and have held onto it as an intimate moment that has kept you guys together, not that you guys bonded over the same trauma
The fact that a complete stranger had more respect for her than her husband because she noticed a woman's things in the apartment and realized he wasn't available. Absolutely terrible. But those ladies are amazing for telling the truth and dipping. Also, his story doesn't make any sense. 2 women would not randomly go to a strange man's house drunk after a night out. That's such a dangerous situation? There was definitely something more there. She wouldn't remember that many details about her apartment if she was that drunk. And if she was, that actually makes Jared look worse.
Iyanna is courageous to share this... I saw at the reunion they were not in synch. Anyway, trauma bonding is so real especially women who go into fix mode with a man. I am guilty for that too but I came to realize just because you are on a journey or know what's best for someone they may not appreciate it or even value it. It is better to just do you and quickly let go what does not align. The other person is an adult and they are going to be okay... Let them deal with their own things themselves
“Trauma bonding occurs when a person experiencing abuse develops an unhealthy attachment to their abuser. They may rationalize or defend the abusive actions, feel a sense of loyalty, isolate from others, and hope that the abuser's behavior will change.” So can we please stop using this word? Great episode otherwise.
@@nursingwithjon mmm I’d say definitely not bring people on their podcast if it’s to confront people. I just like to hear their thoughts, experiences and their lives after the show.
@@anabellperez4002 right. But don’t they get slandered through the media enough where it would be nice to hear their side too rather than just from Natalie and Deepti?
I totally get what Iyanna was saying about him bringing it up only at the end to try and make her look bad. My ex did that for years after our separation and subsequent divorce. He would remind me that I slapped him completely leaving out that he had pushed me across room until he had me cornered against a cabinet with his hand around my neck and had hit me in my face and I was trying to get away. The gas lighting is no joke.
I love Iyanna so much. I can’t wait til she’s ready to date again. She’s so introspective, so I know it’ll take awhile, but I would love for someone to just treat her like the queen that she is ❤❤
He definitely gaslighted her so bad. This stuff can have you feeling crazy because the narc dismantles the trust you have within yourself, you’re constantly doubting instinct and so you want to leave but can’t trust your own decisions. It’s wild. And she’s so emotional intelligent it’s shocking how she stayed.. 90 days is enough to know someone.. they were in an inflated over stimulated experiment, but she made the right choice eventually.
I found very interesting when you all talked about the LISB experience I think I would be great to know so much more about what you lived there, like the whole experience of being away from everyone and everything, how it is to be filmed every time and things like that. Thank you girls ❤
omg I love this podcast. Natalie, great job asking the right questions and interviewing. Iyanna, thanks for sharing your side of the story with gentleness and compassion for Jared. I know it didn't work out, but i love that you didn't let the public bash him. The wrath of the internet is scary to see.
I didn't like how Deepti and Natalie mocked Kyle's appearance from LIB season 4. You would think they would understand how it feels to be bullied especially after so many people made fun of Deepti's and Natalie's looks.
The audio on UA-cam is so much worse than Spotify. Levels are off and it lowered when Iyanna came on. I love seeing y’all’s faces but I have to listen on Spotify bc of how inconsistent is it on here :( please fix! Great content so far
Yes the sound is very off! I had to turn it all the way up and it still was wasn’t loud enough while I’m doing things around the house. Hope they fix it going forward 😊
I actually like Natalie and Deepti on the show and afterwards, but the podcast plays it too safe at times that it borders on boring. I felt Iyanna was more raw with her emotions and response on her podcast and LLB91. This feels more rehearsed and safe.
Do u blame them tho? If they have a different opinion from the general consensus people attack them. It's so disgusting seeing women bash them bc of their age so I honestly don't blame them for being safe. Women r horrible
I remembered to seeing the reunion and them sticking together, and for some reason, I just couldn’t really believe that they were OK because the character I saw moving towards them getting married he just portrayed someone that was not ready, and in my opinion she gave in to a person that should’ve never had a chance with her of course I know she chose to MoveOn and decide to commit to this man for her own reasons, but this went on long enough so thankfully, she has decided to move on with her life without this man and hopefully she starts a clean slate and learns from this to not give chances to a man that never should’ve reserved a spot in her heart
Iyanas situation was a mistake from being drunk that’s not her regular behavior …Jareds a** his entire behavior in the relationship was a PATTERN so the fact that he used that against her and was obviously stewing on that for the whole time to excuse his behavior, he’s such a narcissist and POS
Respectfully, trauma-bonded doesn't mean what y'all think it means. PLEASE look up the definition or read the other well-worded definitions in the comments before you keep using that term INCORRECTLY. Thanks so much!
Jarette is 100% lying and wants to be married living a single life. But Iyanna is sugarcoating that story. The only grace I think she gets is because the relationship was very new at that point. If the behavior wasn't repeated, he is using it to have something to old onto to justify his actions.
This woman is such a light. Her person will find her and love her and cherish her in a way she could never imagine. I love that for her ❤️
Natalie and deeptis voices are perfect for a podcast!!! Wishing you ladies the upmost success in this 👏🏾
I love listening to their voices ❤ so soothing!
Love that your season of LIB was fully of strong and independent women who stand together. It’s a breath of fresh air
Totally agree....not the mean girls in season 4.❤
When is Natalie gonna share her truth about her & Shane? I feel like it’s time girly
Exactly!
Agree. Iyanna has been honest so hopefully Natalie will as well
After everyone dragged her saying she is talking too much about him and needs to let him it go? I think she should keep it private because people are too mean
You may feel like it’s time but she may not! Please be respectful of her feelings. She may not be emotionally ready to share a painful part of her life.
Was just thinking this. He totally has a drug problem. At least I think so
Iyanna is so well spoken. Love her and wish her the best ❤
I loved hearing about how Natalie and Iyana didnt like each other at first but ended up being close friends after. It's funny how that can happen. I've also experienced this thinking a girl at work was a total B and fast forward to many years later, she's one of my greatest and most trusted friends. It's hard as an adult to make genuine connections and know who you can trust, but im so glad you guys were open to one another and built a beautiful friendship. You can tell there is so much love, respect and honesty there.
I agree! I found out after TEN years of being genuine, best friends with someone that I couldn't trust them anymore, and that really hurts. Since then I haven't been able to make new friends now as an almost 30-year-old, like you said about finding genuine connections as an adult.
I had something similar happen at work way back in 1994. One of the ladies there was notorious for being a loner. She didn't socialize at all, would speak and keep moving, and some of the people were scared of her. She said something to me once and I didn't like the way she said it so I told her to basically F off. Later she came to me and said, "Don't ever speak to me like that again." I apologized and said, "Yes ma'am." Then she asked if I wanted to have lunch the next day. Now, here we are 29 years later. We are STILL best friends, she is Godmother to my sons, and no one who used to work with us back then can understand why.
!!
Natalie is a great interviewer and Deepti's voice is so perfect for a podcast. Great job ladies.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾♥️
Iyanna is very emotionally intelligent and expreses her thoughts and emotions extremely well. kudos!
Yeah, I'm so jealous lol. That is like a superpower in my eyes.
I want to be like her 😭
Please host Mallory 🙃 We need her side of the story about being seen drunk with another guy
Yeah I wanna know too cause I liked Mallory
yes!
Yes!!!!
I heard this too! Who said this alleged rumor?
I so much love Mallory
I remember in this season screaming at the TV for Iyanna to run. She deserved so much more and his narcissism and immaturity was so evident.
Yet she was attracted to the toxicity
What a beautifully diverse set of people. Y’all may not have found a partner but you found something better - each other!
Amen 🙌🏼
And that's on periodt
Interview starts at 7:03
Thank youuu!!
Thanks!
Thank you 😅
I really resonate with Iyanna’s experience. My ex was very similar with the lying, lack of maturity, manipulation and gaslighting. Since I knew the things he went through that made him that way and other sides of him others didn’t see I chose to give him grace many times, even to my own detriment. It took me a long time to honestly and openly talk about the ways that he mistreated me; I didn’t want to taint other people’s perspective of him.
Iyanna is such a lovely, sweet and beautiful human being ❤ Love to see she’s doing great nowadays!
And everything she said about the show is spot on. It promotes trauma bonding, love bombing, it makes you live in a bubble until after you are married, you cannot talk to family and friends while in the pods, which makes the experience even more surreal, you drink tons of wine, sleep a few hours and hang out only with strangers for awhile… the whole thing is the perfect receipt for a disaster!
Apart from Cam and Lauren (and maybe Zack and Bliss), the Love is blind experiment is failing, romantically wise.
what about tiff and brett?
Tiff and Brett are definitely the main success story of season 4 for me.
Amber and Barnett have stuck together as well
The cheating conversation starts at 34:00mins 😊
Thanks 😊
Thank you I was looking for this comment 😂
🤣🤣🤣
you're a hero 👑
thank you!! whew
Excuse my language but I knew Jarrett wasn’t s**t from the jump. His energy just gave off very much immature, disloyal, lost soul. He was very much lucky to have iyanna and have her react to that information in the email the way she did because had it been anyone such as myself he’d be laying in the ICU. Much respect to her for handling it gracefully and dignified. I pray she is able to heal, learn, grow and overcome this public humiliation and private mental turmoil and manipulation and god unveils the true king she deserves when she’s ready.
The Mallory-Jarrette-Iyanna triangle reminds me of the Josh-Jackelina-Marshall triangle from season 4. Mallory and Jarrette seem like they are used to a more toxic and immature dynamic
Thank you ladies for being so transparent and vulnerable. Ayanna you're such a loving, genuine and kind soul 🥺I also tried to take my ex to therapy with me and get him to heal and become self aware because he genuinely isn't a bad person.. but the unhealed version of him has toxic tendencies 😞You aren't a punching bag and you can't wait on someone to grow at the expense of your peace and mental well-being 😕You did what was best for you! Don't beat yourself up over your choice because you were sold a dream in the pods! Jarette should have known that he isn't marriage minded at this current stage in his life 🤦🏽♀️Nonetheless, women fall in love with a man's words and men fall in love with what they see.. women just need to be aware of a man's actions and obey their intuition ♥️Manifesting a beautiful, safe and healthy love for you three 🤗
I am SO happy that Iyanna is the first guest for this amazing podcast! I love all 3 of you but Iyanna takes the cake for me! My boyfriend actually contacted her and I have a cameo of her telling me “Happy Birthday”! Literally if everything else from my phone has to get deleted, I WILL SAVE MY BDAY CAMEO FROM My BOO IYANNA❤!! Thank you for making this pod cast! This shed so much light! 🥰
Iyanna's experience reminds me of my last traumatic relationship. I so wanted it to work and my whole intuition was screaming...I started checking phones, social media, everything. I almost became obsessed. At the end I had to choose my mental health. Today I am in a very healthy relationship. But it took more than a year to get over that.
This is what I love about America. We can all be diverse and come from different cultures and ethnicities, but still share our emotions and feelings as Americans.
Iyanna is wise beyond her years ❤
She is so articulate and I'm so glad she's sharing her story. I learn so much from you ladies just by hearing your stories.
Many guys want an open relationship, but only for themselves. That’s called sexism, patriarchy, my girl. Yianna is so sweet, she reminds me of myself after divorce trying to realize what had happened. Many many men treat women as lesser ppl. It is NOT about you. Move on stronger ❤✊🏻
If you've ever been GASLIT, you know exactly what she went through!
Absolutely
Jarrette isn’t “unhealed” stop excusing his shitty behavior. He is a grown adult who made these decisions repeatedly. He didn’t have any fight in him because 1. He wasn’t actually ready for marriage to begin with. And 2. Iyanna wasn’t his dream girl. Once you realize that a man has to be with who he truly wants to be with that’s the only time he will put in enough effort and want to grow. Once a man gives you any hint that you’re not his dream girl, EXIT. Do not stick around.
How do u exit when he is your dream man??
@@sholay706 False. Whoever you’re referring to isn’t your dream man. Your dream man is a man you love but he must love you more than you love him. Women are naturally caregivers and caretakers. The only way to be a dream girl is to make sure he loves you a little more and knows you will leave if he doesn’t fall in line.
@F M So you don't have any control on who u fall in love with? You can love someone that doesn't love you and a man can love u but u don't love so what are you talking about ? A lot of men love women who don't love them back and vice versa
@@sholay706 You don’t have control of who you fall in love with but you have control over who you stay with. Anyways, if you want to stay in a situation where a man loves you less then good luck. Hope it turns out well and you’re not on here complaining.
@F M All I am saying is girls care about power , influence and money and will date a powerful man that is taken so your take on ensuring he loves you is not the reality. Too many women and few men so nowadays a man or a woman can be the prize
A trauma bond is the attachment an abused person feels for their abuser,specifically in a relationship with a cyclical pattern of abuse.The bond is created due to a cycle of abuse and positive reinforcement.
People misuse the term often but there must be a term for bonding with people during stressful or unique situations?
Thanks for clearing this up for us!
Wowww! I can't believe I'm just now finding out that I have heard this term used incorrectly all this time. Thank you for educating us.
Thanks, Star! I came to the comments to say the same thing. I think an alternative phrase for this type of situation might be "bonding over shared trauma."
@@joanna0988 It’s called friendship! All close relationships are based on shared experiences or similar pasts. Sometimes the shared experience was a painful one. All that means is that you were unable to hide behind false facades like most friendships do for years. The situation allowed you to leap frog levels of vulnerability. It’s unfortunate that pop psychology has people convinced that this purer form of friendship is actually the corrupted one because they misunderstood the term “trauma bond”.
Coming from watching your season because I really felt in love with you all. Damn men, I really was thinking about her the whole time, so much you guys had to go through and happy you are in your own way addressing the concerns in the industry and caring about the colleagues you went with through this experience, which really speaks about your character
I loveeee your friendship! Iyannas story is so inspiring and I felt so happy for her when she said she felt so much lighter after the divorce ; it showed and can be felt through the screen. Love that she chose herself and that you all held space to have a conversation like this to help so many others. Great episode! 💯💕⭐️
Love that you are talking about not drinking for some time! I work as an addiction counselor and it makes me so sad that alcohol is such a huge accepted drug in society. People don’t get how destructive it can get. There are other things to experience in life😊😊 Thanks for the rest of the talk too :)
Nat/Deepti, thank you for allowing her this safe space and friendship l. Iyana, thank you for standing up for your truth, your bravery and vulnerability. ♥️
Great interview! All 3 of you are great!
Can bring Zack to the show?
Also shine some light on the living conditions some cast members were talking about?
Zack or Marshall!
Marshall!!
I never understood what in the heck Natalie saw in Shane?? For the life of me night and day. He's really woo hooo😳😳
He probably love bombed her and mirrored her personnality. Just look at his relationship with Chloe on Love is blind. He's probably really exciting at first, but it quickly goes downhill after that, because he's not genuine. He's only looking for any kind of validation.
I mean : his relationship with Chloe on *Perfect Match*
Some people are attracted to that kind of fun crazy personality
She's more calm, methodical and leveled - he probably helped her to get out of her shell and be more spontaneous and light-hearted
He seriously looks like Gary Busey‘s son!
Season 2 cast is still my fave, you 3 are so genuine and you guys will probs always be my fave. I think you guys also expose the show and the people surrounding it. Which is honestly so needed.
I love their friendship it's so nice to see a space where women can just support each other
Deepti's voice is so soothing!
Iyanna is such a class act!!! I hope you guys find the love you deserve. ❤
This was such a great podcast!! Loved hearing her story! 💕👏🏾👏🏾
I’ve been there girl. I’ve been cheated on by a covert narcissist, and I did all the same things you did. But now that I know what I know and have gone through a lot of healing through my faith and therapy, I no longer cover up for people who behave badly. I will not try to help them avoid accountability. If they wanted to be represented in a good light, they should’ve behaved better.
Iyanna speaks so beautifully. She's a true gem.
I want Mallory next please!! 🙏🏼
Iyanna is such a wonderful human being. I wish her to find someone who understands and appreciates her. ❤️
Y'all, sharing one's pain/trauma with another is NOT trauma bonding. That's just plain old sharing/bonding.
"Trauma bonding happens when an abuser uses manipulation tactics and cycles of abuse to make the victim feel dependent on them for care and validation, causing a strong attachment or bond. This often occurs in romantic narcissistic relationships, but can also occur in families, friendships, or work relationships."
Refusing to take accountability makes Jarette a bad person. Lots of people are unhealed, not everyone chooses to repeatedly cause harm. It's not an excuse.
Jarette is an overgrown boy. He will regret losing a good woman. He wasn’t ready to be with her and marry her fully. If he really loved her, he never would’ve put her through any of that.
This was a really interesting podcast to watch/listen to. I think there is a lot that most of us miss or can't see objectively when we are in a relationship with someone and like Iyanna said everything moved so quickly. I think watching the show and watching Jarette I think most viewers very quickly realized that he wasn't really ready to make a change even though I think he knew he needed to in order to transition to role of husband. I think maybe there was this underlying fear that if he wasn't party-stay-out-all-night Jarette then who was he? So there would be lkke this discinnect from an identity he found comfort in attaching to. So being a husband meant giving up aspects of himself in some way. That can be very scary. I think a lot of women stay with someone because they think that if they just give this person all this love and affection and care even though their own boundaries are being disrespected in some way that this other person will change but more often than not this doesn't happen. I think Iyanna fought with her intuition a lot when she decided to stay but i also think she checked out of their marraige at a certain point and when she chose to get divirced she was honest with herself and that is such a powerful moment. ❤
I’m glad she finally shared her story.
Never trust a guy’s words. Trust his actions only.
after this interview I am a little more relieved and I am proud of you Iyanna. life goes on and above all don't be discouraged, the person you need will come one day.
thank you Deepti and Natali you are adorable
What kind of fool cheats on this amazing woman? Iyanna is so freaking wonderful.
This was such a great interview! Natalie & Deepti did well.
if we’re together you ain’t bringing NO GIRLS over PERIOD! so glad you got out when you did. you deserve love and respect!
Guys, whats up with de 360p quality? This is bad. I wanted to see you guys in high-quality.
I love that yall have friends to be able to share your introspection with on such a unique journey😊. My first heart break was lonely😅. Also, I hope that when you find your people that you have nothing but peace and clarity. When I got married I felt that months before and it never waivered even when life wasn’t perfect because his character was so consistent❤
Deepti's voice is so beautiful. Perfect for the radio or podcasts!
It is!
I've noticed alot if desi eomen have that rich deeper tone
Okay Natalie, you are an amazing interviewer. You are asking all the questions we want to ask! Or at least the ones I personally want the answers too so hey I'm a fan :) Excited to watch more!
As an Empath, I 100% understand why she felt the responsibility to protect her ex husband. One thing you have to be careful of as an Empath is believing you are the guiding light to someone elses healing. You are not and they will be fine without you. Watching Jarrette was frustrating for me because the gift of gaslight was as strong as Jackie's jaw (I know.. I know that was so bad). I got tired of hearing him talk about what he needed to do and not do it. I wanted to believe him because he sounded so sure. God will put you through things to grow you in certain areas, there are no mistakes. It looks like Iyanna understands that and that's all that needs to happen from this situation. Good luck girlie ❤❤
“As an empath…” 🙄🙄🙄
How free you feel is such a testament to you making the right decision! It should inspire the rest of us who stay in relationships when we shouldn’t. The grass is greener ;)))
Iyanna is so well-spoken and great at pin-pointing what she was working through. Great episode!
Iyana is litrlly most of us. There were many redflags where she could have paused or left the guy but chose not to see them. Just becuase she thought she was in love and wanted the guy.
I guess most people must have already expected that their relationship wouldnt last.
Im sure they must have had a good bonding for a while but there are also redflags that she ignored. But yes such a sweet girl, you deserve good in life. ❤
You guys are using "trauma bond" incorrectly just a heads up. If y'all were trauma bonded that would mean you guys caused one another trauma and have held onto it as an intimate moment that has kept you guys together, not that you guys bonded over the same trauma
The fact that a complete stranger had more respect for her than her husband because she noticed a woman's things in the apartment and realized he wasn't available. Absolutely terrible. But those ladies are amazing for telling the truth and dipping. Also, his story doesn't make any sense. 2 women would not randomly go to a strange man's house drunk after a night out. That's such a dangerous situation? There was definitely something more there. She wouldn't remember that many details about her apartment if she was that drunk. And if she was, that actually makes Jared look worse.
Deeptis voice is so calming
Praying she finds the love she deserves. Jared needs to grow up! Hurting someone intentionally is just disgusting.
Iyanna is courageous to share this... I saw at the reunion they were not in synch. Anyway, trauma bonding is so real especially women who go into fix mode with a man. I am guilty for that too but I came to realize just because you are on a journey or know what's best for someone they may not appreciate it or even value it. It is better to just do you and quickly let go what does not align. The other person is an adult and they are going to be okay... Let them deal with their own things themselves
“Trauma bonding occurs when a person experiencing abuse develops an unhealthy attachment to their abuser. They may rationalize or defend the abusive actions, feel a sense of loyalty, isolate from others, and hope that the abuser's behavior will change.”
So can we please stop using this word? Great episode otherwise.
This annoyed me as well, thank you!!!
I definitely want to hear one of the guys perspective on their love is blind experience next!
Like Shayne or Shake? Then the could confront these two who like to continue to talk about them….
@@nursingwithjon mmm I’d say definitely not bring people on their podcast if it’s to confront people. I just like to hear their thoughts, experiences and their lives after the show.
@@anabellperez4002 right. But don’t they get slandered through the media enough where it would be nice to hear their side too rather than just from Natalie and Deepti?
Yes! Maybe someone from a season other than season 3.
I totally get what Iyanna was saying about him bringing it up only at the end to try and make her look bad. My ex did that for years after our separation and subsequent divorce. He would remind me that I slapped him completely leaving out that he had pushed me across room until he had me cornered against a cabinet with his hand around my neck and had hit me in my face and I was trying to get away.
The gas lighting is no joke.
I love me some Iyanna! She’s the cutest hope she finds true love
I love Iyanna so much. I can’t wait til she’s ready to date again. She’s so introspective, so I know it’ll take awhile, but I would love for someone to just treat her like the queen that she is ❤❤
He definitely gaslighted her so bad. This stuff can have you feeling crazy because the narc dismantles the trust you have within yourself, you’re constantly doubting instinct and so you want to leave but can’t trust your own decisions. It’s wild. And she’s so emotional intelligent it’s shocking how she stayed..
90 days is enough to know someone.. they were in an inflated over stimulated experiment, but she made the right choice eventually.
I found very interesting when you all talked about the LISB experience I think I would be great to know so much more about what you lived there, like the whole experience of being away from everyone and everything, how it is to be filmed every time and things like that. Thank you girls ❤
omg I love this podcast. Natalie, great job asking the right questions and interviewing. Iyanna, thanks for sharing your side of the story with gentleness and compassion for Jared. I know it didn't work out, but i love that you didn't let the public bash him. The wrath of the internet is scary to see.
I am obsessed with these conversations. Invested. Please keep going
It's crazy how many times she felt the pull to say no!
I didn't like how Deepti and Natalie mocked Kyle's appearance from LIB season 4. You would think they would understand how it feels to be bullied especially after so many people made fun of Deepti's and Natalie's looks.
The audio on UA-cam is so much worse than Spotify. Levels are off and it lowered when Iyanna came on. I love seeing y’all’s faces but I have to listen on Spotify bc of how inconsistent is it on here :( please fix! Great content so far
Yeah I did notice that the max quality on this video is 340p too- I wonder if UA-cam compressed it when it was uploaded.
Yes the sound is very off! I had to turn it all the way up and it still was wasn’t loud enough while I’m doing things around the house. Hope they fix it going forward 😊
I actually like Natalie and Deepti on the show and afterwards, but the podcast plays it too safe at times that it borders on boring. I felt Iyanna was more raw with her emotions and response on her podcast and LLB91. This feels more rehearsed and safe.
Agreed! They have the deets but still keep it private 🙈 I get it though
I think they did a good mix!
Do u blame them tho? If they have a different opinion from the general consensus people attack them. It's so disgusting seeing women bash them bc of their age so I honestly don't blame them for being safe. Women r horrible
Agree. I think it's hard for the LIB cast though bc apparently they have nda for 5 years. If they filmed in 2021 then it won't be up until 2025
I remembered to seeing the reunion and them sticking together, and for some reason, I just couldn’t really believe that they were OK because the character I saw moving towards them getting married he just portrayed someone that was not ready, and in my opinion she gave in to a person that should’ve never had a chance with her of course I know she chose to MoveOn and decide to commit to this man for her own reasons, but this went on long enough so thankfully, she has decided to move on with her life without this man and hopefully she starts a clean slate and learns from this to not give chances to a man that never should’ve reserved a spot in her heart
I love how every so often Iyana would whisper things lol
Watching too many j lo movies growing up 😂
@@iyannaamor1915 lol 😂 I felt like you were telling us a secret and wanted to make sure everybody didn’t hear lol
Iyanas situation was a mistake from being drunk that’s not her regular behavior …Jareds a** his entire behavior in the relationship was a PATTERN so the fact that he used that against her and was obviously stewing on that for the whole time to excuse his behavior, he’s such a narcissist and POS
Iyanna you are beautiful inside and out. You deserve so much more.
Respectfully, trauma-bonded doesn't mean what y'all think it means. PLEASE look up the definition or read the other well-worded definitions in the comments before you keep using that term INCORRECTLY. Thanks so much!
Jarette is 100% lying and wants to be married living a single life. But Iyanna is sugarcoating that story. The only grace I think she gets is because the relationship was very new at that point. If the behavior wasn't repeated, he is using it to have something to old onto to justify his actions.
Deepti voice is made for podcasting
I love Iyanna!! I’m glad she chose herself!! I really was hoping they works have their forever after but it takes two in a marriage.❤
Iyanna is such a sweetheart! Wish all the best to her :)
Sheeeeeeeesh Iyanna is speaking faaaaacttttssssssssss wowwwww. Needed to hear this girl
I don’t know why I’m crying watching this gal remind of my previous relationship with a guy who was a manipulator I am Glady you walk away ❤
Great ep, little tip, turn up the guests' audio. It's much lower than Deepti and Natalie ❤
These girls need to move on from the LIB and just live.
I liked the couch setup better. It’s more bright and cozy.
Great podcast! Can you please get a better camera for higher resolution?
I feel like I could be a part of this friendship squad. All y'all are the girls I liked in the show.
I love that you guys started this podcast! ❤
Such a great podcast!! Keep the episodes coming!!!
@@eviltruth8935 lol what?!
All 3 of my favorite gals on the podcast ♥️ honest & true.
Same!
Well done love these ladies love the new podcast and Iyanna as the first guest ❤ subscribed ✅
why does this episode not have an option to watch in hd? the highest quality available is 360p
I knew Jared’s Character from the beginning. I don’t know how iyanna chose to get married to him
Iyanna is so sweet ❤I wish her the best!