Now, THIS is how a tire comparison is done! Glad to see that you kept the setup similar and used a foam that is popular and readily available (would have preferred CI foams so you could adjust foam size but nit picking). Thanks for the video! 👍
@@westdesertwheeler I may be a bit biased because my Capra is my all time favorite vehicle I own but I’ve always loved your style of vid makes me feel like I’m there on the rocks with you . Thank you again for your hard work and content . Btw you were the reason I got my Capra haha horizon should bust out their check book cause I know I’m not the only one you heard this from 😂
Awesome video Logan! This was an impressively long and information dense video, while still being super entertaining and engaging. Very well done-keep it up my friend!
Great shootout Logan! I'm excited to see how the 5.25" cut-n-shut Krawlers stack up. I've run the Pitbulls and they work great, but I've yet to find a tire that beats your cut-n-shut Krawlers in my area (lava rock and basalt with lots of loose dirt and sand in between).
When those Pit Bulls come back in stock on AMain, I will grab a set to try. Right now I'm having great success with those new Vanquish VXT2's (1.9). It'll be time to finally install those Traxxas links too.
Great comparison. i appreciate the amount of time it took to perform, video and edit this test. My experience has been this with my Capra; First, the stock Nitto tires aren't horrible but both my Pitbull Growler A/T 1.9s and RC4WD Mickey Thompson Baja Pro Xs are better in every way. I have the growlers on my Gen8 V2 and it climbs like a goat now. The RC4WD Baja Pro Xs are very soft and the outer lugs do fold over when under heavy load. That said, they still climb a smidge better than the Pitbulls. Don't laugh but I inadvertently bought 2.2" Pro-Line Mickey Thompson Baja Pro Xs and they are just too big for the Capra so I stuck them on my highly modified Danchee Ridgerock (my first crawler) and it climbs like a Ninja now. Simply remarkable! The added ground clearance didn't seem to affect my CG at all. I have 1.9 Pro line MT Baja Pro Xs arriving tomorrow and I'm looking forward to seeing how they perform on the Capra. Thanks again for the great content!
@@westdesertwheeler Logan, just a quick follow up on the Pro line MT Baja Pro X's in 1.9" size. I have one session on them in 34 degree temps on granite and quartz rocks....and they are fantastic. They outclimbed the Pitbulls and the RC4WD Pro Xs. Not by much, but they certainly did better, and in cold temps no less. The slightly stiffer lugs bit in and drug the Capra up and over ledges that I've never been able to get over before. All the listed tires are great and I plan to wear them all down into slicks;-)
Another great video Logan. The cut-n-shut Hyrax tires you did for me are amazing in my area. Also, the new camera resolution is considerably much better.
I agree with your rankings and am very much looking forward to the cut & shut video. I have 3 pairs of 1.9x4.75 Tusks waiting to make 2.2x??? Tusks. It would be great to see your process!
Love this vid. It's crazy because the Patagonia are my favorite tire and pitbull is my second favorite but the Patagonia have more bite in my area and type of rocks and seen them suffer in other places of the worlds and rock types. Love this hobby.
nice job... looking at putting the Pro line Mickey Thompson Baja Pro X 1.9 on my Punk 3D Capera 4WS built. They are 4.88 inches tall and will be mounting them on 2.2 wheels.
Hi Logan, you make such interesting videos I have just watched for the fifth time! Learn a lot watching your driving style. Regarding tyre test, I watch many tests and most look at climbing however, I also need to do a lot of side walling and this characteristic is often overlooked.
I have a set of miles star’s on my rochobby 1/6 Jeep, ran it yesterday on wet sandy rock and was shocked how well that were working. Maybe being heavier made a difference I don’t know, but they worked and even pulled a line no one else was able to do in there 1/6
Logan, love how informative and entertaining your vids are! This is exactly what I needed. I pilfered the 1.9 wheels off my Capra, to use on my UTB18 (baby cap) leaving me with 2.2 to use for the big guy. Have been trying to find a good size 2.2 and the Pit Bulls fit the bill perfectly, and apparently rock. Have you done anything with your UTB18 yet? Would love to see some of your magic worked there! Cheers!
Hello, thank you for this video! I have berserkers 1.9 on my enduro, but I cannot get the performance you are presenting here - I guess I should train more! I noticed your rig runs much more stable, I am wondering if you have any video explaining how to setup shocks, which oil to choose, angle and so on. Thank you so much!
I love the rc4wd Wrangler MT/R in the 4.75. Now there is snow on the ground I'm looking at the 2.2s. They are a bit tall, but for winter driving I think they will work.
Have u tried or planning to try the rc4wd pro x’s? For my area they seam to out do all te others I’ve ran.. 🤷♂️ bout to try some 2.2’s for my Capra but I’m gonna try the proline’s. But my lcg loves the rc4wd pro x’s. Great video man keep up the great work/content Also I run priceys custom crawler shocks. And my Capra is stretched front and rear with priceys high clearance links.. and the traxxas rod ends. But also depends on terrain.. and I’m at a 80mm droop. Right now the Capra has the og hb rovers (white dot) and I’m running squid’s inserts.
There's a guy on here it's channels called crawler Canyon really believes in those Traxxas Canyon Trails but he does this cut thing to him and then like take some of the tread out
Question on tires..the rocks you crawl on are very high grip. Generally, would you have similar results in a "slicker" rock formations? I guess my question is if Tire A is better than B and C on this rock formation would Tire A still be the better than B and C in a different type of rock?
I lowered my SAVAGE XL by putting fuel line on the inside shaft, it does add preload so I swapped for softer springs. Just enough to level the dog bones.
Hi Logan great video as usual. Advice please. Here in uk I am running my TRX4 sport ( with mods you recommended) on sandstone. My Proline trenchers g8 are great when dry but do clog easily when stone becomes damp and loose. What would be your first choice in these conditions please? Proline are always my go too simple because of availability in UK. Aside comment, I have a note on the bottom of my rig “ keep the rubber side down”! Kind regards Roy
Hi guys, Logan hasn’t had time to reply to my request for advice so, anybody care to help please? what tyres do you run on wet sandstone when clogging is a problem for my Trenchers? In UK availability is problematic so I tend to stick with Proline.
Can. Depends on how old, and how they were stored. Old dry tires will certainly have less traction. However stored in a cool dark place like a basement they’ll stay great for years. I have a set of RC4WD gladiators (yea the Nitto trail grappler looking ones they no longer make) that are at least 9 years old and they still have great traction. Yeah probably not quite as good as they were say 5 years ago as I didn’t store them the best (hot garage for a year or two) and one shows dry rot cracks but they still work well.
No Ruptures? Would be curious to see another comparison between 1.9 G8 Krawlers, Cut’n’shut Krawlers, and some Ruptures. Maybe even throw in some Trenchers. 😂 lots of tires to compare. Thanks for the great videos.
In fairness on that one ledge climb at 16-19 minutes roughly, the pit bulls climbed using the right wall slightly, and hit the top ledge in the crack just right to go right over, the other tires when they hit the exact same line using the right wall a little they seemed to climb up just the same.. would have been interesting to see if the pit bulls could climb it in the left face only, not using the right wall/crack.
For this test I specifically wanted a drag axle so I didn’t have to be consistent with two steer axles, I am messing with the rear all the time. I get that this is kind of a joke comment but I also thought about it lol
The RC4WD Milestar tires I have in 4.19 and they're the most disappointing tires I own. I love the looks for a scale truck but the lugs just fold over and they're borderline useless.
Great video. Glad you did this on a very mildly modified car too. Makes it applicable for more people I think.
Thanks, I wanted to keep it that way to show people something similar to how they likely have their car setup
I'm running 1.9 pitbull rock beasts and they are awesome.
Now, THIS is how a tire comparison is done! Glad to see that you kept the setup similar and used a foam that is popular and readily available (would have preferred CI foams so you could adjust foam size but nit picking). Thanks for the video! 👍
OUTSTANDING, great crawl and a great bit of infomation, thanks logan,allways a fun time , be safe on the rocks !!
Watching this a second time . This style vid is my absolute favorite man great work hoping for more !
Thanks I’m glad you like this style !
@@westdesertwheeler I may be a bit biased because my Capra is my all time favorite vehicle I own but I’ve always loved your style of vid makes me feel like I’m there on the rocks with you . Thank you again for your hard work and content . Btw you were the reason I got my Capra haha horizon should bust out their check book cause I know I’m not the only one you heard this from 😂
Awesome video Logan! This was an impressively long and information dense video, while still being super entertaining and engaging. Very well done-keep it up my friend!
Thanks so much Alec!
Agreed. Nice work! 👍✌️
Great shootout Logan! I'm excited to see how the 5.25" cut-n-shut Krawlers stack up. I've run the Pitbulls and they work great, but I've yet to find a tire that beats your cut-n-shut Krawlers in my area (lava rock and basalt with lots of loose dirt and sand in between).
When those Pit Bulls come back in stock on AMain, I will grab a set to try. Right now I'm having great success with those new Vanquish VXT2's (1.9). It'll be time to finally install those Traxxas links too.
Great comparison. i appreciate the amount of time it took to perform, video and edit this test. My experience has been this with my Capra; First, the stock Nitto tires aren't horrible but both my Pitbull Growler A/T 1.9s and RC4WD Mickey Thompson Baja Pro Xs are better in every way. I have the growlers on my Gen8 V2 and it climbs like a goat now. The RC4WD Baja Pro Xs are very soft and the outer lugs do fold over when under heavy load. That said, they still climb a smidge better than the Pitbulls. Don't laugh but I inadvertently bought 2.2" Pro-Line Mickey Thompson Baja Pro Xs and they are just too big for the Capra so I stuck them on my highly modified Danchee Ridgerock (my first crawler) and it climbs like a Ninja now. Simply remarkable! The added ground clearance didn't seem to affect my CG at all. I have 1.9 Pro line MT Baja Pro Xs arriving tomorrow and I'm looking forward to seeing how they perform on the Capra. Thanks again for the great content!
Oh man the 2.2 Mickey T tires are huge from proline!
@@westdesertwheeler 6" plus!
You should try 1.9 rock beasts.
@@westdesertwheeler Logan, just a quick follow up on the Pro line MT Baja Pro X's in 1.9" size. I have one session on them in 34 degree temps on granite and quartz rocks....and they are fantastic. They outclimbed the Pitbulls and the RC4WD Pro Xs. Not by much, but they certainly did better, and in cold temps no less. The slightly stiffer lugs bit in and drug the Capra up and over ledges that I've never been able to get over before. All the listed tires are great and I plan to wear them all down into slicks;-)
I run 2.2 canyontrails cut and siped.. ..would have probably won this
Another great video Logan. The cut-n-shut Hyrax tires you did for me are amazing in my area. Also, the new camera resolution is considerably much better.
I agree with your rankings and am very much looking forward to the cut & shut video. I have 3 pairs of 1.9x4.75 Tusks waiting to make 2.2x??? Tusks. It would be great to see your process!
Love this vid. It's crazy because the Patagonia are my favorite tire and pitbull is my second favorite but the Patagonia have more bite in my area and type of rocks and seen them suffer in other places of the worlds and rock types. Love this hobby.
what type of rock/terrain?
Makes me wonder how the Traxxas would do if you cut out the middle bit of tread like many do on the 1.9s
I know this is an older video, but it would be interesting to see a similar test with the Hyrax LP tires.
Awesome place sand hollow is! My parents live in Hurricane. I need to get there more…
Great comparison. You really do these test videos justice.
I have some 2.2 pittbull pxb on the way can't wait to give them a try
Just bought my first Capra. Can you show me a pic of the shock mod you talk about In video. Thanks
nice job... looking at putting the Pro line Mickey Thompson Baja Pro X 1.9 on my Punk 3D Capera 4WS built. They are 4.88 inches tall and will be mounting them on 2.2 wheels.
Great comparison Logan. thanks for putting it together.
Nice video with good info, thanks. Love the wider rings on those wheels.
Hi Logan, you make such interesting videos I have just watched for the fifth time! Learn a lot watching your driving style.
Regarding tyre test, I watch many tests and most look at climbing however, I also need to do a lot of side walling and this characteristic is often overlooked.
I have a set of miles star’s on my rochobby 1/6 Jeep, ran it yesterday on wet sandy rock and was shocked how well that were working. Maybe being heavier made a difference I don’t know, but they worked and even pulled a line no one else was able to do in there 1/6
Deez Shock bandz are awesome, so is that REEFS 888
I like my canyon trails, i would like to get a set of pin comp tires.
GREAT INFORMATION LOGON THANKYOU 🇬🇧🇺🇲🕊️✌🏼🤟🏼
Great video Logan. I put CI wide foams in Traxxas tires. Seems to work pretty good so far.
Actually depends on which terrain your wheelin on.. some of those tires you mentioned actually don't do anything here for us in California.. 🤷🏻♂️
I do love my pitbulls but I'm running 1.9 s rockbeast and rockbeast xl and there is not a hole that I can't find a way out of
My capra has stock wheel base with 5.7 tall 2.2s and it crawls great! Not too tall
I'm on the big tire train (2.2 scorpios), but I'm also running wraith width straight axles, and 14" wheelbase
Yeah those tires are appropriate for that size then
I love my 2.2 canons on my wraith spawn. But I don't do any insane rock crawling, only sandy, rocky trails.
Logan, love how informative and entertaining your vids are! This is exactly what I needed. I pilfered the 1.9 wheels off my Capra, to use on my UTB18 (baby cap) leaving me with 2.2 to use for the big guy. Have been trying to find a good size 2.2 and the Pit Bulls fit the bill perfectly, and apparently rock. Have you done anything with your UTB18 yet? Would love to see some of your magic worked there! Cheers!
Is there any 2.2 brass inner ring?
Nice videos I'd like to see more tire test videos. Like the proline trenchers
Hello, thank you for this video!
I have berserkers 1.9 on my enduro, but I cannot get the performance you are presenting here - I guess I should train more! I noticed your rig runs much more stable, I am wondering if you have any video explaining how to setup shocks, which oil to choose, angle and so on. Thank you so much!
I love the rc4wd Wrangler MT/R in the 4.75. Now there is snow on the ground I'm looking at the 2.2s. They are a bit tall, but for winter driving I think they will work.
I’m running the 2.2 on my bomber they wear quick
Yes wear very quickly. Much like my pred. Compound Krawlers.
Have u tried or planning to try the rc4wd pro x’s? For my area they seam to out do all te others I’ve ran.. 🤷♂️ bout to try some 2.2’s for my Capra but I’m gonna try the proline’s. But my lcg loves the rc4wd pro x’s. Great video man keep up the great work/content Also I run priceys custom crawler shocks. And my Capra is stretched front and rear with priceys high clearance links.. and the traxxas rod ends. But also depends on terrain.. and I’m at a 80mm droop. Right now the Capra has the og hb rovers (white dot) and I’m running squid’s inserts.
There's a guy on here it's channels called crawler Canyon really believes in those Traxxas Canyon Trails but he does this cut thing to him and then like take some of the tread out
Question on tires..the rocks you crawl on are very high grip. Generally, would you have similar results in a "slicker" rock formations? I guess my question is if Tire A is better than B and C on this rock formation would Tire A still be the better than B and C in a different type of rock?
Good question, there will be better tires for different terrains. This is what came out on top in my area. Not real science but fun to compare
how long are the shock bands im gonna get me some
I lowered my SAVAGE XL by putting fuel line on the inside shaft, it does add preload so I swapped for softer springs. Just enough to level the dog bones.
I mean, the Pats and the Canyon Trails are more trail trail tires. Good video though. I love the 2.2 comparisons, I got a Capra coming in the mail.
why are your streams not up on youtube? , love the vids btw, planning in a future on building rock pirates truck..
My computer sucks and wouldn’t handle YT livestream well. Instagram is laid back and it’s a unique content I can bring there
This was a great review. I’m curious how the cut n shut krawlers would do against a set of cut n shut axial nitto’s and the bravens
Hi Logan great video as usual. Advice please. Here in uk I am running my TRX4 sport ( with mods you recommended) on sandstone. My Proline trenchers g8 are great when dry but do clog easily when stone becomes damp and loose. What would be your first choice in these conditions please? Proline are always my go too simple because of availability in UK.
Aside comment, I have a note on the bottom of my rig “ keep the rubber side down”!
Kind regards
Roy
Nice video, What size tire do you like on the capra1.9 or 2.2
Have you tried proline trenchers? Great vid! Really love the terrain…
I haven’t, I don’t like how they look which sounds dumb but that’s important to me
@@westdesertwheeler I get it. Looks to me are important. But, the trenchers do perform well. Thanks!
Awesome video!! ETA on another run for your Krawlers?
How long would you say your servo pack lasts? I know it varies, just curious
Awesome job man! Would love to see a 1.9 battle of the grips.... at 3 peaks tho
Anything rubber sticks in 3 peaks. Need to take it to somewhere slick to see s difference
Hi guys, Logan hasn’t had time to reply to my request for advice so, anybody care to help please? what tyres do you run on wet sandstone when clogging is a problem for my Trenchers? In UK availability is problematic so I tend to stick with Proline.
Would the age of the rubber/tire have anything to do with grip/traction?
Can. Depends on how old, and how they were stored. Old dry tires will certainly have less traction. However stored in a cool dark place like a basement they’ll stay great for years. I have a set of RC4WD gladiators (yea the Nitto trail grappler looking ones they no longer make) that are at least 9 years old and they still have great traction. Yeah probably not quite as good as they were say 5 years ago as I didn’t store them the best (hot garage for a year or two) and one shows dry rot cracks but they still work well.
No Ruptures? Would be curious to see another comparison between 1.9 G8 Krawlers, Cut’n’shut Krawlers, and some Ruptures. Maybe even throw in some Trenchers.
😂 lots of tires to compare. Thanks for the great videos.
2.2 ruptures are way too big. 1.9 aren’t a 2.2 lol so no… there are tons of tires to test. I think you’ll like the lineup for the cut n shut video
In fairness on that one ledge climb at 16-19 minutes roughly, the pit bulls climbed using the right wall slightly, and hit the top ledge in the crack just right to go right over, the other tires when they hit the exact same line using the right wall a little they seemed to climb up just the same.. would have been interesting to see if the pit bulls could climb it in the left face only, not using the right wall/crack.
Great content as always!
Great video man!
Good review. Like button energized.
Im a pitbull fan thru and thru. But in the 1' variety. Pats might be a better tire. MIGHT
Pitbulls are my favorite
Naice video cool Info! THKs for the Share!
Nice vid man
Thank you
Proline Flat Irons were the best 2.2 tire ever
You should rear steer that capra 😉
For this test I specifically wanted a drag axle so I didn’t have to be consistent with two steer axles, I am messing with the rear all the time. I get that this is kind of a joke comment but I also thought about it lol
Very scientific
Pit bull tires are best in MHO!
The RC4WD Milestar tires I have in 4.19 and they're the most disappointing tires I own. I love the looks for a scale truck but the lugs just fold over and they're borderline useless.
A Rc guy running directional tires the correct direction and not backwards? WHATTTTTT
Is running them reversed a common thing? I’ve seen that a few times and wondered why…
@@AlecLangton guys think they smarter then the manufacturer.
Traxxas tires are designed by pitbull rc ✌️
A single gate would have given this so much
Eh it’s not about gates here
@@westdesertwheeler you can't make a comparison attempting to drive the same line without a gate. Gates make the comparison happen
1.9 - 5.4 TSL boggers
Those brazirkerz are the most disappointing tire I ever bought they wouldn't even keep up with the chiwamper rock tyres that was on the rig before