This was a skill that we were taught by our neighbours and adapted with the book Clay and Lime Renders, Plasters and Paints: A How-To Guide to Using Natural Finishes by Adam Weismann & Katy Bryce. I'm a beginner and still learning, please take any advice at your own discretion.
So glad you’re educated regarding stone work and DID NOT use concrete! The laborious work of clearing, rebuilding & improving your property is visible with each video. Great job 👏🏼
Thank you so much. I did quite a lot of research before doing the wall on our house last year and everything seemed to say not to use concrete although others needed more convincing it was the right option 😂
Hi guys my husband and I found your vlog and we love watching other people work and seeing and enjoying their achievements. So you have two new subscribers.🇦🇺🙋♀️
I love that lime mortar, il looks like the doe of an italian pizza , I' m so happy to see these beautful , lucky walls restored by the hands of sensible, intelligent young people. Your skills are Hope for future generations.
Thanks Karen! Yes I think the brightness of it now will look good in winter too. We’re hoping they’re some kind of berry, maybe blackberries? Last year they were too buried in ivy we didn’t know they were there so will have to wait and see what they turn into!
I would imagine it’s a technique that needs a lot of practice for it to be worthwhile. Throwing or flicking when I tried makes a lot of excess mess and less likely to get deep into the crack.
@@LivingintheLoire takes a bit of practice. Fills the gap fully from the back. As it splats and forces all the air out. Can also hit the gap with the tipof the trowel standing side on. Witha bit of mortar on end of trowel. Itsharder to miss. As trowel impacts the wall mortar flies off into the hole. You did a nice job. Many various ways to achieve a nice look A wire brush works really well too to revesl the edges. Before water and brush finish. Limestone snd chaux basically are msde for each other and nothing looks quite as good as that pair for masonry imo.
No don’t use cement. If the stone is limestone it will slowly erode and crumble. I have examples on our property. The water has nowhere to move and you see salt deposits coming off the stone, slowly it’s crumbling. You’ll be surprised how strong the lime mortar is, if made and applied correctly. Good luck
Yes the wall getting wet allows the stones to expand and contract. Cement will hold moisture. It's solid as cement, better as it won't crack. I have a video today with examples of wall pointing restoration.
@Living in the Loire thnks so much bro,I live in rural area of Pakistan and with burn bricks and cement houses too much costly and also not echo freundly,and if we make houses with natural ston and mud that was not strong due to weather like rainy season etc Please can you hlp me for Making bricks with lime and sand or mud which should be waterproofing and eco freindly? And 2nd thing is these bricks or blocks laying lime mortar (lime mortar of each meterials). 3rd thing is interior lime plastering (lime and sand or mud etc materials ratio ) 4th thing exterior wall lime plastering (lime and sand or other materials ratio ) Please can u help me one by one in detail ,and also about lime that hydrated lime is better or lime putty is better for each mortar and plastering ,
@@malik51973 I'm not an expert, so I cant help you with everything. Here the stone is limestone, so just sand, lime and water will work. But in different climates, maybe you will need to add other aggregates or straw to make it more solid to the elements. Please check out this video ua-cam.com/video/Xu3L-wHrK5M/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KrisHarbourNaturalBuilding The channel has lots of info on building an eco home from scratch using cheap materials.
@@kookia213 Pointing will secure the wall especially if it's in a bad state. It's more of the style and aesthetics in this area France. For buildings where the stones are ugly or harder to point between you may want to render to give it a smooth finish. Depends on what you want to achieve and your budget really.
It’s my understanding that lime mortar pointing should be covered with hessian straight after application, to protect it from drying out too fast, as if it does, it becomes friable… Ever heritage site I’ve ever consulted stresses the importance of this. New lime mortar must be protected from the elements, wind, sun, rain, for a week or more… is what they all say. Why did you choose not to? You said you’d did research? You couldn’t possibly not have read that it needs to be protected while it slowly dries..? Ps: looks great, but with that sun, it surely will have dried too fast. Just saying…
Stephen, you sound fun. You can see I'm not restoring a heritage building, this isn't even our home, it's a random wall in the garden that was crumbling. I'm sure this is best practices and now I know, thank you. I can't imagine how you'd respond if someone used GREY CEMENT!
@@LivingintheLoire You could’ve just said “cheers”. “Grey cement”? Are there different coloured cements? See, now I’ve learned something today too! Cheers 🙂👌
Protection The work is at risk until the mortar has adequate time to cure. Although often overlooked, protection is critical in the meantime: Rain may wash out the mortar before it has adequate time to set. Cold temperatures may cause the mortar to freeze. Sunlight and strong winds both accelerate the drying process. This leads to colour alterations (bleaching) and cracking (shrinkage). The work should be protected with a breathable membrane such as hessian sheeting. Protection is recommended for the following periods depending on the ambient temperature: Ambient Temperature Protection (days) >= 5° C 56 >= 10° C 28 >= 15° C 14 Wet Curing (Cherishing) Wet curing or "cherishing", as it is known in the trade, is a technique that provides the ideal curing conditions for lime mortar. The hessian sheeting (or other breathable membrane) is sprayed regularly with water, this simple procedure increases humidity and controls moisture loss. Maintaining a stable, high level of humidity aids carbonation (for air lime) and hydration for (water lime) which are optimal at 60% and 90% relative humidity respectively. It also prevents shrinkage (cracking) that occurs from rapid drying. The conditions on site will determine requirements but sheeting is typically sprayed with a fine mist sprayer, anywhere from once daily to every 4 hours. This is recommended for the first 3 weeks although the first 7 days is most critical. Important: Sheeting is sprayed in temperatures above 10°C with no risk of frost. Spraying in lower temperatures increases risk of frost damage significantly. Setting and Curing Lime mortars harden progressively until fully cured. Regardless of the type of lime mortar you're working with, the process can be broken down as follows to establish some practical guidelines: Initial Set The material stiffens or "goes off", it is no longer easy to manipulate. Technical Set The material becomes hard enough to resist a fingernail when pressed. Cured The material is fully cured when it reaches its maximum strength. The time it takes to reach any one of these milestones depends on the type of lime, temperature and humidity. The table below provides a general guide, site trials will determine the time more accurately in localised conditions. Initial Set Technical Set (days) Cured (days) Hydraulic Lime Mortar Overnight 30 90 Non-Hydraulic Lime Mortar† Overnight 30 365 Hot-Mixed Lime Mortar† Overnight 30 365 † Estimates for non-hydraulic and hot-mixed lime mortar assume warm, dry weather and may be significantly longer. Colour The colour of mortar continues to lighten until it fully cures, the change can be quite dramatic and surprising. In good weather, you will usually see the greatest change after 10 days. Heritage Resources The websites of the following governing bodies offer a rich source of heritage information and advice: Historic England Historic England publishes an extensive range of expert advice and guidance to help you care for and protect historic places. Historic Environment Scotland Historic Environment Scotland is the lead public body established to investigate, care for and promote Scotland’s historic environment. Cadw Cadw champions the appreciation, protection and conservation of the historic environment of Wales. DoE Northern Ireland Historic Monuments; Historic Buildings; Historic Parks and Gardens; Maritime Heritage; Industrial Heritage; Defence Heritage and Archaeology.
I have no idea why the National Hockey League is regulating lime. Mmm... Pointing! That sounds like something at which I could excel. I'm pretty sure that you're supposed to put the lime in the coconut. 7:58 Why are we whispering?
This was a skill that we were taught by our neighbours and adapted with the book Clay and Lime Renders, Plasters and Paints: A How-To Guide to Using Natural Finishes by Adam Weismann & Katy Bryce. I'm a beginner and still learning, please take any advice at your own discretion.
So glad you’re educated regarding stone work and DID NOT use concrete! The laborious work of clearing, rebuilding & improving your property is visible with each video. Great job 👏🏼
Thank you so much. I did quite a lot of research before doing the wall on our house last year and everything seemed to say not to use concrete although others needed more convincing it was the right option 😂
Assume you mean cement, rather than "concrete"?
Hi guys my husband and I found your vlog and we love watching other people work and seeing and enjoying their achievements. So you have two new subscribers.🇦🇺🙋♀️
Hi Marcia! So glad you found us and are enjoying the videos 😊
Beautiful result. Lime mortar is such a nice looking material!
Thank you. I’m doing more again at the moment and I’m doing a better job than this vid. Practice makes perfect and all that.
That was most useful! Thank you for posting this video
I've heard using hessian to brush down to create a 'bagged' finish was used a lot in the old days as the materials were delivered in hessian bags
Great 'how-to' video. And the results look amazing! Well done !!
Thanks Mike!
Good lime.
Agreed
Well done !The wall looks great 👍
Thanks Jo!
I love that lime mortar, il looks like the doe of an italian pizza , I' m so happy to see these beautful , lucky walls restored by the hands of sensible, intelligent young people. Your skills are Hope for future generations.
It looks magnificent!
Fantastic job.love your home looking forward to seeing your journey.
Thanks Rosie!
It looks great, thank you for sharing how to do it.
Wall looks great!
Brilliant - thanks for the detail.
thanks, to many personns just know ugli dark grey ciment, that break stones etc.
Very beautiful,
well explained.
Beautiful finish!
Great explanation, thanks
Preparation is also important for best results make sure the joints are dust free and wet them down prior to pointing.
Lovely job. It looks great 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Looks like you smeared that mortar up good😊
I love the wall! The white is beautiful in the sunshine, I reckon it'll look great even in winter. Are those roses growing beside it?
Thanks Karen! Yes I think the brightness of it now will look good in winter too. We’re hoping they’re some kind of berry, maybe blackberries? Last year they were too buried in ivy we didn’t know they were there so will have to wait and see what they turn into!
Bravo! Very good job. Bonne continuation!
Thank you
Looks good.
Beautiful
How much area does a tonne of mortar cover in m2, thanks , subscribed
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Yet another talent!!! Did you both renovate property before france? You seem so ecperienced and knowledgable. Hope you're all still Covid free x
No not really just cosmetic DIY before, nothing on this level. It’s been a steep learning curve that’s for sure! So far, so Covid free 🤞
@@LivingintheLoire Thats good news!! Looking forward to the next vlog x
Are there different ki ds of lime mortar, what's the difference to "limecreat", and can I use anything that says "lime"?
So I got a question I’m trying to out has raw limestone where could I get some at I’ve been looking around and their all cut into blocks
Ohh I don’t know Alexis. What country are you in?
What about the old flick.. ? Off the trowel. I learned it in France. On the chaux e sable
I would imagine it’s a technique that needs a lot of practice for it to be worthwhile. Throwing or flicking when I tried makes a lot of excess mess and less likely to get deep into the crack.
@@LivingintheLoire takes a bit of practice. Fills the gap fully from the back. As it splats and forces all the air out.
Can also hit the gap with the tipof the trowel standing side on. Witha bit of mortar on end of trowel. Itsharder to miss. As trowel impacts the wall mortar flies off into the hole.
You did a nice job.
Many various ways to achieve a nice look
A wire brush works really well too to revesl the edges. Before water and brush finish.
Limestone snd chaux basically are msde for each other and nothing looks quite as good as that pair for masonry imo.
Is a lime mortar the thing you'd skim a stone wall indoors in a stone house?
i need to do this with my foundnations, should i use only lime or should i add cement for strenght? There wasnt use cement before, only lime
No don’t use cement. If the stone is limestone it will slowly erode and crumble. I have examples on our property. The water has nowhere to move and you see salt deposits coming off the stone, slowly it’s crumbling. You’ll be surprised how strong the lime mortar is, if made and applied correctly. Good luck
How long it will last?
Nice vedio,is this waterproofing and strong like cement plaster?hydrated lime is better or lime putty??
Yes the wall getting wet allows the stones to expand and contract. Cement will hold moisture. It's solid as cement, better as it won't crack. I have a video today with examples of wall pointing restoration.
@Living in the Loire thnks so much bro,I live in rural area of Pakistan and with burn bricks and cement houses too much costly and also not echo freundly,and if we make houses with natural ston and mud that was not strong due to weather like rainy season etc
Please can you hlp me for
Making bricks with lime and sand or mud which should be waterproofing and eco freindly?
And 2nd thing is these bricks or blocks laying lime mortar (lime mortar of each meterials).
3rd thing is interior lime plastering (lime and sand or mud etc materials ratio )
4th thing exterior wall lime plastering (lime and sand or other materials ratio )
Please can u help me one by one in detail ,and also about lime that hydrated lime is better or lime putty is better for each mortar and plastering ,
@@malik51973 I'm not an expert, so I cant help you with everything. Here the stone is limestone, so just sand, lime and water will work. But in different climates, maybe you will need to add other aggregates or straw to make it more solid to the elements. Please check out this video ua-cam.com/video/Xu3L-wHrK5M/v-deo.html&ab_channel=KrisHarbourNaturalBuilding The channel has lots of info on building an eco home from scratch using cheap materials.
@@LivingintheLoire thnks
I have seen several videos, and inside houses they usually do 3 different coats. May I ask what is the difference?, since you did only 1. Thank you.
Do they? They might be rendering the wall rather than pointing. Share a video of you can and I'll work it out.
@@LivingintheLoire I think they do render the wall with lime. May i ask when one should use pointing and when rebdering?
@@kookia213 Pointing will secure the wall especially if it's in a bad state. It's more of the style and aesthetics in this area France. For buildings where the stones are ugly or harder to point between you may want to render to give it a smooth finish. Depends on what you want to achieve and your budget really.
It’s my understanding that lime mortar pointing should be covered with hessian straight after application, to protect it from drying out too fast, as if it does, it becomes friable… Ever heritage site I’ve ever consulted stresses the importance of this. New lime mortar must be protected from the elements, wind, sun, rain, for a week or more… is what they all say. Why did you choose not to? You said you’d did research? You couldn’t possibly not have read that it needs to be protected while it slowly dries..?
Ps: looks great, but with that sun, it surely will have dried too fast. Just saying…
Stephen, you sound fun. You can see I'm not restoring a heritage building, this isn't even our home, it's a random wall in the garden that was crumbling. I'm sure this is best practices and now I know, thank you. I can't imagine how you'd respond if someone used GREY CEMENT!
@@LivingintheLoire You could’ve just said “cheers”.
“Grey cement”? Are there different coloured cements? See, now I’ve learned something today too! Cheers 🙂👌
Apologies. I just read it in a passive aggressive tone. Just a having a tough day. Take care.
@@LivingintheLoire Sorry if my comments came across that way mate. Wasn’t intentionally so.
Apologies if I added
to any crappiness of your day mate.
Protection
The work is at risk until the mortar has adequate time to cure. Although often overlooked, protection is critical in the meantime:
Rain may wash out the mortar before it has adequate time to set.
Cold temperatures may cause the mortar to freeze.
Sunlight and strong winds both accelerate the drying process. This leads to colour alterations (bleaching) and cracking (shrinkage).
The work should be protected with a breathable membrane such as hessian sheeting. Protection is recommended for the following periods depending on the ambient temperature:
Ambient Temperature
Protection (days)
>= 5° C
56
>= 10° C
28
>= 15° C
14
Wet Curing (Cherishing)
Wet curing or "cherishing", as it is known in the trade, is a technique that provides the ideal curing conditions for lime mortar. The hessian sheeting (or other breathable membrane) is sprayed regularly with water, this simple procedure increases humidity and controls moisture loss.
Maintaining a stable, high level of humidity aids carbonation (for air lime) and hydration for (water lime) which are optimal at 60% and 90% relative humidity respectively. It also prevents shrinkage (cracking) that occurs from rapid drying.
The conditions on site will determine requirements but sheeting is typically sprayed with a fine mist sprayer, anywhere from once daily to every 4 hours. This is recommended for the first 3 weeks although the first 7 days is most critical.
Important: Sheeting is sprayed in temperatures above 10°C with no risk of frost. Spraying in lower temperatures increases risk of frost damage significantly.
Setting and Curing
Lime mortars harden progressively until fully cured. Regardless of the type of lime mortar you're working with, the process can be broken down as follows to establish some practical guidelines:
Initial Set The material stiffens or "goes off", it is no longer easy to manipulate.
Technical Set The material becomes hard enough to resist a fingernail when pressed.
Cured The material is fully cured when it reaches its maximum strength.
The time it takes to reach any one of these milestones depends on the type of lime, temperature and humidity. The table below provides a general guide, site trials will determine the time more accurately in localised conditions.
Initial Set
Technical Set (days)
Cured (days)
Hydraulic Lime Mortar
Overnight
30
90
Non-Hydraulic Lime Mortar†
Overnight
30
365
Hot-Mixed Lime Mortar†
Overnight
30
365
†
Estimates for non-hydraulic and hot-mixed lime mortar assume warm, dry weather and may be significantly longer.
Colour
The colour of mortar continues to lighten until it fully cures, the change can be quite dramatic and surprising. In good weather, you will usually see the greatest change after 10 days.
Heritage Resources
The websites of the following governing bodies offer a rich source of heritage information and advice:
Historic England Historic England publishes an extensive range of expert advice and guidance to help you care for and protect historic places.
Historic Environment Scotland Historic Environment Scotland is the lead public body established to investigate, care for and promote Scotland’s historic environment.
Cadw Cadw champions the appreciation, protection and conservation of the historic environment of Wales.
DoE Northern Ireland Historic Monuments; Historic Buildings; Historic Parks and Gardens; Maritime Heritage; Industrial Heritage; Defence Heritage and Archaeology.
Thank you for the copypasta
I have no idea why the National Hockey League is regulating lime. Mmm... Pointing! That sounds like something at which I could excel. I'm pretty sure that you're supposed to put the lime in the coconut. 7:58 Why are we whispering?
Are you guys going to open up a bed and breakfast…I’d come to your farm and explore for sure.
At the moment, no, but in the future who knows? I think it's something that would be more viable once the boys are a bit older. ☺️