The vinyl comes with a separate insert with the lyrics, and the vinyl itself was released in four different colors. The focus is definitely more on vinyl when it comes to physical media now, because less people are using it at all unless they're into vinyl.
I took my daughters to see them in Albany and I was surprised by how great they were. The live show really energizes the album tracks. They are definitely finding their own sound. These kids can really play.
What I really appreciate about Pete is that he doesn't use the crutch "I've heard this sound before and if I wanted to hear a song like this I would listen to an album from the 70s." Pete always gives albums a fair shake whether it's a legacy band putting out a new release or a band like GVF trying to play 70s rock. I enjoy GVF and when I saw them live last year the crowd was filled with teenagers who had little idea who Robert Plant is. They are hard-working guys who put on a good show. Thank you Pete for reviewing it without saying if I wanted to listen to music I would listen to a album from 50 years ago.
Spot on. LZ literaly stole songs before developing their sound, so that GVF are influenced by the great LZ, I don't care. If the songs are good, they're good, and GVF writes very good songs.
@@stephanea5364 And, likewise, if I'd rather listen to Led Zeppelin instead of what, to me, sounds like a "tribute band", then you don't need to care either. If this band becomes the Led Zeppelin of the current younger generation then more power to them and they can enjoy success without my needing to get involved in that. I grew up through the 1970's and always considered that the best decade for music and that is where I focus most of my attention, even though my tastes have expanded over many years now away from just rock to blues, soul, jazz and electronica also. But there's more than enough music in and around that decade for me to spend the rest of my life exploring and enjoying without needing to look elsewhere. This idea that so many people have that just because it's new, you have to support it is silly - people are allowed to like what they like in terms of music and if there are bands out there that I don't want to listen to then I can still wish them every success because, if nothing else, they are making live music, which is very important. And, yes, they are allowed to "plagiarise" and reuse, exactly in the same way Led Zeppelin did with a lot of black blues songs that they themselves did the same thing to. Why would anyone suggest otherwise? The vast majority of the new bands that I hear (and, yes, I do watch reviews of their albums, as I have done here) are plagiarising the stuff from the 1970's anyway - and, again, that's fine and it demonstrates the "permanence" of the classic rock sound, but for an old guy like me, the originals are what I stick with.
@@Tityretupatulae I've no idea what you are talking about and therefore why that is relevant to anything I've said above. As far as I am concerned, if the music that you listen to makes you as happy as the music I listen to makes me, that's all that counts. Have a good rest of your day.
Production is a bit stripped down from the last album, but not in a bad way. I love the mystical, fantasy themes of their music. GVF is no more a Zeppelin imitator than Goodbye June is of Skynard. I like these guys and think they are great musicians and the songwriting is getting much better.
I got the album a few weeks ago, but have only listened to it once. I like it though. It's like a combination of the first and second albums. From The Fires is considered a double e.p, as the first half was the Black Smoke Rising e.p. i don't know if you noticed, but there is a website listed in the booklet to view the credits. I tried the link, but it didn't work. I do think that the album is a little short. For clarification, Josh and Jake are twins, and Sam is the younger brother. I believe that the twins were born in 1996, and Danny and Sam were born in 1999. Another Zep comparison is that Sam plays both bass and keys, just like JPJ. From what I remember, Danny was a class mate of Sam's in school, but he was friends with Jake.
Its a pretty solid album. It's one that has to be played as one, rather than broken up in singles IMO. The Battle at Gardens gate is still their best piece of work though.
Thank you, Pete for your great review. All the damn time. Greta Van Fleet - Starcatcher is excellent !! They’re a very talented and gifted band. I bought the CD and vinyl record , at my local record store. I got a cool, hot, spot on, poster, with the album !! 🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁 Life is better with music.
While I already really enjoyed this album upon first listen as well, it’s one that - even moreso than Greta’s other albums - I think you really have to sit with for a bit and soak in to fully appreciate. There are some amazing moments of growth here, like on “Indigo Streak,” "Frozen Light" (my favorite), “The Archer,” and “Meeting the Master.” I honestly think it’s a bit unfair to try and rank it next to Battle at Garden’s Gate (though I do still think that’s their best album so far) since the approach and sound is kind of apples and oranges. The more you take it on its own merits and for the raw, live vibe they were going for here, the more you can enjoy it, IMO.
Heard this a little before it was released. I thought the first 3 songs, very Zeppelin like, maybe a bit too much. After they get off the Zeppelin train for the most part, you really hear some great songs with interesting arrangements. They use the soft/loud dynamics very well to build some emotion and drama and the production is excellent. Just really good hard rock, a bit of a spacey vibe to it as well. Joshua's vocal range is still amazing. I'll give it 4/5 stars.
Hey Pete. Will definitely check out. Review day always flying every week. And today here in the building things and situations flying so sorry didn't make it back in like hoped in pick of the day. Take care and thanks ,
Sounds good, Pete. I'll probably buy that one and check it out. I like Greta Van Fleet. I'm like you...I like the 70s rock/Led Zeppelin sound too. I bought The Battle at Garden's Gate per your review of it when that was released and I'm glad I did. That's a great album.
Thank you for the review Pete I really enjoy this album I’m not sure if it is my favorite from this band. I agree that Indigo Streak is my favorite song on that album. I really enjoy Runaway blues it’s too bad it’s only just over a minute. If that song was about 3 or 3 and a half minutes it would be amazing song. I read an interview that Josh is not a fan of that tune which is too bad because I love it. 4/5 for me
Great album and great review Pete. Yeah as far as the packaging goes I bought the vinyl also and it wasn't a gatefold. Was hoping for a little more. Thanks
Your review is quite kind Pete and thank you for posting but when you're searching for words by saying at the 2:17 mark "anything else I can tell you about this album??" That says it all. I've never taken this band seriously when you have a band like Black Country Communion doing the Zeppelin thing so much better.
@@garyh.238Same as you n the herd of cheesy sheep always mention the same bands. There's a universe of great bands that you n your clones never mention.
@@Blueswan84 Sorry but I have to disagree. The GVF singer overdoes the Plant nasal whine far too much, and the GVF guitarist's Page-isms are far too obvious. Rival Sons though influenced by Zeppelin, don't mimic Zeppelin the say GVF does; and they draw from a far wider range of influences. RS' singer Buchannan is one of the best singers in rock today, and doesn't sound anything like Plant. But the rock music press are enamoured of GVF for some odd reason, and the hype about them is way over the top.
I liked the first couple albums, but the last one was a tad disappointing. But I'm still willing to check this out. And yes, we need big rock bands and we need rock radio stations to play material released after the year 1995.
Listened to this a little bit during the past week, Pete, when you mentioned this was in the review stack possible for this week. In my late 60s, there are several instances where some music or songs may sound similar to what has been heard before, but that does not preclude me from enjoying the newer music. Great Van Fleet fell into that category when you and SoT first brought them to the viewer's attention and bought the last album after listening. This album is likely to fall into that camp as well. But agree, sad packaging of the product. Always appreciate the positive way you approach reviews. So again, thanks for the new product show and including this album and band in the episodes this week.
You can’t please rock fans. As much as our kind bitch & moan about the we lack of good new rock music, all I’ve heard is complaints about GVF. They rock. They’re doing it right.
Great band. I recently saw them live and that is where they excel. Very talented with tons of presence on stage. They are extremely popular, now selling out big arenas and touring with Metallica along with big festivals around the world. I guess you either love them or hate them, that is true for most artists.
They could always go the Metallica route and do the origami packaging. Lol! That still cracks me up. These guys sure take a lot of crap with the Zepp comparison but how many bands sound like Sabbath and Slay3r?
I really have been trying hard to like this band . I do like some of there more up tempo rockers. But Alot if the music kind if meanders a bit too much . And yes the Robert Plant copy cat stylings is sometimes annoying to me for what ever reason. Maybe if the straight out rocked more in an uptempo way more often I would dig them more
PETE/ I 💯% respect your opinion/ I will definitely listen with an open mind. I definitely DONT dislike this band, but not madly in love like many, but will give this multiple spins. Thx for all your hard work / especially Wednesdays 👍💯
Have to agree with everything you said about this band. Especially the part, you mentioned of the people that are against them, but there are no real rock bands out there anymore original but not original.
Battle at Gardens Gate was a solid album for me, a step up from their full length debut, Anthem for a Peaceful Army which i was lukewarm on. Loved the first two EPs. Such a shame we can't get proper physical releases anymore, i don't hate digipaks if the bottom, where you lay the cd, is plastic as it makes it feel a little more substantial if we can't get jewel cases but the completely cardboard type is crap. I will give this one a multiple listen on my favourite streaming platform to see if i wanna pick it up physically. I wouldn't equate the same zeppelinesque sound of GFV to Rival Sons as Rival Sons are an amalgamation of many older groups but Jay Buchanan is a great vocalist, more bluesy, something more akin to Paul Rodgers. Thanks for your honest thoughts Pete & not glossing over the obvious fact that GVF sound like one of the best bands of all time but with their own sense of identity. I will check it out & imagine based on my love of their previous record that i will have a lot to relish here.
@ladyiam7084 Rival Sons in their early days, maybe so, but with each album, they incorporated many different sounds into each release. The vocals & guitar work from Rival sons doesn't mimic that of Zeppelin to the same magnitude that GVF does. The guys may be doing so unintentionally, or they are unable to escape the influence, perhaps they are leaning into it to become bigger, who knows. Zeppelin has been my favourite band since i was 12. Almost 30 years later, it has not changed. I like both Rival Sons & GVF, many bands incorporate sounds from bands that inspired them as it's music they love. GVF is a little more on the nose with it, i loved Battle at Gardens Gate & I am currently enjoying the new one, will take a few more listens to determine which i like more from GVF. Loved Darkfighter from Rival Sons earlier this year & i am looking forward to the follow-up at the end of the year.
Greta is the new Zeppelin and Dirty Honey is the New Aerosmith. Embrace it. Both have great music. Just remember Zep was influenced by blues. People back then might have said hey they stole thier sound from the blues guys. Everyone influences everyone.
The story of how this album was made is pretty interesting. They were rehearsing the songs in the studio and the producer recorded it and said, " thats it guys, the album is recorded and done." The result is a more stripped down sound than Garden's Gate. The songs are very well written and shine through with the simpler production. Great album.
True. The only thing that really matters is: does it sound good and are the songs good and can they play and sing? Yes to all of them. Love Pete's take on this. Unprejudiced.
I'm very pleased at their success, they are playing at Wembley Arena here in the UK in November. What I've heard of the album so far I've liked but they certainly not trying to encourage people to buy the cd with that uninspiring packaging so I might buy the MP3!
Really enjoying this one so far. Agree with many of your comments about people carping about a lack of originality in modern music. There's stacks of it. It's just not what many of us call rock music.
This band has grown on me. I was sort of against them when their first EP came out, but I've changed my mind. Their sound is derivative, of course, but the songwriting is pretty solid nonetheless. The Battle at Garden's Gate is a pretty impressive album, in my opinion. I still have to buy the new one. Edit: I got the new album, and I think it's their best. Rawer in sound and textures when compared to the previous one, but also retaining the more complex and almost proggy approach to the composition. Love it!
As bad as this packaging is, the new Foo Fighters album But Here We Are is even worse, both the album covers (front and back) and the liner notes (which consists of only lyrics, no credits) are all white with gray letters that are illegible unless you hold it directly under light. Fine album musically but it has to be the single worst packaging I’ve ever seen
I think they are great they are making songs the old way, this new stuff where all you have to do is scream and sound like the devil is a cheap way out for for calling yourself a band.😊
I think the album is pretty good but could have been produced better. They got a Grammy nom out of it so that is impressive. Im just a little concerned about the future of the band and Im really looking out for something big in the future like a better version of Gardens Gate.
Great band! Yeah the early stuff was very zeppy, but the last few albums I think they are coming into their own... I really enjoy a lot of their music . Im 59, I grew up on Zep and I can forgive and enjoy what they are doing.
Thank you! I hate people that won’t give them a chance after hearing Highway Tune. Their first EPs and album was very Zep but theyve moved farther away into their own sound after AOTPA.
It's a good album, not their best. It's all very moderate and tempered in its general tempo track to track without any real unleashed more high-paced rockers. Still a big fan though and I appreciate how they are carrying the torch for the true "classic" rock sound of the 70s.
Danny has said they are already working on a double album. Cant wait and BTW I love Starcatcher. I had it on repeat one weekend and just started appreciating it more. Stand outs to me are “Waited All Your Life” and “The Archer”
He said they have material ready that would fill a double album hypothetically, not that they will put out a double album. Considering how lava records is milking them, they will never put a double album but just one record at the time and then the usual exhausting tour after each of them
I never understood some of the criticism of GVF...the reminder of Led Zeppelin is there, clearly, but I thought music is based largely on prior influences anyway. Something, oftentimes, is derived from something else and the time has more than arrived for people to compartmentalize the greats such as Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Little Richard, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath, Van Halen....whomever.... Those guys and others had the privilege of being a part of the birthing process of the Rock genre....all of them arrived within the first 14 years roughly. That allowed tons of room for originality and a legendary British Invasion to take the world over. Another 52-53 years has passed since then and the genre is old enough to collect Social Security checks, and qualify for a senior discount at Denny's, but i digress. Along with that stark reality should be the realization that there is only so much originality, uniqueness or whatever one can reasonably expect from a genre that's roughly 67 years old. The last point is something Pete pointed out and he's right. It's a very fair and realistic observation. Or as I often say, the reason why we had Mozart in the first place, is because there could only be one. Holding bands accountable to the past on an impossible grading curve (or expectation) is not going to do the genre or it's musicians any constructive good. I think one needs to consider that what Rock bands do produce today, has to be judged on the merits of what that band CAN reasonably do. If it's good or great then it's good or great for what it's meant to be. If it's awful then it's awful, but if it is awful, try not to use the past to place said band into the awful. That means we are being challenged to govern our subjectivity with a little critical thinking. I know...I know, much easier to say and for many, including yours truly, a much harder enterprise to take on. It is very hard not to entrench as one ages...the older stuff that's time-tested is emotional comfort food, you get entrenched because they were great, original, fresh, new, and innovative. They also shaped one's formative years in many cases. Bias is an almost impossible drug habit to kick when it comes to music listening. There's no rehab for that addiction. How many times do we all here or see the comment regarding how the old stuff is better then the today stuff? It's THE cliché of all clichés... But is it true? Probably. But I think that inhibits growth to those who embrace this genre and all other forms of recorded music (audiophiles included) from discovery. I suspect there's a lot of un-discovery going on out there, but that's just me.
If that sums up how you approach music then that's fine - but to me it looks very "mechanical" with too much over-thinking and complexity in there. For me, music is just down to emotions, I like what I like and don't like what I don't. I would never categorise any musicians making live music today to be "awful" and fully respect their capabilities to get up in front of a live audience and play. If bands like Greta Van Fleet become the younger generation's version of Led Zeppelin then more power to them, I wish them every success - but, to me, they just sound like a tribute band and I can just let them get on with what they are doing. They probably don't want a "grumpy old man" like me in their audience anyway. The fact that many young bands are plagiarising the rock music of the 1970's just demonstrates the permanence of the classic rock sound - and, yes, the bands from the 1970's, in turn, plagiarised rock 'n' roll and black blues too. But ultimately music, to me, comes down to how it goes into the ear - and if when it goes into the ear it makes me think "Hmmm, sounds like Zep, I feel like sticking on "Houses Of The Holy" now" then so be it and it's not really for someone like you to try to educate me otherwise. You might as well tell someone who spends months renovating and customising a classic car from the 1950's to stop what they are doing and just go buy a modern saloon car! That's how ridiculous you sound above.
I wish this was better than it is. I liked Meeting the Master a lot, and also liked Sacred the Thread, but the album wasn't the leap forward i wanted. Still think the band gets a lot of unfair stick and will keep an eye on them
Yeah, I thought they were evolving amazingly but this record isn'.t much an evolution from last record, which is better in my opinion. Still love them, but expected a bit better.
When it comes to Led Zep, I’m pretty much in the Simon Bray camp……and yet I do like GvF! Having said that, I don’t think this album is as good as it’s predecessor.
I am with you on younger bands who have embraced the classic rock traditions The jury is still out with me on this one but I loved The Battle At Garden's Gate and I think this new release will on on both of its feet. Too bad labels are skipping back on the packaging since everything has pretty much has gone to download. When you brought that up in the beginning of the review I thought the music itself was going to bet a bad review but I am glade you like it.
I honestly can’t understand how people say the singer’s voice is great. I think it’s horrible. He doesn’t sing, he screeches! Can’t understand what comes out of his mouth. I think the rest of the band has talent. They just need to get a decent singer.
At this point GVF has surpased Zeppelin.. I saw them a few months ago and the show was amazing. Trolls: Don't bother coming after me for my opinion. These guys are the real deal and the oldest members are 27 so much more to come!!❤❤❤
I was pretty into this band when they first came to the scene. Kinda fell out. Started focusing a little too much on flower power ballad stuff. This album was alright, dont see me reaching for it much though. Obviously the elephant in the room will always be the plagarism thing. Theres a track on here that sounds just like when the levee breaks lol.
If only they would get rid of that screaming banshee wail of a vocalist. The music gets no chance to shine with his constant noises which seems to be getting more pronounced with every release. If they would enlist a more soulful richer toned vocalist this band would improve immeasurably. As for the insert pics...maybe not a good idea guys. Also the music, as per the last album, is overwrought and maybe a little more light and shade wouldn't go amiss. I still think their 1st official album is their best and i was hoping for some development but the last 2 ,for me, have seen stagnation. Sorry Pete but this vocalist does not sound like Plant to my ears. His tone is entirely different but his delivery is maybe a little similar. He sounds more like Geddy Lee on helium. In the final analysis it all sounds a bit samey which is the polar opposite of Zeppelin.
@@stephanea5364 at least they didn't squawk the whole time and the music could 'breathe'. For me this band could be so good...bloody frustrating. No doubt i'm in a tiny minority. but the other 3 guys are damn good...i just want to hear more of them.
I'll be the one to say Can't stand the voice. Sorry Folks. Music sounds good but as soon as he starts singing its like nails on the chalk board. I'm always open to listen to new music regardless of genre but this band just isn't my cup of tea.
I just can't stand this band. I have no problem with them sounding like a lot of other stuff, I just don't think their songs are very good. Hats off to Joshua for his recent coming out, though. That's got to be even harder for a person who is followed so closely by so many people. Thanks for the review either way, Pete!
I actually like this one the most out of all their stuff, this one sounds that bit more experimental and original. I'm hearing some YES influences now too. This is the only album of theirs that has kept my attention and made me look more into them.. Thier double EP has those really zeppelin sounding songs and I'd just prefer to listen to the real led zeppelin over that stuff but I'm glad they're sounding more themselves now.
I like Greta Van Fleet and while I appreciate the last two albums, I was somewhat disappointed in them. I love what they do; I wish there were more young bands doing this kind of music. But I don't think the last two albums are as good as the earlier stuff. I _loved_ Anthem Of The Peaceful Army. The last two albums have a few really good songs and I don't think there are any _bad_ songs on them, but I was expecting a lot more from them after AOTPA. I'm hoping the next album is their opus, but we'll see. I saw them live during the AOTPA tour - a few feet from the stage - and they were awesome. Really good live band. I love the retro sound but not the retro fashion; it has an off-putting cosplay vibe.
I just watched another channel’s review of Greta Van Fleet and the guy hated this album. I have liked this band for a couple years so I was kind of disappointed with his reaction. But he gave Travis Scott’s new album a rave review. I used to really like rap but this trap stuff is lousy to me. I try to like young people’s music but some of it is a sonic equivalent of someone ringing an annoying doorbell over and over again. No musicianship at all.
Millennials said a few years ago that Greta Van Fleet is better than Zeppelin. You gotta be kidding LOL. GVF is not even in the same galaxy. They're not some "new" band either and was formed back in 2012. It only took them over 5 years to put out their first EP which got marginal reviews. As opposed to Zeppelin who released no less than SIX albums in 6 years from 1969-75. What I heard from GVF was decent but was less than mind-blowing. Good luck to them but it just ain't my thing. I'll stick with Zeppelin, Stones, Sabbath, Purple, Rush, etc. That's plenty for me..
Right but with the exception of a couple of those bands, they ain’t gonna be putting out anything new. GVF is a band for people who want new music in that kind of classic rock style. Its not a competition to see whether they can surpass those classic guys, It’s about simply a new band doing some cool stuff in that style. It doesn’t mean that you have to stop listen to your 1970s favourites or that you have to buy a GVF record.
@@jimmycampbell78 --Well hopefully at least GVF knows they will never be Zeppelin and are now trying too hard to look "cool" wearing mascara and glitter LOL. But their rabid fans sure don't and most likely never will..
Agreed. One would be better served by listening to the Rival Sons.....far more original than GVF, better musicianship and not a fraction of the commercial HYPE.
@@garyh.238 Rival Sons are more derivative than GVF. They have a more limited and “safe” music palette, they are classic rock 101. Greta Van Fleet have so many more nuances and influences. Even RS drummer said GVF are some of the best musicians alive. I mean, it doesnt take genius to realize it tho..
@@Tityretupatulae At least Rival Sons use their influences wisely and inject far more originality and muscianship into their compositions. GVF are simply knock off Zep clones who somehow benefit from massive overkill media & industry hype. That's what makes them a "safe" choice.... Mystifyingly, they are already accepted, lavishly praised and promoted by the music industry / media establishment, and for that reason, will never truly be taken seriously in the long run. Just like American Idol contestants, no matter how talented. GVF is simply a symptom of the commercial bloat and direction which the music industry has morphed into in the past 3 decades. We were told in the 90s that Grunge was going to reset the rock landscape....well that lasted about what?.... 3 years, maybe 4 until it collapsed under the weight of over-expectation. Then Nu Metal was the next new thing, but that never gained any real traction. Now in the age of streaming, autotune, AI, etc; true musical originality and performance are becoming a dying art. So now to assuage the doubters, the industry has created this little niche thing called GVF which it wants us to believe, will lead us to the promised land of real musical authenticity. Nothing could be further from the truth. That saviours of rock and roll schtick might work if they really did something novel instead of purloining riffs, chord progressions, etc etc already realized by multiple other bands in decades past. Now If you want to hear real originality and rawness, try Clutch. Genius comes from unlikely sources.
Have to admit, don’t understand the hype. Tried to give their music a chance and it just didn’t happen. The Led Zep comparisons are weak and they just don’t elicit any emotion from me with their sound. To each his own.
😖No no no no no no no no no no no no and…no. Did I say no? With that being said I can kinda stomach Highway Tune. If he wails one more “Ooooh Mama!” I’m taking icepicks to my ears. 🤕
I mentioned in chat, GVF was the first big outdoor show I saw in late summer '21, mainly by default. I was starved for rock! They were entertaining but still lacked a lot of elements for greatness. Even the guitar solos were a bit s**t. I really wished I could have seen Vintage Caravan instead. Back in April 21, 2021, they released The Battle at Garden's Gate on the same day Vintage Caravan released Monuments, as well as a Motorpsycho album. I subtitled the Kings of Rock battle review: "Gnomes and Scandinavians from the land of ice and fire do battle at the Garden Monument of Oblivion. Who will reign as kings of monumental rock mountain, who will tend the garden, and will both be obliterated by their elders?" Motorpsycho crushed them all, but as far as the GVF sound, Iceland's The Vintage Caravan is superior in every way. I think the new one is a dip in quality after the patchy previous album. Yet it all sounds like music I would/should like. It's annoying.
Vintage Caravan are definitely preferred over GVF for this guy. I own a couple of GVF releases and 3 VC albums. To me they are light years apart. Vintage Caravan are so talented and underrated it's criminal. I'm not sure if Pete has ever reviewed VC. I have never heard anyone speak about them on any of his platforms.
First things first, for physical media buyers, the packaging and presentation is an insult. It's cheap and low effort. The album itself unfortunately doesn't get a much better assessment from me. There may be some good songs and ideas buried in there somewhere but the production is such a mess that it's an album I feel like I have to strain to hear anything coherent. I have always loved Josh's vocals but I can't understand a word he's saying. After a few listens it's gotten slightly better than my initial disappointment but this will not rank high in my albums of 2023 or in Greta Van Fleet's catalog in general.
I really never took em seriously. Maybe I should go back and listen to them. I initially liked them but for some reason I could not listen to them without cringing and thinking about Zeppelin
The production on this is an abortion. too bad, because the songs are really good. Dave Cobb shouldn't produce a record with so many layers of instrumentation, he just can't, it seems. Stay with Stapleton
They should have used the guy from the previous record, who did an amazing job,. That record breathes and layers instrumentation are well separated@@The_Uninivited_Guest
I don,t care about opinion of people who don,t have ears or listen on cheap system. Last record prod is amazing, and it's objectively true@@Tityretupatulae
@@stephanea5364I’m not the one saying it. I just report what the music nerds online say. I personally think that people are intimated by their talent and would hang on any excuse to trash them. This sounds good on my 100 pounds earbuds
Greta Varrrrrrrrrrn Fleet?? Kind of like that old band, Varrrrrrrrrrn Halen??? Jeez....:). Try and get their name correct on the next album perhaps? Terrific album. As was their last.
Great band,but get a decent producer. Can't hear Any of the vocals. SO disappointing. And get someone to to design a decent record cover. Thier last two were crap. And give us lyrics so we can understand what is being sung.
Man...these guys burst onto the scene 2019/20 and I loved it...then they morphed into over produced, over managed, corporate hard rock to feed the money maker. Still like the occasional songs but not the energy, excitement of several years ago.
Seems like everyone walks on eggshells regarding GVF, trying to be over the top kind and forgiving of this band. Sorry, they are derivative-not necessarily a bad thing- and downright awful- definitely a bad thing.
Don't see the connection. Nice that you support Ozzy, but so much don't. It seems like Ozzy is catering to the masses. He has collaborated with people like Post Malone and the guy that produced Miley Cyrus. I have talked to many people that haven't liked what Ozzy has done in thirty years. Also, GVF is far from "fake Zep". On their previous album, The Battle At Garden's Gate, they went for a very progressive and cinematic sound. I like Zep as the much as the next guy, but they stole from plenty of people. Plus, I lost respect for Robert for being catty to Jimmy. In 2012, Jimmy asked Robert if he would be interested in playing more Zep shows next year. Robert said that he was busy in 2013, but would be free in 2014. So, Jimmy asked him in 2014. Robert responded by telling Jimmy to take a nap. Also, Robert has been very complimentary to this band in the press. So, blame him.
The vinyl comes with a separate insert with the lyrics, and the vinyl itself was released in four different colors. The focus is definitely more on vinyl when it comes to physical media now, because less people are using it at all unless they're into vinyl.
All newer cars don’t have CD players
I took my daughters to see them in Albany and I was surprised by how great they were. The live show really energizes the album tracks. They are definitely finding their own sound. These kids can really play.
They're a really good live band.
Joshua sounds like Rick Emmit from Triumph. GVF has classic rock influences and amaze me everytime I listen to them.
That should be the next big thing, ripping off Triumph! That would be awesome!
@@resistor27 GVF is not ripping off anyone. I love their music. It’s innovative compared to todays lame shit music. They are a fantastic talent.
Crown Lands Fearless album is in my high listening rotation . For months now
What I really appreciate about Pete is that he doesn't use the crutch "I've heard this sound before and if I wanted to hear a song like this I would listen to an album from the 70s." Pete always gives albums a fair shake whether it's a legacy band putting out a new release or a band like GVF trying to play 70s rock. I enjoy GVF and when I saw them live last year the crowd was filled with teenagers who had little idea who Robert Plant is. They are hard-working guys who put on a good show. Thank you Pete for reviewing it without saying if I wanted to listen to music I would listen to a album from 50 years ago.
Spot on. LZ literaly stole songs before developing their sound, so that GVF are influenced by the great LZ, I don't care. If the songs are good, they're good, and GVF writes very good songs.
@@stephanea5364 And, likewise, if I'd rather listen to Led Zeppelin instead of what, to me, sounds like a "tribute band", then you don't need to care either.
If this band becomes the Led Zeppelin of the current younger generation then more power to them and they can enjoy success without my needing to get involved in that.
I grew up through the 1970's and always considered that the best decade for music and that is where I focus most of my attention, even though my tastes have expanded over many years now away from just rock to blues, soul, jazz and electronica also. But there's more than enough music in and around that decade for me to spend the rest of my life exploring and enjoying without needing to look elsewhere.
This idea that so many people have that just because it's new, you have to support it is silly - people are allowed to like what they like in terms of music and if there are bands out there that I don't want to listen to then I can still wish them every success because, if nothing else, they are making live music, which is very important.
And, yes, they are allowed to "plagiarise" and reuse, exactly in the same way Led Zeppelin did with a lot of black blues songs that they themselves did the same thing to.
Why would anyone suggest otherwise?
The vast majority of the new bands that I hear (and, yes, I do watch reviews of their albums, as I have done here) are plagiarising the stuff from the 1970's anyway - and, again, that's fine and it demonstrates the "permanence" of the classic rock sound, but for an old guy like me, the originals are what I stick with.
@@terrydaktyllus1320cause we young people with musical teaser can’t be bothered with indie and alternative rock.
@@Tityretupatulae I've no idea what you are talking about and therefore why that is relevant to anything I've said above.
As far as I am concerned, if the music that you listen to makes you as happy as the music I listen to makes me, that's all that counts.
Have a good rest of your day.
Who knows maybe GVF leads the kids to find Plant and Zeppelin. That is a positive effect these guys could have on this generation.
Production is a bit stripped down from the last album, but not in a bad way. I love the mystical, fantasy themes of their music. GVF is no more a Zeppelin imitator than Goodbye June is of Skynard. I like these guys and think they are great musicians and the songwriting is getting much better.
I got the album a few weeks ago, but have only listened to it once. I like it though. It's like a combination of the first and second albums. From The Fires is considered a double e.p, as the first half was the Black Smoke Rising e.p. i don't know if you noticed, but there is a website listed in the booklet to view the credits. I tried the link, but it didn't work. I do think that the album is a little short. For clarification, Josh and Jake are twins, and Sam is the younger brother. I believe that the twins were born in 1996, and Danny and Sam were born in 1999. Another Zep comparison is that Sam plays both bass and keys, just like JPJ. From what I remember, Danny was a class mate of Sam's in school, but he was friends with Jake.
Danny was born December 1998.
Yes the album is very short. Runway blues should not be there
@@Tityretupatulae I think that it should have been longer. Apparently, a longer version exists.
Its a pretty solid album. It's one that has to be played as one, rather than broken up in singles IMO. The Battle at Gardens gate is still their best piece of work though.
Thank you, Pete for your great review.
All the damn time.
Greta Van Fleet - Starcatcher is excellent !!
They’re a very talented and gifted band.
I bought the CD and vinyl record , at my local record store.
I got a cool, hot, spot on, poster, with the album !!
🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁
Life is better with music.
Thank You Pete for your Review. I Love This Album and The Band Greta Van Fleet
I like the cover, it's nice and clean.
Looking forward to hearing this one Pete
While I already really enjoyed this album upon first listen as well, it’s one that - even moreso than Greta’s other albums - I think you really have to sit with for a bit and soak in to fully appreciate. There are some amazing moments of growth here, like on “Indigo Streak,” "Frozen Light" (my favorite), “The Archer,” and “Meeting the Master.” I honestly think it’s a bit unfair to try and rank it next to Battle at Garden’s Gate (though I do still think that’s their best album so far) since the approach and sound is kind of apples and oranges. The more you take it on its own merits and for the raw, live vibe they were going for here, the more you can enjoy it, IMO.
i enjoyed this album, not sure if i liked the 2nd one or this better!!🐯
Thanks for another great review, I have all the GVF albums and although this one is not my fav it is growing on me every time I listen to it.
I'm enjoying this album. It's great that a young band is putting out excellent material and are also fantastic live.
Great review!! I love this band!!
Listened to this a few times. I think its my favorite album from them so far!
Heard this a little before it was released. I thought the first 3 songs, very Zeppelin like, maybe a bit too much. After they get off the Zeppelin train for the most part, you really hear some great songs with interesting arrangements. They use the soft/loud dynamics very well to build some emotion and drama and the production is excellent. Just really good hard rock, a bit of a spacey vibe to it as well. Joshua's vocal range is still amazing. I'll give it 4/5 stars.
I really fail to comprehend how Fate of the faithful is Led Zep. I really do.
@@TityretupatulaeSome of the guitar reminds me of All My Love on parts of it.
Hey Pete. Will definitely check out. Review day always flying every week. And today here in the building things and situations flying so sorry didn't make it back in like hoped in pick of the day. Take care and thanks ,
Sounds good, Pete. I'll probably buy that one and check it out. I like Greta Van Fleet. I'm like you...I like the 70s rock/Led Zeppelin sound too. I bought The Battle at Garden's Gate per your review of it when that was released and I'm glad I did. That's a great album.
Thank you for the review Pete I really enjoy this album I’m not sure if it is my favorite from this band. I agree that Indigo Streak is my favorite song on that album. I really enjoy Runaway blues it’s too bad it’s only just over a minute. If that song was about 3 or 3 and a half minutes it would be amazing song. I read an interview that Josh is not a fan of that tune which is too bad because I love it. 4/5 for me
Great album and great review Pete. Yeah as far as the packaging goes I bought the vinyl also and it wasn't a gatefold. Was hoping for a little more. Thanks
His voice reminds me more of Jon Anderson on the last two albums. The Idigo Streak sounds especially like Anderson fronting Zeppelin!
Your review is quite kind Pete and thank you for posting but when you're searching for words by saying at the 2:17 mark "anything else I can tell you about this album??" That says it all. I've never taken this band seriously when you have a band like Black Country Communion doing the Zeppelin thing so much better.
Agreed. BCC and Rival Sons both, but neither of those get the corporate/ critical love nor the HYPE that GVF gets.
@@garyh.238Same as you n the herd of cheesy sheep always mention the same bands. There's a universe of great bands that you n your clones never mention.
@@garyh.238rival sons are nowhere near Greta Van Fleet level and yes, Rival Sons are more derivative. This is a great album
@@Blueswan84 Sorry but I have to disagree. The GVF singer overdoes the Plant nasal whine far too much, and the GVF guitarist's Page-isms are far too obvious. Rival Sons though influenced by Zeppelin, don't mimic Zeppelin the say GVF does; and they draw from a far wider range of influences. RS' singer Buchannan is one of the best singers in rock today, and doesn't sound anything like Plant. But the rock music press are enamoured of GVF for some odd reason, and the hype about them is way over the top.
I liked the first couple albums, but the last one was a tad disappointing. But I'm still willing to check this out. And yes, we need big rock bands and we need rock radio stations to play material released after the year 1995.
This one is much better imo
Listened to this a little bit during the past week, Pete, when you mentioned this was in the review stack possible for this week. In my late 60s, there are several instances where some music or songs may sound similar to what has been heard before, but that does not preclude me from enjoying the newer music. Great Van Fleet fell into that category when you and SoT first brought them to the viewer's attention and bought the last album after listening. This album is likely to fall into that camp as well. But agree, sad packaging of the product. Always appreciate the positive way you approach reviews. So again, thanks for the new product show and including this album and band in the episodes this week.
I really liked this album. Thank you for your review, Pete.
Do you review the rory gallagher live in london ?
You can’t please rock fans. As much as our kind bitch & moan about the we lack of good new rock music, all I’ve heard is complaints about GVF. They rock. They’re doing it right.
Great band. I recently saw them live and that is where they excel. Very talented with tons of presence on stage. They are extremely popular, now selling out big arenas and touring with Metallica along with big festivals around the world. I guess you either love them or hate them, that is true for most artists.
Good to See how these kids have just grown from the get go
They could always go the Metallica route and do the origami packaging. Lol! That still cracks me up.
These guys sure take a lot of crap with the Zepp comparison but how many bands sound like Sabbath and Slay3r?
Indeed.
Nothing wrong with sounding like Zeppelin.
I think they sound a little like early Yes and early Rush too (which is a good thing to sound like IMHO).
I really have been trying hard to like this band .
I do like some of there more up tempo rockers.
But Alot if the music kind if meanders a bit too much . And yes the Robert Plant copy cat stylings is sometimes annoying to me for what ever reason. Maybe if the straight out rocked more in an uptempo way more often I would dig them more
Been dying to see this.
PETE/ I 💯% respect your opinion/ I will definitely listen with an open mind. I definitely DONT dislike this band, but not madly in love like many, but will give this multiple spins. Thx for all your hard work / especially Wednesdays 👍💯
Have to agree with everything you said about this band. Especially the part, you mentioned of the people that are against them, but there are no real rock bands out there anymore original but not original.
I picked this up maybe three weeks ago and I do like it. It is a solid album for sure.
I would definitely give it a listen to this album, thanks Pete
Really appreciate the sentiment about this band, I've never thought they deserved the crap they get.
Man, .I dig this album. Frozen light ✨️ is a killer tune
Battle at Gardens Gate was a solid album for me, a step up from their full length debut, Anthem for a Peaceful Army which i was lukewarm on. Loved the first two EPs. Such a shame we can't get proper physical releases anymore, i don't hate digipaks if the bottom, where you lay the cd, is plastic as it makes it feel a little more substantial if we can't get jewel cases but the completely cardboard type is crap. I will give this one a multiple listen on my favourite streaming platform to see if i wanna pick it up physically. I wouldn't equate the same zeppelinesque sound of GFV to Rival Sons as Rival Sons are an amalgamation of many older groups but Jay Buchanan is a great vocalist, more bluesy, something more akin to Paul Rodgers. Thanks for your honest thoughts Pete & not glossing over the obvious fact that GVF sound like one of the best bands of all time but with their own sense of identity. I will check it out & imagine based on my love of their previous record that i will have a lot to relish here.
His point is those bands are throwbacks.
Rival sons are immensely more zeppelinesque
@@Tityretupatulae Not to me
@ladyiam7084 Rival Sons in their early days, maybe so, but with each album, they incorporated many different sounds into each release. The vocals & guitar work from Rival sons doesn't mimic that of Zeppelin to the same magnitude that GVF does. The guys may be doing so unintentionally, or they are unable to escape the influence, perhaps they are leaning into it to become bigger, who knows. Zeppelin has been my favourite band since i was 12. Almost 30 years later, it has not changed. I like both Rival Sons & GVF, many bands incorporate sounds from bands that inspired them as it's music they love. GVF is a little more on the nose with it, i loved Battle at Gardens Gate & I am currently enjoying the new one, will take a few more listens to determine which i like more from GVF. Loved Darkfighter from Rival Sons earlier this year & i am looking forward to the follow-up at the end of the year.
@joet6434 I detect some Soul influence in Rival Sons. Also, some Bad Company
Greta is the new Zeppelin and Dirty Honey is the New Aerosmith. Embrace it. Both have great music. Just remember Zep was influenced by blues. People back then might have said hey they stole thier sound from the blues guys. Everyone influences everyone.
GVF has a much more varied sonic palette than dirty honey who are quite frankly Aerosmith
greta van fleet gona be one of the best album this year
I love this album and it’s even better live.
Yes, this album is great.
The story of how this album was made is pretty interesting. They were rehearsing the songs in the studio and the producer recorded it and said, " thats it guys, the album is recorded and done."
The result is a more stripped down sound than Garden's Gate. The songs are very well written and shine through with the simpler production. Great album.
A VERY FINE ALBUM
Danny and Sam were best of friends since grade school. Get your facts straight.
Love this album. Like it better than the last one. I don’t get all the hate for these guys.
I love this band so much! Why so much criticism from the boomer crowd?
They get hate from young people too.
It’s a combination of talent, youth and good looks that make people feel bad about themselves
True. The only thing that really matters is: does it sound good and are the songs good and can they play and sing? Yes to all of them. Love Pete's take on this. Unprejudiced.
I'm very pleased at their success, they are playing at Wembley Arena here in the UK in November. What I've heard of the album so far I've liked but they certainly not trying to encourage people to buy the cd with that uninspiring packaging so I might buy the MP3!
The Vinyl comes with more stuff inside (they’re big on their vinyls) Also new cars these days don’t have CD players.
Really enjoying this one so far. Agree with many of your comments about people carping about a lack of originality in modern music. There's stacks of it. It's just not what many of us call rock music.
This band has grown on me. I was sort of against them when their first EP came out, but I've changed my mind. Their sound is derivative, of course, but the songwriting is pretty solid nonetheless. The Battle at Garden's Gate is a pretty impressive album, in my opinion. I still have to buy the new one.
Edit: I got the new album, and I think it's their best. Rawer in sound and textures when compared to the previous one, but also retaining the more complex and almost proggy approach to the composition. Love it!
Great review Pete I agree 100%.
As bad as this packaging is, the new Foo Fighters album But Here We Are is even worse, both the album covers (front and back) and the liner notes (which consists of only lyrics, no credits) are all white with gray letters that are illegible unless you hold it directly under light. Fine album musically but it has to be the single worst packaging I’ve ever seen
I think they are great they are making songs the old way, this new stuff where all you have to do is scream and sound like the devil is a cheap way out for for calling yourself a band.😊
I think the album is pretty good but could have been produced better. They got a Grammy nom out of it so that is impressive. Im just a little concerned about the future of the band and Im really looking out for something big in the future like a better version of Gardens Gate.
Concerned for their future? Are you scared they are going to blow your mind?
Great band! Yeah the early stuff was very zeppy, but the last few albums I think they are coming into their own... I really enjoy a lot of their music . Im 59, I grew up on Zep and I can forgive and enjoy what they are doing.
Thank you! I hate people that won’t give them a chance after hearing Highway Tune. Their first EPs and album was very Zep but theyve moved farther away into their own sound after AOTPA.
@@jonathandavis657 They are a amazing band! I like the early stuff as well
Jake and Josh are 27
It's a good album, not their best. It's all very moderate and tempered in its general tempo track to track without any real unleashed more high-paced rockers. Still a big fan though and I appreciate how they are carrying the torch for the true "classic" rock sound of the 70s.
Love the album!Thanks Pete!
Danny has said they are already working on a double album. Cant wait and BTW I love Starcatcher. I had it on repeat one weekend and just started appreciating it more. Stand outs to me are “Waited All Your Life” and “The Archer”
He said they have material ready that would fill a double album hypothetically, not that they will put out a double album. Considering how lava records is milking them, they will never put a double album but just one record at the time and then the usual exhausting tour after each of them
I never understood some of the criticism of GVF...the reminder of Led Zeppelin is there, clearly, but I thought music is based largely on prior influences anyway.
Something, oftentimes, is derived from something else and the time has more than arrived for people to compartmentalize the greats such as Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, Little Richard, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath, Van Halen....whomever....
Those guys and others had the privilege of being a part of the birthing process of the Rock genre....all of them arrived within the first 14 years roughly.
That allowed tons of room for originality and a legendary British Invasion to take the world over.
Another 52-53 years has passed since then and the genre is old enough to collect Social Security checks, and qualify for a senior discount at Denny's, but i digress.
Along with that stark reality should be the realization that there is only so much originality, uniqueness or whatever one can reasonably expect from a genre that's roughly 67 years old.
The last point is something Pete pointed out and he's right. It's a very fair and realistic observation.
Or as I often say, the reason why we had Mozart in the first place, is because there could only be one.
Holding bands accountable to the past on an impossible grading curve (or expectation) is not going to do the genre or it's musicians any constructive good.
I think one needs to consider that what Rock bands do produce today, has to be judged on the merits of what that band CAN reasonably do. If it's good or great then it's good or great for what it's meant to be.
If it's awful then it's awful, but if it is awful, try not to use the past to place said band into the awful. That means we are being challenged to govern our subjectivity with a little critical thinking.
I know...I know, much easier to say and for many, including yours truly, a much harder enterprise to take on.
It is very hard not to entrench as one ages...the older stuff that's time-tested is emotional comfort food, you get entrenched because they were great, original, fresh, new, and innovative. They also shaped one's formative years in many cases. Bias is an almost impossible drug habit to kick when it comes to music listening.
There's no rehab for that addiction.
How many times do we all here or see the comment regarding how the old stuff is better then the today stuff?
It's THE cliché of all clichés...
But is it true?
Probably.
But I think that inhibits growth to those who embrace this genre and all other forms of recorded music (audiophiles included) from discovery. I suspect there's a lot of un-discovery going on out there, but that's just me.
If that sums up how you approach music then that's fine - but to me it looks very "mechanical" with too much over-thinking and complexity in there. For me, music is just down to emotions, I like what I like and don't like what I don't.
I would never categorise any musicians making live music today to be "awful" and fully respect their capabilities to get up in front of a live audience and play. If bands like Greta Van Fleet become the younger generation's version of Led Zeppelin then more power to them, I wish them every success - but, to me, they just sound like a tribute band and I can just let them get on with what they are doing. They probably don't want a "grumpy old man" like me in their audience anyway.
The fact that many young bands are plagiarising the rock music of the 1970's just demonstrates the permanence of the classic rock sound - and, yes, the bands from the 1970's, in turn, plagiarised rock 'n' roll and black blues too.
But ultimately music, to me, comes down to how it goes into the ear - and if when it goes into the ear it makes me think "Hmmm, sounds like Zep, I feel like sticking on "Houses Of The Holy" now" then so be it and it's not really for someone like you to try to educate me otherwise.
You might as well tell someone who spends months renovating and customising a classic car from the 1950's to stop what they are doing and just go buy a modern saloon car! That's how ridiculous you sound above.
The criticism is very much summarized by the concept of envy in this case
I wish this was better than it is. I liked Meeting the Master a lot, and also liked Sacred the Thread, but the album wasn't the leap forward i wanted. Still think the band gets a lot of unfair stick and will keep an eye on them
Yeah, I thought they were evolving amazingly but this record isn'.t much an evolution from last record, which is better in my opinion. Still love them, but expected a bit better.
@stephanea5364 keep listening to it, I felt that way at first too. I was wrong!
I'll sure listen to it a lot more Cheers@@dianabarreras6872
When it comes to Led Zep, I’m pretty much in the Simon Bray camp……and yet I do like GvF!
Having said that, I don’t think this album is as good as it’s predecessor.
Kind of the " everything OLD is NEW again " thing. Which is not a bad thing at all. Give them all a chance .
Fine album to me.
I am with you on younger bands who have embraced the classic rock traditions The jury is still out with me on this one but I loved The Battle At Garden's Gate and I think this new release will on on both of its feet. Too bad labels are skipping back on the packaging since everything has pretty much has gone to download. When you brought that up in the beginning of the review I thought the music itself was going to bet a bad review but I am glade you like it.
Great review!
Great band
I honestly can’t understand how people say the singer’s voice is great. I think it’s horrible. He doesn’t sing, he screeches!
Can’t understand what comes out of his mouth. I think the rest of the band has talent. They just need to get a decent singer.
At this point GVF has surpased Zeppelin.. I saw them a few months ago and the show was amazing. Trolls: Don't bother coming after me for my opinion.
These guys are the real deal and the oldest members are 27 so much more to come!!❤❤❤
Totally agree with your comments on Zeppelin Peter great young rock band i love them .
I was pretty into this band when they first came to the scene. Kinda fell out. Started focusing a little too much on flower power ballad stuff. This album was alright, dont see me reaching for it much though. Obviously the elephant in the room will always be the plagarism thing. Theres a track on here that sounds just like when the levee breaks lol.
A good album doesn't need all the hoopla
If only they would get rid of that screaming banshee wail of a vocalist. The music gets no chance to shine with his constant noises which seems to be getting more pronounced with every release. If they would enlist a more soulful richer toned vocalist this band would improve immeasurably. As for the insert pics...maybe not a good idea guys. Also the music, as per the last album, is overwrought and maybe a little more light and shade wouldn't go amiss. I still think their 1st official album is their best and i was hoping for some development but the last 2 ,for me, have seen stagnation. Sorry Pete but this vocalist does not sound like Plant to my ears. His tone is entirely different but his delivery is maybe a little similar. He sounds more like Geddy Lee on helium. In the final analysis it all sounds a bit samey which is the polar opposite of Zeppelin.
If only Rush got rid of Geddy lee and LZ got rid of Robert Plant...
@@stephanea5364 at least they didn't squawk the whole time and the music could 'breathe'. For me this band could be so good...bloody frustrating. No doubt i'm in a tiny minority. but the other 3 guys are damn good...i just want to hear more of them.
This new record is the only one who doesn't breathe.@@Baz63
I'm with you man. I just can't get past the banshee.
To compare this guy (favorably) with those two is ludricous.@@stephanea5364
I'll be the one to say Can't stand the voice. Sorry Folks. Music sounds good but as soon as he starts singing its like nails on the chalk board. I'm always open to listen to new music regardless of genre but this band just isn't my cup of tea.
Probably not as good as their previous ones but definitely a good album. The Zeo comparison is still there but there's some Queen too
I just can't stand this band. I have no problem with them sounding like a lot of other stuff, I just don't think their songs are very good. Hats off to Joshua for his recent coming out, though. That's got to be even harder for a person who is followed so closely by so many people. Thanks for the review either way, Pete!
There are so many great newer rock bands out there, I don't get how these guys got the push and exposure that these other bands deserve.
We don’t care about alt and indie rock
Because they are good that's why 😂
I actually like this one the most out of all their stuff, this one sounds that bit more experimental and original. I'm hearing some YES influences now too. This is the only album of theirs that has kept my attention and made me look more into them..
Thier double EP has those really zeppelin sounding songs and I'd just prefer to listen to the real led zeppelin over that stuff but I'm glad they're sounding more themselves now.
I like Greta Van Fleet and while I appreciate the last two albums, I was somewhat disappointed in them.
I love what they do; I wish there were more young bands doing this kind of music. But I don't think the last two albums are as good as the earlier stuff.
I _loved_ Anthem Of The Peaceful Army. The last two albums have a few really good songs and I don't think there are any _bad_ songs on them, but I was expecting a lot more from them after AOTPA.
I'm hoping the next album is their opus, but we'll see.
I saw them live during the AOTPA tour - a few feet from the stage - and they were awesome. Really good live band.
I love the retro sound but not the retro fashion; it has an off-putting cosplay vibe.
I just watched another channel’s review of Greta Van Fleet and the guy hated this album. I have liked this band for a couple years so I was kind of disappointed with his reaction. But he gave Travis Scott’s new album a rave review. I used to really like rap but this trap stuff is lousy to me. I try to like young people’s music but some of it is a sonic equivalent of someone ringing an annoying doorbell over and over again. No musicianship at all.
Fantano is secretly obsessed with Greta Van Fleet and has a gay crush on the bassist. This is an industry secret you didnt hear from me
Millennials said a few years ago that Greta Van Fleet is better than Zeppelin. You gotta be kidding LOL. GVF is not even in the same galaxy. They're not some "new" band either and was formed back in 2012. It only took them over 5 years to put out their first EP which got marginal reviews. As opposed to Zeppelin who released no less than SIX albums in 6 years from 1969-75. What I heard from GVF was decent but was less than mind-blowing. Good luck to them but it just ain't my thing. I'll stick with Zeppelin, Stones, Sabbath, Purple, Rush, etc. That's plenty for me..
Right but with the exception of a couple of those bands, they ain’t gonna be putting out anything new. GVF is a band for people who want new music in that kind of classic rock style. Its not a competition to see whether they can surpass those classic guys, It’s about simply a new band doing some cool stuff in that style. It doesn’t mean that you have to stop listen to your 1970s favourites or that you have to buy a GVF record.
@@jimmycampbell78 --Well hopefully at least GVF knows they will never be Zeppelin and are now trying too hard to look "cool" wearing mascara and glitter LOL. But their rabid fans sure don't and most likely never will..
Agreed. One would be better served by listening to the Rival Sons.....far more original than GVF, better musicianship and not a fraction of the commercial HYPE.
@@garyh.238 Rival Sons are more derivative than GVF. They have a more limited and “safe” music palette, they are classic rock 101. Greta Van Fleet have so many more nuances and influences. Even RS drummer said GVF are some of the best musicians alive. I mean, it doesnt take genius to realize it tho..
@@Tityretupatulae At least Rival Sons use their influences wisely and inject far more originality and muscianship into their compositions. GVF are simply knock off Zep clones who somehow benefit from massive overkill media & industry hype. That's what makes them a "safe" choice....
Mystifyingly, they are already accepted, lavishly praised and promoted by the music industry / media establishment, and for that reason, will never truly be taken seriously in the long run. Just like American Idol contestants, no matter how talented.
GVF is simply a symptom of the commercial bloat and direction which the music industry has morphed into in the past 3 decades. We were told in the 90s that Grunge was going to reset the rock landscape....well that lasted about what?.... 3 years, maybe 4 until it collapsed under the weight of over-expectation. Then Nu Metal was the next new thing, but that never gained any real traction. Now in the age of streaming, autotune, AI, etc; true musical originality and performance are becoming a dying art. So now to assuage the doubters, the industry has created this little niche thing called GVF which it wants us to believe, will lead us to the promised land of real musical authenticity. Nothing could be further from the truth.
That saviours of rock and roll schtick might work if they really did something novel instead of purloining riffs, chord progressions, etc etc already realized by multiple other bands in decades past. Now If you want to hear real originality and rawness, try Clutch. Genius comes from unlikely sources.
Have to admit, don’t understand the hype. Tried to give their music a chance and it just didn’t happen. The Led Zep comparisons are weak and they just don’t elicit any emotion from me with their sound. To each his own.
😖No no no no no no no no no no no no and…no. Did I say no? With that being said I can kinda stomach Highway Tune. If he wails one more “Ooooh Mama!” I’m taking icepicks to my ears. 🤕
I mentioned in chat, GVF was the first big outdoor show I saw in late summer '21, mainly by default. I was starved for rock! They were entertaining but still lacked a lot of elements for greatness. Even the guitar solos were a bit s**t. I really wished I could have seen Vintage Caravan instead. Back in April 21, 2021, they released The Battle at Garden's Gate on the same day Vintage Caravan released Monuments, as well as a Motorpsycho album. I subtitled the Kings of Rock battle review: "Gnomes and Scandinavians from the land of ice and fire do battle at the Garden Monument of Oblivion. Who will reign as kings of monumental rock mountain, who will tend the garden, and will both be obliterated by their elders?"
Motorpsycho crushed them all, but as far as the GVF sound, Iceland's The Vintage Caravan is superior in every way. I think the new one is a dip in quality after the patchy previous album. Yet it all sounds like music I would/should like. It's annoying.
Vintage Caravan are definitely preferred over GVF for this guy. I own a couple of GVF releases and 3 VC albums. To me they are light years apart. Vintage Caravan are so talented and underrated it's criminal. I'm not sure if Pete has ever reviewed VC. I have never heard anyone speak about them on any of his platforms.
First things first, for physical media buyers, the packaging and presentation is an insult. It's cheap and low effort. The album itself unfortunately doesn't get a much better assessment from me. There may be some good songs and ideas buried in there somewhere but the production is such a mess that it's an album I feel like I have to strain to hear anything coherent. I have always loved Josh's vocals but I can't understand a word he's saying. After a few listens it's gotten slightly better than my initial disappointment but this will not rank high in my albums of 2023 or in Greta Van Fleet's catalog in general.
I really never took em seriously. Maybe I should go back and listen to them. I initially liked them but for some reason I could not listen to them without cringing and thinking about Zeppelin
Jealousy
Jealousy??
No Wonder the rock is Dead with such bands...
They are simply amazing
@@Tityretupatulae Led Zeppelin was amazing
@@franciskocher200Zeppelin blatantly stole lyrics from the old Blues masters. This band may have a Zep sound, but they do unique things with it.
@@franciskocher200they might be amazing for the four generations of bluesmen’s descendants who have been living off their settlement money for sure
With their swords...ha ha very funny
The production on this is an abortion. too bad, because the songs are really good. Dave Cobb shouldn't produce a record with so many layers of instrumentation, he just can't, it seems. Stay with Stapleton
They should have used the guy from the previous record, who did an amazing job,. That record breathes and layers instrumentation are well separated@@The_Uninivited_Guest
Couldn't agree more
@@stephanea5364the production of the previous record was equally criticized. Short memory
I don,t care about opinion of people who don,t have ears or listen on cheap system. Last record prod is amazing, and it's objectively true@@Tityretupatulae
@@stephanea5364I’m not the one saying it. I just report what the music nerds online say. I personally think that people are intimated by their talent and would hang on any excuse to trash them. This sounds good on my 100 pounds earbuds
I just listened to this album, and this is nothing I would go back to. 2/5
Greta Varrrrrrrrrrn Fleet?? Kind of like that old band, Varrrrrrrrrrn Halen??? Jeez....:). Try and get their name correct on the next album perhaps?
Terrific album. As was their last.
How about Greta Vaughn Fleet?
Great band,but get a decent producer. Can't hear Any of the vocals. SO disappointing. And get someone to to design a decent record cover. Thier last two were crap. And give us lyrics so we can understand what is being sung.
Man...these guys burst onto the scene 2019/20 and I loved it...then they morphed into over produced, over managed, corporate hard rock to feed the money maker. Still like the occasional songs but not the energy, excitement of several years ago.
Seems like everyone walks on eggshells regarding GVF, trying to be over the top kind and forgiving of this band. Sorry, they are derivative-not necessarily a bad thing- and downright awful- definitely a bad thing.
Some of the best musicians at the moment
@@Tityretupatulae Uh, no. Not really.
This band is so good it’s scary
Doesn’t buy Ozzy’s album but buys the Fake Zep band. Nice
Don't see the connection. Nice that you support Ozzy, but so much don't. It seems like Ozzy is catering to the masses. He has collaborated with people like Post Malone and the guy that produced Miley Cyrus. I have talked to many people that haven't liked what Ozzy has done in thirty years. Also, GVF is far from "fake Zep". On their previous album, The Battle At Garden's Gate, they went for a very progressive and cinematic sound. I like Zep as the much as the next guy, but they stole from plenty of people. Plus, I lost respect for Robert for being catty to Jimmy. In 2012, Jimmy asked Robert if he would be interested in playing more Zep shows next year. Robert said that he was busy in 2013, but would be free in 2014. So, Jimmy asked him in 2014. Robert responded by telling Jimmy to take a nap. Also, Robert has been very complimentary to this band in the press. So, blame him.