She ain’t wrong. Beethoven laid on his piano to feel the music. AC/DC uses Marshall stacks to reach your core with volume and visceral penetration, What’s the difference? Not much, methinks.
I can't believe she just name-dropped Iron Maiden. BTW the documentary she talks about is Flight 666. Nothing but respect for this woman: her anthropological comparison of RnR and Hiphop is spot on.
I can't but notice some parallels with how I feel about video games. Older games used to be made from smaller teams, not big companies with very standarized process of production, you would find little imperfections here and there and that was ok and interesting, there was not much hand holding or streamlining of the experiences. It felt more genuine and there was more love and passion from the smaller teams.
Also, older video games are more difficult. Similarly to music, modern video games are designed to hold your hand the entire way and not expect a long attention spam. New music is easier to digest because most of the impact it has comes from the lyrics, which is much easier to interpret than music itself. Having said that, there is still a lot of great music out there, especially on youtube. There is an enormous number of new musicians popping up now, based on instruments being cheaper (especially guitars) and the availability of sources for learning. When rap dies down a bit, there will be new musicians to take the spotlight.
You got it, dude. Can you imagine a _Burning Rangers_ existing Nowadays? A _Panzer Dragoon?_ _Panzer Dragoon_ floored Spielberg when Sega showed it to him in the mid 90's. Or even a Sonic 3 with it's bizarre music and aesthetic.
Who thought she would become the most important rock critic of our time by being the only one championing the raw masculinity of rock at a time when in order to get a job write about any cultural output you have to be against "toxic masculinity".
Currently, and for the last ten years, there has been the trend of new bands going with late 60's through the 70's sounds. Which I understand, as the hard rock and metal of the 70's is the best. I feel like, with the way Social Justice is going, that there will be a new hard music era dawning very soon. As for the 70's, run down these albums start to finish at high volume with good bass and rejoice: Secret Treaties, 1974 Machine Head, 1972 Death Walks Behind You, 1970 Vol. 4, 1972 Kingdom Come, 1970 Over-Nite Sensation, 1973 Long Live Rock 'n Roll, 1978 Fly By Night, 1975 Free-For-All, 1976 Demons and Wizards, 1972 (not enough is ever said about the early Uriah Heep albums, these are truly forgotten gems) Molly Hatchet, 1978 (no really, go and listen to the whole first album) L.A.M.F, 1977 Blank Generation, 1977
Yodie Yuh I really hope that you are correct regarding a new hard music coming around the corner. I have to listen to contemporary pop at one of my jobs and it is seriously lacking in the rock element. Philosophically, I like the idea that more women are doing music now, but aesthetically, I have to admit that most of it sucks. I'm looking forward to a change!
She is right rock is dead . Hip hop is old too. I can not wait for something new. You need proper hi-fi sound through good Us, French,german ,brittish or Canadian speakers. Camilles is right about the sound.
I miss the music from the 70s and 80s...you know, when the music industry was still white. Unlike today, where its just black music or white chics that sound like black chics.
The 70s was literally just White people wearing curly Afro-textured wigs and singing with Black American accents to genres like “jazz rock” (literally just an ampy version of Black American music from the Delta Blues era). Try to exist in the reality that’s ACTUALLY taking place and not the one that’s only taking place in your mind. What do you tell yourself? What’s it like to live in a reality that doesn’t actually exist? Most of the music industry was NOT White in this time (the 1970’s?? are you FUCKING serious??). It was just easier for you to live in a bubble and insulate yourself with the illusion of an music business tailored for Whites. A lot of people enjoyed Black music during those decades and it was GLOBALLY contagious. Look at the music of Japan from this time. It’s all Jazz and Funk. Black as hell. The only way to live a life without multiple races of people here is to simply not live a life. I wish they would take all you dust-for-brains supremacists and shove you in a rocket to be launched direct you at the sun. We don’t want YOU here anymore than you wanna be here with us. You SUCK at sharing and it’s not fair to everyone else. Either go to therapy for your racism or just leave us all alone.
I'd love to ask her about what she thinks about Death and Black metal haha. It's fairly testosterone driven, although as much as I love Black metal a shit ton of those guys are giant weenies XD ::satan::
Rock music is still out there but not big as mainstream pop. The problem is there is too many similar sounding bands. In modern rock, I'd say about pre 2010, there was so much variety and now we barely get some hits or spikes now and then. One band I can think of that broke the rules is A Day To Remember. They're beating other bands of that scene by storm.
I agree TOTALLY with Camille and "shocked" that she hits the nail on the head so prolifically and as a "fan". But the man asking about the music, is the encapsulation of what the general public think of what's out there, all dictated by "Radio" and trends by _bean counters_ , NOT Agents that looked for talent, real talent as the industry did till the mid to late 80's. And by musicians that play an instrument. They looked for artists with longevity. Or Top 40 music of today and the last 35 years, with the identifiable repeated chorus and "gimmicky" hooks (which much of it now has a name; "The Millenial Whoop") as a stimulus to the brain that is comforted by linear familiar beats and pulses. Nothing derivative, literally something you can wash the dishes to and pay no mind. I stopped listening to music (by choice) in 1997. I looked for music on my own, then reading trade magazines, later sharing music on social media. People have stereotypes and cliches about Metal/Hard Rock (and sure, there are classic cliches), but the music is not for everyone, because its meant to shock, anger and thin out the herd. If you stick around for its many subgenres, moods, aggression, beauty, complexity, melody, simplicity, angular/atypical and changing tones (sometimes ALL in "1" song), then YOU have a different ear for this music. You understand that its not just "Rock" or AOR, or popular music (be it Underground, or Progressive Rock & Prog Metal, or other musics that don't get played on the radio), and its MEANT to be "different", virtuosic, self-indulgent and over the top. It's the musics "traits". I also love "simple" music too, and I grew up with all types of music since 1963, even those those "1 hit wonders" - but somehow it had talent, skills. If it was how it was recorded, or how it was composed, but there was quality in what was said, how it was played. This included R&B, Funk and Soul pre-1980, it once had "soul", deeper meaning and musicianship. If anyone has the "curiosity" to checkout music they may never have heard of, and don't mind how aggressive, musical, musician-minded, self-indulgent and "different" . . . please go to my Yt channel and checkout the various "Themed" Playlists, and I am sure, if not most of it, you will find 2 to 20 types of music and tracks that show you what "music" can be and enjoy. And it goes beyond; "It has a great beat and I can dance to it" ;) . . . Music can also think outside of the box, break rules and challenge the heartbeat, the mind, and even the musicians themselves. But also - be patient, do not "speed through" songs, let it seep-in, wait for the change of "moods" and transitions, no matter how short or LONG the tracks are, please stay and listen and take the journey :). Also watch Jazz Trumpeter *Wynton Marsalis* talk about music . . . "Music is Life": ua-cam.com/video/oUaLc1zabVo/v-deo.html
Camille Paglia can feel the bass.
She ain’t wrong. Beethoven laid on his piano to feel the music. AC/DC uses Marshall stacks to reach your core with volume and visceral penetration,
What’s the difference? Not much, methinks.
👍
This woman is real. She understands how the world is changing and wants to let the average person know what is happening. She is raw news.
She's such a genius.
I can't believe she just name-dropped Iron Maiden. BTW the documentary she talks about is Flight 666.
Nothing but respect for this woman: her anthropological comparison of RnR and Hiphop is spot on.
Her brain moves faster than her mouth. Smart lady. Learning a lot
I LOVE HER. SOOO MUCH.
I can't but notice some parallels with how I feel about video games. Older games used to be made from smaller teams, not big companies with very standarized process of production, you would find little imperfections here and there and that was ok and interesting, there was not much hand holding or streamlining of the experiences. It felt more genuine and there was more love and passion from the smaller teams.
Also, older video games are more difficult. Similarly to music, modern video games are designed to hold your hand the entire way and not expect a long attention spam. New music is easier to digest because most of the impact it has comes from the lyrics, which is much easier to interpret than music itself. Having said that, there is still a lot of great music out there, especially on youtube. There is an enormous number of new musicians popping up now, based on instruments being cheaper (especially guitars) and the availability of sources for learning. When rap dies down a bit, there will be new musicians to take the spotlight.
You got it, dude.
Can you imagine a _Burning Rangers_ existing Nowadays? A _Panzer Dragoon?_ _Panzer Dragoon_ floored Spielberg when Sega showed it to him in the mid 90's. Or even a Sonic 3 with it's bizarre music and aesthetic.
I feel like every developing Artist should hear this.
How can you not love her mannerisms ?? 🥰 She is just so fun to watch.
Mastodon ya'll. Mother fuckin Mastodon.
Why so much tambourine though? My only peeve with it so far.
She's right. Hip Hop is basically just pop music now. Meaning it's for kids and has no real edge any longer. It's corny.
SLAAAYYYYEEERRRRR!!!!!!
So agree with her.
What is her favorite Rolling Stones song???
BRILLIANT
Some country singers still have it.
Steel Panther still has it.
RATT
Slayyyer!
Who thought she would become the most important rock critic of our time by being the only one championing the raw masculinity of rock at a time when in order to get a job write about any cultural output you have to be against "toxic masculinity".
Currently, and for the last ten years, there has been the trend of new bands going with late 60's through the 70's sounds. Which I understand, as the hard rock and metal of the 70's is the best. I feel like, with the way Social Justice is going, that there will be a new hard music era dawning very soon.
As for the 70's, run down these albums start to finish at high volume with good bass and rejoice:
Secret Treaties, 1974
Machine Head, 1972
Death Walks Behind You, 1970
Vol. 4, 1972
Kingdom Come, 1970
Over-Nite Sensation, 1973
Long Live Rock 'n Roll, 1978
Fly By Night, 1975
Free-For-All, 1976
Demons and Wizards, 1972 (not enough is ever said about the early Uriah Heep albums, these are truly forgotten gems)
Molly Hatchet, 1978 (no really, go and listen to the whole first album)
L.A.M.F, 1977
Blank Generation, 1977
Yodie Yuh I really hope that you are correct regarding a new hard music coming around the corner. I have to listen to contemporary pop at one of my jobs and it is seriously lacking in the rock element. Philosophically, I like the idea that more women are doing music now, but aesthetically, I have to admit that most of it sucks. I'm looking forward to a change!
She is right rock is dead . Hip hop is old too. I can not wait for something new. You need proper hi-fi sound through good Us, French,german ,brittish or Canadian speakers. Camilles is right about the sound.
I miss the music from the 70s and 80s...you know, when the music industry was still white. Unlike today, where its just black music or white chics that sound like black chics.
Divan Linnow the father of rocknroll is Chuck Berry, a black dude who catered to white audiences. Music is always about mixin it up!
The 70s was literally just White people wearing curly Afro-textured wigs and singing with Black American accents to genres like “jazz rock” (literally just an ampy version of Black American music from the Delta Blues era).
Try to exist in the reality that’s ACTUALLY taking place and not the one that’s only taking place in your mind. What do you tell yourself? What’s it like to live in a reality that doesn’t actually exist? Most of the music industry was NOT White in this time (the 1970’s?? are you FUCKING serious??). It was just easier for you to live in a bubble and insulate yourself with the illusion of an music business tailored for Whites. A lot of people enjoyed Black music during those decades and it was GLOBALLY contagious. Look at the music of Japan from this time. It’s all Jazz and Funk. Black as hell.
The only way to live a life without multiple races of people here is to simply not live a life. I wish they would take all you dust-for-brains supremacists and shove you in a rocket to be launched direct you at the sun. We don’t want YOU here anymore than you wanna be here with us. You SUCK at sharing and it’s not fair to everyone else. Either go to therapy for your racism or just leave us all alone.
I'd love to ask her about what she thinks about Death and Black metal haha. It's fairly testosterone driven, although as much as I love Black metal a shit ton of those guys are giant weenies XD ::satan::
DOOMspeaks modern metal sounds satanic but at the time black sabbath had that title but ozzy had a voice of an angel a beautiful fallen angel
and i could actually HEAR the lyrics
Yeah. Has she heard Belphegor?
Rock music is still out there but not big as mainstream pop. The problem is there is too many similar sounding bands. In modern rock, I'd say about pre 2010, there was so much variety and now we barely get some hits or spikes now and then. One band I can think of that broke the rules is A Day To Remember. They're beating other bands of that scene by storm.
The fact that she likes the Stones above the overrated Beatles, makes me love her even more
Camille is Punk before punk!
. . . in other words; today's music sucks
I don't think she is educated much on 21st century popular or underground music
75% of the popular music sold in the world is Hip Hop......
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
That's where you lost me......smh
I agree TOTALLY with Camille and "shocked" that she hits the nail on the head so prolifically and as a "fan". But the man asking about the music, is the encapsulation of what the general public think of what's out there, all dictated by "Radio" and trends by _bean counters_ , NOT Agents that looked for talent, real talent as the industry did till the mid to late 80's. And by musicians that play an instrument. They looked for artists with longevity.
Or Top 40 music of today and the last 35 years, with the identifiable repeated chorus and "gimmicky" hooks (which much of it now has a name; "The Millenial Whoop") as a stimulus to the brain that is comforted by linear familiar beats and pulses. Nothing derivative, literally something you can wash the dishes to and pay no mind. I stopped listening to music (by choice) in 1997. I looked for music on my own, then reading trade magazines, later sharing music on social media.
People have stereotypes and cliches about Metal/Hard Rock (and sure, there are classic cliches), but the music is not for everyone, because its meant to shock, anger and thin out the herd. If you stick around for its many subgenres, moods, aggression, beauty, complexity, melody, simplicity, angular/atypical and changing tones (sometimes ALL in "1" song), then YOU have a different ear for this music. You understand that its not just "Rock" or AOR, or popular music (be it Underground, or Progressive Rock & Prog Metal, or other musics that don't get played on the radio), and its MEANT to be "different", virtuosic, self-indulgent and over the top. It's the musics "traits". I also love "simple" music too, and I grew up with all types of music since 1963, even those those "1 hit wonders" - but somehow it had talent, skills. If it was how it was recorded, or how it was composed, but there was quality in what was said, how it was played. This included R&B, Funk and Soul pre-1980, it once had "soul", deeper meaning and musicianship.
If anyone has the "curiosity" to checkout music they may never have heard of, and don't mind how aggressive, musical, musician-minded, self-indulgent and "different" . . . please go to my Yt channel and checkout the various "Themed" Playlists, and I am sure, if not most of it, you will find 2 to 20 types of music and tracks that show you what "music" can be and enjoy.
And it goes beyond; "It has a great beat and I can dance to it" ;) . . . Music can also think outside of the box, break rules and challenge the heartbeat, the mind, and even the musicians themselves.
But also - be patient, do not "speed through" songs, let it seep-in, wait for the change of "moods" and transitions, no matter how short or LONG the tracks are, please stay and listen and take the journey :).
Also watch Jazz Trumpeter *Wynton Marsalis* talk about music . . . "Music is Life": ua-cam.com/video/oUaLc1zabVo/v-deo.html