Camille Paglia on Women and Magic in Hitchcock
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Writer Camille Paglia offers a beginners' guide to Hitchcock at the start of a lecture on the director's complex portrayal of women.
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This woman could fascinate me by just giving a lecture on after dinner mints.
Oh! Oh! Don't even get me STARTED on dinner mints, are you kidding me?!?!
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She definitely has “It.”
PAGLIA IS ONE OF OUR GREAT THINKERS BUT NOT APPRECIATED AS SHE SHOULD BE AND HER WORK !
This little woman fascinates me. I could listen to her day and night quite contentedly, never feeling the need or even the remotest inclination to utter one syllable. I mean, what would be the point?
The late '80's. I was tragically resigned to the ultimate victory of the neo-Victorian, politically correct, Feminist's Movt,, and then I channel surfed upon Camille on the Dick Cavett Show, I think. How refreshing it was to hear a super articulate lady speak about the freedom so hard fought for by women and men before the prudes gained dominance in feminist movt. The idea is to flourish as an individual, not conform to a formula. We have a lot to thank Camille for.
She has a brilliant heart.
Welcome back, Camille! Reading Paglia steeled me for grad school (English) and helped me to hold on to the priority of art in the "arts," over and against sneering, reductive theory. Her passion is evident here. So many academics fancy themselves removed from humanity. Paglia's always been about the muck and the mire. I especially like her unpacking of Hitchcock's ambivalence towards women. So much more to explore than *hand-slap* "Bad patriarch! Bad!"
I could listen to her and Zizek talk about film all day, every day. And I could listen to her talk about anything.
I would watch those two in a room together like an MMA fight.
My favorite was Rear Window. Loved Paglia's study of The Birds.
A fantastic book. Some great theories and opinions on the film
Hello. I agree with you. I have Paglia's The Birds study and it's excellent. My favourites Hitchcock's are The Lady Vanishes, Rear Window and California's trilogy: Shadow of a doubt, Vertigo and The Birds.
Rear Window is much more involving and entertaining that Vertigo which is slow and plodding.
"Feminism has to start listening to Frank Sinatra and stop listening to Lacan, Derrida, and Foucault!" Hahaha! This is why I love Paglia.
Dorian Gray
Still better than those closet communists & deconstructionists. Sinatra created art, they wanted to destroy art.
@@AABB-zb6dv They contributed more and cared greater about art than Sinatra possibly could.
i’m obsessed with this woman ❤ What a genius
I compare Paglia's intelligence to Deneuve's beauty.
A gift.
OctoberOhio In her youth, she was a beautiful as Deneuve.
Thank you for that brilliant comparison!
She is brilliant.
Inspiration and perspiration...
So interesting!
I disagree strongly with Paglia on certain subjects but, my god, I can't deny that she is absolutely brilliant and persuasive.
very good
She rocks!
I read an essay on Pasolini's Salò that noted that the extraordinary voyeuristic torture sequence through binoculars at the conclusion is clearly indebted to Hitchcock's Rear Window (the author is Gian Maria Annovi, in a volume called Pasolini, Petrolio, Salò, ed. Davide Messina, p. 174).
Sounds interesting. Hitchcock could work his actors expertly.
She’s so awesome!!! YASSS
Adore her
Moar moar moar!!! post the rest PLEAAASEEE!!
what a mind
Paglia is a genius.
Is there anyone better on Hitchcock than Camille Paglia? She's feisty, smart, passionate and talks up a storm. A feminist who refuses glib labels, cant and fashionable orthodoxies.
Doris Day wrote an autobiography back in the Seventies. She did a couple of movies with Hitchcock. The first time she worked with him, she said he never said a word to her. They'd film a scene and he'd yell, "Cut!" Finally she asked him, "Don't you have any direction to give her." His famous rejoinder, "It's only a movie." She said he was the best director she ever worked with.
She did one film with Hitchcock, 'The Man Who Knew Too Much' (1956).
In it, she sang 2 songs, one of which was "Que Sera Sera".
Day got very little direction from Hitchcock and saw that he looked bored during the shooting.
She asked if he was unhappy or displeased with her performance, to which the director replied with something to the effect of 'If I'm unhappy with you, I'll tell you'.
excellent words .. but re: @5:00 .. wasn't Alma his closest longtime conspirator ?
Yes, you are correct.
She could make reading a telephone directory fascinating.
I fucking adore this woman. (Pardon my French.)
If you listen her older interviews , she speaks so slow and different. I guess she was trying to look calm in the past.
Yes, she has some kind of tick also. I think she might have been that way in the past but she hold herself . This si real her . I dont mind but sometimes she does not finish what she is saying. @@LL86675
Not at all. With age, comes the added experiences, knowledge and wisdom one garners over time. She's still got only an hour or two in these lectures, and by now, so much more to say... It's so exciting to hear her unpack it all, as she calls upon the vast array of post-it-notes in her recollection; anxious to share every last thought, her passion becomes intoxicating.
I'm a woman and I found being in the womb pretty stifling too.
Me too. Although I used hate when my mother would cycle .. the whole womb shook!?
Well, my ability to read and process language comes from my mind.
Millions of years from now future archaeologists will be digging in the dirt and find Camille Paglia's bones. Elated, they tenderly disinter and cautiously carry back her bones to their laboratory. After setting them on a table they huddle around the bones in discussion and slowly assemble the bones to where they are supposed to go. Once finished they will marvel how big and dangerous she must have been (people in the future are very little) and then come up with a name. They throw out many ideas but settle on "Philosoraptor".
If we loose her books and her wisdom then it would be a matter of bones and speculation. What a loss that would be!
Hi DeLight, I replied to your questions as best I could, but I forgot to hit your direct "reply" button .
I love this woman! Almost as much as my wife, and a strong contender with Vladmir Putin.
Okay
Did he ever meet people like Jimmy savile in East Germany
Can you imagine being her child
When you refer to Tippi Hedren you must say ALLEGED. There is ZERO evidence that anything ever happened to her and others who were there CONTRADICT her.
So, what, you're implicating some hidden essence which precedes Being through identification? The Hegelian Spirit? It seems so when you imply that her observations are not HERS as such, unless I'm reading your emphasis wrong and you're merely fixated on the fact that she identifies herself with academic activity. Furthermore, if you're claiming that Deneuve does not identify through her beauty but Paglia does via her intellect how is one's beauty equivalent to the other's intellect?
I’m glad she brought up the nonsense of hating on Hitchcock by the woke because he said hurty things to some of the actors
She is so awesome; even when stuck having a shvitz. Someone give the lady a towel.
They said of Mozart, that writing a score was just scribbling...like dictation...becuase all the work was already finished in his head.
I like listening to her but she doesn't completely explain her ideas. You know where she is going but she might leave you hanging and she doesn't take you there logically. This is not to say that she doesn't come up with lots of interesting soundbites that are thought provoking but sometimes unexplained in total. Maybe her books give her ideas more life and logic. Again i have no strong disagreement with her ideas, just not sure if a more complete explanation will hammer down her answers more convincingly.
You have to read her books. How much time can she spend at the podium? YFI
rhino79 - maybe it's because you're trying to make sense of my words with your mind and not your being.
I liked Vertigo but I still feel Jimmy Stewart was too old to play opposite Kim Novak.
I feel Kim Novak's acting is too stiff or wooden about her interpretation of Madeleine/Judy. I know she is playing a duplicitous role and then has fallen in love with her mark but whatever it is .... i just don't like her performance.
That is a really idiotic observation. Paglia's philosophy celebrates pop culture, including such pedestrian traditions as the "10 Best" poll. She rejects the old idea that ivy league intellectuals occupy a special place in society. They don't. If you're going to criticize her, criticize the actual merits of her ideas.
I think I admire Camille Paglia, but I do not agree on this one. I do not think Hitchence was denying the cultural value religion has had in history. He was against the participation -political if you will- in secular modern society. He favored the separation of the state from organized religion and values. On the other hand, what is this thing with an atheist role model? He did not present himself as that or expected to offer an array of secular monks in exchange of saints and popes. Atheism is not an alternative set of dogmatic values: he, or any atheist, does not have to offer a system of belief as an alternative to religious values.
And what is this whole insistence with the 60s? It is as they were the ultimate reference of cultural and intellectual pursuits. Sure there were interesting endeavors and writings done at the time, but there have been other (even more interesting) periods last century and many others back in history. Hitchens came from the 60s as well and as part of that generation embraced the great alternative of secular dogmatism: Radical Marxism. An ideology that have only brought serfdom and misery in the countries where it has been implemented . Hitchens moved away in his las years from that.
Being could be described as a way of non-thinking, but it's impossible to describe because thinking uses words. I couldn't explain in words how chocolate tastes, it's something you experience in yourself, words are useless.
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Deneuve is brillian beauty.
Paglia is beautiful brilliance
Both are pleasant and interesting to drink in.
And neither really matter in the dire need for the evolution of human consciousness
Vertigo is not above Citizen Jane love you though
Camille's good clean fan, but this is just rambling fanboy shtick, which leaves one with nothing we didn't all know already.
That's true Rhino79. Your mind is very limited. Language is very limited. Try going deeper.
OctoberOhio, are you stoned? On pills? Your comments make no sense whatsoever.
Her Beckett comment is pure idiocy.
Beckett had many women in his work (has she not read or seen “Happy Days”?)
Johnnyforjohnny - " . . . criticize her for the actual merits of her ideas"? It's not possible to criticize an idea one regards as having merit. It's a little like having respect for an intellectual who stoops to tallying via a ten-best list.
Strange for someone of Paglia's alleged intelligence to participate in what is essentially a "10 Best" poll.
And that being said (Paglia's intelligence = Deneuve's beauty), I think that Catherine understands that her "beauty" is not who she is.
But Camille, still unenlightened, thinks she IS her intelligence.
She seems fried here, holding on, unaware that her thoughts are not who she is. Especially at about 11 minutes in....when you feel her respond to the crowd's twitter at HER brilliant observation about Sinatra....unlike the other crowd pleasers that are nothing more than quotes. More later..
It's so frustrating when people worth listening to are so unlistenable.
At least it's not a bad as listening to Zizek :/
Chris LeRose If one does not accept the neurosis of brilliant persons, one misses the best in humanity. How interesting is Ozzie Nelson? Successful but boring.
@@pillowsrocker LOL... Yes. A real challenge.
She is very difficult to listen to. Very undisciplined speaker. Hyper in a very distracting way.
and yet the content is sprinkled with lots of brilliance
And yet thousands of people seek her out to listen to her. Crazy!
harmoniabalanza Once you accept her frame of references, which is quit coherent, that goes away.
a poorman's Susan Sontag
Ha! No comparison to that bloated depressed slob Sontag!
Susan could never come up with this.