I think total tavern should not include mirror matches when calculating the win percentage, as what you want when you look at the stats page is to see how effective a faction is against other different factions. More mirror matches skew the results towards 50%. for example, bretiona has a 33% win rate right now, take out the mirror matches and it drops to 28%. Slaanesh jumps up by 4%, TK by 3%, and Warriors of Chaos by 5%. Basically it makes things look more balanced than they really are.
Great to see HE doing well, especially Imrik. I had his model in tabletop as a kid and I've always loved him! Jeez those horsemasters are insane though, well over 1000 value on all four units is absurd.
I know I comment on almost every HE battle but thanks for casting an awesome high elf win! The new balance changes for dragons seem to have made them a lot more viable.
I really hope skirmish cav receive some down tuning in the future. Especially on chaos, the supposed heavy metal faction, they’re just so dominant and really outshine the rest of the roster
Let's hope they don't overnerf them and put their few ranged options into the trash can entirely at least. Tbh, Marauder Horsemen would be perfectly fine (and with some factions quite strong) if they did away with that silly ranged weapon in melee nonsense.
Silverin Guard are very cool in Domination against Norsca - if they take an objective, it's a total bastard to remove them. Charge Defense means they don't lose to any Norscan infantry unless you send support.
see thats the thing, on paper, the high elves have all the tools that they could need. some tanky infantry with killing power, monsters, decent cav, good shooting and a lot of magic. The only problem is that it all costs way too much
Pretty sure he hasn't been preaching that. He doesn't like the faction and it has been performing pretty poorly so far (likely down to overpricing on some of their units).
Nice to see elite units actually doing okay. The Horseman 'cheese' is a bit much though. Especially since it concerns ALL Chaos factions and Norsca, which is like 1/3 of the entire faction roster at this point. Bugged units should be limited or watched somehow. Cant believe there isnt a way to count how much ammo Tomb King artillery used, for example. Im sorry, but Casket having unlimited anno is the definition of cheating.
What's the date on a fix for the marauder horsemen. Short range, no armour, skirmish cavalry beat anti large foot archer infantry, their natural counter. That's rough.
On the topic of High Elves, are war lions buffed somehow? In WH2 they where ok but got deleted fairly fast, but fighting one of the quest battles they just refused to die eaven when staying in prolonged combat.
Awesome video Turin! I've been working on Cathay since they were considered one of the weaker factions for Dom, but I think I found an awesome build and would love to see what u think of it or maybe try it sometime? Regardless keep up the good work turin, never stop putting out these awesome videos! :)
Am I the only one who experience alot of crashes in different situations? Every time I have to verify the integrity of the files to fix it, and install again...
ua-cam.com/video/nWTX3_Jz_y4/v-deo.html \ Turin, check out the last stream of Logic... I think this is a cool idea of having an online "committee" analysing a battle in real time, preferably with presentation of different Warhammer races (Logic's stream has a French gamer with such a thick accent that it adds a lot of Breatonnian flavor to the stream). It could be very entertaining to get together a group of international TWW youtubers and let them discuss and comment different battles!
Wait, why shouldn't horsemen throw while in combat? Can't most ranged units do that, especially in guard mode/the ones in the back? Great battle though, great to see HE make good use of their strengths!
tbh, ranged units still using ranged for every model not directly engaged in melee should just be a thing for all ranged units. I mean, logically, why wouldn't you do that?
Ive always disliked skirmish type units. Fast moving ranged units that are decent in melee and can't be countered by anything other than other ranged units just feels bad. They should do far less damage than normal archers as their accuracy should be shit on horseback
Welcome to new domination! This is actually a more conservative build on that front (which is likely one of the contributing factors to Alrik's loss). He could have brought 6 units of jav cav and he only brought 4, 2 of which were in his reinforcing army rather than having all of them in his starting forces.
@@sirunklydunk8861 You're misunderstanding me. I liked domination more than land battles and I am annoyed about seeing land battle meta become dominant in dom. I preferred it when objective play was emphasized.
Any tips for playing against Kislev cheese players? I've noticed if I beat someone with their first build, they'll come back with triple leopards, dual patriarchs, Katarin, and a bunch of sleds. I figure a Morathi + dual assassin build could counter it without going full cheese and still compete against a more standard build.
The Dragons have regained much of their former strength. The High Elf meta cannot yet take physical form, but its spirit has lost none of its potency.
HEY OMG THAT'S A STAR TREK REFFRENCE
pmsl xD
Love hearing Sauroman
Well played sir... Well played.
Imrik is gathering all Asur to him. Very soon he will summon an army great enough to launch an assault upon the chaos factions.
I think total tavern should not include mirror matches when calculating the win percentage, as what you want when you look at the stats page is to see how effective a faction is against other different factions. More mirror matches skew the results towards 50%. for example, bretiona has a 33% win rate right now, take out the mirror matches and it drops to 28%. Slaanesh jumps up by 4%, TK by 3%, and Warriors of Chaos by 5%. Basically it makes things look more balanced than they really are.
That's a good point.
High Elves... good? 🤔
I love to see it. Xiphos carries the torch for HE, what a champion.
Awesome battle. Interesting to see how the elves had to be played to win here.
A wild Heir appears!
Xiphos games are always top notch entertainment.
That was really good high elf play. Losing those sisters to the pit of shades was rough but they did a damn good job of pushing back
Great to see HE doing well, especially Imrik. I had his model in tabletop as a kid and I've always loved him! Jeez those horsemasters are insane though, well over 1000 value on all four units is absurd.
I know I comment on almost every HE battle but thanks for casting an awesome high elf win! The new balance changes for dragons seem to have made them a lot more viable.
Thought I would watch an older video today. And I didn't disappoint!
Awesome video! Great to see my boy Imrik in action again!
Hail to Xyphos!
Alric’s micro dodging the archer fire before the main engagement was insane
I really hope skirmish cav receive some down tuning in the future. Especially on chaos, the supposed heavy metal faction, they’re just so dominant and really outshine the rest of the roster
Let's hope they don't overnerf them and put their few ranged options into the trash can entirely at least. Tbh, Marauder Horsemen would be perfectly fine (and with some factions quite strong) if they did away with that silly ranged weapon in melee nonsense.
Silverin Guard are very cool in Domination against Norsca - if they take an objective, it's a total bastard to remove them. Charge Defense means they don't lose to any Norscan infantry unless you send support.
i LOVE that interface in the upper right, i want that on all my matches both mp and sp
I am telling you guys Imrik the lord of the dragons is underrated but he is a beast! Amazing video as always. Let's go Dragons!
see thats the thing, on paper, the high elves have all the tools that they could need. some tanky infantry with killing power, monsters, decent cav, good shooting and a lot of magic. The only problem is that it all costs way too much
Yeah everything is just prohibitively expensive. That was the problem in land battles as well.
1:19 I'm sorry but if I see infantry run into a tower and break it to pieces with their forheads, I'm routing 😄
With marauder horsemen being so popular on pretty much all chaos factions I do like going with spear/missile hybrid inf on the factions that have them
Marauder horsemen and horsemasters needs urgently to be nerfed
That honk at 00:05 threw me off so hard. Thought there was a sneaky steam tank meme before realizing what the matchup was xD
Your commentating is so spot on Turin. Gj!
Love seeing Xiphos play elves. This was a great match. Thanks for casting!
How I love Turin to admit that h elves are not as bad as he preaches.
Pretty sure he hasn't been preaching that. He doesn't like the faction and it has been performing pretty poorly so far (likely down to overpricing on some of their units).
The domination changes seem to have really helped give strategies besides zerg rushing the objectives room to succeed.
Nice to see elite units actually doing okay. The Horseman 'cheese' is a bit much though. Especially since it concerns ALL Chaos factions and Norsca, which is like 1/3 of the entire faction roster at this point. Bugged units should be limited or watched somehow. Cant believe there isnt a way to count how much ammo Tomb King artillery used, for example. Im sorry, but Casket having unlimited anno is the definition of cheating.
Imrik, Fist of the Elves!
Love your videos Turin, been watching for few years now! Have a good day brother
Bring out Big Imrik!
House Corrino is out, Spice Wars now!
Dont know since when you are (finally) uploading your vids in HR, I havent been here for some months, but it is truly welcomed!
I played a game against Alrik the other day. It was a great game and he is a really good player.
HEAVY METAL ELVES ⚔
Man, good for Xyphos to pull this one out. Especially against some clearly broken units. GG
High elves arent too bad. Some of the coolest cav in game. Anyways nice game :)
The smug dragon lord! what a chad!
When do we get to see you and the gang return to Arrakis? The Emperor has arrived.
Is it possible to learn this power?
Not from a footlord...
What's the date on a fix for the marauder horsemen. Short range, no armour, skirmish cavalry beat anti large foot archer infantry, their natural counter. That's rough.
3:30 I felt the pain
Love to see high elves and their stupid pointy hats! GG!
On the topic of High Elves, are war lions buffed somehow? In WH2 they where ok but got deleted fairly fast, but fighting one of the quest battles they just refused to die eaven when staying in prolonged combat.
Were can we find this spectator mod? It just seems to be really useful for going over past games with more clarity.
gg. sisters as an archer unit can take a hit from a serious vortex but still keep most of theirmodels and dish out good damage.
What's the difference between regrowth and earth blood? Does regrowth heal less since it gives vigor?
Regrowth heals way more, gives vigour but is only single target unlike earthblood
The super chad Imrik!
The very first volley of javelins on Imrik form Norska made 200??
Awesome video Turin! I've been working on Cathay since they were considered one of the weaker factions for Dom, but I think I found an awesome build and would love to see what u think of it or maybe try it sometime? Regardless keep up the good work turin, never stop putting out these awesome videos! :)
Am I the only one who experience alot of crashes in different situations?
Every time I have to verify the integrity of the files to fix it, and install again...
Favorite faction. GGs
Is healing just a bit OP in wh3?
ua-cam.com/video/nWTX3_Jz_y4/v-deo.html \ Turin, check out the last stream of Logic... I think this is a cool idea of having an online "committee" analysing a battle in real time, preferably with presentation of different Warhammer races (Logic's stream has a French gamer with such a thick accent that it adds a lot of Breatonnian flavor to the stream). It could be very entertaining to get together a group of international TWW youtubers and let them discuss and comment different battles!
Wait, why shouldn't horsemen throw while in combat? Can't most ranged units do that, especially in guard mode/the ones in the back?
Great battle though, great to see HE make good use of their strengths!
Because they also attack WHILE throwing their ranged weapons. Normaly only some lords to this. Ranged units normally only can shoot or attack
tbh, ranged units still using ranged for every model not directly engaged in melee should just be a thing for all ranged units. I mean, logically, why wouldn't you do that?
Finally some lizard men😍
Oh nvm..
Ive always disliked skirmish type units. Fast moving ranged units that are decent in melee and can't be countered by anything other than other ranged units just feels bad. They should do far less damage than normal archers as their accuracy should be shit on horseback
Maurader horsemen spam every game is so boring
Every faction is doing it lol: scurvy dogs, khorne dogs, ellyrian reavers, dire wolves, centigors, etc etc. Cheap fast units are too strong atm.
Welcome to new domination! This is actually a more conservative build on that front (which is likely one of the contributing factors to Alrik's loss). He could have brought 6 units of jav cav and he only brought 4, 2 of which were in his reinforcing army rather than having all of them in his starting forces.
@@thepiousskull Acting like Horsemen weren't spammed in land battles before domination too. Complaining more won't make the game mode go away
@@sirunklydunk8861 You're misunderstanding me. I liked domination more than land battles and I am annoyed about seeing land battle meta become dominant in dom. I preferred it when objective play was emphasized.
@@thepiousskull ah. My mistake
ı never understand javelins having same accuracy as bows 😂 historically horsed javelins were terrible. no one used these type of units.
I never understand magic having same accuracy as bows. Historically horsed magicians were terrible no one used these type of units.
That new UI for replays is horrible! CA should make it look better for casters, not worse, at least give options.
It's a mod, I believe. So not great but better than nothing.
Any tips for playing against Kislev cheese players? I've noticed if I beat someone with their first build, they'll come back with triple leopards, dual patriarchs, Katarin, and a bunch of sleds. I figure a Morathi + dual assassin build could counter it without going full cheese and still compete against a more standard build.