Is Jada Lying? - (Therapist Reacts) - Chapter 1
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2023
- Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to an interview with Jada Pinkett Smith.
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“I’m confused…” he sums up all of our thoughts on this situation 😂
Aside from the parasocial relationships, I think people are interested because Jada has purported to have life wisdom and give advice while lying about her life behind the scenes. It makes all the guru stuff feel like a scam. And people hate feeling scammed.
Thank you!
the guru stuff is like 99% of the time a scam. imo. with some real life experience to back it.
So, she's been promoting herself like a guru of life and relationships? If so, then I guess I can understand the criticism.
@@PsychologyInSeattle yes this is what her "Red Table Talk" is supposed to be about. you asked if all this divulging was some sorta way to keep themselves in the news.. i think the answer is yes but NO ONE wants this.
She’s just a full on narcisstic person and a good actress. She doesn’t love will anymore but didn’t leave. Some people kill, some people gaslight, some people just properly divorce
Me: completely uninterested in reality shows and random celebrity goings on.
Dr. Kirk: reacts to it
Me: in depth research and binging shows!
Ha!
A big dynamic that I think a lot of people commenting are forgetting is that Will was completely enamored with Jada from the beginning and put her on this pedestal that she never reciprocated. She has said that Tupac was her soul mate, insinuated that she was never as in love with Will as he was her, that she cried down the aisle getting married to him and only got married because she was pregnant, and she constantly carries this theme when she is speaking about him.
I really think that Will has spent the entire time trying to make himself something and someone that would make her happy. He said on video that he was tired (after 20 some odd years) of trying to make her happy because he couldn't.
I think a lot of people relate to that position of trying to be the person you love could love, and it really makes you hang on way too long, do things you wouldn't normally do, and not want to give up because it's a failure and admitting that you will never be "enough" for this person who you thought was your forever.
Obviously that's a lot of reading into things, but based on things that they have consistently said about each other.
I think that's part of why their dynamic is so weird and why he has hung on so long. Trying to make her happy even if he doesn't agree.
I’ve read Will’s book and I’m reading Jada’s now. Your comment is missing nuance. You should read their books before you have such an opinion.
Spot on. And it shows in the moment Chris insulted her too. Will wouldn’t have gone up if it was just up to him. His need to please her only made him. And she let him make afoot out of himself quite happily instead of stopping him. She’s gaslighting expert
@@steffiblum1969 you are giving Jada a lot of power and not any to Will. They were separated at the time and had been for years. Why is a 50 year old man’s actions another person’s responsibility? I don’t know if I like Jada but after reading their books I have insight and empathy. I think a lot of ppl are just listening to sound bites or getting info second hand and making judgments.
I think ppl also forget the 30+ years of gay infidelity rumors surrounding Will. I still think that'll be the final bombshell that will fit all the pieces together. All the numerous cheating rumors about Will & his boy-toys, but he always comes back home to Jada, & Jada is tired of it. I think that's why she wants ppl to think she never really loved him, so that when he does finally come out of the closet she wont seem as pathetic for staying with a gay man, & essentially wasting her life.
Imo that's on Will. You teach people how to treat you. I think there is some type of business style relationship going on here. A black couple married 30 yrs in Hollywood. Any couple married 30 yrs is phenomenal but I would think their ethnicity carries alot of weight. We're going to be the example for all black couples. You tough it out regardless. But for her to have a plan to end her life is pretty darn unsettling. Makes you wonder what is Wills story? He's not going without a physical relationship. There's no way. Is he bi sexual? Is that part of the secret? The streets hv been talking for a long time ( quincy jones😉) it's almost like a blood contract.
According to her he begged to come on to the red table knowing everything but when he got there he decided HE WASN'T READY to tell it all. August was no surprise. I can't believe someone would let themselves be made to look like an unfaithful spouse while their other half knows she wasn't unfaithful bc they truly weren't together. Meanwhile he looks like this pathetic sad man who was blindsided when he wasn't at all.
She's also said Tupac was a soul mate. Not romantically but there was a kinship there like a twin flame. Sex or Romance wasn't in their relationship at all. Idk I think Will is being just as deceitful. He's playing the victim when he's not. Which makes her look super bad when I don't think she is. They have their plan. We're the dummies who hv fallen for it all.
I was an avid Red Table Talk watcher, and she should be apologiizg for not being honest about her life while acting like the mission was to be open and honest on all topics presented. Overall, it seems she doesn't want to be a wife to Will, but yet does not want to release him for someone else to be happy with him. I wish Will would talk more about his side of this whole thing.
She’s never honest. It’s obnoxious. She changes her story as the wind blows.
He has been supportive of her in his media posts and they've both said divorce is not an option for them.
She didn’t reveal it because Will said that he wasn’t ready. She wanted to reveal it at the sit down with him but he was against that part. That was her being supportive of his feelings. He had a lot going on in Hollywood at the moment and wasn’t ready for the world to know. That was his idea, so she spoke around it and she told the truth that was comfortable for everyone involved.
@@AMYP-HMYJ OK, but they are still confusing. How can he not ready to reveal a continued separation, but ready to discuss her entanglement with a younger man during just momentarily being apart. it’s just too much and lying by omission at a table you set up for honesty . Dont tell anything if you’re not gonna tell us enough that makes sense.
He has a book out and does discuss their relationship quite a bit. It might be worth looking into for his perspective
Jada aside, may I just say. I really enjoy listening to Dr. Hondas view on these matters? It brings this level of empathy and understanding of people in general. Personal opinion we need more of this. Thank you for always making a safe space to listen and stay curious about people. Take care! 👏🏼🙏🏼
Yeah, I follow Dr Grande as well but his take on these matters and similar situations tends to be much more callous and lacking in empathy than Dr Honda. Even when I watch other therapists cover shows like LIB (Steph Anya, for example) I just don’t get as much empathy for all people involved as Dr. Honda tends to show.
That's because Dr Grande isn't a therapist. His doctorate is in education
@@r3adrpro811 I think he is a licensed therapist or licensed supervisor of therapists.
😮 oh dear, please don’t take my comment as evidence to discredit other therapists on UA-cam. It’s a compliment to Dr Honda’s empathy and understanding of people in such a digestible manner. We must not forget Dr. Honda is a professor it’s his profession to break information down. He’s amazing at it. I enjoy other therapist and truly believe we all come into the profession with the passion and empathy to help others.
❤ please be kind. 🙏🏼 thank you for all the likes. 😅
Well said!!!! ❤
Live and let live. I decided years back that I had no energy to be invested in any relationship that didn't involve me. First, Lucy and Desi divorced and then Sonny and Cher and that one hit hard. I realized, I was in some fantasy where people stay together and that is not always the case. Lesson learned. 😊😅
Oh you must be older. I LOVE reading from older people on the internet. It’s very comforting to know the elders wisdom can still be found here and there
@@jakestroll6518 That I am and so grateful to be. Thank you very much, we learn from each other. Have a blessed day 💕🌷💕
Yeah, it can hurt, but we don't have ownership over their lives.
Thank you for addressing the way Jada speaks. Both Jada and Will speak in such a metaphorical, elusive, abstract, symbolical way it's hard to understand what actually they mean, what they are talking about, and what they are referring to. I thought I was the only one getting frustrated at that way of communicating they have!!!
Im not. Thats new age talk lol. Thats how we talk lol.
It's the kind of way people speak when they want to seem enlightened and deep but are actually doing something else. One of my friends talks this way and its how he hides being very controlling and in denial of his issues. Other people do it to obfuscate the truth because they don't want to fess up to what's actually going on. The questions here are relatively simple. Are you divorced? Are you considering divorce ? Are you in a polyamourous relationship, even a polyamourous marriage, or are you actually a separated monogamous couple? Where you separated but you're now coming back together ? All the above are okay and perfectly normal considerations, especially for a non-monogamous relationship but the way she's talking perposefully seems confusing. It seems to me like she wants one thing, Will wants something completely different, so to square the circle they just get lost in their own pseudo-deep bla bla.
In other words, word salad. 🥗
I've done 17 ceremonies with dmt, under the care of a Peruvian shaman, (dmt is the active ingredient in Ayahuasca) my life changed for the better since then I was suicidal my whole life, and now I can't even think about it. but its SO important that plant medicine is treated with respect, and used the way its been being used for thousands of years and respected.
I'm glad!
Did you do the ceremonies in South America or in the states?
What do you mean treated with respect? How is it meant to be used?
Sounds like separated with no intention to divorce
They should be allowed to define their relationship however they want… just seems like there are many inconsistencies that could be seen as self serving to escape any responsibility for the relationship itself
Which is fine but she constantly lies about what’s going on. And she is mean to Will.
@@Mama_Bear524 totally agree that she mistreats Will… I don’t think she owes us the truth though, just as we don’t have to give her (and Will) attention… they’re only accountable to each other in their relationship
I tried to watch a few episode of the red table talk show and I felt like I was crawling out of my skin each time. I never liked her vibe. I like people who are self deprecating, humble, and don’t need to be the center of attention. I don’t think she’s my cup of tea. And why did she decide that we are calling it an entanglement?? She has a strange way of using language to seemingly shift things.
My perspective is that Jada is sharing a lot of very intimate and personal details about her relationship with Will, and Will is not seemingly participating or possibly consenting to it. I don't feel good about that.
This aligns with the viral video of “angry Will” she took of him - if you haven’t seen it, he gets very angry because he’s specifically asked her not to record him in his own home. Poor man can’t even relax for a minute with this bish.
This is my only issue with her. I think Will wants to be mated for life and hopes they one day return to each other. And because of that, he’s decided (and literally stated in a past interview) that he has no deal breakers. “There’s nothing she could do that would make me leave Jada”.
Will seems to have noped out and gone to a cabin in a remote location, about as far from her as he could get
will has been VERY supportive of her book tour, recently surprising her I'm Baltimore as she visited her old high school. and I've read quotes where he talked about how he was so impressed when he read her book and said he should have hugged her more...
@@laurahouser2350oh thank you for the correction there! I had seen things saying he’d gone off grid but looking at his video it was maybe a bit of a joke! I hadn’t heard anything else about him. Man, he really loves her!
The only thing is... nobody asked for all her business... she came on her red table talk and announced that she was in an entanglement. She had fallen off the radar after the Slap, and here she comes again with the "revelation" that she and Will have been separated. She wrote an entire book putting forth her business. I would be very happy to be removed from her group chat or text chain or whatever.
Not the group chat! I'm dying! Same same same!
Actually ppl did. August wrote and recorded a song about his relationship with her. Folks began to ask about it and his name was trending on twitter. Jada didn’t just volunteer this info out of the blue.
@josina5302 not really... I left th video early. I always stop by to see what Kirk is talking about, though.😁
Honey you don't owe Jada's throwaway account any explanation.@@lolad7115
This isn’t the full truth. She never said anything until August exposed her and then she went on the RTT to clear the air. I don’t understand why you guys ignore key information
My theory is they don’t want to get divorced because they don’t have a prenup. It would be a mess. So they’re trying to figure out how to stay in the public’s good graces without having to be together. I don’t feel like she’s telling the entire truth and honestly I don’t know why she thinks we care about so many private details.
She thinks we care because she’s a narcissist
My theory is they both come from dysfunctional families/backgrounds where divorcing is, in their eyes, fully becoming like the families they never wanted to become. As long as they stay married they feel like they’ve left that past behind.
People without prenups get divorced every day. Most people don’t have prenups. This relationship is so weird. It’s like Will is under her spell.
@@AnnBertholf Yeah but most of us don’t have hundreds of millions of dollars in assets to wrangle.
@@Mama_Bear524someone in Dr Honda’s comment section diagnosing a stranger with narcissism?? I thought we were better than this
I just don't understand why she has to talk about the relationship at all at this point. I get that she and her husband are very public figures but every time I hear either of them talking about their private relationship, I can't help but feel bad for their children. Just a sad situation all around and I hope that they're both in therapy.
Will is public. We all forget she exists until she comes up with some new story about their relationship, so she can be talked about and remembered. And it works.
Nobody gives AF about her.
Did you have the same reaction when Will was on his book tour a year ago? Why is she being made the villain for sharing when he did the same thing and revealed some of the same things already.
@@sugarwaterpurple5280 Yes, that's why I said "every time I hear either of them talking about their private relationship."
I just saw a headline that was a bout Meryl Streep. She and her longtime husband have been separated for years. Seemed to imply that it wasn't public knowledge. Think of how many celebs we know nothing about their private lives. The Smith family makes money off being public . Look at their kids' lives.
Because she has nothing else going for her. She has no acting career anymore. She only gets talked about when she gossips about her husband or other men she’s slept with (Tupac, her son’s friend, etc). Her “Red Table Talk” series was the same as this book press tour: Using her husband’s fame so she can gossip about her love life and pretend she’s some highly sexually desired woman/ spiritual expert on relationships. (Spoiler: She’s not)
The Disneyland dad is exactly what my childhood was. I made my mom the villain and hated living w/her at 7yrs old. My dad moved to San Jose for work and they were both alcoholics…and both told me all their personal business and I saw all the fights w/her numerous men she had in our house. My dad would tell me all the women he cheated on his wife after and it messed up my morals at such a young age. Childhood was really lonely as I was ALWAYS alone and that made my shyness and anxiety come at 7yrs old.
That sucks, I’m sorry. I hope you were able to talk to somebody about all this as it really can affect your relationships in adulthood. Everyone has the right to work through their issues. Sending a huge hug your way ❤
I'm so sorry you went through all of that. Not your fault and you didn't deserve it. Take care of yourself now, do things that fulfill you and bring you joy. You deserve it.
You’re so brave for saying this. You deserve healing and all the best, dear ❤
All the best for you❤ im sorry for the things you went through😢
@@bobbicatt thank you so much! I have a therapist who understands thankfully
People aren’t mad at them for polyamory. They’re mad bc they had a very exhibitionistic “talk show” on Facebook where they worked thru their relationship issues-not a problem in itself-then on this book tour, she did a different interview on the Today show a few days before this one and “revealed” for the first time that she and Will had actually been split up since 2016. There was absolutely no lack of clarity about what she said. Bc of their Red Table Talk show, people felt very misled (bc they were).
She got a lot of blowback, of course, and so went back on the show a few days later and said that Hoda and the rest of the entire world had missed the entire point of what she was saying, which was that they had worked thru it some time back and are now back together.
Bc of their show, which was them airing out their problems and sort of showing people how to do this in a healthy way to stay together, blah blah blah, and there’s no telling how many younger couples were trying to follow their example, and it was a lie.
She is peddling a book. That’s why this is happening.
I wanted to thank you Dr. Kirk for appreciating the preschool teacher. I've been in the field for over 25 years, and we are very underappreciated by the government, etc.
Indeed.
My theory is that they went from a marriage to a situationship and they both intend to keep it that way. Especially her. Contrary to most people, I don’t have strong (good or bad) feelings towards her. I just think she seems to be a bit unstable, and to be fair so does Will. Hope they find something that works for them, but most of all, I hope they don’t screw up with their kids’ heads too much… I say this as someone whose parents stayed “together” for 30 years but with 2 or 3 separation attempts a year.
“Psychedelics *AND* lots of therapy” 😂😂😂 I know this is a serious topic but that moment cracked me up. It’s so true!!
Dr Kirk, you need to go back to the earlier interviews she did before this one with Huda - such as the interveiw she did with @thediaryofaceo She said alot of questionable things that resulted in her getting 1000s of comments of negative backlash online.
It is my beleief that based on that, she tweaked what she said in this particular interview and latter interviews to make her sound more palatable. For example, she said countless times her and Will are over and that she was shocked he called her his wife at the Oscars. She also claimed Tupac was her soulmate and all that stuff. However in latter interviews, she claims her and Will are working it out and that she was never romantic with Tupac.
Thank you for posting this. I sometimes feel that Dr.H needs a producer or researcher to pull content for him. He definitely needs to go back weeks or days to capture the timeline of interviews.
Ya Tupac never liked her like that. She’s still obsessed with him. It’s really unhinged (as is everything about her). They kissed once and it grossed him out 😂. He saw her like a sister.
She’s really not normal. I wish we’d all stop listening to her. I wish the media would stop reporting on her.
@@Mama_Bear524did Tupac tell you that? Let’s ask him about it
I’m not a fan of Jada but in regards to the title “Worthy”- black women have used big words to describe ourselves to push against racism and misogyny that is particular to black women. It’s almost a trap we try to navigate but it’s difficult so I understand her title choice even though it seems odd.
Black person here: that would make sense if the book were about racial issues/empowerment. But her press tour is all about her sexual escapades to the humiliation of her husband and kids. It’s a kiss-and-tell all from her Hollywood hookups. NOT a sociological examination of the black woman experience-no matter what flowery spiritual language she uses. let’s be real.
The title is not odd at all! She’s clearly telegraphing that the book is about her journey to FEELING worthy. I didn’t have to be black or a woman or even straight to see what she’s saying. Just because people present as self-confident doesn’t mean they actually are.
White chick here. I like the word worthy. No-one is a second hand citizen and should never have to feel like one. No such thing as a second hand human unless you're a psycho everyone deserves to be respected. Other than that can't stand jada. I got her number in the 90s. Beautiful woman but her behavior is annoying. If she didn't have will no-one would watch red table or buy a book of all her wisdom. Its a joke. She needs therapy. Not giving it.
White chick again. I forgot to say no matter what color people will treat you differently by the way you look. Like if you're wearing Gucci or Payless. Rich people look down on others all the time. I've felt like that second hand human that doesn't count so many times. I forgot to add that I have had problems with being worthy. That I have worth as a human. It's hard to keep reminding myself for that. Working 3 jobs and charity time for others and I can still feel like I am no-one on the planet.
@@lorig7077 Well written. You are worthy, friend. Sounds like you work hard and take care of a lot of people. Respect ❤️
Okay so Jada and Will have both said they agreed to be life partners regardless of if they are "romantic" with each other. They consider themselves and kids a unit. I think shes been consistent in saying that. They will never divorce because they are life partners but that doesn't mean they are intimate in that way. It's very unconventional and hard for people to accept that they BOTH agreed to this but Wills been clear that hes on yhe same page. Will is not a victim here
Oh please, will look MISERABLE
“Keep my wife’s name out your mf mouth!!”
“I was surprised he called me his wife bc we haven’t been together in years”
You: Will has been clear they are on the same page
Me: Ummmm……
@@jaxsmith1204 I don't see your point. Will has said numerous times he supports her. Will has said that they are life partners as well. Obviously there is still love there even if not romantic. Maybe behind the scenes he doesn't use that term so she was surprised to hear it. Are you one of the ones that also think Jada magically made Will slap dude lol
@@jaxsmith1204 I think part of the problem is people still keep looking at that situation as a traditional marriage. Y'all can't get past the terms. Also Will is very image conscious and a perfectionist. He likes this picture of big happy family. Honestly I believe that's why they haven't just been all the way transparent and direct publicly
I agree with you!
I wish patreons had access to the member videos 😭
So Will Smith sabotaged his reputation for Jada and they were separated? Oh, Will. 😢
Point is, exactly, they can do whatever they want, and they should have their space and privacy, problem is they kept making us part of it all. In my case, I even started watching the red table, keep going back and forth, but all the lies, inconsistencies and actually a lack of apparent empathy (at least in the way she expresses herself) for Will Smith, makes me now not even know what's up or down between them. I don't know... after all that has happened, I'm just sad for their kids. They - "the adults", are too messy, too inconsistent, and they have the means to seek therapy and counseling, and it seems they don't and keep making a mess out of everything.
I relate to what you said about the way she communicates and how it is obscured and difficult to understand. I actually have been working on this with my husband, he and I communicate in different ways and he would probably describe listening to me in the same way that you described listening to Jada.
I am trying to be more clear in my communication, but some topics I find very not concrete and not easy to narrow down to spoken word. Which leads me, at times, to wanting to talk about something, but not having clarity on how to share it with others. How I have been working on this is speaking less. I realized that I would sometimes talk out of feeling pressure to contribute to the conversation, when really it would be better for me to listen until I can share in a meaningful way, at a time that makes sense.
I was waiting for thissss reaction, thanks Dr. Kirk!
She's saying they've been separated for years but never wanted to get a legal divorce. However, more recently they've grown closer and are now working on their relationship. They seem to have argeed to a life partnership no matter what so no matter how hard things get they will not get a legal divorce. I think she doesn't like using their marriage so she avoids it and ends up talking around it.
Bless you for trying to understand her but I honestly think she’s blowing hot air. They already established that they don’t regard each other as husband and wife, but they are in a “life partnership.” All her book did was give truth to what that “life partnership” was. But then she wants to gaslight Robin into thinking she missed a point; that they’re getting back on good terms and which should mean, getting back to referring to each other as husband and wife, a.k.a. marriage. Yet when Robin used the proper terminology she still wants to correct Robin, talking about “life partnership”. But baby, that’s what you’re already in then! According to you! For someone that’s so scared of the label she’s trying really hard to hold onto it. Either Jada is confused or Jada is confused 😒. I don’t know how recent this interview was but clearly she spilled too much of the beans and she’s trying to clean it back up. Agents probably let them know they’re still more marketable as a couple who engages in polyamory than two separate people, married in name only, who’ve been lying by omission to the public this whole time… but everyone loves a good reconciliation 😀. I’m not buying it.
@@Bree5three I didn't actually watch her interview with Robin or any other interview she's done on the news because they break things down into clips and you lose context and nuance. I've been listening to her promote her book on podcasts and that gives me more information to work with. I don't think Jada is confused. She's just unconventional. She doesn't believe in the construct of marriage the same way most people do, so she I don't think she really wants to use that word to define their relationship at all.
@@chikai.3866 Okay so I'm going to try it one more time. You're saying all she meant was before we were two unhappy people, that wanted to pursue other people but refused to get a divorce, and now we're two healing people, coming back together, but wanting to keep an open marriage? If that's the case clearly there is a term for that and she's either mistakenly or purposely confounding people because she wants to make up her own. She can never be direct. But alright.
Ok this guy is another level, so clever.
She uses millions of words and says nothing.
If she didn't had a show, with the premise to say, she's honest, all the time... And now says they have lied for 13 years... It wouldn't be a problem... Don't piss on me, and tell me its rain...
Exactly
THANK GOD! I’ve been hoping you’d put this out
Interviewer - "I feel like you're a straight talker"
Jada - "I am"
Interviewer - "except sometimes you're not"
Jada - "yeah"
Me - "????????????"
Maybe trying to Jada to be more straight talking?
why dont they just say they have a nonmonogamous arrangement and that’s it?
Because Tupac, that’s why 😂
@@Eriko-cy7iywhat about Tupac? Do your research before you talk. She says they were never romantically involved, even the one time they tried to kiss, they were both disgusted cos it was like kissing a sibling.
8:21 Is exactly what Will & Jada's relationship is - they have non-conventional/non-monogamous relationship. They faced some difficult times in their bonds bc of traditional, conventional thinking around marriage, which affected their bond. Bc of that, they decided to separate so as to explore themselves as individuals & show up better in their union. Did their exploration of self involve other lovers, sure, but that didn't stop them from wanting to be married to one another.
Dr. Honda, I would love for you to do research on Jada's story bc it's one filled w/ trauma. She was born & raised in Baltimore with parents who were addicts, & bc of that, she sold drugs & experienced more hardships before & during her fame. Her life is way more than her relationship w/ Will.
Exactly! He has to take the public's opinions of her with a grain of salt because a lot of people judge her because they take things out of context
yeah it's kind of hard to watch this when he knows so little about her and her past. she struggles with codependency as the child of two addicts. her mother was also a teen mom. If Dr Honda wants to understand her a bit better, her recent interview with Jay Shetty is way more in depth and she seems a lot more comfortable communicating because Jay is actually her (and will's) friend.
I been waiting for you to upload!!!
22:18 I think that if the schema described in that section is the case for Jada Pinkett Smith (or anyone, for that matter) then whoever bears it is a very unfortunate person. Imagine what you must have had to undergo as a toddler or young, young child to be partially stuck at that age- and to be wholly self-reliant and not worry for anyone but yourself.
Also, it must be very, very lonely. There is no greater loneliness than being surrounded by people but being unable to connect with any of them through any means of empathy or even through communication.
The second schema discussed is also a rough one. Whatever the case is, they're both rather sad ones.
Thanks for all your hard work, Dr. Honda!
My parents have been separated but not divorced for 13 years. And theyre fine with it... they dont want a divorce, they dont wanna date, but they dont wanna live with each other or even talk that much lol. So that part at least isnt too weird.
She's "lying" (or at the very least being misleading) about the alopecia, that's for sure.
So, it doesn't look like she has it?
@@CatrionaCharles no, she didn't look like it even at the Oscars. She clearly had hair growing in. I have no idea why people ever believed her. Alopecia is just a general term for hair loss (any kind of hair loss) and she's clearly using it in misleading ways.
I think I'm in the minority of people who really don't understand the outrage. They were married, then separed for a number of years where each party "did their own thing" which they didn't have to tell us about. Now it sounds like they're working on getting back together. Why are we so upset?
I am right there with you
I Love Jada and I'm glad she's being open - we can all learn from her shared experience. I can't wait to read her book. it's silly to pretend that folks are fed up with Jada and Will's story when it generates clicks for every video or blog posted. if people were so fed-up, then there would be no engagement by the silly masses.
EXACTLY. I keep seeing people say they don't care however, she's driving up the blogs views. People do care
I think you hit the nail on the head @22:35 about her communication, or lack thereof due to trauma. When I did watch the show (I stopped after the entanglement episode and started watching Gloria Estefans red table), both her and her mom opened up about her childhood. Her mom was a massive drug addict and there was a lot of physical and emotional abuse that came with that. It just irks me how she has all the opportunities in the world to go to therapy and learn how to cope but she seems to refuse to. The show didn’t work, this book won’t, her embarrassing not only Will but herself isn’t working either. She knows she’s toxic and she openly admits it, and I truly think that’s what bothers a lot of people. She’s dishonest and generally a toxic person.
Ah, thanks. I was wondering about that hypothesis.
@@PsychologyInSeattle You're very welcome, Dr. Honda. When I was watching this, I was wondering if you knew or heard about it. I figured that it should be mentioned, due to trauma shaping us as people.
I would recommend the jay shetty interview or the diary of a ceo - both give a lot more context and go in depth with her struggles with mental health and her resentment in the marriage.
The amount of mental gymnastics and random conclusions being made to frame Jada as a villain is astounding. The ability to completely disregard her experience to chalk it up to “she’s just evil” is outrageous . There's definitely dynamics around her being a black woman at play here because the sheer inability to consider that anything she says may be true is wild. La loya guys.
The entire discourse is so infuriating and really just highlights to me how little people understand or have the patience to try and understand black family dynamics. There is nothing evil or confusing about anything she’s said.
So glad I’m a YT Member 🎉😊 thanks for the content Dr H
Thanks for being a member!
Love seeing you hanging out with the Dear Shandy team ❤
Punished for speaking my mind. Not at all self absorbed, but self cautious and using quietness/shyness as a Protector factor/mask to lessen conflict. As I got older, it hindered my communication and cognition. I maybe undiagnosed and on spectrum? I can’t maintain friendships. To others I may be secretive and a liar...
That's what it is! For years ppl have told me that years I am off putting but when they got to know me I was so nice. The downside of understanding that I am more than enough.
If you’re actually an honest person, you don’t go around yelling constantly about how honest you are.
She has said and done some cringey things, but it seemed like she and Will both have had an open marriage (I remember when he was doing his book tour he referred to his side relationships/attractions) but the media/general public opinion seem set on making her a manipulative mastermind who is controlling everything. Is she controlling? Probably, but we can't really know a couple's personal life. Will is a grown person and seems to have autonomy over his decisions. And Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo lived in separate but connected houses and had separate romantic relationships, but were together most of their lives. Their relationship arrangement seems messy but not something that hasn't been done before.
Having a relationship with her son's friend seems problematic because he was her son's friend and under 25, but people have relationships with their adult kids friends. It gives me the ick and I would never do that, but I don't know why that's anyone's business outside of her family and August.
Except she told the entire world about it...
My dad killed himself…I always wondered how I would approach the topic of his death to my children. This helps. I think it’s best to wait until they are adults to mention it, or at the very least older teenagers…not sure what to tell them in the mean time though.
I’m so sorry. Ya that’s really hard to navigate for sure. I’d agree to wait until they’re older. My mom died 9 years ago and I honestly don’t even remember what words I said to my kids. It’s so odd. No memory. Obviously I told them but how? What did I say? My kids were 9, 5 and 2. Don’t feel bad. At least you’re conscious of it.
Sorry for your loss. 🎉🎉🎉
@@Mama_Bear524yeah my oldest is only 2.5 but he knows my dad is in heaven. As he gets older, I know he’s going to ask more like “why” and “how”. I think I’m going to have to lie, which disgusts me, but idk how else to do it.
The impression that I get from a distance is that Jada is calling the shots on the relationship being open, Will did not want that and still has not come to terms with the 'entanglement'. Not a fan of either of them, overall I think Will is something of a victim here and struggles emotionally with it, hence the Chris Rock incident (which was not acceptable despite the circumstances).
I did Ayahuasca a year ago and it completely changed my life. IT IS NOT for everyone I did have bad anxiety from it for months but now that my nervous system has calm down I can say it was the best decision for me. Absolutely I believe if someone has suicidal tendencies (it wasn’t my case) but in this case I would recommend it. ✨❤️
Whenever I watch Jada Pinkett Smith speak, I feel like I'm watching a very bad actor in a very bad play who is always too friendly, too happy, too angry, too sad, or too fearful. I think this is partly because of the work she's had done on her face - she talks frankly with her mouth about really emotional things but her face is having a failure to communicate. She just comes off as a huge phoney who used Will Smith (AND Tupac - and I'm sure we will be hearing about others) for clout and fame. Why didn't she want people to know about her and Will splitting up? Because she's nothing without him, and part of her realized the public would blame her.
You hit the nail on the head
Basically
Truth 🙌
Complaining about her plastic surgery when she works in an industry that forces women to meet unrealistic beauty standards is sexist. There are legitimate reasons to dislike her, but "she's had plastic surgery and doesn't elicit emotion like I think she should, therefore fake and uses romantic partners for clout" isn't logical or fair.
@@ExtraordinaryMachine333 It’s not that she’s had work done. It’s that she’s botched. It does add to her uncanny-ness, let’s be honest. It’s unsettling to look at, and that combined with her weird lies does make her come across particularly creepy. And also that she tries to play her brow lift scar off as “alopecia”. So she lies about the surgery too, so it does make her less trustworthy.
I'm no psychologist, but I feel that Will carries illogical guilt because of his father. Like you said, he might feel like he deserves to be treated this way and not have happiness. It makes me so sad for him. I just want him and his family to have happiness and be treated well.
Yeah, it seems possible.
She’s just a full on narcisstic person and a good actress. She doesn’t love will anymore but didn’t leave. Some people kill, some people gaslight, some people just properly divorce
I'm with you. She needs to be alerted that they haven't been working on their relationship. Remember Jada
Can patrons not access the full video?
"I'm married and that's fine. I feel fine about that."
Taken out of context that could sound really bad 😂😂😂
Glad to reviewed thsi vid, I've been hoping you would review episode of her show "Re Tabel TalK". Good episode are any of the ones she does with her daughter and mother and the one with Demi Moore is another good one.
Love your Videos 🎉🎉
Wait, the rest is for UA-cam members but not Patreons?
Jada trying to make her look good while emasculating Will and lying about their relationship is not a good thing.
Her Red Table Talk was great and now I question everything.
I wish them well but I don’t feel like being lied to. Nobody likes being trolled and scammed at the same time. 😢
Not many disliked Jada before these interviews but when she did the Red Table Talk about her “entanglements” she lost a lot of our understanding. I don’t understand what she’s talking about nowadays. I think she thinks being salacious as possible will sell more books, but I find her interviews repulsive.
Every single time I watch a male analyst or therapist analyze Jada without fail they say that they don’t understand what she means. However, when I hear her speak I understand exactly what she means. I truly believe that cultural differences and upbringings can be a block to really being able to communicate with, analyze or understand each other.
20:30
“I think just not being ready yet…between the two of us.”
Translation:
They weren’t ready to talk about where they were as a couple. She was ready but Will was not ready. She was waiting for Will so that when they presented what they were they would be on the same page.
“Trying to figure out how to be in partnership.”
Translation:
They were trying to figure out how to work as a team and how to show people that they were still a team even though things were different. They hadn’t figured out yet how to explain their newly remodeled relationship so they just kept on presenting the old relationship.
It’s truly perplexing when people say they don’t understand her.
This is none of the public’s business, however, Jada made it the public’s business by triangulating everyone into her relationship with all this Red Table Talk, books, interviews. That’s one way to stay relevant in pop culture! Crazy mindset.
It’s such a euphemism to call what she did an entanglement when what she did was cheating on her husband
Ayahuasca did help me a lot to cure my depression. I did one ceremony that felt like 3 years of therapy. You still need to heal afterward for months and it's really not for everyone. But it contributed a lot
I think they’re both being dishonest. Will write a book mentioning cheating on her during both her pregnancies then forced her to marry him while still being pregnant knowing her family history where she didn’t believe in marriage she made it clear that she was traumatised by family units. He then also pushed his daughter to suicidal ideation as she was only 7-9years old. Yet jada has been humble enough to never speak on wills flaws
Jada continuously talks about the feelings she has for Tupac, how she cried when she was getting married to Will, how is any man can be enough for her when she measures them with the Tupac on a pedestal ruler?
I started watching this because I really appreciate Dr Honda’s insights but the. I realised I don’t actually care so I went and did something more productive for me instead 😂
Everything I know about this woman and her marriage is against my will.
I’m interested in this, been seeing some comments on YT vids lately and haven’t had time to look into it.
Ayahuasca is a perspective shifter. I used to take mushrooms all the time in my '20s and I was the happiest I ever been. Until I hit my thirties and went through horrible depression I was depressed for a good 6 years starting on my 30th birthday. I'm 40 now and I'm hoping that it's going to pan out to be better for me this next decade. But that's all that microdosing is it helps change your perspective on life. It's not exactly the drug that is doing it it's just having this experience that you've never had before that changes your life or shifts your perspective on life. That's my opinion.
The thing is, this reeks of, a meeting that couldve been an email that also couldve been a sticky note on a bulletinboard in the break room. Shes making a statement about being separated that contradicts previous statements, and then her clarifications are even more confusing. Then shes shocked when people are confused and are trying to get clarity. Its attention seeking behavior. By being unclear you stay in the headlines longer because it takes time for people to speculate.
You probably listen to her interview on Jay Shettys podcast or her interview Dax Shepard's Armchair Expert Podcast for more context. She goes a lot deeper into her childhood and her relationship dynamic with Will.
I read in Wired recently that even with the research they’re doing with psychedelics, now that they’re doing “blind testing,” most people have no noticeable positive outcomes.
They’re wondering if it’s been a lot of the placebo effect.
Oh, and the “blind testing” that they’re doing sounds WILD, but everyone going into it agrees to it up front. You know, for ethical reasons! 😅
17:37 You said that perfectly. The public wants their favorite actors to have good marriages so that is what they present. When it’s not great, explaining what’s not great about it is difficult and really no one’s business.
It’s called “answering the question without answering the question”. It’s maddening
I don't care about this Jada/Will nonsense, but I'd watch your commentary on anything haha
The way she speaks, her facial expressions and tone all point to hiding something or misleading. I could care less about her book or her life, i wonder how many books she will sell 🤔
15:13, 😂 I feel ya, Dr. Kirk!!!
@21:05 lol that’s funny I find myself doing the same thing! 😂
I’m as tired of hearing about their relationship as the next person, but so much of this hatred sits at the intersection of Jada’s position as a Black woman partnered with a wealthy Black man. I understand why she didn’t tell, it’s not difficult to grasp(if you’ve paid attention to their books etc.) The Black community placed them on a pedestal and are upset by the dynamic not being what is was. I wish they would leave us out of it, but some of the backlash is projection. Also people asked for an explanation after August revealed they’d been together. That’s where this initially dropped. Agreed on the abstract terms being misleading though.
Can you explain more about the topic of obscuring information as a protective technique? I am interested in learning more about how more lofty language can be an adaptation. Is there reading material on this?
Could we see the rest of this episode on Patreon?
I disagree that she’s just telling people what they want to hear by lying about the marriage - people actually want celebrities to fail. It’s a weird sociological dynamic, we want people who have everything brought down a peg. So, whether consciously or not- by lying, she’s actually elevating her status, looking down on others. Her evasiveness, manipulation, and constant word salads are mind blowing
7:20 Will and Jada had already been separated for several years before August started doing interviews about his relationship with Jada. She is on a book tour talking about things that happened several years ago. After Will slapped Chris that very night Jada decided that she was going to be there for her husband as his wife to stand with him in the storm that was about to come. The time between that slap and her book tour is one year. So for a year they have been working on getting back together and deciding on what their relationship going forward will be. There was never a legal divorce or legal (court documented) separation. Only a verbal separation and living separately. Will even said in his book that the goal was always to come back together as healthier people. Divorce for Will is not an option. And Jada promised she would never divorce him.
Of course I don’t know but I wouldn’t be surprised she could be diagnosed with npd.
I don’t get why everyone is so upset by this? Is she sharing a lot of info that we didn’t ask for? Sure. I solve that problem by changing the channel or I keep scrolling if I don’t want to engage. It’s really that simple. But one thing I do know is Will is not a victim in this situation. It has been rumored for yeeeeeaaarrrs in Hollywood that Will and Jada were swingers (allegedly). So nothing that they share is shocking to me. I think the general public is having a melt down because one of their favorite “couple goals” isn’t as perfect as we thought they were and now people are projecting. Folks also don’t want to place any blame on Will because we “like him more.” So, Jada is the scapegoat. She’s been the scapegoat ever since Will smacked Chris Rock…which he did of his own free will. Jada might be annoying but Will is more than welcome to walk away at any point. He chooses to stay. He recently told us, publicly, that he loves his wife and has no plans of going anywhere. With that, if they like it I love it. Also, Will has had a longtime girlfriend. They’ve cheated on each other and are choosing to work it out. It’s really not that deep. I only wish Jada would stop talking because I don’t think I’ll buy her book anymore. She’s telling us everything 😂 But, she has a right to tell her story. Just like Will told his in his book. Folks need to relax and stop stressing about other people’s relationships.
Thank you for this comment 👏🏾
In yet here you are, in this comment thread, worrying so much about Jada you wrote a whole book. The projection is real.
THANK YOU
Ugh. I remember going wassaay back. Twenty years or so and not being able to stand the two of them as a couple. The term “smug marrieds” comes to mind from Bridget Jones. None of this comes as a surprise. I think the slap was a part of this. Not that she “made” him do it. No excuse. But consistently keeping this big lie in such a high stress environment has got to mess you up
I WAS a fan of Will and it’s not like I hated Jada, but it’s not that I WANT to know what’s going on. It’s actually the opposite. I DO NOT want to know what’s going on bc it really has no effect on me or anyone around me, but it’s like a train wreck and I can’t look away.
I think she’s lying again. I don’t think they split.
"Is this a game they're playing?" Are my exact thoughts. Idk what's going on with Will and Jada because I haven't really paid attention over the years, but it just seems unnecessarily messy and I don't understand the point. What is their end goal? What are they hoping to achieve? I really feel bad for the kids. Is Jada doing this for attention? Something just seems really off about her vibe.
You have to take what the public says with a grain of salt because most people judge her based on info out of context
I don’t think it’s about parasocial relationships sometimes we just want clarity when listening to something. Like if I asked what happened during WW2 and someone says “It was the events that led to death” I’d be like um okay. But what exactly does that mean. The euphemistic and poetic language just gets annoying sometimes.
Is the additional content for the youtube members the same as for patreon members?
I heard someone say it seems like she’s cosplaying a therapist
You know what in my opinion, since they got married in 1997 Will Smith's career blew up He was so famous and Jada pinkett Smith was pretty famous until she married Will and her career didn't really do much. I think she's very bitter for that. And I think that's what leads to these Hollywood power couple divorces. Maybe you have one partner jealous of the other partners career. That's why I think she titled her book , worthy. I haven't read it I don't know if I want to waste an audiobook credit on it😂 is it worth the read? Or the listen? Please let me know :-)