Twin Flames #1 - Therapist Reacts
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
- Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to the documentary, Escaping Twin Flames.
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OMG guys Kirk’s head is actually going to explode when he gets to the gender issues. Thoughts and prayers.
I second this, thoughts and prayers for Dr. Honda lol his reactions are going to be very interesting
😂 I was thinking the same thing.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ivannarandall2102it got SOO WTF progressively. 😅
I've watched the whole thing and this poor man has no idea what's coming
Dr Honda going thru the mirror exercise with his cable provider is literally the highlight of my week 😭
😂😂😂
I'm cackling 😂
Just left a similar comment 😂
Lmaooo
Ha!
Dr. Kirk using the cable company as his mirror exercise example 😂
Dr. Kirk trying the mirror exercise with Xfinity is pure gold
This series was so wild! Every time I thought it couldn’t get worse it did! So excited you’re reacting to it! :)
You obviously haven't seen the Love has won documentary them.
He just needed to complain about his cable company and honestly I’m here for it
I am overjoyed you are talking about dating and the issues surrounding that! It is a section of life that is frequently ignored and lots of dumb advice that isnt helpful. Im not a psychologist or therapist but i chronicle my journey after being a widow for 9 years. I dont have answers or advice but it helps me sharing my downs and few ups
Bless You💛
Where do you chronicle your journey as a widow? My mom became a widow very unexpectedly, maybe she’d be interested in a blog about that.
Happy to see this! I’m burned out on reality TV, but love your take on things! Thanks!!🎉
He said "made a choice". I feel like this is a situation where they'll say whenever someone doesn't find their "twin flame", that they didn't _choose_ to do so.
After leaving religion behind, I realized organizations and charismatic leaders that have to try so hard to sound profound more than likely have the depth of a puddle.
Me too! I was in a high control religion and amazed at how gullible and desperate people are
THIS ‼️
I don't even understand how they got ANYONE to trust them. They look so sketchy and manipulative and evil😢
I watched the Netflix documentary. It’s amazing that they are still operating. 🥴
Oh they are?? :O
@@mistyday333 Yes. There’s an effort to shut them down but they’re still going.
Yes! While I was watching this I thought "what would be Dr. Honda's opinion on this?"
LETS GOOO. Dr Honda, I live one town away from Suttons Bay (where Jeff and Shaleia currently live) and when this came out people had no idea! It’s been quite the local topic
So glad you’re covering this! Watched it last night and have been talking about it all day! I got sucked into an earlier version of this system and took years to shake these beliefs
Dr. Kirk, no matter if I agree with you or not I want you to know I respect you, I'm thankful for you, and you're a fucking wonderful human. So glad you're making my city and my online space better! ❤
I know absolutely nothing about this documentary but I am very excited to watch it alongside you, Kirk! From episode one, I can tell that this mirroring exercise would be absolutely terrible for me. It would encourage my constant gut reactions to feel guilty and blame myself every time I start to be mad or frustrated with someone else, which is no good and I actively try to fight against daily! It's so frustrating to have a default reaction of believing myself to be in the wrong, or if I am hurt or let down in any way it is because I have failed and it would be rude to have any sort of emotional reaction directed at someone else. I understand that a degree of introspection or reframing in this way can be very helpful certain individuals, but this sort of practice would push me into depressive moods. I'm pissed off already that there were people in this community who were likely similar to me but with less awareness and experience in therapy to recognize how harmful it is for them.
Can't wait to see more from this documentary though 😭
Would have sent me to suicide as a young person. I had so much abuse as a child my inner voice belittling me is always a thing I fight with. To encourage it is tragic.
"I'm upset at these cult leaders and grifters who manipulate and take advantage of well-meaning but damaged people who are just trying to better themselves"... and now I'm turning it to me...like.. what?
This doc has been on my watchlist on Netflix for a while now, but somehow haven't gotten into it yet. Now i definitely have to watch it tonight, can't wait for your commentary!
It’s super watchable! Good for a nights binge
It’s really good. I ended up watching both documentaries.
I watched the amazon one this weekend because I saw it was one of the proposals for a reaction. Really glad he is covering this!
Same. Planning on watching it tonight!
I watched the Amazon and Netflix one! They’re both very informative
I watched the TF series can't believe Doc's reaction vids didn't show up in my feed until episode 15! But, now I get to binge. 😁
I always cringe when the Better Health sponsor read comes on, considering all the shady stuff they’ve been found to be engaged in and how many people have been harmed by that service. I wish people would stop shilling for them.
I’m so happy you’re reviewing this!! I can’t wait to hear your thoughts, this documentary was a worldwind
When you defeat the "mirror exercise" because you cannot be precise, haha! I definitely felt uncomfy with how it was described. Oh, so everything is my fault is what this boils down to? Got it. Heard that one before from certain... groups.
Ooooooh i voted for this!!! Im so excited! The tenents seem to go against any practices for a positive relationship!
I just finished watching this one this past weekend! Looking forward to your take on it. It was wild, like most of these docs on cults are. However, I will say this one shocked me where in ended up leading too.
My heart always hurts for the members, I even cried watching the last episode during the apology meet up.
I did appreciate how the experiencing of moral injury was discussed and the experience of victims becoming perpetrators themselves was covered.
Thank you for highlighting that anyone who can sell you absolutes are lying.
YES! Been wanting to see this reaction since I watched the series!
"It's interesting that we have our first Zoom facilitated cult". Tell me you haven't been down UA-cam rabbit holes without telling me you haven't been down UA-cam rabbit holes 😁
You have no idea how happy I am that you are reacting to this documentary! I found it so disturbing and I need DKH clarity please 🙏
YYYEEESSSS!!!! THANK YOU, DR. HONDA!!!!
I’m so excited you reviewed this !
Omg I can't believe Dr. Honda's going to react to this documentary 😭 It was so hard to watch for me, good luck everyone 🙏
You did it! Thanks Dr. Honda!
Oh hell yes. This is what I've been waiting for
so excited that you're covering this, dr. honda! i watched the netflix documentary and it was so enlightening. i'm poised to start the amazon one to see if there's more individual stories represented by those previously in the cult. it was super wild to hear all the flip flopping in the dogma/philosophies of the cult by the leaders just cause it better suited their business model of obtaining more money and they wanted to keep controlling the group of people already enlisted in their twin flame program.
I feel you hit alot of points on how so many in society are lonely.
Your facts are amazing. Brilliant video.
Dr. Honda, you’re talking about research and approaches around finding a partner you’ve learned while working with clients. Have you shared it in the podcast? Cause it would be very useful
I agree!! I've be asking for an online dating deep dive for months now from Dr. Honda
He also have 3 videos called Dating Advice❤
Also a long video thst is called Scientific Matchmaking! Really good!!
Oooooohhhh! I’ve been waiting for this one!!
Lol "Zoom facilitated cult". Another Doc Honda classic terminology
Yes! So glad he is covering this
Love you Doc Honda!
Far out!! So glad that you are covering this!!
Yass!! I’m so happy you’re reviewing this show !!😀
Omg…I’ve been waiting for you to do videos on this.😊
Yesssss!!!!!!!! Thank you Dr K for covering this. I have missed you since LIB 😊 Yay
For anyone who isn't aware- there is an excellent podcast about TFU that came out last year. It's just called Twin Flames. It's so good.
They even interviewed the guy who got a restraining order against Elle. They use a pseudonym for her since she did not participate the podcast but it's definitely Elle. His story is VERY different from hers- not in terms of the events that occurred necessarily- but each of them paint very different pictures of how those events played out. It was fascinating when I listened to it a year ago and it's even more fascinating now with this extra context.
Yes!! By Wondery! It was awesome. I too was surprised but not by how different Elle’s account was to what is probably much more true.
Whats the Episode in the Podcast called?
@@Anna-ky4rw honey Badger of Love. Enjoy!
It definitely did flag up for me how quickly he seemed to resort to a restraining order, from her side of the story. I feel like there is definitely information missing and it sounds like the podcast you mentioned shines more light on it!
Of course that doesn’t necessarily mean his side of the story is completely true too (I am scarred by Lydia and Uche from LIB in case anyone else watched the doc’s reaction to it!)
Please please please do "Love Has Won" next! 🙏
So excited for this!!
Same🎉
I'm also upset at xfinity for not honoring the contract that I was approved for for low income internet and I spoke to three people two of whom lied to me and brushed me off.
Xfinity has the worst customer service.
Agreed! We have had issues with them on and off for years!
So I’m ashamed to say this but once an upon a time I was in the dating world from early 20’s til now (early 30’s. I’m not the best with confidence and I’m super shy in person,dating online was tough but also cool to speak to people and not have to meet right away.I unfortunately fell into the pits of psychics and readings one even scammed because I was “cursed” I was dumb to believe it! Not to say I don’t believe in the spiritual world but for no one should have to sell or promote something like this to give people help.
Don’t feel bad! It happens - I had a fortune teller tell me I was “cursed’ when I was in my 20s and a boyfriend broke up with me. she told me this was a deep curse but she could pray it away…for a sliding scale fee of course! She was like not sure how long it will take…Lol, I had no money so that saved me but when you’re young and vulnerable it’s easy to be taken advantage of by unscrupulous people.
@@annabellejohnson3549 ugh so terrible! Sorry you went through it! It was the same for me tbh and when you’re desperate it’s HARD! However I realized I can be a believer of things and I believe we’re all good on our own,course with improvements here and there.
I struggle with low self-esteem and tend to have big reactions when I'm faced with people talking in ways that are racist or sexist. It sucks, because I want to be able to feel the emotion without lashing out and causing more harm. I can work on my self esteem, but idk, just wanted to vent about how they can play into each other.
Thanks as always for the video - I watched the series last week and am excited to see more of your reactions to it
I feel you
The only time I've ever even heard the term twin flames was when Meghan fox talked about MGK
I just watched that last week. was hoping you'd do this.
The mirror exercise sounds like a way to force people into submission.
Thank you!
Not super relevant to the video but I just wanted to say thank you for everything you do Dr. Honda!
We NEED "Bad Surgeon" next for this world to be at peace.
I've been waiting for this one!!! 🙌
Hmm... Sound s little like Scientology where they have people believe that everything bad that happens, or everything that effects then negatively, is because of something they did or what they believe in. There is this ex Scientology member. I think his channel is called 'Dazed But not Confused.' His entire channel is about his leaving Scientology and how the cult ruined his family and are still in control of a lot of his family members. I think he used to be an actor, but I am not super familiar with all American actors. Anyway, he talks about how some people left the cult of Scientology to start their offshoot cults which apply some of the same methods as Scientology. By the way, if Dr Kirk did an interview or collab with this guy who left Scientology, that would be a great episode I think.
Just another life lesson for all who passed their doors. No mistakes. More growth!
This documentary was wild. I still can't figure out what makes people want to get involved in cults. I am skeptical of literally everything that everyone says to me, which seems like an issue in itself, haha, but I guess in this way it's a strength.
The real question is… were you able to unbundle cable and WiFi? 😂😂
No. Absolutely not. I'm planning on hunting down a mortar and brick office.
@@PsychologyInSeattle boooo 🫤 good luck!!🤞🏼
Play with the dogs. Always play with the dogs. 🥰
The mirror exercise reminds me of Byron Katie’s “The Work” method and the four inquiries.
1. Is this statement true?
2. Can I absolutely know that it’s true?
3. How do I feel/react when I believe this thought?
4. Who would I be without this thought?
And the last step I to “turn the thought around” - that’s what seems similar.
Yeah, is this useful/therapeutic in your experience?
I was given the Byron Katie exercise to do in a group therapy thing, and it was about a week after I’d watched the Netflix Twin Flames doc so I was like ‘hold up….wtf?’
@@dassijes5943 I’m glad you saw the similarity too! I dabbled with The Work a few years back and think it can be useful as a way of questioning one’s negative thoughts and ruminating. But I just couldn’t make it work for all situations and it felt like victim blaming, as Dr. Honda mentions.
This is perfect, my therapist just told me about the twin flame documentary 😂
This documentary is more wild that Wild Wild Country 😢 so sad
Is "Wild Wild Country" about the Bagwan Rajneesh group?
@@miriamhavard7621 yes that's the one
Now I gotta watch twin flames doc 🫢
No-one can promise to unite a person with their twin flame - it depends entirely on divine will.
TFU fits the wrong side of Steven Hassan’s BITE model influence continuum!
I hope you will continue with this series on regular UA-cam, and not the membership part.
Recently, it is happening more and more on this channel.
I ended up signing up for a time. Free or $5/month seems ridiculously inexpensive for what I learned.
Most of the therapists I’ve worked with haven’t been as experienced or as good a fit for me as Dr. Honda (although I have had some good ones).
I learned a lot and was inexpensive for me. I get that these creators need to get paid to keep doing what they are doing.
OMG I watched both. Was left so angered!
It was all so weird.
Shelia is giving me the creeps.
30 seconds in and I'm already sure this is a cult
Yeah I read about twin flames.. I had an old love interest try to pull this shit on me.. I can barely get on board with soul mates.. it’s all just so fucking absurd.. have you read the websites about twin flames.. it’s good for a laugh.. It’s just so crazy.. and they have things like the twin flame runner and all this crazy.. it’s totally just the most absurd shit.. it’s all feels very in the same thread as miss Cleo.. it gives me those kinds of vibes.. if that makes any sense.,
This comment sounds like it’s coming from an extremely judgemental, non spiritual and biased place. Which is to be expected if you barely can get on board with soulmates.
I can tell you that twin flames are 100% real. However, this twin flame universe stuff is garbage… same energy as an mlm. It is not what twin flame souls are about at all. Not everyone has a twin and not everyone is meant to be on that journey.
If you *complete the course* you will find your person....but the course is never complete!
You think that only reason for not finding that button is marketing? Do you have enough evidence for such conclusion? For me, it sounds like reasoning when people say, that psychologists are not interested in making solutions for clients , because then they will loose income.
it gets worse and worse after each episode
buckle up, buttercup.
LETS GOOOO
I has the same reaction 😂❤
I have to go and watch the documentary befor i listen to dr Honda. But it is very sad how this pleople were exploited and thwre are so many still in the cult.😢 and the law cant protect them.
do the new season of welcome to plathville
Lol, so you were meant to use mirror exercise on your POI (prsn of interest), love connection - for instance when they ghost you ignore you shun you block you lie to you etc, apparently they say you really are ignoring yourself and being clingy to poi to get their interest, you shunning yourself or ghosting yourself/not showing up for yourself, blocking yourself; from whatever areas of your life. Basically you’re abandoning yourself and when you feel their lack of presence, it means apparently you’re not showing up for yourself in some way and you need to, and that when you do finally show up for yourself (self-love, self respect, financial independence etc fixing those burdens) then you’re finally happy free, not pulling on poi energetically and apparently they sense this and return back to you wanting you back. That’s basically what the mirror exercise is. But I like your point about it being manipulation, because true love shouldn’t be conditional. If they hurt you, you’re allowed to feel hurt, sad and abandoned. They should still care enough to help you, love and support you instead of abandon you further and leave you to support yourself. As why would anyone give their best self to the very person who abandoned and hurt them. Saying I am mad at myself for rejecting myself is like dismissing how bad they treat you. Which is unacceptable.
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!😍😍😍
What kind of lost one must be to give credit to a dude like this
Are u referring to Dr Honda
Xfinity right now: 👁️👄👁️ 🪞
I never liked the vibe from these two. I had no idea they were selling books and doing courses, they showed up on my UA-cam and I just didn't believe in them they didn't seem real and sincere to me...now I see my intuition was spot on....the twin flame thing real or not does feel real if you have issues with connection, it locks you into the belief that one sided love is normal and eventually the other person will be with you when you do your inner work... We all need to do inner work and some of us more than others and millions of us have no help with it outside our own heads so this type of community of people is vast and preyed upon.... Now I gave up with it and have a new addiction of playing a game. There are thousands of lonely people on this mobile game and they're spending $1000s on micro transactions mental health issues shine bright egos among the spenders are insanely huge arguments hate and love for people they have never seen the face of is everywhere. I've never played a game like this I kind of hate it and enjoy it at the same time. Haha.
This is really evil. 😮
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Apparently Better Help is not a good company 😢
Does this mean no sister wives? I’m glad you are watching this but I thought sister wives and 1000 pound sisters got more upvotes than twin flames.
I know you're watching the series, so you'll see this, but one woman was actually told that abuse didn't exist.
To make a promice like that is very dangerous its about money and control yes its not going to work for everyone
1st these two are horrible and this was a hard watch. Max has Mother "God" which is just as bad . I feel bad for the people who they took advantage of.
I am sad that your discussion about how some things are outside of yourself. Like it’s not all “projection” or “victim mentality” honestly you need to make a debunking self help bromides. I laughed watching you twist yourself in a pretzel trying to make your anger at cable company work within this paradigm. Can you tell I’m mad at all the time I wasted listening to the recycled self-help industry making me over-responsible for things in my life?
Oof. I was really enjoying your commentary, but Better Help has been reported as being problematic for both therapists and patients. I'm disappointed to see them as one of your sponsors.
The mirror here would be that you are upset because you don’t allow yourself to be like this company which only has its own self interest in mind. You even call it greed, which for them is just self interest, self protection etc; it also didn’t make sense to me either but now it does and when I don’t like something it’s usually because I don’t allow myself to behave in certain way; which is a good thing I think, you stick to your principles; I hope that makes sense
It’s basically OPPOSITE to what they say here. Because it is opposite to victim blaming :) I think my version is better although it can give excuses but it fights e.g. with bullying and acts of I call it selfishness. E.g. men often criticize women that they are too emotional and the mirror say: well because you don’t allow yourself to be emotional, once you are aware of that you will not see women as emotional anymore as if it’s bad, and you will have more compassion. The problem is with abuse - yeah, you don’t allow yourself (nor even want!) to be abusive as some people but there is good, logical reason why. Because we all know hurting others is like hurting us. And we are one.
I love your videos but please better help is abhorrent. You should do a deep dive on them.
This is a cult like any other, why is it getting so much attention
Because many people fall for it.
You have to understand that the whole Twin Flame terminology is not limited to Jeff and Sheila, it is a whole belief created by new agers and many so called medium or tarot reader use it to scam people.
The more it gets exposed, the more it prevents people to get manipulated.