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Make video about Doom Eternal ships or weapons.
A bit basic these reviews these days...
What about the airships from the Hunger Games.
Wow, a massive project! It's almost as big as the UESC Marathon!
Love your videos man :) Would love if u did the Kraken II Submersible Pod from the movie Innerspace
Hudson: "Hey Vasqués. Have you ever been mistaken for a man?"
Vasquéz: "No... Have you?"
Vasquéz: I was a terminator once
Hicks: You wot m8?
One of the best lines ever!
Not too many times.
Drake: Oh Vasquez you’re just too bad!
One of my favorite movie lines ever. Aliens had the best lines all through it.
To think James Cameron designed this by kitbashing some airplane and Apache helicopter parts together along with some lumps of styrofoam- there's a good reason why it looks so believable as a sci-fi design.
And there was only one model with different markings on each side. You (mostly) saw each of the dropships from only one side in the movie.
REPRESENT!!
He Sure Did! From what I read He went to a Hobby Store and bought a Model Kit of a Vietnam Era U.S. Bell AH-1 Cobra Attack Helicopter & a U.S. F-4 Phantom 2 Fighter Bomber. Then He took a heat knife and went to work with the end result being Very Close to What We ALL Saw On Screen!
@@caryblock3605 That's how many of the sci fi props of that era were made. What became ILM bought thousands of kits to decorate the various models used in Star Wars. There is a photo of two of the guys attaching little pieces to the exterior of the Falcon model with a bookshelf of model kits nearby.
He was also heavily inspired by Thunderbird 2 from Thunderbirds. I got the chance to speak with one of the model makers once and he showed them a pic of Thunderbird 2.
I love the old timey VHS effects on this video. Very atmospheric.
I agree. The efects are excellent. I wanted to say the same thing.
Makes me want to rewatch this on a vintage VGA monitor!
Its still 2076 dude.
One thing I loved about Aliens was just how plausible everything was. All the tech and gear feels like they really could exist, and clearly are designed with a very military functionality over style.
Or at least the versions that made it into the movie were very grounded. Sid Mead, who did the concept and design work for Tron, also did a lot of concept work on Aliens and his designs were... shall we say more exotic, with the Sulaco originally being spherical in shape and the dropship would have been a rather Star Wars looking affair, with the APC detaching from its underside and the dropship having a spring up cannon-arm
I have seen real pulse rifle replicas that fire 55.6 and 223 on UA-cam. wish some one would buy the copyright and mass produce pulse rifles for the civilian market. IMAGINE having it for home defense in 9mm 55.6 223 and a 12 gauge 6 shot shotgun underneath. ULTIMATE BAD ASS FOR REAL
@@weldonwin Is there a link for all of those designs, or no?
@@TurnAGundam You find them with a quick Google image search, just type in Sid Mead Aliens Concept Art
@@weldonwin Thanks, I might do just that when I have the time.
"We're in the pipe. Five by five!"
I can definitely see the the inspiration the Cheyenne Dropship provided for the Pelican Dropship in Halo
Aye, Bungie was pretty up front about taking inspiration from sources like Aliens and Doom. The Pillar of Autumn doesn't look too much like the Sulaco, but the overall schtick is familiar. In the original graphics of Halo CE, check the bulletin board on the Bridge and you'll see a post saying, "LOST CALICO CAT, ANSWERS TO JONESY."
Tho imo the Pelican us a better dropship
@@TheParadoxGamer1
I thought that too.
They looked believable unlike this thing.... Those weapons pylons rotating out in flight are going to cause all sorts of handling problems.
UH,
...f'ing Imitators.
@@TheParadoxGamer1 lol
"Hey Ripley don't worry, I am the ultimate badass" Hudson
RIP Bill Paxton
Loved that in the special edition box set
Awesome fact about Mr. Paxton: apparently during filming, he apologized to Carrie Henn (who played Newt) between takes of almost every scene they shared, because he felt bad about the script having him curse and swear in front of her so much.
Game Over Man, Game Over!
Sharp sticks!
And my team of ultimate badasses are here to protect you
"...and somebody wake up Hicks!"
Still love how he fell asleep during something as extreme as an orbital drop... Like it ain't no thing.
@@DTSephiroth that was his Char, the grizzled veteran vs the Lt. First drop
@@wolfpreist Yeah, the entire thing (down to the personal markings on the armor, lingo, ect) was a Vietnam allegory, which was REALLY popular in the 80's. It was supposed to represent the hardened veteran NCO who knows better, fights better, and is universally respected by the men being dragged into a situation THEY could have avoided by a Lieutenant whose "experience" is book reading. Unfortunately the draft coupled with an unforgivably bad (and rushed) Officer training program during Vietnam made this scenario very very common.
@@dekardkain5469 then the whole a far less sophisticatedly armed force taking out a far superiorly armed force. Even the drops hip design was meant to evoke the Huey.
@@dekardkain5469 The draft had nothing to do with it. I served well after the draft ended and there was one constant everywhere I served. The O-1's were useless and didn't know it.
I came very near criminal charges of assault and battery of a commissioned officer when a particularly useless butter bar powered on a red tagged radar, while I was physically inside it doing a repair. That meant I had seconds to get out of the box while 300V DC wires went live around me.
The services take kids right out of college and tell them they're "leaders" after a 12, IIRC, week school. That of course goes exactly and precisely how you'd expect.
Add to that that the Navy, and perhaps the other branches, forbids assigning junior officers to fields in which they have a degree. So on my last ship we got a batch of fresh Ensigns and one was a EE. He of course was sent to deck division and we got a guy who was, IIRC, a history major.
11/10 on the production value here lads. Perfect replication of the tone, the sounds, the look and feel of 80s era sci-fi.
We’re in the pipe five by five
I love clicking on the dropship in Starcraft just to hear that.
All the orginal starcraft. "We're in for some chop"
.....sniff,
Memories!!
"Express elevator to Hell! Going down!" - Pvt. Hudson
If only he knew.
Hudson was a corporal.
WWWOOOOO!!
@@theycallmespoons Hicks was the Corporal, Hudson was a Private First Class.
@@birgirbirgisson5901 I stand corrected.
The first dropship I ever saw and without a doubt my all-time favorite. Bug Stompers!
REPRESENT!!
I would LOVE to see a breakdown about the Predator Yautja ships, especially the -mother- clanship! o_o
Dutch Van Der Linde That would be interesting, though I honestly prefer the term “clan ship.” Gives it an additional yautja feel.
CLASSIFIED
@@LordCommander-ui2fw Ah yes, right, the clanship...
seth Thomas Very true. Though we do have some speculation that the quarters of a clanship are arranged based on the level of prestige a hunter possesses. Unblooded trainees and young bloods who have yet to accomplish great deeds lodge together in sleeping pits, where they all eat, sleep and train together. And as one might expect from groups of adolescent warrior aliens, it’s on these areas of the ship where the most fighting takes place. The experienced and/or renowned hunters have the right to their own private quarters, especially if they have claimed the head of a Xenomorph queen. They also have the right to use individual ships for private hunts, unlike the other Blooded Yautja who have to take larger ships as part of a group, or with the entire clan. The Elder of a clan has the most stately rooms on the ship, as well as control over the vessel on the whole as one might expect .
Just have some faith, Dutch
I always liked the UD-4 dropship, we tend to forget troop transports when taking ships and aircraft but the UD-4 was very well thought out like everything in Aliens....
I like the effects, good stuff :]
I think that we CAN make a real Cheyenne drop ship. Look at the concept art for the V44 tilt rotor. It never got farther than the drawing board but it was just MASSIVE and could easily swallow one or two Strykers converted into troop carriers. With 9 per vehicle, it should be able to very quickly drop 18 fully equipped troops into the field hundreds of miles from base. I think realistically, it might do about 200-250 mph assuming a 50% payload. I cannot vouch for the payload as it's a concept but I would think its maximum takeoff weight would be far beyond 100,000 lbs with quad engines. It would definitely need at least 4-bladed props for maximum lifting power as it would truly be a monster compared to the V22. The standard V22 uses triple-bladed props currently. Again this is all theoretical, since the V44 never got off the drawing board.
Here are some fun facts. The actual studio prop of this ship was actually built from decommissioned military aircrafts. Also, the guy who designed the dropship was a Thunderbirds fan and considered it his take on TB2. He would then go on to design craft for the new Captain Scarlet series, such as the Albatross transport craft.
I always thought the UD4 was what would happen if Thunderbird 2 and a Space 1999 Eagle had a baby and the kid went into the marines. Heh. :D 😀
'Built from' is pushing it. The landing gear, crew seats and some minor components are from Avro Vulcan bombers, but the actual structure was scratch-built. First I've heard of the Thunderbirds claim - what designer are you talking about? Ron Cobb penned the dropship based on a design from Cameron.
@@skepticalbadger The part about it being built from airplane parts I learnt from watching the Aliens documentary dvd disc from the Quadrilogy box set. Though they just said they 'built' it and not much more. The APC got more exposition.
As for the Thunderbirds bit, I read about it in an issue of SFX when they did an article on the New Captain Scarlet series and listed all the vehicles.
"Oh, I know what the ladies like" - Sargent Apone.
That cigar eating maniac
You mean Sargent Avery Johnson ;)
@@skepticalmagos_101 then apone was the one gathered the ammo clips right?
"When i joined the Corp we didn't have no fancy-schmanzy dropships. We had drop pods! Drop pods and a parachute for the whole platoon. And we had to SHARE the parachute!" :D
NOT Aliens, dud!
thats franchise is in the OTHER set...
Best dropship in any fiction, even beating out the venerable Thunderhawk of WH40K.
REPRESENT!!
But what about the raptors from BSG?
@@RetroRadianceLight BSG Raptors are dropships, but though they carry a surprising amount of weapons, I personally don't feel they match up to the UD-4. I'd have to rewatch the series to see anything about their durability. I initially mistook the Viper for the Raptor; that's how long it's been since I watched BSG. XD
Game over man... GAME OVER!!!
The only thing I didn't like about this ship, was it's scale in relation to the armored car. It should have been much bigger.
I think that was much the point. The hold is the size of the APC. They're a matched pair. There's no wasted space.
Now whether that's actually possible give the standard physics that Aliens uses... Maybe?
Also it wasn't alien prof. Or have a bath room.....
@@maxoverridemax needed scanners for intruders.
HAY!?
DO NOT mess with Perfection!!
@@maxoverridemax designed during the cold war era, its emphasized more towards functionality, crew comfort is secondary after thought..
as for alien proof, well, that very species very much alien thus unknown, uncharted to even the greatest of accomplished terran xenologists ... so yeah, very plausible explanation as to why one single soldier Alien easily sneaked its way in..
Awesome graphics in the opening, made me really nostalgic
Move it Spunkmeyer, we're rolling!🙃
If Aliens isn't one of the best Sci-Fi movies ever made. Look into my eye...
GGGRRRR,
Absolutely BAD ASSES!!
lets pack em in!
Not really. Kinda sold the horror of the first movie for action. And the series really started devolving from there. It's a good, fun movie, but I wouldn't say it's among the best.
@@Servellion He didn't say series, he said movie.
Don’t make me chose between aliens the best sci-FI action movie and the1982 THE THING best SCI FI horror movie ever
@@chaoscommentary2179 I choose the thing.
"Game over,man! Game over!!!"
Fantastic work on the graphics for this one, lads. The Retro futuristic aesthetic of the alien franchise is replicated beautifully in this video. Well done, Alistair.
Video made my day.
I really wish we had a battlefield like alien game where you and your friends can fly the drop ship and your other teammates can ride in the APC
Given your attention to detail and expansive content coverage of multiple ships I am really surprised your not over 500k subs by now, I truly look forward to all your video releases as they are very well done and informative for a sci fi nerd like me. I wish your channel the best!
Respect!
This is, by far my favorite drop ship
It is kind of the original and as far as I know, the first use of the term Dropship in science fiction
R.I.P PVT HUDSON: WE'RE ON A EXPRESS ELEVATOR TO HELL' GOING DOOOWWWNN
“We’re on an express elevator to hell! Goin down!!”
Allen ThinkingPositively feet first into hell
Just a few thoughts:
Dropping a dropship from a decaying orbit won't provide any stealth benefits:
1. Reentry heating will still be a factor and easily noticeable (suborbital velocity is still incredibly fast).
2. A big spaceship approaching your atmosphere is much more noticeable than one or two small dropships.
3. The engine burn of the carrier as it reestablishes orbit will be like a small second sun in your sky and an obvious warning that it just dropped something off.
Also, the giant weapon pods that take several seconds to deploy and triple the cross-section of the dropship are a bad design. So is having all of those missiles and their explosives and fuel out in the open as an easy target is also not a good idea.
UPPER Atmosphere shoulda relaxed drag,
I agree with missiles, though. Looks Cool. But, HE KNEW Engineers were present...
Haha, yeah. I remember having the same thoughts when I first saw the film, but after several beers my friends and I drunkenly rationalized that it was such a Marine way to enter combat- screaming all the way to the surface and that in regular use it would've been 1 among a whole fleet of dropships like in starship troopers so stealth is ignored.
I was tempted to say "hit the traking button".
WHEW,
nice pitch TimeTraveler!
Where's the damn beacon, oh there it is-- Fero.
.....poor Ferro.
I love anything Aliens, thank you for delivering again SD crew :)
I can see how this inspired the design of the Pelican
Watch the movie first before you put up a comment about the greatest cargo ship ever created, itsdisrespectful
How do the top wings unfold? I've never understood how that physically works
The spars are criss-crossed one over the other. I have the model. It was a clever design.
Just watched aliens 2 again. I gotta say the directors and set producers did an amazing job making this movie seem so realistic with the complete lack of heavy cgi. You can tell the scenes that are fake but most of the movie has the grit and dark atmosphere of immersion. One of the best older films ever made.
Ah yessssss...Aliens "Game over man! Game over!" 😁😁
NOW,
that is a HUDSON REFERENCE!!
The quality of this video is superb.
Loved this one. Alien and Aliens are two of my favorite SciFi films.
The UD4 and the Pelican have to be my all time favorite dropships. Along side the ps2 game dropship... dropships and the raptor.
Since you're teaming with this documentary crew, will you do the Gunstar from The Last Starfighter?
Resurrected Starships - ua-cam.com/video/DQ58NrREGdM/v-deo.html
OK,
now THIS Man. Has Good Taste!! Haha!
"Let's rock!!" PFC Vasquez before laying the smack down...
Hell yeah! Another video on a vehicle I wanted to see! Keep up the great work! I’ve been wanting to get a real life model of this ship for so long
a brick flying at Mach 12... The back blast from those engines must be able to level city blocks.
Maybe it reaches that top speed during the drop itself rather than in level flight. A bit unefficient looking for that kind of top speed ... or just uses some space magic engines :).
@Matthew Caughey wow, they really went deep into the tech stuff. Impressive really, never knew there was so much lore behind the movies.
@@gusty9053 You can find PDFs of the Technical Manual on google. Just search for USCM Technical Manual.
Hey Daniel, Just wanted to say I love your work and enjoy your take on these vessels. I did notice that while you went over the Mars and Earth ships from the Expanse you didn't cover any of the Belter vessels other than Tycho station and the Behemoth. I would love to see info on Drummer's ship as well as the other belter vessels. As a model builder I find these to be the most interesting. Thanks
The Pelican drop ship was a fun homage to this
I used to have the Aliens pen and paper RPG sourcebook from the early 90's version. I very much wish I still had it.
Great editing! you pulled off the retro/future look perfectly!
I enjoyed the use of VHS style footage mixed with movie footage. You make all the craft look and sound believable.
I built this as a model kit back in High School, it took a lot of customization!!!! I had to cut body panels out of sheets of plastic in order to have all the weapons deployed....
In other words a flying brick with firepower, the mechanicus would approve. Love it.
They really need to make a game where you can fly this thing. I've seen videos of a super old Aliens computer game, where you guide the dropship through the drop sequence, and that was it.
I love the old Texas Instruments floppy disk feel you guys applied at the beginning! Very good breakdown!
your video production quality is amazing this video. Huge thanks to Alistare, I was quite impressed. Can't wait to see yours and others work on the Sojourn
Loved the presentation. Great video, as always.
Another great video guys. Hope your all keeping safe during these...interesting times.
That video is beautifully edited!
theres something about the back rockets pod that really bugs me with its design, the opening sequence also makes it worse
HEY,
a LITTLE surrender, Please?!
Awesome Vid Dude
Wouldn't atmospheric entry still produce a great deal of heat, even at sub-orbital speeds?
It does, but the dropship's outer skin is coated in a heat resistant composite, which also has the bonus of giving it some protection from directed energy weapons like lasers and partical beams. It does mean though, that during the last stages of a drop, when the Cheyenne is decelerating, it is very vulnerable, since the huge heat signature can be clearly detected and at those speeds, it really can't manouver
@@weldonwin But by not firing the engines they also get maximum element of surprise allowable for such an operation. Also they would get some cooling if they're fortunate enough to come through a cloud layer.
That CRT/VHS retro makes this video look so damn badass! Takes me back! Love it!
LOVE the new intro. Thats COOL.
hudson: "game over man, game over"
long time fan of your work, Spacedock...thanks for the really great videos.
just a suggestion, have you considered an examination of the old V (Visitor) skyfighters?
keep up the great work. always looking forward to the next video.
I watched the movie last week, great design and great aliens effect on the video.
This was great!
i fucking love that you used the Alien style of video presentation..
I like the way the tail makes it a lot like a shuttlecock. Like the Virgin Galactic thing. Heavy in front, tail in the back. What you would think was needed for a crazy plummet as fast as you can go from orbit to the surface.
Very professionally made - I'll take a dozen...
Its nice to see and learn stuff from Aliens universe.
Someone,
FILL this Mans Beer, Please!!
Love the Retro 80s future intro
Great effects
Mach 12 in atmosphere! You're having a laugh.
Given that escape velocity is mach 33, it's not as rediculus as it sounds. Or maybe it's better to say that the whole concept of the craft is rediculus, by real world standards.
That's the same speed as the space shuttle in re-entry. It's not accelerating to mach 12 it's falling to mach 12.
Sr71 was mach 3 and temps would exceed 600 degrees F (300)
And was made almost entirely of titanium.
Mach 12 is either a joke or came up with by someone who had no idea what real world aircraft do.
@@asasial1977 or was making some pretty hefty assumptions about how technology would develop in the years between now and then.
@@asasial1977 Good thing it's not an aircraft, then. Ever heard of space?
Game over man, game over!
Thanks for a good video review of my childhood nightmare movie love :D I love this dropship
10/10 for the period video effects and graphics
One of my favorite sci-fi ships
Great video. And don't forget the M577 APC is also adept at towing 747's. LOL
That was awesome.
I STILL have my Aliens: Space Marine Handbook! Yeah, it’s a rarity now.
What am I going to annoy you if I keep asking for the Astro mega-ship from Power Rangers in space?
Make video about Doom fortress, Unmaykr or BFG 10 000 from Doom Eternal.
Good one, guys! I really appreciated the VHS artifact. The way "Aliens" was meant to be viewed, haha.
It Reminds me of Dropship from Starships Trooper (Cartoon tv show)
...uh, Heathen Detetected!?!
REEEEEE!
Love the retro-looking computer-style animation.
I'll be honest, I prefer this drop ship than the one used on Starship Troopers, and I prefer the Sulaco over the Rodger Young.
I use both designs in my own stories. With the Sulaco class ships deploying APC's, tanks, and in a larger variant combat mecha.
The Rodger Young or the Emerson class ( the name i use for them) troop ships deploy infantry and air support units.
@@jonmcgee6987 Do you have the link to read the story? Sounds interesting to me to read.
So much 80's in this video... :D
"How many COMBAT drops...?"
"Uh... two. Including this one."
I loved this episode. The music, the graphics. However, i just cant see it going mach 12.
Highgrounder it left the area before the blast the size of Montana in a hurry and was in space in seconds
For me the best drop ship in any sci-fi
Those graphics had to take a lot of time! Job well done!
yknow never been a fan of this things design,. it always looked so thrown together.
Terrific design.
It's probably one of the most iconic vehicle designs, and I love it, but I hate the big rocket arms that swing out the top. Looks like a strong crosswind would tear them off. Rocket pod on a selfie-stick. I imagine mechanically it'd be very inefficient, rather than just having some kinda sliding apparatus if it had to be sides/top, or retractable doors if forward-facing.
Everything else about it is extremely cool though. Space Huey.
Such a badass ship
One of my favorite Sci-Fi spaceships! :-)
if I'm not mistaken, the cutscenes in Command and Conquer Tiberian Sun shows "Orca fighters" which looked a lot like this aircraft, but without its hidden missile compartments deployed....bombing the turd out of a NOD base.
"Express elevator to hell....going down!!"