Om Birla is a terrible MP also from Kota, Rajasthan. Isi ki ruling mein Kota mein humesha sbse jyada suicide cases hue hain aur IIIT Kota ke naam par ye 2018 mein vote maanga. Abhi tk IIIT Kota under construction hai. Aur ab ye AIIMS Kota banane ki soch rhe hain. Are ek to pura krle ye. And Kota mein actually development Congress ne kiya hai.
I really dont like the the first 6 min..When vimoh cleary shows his personal grudge with rahul..I m taking about ideologically..So plz dont came and say i m doin hero worship
What is raga's ideology? Its still unclear, he is only doing lip service to win elections. All other parties cater to these voters, raga's party is unique, they sit on the centre and have no core values
@@gamesong6600 the rules of the game are set right now, can't insist on changing the game as a powerless person. I offer the model of George Washington here, he led the revolutionary war with ruthless control and then limited himself to 2 terms after he won power, he could have become king but didn't.
If we have to choose between Supreme leader and RaGa, I would definitely go with Raga because he is not narcissistic , arrogance and don’t file religious hatred in society. But even I want no personality cult in politics
Even though what you said is true But we should refrain from doing so because of tomorrow Cong gets brutal majority they will do the same thing So cults are to be avoided at all costs
Imagine Parliament with fiery speeches of Mahua, The ruthlessness of Chandrashekhar Azad , cutthroat questions of Pappu yadav in next 5 years. Where more than 110 bills passed without debate in last 10 years. Now they have to debate in every step of the government. Opposition literary have more voice in the house.
Do you think? They will do voice vote for every bill and then the speaker will give victory to NDA every time. If the opposition protests, the speaker will throw MP's out and suspend them. If things go out of control, nd the opposition does not budge from their demand for debate, they will run a smear campaign that opposition is wasting taxpayer money by disrupting parliament.
Can someone write a story (may be vimoh can) a time travel story where EMERGENCY was not implemented, she did nothing about the movement in punjab. What would have happened 🤔 would we still have punjab? I don't want emergency to be defended but i also want to be practical and imagine how would india's map look today? If punjab gets a different country i am sure many other states would also ask for same (many from south would go too & east too?) . If punjab didn't separate she somehow stopped it by using other means like military rule would punjab have turned into another J & K like state? That was a critical time in our history, many possibilities were there. Only someone with great imagination can show everyone all the possibilities.
Hey Vimoh i had a question if we start dissenting there is enough chance we will get incarcerated. And as many people are from small towns with there own jobs it might land us in problems so how do you think we can be safe while raising the right questions
A good Neta cannot be a good person. Someone said this to me as well. I always retort - What is a good Neta? Is it someone who has leadership quality? Is it someone who is ruthless in winning election? Is it someone who wants to do real good (good for the people)? Because these 3 can be mutually exclusive. For the part of winning election by hook and crook, I agree this is somewhat true, but a good person may have leadership quality and will always want to do genuine good to the people.
I don’t know if you guys would read this - but I want you to watch this guy called Shan prasher (who primarily does movie/content review and roast videos). He also has a podcast channel and calls all right wingers to shit in his mouth. He recently got abhijit iyer mitra on his podcast and they just did all kind of bullshit. I couldn’t understand if they made any sense.
Reference - Role of politician. It is much more than just getting face time in parliament & voting. One could be a pro-active social worker & nosy busy body within your party & limited circle beyond it. One could raise every kind of issue as long as getting the ticket for next round of election & rising up the power structure, is not the only (I repeat, only) aim. If you are talented enough & work hard enough, you could be a Nawazuddin among the Ranbir world. A politician can chart his own path, while working in the party. It would very difficult, yet could be rewarding & there are always smaller niche parties to go to, who need your kind of fame & public presence.
i am so happy to see.. clarity on issues that my family seems to gloss over, hearing people being critical and truthful about the current state of the country is.. refreshing.
Finally a slight reaction on assumed debunking of "Agnostic Atheist" label 😅. The point, me and multiple ppl asked him to counter the position, and let go the label Bhargava truely cares about discussing the ideology behind. But he never respond. Btw Bhargav did a podcast today on chal baat kr channel, it was fine. And it appears that all he cares about is the academic Standards, amd not the social implications of what we talking
BJP congressi these are just labels. In the end people are people and Indians are not liberal. They are lazy and they pretend to be liberal. Their laziness to act is often misunderstood as being non-violent, liberal, pliable, understanding 😂
I'm witnessing the opposite. Children who have grown up in regressive households sick of their parents religious bullshit and choosing not to be a part of their political ideology. I mean... Sanghis can wish all they want. But in the end, they're on the wrong side of history. Regressiveness can't win. It has never won. It's not it's nature to win. Humans are born to live free.
How someone expects Rahul Gandhi to speak for anything other than what benefits him alone is beyond me. He has been an MP throughout the 10 years of UPA. His lazy @ss did not feel the need to do some work as a minister. He was Wayanad's (my constituency) MP in the last term and he did not have a single bill introduced to assist the backward district afflicted by wild animal conflicts and agrarian issues. Not one bill! Rahul Gandhi is a product of a rotten system that feeds the aristocrats in silver spoons, while the masses create the result. He could have fought the Electoral Bonds case like CPIM. No, he not only accepted electoral bonds, but his brother-in-law Vadra gave bonds to the BJP to get DLF out of trouble. He is simply reaping the benefits of hard ground work done by the masses, the farmers, the youtubers & youtube journalists, the students, and the left-wing activists. The only time I felt he was moving in a better direction was during the first Bharat Jodo Yathra. But since then, it's back to square one. What a privilege to be born in an aristocratic family. Had someone from the Left been this privileged, the work they do would have been at least highlighted, instead of being subjected to a systematic right wing propaganda, that is also backed by liberals.
@@rangergaming8316 Are you so incapable of critical reasoning and logical arguments that you have to resort to ad hominems? I have stated specifics in my comment, and you seem to have skipped it and gone straight to ad hominems.
@@usazar Are you referring to Narendra Modi when you say "flawed, effective politician" 'coz that's what I keep hearing from people in the other camp? I'll anyday bet my money on a better overall system (one that prioritizes the upliftment of the weakest and the most marginalized in the society first and foremost) than rely on saintly individual politicians that walked across mama earth.
Actually well put man, Something to think about... in hindsight, it now looked like RaGa had been only opportunistic instead of showing us a real, concrete ideology to follow him as a leader while BJP and their party leaders seem to follow a more concrete economic neo-liberalism with cultural conservatism ideology (whether you agree or not is another thing). I really can't point out where INC stands on issues, like the ones you mentioned. There is no really any long term vision also they discussed - be it on economics, social policies or foreign relations - everything seems very near-sighted, opportunistic, reactive policy making, just to gain political mileage on anti-incumbency & flop programs of BJP. Maybe some of the INDIA partners also have similar ambitions, so all are in cahoots for gaining power. A friend from Kerala was telling there were many news channels airing how RaGa was never there for meeting Wayanad's citizens in the capacity of an elected MP. And that a substantial portion of Wayanad voters thought of the greater good for the country (to get BJP out of power) and only hence voted him, though they were disgruntled with his attitude towards them. (I can't be sure because I do not follow much Malayalam news channels). But seemingly the voters of Kerala are well educated and aware of the government policies and know their rights, yet it looks like they kind of sacrificed and made peace with Rahul Gandhi's candidature for the greater good, and now he seems to have taken them for granted by choosing Rae Bareli over Wayanad.
Sanghi lazily referring to people of the Sangh which means RSS. CA usually are Baniyas and CA exam has no reservation and hence Bhimta reservation is less. Hence call them that.
I don’t quite agree with Megnerd asking people to open up a UA-cam channels so that we can bring up issues.. we have elected these politicians to talk bout issues and pass bills to improve our lives …. This conversation was a nothing burger
Yes but as citizens we have to talk Because our parliament is filled with filth To clear the filthy we have to hold them accountable Just like you hold your maid servants or service providers accountable
Meghnerd is right. He's a streamer doing his job looking at Indian politics and covering what he can. He can't focus on everything, and right now, the eroding democracy is a bigger threat than a hate crime that doesn't have an institutional backing. If you don't want to open up a youtube channel, fine. Just talk with people in your life. Atleast it'll instill the fact in their brain that there's more to politics than the binary they believe in.
@@sumit92artist this is not about Meghnad though. It's about elected representatives doing their jobs which is to discuss and resolve important issues on behalf of the electorate. We need to hold our leaders accountable.
Yeah, very bad take to say that “don’t complain about Rahul not raising the issue, do it yourself”. They are elected for this, they sold mohhabbat ki dukan, and they are side stepping it. Vimoh started with raising this issue then agreed with this bad take, Meghnath didn’t even put any good point for him to flip like that. Disappointing.
Om Birla is a terrible MP also from Kota, Rajasthan. Isi ki ruling mein Kota mein humesha sbse jyada suicide cases hue hain aur IIIT Kota ke naam par ye 2018 mein vote maanga. Abhi tk IIIT Kota under construction hai. Aur ab ye AIIMS Kota banane ki soch rhe hain. Are ek to pura krle ye. And Kota mein actually development Congress ne kiya hai.
we want “one punch man” cosplay from vimoh
Yeah... I want it too
I vote for it 😂
😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻
I really dont like the the first 6 min..When vimoh cleary shows his personal grudge with rahul..I m taking about ideologically..So plz dont came and say i m doin hero worship
Thank you for your time, really looking forward to more discussions
Can someone explain the Spiderman cameo in panchayat? I did not get the joke.
I slightly disagree with the focus on RaGa, personality cults are now the norm, I'll take RaGa over Supreme Leader any day.
How about no one. 😊 Why do we cage ourselves in a box, with options presented by people we don't know.
What is raga's ideology? Its still unclear, he is only doing lip service to win elections. All other parties cater to these voters, raga's party is unique, they sit on the centre and have no core values
@@gamesong6600 the rules of the game are set right now, can't insist on changing the game as a powerless person. I offer the model of George Washington here, he led the revolutionary war with ruthless control and then limited himself to 2 terms after he won power, he could have become king but didn't.
If we have to choose between Supreme leader and RaGa, I would definitely go with Raga because he is not narcissistic , arrogance and don’t file religious hatred in society.
But even I want no personality cult in politics
Even though what you said is true
But we should refrain from doing so because of tomorrow Cong gets brutal majority they will do the same thing
So cults are to be avoided at all costs
Imagine Parliament with fiery speeches of Mahua, The ruthlessness of Chandrashekhar Azad , cutthroat questions of Pappu yadav in next 5 years.
Where more than 110 bills passed without debate in last 10 years. Now they have to debate in every step of the government. Opposition literary have more voice in the house.
Do you think? They will do voice vote for every bill and then the speaker will give victory to NDA every time. If the opposition protests, the speaker will throw MP's out and suspend them. If things go out of control, nd the opposition does not budge from their demand for debate, they will run a smear campaign that opposition is wasting taxpayer money by disrupting parliament.
Can someone write a story (may be vimoh can) a time travel story where EMERGENCY was not implemented, she did nothing about the movement in punjab. What would have happened 🤔 would we still have punjab? I don't want emergency to be defended but i also want to be practical and imagine how would india's map look today? If punjab gets a different country i am sure many other states would also ask for same (many from south would go too & east too?) . If punjab didn't separate she somehow stopped it by using other means like military rule would punjab have turned into another J & K like state? That was a critical time in our history, many possibilities were there. Only someone with great imagination can show everyone all the possibilities.
Modi government's end will be similar to the end of the original Saheb Bibi aur Ghulam
Hey Vimoh i had a question if we start dissenting there is enough chance we will get incarcerated. And as many people are from small towns with there own jobs it might land us in problems so how do you think we can be safe while raising the right questions
1:35:45 Aamraram story is awesome. If you have more such stories, pls share them on streams more often.
Was late to join but watching the full live. Thanks to both of you for such amazing stream
Hi Vimoh and Meghnad, enjoyed this show and your clarity in thinking
buh why so much money
?
@@DoNotTrustAnATOMbecause they found value in the content. If you did too, please feel free to pay.
Excellent conversation.
Sincere thanks.
I really appreciate your views. I am able to understand politics much better along with Meghnerd.
Watching the live now 🙈🙈and enjoying it.thankyou for ur hardwork vimoh and meghnerd
Amra Ram❤
52:00 vimoh you are right
Why in the world should Raga not speak up on minority issues! Wtf! Meghnerd, you’re way off in asking us to speak up. Vote kyun kiya hamney? Kuch bhi?
Keep it up 🎉
A good Neta cannot be a good person. Someone said this to me as well. I always retort - What is a good Neta? Is it someone who has leadership quality? Is it someone who is ruthless in winning election? Is it someone who wants to do real good (good for the people)? Because these 3 can be mutually exclusive. For the part of winning election by hook and crook, I agree this is somewhat true, but a good person may have leadership quality and will always want to do genuine good to the people.
I don’t know if you guys would read this - but I want you to watch this guy called Shan prasher (who primarily does movie/content review and roast videos). He also has a podcast channel and calls all right wingers to shit in his mouth. He recently got abhijit iyer mitra on his podcast and they just did all kind of bullshit. I couldn’t understand if they made any sense.
For Meghnad if you think that when your kids rebel it will be similar to your sister then to wait for it😂😂😂
Do a podcast with Buffalo Intellectual. Would love to see you both interact.
Reference - Role of politician. It is much more than just getting face time in parliament & voting. One could be a pro-active social worker & nosy busy body within your party & limited circle beyond it. One could raise every kind of issue as long as getting the ticket for next round of election & rising up the power structure, is not the only (I repeat, only) aim.
If you are talented enough & work hard enough, you could be a Nawazuddin among the Ranbir world.
A politician can chart his own path, while working in the party. It would very difficult, yet could be rewarding & there are always smaller niche parties to go to, who need your kind of fame & public presence.
Vimoh is if raven from teen titans was a guy and an adult. Same vibes, serious and making excellent points and a really incisive sense of humour
Love the live ❤❤❤
1hr10min - @emergency protest by BJP MP's, the bhakts love it. It's a refresher course for bhakts.
👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
i am so happy to see.. clarity on issues that my family seems to gloss over, hearing people being critical and truthful about the current state of the country is.. refreshing.
Not me who watched the Meghnad Azim Banatwala vid first 😂
But sloly news reporter will become good in people eyes by chearing raga
Finally a slight reaction on assumed debunking of "Agnostic Atheist" label 😅. The point, me and multiple ppl asked him to counter the position, and let go the label Bhargava truely cares about discussing the ideology behind. But he never respond.
Btw Bhargav did a podcast today on chal baat kr channel, it was fine. And it appears that all he cares about is the academic Standards, amd not the social implications of what we talking
Meghnerd ia actually good listener 😨😨😨 anyone noticed tyat?
Please invite science journey and amit Tiwari on your stream
49:22 49:36 Why did he said "bachkan" two times? Is it bachkan in other language and not bachpan?
Bachkan se 49:24 😅
What happens to kids of liberal parents ? They will rebel to become sanghis 😂. Many a BJP karya karta are children of Congressi .
Sanghi wet dreams be like
Not all congressi are liberal
BJP congressi these are just labels. In the end people are people and Indians are not liberal. They are lazy and they pretend to be liberal. Their laziness to act is often misunderstood as being non-violent, liberal, pliable, understanding 😂
liberal and sanghi are not the only options available, you know. they can grow a brain of their own and create their own nuanced personal ideologies.
I'm witnessing the opposite. Children who have grown up in regressive households sick of their parents religious bullshit and choosing not to be a part of their political ideology.
I mean... Sanghis can wish all they want. But in the end, they're on the wrong side of history. Regressiveness can't win. It has never won. It's not it's nature to win. Humans are born to live free.
2:00:40 Azeem banatwala is the next guest maybe
opposition is still is in somewhat sleep mode
@meghnerd बचकन से x बचपन से 🤔
Hi Vimoh and Meghnad, enjoyed this show and your clarity in thinking
Thank you for the support!
How someone expects Rahul Gandhi to speak for anything other than what benefits him alone is beyond me.
He has been an MP throughout the 10 years of UPA. His lazy @ss did not feel the need to do some work as a minister. He was Wayanad's (my constituency) MP in the last term and he did not have a single bill introduced to assist the backward district afflicted by wild animal conflicts and agrarian issues. Not one bill!
Rahul Gandhi is a product of a rotten system that feeds the aristocrats in silver spoons, while the masses create the result. He could have fought the Electoral Bonds case like CPIM. No, he not only accepted electoral bonds, but his brother-in-law Vadra gave bonds to the BJP to get DLF out of trouble.
He is simply reaping the benefits of hard ground work done by the masses, the farmers, the youtubers & youtube journalists, the students, and the left-wing activists. The only time I felt he was moving in a better direction was during the first Bharat Jodo Yathra. But since then, it's back to square one. What a privilege to be born in an aristocratic family. Had someone from the Left been this privileged, the work they do would have been at least highlighted, instead of being subjected to a systematic right wing propaganda, that is also backed by liberals.
Bruh it's clear that you're just a LDF fan trying to find reasons to shit on him.
@@rangergaming8316 Are you so incapable of critical reasoning and logical arguments that you have to resort to ad hominems? I have stated specifics in my comment, and you seem to have skipped it and gone straight to ad hominems.
I'll take a flawed effective politician over a flawless ineffective one. Also the man literally walked across the country.
@@usazar Are you referring to Narendra Modi when you say "flawed, effective politician" 'coz that's what I keep hearing from people in the other camp?
I'll anyday bet my money on a better overall system (one that prioritizes the upliftment of the weakest and the most marginalized in the society first and foremost) than rely on saintly individual politicians that walked across mama earth.
Actually well put man, Something to think about... in hindsight, it now looked like RaGa had been only opportunistic instead of showing us a real, concrete ideology to follow him as a leader while BJP and their party leaders seem to follow a more concrete economic neo-liberalism with cultural conservatism ideology (whether you agree or not is another thing). I really can't point out where INC stands on issues, like the ones you mentioned. There is no really any long term vision also they discussed - be it on economics, social policies or foreign relations - everything seems very near-sighted, opportunistic, reactive policy making, just to gain political mileage on anti-incumbency & flop programs of BJP. Maybe some of the INDIA partners also have similar ambitions, so all are in cahoots for gaining power. A friend from Kerala was telling there were many news channels airing how RaGa was never there for meeting Wayanad's citizens in the capacity of an elected MP. And that a substantial portion of Wayanad voters thought of the greater good for the country (to get BJP out of power) and only hence voted him, though they were disgruntled with his attitude towards them. (I can't be sure because I do not follow much Malayalam news channels). But seemingly the voters of Kerala are well educated and aware of the government policies and know their rights, yet it looks like they kind of sacrificed and made peace with Rahul Gandhi's candidature for the greater good, and now he seems to have taken them for granted by choosing Rae Bareli over Wayanad.
What's a sanghi?
Who follow brmahinism
@@y1.5 explain in detail bro
@@Candidjalapeno people who follow ideology of RSS
@@y1.5 umm unhone bola ca log sanghi hote mostly what do they mean
Sanghi lazily referring to people of the Sangh which means RSS. CA usually are Baniyas and CA exam has no reservation and hence Bhimta reservation is less. Hence call them that.
I don’t quite agree with Megnerd asking people to open up a UA-cam channels so that we can bring up issues.. we have elected these politicians to talk bout issues and pass bills to improve our lives …. This conversation was a nothing burger
Yes but as citizens we have to talk
Because our parliament is filled with filth
To clear the filthy we have to hold them accountable
Just like you hold your maid servants or service providers accountable
Meghnerd is right. He's a streamer doing his job looking at Indian politics and covering what he can. He can't focus on everything, and right now, the eroding democracy is a bigger threat than a hate crime that doesn't have an institutional backing.
If you don't want to open up a youtube channel, fine. Just talk with people in your life. Atleast it'll instill the fact in their brain that there's more to politics than the binary they believe in.
@@sumit92artist this is not about Meghnad though. It's about elected representatives doing their jobs which is to discuss and resolve important issues on behalf of the electorate. We need to hold our leaders accountable.
Yeah, very bad take to say that “don’t complain about Rahul not raising the issue, do it yourself”. They are elected for this, they sold mohhabbat ki dukan, and they are side stepping it. Vimoh started with raising this issue then agreed with this bad take, Meghnath didn’t even put any good point for him to flip like that. Disappointing.