116 Year Old Brilliant Chess Puzzle
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8/8/8/5pp1/8/1K6/2pp1Q2/2k5 w - - 0 1
Puzzle Details:
Janis Behting, 1907
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My man literally gave us a random informations at the beginning.
Yeah
But did you know that you can't draw a circle in the same direction with your hand and leg at the same time on one side of your body
I like it
because these videos are for everyone and I'm sure there's a few viewers who didn't see that fork, yes, he should say directly why and not show an entire variation which doesn't work but still
He did the same for the last video
I love winning by the underpromotion to a knight. I did it once and achieved a smothered checkmate! Felt amazing. The fork idea in this video is even more clever.
He's taking about the counter black has where it can promote a pawn to knight to threaten king and queen IF white makes a specific, poor move.
@Backpackzack42 nah it happens to all of us.
I knew that Qf3 was the only winning move based on none of the other options working, but I couldn't calculate the position after Pf4. That was fun seeing how it rolled out and glad I was able to get as far as I did!
Yeah king c3 is a crazy idea it’s always those quiet moves
Really enjoy these love the story telling
At first I was confused why you didn't cover Qd3 check for black.... then I remembered the pawns are going down lol
me too 😂
Me three 😂
Same
Me four
Me five, I’m a dumbass sometimes lmfao
I love the anecdotes at the start of the video lol, keep it up!
After Qf2 you didn't show f3, this of all the variants makes it hardest for white.
Like others say: love the statistics in the opening. Still working on my endgame so not so good on this one but got a couple of the questions right. Here to learn. 🙂
I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again…Nelson loves himself an under promotion.
Author stops explaining variants too early. After 1. Qe3 f4 2. Qf2 it is important to show 2. … f3 3. Qe3 and black have a bunch of options: f2, g4, Kd1, but white a good answer to all of them
I failed to see both the promotion to a knight and the game plan overall. Once you put the white Queen at f2, I did solve the Kc3 move, but the brilliant move to Qf2 was beyond my vision. I didn't think about freezing the Black Queen and forcing a pawn move. Good puzzle.
You gotta take the perspective of the enemy
Very cool puzzle, and love how you explain them and let us try for ourselves
Elän elämää ku räikkösen kimi
I got a couple of moves, and I must say the thing about chess puzzles that often gets me is that I know its a puzzle so often times the obvious move doesn't occur to me because I'm thinking, "Well, it can't be the obvious move because its a puzzle!"
Then I *HIGHLY* suggest that next time you consider the "obvious" moves first and eliminate them. It's always a wonder to me how many players sincerely seem to think that they could have EASILY solved the puzzle ONCE they see have seen the solution, because it's "so obvious," but strangely are never able to solve the puzzle BEFORE seeing the solution...
@@OzymandiasSaysHi I'm actually discussing the ones I solve. Often times I expect some bizarre combination of sacrifices coupled with underpromotion.
I loved this puzzle, and the way you explained it. It's just at the edge of my skill level, which feels great :)
Very cool position and nice explanation.
In my opinion it was not so hard to figure it out because there are not so many pieces on the board, but it's still cool.
I love a good chess puzzle, but I rarely have the time to follow an analysis all the way through - especially while having to take notes as to the proper sequence of moves. Would it be possible, in future videos, to perhaps show the complete solution before the closing credits, or in the notes that are hidden under the "...more" tag? Thank you.
love your videos, very interesting, please keep it up
Loving the rando Snapple facts at the beginnings, makes me wonder if he actually gets them from Snapple caps
I set the position up to try out KC3 on stockfish, feeling very please with myself having worked out all the moves to mate, and 0.25 seconds later discovered my error.
What if instead black promotes to a queen, black promotes to a knight with a check to king I guess.
After c1=N+, then Ka3.
You mean at 4:13 ? There's no check. White would just xc2 and it's mate
Great puzzle. Enjoyed the lesson.
Pizza parlors alone would take 10 years. Take 20 years to have a drink at every bar.
Id love to see the game that results in that setup
At 3:53 how is Q to C3 not also a winning move? They promote, you mate. They move a pawn, you push in then gobble pawns.
The black king can escape to D2 after you move your queen to B2 or A1 (assuming they promote to queen)
Really nice explanation Nelson Lopez, I like it so much
I love the random facts at the beginning of the videos!
This reminds me of a game I once played. There were more pieces on the board but I could not decide what to do so I decided to take a piece & put the king in check. My opponent made the only move he could blocking my queen and i again took a piece and put him in check again but now it was the only move I could make ... I stumbled into it doing the same thing again and again. Each move was the only move i could do until mate
A another good 'un! Thanks, Nelson!
This puzzle was way out of my league :D
Zugzwang is always a form of art
You didn't look at Qd4 immediately. That looked like a good try worth discussing.
Loses
Man please do more puzzle videos
He has a second channel where he does only puzzles
@@BorisGamingChannel thanks bro
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was curious, if black got the knight instead in that position, wouldn't that do the fork you mentioned earlier? EDIT: NVM I am silly and late at night, I see the issue.
Any Martin video on other channel? Great videos btw
At 3:40 into the video, why not Qa7 and then Qa1? Or if the black king moves to d1 after Qa7 then Qg1?
“There are 22.7 million possible endings to this position.” - gotta make sure I choose the best restaurant 🤔
It was a nice series in a modern endgame.
Very enjoyable. Thank you
Great Puzzle. Thanks!
At the start of the final sequence, shown at 4:35. What about black moving Qd3+? It's White force move to Kb4. Then black moves Kb1 and is on track for another promotion.
After Black playing Qd3+, White plays Kxd3, not Kb4. The Black pawns are moving down the board, not up; and therefore, the Black queen is not protected from a White king attack on the square d3.
7:00 what is stopping blach going qd3+
Am i missing something obvious?
Edit: nvm i was looking at it the wrong eay and thought it was defended by the pawn
I admit my first thought was Kc3 then when I actually saw the move it was one of those forehead-slap moments like "WTF were you thinking?"
Incredible. Nice puzzle.
King C3 would actually work if your opponent has auto queen on and doesn’t temporarily disable using alt
5:21 why not queen d3?
@mythbusters866 isn't the Queen protected by the pawn on c2?
Edit: oops my mistake, i forgot how the pawns work
❤❤ Love these chess puzzles
In the latter half of the puzzle, insted of promoting the d2 pawn to a queen, would promoting it to a knight prevent the option of moving the white queen to b2 for mate?
no cuz of Qxc2#
I saw this! I am happy! (Its not often that i cleanly calculate complex puzzles and come up with accurate moves)
I missed the relation between the NY restaurants fact and the puzzle. At any rate, good trivia to know.
I know virtually nothing about chess, but I enjoyed the video. Very nicely done.
Awesome video! However not without faults. at 5:27 if you are black, you can just move your queen to D3 and check the king. The white has to move away.
Also at 3:40 if you are white you can move your queen to C3, and if black makes queen you just checkmate by moving queen to B2. If black moves king or doesnt promote to queen you can just pick off the pawns. :)
Came here to say the comment about c3
For the first part, at 5:27 the black pawns are moving down the board, not up. So the white king can just simply take the queen.
3:40 if WQ moves to C3 then the D2 BP promotes to Knight and threatens the WQ's current position and B2, that "checkmate" position.
Kinda embarrassing that you said "not without faults" and then gave two examples of how your chess game is not very strong. Queen to D3... you just sacrificed the Queen. You do understand the king can take pieces? Queen to C3 then B2 isn't checkmate because after the pawn promotes to Queen there is an open space at D2 for the King to go ton and escape.
I wonder how a Queen to A7 start would pan out. Because after they promote, you can bring down to A1 for the check. I think black can wiggle out of it, but I’d be interested in knowing the path.
Yeah, I had the same idea. Really interesting.
King to d2 is totally safe for Black.
Queen a7, black promotes to queen, and now the queen on a7 is really bad for white. Because the black king escapes to the center, and the pawn is defended by the queen. So then black would have two queens unless you trade queens but then you'd still be at a loss as white, because now you're versing a queen and a king...
In the initial position I found king C3, but didn't even consider that the pawn can promote to a knight. pinning the pawn to the king didn't seem convincing enough, because I couldn't find the continuation. 4:42 I did find the Zugzwang.
Great puzzle
It took me some time to realize that you said „Zugzwang“ which I should understand because I’m German 😅 But it sounds quite funny the way you pronounce it 👍🏻
But what if black would not promote to a queen on d1 after white played Qg2 (4:15) rather move an other pawn or promote to a knight?
i really would like to see how these variations played out.
if Black promotes to anything other than queen or bishop, they get mated in 1 💀
If black moves a different pawn besides that one for example, f4 pawn to f3, then white will pin the pawn to the king again by going to e3. Maybe the black king could go to d1 after that, to threaten to promote the pawn behind it, but once the white queen moves down again, black king would be forced to move to e2, and then white king takes the pawn on c2 and the other pawn just gets eaten because once the white queen moves to d1 it's defended by the king (I say it like this because, promoting that pawn would now be a wast of a move).. and now black is in a losing endgame
Same scenario but if g5 pawn moves to g4, White queen takes f4 pawn, pins the pawn to the king, but if king moves to d1, now it's checkmate, so black is forced to go to b1 if they hope to use the pawns closer to promoting. BUT now we have white king to c3, and after that if black promotes to a queen we have mate in two for white. (Pawn promotes to Queen, white queen to a6, and every king move for black is checkmate) Note underpromoting to a knight allows the white king to move back (which the knight can't make a check next turn) and now you are down a pawn in a losing endgame. But more specifically if your knight moves to any squares like, f2, e3.. the queen would take it before moving to the 2nd rank again. so.. becareful of that. And knight b2 is mate in 1 for white, in that position. BUT why is the second rank important here? If you promote the f2 pawn to anything besides a horse, it's gg. But if you did, in optimal play white would eventually win. Because the queen would take the pawn, and it's a 2 Knight vs Queen endgame. And a queen has more counter play than two knights. But blundering the queen to a fork would be easy, and if you do a trade it's a draw.
Or you know... if they move any other pawn white can just go to f1, force out a queen promote and go back to f2.....
Would it be possible for black to play for a draw if they promote to a knight into check at 2:50?
Everything ia fine, but correct to say "tsuktswang"
Actually there are many tricky KQ vs KP positions where it's not clear at all how the KQ side could win. Add three more pawns and it can be a nightmare.
Will Queen e4 also work?
3:52 I play white Qe4 d1 Kc3 .Is it the same result as Qf2 ?
I am an experienced chess player. Even with a Queen it can be tricky against two or more pawns close to promotion.
When he promotes the pawn he cannot leave the black pawn in C2 open (as anything in D1 that cannot move to C2 means Q to C2 checkmate). But what about promotion to Bishop? I thought that through as well. And all that does is delay the end. K to C3 again forces black to make a move they would not want to do, be it move the bishop (no matter where they move it Q to G1 check and the only response is bishop back to D1, then Q to G5 taking the pawn, the pawn in F4 is locked so bishop has to move again, Q to F4 taking second pawn check and it's over from there) or move the pawns (F4 to F3 means Q takes pawn in G5 check and down they go .. or G5 to G4 means Q to F2 and after than no matter the pawn or bishop move the queen can get the diagonal check on the king forcing it to B1 and it all starts to collapse).
I knew you had to play Kc3 at some point and that you have to cover the checks from their queen with our queen but i was stuck if it was Qe2, Qf2, Qf3, Qe4 3:50
Love it!
That's a nice puzzle. Though, with the variation chosen for the win, the promoted pawn could still promote to Knight, which attacks the Queen, and the King could not go to Kc3 which prevents that variation from working.
Then you would play Qc2 and it’s an immediate checkmate
Bruh... you are moving the pawn that is blocking the queen from checkmating the king? You are not allowed to make that move. The pawn is pinned in that spot.
too bad Nelson doesn't compete in Fide World Cup. I'd love to see him there. Maybe next year?
Wow, tough one to see and only like 3 moves!
The main thing I took from this video is it’s almost a certainty that not a single person has ate at all the restaurants in New York City - even if they have lived their their whole lives.
Okay, I see a minor flaw in your final setup: black pawn promotes to queen, white queen to f2, black pawn to g4, white queen to f4; at this point you have the black king retreating to b1, but what if the black queen blocks at d2? The white king can't capture and MUST run away (b3, b4, or c4) and black's next move is to capture white's queen. Just sayin'.
then the white queen just takes the black queen. Thought that would be a problem at first, too...
I was wondering about that.
Bruh.... almost embarrassed to point this out. ... man... king can't but that white queen can. White queen to d2. Check. Followed 2 moves later by checkmate. Just saying. (Seriously delete your comment. It's so cringe.)
black wins! hooray!
great puzzle!
Wow cool puzzle!
had to use a chessboard to solve that 1 but not a chess engine lol
I want a video on topic that what to do in endgame if we are having advantage like a rook for a bishop or rook for knight or queen for rook what i can do in this situation
Most times I am in lead but i cant finish in win and game draws 😢
I saw the initial Qe3, but wasn't sure how to respond after the logical f4. I missed Kc3?? d1=N+! though. Got to watch those underpromotions!
what if you did white queen to a7 if white
to move first i think that would be checkmate in one from one chess player to another i think queen to a7 is a killer move but only if black decides to promote obviously
After Qf2 what if black promotes to knight?
One thing I hate about that figure is that in that many years, how many of those restaurants will close vs how many more will open?
I got stuck at f5f4 when looking at the thumbnail. No way to prevent black promoting a pawn. Qf2 is the only option, it’s a forced move, but I couldn’t see that it leaves black with no options. Fun exercise.
Winning move has to be preventing the queen with Qe3, right? We're not trading because then we can't win, and we're not letting them get and keep a queen because that would just be giving them 3 pawns advantage.
I recently got interested in chess and love your channel. I have a question though, at 4:33 the white king moves to c3. What happens if black moves queen to d3. It seems that this will eliminate any advantage white will have. Am I missing something about this?
Yes you are missing, because king will capture queen as it has no support. Black C2 pawn is going down so it can't protect queen.
@@NitPlay The queen will be protected by the pawn on c2
@@1usrname As NitPlay mentioned, black's pawn on c2 doesn't defend d3. It defends d1, because the black pawns are moving _down_ the board.
@@1usrnamecheck ur eyes
I seen up to f4 then I started thinking about donuts
Very nice. Thanks.
Good analysis.
I always play bullet and at this point in the game there’s 2.7 seconds left and welp - ya that’s it no time
on the scenary of 5:15, couldn't black play Qd3 to force white to run with the King?
Pity i found all variants myself.
I actually managed to solve this! I feel really happy!
No way you found Qf2 followed by Kc3 unless you apend at least an hour or you are over 2000 rating
@@mxicklejx7233 So I was thinking about getting my queen to a1 but I saw that after d1=Q then the king could go to d2 so I thought about putting my queen somewhere and then play Kc3 but I saw the problem that I would only be able to play Kc3 AFTER black queens and it could put my king in check. So I started thinking on how to stop all the checks at the same time when I bring my king to c3 and I saw the only checks the queen had were e1, d2 and f3 so after thinking for a while I found Qf2 to block all those checks
@@mxicklejx7233 Isn't it kind of obvious to pin the pawn?
@@christianpires3919 Yes it is, but Qf2 is not pinning anything, and it's not obvious.
Queen to a7. If he promotes then mate in two. If he doesn’t then queen to g1 check. He flees and we take pawn with king and start clearing pawns.
@@dustydog4527 No, *of course* Black does not have to promote his pawn. Black can make *any* legal move he wants. But EVERY SINGLE ONE of them leads to his eventual defeat. If Black moves his pawn to f3, White responds with Queen back to e3, pinning the pawn on d2. That pawn *cannot* move to d1 and promote to a "horse" because it is pinned; the Black king would be in check if it moved to d1, which means that that is an illegal move.
Really annoyed I saw the majority of that really quickly, stared at it for 5 minutes and couldn’t get the move after Qf2*. So confused couldn’t even get back to it. 😂
It would take like 6 years since there are 22,000 establishments
Nelson there was already check mate in one move how did you not see that Qf1
At 3:50 why not Qc3? I'm not usually good at this so I may be missing something but I don't see what black should do in that position. Best I see is Kd1 followed by white's Qxc2 and what would likely be a chase around the board but I think it would still be a win for white no?
black promotes
@@user-qu2bp8zt6f Qb2 after promotion?
It would take over 41 years in Hong Kong if you ate at one new restaurant every day, 273 years in Shanghai but the king is Tokyo where it would take 375 years!
love the random facts
Классная задачка, ни разу про такую не слышал. Спасибо автору канала!
2:49 An explanation for instead of a queen choosing a knight would be more interesting.
Ka3 and you lost the game with knight v queen
Just can a pawn be promoted after check
Qa7, if pawn promotes it's checkmate in one with Qa1. If king moves towards the A file, it's Qa2 checkmate. If king d1, king takes pawn, pawn promotes, queen takes pawn checkmate (Before watching the video)
the last sequence doesnt work out, the king cant take the pawn, its still protected by the king on d1. also, how is the pawn supposed to promote with the king then standing in the way?
Interestingly, White doesn't play Kc3 until after Black plays d1=Q; otherwise, Black could then instead play d1=N, forking the King and Queen.
Yes, White is very much aware of the danger of the possible knight fork, so never moves Kc3 until it is safe to do so.