Heads up - apologies for the audio in today’s video I accidentally clicked the echo button on my microphone so it may sound a lil weird.. will get it better for next time ofc ❤ see you in the next video -Keisha
I’m 56 and have felt like you all my adult life. It’s not hard to avoid sitting on the dick of a man who’s in a relationship. I’ve never been unfaithful even when my relationships have been ending, and I’ve had plenty of opportunities because men are hounds.
It’s giving cognitive dissonance to watch Ariana Grande in Wicked interviews, where she’s all sweetness and light, shouting ‘I love you,’ ‘thank you,’ and love-bombing everyone on set. She’s crafted this angelic persona for the role, but knowing what she did to someone behind the scenes makes it feel hollow. How do you make kindness your brand while brutally disregarding another woman’s feelings-especially a postpartum woman-after meeting her and her baby? The bonding between her and Cynthia doesn’t feel like ‘soul sisters’ to me; it comes off as performative, something that will fade when they’re done promoting Wicked. Ariana cries at every opportunity to show how emotional and sensitive she is, but where’s that emotion when it comes to empathy or guilt for the harm she caused? It feels like selective sensitivity: emotional when it serves her narrative, but not when it comes to real accountability.
I find it so disturbing that any woman would willingly decide to cheat with a man that recently had a newborn baby. The lack of empathy is astounding , it's like Ariana has never been told no in her life, so shes probably never been held accountable. Women that are indifferent to the suffering of other women and think they've one-upped them always find out the hard way eventually.
to know your wife has a life threatening condition, has a newborn and is moving to a different city to be with you, and you decide to cheat on her is so vile. Let alone bringing the woman your cheating with to meet your wife and hang out together with your baby while shes clueless. Ethan and Ariana both deserve the worst karma omfg
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@ilooooovekrabbypatties It helps (thank you) omg, she had to go through all of that alone? (There’s a special place in hell for Ethan Slater fr fr) 😭😭😭😭
@@abbied Fr!! Lily’s story hurt me to my heart. It makes my heart break for all of the women who have been in that devastating situation. I usually don’t wish bad things on anyone as it goes against my values, but karma is coming. Karma is coming.
Exactly. There's something called the Halo effect where we basically assume that when someone is attractive, talented, etc. they're also good people. They're literally just people who got lucky with the genetic lottery. We have to stop putting celebrities on a pedestal, we don't know this woman
we are taught this from childhood - pretty princess sings w a beautiful voice, is surrounded by animals and kind heatred, good characters are pretty w just few exceptions
Her annoying “fans” need to understand that. Babes, we don’t CARE how much you love her voice and music .. Lmfao she’s a horrible human. Find a new idol.. maybe GOD? He’s a way better person to “idolize”
There's some old aphorism that's like 'a cheater will cheat on you even if you are everything they want'. It doesn't matter how long you've been with the cheater or how 'perfect' the relationship seemed. If they're the type of person to do that, there is nothing you can do to 'be enough'.
@@abbied yeah he had a girl he cheated on with Ari. she posted " when u see ur ex with the girl he told u not to worry about lol. he got what he asked for
The fact that Ariana thought that she can get away with home wrecking a family shows that she doesn’t care, she’s not a girls girl, and she only thinks about herself and what she wants. I hope lily is doing well with her child and I hope Ethan gets his karma too because he’s also at fault.
I highly doubt he will stay with Arianna forever their relationship will eventually end and when it does he'll have to deal with the fact he gave up a stable family to date a celebrity in a relationship he knew wasn't gonna last
I used to be an Ariana STAN. I was also cheated on right after giving birth. Since the second I saw what was going on and saw her comment about Ari not being a girls girl..I have refused to consume any Ariana content. I will never listen to that homewrecker again, just seeing her gives my body a physical reaction now because of my own trauma. The pain i went through during that time, I know that poor Mom went through x10 and I wouldn't wish that on an enemy. It damaged me so much I've been single for eight years and will never trust another man again in my life. I can't imagine if I had to see the girl my ex cheated with all the time, I don't think I would still be here on this earth.
agreed, i ll wait until wicked is streaming- we all know what really happened- and they DOUBLE DATED!!!!!!!!! i cannot even imagine knowing you went to DINNER with the woman your husband is cheating on you with, i think i would be physically ill once i realized- i mean in front of the wife basically....really bad behavior...
Never been a relastionship but anyone who cheats on a pregnant woman and the one they cheated on, I feel my blood boiling, its been 1 ywar i havent heard a single Ariana song
I dont understand how "girls' girl" is a saying because it's just being a decent human being. It's the bare minimum that a woman can do for another woman, and for some reason, that's celebrated 😭😭
Yeah, which is sad, goes to show how nasty women are to each other. It says a lot when you see comments defending her behavior here and dismissing the wife’s negative reaction towards both of them. Like oh, just be mad at your man. She has every right to be upset with her as well, I’m starting to think the people endorsing this behavior are side chicks themselves 🤔
I fully agree, it's also sad that this implies that men can't control themselves and that we want/need other women to do the decent thing for another woman and not sleep with her man. It sickens me that that's pretty much the nature of people/men? I want to think it's not but there's just too much evidence..
@@bogbunswell, respect should come from within ourselves, amongst ourselves, and from men too. No self-respecting woman would ever do something like this to other women. I haven’t seen one side chick that isn’t actually an insecure bottom feeder yet.
The way her fans are jumping through hoops to defend her lol and mind u ariana has been doing this since the Nickelodeon days. This who she is. Its just FINALLY getting exposed. I can't wait for Ethan to look stupid once ariana discards him like she always does. Prayers to lily and her son.
@@PsychicRenegadeTarotright! No way they are staying together she is gonna move on now that she has him LMFAO he deserves it and wtf would want him knowing what he did hes not at all sexy
@@PsychicRenegadeTarotI hope that too! Just imagine she's healed, happy and healthy with an amazing man who treats her and her child damn well and SpongeBob comes back after he's dropped like another toy of Ariana's and they're like: "you? who are you?" 😂
Ok, but can we stop also the excuse ,,if he/she was cute". Like no, if someone is in relationship he's not yours. You can like them/have crush, but that's it
I honestly wasnt surprised, shes BEEN a homewrecker. She literally made "break up with your girlfriend." I just feel so bad for the mom, she seems sweet and its rough having that happen. Hopefully shes okay and doing alright
Damn, Lilly is so pretty. And until this essay came out, I didn't realize she was also a psychologist. Beauty and brains. She'll be fine without the dead weight as long as he participates in the child's life.
i didnt have a kid THANK THE LORD and my ex husband didnt cheat with a celebrity but we were highschool sweethearts and together for 15 yrs when he cheated on me with a 19 yr old, and that situation was the hardest thing ive ever been through so i cannot imagine it being magnified by a million like in lily js case 😞 i just feel so bad for her.
you deserve so much better you’re lucky you didn’t have a kid with that creeper you deserve someone who actually cares about you and wants to be with you not hitting up the colleges for their freshman’s 🤢🤮
You beautiful soul, never let anyone destroy your ability to be happy and that strength you carry will take you far in life ❤ I’m Happy people like you exist
it’s one thing if ariana and lily were strangers to each other but they literally met each other WITH ethan and hung out like, imagine hanging out and then finding out he wants to divorce you for her… 😐
@ like that’s just dastardly there’s no way to sugarcoat it. the only way this could’ve been justified is if they both already divorced and didn’t like each other anymore, but if it WAS a mutual divorce lily definitely would not have anything to say. this definitely wasn’t a clean breakup and my heart breaks for lily so bad.
Something similar happened to me. Ex was cheating on me with a co-worker who was *married* on her second marriage and a *mother* from her first marriage. We’d all hang out regularly after my ex and I were together for 4 months, for another 7 months… put two and two together after and realized they were fooling around behind her husband’s and I’s backs after that. Mutual friends tried to warn me IN FRONT OF my ex that she’s known to cheat with coworkers and I said to my ex I no longer wanted him to talk to her. It was too late though. He had already made up his mind, always smiling down at his phone and hiding it from me if I came too close. Really weird and was devastating. I was there for him throughout his addiction and were friends for 2 year before we got together… 😑
@ I been a fan for 10 years. Love her but I can also have morals what she did is messed up and lily is better than me. SO MUCH BETTER than me. She took it with grace. Most women would have beat her ass. If it wasn’t ari and your friend who did that. Would you defend it? Probably not. Then why would i defend a woman I don’t know. Apart from what she wants us the audience to know and her music.
And saying it as thinking which D she ride like b!tch that’s not the issue you used your power imbalance and contributing to ruining their relationship. He was married and about to “divorce” you literally dating someone you knew and stuff who has a new born.
It was so sad to hear her say she (understandably) associates the movie with the saddest days of her life. The press for this movie has been insane. She'll see the movie title/Ari's face everywhere she goes. She has to keep reliving the saddest days of her life over again & will for the next year when promo of part 2 comes out. She has to hear millions talk about how much they love it & are excited for it. Not those fans fault btw. She can't escape it & won't for awhile. I hope she's eventually able to move on & live a fulfilling life on her terms
She's so strong because if it was me I'd end up in a psych ward. I cant imagine what it's like watching your ex and his mistress parading each other around, enjoying success while they ruined your life.
Honestly she was too good for him, I know that doesn’t mean much after carrying and birthing a cheaters baby, she’ll still need to process all that. But she always deserved better, looks wise and impact wise. Leaving a pregnant woman dealing with complications alone, wondering why she was not enough. All the while Spongeboy is half a world away canoodling a serial cheater… yuck. Good riddance. She’s beautiful and plenty of men would love to be a stepdad. I hope a honest and kind love finds Lily, I’m sure she’s been through enough and I don’t even know her whole story.
Honestly as someone outside the US who doesn’t really cares about ariana or this movie every time I saw people talking about it I remembered this drama but I thought people had just moved on from it, I hope she’s okay this must be so hard
She is more mature than me , thankfully. I cant imagine how fucked up that is. Having to see her everywhere. I guess u can turn it off as soon as it comes up. Imagine seein those love and light interviews
i feel like stans need to stop putting celebs on this pedestal like saying “ari wouldn’t cheat!!” she’s human she’s not a saint or a perfect being unless someone knows them we shouldn’t just assume because she acts a certain way in the public eye she’d act the same in private that’s what bugs me about stan culture
@@thatcottagecorevampiregood point lol. Homewreckers completely disregard the dating pool because they would rather go after someone who’s already taken
Ugh, so true. I ve read so many stories on reddit, men doing this to their wives when they are pregnant or given birth. Also happened to my mom when she was preganant with me, also experienced dv. Sorry for oversharing😅
Can we stop with "MEN AIN'T ISH" motto. It's lame and s3xist and implies that women do no wrong ever( which is ironic because this video is literally about a woman doing wrong.)
Being a mom who went through postpartum this is so upsetting to see. I've been a fan for years, but this entire situation having been in this woman's shoes is beyond sad.
I lost respect for her when she wrote “Break up with your gf” song… and now this album… rubbing it in Lilly’s face… oh hell no. She isn’t even sorry for it!!! I wish her the worst. What a b to do that to a new mom. 😤
I can't belive there are people who still belive they didn't cheat. They were posting about their partners like 2 months before their relationship started. After working together for many months. You're telling me NOTHING happend before that? You're telling me they filled for divorce and a second later they fell in love? Yea ok.
I assumed she signed an nda or something because she was quiet for so long now. Then again, maybe she decided to step back herself to focus on her and her baby boy. I hope she has a good support system behind her❤
i’ve seen articles saying Ethan and ariana are relieved she didn’t spill more than tha so it’s very evident they are scared of her to drop details of the affair
She luckily has her brothers supporting her and sharing her article and liking comments that support her! Just like Dalton (Ariana's ex-husband)has his sister defending him since the beginning until now
It’s wild how many people infantilize her and act like she isn’t a grown woman that made her own choices here. She is responsible for her OWN actions just as much as Ethan is. This whole oh, “she’s not married to her, she doesn’t owe the wife anything, she isn’t to blame” excuse is appalling. Dumping the entire blame on the cheating man but not the woman that intentionally played a part in it is pure narcissism imo. We as women need to stop enabling this and start taking accountability for our own behavior instead of deflecting and blame shifting. It’s not feminist behavior to knowingly sleep with somebody’s husband, this is possibly one of the most hurtful and disrespectful things you can do to another woman. You don’t need to have relations with anybody to show common decency and some respect, treat others how you want to be treated.
It doesn't matter who you blame as long as it is the wrong one. Lilly could have learnt how to make Ethan's favorite food but she decided to order take out. She could have tied him round her little finger but she sent him to take the trash out and he saw the take out boxes spilling out on the curb.
This isn't the 1st time. Naya Rivera was engaged to Big Sean when Ariana got with him. Naya then asked her baby father to marry her since they had a child and everything had already been paid for. She kept the wedding date, the gifts, just a different man.
@@abbied yeah I see something happened to her she’s not speaking of and trauma either makes u feed your bad side or ur good side… she chose the bad side
And people still don’t think that Ariana and Ethan filing for divorce/separation so close together was not calculated to save face about them cheating on their partners🤦♀️ we weren’t born yesterday
Right, like you had to have something going on to even get to that point of filling for divorce and then getting together publicly. Especially since he was with his wife for what, 10 years? And all of a sudden, he files for divorce a few days after Ari. We're not stupid.
I don’t care if they are together but he NEEDS to take care of his child. Pay child support, co parent, etc. I hate that the mother was just left behind.
@ZoraSingsohh Well Lily even said despite their divorce, her and Ethan "Love their son fiercely and without question." So according to her he still loves and cares for their son. Plus him and his girlfriend are wealthy, so of course he is going to financially take care of his son and ex wife.
As an Arianator for many years of my life, I cannot defend her on this. This is a whole other level of calculating and the complete disregard for a new mother. Of course, Ethan Slater himself is also to blame, but it’s disturbing as hell that Ariana KNEW full well that he had a wife who had JUST given birth.
I actually find it funny that Victoria Justice went through a decade worth hate train over a sentence, while Ariana is doing this and still applauded 😃
Unfortunately ive been in Lilly’s position before, minus the famousness and publicity of the situation. She must feel so betrayed by Ethan. Ariana is not a nice person and I don’t need to have a personal interaction with her to know that. I can’t support her or Ethan in anything that they do honestly. It’s just weird and gross to have them be lifted up while someone suffers because of there decisions. I’m not saying Lilly is suffering because I think she’s handled everything very well but regardless. They’re not the kind of people I want to see or follow.
Also I don’t get the whole I’m still supporting because of the music even though she’s participated in hurting another person. No. Do you, but absolutely not over this way. Plenty of other artists to support.
Even her class and her professionalism is testament enough to who she is. I hear a woman who is deeply hurt and has every right to crash out but she expressed herself in such a beautiful way. I hope she finds peace without SpongeBob and Ariana Latte over there. She should probably take time for herself but I hope when the time comes she finds a man who will give her the world. She doesn't need it but she definitely deserves it.
I was also a newborn baby when a woman decided to sleep with my father knowing that he has a family. My mother filed for divorce immediately and that woman later on married my father. 20 years has passed and there wasn't a single day without my father regretting his choice and consequences of it. I don't understand the people who wish well for both of them. It's so sad and outraging. This feeling of your own father choosing something else over you and the family you could've had never leaves you alone. I still stay up at nights thinking how it could've been.
Justice for Lily. I can’t imagine being with someone for more than a decade, marrying him & having his child, only for him to fall head over heels and give everything up for a random co worker. And now that wicked is out everyone’s acting like he’s such a sweetheart just cause of his interviews. Reminder that these celebs will only show you the side of them they WANT you to see. He’s a cheater & my heart also goes out to his child who will learn why their parents divorced once they’re older & the kind of person their dad is
They are both at fault, but I think Ethan is more at fault because he knew he had a new baby at home and a wife who went through a traumatic birth. The fact that he even entertained the idea of stepping out on that is DISGOSTANG
@@chicken_nugget_fugget1472 Thank you. It bothers me that misogyny runs deep and people are always blaming the woman for "homewrecking" (even looking through these comments) but while Ariana cheated, Ethan wrecked a home.
no there both evil bruh ariana hung out with lilly and held their BABY like she knew what she was doing and still decided to go after him. That’s why it’s both bad on both sides. If ariana didn’t know lilly or even she existed it would’ve been different but let’s not act like ariana is innocent when she’s KNOWN to do this. That’s why.
@@floral-smoke yes but your saying ethan is “more at fault” when they both willingly knew what they were doing. They are both at fault entirely not one or the other.
Slater and Grande are both equally disgusting for this in my opinion. I'm embarrassed to have been a fan of her. To write a song like 'yes, and?' and jubilate in causing such pain for Lily Jay and then the next minute turn on fake waterworks for sympathy is so calculatedly cruel. The level of dignity, self-respect and restraint Lily Jay has is impressive. I think one day Slater will wake up and see that not all that glitters is gold and he has made a terrible mistake. By the time that happens I imagine Lily Jay will have a better man who is loyal and doesn't resemble a malnourished garden gnome.
I can’t even imagine spending 10 years with someone, supporting his career, giving birth to his child, moving thousands of miles away from my support system with a two month old as I’m in my most vulnerable place as a new parent and all the while my significant other, who I’ve sacrificed everything for, is falling in love with his costar and planning his divorce to me and not looking back. Just….there is NO justifying this. NONE.
Lily actually keeps it classy. unlike ariana , she's educated and so articulate. Makes sense why Ariana was using big words she doesn't even understand In a interviews to seem even close to being as articulate as lily. Disgusting.
i agree. what's funny is ariana always swears a lot, but back in this very interview when she tried to sound smart like lily jay, she didn't swear. 😂😂😂😂😂 it gets to show ariana was quite aware of lily's intelligence and was insecure about it
She has a habit of messing with other people's men. I don't think it will last; she seems to be the kind that likes to get what she wants and quickly moves on when bored. Edit: Ari did meet her, Lilly said this in her first post ever. She even met his kid!!!!! Right before they got caught.
I know it’s not gonna last for Ariana she’s indecisive and sneaky, so after the next wicked movie comes out I’m sure she’ll be done with him. It is for nothing sadly, and I feel bad for Lilly and hope she doesn’t go back to him after.
@ i agree but I feel like she’s gotten so much backlash in her past as well as now, and she’s immune to caring atp and will do what she wants regardless.
As someone who used to be a die hard fan, this situation made me stop supporting her. I couldn’t even go see the movie because that situation would just be in the back of my mind. She smiled in that lady’s face while HOLDING her baby, meanwhile she was messing with her husband.
lol there’s a girl who homewrecked me, she does lashes and nails all that stuff for WOMEN. And she texted me she was a girls girl then deleted the message but I saw it 😂 I was like at least she knows she ain’t.
There's a girl who homewrecked me (married with a kid at the time) as well, she's always posting shit about loyalty on fb. The last thing she posted that had me cracking up was about "everyone is the villian in someone's story" and I'm just trying not to act up. I stg she's trying me
cheating after his wife gave birth is enough... but after she almost died giving birth to your child?!?!?!?!? i could not be attracted to a man like that..
I feel like her characters song Popular from wicked is so ironic given people keep obsessing with her irl even thou she has a shady history of being the other woman. People will always continue to stan her because she’s beautiful, charming, and talented. (that’s what we mostly see from social medias) NOW that being said fuck that SpongeBob guy too these men are equally weak n nasty but she has been a common denominator too many times at this point. wicked behavior I feel..
With all the Wicked hype, most people are now fawning over Ariana and Ethan. Ofc we don't know what happened, but people need to stop putting celebrities on a pedestal. Yes, Ethan made the choice to cheat on his wife and wreck his home, but Ariana isn't blameless either. She has shown a behaviour of going after committed men.
I’ve been seeing some clips from the Wicked press tour of Ariana and Cynthia and I must say (I really really agree) like how she was touching Cynthia’s fingers in that one interview (they’re very very touchy-feely with each other tbh) 😮😮😮😮
Do you think it’s possible that Ariana and Cynthia hooked up with each other too? (I really don’t know for sure about Ariana, but I read that Cynthia is bi so it’s not out of the question I don’t think tbh)
Ariana Grande fans have to realize you can still call out your favs for their horrible behavior, like at least acknowledge that she's done so many wrongs. You don't have to defend everything they do.
I agree, you can like somebody and not agree with what they do all the time. It’s the same concept for family members or friends, you’re not gonna like everything they do.
I won’t ever go see Wicked because I don’t want to support Ariana in any way. It’s a shame because I love that musical, but I can’t condone her behavior. What she did was vile
Ariana is too selfish to bring life into this world 😂let alone let the baby use/ “ruin” her body 😅. She’s just having her fun with Ethan. It will be over soon.
I really am trying to put this respectfully for the sake of others who may see this that are struggling with an eating disorder, but Ariana is visibly anorexic and has been for years. She has so little body fat it’s almost guaranteed that her fertility is nonexistent at such a low weight. I hope she gets help because everyone deserves to recover, but she seems to have no interest in recovery (or honesty in general) at all.
@@CherishTheePetersen Yeah, I agree with you on this but her fans believe what she told them about this (a.k.a. the gaslighting she did on this topic) and think there’s nothing wrong apparently (very very sad) 😥
We all have to understand how parasocial relationships work. As fans, we like their art and their expression, not the person. We've never met these celebrities before, and even if we have, we don't have personal relationships with them. Supporters/fans need to understand that and hold them accountable when they exhibit bad behaviour.
Can you tell that to the Selena Gomez's fans? I tried to tell them that but they get so mad at me for saying the same things lmao. I know this is a Ariana Grande video but I think the same lesson can be provided to Selena's fans and also every other celebrity. We only know the facades celebrities put on, not who they really are in their privacy of their homes.
Well not quite. A regular fan likes someone’s art and expression. A parasocial relationship is when a fan extends more time and emotional energy into the artist. Caring about who ariana dates, her drama, what she does wrong, etc is investing more in her as a person than just her art. If you’re just a fan of the art, then you can choose to keep buying her art or not. The very act of criticizing Ariana outside of her art is parasocial. It’s also parasocial to think it’s the job of strangers to hold her accountable for ruining a family
Lily Jay was so poised and well-spoken in her essay. She is educated and highly intelligent and her career specializes in helping women. Ariana literally could NEVERRRRR. We should all be looking up to women like Lily Jay , not women like Ariana. Look up to the people Ariana could only DREAM to be like.
people defending and stanning homewreckers is nothing new. Look at Marilyn Monroe and the horrible way she treated Jackie. Angelina and Brad. Heck, in Elizabeth and Richard's cases, their affair served to make them MORE popular.
Honestly, Ariana has always been referenced as the other woman in people's breakup stories. I forgotten her name, but the actress on glee that died few years back also mentioned ariana grande's name as one of the reasons she broke up with her partner. I swear, i believe that woman has a kink for these kind of situations.
I read so many strange comments on Twitter(X) saying “why should I care it’s not my business” “it wasn’t a house if he was easy to steal” just defending Ariana and I couldn’t help but wish that one day it happens to them and nobody cares, I saw someone say we’re in a “empathy epidemic” and it’s so true, like obviously you don’t have to stop listening to her music but harassing the wife and just saying that Ariana can do nothing wrong is horrible. Like yall are crazy, we do not know these celebrities, who knows what she’s like irl. You loose them how you got them for real, and one day it’ll happen to her. And yes it takes two to tango, so I’m not just blaming Ethan but I’m not going to not blame Ariana either. Her morals are horrible but without Ariana(or any homewrecker) this wouldn’t have happened. Let someone Arianators didn’t like do this, yes, they would absolutely drag them. And I don’t get the switch up from the fans, they shouldn’t want Ariana with that man, what if he hurts her worse then they’ll be crying and throwing a fit about that too. And people say “they divorced before that” but they knew each other so what happened that made them want to be with each other to divorce their partners, like are you dumb. Something had to happen, it’s emotional cheating at that point
I know that sounds mean, but like the dude doesn’t sound like all that great of a person either anyways (a serial cheater) so his personality doesn’t sound like it compensates for his facial challengedness (if you know what I mean) 😂
I think what most upsets me in this is that… is so bloody common. And so many people just brush it off, normalize it, like is no big deal. The same people talk about human rights, feminism, animal welfare, powerful people’s behavior, war crimes etc. because criticizing about injustices and harmful things humanity does is easy, but doing just the bare effing minimum that is respecting your wife and kid, or a stranger period.. then suddenly ‘oh wow, chill out, everyone’s human, no one is perfect’, like it’s so freaking impossible to go through the first step of human decency. I guess it’s all bs then, we’re doomed..
i’m all for the ex wife speaking up this entire thing is the EXACT reason i will never be watching that trash wicked movie i don’t wanna even hear their voices bro im so disgusted by that entire cast they all seem so incredibly fake id much rather watch the original broadway musical i refuse to put money in those kinds of pockets 🤢🤢🤢
A lot of women multiple costars of Ariana grande have said she is stuck up and thinks everything is about her. Like no ur disgusting. Jhene Aiko made a song about Ariana speak about her being suicidal cuz she likes to go after men in relationships. She is not a nice person she acts like that on the internet.
I don’t think ya’ll understand.. even if Ethan WAS single, I would be turned off by a man with a 2 month old..like go take care of your son and support the woman who just pushed out a human for you!!! The fact that Ariana doesn’t care about that is so gross
21:13 The immediate OPPA GANGNAM STYLE after “one of the psy’s I can’t remember” I SCREAMED 💀 Keisha you kill me, you have no right being so hilarious off top
It's not only the cheating, it's the fact that ariana and ethan are EVERYWHERE now because of wicked. Like it's such a nightmare, you can't escape those who hurt you so bad and the rest of the world absolutely loves them. I'd go mad tbh
Heads up - apologies for the audio in today’s video I accidentally clicked the echo button on my microphone so it may sound a lil weird.. will get it better for next time ofc ❤ see you in the next video
-Keisha
it's ok it adds to the vibe lol
it's like you're communicating from the afterlife
it sounded like you were preaching at the lectern and i love it 😭
@@theanonsistersomggg, i thought the same thing! god forbid of course, but i actually lowkey love it
hey keisha, theres a typo in the thumbnail, it says EX-Girlfriend instead of EX-Wife
I have literally stopped being friends with women who sleep with married men. It just shows poor character
yess and poor judgment
I’m 56 and have felt like you all my adult life. It’s not hard to avoid sitting on the dick of a man who’s in a relationship. I’ve never been unfaithful even when my relationships have been ending, and I’ve had plenty of opportunities because men are hounds.
Absolutely. Thank you for having integrity!
Absolutely plus it's only a matter of time bf they start doing slick stuff to you
Exactly! There’s that whole saying too. “Birds of a feather, flock together.” I do not want to be caught up in that type of crowd 😭
It’s giving cognitive dissonance to watch Ariana Grande in Wicked interviews, where she’s all sweetness and light, shouting ‘I love you,’ ‘thank you,’ and love-bombing everyone on set. She’s crafted this angelic persona for the role, but knowing what she did to someone behind the scenes makes it feel hollow. How do you make kindness your brand while brutally disregarding another woman’s feelings-especially a postpartum woman-after meeting her and her baby?
The bonding between her and Cynthia doesn’t feel like ‘soul sisters’ to me; it comes off as performative, something that will fade when they’re done promoting Wicked. Ariana cries at every opportunity to show how emotional and sensitive she is, but where’s that emotion when it comes to empathy or guilt for the harm she caused? It feels like selective sensitivity: emotional when it serves her narrative, but not when it comes to real accountability.
Oh you ate her up !!!!
preach
I thought maybe they were on e lmao nope. Just over the top fake i love everyone ❤️ crap . Yeah im sure you loved his wife omfg
It's sad because Wicked was actually a good movie.. but all this BTS stuff is very cringe.
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I find it so disturbing that any woman would willingly decide to cheat with a man that recently had a newborn baby. The lack of empathy is astounding , it's like Ariana has never been told no in her life, so shes probably never been held accountable. Women that are indifferent to the suffering of other women and think they've one-upped them always find out the hard way eventually.
Happened to me. And now that girl is knocked up and about to get ALL her karma right back as that man dogs her out!! 🙃
She’s extremely insecure, that’s why they need to one up another women. They need it for validation , to prove they are worthy. Ariana is disgusting
And hold the newborn and say I wish I could have a baby. It’s absolutely disgusting.
Ariana is a serial cheater and homewrecker
@@Zumzizeroo17mmmhmmm!! More like “I wish I could have your man” 👀
to know your wife has a life threatening condition, has a newborn and is moving to a different city to be with you, and you decide to cheat on her is so vile. Let alone bringing the woman your cheating with to meet your wife and hang out together with your baby while shes clueless. Ethan and Ariana both deserve the worst karma omfg
Which life threatening condition did she have? (Just asking) thank you
@@abbied Lilly Jay had Eclampsia. Eclampsia mainly causes epilepsy in pregnant women with Preeclampsia. Preeclampsia is consistent high blood pressure that happens either during pregnancy or during the 4th trimester (also known as the postpartum period that occurs after delivery of the baby). Eclampsia can occur during labor which can be life threatening to the mother and/or baby. Eclampsia is rare as it affects less than 1% of pregnant women but it can be very deadly if medical attention isn’t immediately given. I hope this helps!
@ilooooovekrabbypatties It helps (thank you) omg, she had to go through all of that alone? (There’s a special place in hell for Ethan Slater fr fr) 😭😭😭😭
@@abbied Fr!! Lily’s story hurt me to my heart. It makes my heart break for all of the women who have been in that devastating situation. I usually don’t wish bad things on anyone as it goes against my values, but karma is coming. Karma is coming.
@ilooooovekrabbypatties God will have his vengeance on both Ariana and Ethan “looks like Frankie Grande” Slater 🙏🏻
People need to understand that having a talent doesn’t mean you are inherently a good person
⬆️ This one. Comment of the year right here. 🙌🏾💯
like have we not seen azealia banks
Exactly. There's something called the Halo effect where we basically assume that when someone is attractive, talented, etc. they're also good people. They're literally just people who got lucky with the genetic lottery. We have to stop putting celebrities on a pedestal, we don't know this woman
we are taught this from childhood - pretty princess sings w a beautiful voice, is surrounded by animals and kind heatred, good characters are pretty w just few exceptions
Her annoying “fans” need to understand that. Babes, we don’t CARE how much you love her voice and music
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Lmfao she’s a horrible human. Find a new idol.. maybe GOD? He’s a way better person to “idolize”
As a married woman about to give birth, there’s a special place in HELL for any man abandoning his wife after she made that sacrifice 💔
Safe deliveries momma ❤🤰❤️
Good luck with the delivery ❤❤❤
Wishing you a smooth delivery & healthy baby 💗
I wish you a smooth and speedy delivery! ❤
Wishing you a safe delivery 🌻
The way Ariana had a whole husband to herself only to leave him for someone who was also married is astounding.
F’ing psycho isn’t it? Lol!
There's some old aphorism that's like 'a cheater will cheat on you even if you are everything they want'. It doesn't matter how long you've been with the cheater or how 'perfect' the relationship seemed. If they're the type of person to do that, there is nothing you can do to 'be enough'.
@@saiyamoru And he cheated on her before he cheated with Ariana too anyways (so you know….. yeah) 😥🤧
Her husband cheated on her, so Ariana got another man to cheat on his wife with her. I'd love to pick her therapist's brain.
@@abbied yeah he had a girl he cheated on with Ari. she posted " when u see ur ex with the girl he told u not to worry about lol. he got what he asked for
The fact that Ariana thought that she can get away with home wrecking a family shows that she doesn’t care, she’s not a girls girl, and she only thinks about herself and what she wants. I hope lily is doing well with her child and I hope Ethan gets his karma too because he’s also at fault.
I highly doubt he will stay with Arianna forever their relationship will eventually end and when it does he'll have to deal with the fact he gave up a stable family to date a celebrity in a relationship he knew wasn't gonna last
@@talesfromatiredmind4785she will eventually cheat on him or leave him for another man, like she always does😭
She really is Glinda 😂
thank you, too many people forget Ethan is the one truly at fault because he's just not very remarkable.
@@HoneyB-n7jsame cycle every time
I used to be an Ariana STAN. I was also cheated on right after giving birth. Since the second I saw what was going on and saw her comment about Ari not being a girls girl..I have refused to consume any Ariana content. I will never listen to that homewrecker again, just seeing her gives my body a physical reaction now because of my own trauma. The pain i went through during that time, I know that poor Mom went through x10 and I wouldn't wish that on an enemy. It damaged me so much I've been single for eight years and will never trust another man again in my life. I can't imagine if I had to see the girl my ex cheated with all the time, I don't think I would still be here on this earth.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you can find someone who truly deserves you and treats you and your kids well. ❤
🫂 heartbreaking 💔 ❤. Sending all my love and solidarity, Nichol in Colorado
agreed, i ll wait until wicked is streaming- we all know what really happened- and they DOUBLE DATED!!!!!!!!! i cannot even imagine knowing you went to DINNER with the woman your husband is cheating on you with, i think i would be physically ill once i realized- i mean in front of the wife basically....really bad behavior...
Never been a relastionship but anyone who cheats on a pregnant woman and the one they cheated on, I feel my blood boiling, its been 1 ywar i havent heard a single Ariana song
@@foreverwins WHAT DOUBLE DATED? OMG I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS THAT BAD. I DON'T KEEP UP WITH THE DRAMA BUT TF????
I dont understand how "girls' girl" is a saying because it's just being a decent human being. It's the bare minimum that a woman can do for another woman, and for some reason, that's celebrated 😭😭
Yeah, which is sad, goes to show how nasty women are to each other. It says a lot when you see comments defending her behavior here and dismissing the wife’s negative reaction towards both of them. Like oh, just be mad at your man. She has every right to be upset with her as well, I’m starting to think the people endorsing this behavior are side chicks themselves 🤔
You hit the target with this one!!! 👏🏽👏🏽 Louder for the back!! 📢
I fully agree, it's also sad that this implies that men can't control themselves and that we want/need other women to do the decent thing for another woman and not sleep with her man. It sickens me that that's pretty much the nature of people/men? I want to think it's not but there's just too much evidence..
@@chicken_nugget_fugget1472They are
@@bogbunswell, respect should come from within ourselves, amongst ourselves, and from men too. No self-respecting woman would ever do something like this to other women. I haven’t seen one side chick that isn’t actually an insecure bottom feeder yet.
The way her fans are jumping through hoops to defend her lol and mind u ariana has been doing this since the Nickelodeon days. This who she is. Its just FINALLY getting exposed. I can't wait for Ethan to look stupid once ariana discards him like she always does. Prayers to lily and her son.
Agreed. Ariana has a past of doing this with other committed men too. Ethan wrecked his own home but Ariana isn't blameless either.
I hope Lilly finds a richer hotter loyal man to spoil her and SpongeBob ends up alone as no woman is gonna want THAT once Ari discards him. 😂😂😂
One of their fans acknowledged it and doesn't care they'll continue to defend her and slander anyone who's speaks out the truth.
@@PsychicRenegadeTarotright! No way they are staying together she is gonna move on now that she has him LMFAO he deserves it and wtf would want him knowing what he did hes not at all sexy
@@PsychicRenegadeTarotI hope that too! Just imagine she's healed, happy and healthy with an amazing man who treats her and her child damn well and SpongeBob comes back after he's dropped like another toy of Ariana's and they're like: "you? who are you?" 😂
Ok, but can we stop also the excuse ,,if he/she was cute". Like no, if someone is in relationship he's not yours. You can like them/have crush, but that's it
It’s just a bit more understandable is all, but still unacceptable for sure.
💯💯💯 people should try their best to remove themselves from the situation
She made him hers lol
@@Vampirita447And that's supposed to be a flex??
@@Vampirita447 and she can keep him. scumbag meets scumbag, they suit each other.
I honestly wasnt surprised, shes BEEN a homewrecker. She literally made "break up with your girlfriend." I just feel so bad for the mom, she seems sweet and its rough having that happen. Hopefully shes okay and doing alright
Not to mention after her home wrecking was made public she released yes and she's not sorry I'm disgusted honestly
Damn, Lilly is so pretty. And until this essay came out, I didn't realize she was also a psychologist. Beauty and brains. She'll be fine without the dead weight as long as he participates in the child's life.
i didnt have a kid THANK THE LORD and my ex husband didnt cheat with a celebrity but we were highschool sweethearts and together for 15 yrs when he cheated on me with a 19 yr old, and that situation was the hardest thing ive ever been through so i cannot imagine it being magnified by a million like in lily js case 😞 i just feel so bad for her.
Off topic but love the pfp, also I am so sorry that happened to you 🩵 with a 19 y/o is just extremely weird…
Same same. It happened to me and I was pregnant. 😭Those women deserve hell.
you deserve so much better you’re lucky you didn’t have a kid with that creeper you deserve someone who actually cares about you and wants to be with you not hitting up the colleges for their freshman’s 🤢🤮
You beautiful soul, never let anyone destroy your ability to be happy and that strength you carry will take you far in life ❤ I’m Happy people like you exist
@@iaintookthatbb6599U don’t even know her 😭
it’s one thing if ariana and lily were strangers to each other but they literally met each other WITH ethan and hung out like, imagine hanging out and then finding out he wants to divorce you for her… 😐
and u know the whole time they were hanging out ethan and ariana were cheating behind her back, at the very least emotionally but probably more
@ like that’s just dastardly there’s no way to sugarcoat it. the only way this could’ve been justified is if they both already divorced and didn’t like each other anymore, but if it WAS a mutual divorce lily definitely would not have anything to say. this definitely wasn’t a clean breakup and my heart breaks for lily so bad.
Something similar happened to me. Ex was cheating on me with a co-worker who was *married* on her second marriage and a *mother* from her first marriage. We’d all hang out regularly after my ex and I were together for 4 months, for another 7 months… put two and two together after and realized they were fooling around behind her husband’s and I’s backs after that. Mutual friends tried to warn me IN FRONT OF my ex that she’s known to cheat with coworkers and I said to my ex I no longer wanted him to talk to her. It was too late though. He had already made up his mind, always smiling down at his phone and hiding it from me if I came too close. Really weird and was devastating. I was there for him throughout his addiction and were friends for 2 year before we got together… 😑
Ariana is a psychopath
This happened to me too 😢 His coworker I was postpartum.
I’m tired of the arianators defending ariana😭.
@@arianabutera2010she’s a dirty gremlin. Chronic Home wrecker, narcissist, and a horrible role model.
Yeah you're profile and name speaks for itself
@ I been a fan for 10 years. Love her but I can also have morals what she did is messed up and lily is better than me. SO MUCH BETTER than me. She took it with grace. Most women would have beat her ass. If it wasn’t ari and your friend who did that. Would you defend it? Probably not. Then why would i defend a woman I don’t know. Apart from what she wants us the audience to know and her music.
@@arianabutera2010 she’s a dirty gremlin. Chronic Home wrecker, narcissist, and a horrible role model.
@Unknownartist-qo7ne because shes a woman or a person of color? We all know Ariana Stan’s hate both…
Being a certified homewrecker with no remorse is disgusting
Fs
And saying it as thinking which D she ride like b!tch that’s not the issue you used your power imbalance and contributing to ruining their relationship. He was married and about to “divorce” you literally dating someone you knew and stuff who has a new born.
If he was single, I have the feeling Ariana would not have even been interested in him.
Exactly
It was so sad to hear her say she (understandably) associates the movie with the saddest days of her life. The press for this movie has been insane. She'll see the movie title/Ari's face everywhere she goes. She has to keep reliving the saddest days of her life over again & will for the next year when promo of part 2 comes out. She has to hear millions talk about how much they love it & are excited for it. Not those fans fault btw. She can't escape it & won't for awhile. I hope she's eventually able to move on & live a fulfilling life on her terms
She's so strong because if it was me I'd end up in a psych ward. I cant imagine what it's like watching your ex and his mistress parading each other around, enjoying success while they ruined your life.
the amount of over the top advertising everywhere for this. I genuinely feel so sorry for Lily.
Honestly she was too good for him, I know that doesn’t mean much after carrying and birthing a cheaters baby, she’ll still need to process all that. But she always deserved better, looks wise and impact wise. Leaving a pregnant woman dealing with complications alone, wondering why she was not enough. All the while Spongeboy is half a world away canoodling a serial cheater… yuck. Good riddance. She’s beautiful and plenty of men would love to be a stepdad. I hope a honest and kind love finds Lily, I’m sure she’s been through enough and I don’t even know her whole story.
Honestly as someone outside the US who doesn’t really cares about ariana or this movie every time I saw people talking about it I remembered this drama but I thought people had just moved on from it, I hope she’s okay this must be so hard
She is more mature than me , thankfully. I cant imagine how fucked up that is. Having to see her everywhere. I guess u can turn it off as soon as it comes up. Imagine seein those love and light interviews
i feel like stans need to stop putting celebs on this pedestal like saying “ari wouldn’t cheat!!” she’s human she’s not a saint or a perfect being unless someone knows them we shouldn’t just assume because she acts a certain way in the public eye she’d act the same in private that’s what bugs me about stan culture
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So many people these days are co-signing home wrecking and deadbeat behavior, and then wondering why the dating pool is full of 💩💩💩.
Exactly. Bring back standards!!! 😩
no, I'm pretty sure 0 homewreckers are sitting around wondering why the dating pool is bad, rofl
@@thatcottagecorevampiregood point lol. Homewreckers completely disregard the dating pool because they would rather go after someone who’s already taken
HE LOOKS SO MUCH LIKE FRANKIE OMFG I'D CRY IF MY BF LOOK LIKE MY BROTHER😭
No fr it would be enough to make me leave them cos once I see if I wouldn’t be able to unsee it lol
it’s really giving “siblings or dating”
... They really don't tho 😭
😂😂😂😂 It’s giving she’s got a complex. 🫢🤫🤮
Lots to unpack at the therapy
when i found out she almost died giving birth to THEIR child? i was just like wOw men really aint shit its so sad
men think only with their dickzz, nothing new
Ugh, so true. I ve read so many stories on reddit, men doing this to their wives when they are pregnant or given birth. Also happened to my mom when she was preganant with me, also experienced dv. Sorry for oversharing😅
Can we stop with "MEN AIN'T ISH" motto. It's lame and s3xist and implies that women do no wrong ever( which is ironic because this video is literally about a woman doing wrong.)
Being a mom who went through postpartum this is so upsetting to see. I've been a fan for years, but this entire situation having been in this woman's shoes is beyond sad.
I lost respect for her when she wrote “Break up with your gf” song… and now this album… rubbing it in Lilly’s face… oh hell no. She isn’t even sorry for it!!! I wish her the worst. What a b to do that to a new mom. 😤
I can't belive there are people who still belive they didn't cheat. They were posting about their partners like 2 months before their relationship started. After working together for many months. You're telling me NOTHING happend before that? You're telling me they filled for divorce and a second later they fell in love? Yea ok.
No bc like the divorce went about so suddenly as well. So it adds up
Studies are showing that parasocial people are not very bright.
People so badly want Ariana to not be a bad guy but she is, she really is
I assumed she signed an nda or something because she was quiet for so long now. Then again, maybe she decided to step back herself to focus on her and her baby boy. I hope she has a good support system behind her❤
well i think during the divorce trials she has been signed off and silenced which is why she’s held back with a lot of details in her statement
i’ve seen articles saying Ethan and ariana are relieved she didn’t spill more than tha so it’s very evident they are scared of her to drop details of the affair
She luckily has her brothers supporting her and sharing her article and liking comments that support her! Just like Dalton (Ariana's ex-husband)has his sister defending him since the beginning until now
The was an NDA. It ended when the movie came out.
Literal jump scare @18:15 . Damn…that’s an unfortunate face that had the NERVE to cheat smh
It’s wild how many people infantilize her and act like she isn’t a grown woman that made her own choices here. She is responsible for her OWN actions just as much as Ethan is. This whole oh, “she’s not married to her, she doesn’t owe the wife anything, she isn’t to blame” excuse is appalling. Dumping the entire blame on the cheating man but not the woman that intentionally played a part in it is pure narcissism imo. We as women need to stop enabling this and start taking accountability for our own behavior instead of deflecting and blame shifting. It’s not feminist behavior to knowingly sleep with somebody’s husband, this is possibly one of the most hurtful and disrespectful things you can do to another woman. You don’t need to have relations with anybody to show common decency and some respect, treat others how you want to be treated.
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Amen
YES! 🙌🏽
I see so many comments like this from "feminists, girls girl" like whatt?! What the hell happened to sisterhood?
It doesn't matter who you blame as long as it is the wrong one. Lilly could have learnt how to make Ethan's favorite food but she decided to order take out. She could have tied him round her little finger but she sent him to take the trash out and he saw the take out boxes spilling out on the curb.
Lily is a class act, the way she articulated the situation is admirable
This isn't the 1st time. Naya Rivera was engaged to Big Sean when Ariana got with him. Naya then asked her baby father to marry her since they had a child and everything had already been paid for. She kept the wedding date, the gifts, just a different man.
Until they sadly split up too
I don’t think she kept the date… she didn’t have the baby then. If you read her book, she met the father of her child after the Big Sean breakup.
we been knew ariana is not a girls girl since jennette mccurdy talked about her
This!
Yeah (she treated her horribly) 🤧
wait what happened
I think that was a different scenario, but this is true that she may have a thread of dishonesty/advantage that goes on as you grow older e
Ditto
Ariana doesn’t behave like a woman in her 30s. That’s awful to break someone’s relationship especially there’s a family involved.
This
She was one of Dan Schneider’s victims (not justifying her behavior, just trying to help explain)
@@abbied yeah I see something happened to her she’s not speaking of and trauma either makes u feed your bad side or ur good side… she chose the bad side
@@AlanaLanaaMoore Sad 😥🤧
Facts but if it wasn’t Ariana it would’ve been some other girl no
And people still don’t think that Ariana and Ethan filing for divorce/separation so close together was not calculated to save face about them cheating on their partners🤦♀️ we weren’t born yesterday
Right, like you had to have something going on to even get to that point of filling for divorce and then getting together publicly. Especially since he was with his wife for what, 10 years? And all of a sudden, he files for divorce a few days after Ari. We're not stupid.
Ariana husband cheat on her too….before she cheat on him so…
I don’t care if they are together but he NEEDS to take care of his child. Pay child support, co parent, etc. I hate that the mother was just left behind.
Lily cares. He ruined her life.
He does obviously
@ it’s not that obvious when you just up and leave your family 😭
@ZoraSingsohh Well Lily even said despite their divorce, her and Ethan "Love their son fiercely and without question." So according to her he still loves and cares for their son. Plus him and his girlfriend are wealthy, so of course he is going to financially take care of his son and ex wife.
As an Arianator for many years of my life, I cannot defend her on this. This is a whole other level of calculating and the complete disregard for a new mother. Of course, Ethan Slater himself is also to blame, but it’s disturbing as hell that Ariana KNEW full well that he had a wife who had JUST given birth.
I think Ariana gets off on thisbis some pathological way. She's sick.
@@catkin-z8gyou are seriously delusional. Get help.
I actually find it funny that Victoria Justice went through a decade worth hate train over a sentence, while Ariana is doing this and still applauded 😃
Honestly
EXACTLY
Facts
That's cause Ari was sleeping with the producers , that's also why they kept putting her in every episode doing sexual stuff
Real, I've been saying for years that the Victoria Justice hate made no sense.
I pray a 6’5” man find lily🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Agreed!
If read in the wrong context, that might seem like a threat 🤭🤭🤭😂😂😂
I pray she finds happiness and a real man for her baby to call dad 😊
With a trust fund and a good heart ❤️
Yess!
I’m so glad Lily decided to write about this experience.
Same (she’s helping so many women with this) bless her 🤧💕
Unfortunately ive been in Lilly’s position before, minus the famousness and publicity of the situation. She must feel so betrayed by Ethan. Ariana is not a nice person and I don’t need to have a personal interaction with her to know that. I can’t support her or Ethan in anything that they do honestly. It’s just weird and gross to have them be lifted up while someone suffers because of there decisions. I’m not saying Lilly is suffering because I think she’s handled everything very well but regardless. They’re not the kind of people I want to see or follow.
Also I don’t get the whole I’m still supporting because of the music even though she’s participated in hurting another person. No. Do you, but absolutely not over this way. Plenty of other artists to support.
@alexiabooth3893 yea ive been in Lilys shoes, I had to stop listening to Ariana's music when everything came out. Just feels gross to me.
I’m tired of fans being in denial that she’s not a good person.
THANK YOU 😭😭😭😭
Oh they’re 100% not in denial. Ariana could be a wanted felon and they would go to their grave defending her like Ariana pays their bills. SMH
Blinddddddd 🤡🤡🤡🤡’s
Lilly is the kind of woman young girls should aspire to. Not Ariana.
If her husband is this slimey- I hope it turns in her favor and she finds a way better man!! Let Nasty Ari have that lil weasel. 🤮
GENUINELY
Lily is articulate, beautiful, and elegant. The sponge downgraded bad.
@@ashcruz904u know he didn’t downgrade tho he upgraded he is with Ariana the wife is most likely an Ariana wanna be
Even her class and her professionalism is testament enough to who she is. I hear a woman who is deeply hurt and has every right to crash out but she expressed herself in such a beautiful way. I hope she finds peace without SpongeBob and Ariana Latte over there. She should probably take time for herself but I hope when the time comes she finds a man who will give her the world. She doesn't need it but she definitely deserves it.
I think it's a big deal because Ariana has said that she is a feminist in the past.
Which we now know she’s not. Performative at best.
I’m so glad she got to write this bc even though i already was feeling for her this helped me to understand her situation even more
If I'm lilly, i would sue for emotional distress
And get full custody over my son fr🤦🏾♀️😞 I don’t believe in excluding a parent from a child’s life, but in this case it might be needed.
I was also a newborn baby when a woman decided to sleep with my father knowing that he has a family. My mother filed for divorce immediately and that woman later on married my father. 20 years has passed and there wasn't a single day without my father regretting his choice and consequences of it. I don't understand the people who wish well for both of them. It's so sad and outraging. This feeling of your own father choosing something else over you and the family you could've had never leaves you alone. I still stay up at nights thinking how it could've been.
I’m so sorry this happened to you 🫂
Justice for Lily. I can’t imagine being with someone for more than a decade, marrying him & having his child, only for him to fall head over heels and give everything up for a random co worker. And now that wicked is out everyone’s acting like he’s such a sweetheart just cause of his interviews. Reminder that these celebs will only show you the side of them they WANT you to see. He’s a cheater & my heart also goes out to his child who will learn why their parents divorced once they’re older & the kind of person their dad is
They are both at fault, but I think Ethan is more at fault because he knew he had a new baby at home and a wife who went through a traumatic birth. The fact that he even entertained the idea of stepping out on that is DISGOSTANG
Ethan’s actions are objectively worse than Ariana’s, I agree.
@@chicken_nugget_fugget1472 Thank you. It bothers me that misogyny runs deep and people are always blaming the woman for "homewrecking" (even looking through these comments) but while Ariana cheated, Ethan wrecked a home.
no there both evil bruh ariana hung out with lilly and held their BABY like she knew what she was doing and still decided to go after him. That’s why it’s both bad on both sides. If ariana didn’t know lilly or even she existed it would’ve been different but let’s not act like ariana is innocent when she’s KNOWN to do this. That’s why.
@@lisette773 Let me guide you back to the very first thing I said "They are both at fault".
@@floral-smoke yes but your saying ethan is “more at fault” when they both willingly knew what they were doing. They are both at fault entirely not one or the other.
Slater and Grande are both equally disgusting for this in my opinion. I'm embarrassed to have been a fan of her. To write a song like 'yes, and?' and jubilate in causing such pain for Lily Jay and then the next minute turn on fake waterworks for sympathy is so calculatedly cruel. The level of dignity, self-respect and restraint Lily Jay has is impressive. I think one day Slater will wake up and see that not all that glitters is gold and he has made a terrible mistake. By the time that happens I imagine Lily Jay will have a better man who is loyal and doesn't resemble a malnourished garden gnome.
But let the Ari fans tell it, “ it was debunked” 😂
The fact that it never was either 😂. All they went off on was lily saying she didn't know what it meant when they said "on the record"
They’re gonna say it again (I just know it) it honestly disgusts me
@@KSalas-vo9cx Lmfao (exactly though) 😭😭😭😭
Ariana stans in my personal experience are the least intelligent. They aren't the scariest, but they seem to be the dumbest set.
Guys it was debunked! The essay is fake, written by AI. Actually Ethan never had a wife, and Ariana is still a virgin I swear.
I can’t even imagine spending 10 years with someone, supporting his career, giving birth to his child, moving thousands of miles away from my support system with a two month old as I’m in my most vulnerable place as a new parent and all the while my significant other, who I’ve sacrificed everything for, is falling in love with his costar and planning his divorce to me and not looking back. Just….there is NO justifying this. NONE.
Lily actually keeps it classy. unlike ariana , she's educated and so articulate.
Makes sense why Ariana was using big words she doesn't even understand In a interviews to seem even close to being as articulate as lily.
Disgusting.
i agree. what's funny is ariana always swears a lot, but back in this very interview when she tried to sound smart like lily jay, she didn't swear. 😂😂😂😂😂 it gets to show ariana was quite aware of lily's intelligence and was insecure about it
She has a habit of messing with other people's men. I don't think it will last; she seems to be the kind that likes to get what she wants and quickly moves on when bored. Edit: Ari did meet her, Lilly said this in her first post ever. She even met his kid!!!!! Right before they got caught.
It’s so refreshing to see fans holding Ariana accountable, no matter how much backlash they get from extremist stans.
I'm a life long fan. But I WOULD NOT stand for adultery!
I know it’s not gonna last for Ariana she’s indecisive and sneaky, so after the next wicked movie comes out I’m sure she’ll be done with him. It is for nothing sadly, and I feel bad for Lilly and hope she doesn’t go back to him after.
Giving it max three
I've read somewhere that she cheats on everyone she is with. Makes me wonder why the hell would she get married?
Agree, but I was also thinking that she might have to stay with this one a bit longer 😅 if she dumps him that quick, she would receive HUGE backlash 😅
@@dominikaszymaszek45 yeah that’s why I’m giving til wicked 2, but after that drops it’s over fs
@ i agree but I feel like she’s gotten so much backlash in her past as well as now, and she’s immune to caring atp and will do what she wants regardless.
As someone who used to be a die hard fan, this situation made me stop supporting her. I couldn’t even go see the movie because that situation would just be in the back of my mind. She smiled in that lady’s face while HOLDING her baby, meanwhile she was messing with her husband.
Preaaaachhhh🙌🏾🙌🏾❤️❤️
lol there’s a girl who homewrecked me, she does lashes and nails all that stuff for WOMEN. And she texted me she was a girls girl then deleted the message but I saw it 😂 I was like at least she knows she ain’t.
There's a girl who homewrecked me (married with a kid at the time) as well, she's always posting shit about loyalty on fb. The last thing she posted that had me cracking up was about "everyone is the villian in someone's story" and I'm just trying not to act up. I stg she's trying me
My ex's best friend is a homewrecker too. She was always up on my ex 24/7 even behind my back. On her insta bio says "I hate hoes" yet she is one. 😐
What a messy life 😮
@mikichan8561 they usually do hate themselves so that tracks
@@mikichan8561gworllll u too nice, if that was me I’d be all up on that page tellin her I’m that sure she’d know a thing or two about hoes 🤣
cheating after his wife gave birth is enough... but after she almost died giving birth to your child?!?!?!?!? i could not be attracted to a man like that..
I feel like her characters song Popular from wicked is so ironic given people keep obsessing with her irl even thou she has a shady history of being the other woman. People will always continue to stan her because she’s beautiful, charming, and talented. (that’s what we mostly see from social medias) NOW that being said fuck that SpongeBob guy too these men are equally weak n nasty but she has been a common denominator too many times at this point. wicked behavior I feel..
Wicked behavior I see what you did there
@@sunrope77🤭😏🙂↕️
Yes i think the fakeness of her role is so fitting for her!
I absolutley refuse to call him anything but spongebob.
Ariana is the perfect Glinda, this is totally something the character would do
So is she a method actress now?
Idk, think its just a coincidence and very theater kid of her. But I loved wicked, can't stop listening to the soundtrack
We’re talking about the same girl that wrote “break up with your girlfriend, I’m bored.” This shouldn’t be surprising to ANYONE
how convenient for Ariana that neither of their exes are fully able to speak on what happened. Oh boo.
With all the Wicked hype, most people are now fawning over Ariana and Ethan. Ofc we don't know what happened, but people need to stop putting celebrities on a pedestal. Yes, Ethan made the choice to cheat on his wife and wreck his home, but Ariana isn't blameless either. She has shown a behaviour of going after committed men.
That was DEFINITELY all for nothing. She is more "in love" with Сynthia than Ethan
I’ve been seeing some clips from the Wicked press tour of Ariana and Cynthia and I must say (I really really agree) like how she was touching Cynthia’s fingers in that one interview (they’re very very touchy-feely with each other tbh) 😮😮😮😮
Do you think it’s possible that Ariana and Cynthia hooked up with each other too? (I really don’t know for sure about Ariana, but I read that Cynthia is bi so it’s not out of the question I don’t think tbh)
@@abbied may be, maybe not. Im not going to be the one to speculate
@@abbiedAriana has said she’s bi.
@@The7MISSFITSwhen did she say that?
No one is bringing Ariana down she has too many loyal followers and she plays the innocent role so freaking well.
23:19 ''I’m still lovin Ariana down'' 23:25 ''I will be there at the concert''' Hell no. Kinda crazy after everything you know.
I completely agree!
Yep Ive lost respect for him too, nd he's been cheated on several times and still supports her
@@vianeyboruel504he?
Imagine him hurting his high school sweetheart like this just for his relationship with Ariana not to work. My heart breaks for this woman
Ariana Grande fans have to realize you can still call out your favs for their horrible behavior, like at least acknowledge that she's done so many wrongs. You don't have to defend everything they do.
@prettyhatemachinexoxo yuppp! I feel like people only go this hard defending her because they've done the same shit or see no problem in it.
I agree, you can like somebody and not agree with what they do all the time. It’s the same concept for family members or friends, you’re not gonna like everything they do.
I won’t ever go see Wicked because I don’t want to support Ariana in any way. It’s a shame because I love that musical, but I can’t condone her behavior. What she did was vile
Same.
@@jeralinsunflower7300 watch it illegally once it's on the Internet
I'm honestly disappointed in its success. It feels like all the villains are winning right now.
who would’ve thought that someone who tried since childhood to be famous would be self centered??!! shocking!!
I love your sarcasm ❤😂
It's the lack of self control for me. A grown ass man should be able to control his behavior.
Ariana might get preggo out of spite. Yeah this whole situation is disgusting from both Ari and Ethan
I wouldn't put it past her🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Ariana is too selfish to bring life into this world 😂let alone let the baby use/ “ruin” her body 😅. She’s just having her fun with Ethan. It will be over soon.
She probably is infertile. I don’t think she can get pregnant.
I really am trying to put this respectfully for the sake of others who may see this that are struggling with an eating disorder, but Ariana is visibly anorexic and has been for years. She has so little body fat it’s almost guaranteed that her fertility is nonexistent at such a low weight. I hope she gets help because everyone deserves to recover, but she seems to have no interest in recovery (or honesty in general) at all.
@@CherishTheePetersen Yeah, I agree with you on this but her fans believe what she told them about this (a.k.a. the gaslighting she did on this topic) and think there’s nothing wrong apparently (very very sad) 😥
We all have to understand how parasocial relationships work. As fans, we like their art and their expression, not the person. We've never met these celebrities before, and even if we have, we don't have personal relationships with them. Supporters/fans need to understand that and hold them accountable when they exhibit bad behaviour.
Can you tell that to the Selena Gomez's fans? I tried to tell them that but they get so mad at me for saying the same things lmao. I know this is a Ariana Grande video but I think the same lesson can be provided to Selena's fans and also every other celebrity. We only know the facades celebrities put on, not who they really are in their privacy of their homes.
This 1000%
Well not quite. A regular fan likes someone’s art and expression. A parasocial relationship is when a fan extends more time and emotional energy into the artist. Caring about who ariana dates, her drama, what she does wrong, etc is investing more in her as a person than just her art. If you’re just a fan of the art, then you can choose to keep buying her art or not. The very act of criticizing Ariana outside of her art is parasocial. It’s also parasocial to think it’s the job of strangers to hold her accountable for ruining a family
@@lolayaiii5056 Taylor Swift comes to mind too (beware of swifties) 😬😬😬😬
I agree with you 100% 👍🏻👌🏻
Lily Jay was so poised and well-spoken in her essay. She is educated and highly intelligent and her career specializes in helping women. Ariana literally could NEVERRRRR. We should all be looking up to women like Lily Jay , not women like Ariana. Look up to the people Ariana could only DREAM to be like.
people defending and stanning homewreckers is nothing new. Look at Marilyn Monroe and the horrible way she treated Jackie. Angelina and Brad. Heck, in Elizabeth and Richard's cases, their affair served to make them MORE popular.
Sadly, it almost feels like this behavior is being encouraged nowadays.
Ariana Grande acts like shes on the narcissistic spectrum
I agree
Ain’t no “act like” she IS 😂
'Break up with ur girlfriend' 'That boy is mine' 'Yes, and?' Those all say a lot abt her character.....
Girl green tea has no sugar in it !! Unless u add it 🤣
Lmaooo I’m slow
sorry but after this year i’ve found it difficult to care about celebrity drama. I feel like that one jaden smith clip rn
I agree with you
Same. It's just life. Our interpersonal dramas are just the same without the lens.
ur so real for that LMAO
Are you a Grande fan? Because Whyyyy are you saying that when we are talking about her and ethan destroying Lilly Jay's life?
Honestly, Ariana has always been referenced as the other woman in people's breakup stories. I forgotten her name, but the actress on glee that died few years back also mentioned ariana grande's name as one of the reasons she broke up with her partner. I swear, i believe that woman has a kink for these kind of situations.
Naya Rivera, yea
Thank you for speaking about and not letting ppl forget about Lily jay
I bet she was only interested in him because he was married. He’s not attractive and he looks like he’d be scared to approach her.
I read so many strange comments on Twitter(X) saying “why should I care it’s not my business” “it wasn’t a house if he was easy to steal” just defending Ariana and I couldn’t help but wish that one day it happens to them and nobody cares, I saw someone say we’re in a “empathy epidemic” and it’s so true, like obviously you don’t have to stop listening to her music but harassing the wife and just saying that Ariana can do nothing wrong is horrible. Like yall are crazy, we do not know these celebrities, who knows what she’s like irl. You loose them how you got them for real, and one day it’ll happen to her. And yes it takes two to tango, so I’m not just blaming Ethan but I’m not going to not blame Ariana either. Her morals are horrible but without Ariana(or any homewrecker) this wouldn’t have happened. Let someone Arianators didn’t like do this, yes, they would absolutely drag them. And I don’t get the switch up from the fans, they shouldn’t want Ariana with that man, what if he hurts her worse then they’ll be crying and throwing a fit about that too. And people say “they divorced before that” but they knew each other so what happened that made them want to be with each other to divorce their partners, like are you dumb. Something had to happen, it’s emotional cheating at that point
Ethan Slater makes Pete Davidson look like a Greek God 😂
He got that BDE....... 😊
Tisa Tells calls Ethan Slater “facially challenged” 😂😂😂😂
I know that sounds mean, but like the dude doesn’t sound like all that great of a person either anyways (a serial cheater) so his personality doesn’t sound like it compensates for his facial challengedness (if you know what I mean) 😂
people defending her conveniently never mention her history of this shit
The album is an album to defend herself
Victim mentality ahh album😂
I think what most upsets me in this is that… is so bloody common. And so many people just brush it off, normalize it, like is no big deal. The same people talk about human rights, feminism, animal welfare, powerful people’s behavior, war crimes etc. because criticizing about injustices and harmful things humanity does is easy, but doing just the bare effing minimum that is respecting your wife and kid, or a stranger period.. then suddenly ‘oh wow, chill out, everyone’s human, no one is perfect’, like it’s so freaking impossible to go through the first step of human decency. I guess it’s all bs then, we’re doomed..
i’m all for the ex wife speaking up this entire thing is the EXACT reason i will never be watching that trash wicked movie i don’t wanna even hear their voices bro im so disgusted by that entire cast they all seem so incredibly fake id much rather watch the original broadway musical i refuse to put money in those kinds of pockets 🤢🤢🤢
She needed to speak up to remind the delusional Ariana fans about what really happened.
Very bold move from Ethan to leave his wife and child while he looks like anxiety from Inside Out
Ethan, u did Lily-jay dirty. Ariana, u went beyond the hooerishness we already knew u had
😭😭😭😭
A lot of women multiple costars of Ariana grande have said she is stuck up and thinks everything is about her. Like no ur disgusting. Jhene Aiko made a song about Ariana speak about her being suicidal cuz she likes to go after men in relationships. She is not a nice person she acts like that on the internet.
I don’t think ya’ll understand.. even if Ethan WAS single, I would be turned off by a man with a 2 month old..like go take care of your son and support the woman who just pushed out a human for you!!! The fact that Ariana doesn’t care about that is so gross
Hellloooooo, Keisha is definitely turning heads whenever she walks down the street, so so gorgeous ❤
Lmaoooo thanks babe
21:13 The immediate OPPA GANGNAM STYLE after “one of the psy’s I can’t remember” I SCREAMED 💀 Keisha you kill me, you have no right being so hilarious off top
In German, there is a saying: not everything that shines is gold.
Ariana was weird for defending ethan saying "he is misunderstood "
They met, she held their baby 😂 Ariana's defenders are disgusting
Her name is Dr Lilly James let’s put some respect on that.🤷🏾♀️
It's not only the cheating, it's the fact that ariana and ethan are EVERYWHERE now because of wicked. Like it's such a nightmare, you can't escape those who hurt you so bad and the rest of the world absolutely loves them. I'd go mad tbh
I don't get how people can say they want to hold people accountable and then in the same breath say "but I'm still going to support you"