FINALLY trying this amp for the FIRST TIME!
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How about you try a different cab than this one? I am sure you have a mesa oversize. Ola had used one and the raspiness you experienced, I did not hear in his video. I have a feeling that the speaker combo you chose does not work, the redback is notoriously fizzy and icepicky as a cone, and you'd be likely better with just V30's or Greenbacks. Good luck, brother!
It's not bad, a little woofy on the lows and hairy on the highs
@@germanomosconi392 Appreciate the feedback. I would, however, urge you to go back and watch Olas video again. I very much hear the raspiness in the gain structure on his video, clear as day actually. As far as red backs, fizzy? Maybe a little yes, much like a greenback. But icepicky? I have those speakers in 3 different cabs and dark/smooth are the words that come to mind. This Splawn cab was actually overly bright with only v30s in it as it's a very stiff cab, and the redbacks smoothed it out a good bit. I will of course be checking it out through other cabs and speakers before making any sort of determination, but I really don't think it's the cab. I'll be putting up the full playthrough in the coming weeks, so stay tuned!
Kyle bull…when oh when will you do a video on the bluguitar amp1 iridium. It slays
@@belligerentamateur Hey....thanks for the reply. I went to listen once again to the Ola video, and although I do agree about the raspiness with you, my ears still hear a little icepicky frequency that I don't hear on Ola's video. Mind you, with that I am not saying that I am right or you're wrong, at all.
I also have a feeling that it could also be because of the mic type used and their positioning. I would not be surprised if there was further tinkering on it, since contrary to you a lot of times his setup is more elaborated and processed. Looking forward to hear further experimentation from your side. Take care, my man!
I know you're not digging the sound but it is one of my absolute favorites you've ever featured on this channel! Glad you're keeping it real regardless
Agreed
I think so too, but then again I feel like most amps he tries on the channel got a nice but similar sound. Maybe I'm just tone deaf...
@@olebrumme6356It's hard to differentiate the amps tonewise without hearing them all side by side through the same cabinet and mic. Ofc Kyle is dialing similar tones with the amps, but nothing wrong with that, thats what he likes so it will sound as close to the tone in his head as possible, no matter the amp.
@@olebrumme6356or not, tone is subjective....forr example I bought an Engl fireball and I returned that thing so damn fast. Absolutely hated it, but the internet seems to love it.
This channel is just win-win central. We get to watch a man slowly descending into madness while enjoying sick gear. Nice
This needs pinned 😆
Real recognize real I guess 😂
This is an accurate representation of this channel, and it's glorious seeing everything unfold.
Slowly?! He's been there 😂
I don't understand why Kyle's channel isn't growing fast. I've been watching since I discovered his channel about a year ago,...and I think he has gone from 36 to 38k in that year. For the quality of the videos he is releasing, he should be growing way, way faster. ALL of his videos are great and very informative.....yet, there are channels with 100's of thousands of subscribers that only put out about 1 good video for every 20 that they release. I don't understand why ppl seem to suck up the crap, while ignoring the gold.
Keep it up, Kyle. People will wake up someday...hopefully.
I also love his channel, but I feel like every review is kinda the same thing. If he could start finding ways to freshen things up and still give us the same awesome stuff he already is, I think things will continue to grow.
I started when he was at like 2-3k subs and he’s come ALONG way since then! Most of it comes to only playing the same kind of riffs and same content. I love him and this channel but you have to have more than just that nowadays u fortunately. Also people are so lazy or don’t care about how big of pressing that like button or to subscribe it is to a UA-camr!
hey dude! maybe it feels slow, but my channel is actually one of the faster growing guitar channels out there, especially in the metal community. I usually gain 1k-1.5k subs a month, and I gained over 15k laste year alone! Immpretty happy with where things are, but I do appreciate the support
Sounds top notch to me. If raspy is a bad quality then I like that.
Thanks for the honest review! We need more of these on youtube. The amp doesn’t sound terrible to me at it’s price point but your coverage of the feel while playing is hugely helpful. As an SLO owner sometimes an amp can sound amazing and feel meh.
I think tamed back a tad,and double track / hard panned. It probably would have some cool dimension.
I would try another cab, maybe something with greenbacks or creambacks might work better. In terms of mics, I would’ve used a 57 on the red-back and a 57 on the v30 instead of a room mic. Would be fun to go back and forward between red-back and v30 also get a blend of both speakers.
Super interesting and I love how everyone has different needs for tone. For me this amp sounded absolutely incredible, we only get the recorded version and I'm sure in the room it's a completely different Vibe but love the review regardless. Thanks mate
That intro was hilarious haha, love your weird humor! Keep being you man! I also appreciate the room sound because I like to blend a hint of room mic into my recordings but I'm playing more loose punk riffs and I like a more raw mix which isn't professional or correct probably but I like it and don't care if the ten people who hear my song get pissed
I think it sounds dope af.
Reminds me of the guitar tone on Trapped Under Ice "big kiss goodnight" album
Man... He must be a bad cat... There are no holes in the box for him to breathe through...
Schrodinger's cat 😂😂
@@JohnWiku Maybe Kyle shouldn't have collapsed it's wave function by opening the box and pulling the cat out of it's superpositoin of good/not good.
Let's be real here though. It's probably an observer localized multiverse we're living in.
I was kinda' waiting for your opinion on this unit, thank you for this.
Sounds amazing!
I like the sound personally. Wonder for your purposes if it would benefit from a 16ohm cab actually.
Sounds good to me, it's pretty on par with what you usually play sound quality. Maybe you should have used a full V30 cab
Maybe a 5 or 10 band EQ would help out the tone some. Try active pick up's too
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@@beefnacos6258 💤😴
In every demo ig has this very particulaar top end. I think ots really cool to see a vox circuit based high gain amp. Even though it's not everyones cup of tea.
Which is probably why some people say it sounds like an ORANGE amp with more gain. I don't think it sounds like a VOX, but I don't have a lot of experience with VOX.
Thanks for the video, sounded okay on this end but i understand what you are saying though. You might try a different overdrive. That can make a huge difference in tone sometimes.
The gain structure is definitely an acquired taste I guess.
It sounds thumping and tight !! Me like !!! But I know that when you are next to the amp and the tone is under your fingers it may sound quite different.
Someone in another comment said it was based on a Vox type circuit? If that's the case I wonder if it would be worth treating it a bit more like a Mark series amp?
Yeah man I was disappointing too. Long story short : I've had this amp for a month or two and sold it a few weeks ago because:
- There's a big change in volume going from the Lo gain mode to the Hi gain one that I HATED. The amp should’ve had a separate gain and volume knob for the Hi mode, like the concentric knobs of the EVH 5150 III 50w.
- Channel 2 on high gain mode with gain at like 11am has almost way too much gain imho (becomes really buzzy/fuzzy fast).
- Couldn't get a good clean tone from Channel 1 on Lo gain mode without compromising the Hi one.
- Coudn't get a good crunch/rhythm tone from channel 2 on Lo gain mode without compromising the Hi one.
- A bit too scooped for me overall. not enough high mids. The EQ doesn't have a lot of range.
I still really enjoyed channel 2 on Hi mode with the gain at like 9am, but that's it. It's a shame because the noise gate works super well it's a lightweight amp. It was too much compromising for me personally. Channel 1 on Hi mode was a bit tubby for my taste too.
Great vid and production, sucks that it's not that great. Keep it up🔥
I recently picked-up a Lynx - with a JB pickup I was really struggling with the sound, no crispness whatsoever. And knowing this is a high-gain amp I was still surprised by how poor the clean tones were, really couldn't get one at all. Looking at your settings, like me, I see you have the channel volumes relatively low and the master volume set higher. Once I cranked up the channel volume and turned down the master (to a reasonable home volume level) the amp sound improved exponentially across the board. Cleans sounded as expected, the high-gain tones weren't as tubby. I did not use a boost, would be curious as to what you come up with turning up the channel volume AND utilizing a boost.
To me it sounds like an Orange amp with a more modern high gain sound
Again I think the tones are awesome ! On par with the Uberschall and 5150. Ola Englund and Tone Wars Jarrod love theirs! Of course tone is subjective. Maybe try it with different cabs ?
It sounds like the and justice for all tone
That guitar is pretty slick lookin
That intro was very deliverance....
Can we get the amps into a variety of cabinets please mr Kyle ? that would be super interesting to compare and see what suits the amp.
Maybe it’s your cabinet. I thought you’d test everything with your Mesa can
Sounds like a Bad Overdrive/fuzz pedal
This amp has saturation, but it's EQ curve is something I'd need a graphic EQ to fix, maybe a graphic EQ and a parametric EQ.
Going full EQ tweaker is probably the only way I could get a tone I want out of it.
Hilarious opening.
My local shop has these. I think it's the best sounding amp I've ever heard...
Yeah, it's great. Kyle needs to spend more time with it. Try different speakers and overdrives with it.
nope, I just don't like it. we're allowed to differ in opinion.
@@belligerentamateur Of course. But you asked us what we think. We give you our opinion, and you act like a little spoiled brat. So what's your point? If you don't want our opinions, then don't ask us for our opinions. You can turn comments OFF on your videos. Maybe that would work better for you. And yeah, nobody wants to hang around with toxic people, so you don't have to worry about reading my comments anymore. There is nothing of value for me here.
Use a Fortin Grind, Blade or 33 on it.
I've liked the sound in other demos- so maybe the cab isn't a good match?
I have a black winter in the bridge of three of my guitars. Easily my favorite.
Belligerent as usual, But this Amp/Cab combo sounds sick in some way.
Check out Porcupine Tree. Steven Wilson uses Bad Cat amps
I've never played one, but it looks like you have the gate up kind of high? Wonder if that might be robbing some tone?
Great demonstration though! Great job Kyle!
Hmm I was thinking this or the revv generator 50 for the next amp hmm
Curious how it sounds with the gain pulled back and the channel volume pushed.
louder. it's not a plexi style amp
I didn't mind the sound of the amp, from what I was hearing. At least, it sounded fine when the 'front' camera was straight on; when the 'side' camera was the focus, it was pretty hollow. I guess we really do have to be in the room with you..but even then, I'd be hearing what I hear and not what you hear. 🤔😁 Regardless, thanks for the review and, as always, your honest opinion.
Might work better with an EQ pedal and some bass heavy speakers like Swamp Thangs. And it's probably designed to work best with lower output pickups and an overdrive pedal. Dad rock amp.
Bro, if a client showed up with this rig, I would have no trouble whatsoever making magic happen. I do feel like this may be the wrong speaker or cab match for this head possibly.
This is wild to me because it’s one of my favorite sounds you’ve ever gotten on this channel. Maybe it’s just not a good match with the Redbacks?
(I’m more of an old-school punk rock guy than a hardcore/thrash so take it with a grain of salt)
your ear isnt next to the micphone its two different sounds when you have one ear next to the amp and one ear above geewilkers
It’s not an amp designed for ultra metal tones. It’s a high-gain amp for more lead playing and lower gain arpeggio riffs. Not the tool for this job.......but I LOVE how it sounds!
Cool amp but not my thing for the chugs or thrash. It’s got a place but I don’t know where that is. Not tight enough? Flubby low end? Me and a buddy couldn’t get it to deliver the brutes and we tried a bunch of speakers. It is cool though just not my thing.
It is definedly not a "modern hi gain" monster but kind of like that sound of channel 2😅 sounding more hi gain marshall than mesa or engl🧐
I made the mistake of buying the 50 watt combo, sold it after a month and bit the bullet and purchased a Marshall JVM 215c
No hat full on bullshido code fuck yeah lets go!!!!!
I can see this being good for some horror punk type riffing, but it's just way too buzzy in the top end. Idk try it your your VHT 2x12 to see how it sounds with P50es.
The low end makes it sound like an Orange
Kyle everybody keeps saying maybe the V30s are not right for this amp, all of the Badcat combo's and cabinets come with V30s, it's not the speakers.
I still want it!!!
cool sounds man, i know why you don-t like it, becouse it is not a very modern aggressive type of gain ala Engl or Mesa for example, but it has a very cool kind of gain structure, for solos for example the kind of gain that modern metal amps have sounds very annoying, this sounds cooler, it all depends by the genre you are in
It's missing that metallic clang like a 5150. \m/
"I don't believe in room sounds" Dear baby jesus please protect poor Kyle
This kid has a lot to learn. 😄
Ola Demoed it and he was over the moon about it I ended up getting it because of that I was underwhelmed and returned it immediately. I appreciate your review
Sad. It's a really good platform to start with. Did you try different overdrives in front of it? Boss SD-1 works great. Also: MXR 10-band in the loop will help you sculpt it. It has lots of gain, with great chord definition. Great harmonics too. Also: try different speakers until you hit the sweet-spot. V30's are not the answer for everything. The problem is not the LYNX. It's how you are using it. Also: it's a quality-built product. You should have kept it. Just curious, what is your favorite amp?
@@TheCyberMantis you know I didn't get any of that from that amp at all. Maybe it just wasn't a good one. I definitely did everything I could to love it. I hit it with overdrives I have five speaker cabinets with different speakers in them.. I tried everything to love it.I've had a lot of incredible amps come through here. Purple nightmare revv Morris boogie redplate monomyth. To name a few and spectacular boutique amps you might never have heard of. Sometimes you just get a dud it happens even Dumble has amps that people don't like
@@Frankcruzmusic The thing about having a lot of boutique amps is you are always comparing everything to everything else. And your ears get used to a certain sound, and then you measure everything else against that sound. I doubt you got a "bad one". But I guess it's possible.
@@TheCyberMantis well I had a friend here and he was dying to hear the amp cuz he fell in love with it as well from the videos and he too was not impressed. And he doesn't have very many amps at all. So two people who were with the amp had the same exact feeling
@@Frankcruzmusic I asked you what is your favorite amp? Maybe you just prefer a totally different sound.
My wife just walked in on me listening to this and questioned, “Chunky and dark?”
"Hi my name is Kyle. I'm an ampaholic. It's been 4 days since I bought a new amp T.T"
Klye, is it just me, or does it seem to be dry and kind of grainy sounding. Doesn't sound bad, just not for me.
Yep, I also bought into the Ola hype. Ended up selling just outside of the return window. I really wanted to like it, but just could not find the heat in the top end. I felt like the trick was in the presence, but there just wasn't a sweet spot. Either too much or not enough. The mid gain tones were killer though lol.
MXR 10-band EQ in the loop. Problem solved.
No other way to describe it than being extremely underwhelming, thru diff cabs, active/passive pickups diff boosts I threw everything at it and it just didn’t sound nearly as good as my stealth archon or beat up old 5150iii mkI. I don’t think they should be marketing this as a “‘modern high gain” amp built for modern metal. It’s anything but that. I got rid of mine after like 2 weeks. Out of the box the gate didn’t work, no matter how I dialed it in, even with the presence being pushed to the brink it was so heavy on the low end and flubby sounding it was essentially unusable. For example I don’t turn the gain up more than a hair past noon on the blue channel on my stealth and on the Lynx I had it (along w the presence) pushed Almost all the way and it still sounded like it had a wet blanket over it. Ola must have gotten a diamond in the Ruff as there isn’t a single other review, good or bad, that sounded anything like the one he demoed. 10 band eq didn’t do the job. Sd-1, Khdk ghoul screamer, and If my Fortin ts-9 couldn’t get it there, then nothing is gonna get it into “modern high gain” territory. There are so many Better amps out there for the money. (imo). I really thought this would be the one, the one to dethrone my years of playing 5150’s and 6505’s. But it fell short at every turn. But to each they’re own. What doesn’t work for me maybe exactly what your looking for so I don’t wanna turn one off from buying anything (I think there’s to much of that toxicity going on In our little niche of music already) I’ll just say temper your expectations when it comes to purchasing one of these and if you do, make sure you have a return policy in place. This is deff not an amp you should just blindly buy as (again personal experience) it was not what I expected on many levels. Also if it matters to you, it doesn’t have a dedicated clean channel. Cleans can easily be achieved by lowering the gain and boosting the volume but you may find yourself having to adjust the eq from one setting to the next. Like if you prefer the gain setting on the first channel as your go to dirty channel you’ll be stuck making adjustments on the fly. I was Thoroughly disappointed with this amp maybe I had to high of expectations and it was an influenced purchase largely from word of mouth and the tones Ola was getting out of it but I threw everything I had at it and it still didn’t hold a candle to my stealth or even the archon which is much less brand new. Long and short of it is if your looking for a modern high gain amp, geared toward metal, save your money and look elsewhere (personal opinion) hopefully others have better luck with theyres if they so choose to buy one. But this is a more accurate depiction of the amp than Olas video. The matching cab comes loaded w v30’s, I found it better suited to my Hesu cab w demon speakers. Highly recommend checking out they’re cabs/speakers. They’re affordable, durable highest quality build I’ve seen in a long time and much more modern sounding (just my two cents But my Hesu cab which costed maybe $750 including being shipped from Europe and far better than. My Marshall w v30’s and ENGl cab, And I’m no one to brag about the gear I own or how much it costs I find that to be off putting and compensating and I’m sure you’ll find very mixed reviews as to they’re demon speakers. But if your looking for an essentially modernized take on the old v30 ,it’s t a great place to look. Even with shipping from Europe it costed me less than the orange cab I was originally going to buy., locally. Its a great place to look if your looking for modern articulate high gain tones and does the clean thing very well. Deff don’t sleep on them if your in the market for a new cab or speaker. It replaced my ENGL 2x12 almost immediately. Lighter, better build and the demon speakers just the👨🍳 😘 the cost/quality ratio is the best I’ve seen or heard in a veryyy long time. Surprised Kyle hasn’t demoed one
@@The_Devil_You_Know If you love the Stealth, then I can see why you might not love the LYNX. Two different amps.
Definitely not a fan of this amp, but hopefully you find a way for it to work for you! Thanks for the video!
Friend of mine bought this and it was probably the most underwhelming amp I’ve heard, considering the hype. He ended up selling it quickly. Liked the clean/mid gain tones more than the high gain. I feel like it lacks all aggression and basically was more like “liquid lead player” type amp. Hard pass for me and kind of makes me weary to try other bad cats.
The amp sounded good to me, and for the next person, they might absolutely love it. I think that's where it's important these videos to just state your opinion. Watching various channels over the years, more or less, the person playing just kind of winds up sounding like them to me no matter what gear they are using.
Try with a different cab...with different speakers. (I heard Glenn screaming from beyond) :)
legacy VL 100!
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he had a box(maybe someone will understand)
all those guitar necks in the corner.....
That anp is smooth as silk and you don't like it. Seems legit. 😂
it's clear proper ear function has left you many years ago
He said it's raspy, and he's got an SM57 pushed up to a V30. Funny because the "in the room sound" sounded badass.
Can’t say I liked this a ton. I’ll have to go back and listen to other reviews to see if they sound noticeably different. Also looked up some gut shots and even though it’s hand wired, I could’ve done a neater job than they did building this thing. Not impressed. Ceriatone blows them away in that regard.
You only spent 10 minutes with it.
This amp is excellent. It's a quality-built product. ( Not chinese junk. )
Lots of gain. The "in the room sound" sounded badass.
V30's are not the answer for everything. The speakers might be why it sounded raspy to you.
It has great chord definition. Sounded clear and thick.
You need to try different overdrives in front of it. The Boss SD-1 works great.
You also need to put an MXR 10-band EQ in the loop. That will help you sculpt it.
You ALSO need to try different cabs with different speakers.
The LYNX is a great amp. You need to spend more time with it.
It doesn't sound like your typical Marshall or Mesa tone. It does it's own thing, which is cool.
Do we really need another Marshall, 5150, or Mesa clone? I certainly don't.
I don't need to do shit. I didn't like it. end of story. bye!
@@belligerentamateur LoL! Okay. Do whatever you want. 😆🤡
We got some BOOGERS! LOL! I love you dearly my dude, but the nostril flair needed a pre-check....and it speaks volumes to your giddy excitement AND how well you "words" when you're hyped ':{P Tight vid kid! XmoshX
This thing is pretty bad..... Bad ass.
Definitely not an amp for me....
Ola really likes this amp. Tim Pierce also really likes this amp. That should tell you something.
I like the gain on this amp about as much as I like the dirty channel on my Rockerverb 100 MKII, which is not at all.
This app seems like it’s trying to be something it’s not. Fizzy af
it has that clangy sounding top end on the chugs, not a huge fan
Honestly, I hate it. Great video though
Kinda bright... Maybe there is a break in period
Please, no more room mics unless you're mixing them with the direct. Lol never understood why people like in the room videos of amps. It's so colored by the mic being used, and you're not feeling the room. Which is what In the room really is anyway.
Interesting you would think you'd get more clicks if people didn't know it was a Bad Cat amp.
Sounds kinda trashy in a not good way...
“Bad Cat” always sounds tarded to me.😂. Cool amps tho.
Not a fan of the Bad Cat neither.
Lot of sand. Luck of focus.
sounds poopy, never played one, definitely not interested in this brand, thanks for the review man!
This is not a metal amp. How much are you getting paid for this advertisement?
Yes it is. ❤
Silly. It is a metal amp. If you are a metal player.
Hey Kyle? Did you get one of the new Lichtlaerm 12" speakers yet? Surprised about the Bad Cat? Perhaps the amp has been damaged in transport. At one point in the video the noise floor of the amp was really noisy, then you dialed in the gate. Who knows, it could be an avenue of investigation. Most reviews I've seen had a better sound than you were able to get.
i thought it sounded different from the sounds you usually get, but in a good way
10:32 i think i know what you mean. to my ears the 311 guitar tone sounds like what you described--i hate that tone. they play mesa boogie, i think.