ok, maybe I was WRONG about the MCU?? (Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2023
- ok out of the bad marvel movies, there are still some AMAZING ones and I want to see them...
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One of the very best mcu movies this one
Would not be surprised at allll
This is my favorite MCU film! As you say, it has death. Death, consequences, and great characters. Most of the MCU is too focused on humor to instill this kind of gravity in the other films. This style is what a lot of the other movies could have benefited from using.
From even the clips I’ve seen of the newer ones over the years I couldn’t agree more, so I can’t even imagine the whole movie 😂
You would love Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. then. :)
@@Welchy dude, pre-endgame marvel was all great, after that it just went downhill and they started making cringy movies like the new ant-man
YEP YEP YEP
@@instantchaos2385the thing is, I think they are kind of experimenting, since they have more freedom to do so, at least with some of the newer characters, like moon Knight, or Werewolf by night. I will say some of it is hit or miss, and, I think, trying to emulate the breakaway success of the original guardians, but, then you have Guardians 3, the aforementioned Moon Knight, and others. Even Shang chi is trying to do some different things, to a degree
Hopefully helpful context:
If u recall when Cap first rescues Bucky and the rest of the 107 in Captain America: The First Avengers, he finds him strapped to a gurney(?) repeating his name and serial number, a common practice taught to soldiers to keep them from giving away information during torture. It is heavily implied that Bucky was one of many that was being used as a lab rat to test out the newest version of the incomplete Super Serum that Zola was trying to tweak (the one that was modified after the Red Skulls dose didn’t go so well)
This serum is the reason Bucky was able to survive the fall from the train, the harsh environment after the fall until he was found, the amputation of his arm, the replacing of said arm with his metal one, and most notably his related “brain wipes” and cryogenic freezing.
The reason he’s not as old as Peggy is because Hydra would wipe his mind and keep him on ice until they could use him for a mission. Once that mission was accomplished, wipe, freeze, and repeat.
It is also implied a little in this movie, more so in future ones, that one of the main reasons Hydra didn’t just brainwash Bucky and use him as much as they wanted was because his brain (helped by a Super Soldier Serum that included an increased healing factor) would recover from the brainwashing much faster than anticipated and he would start remembering things, Steve usually being first, and they would have to wipe him and start all over again. Freezing him was just easier in between missions.
At the end of the movie Bucky does not know who Steve really is to him, but he has enough of a phantom memory to want to save him, even if he doesn’t know why.
Also, the reason Nat didn’t stone cold die was because the badge isn’t what went off, she used one of her electric discs from earlier in the movie on herself, thereby short circuiting the badge. Painful yes, but she’s alive so 🤷♀️
But frfr this movies I’d def one of the top 3 in the MCU!!!!
The thing with Winter Soldier, and a large part of why it's SO FUCKING GOOD! Is that it's not a Super Hero Movie (not that those can't be good, mind), but a spy thriller that just so happens to have super heroes in it.
I mean, think about if you removed every shred of super hero-ness from the plot and what are you left with? THE EXACT SAME PLOT! It's genius, hoenstly.
I'm glad you liked it. It's my favourite :D
Wait that is such a good point, maybe that’s why I think it’ll already be the best one 😂 I’m now worried again 😭
@@Welchy Ah... Sorry about that XDD
Could not agree more. It's my favourite film genre plus two great leads with fabulous chemistry.
Also - the epitaph on Fury's grave is *chef's kiss *
Great point! It’s like a Daniel Craig bond movie.
@@WelchyYeah, that’s the best thing about Marvel movies. They may use their superhuman abilities throughout, but the story is usually not about those abilities. They don’t just take one element, turn it up to 11, and ignore the rest.
Other than all the running from machine gun rounds, the action and combat scenes felt so tightly choreographed, there aren’t people standing back, patiently taking their turn to 1-on-1 the hero, they don’t just stand still and let the opponent do an elaborate somersault attack and junk; they’re actively fighting. And of course, probably one of the greatest car chases ever.
The best part of the MCU is that it isn’t just made one movie at a time. They made an elaborate story starting from the first Iron Man. They eased us in, but they had an end goal to shoot for from the start. As it progresses (and you’ve seen snippets here), they start to reference other heroes more regularly in their solo movies.
There was a second end scene. Bucky was in the museum reading about himself.
“Who the Hell is Bucky?” One of my fav lines in all the MCU
its still one of my favorite parts, where bucky recognizes him at the end, he didn't recognize the hero, he recognized his beaten and bloody friend who could never run away from a fight
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I can't stop laughing at this moment. Just, the zoom in and Welchy's delivery. "F*ck off Fake Jesus!"
Welchy is already funny in general, but this moment might be my favorite, especially as a Christian.
I’m dead he didn’t know Mr fondue was Howard stark 😭
Yeah, audiences tend to rank this as one of the top 3 MCU movies in the entire MCU. And I can understand why. It's got great action, the dialogue is pretty solid, it's got plenty of good twists for first time viewers and the characters just pull you in!
While this isn't my personal favorite MCU movie, it's still really cool.
It also came right after thor the dark world and ironman 3 which at the time weren't beloved. The winter soldier film also made the agents of shield show work a lot better when they finally got to use the twist. This film revamped the genre for me back then. I was only really caring about arrow at the time.
Boy have times changed!
Welchy simps for Captain America: Winter Soldier characters for 22:52 minutes
Ahahaa true tbh
This movie connects so well with the tv series Agents of Shield, which I 100% recommend checking out.
Oh hell, yeah. Especially when you connect all the background info delivered by AoS, plus the other marvel movies; they intermesh so perfectly, linking the movies together.
Like for example a certain company is reclaiming tech from one of the crashed helicarriers. Which is the basis of one MCU movie. But it is also the set piece in Deadpool for the end-scene. Just sooo good. But it takes time to watch through the whole series and seasons plus find all the missing links.
@@RustyDust101 One thing that was a bit odd was that until "the worldbreaker" ending, it was following along with it's co-current MCU films, with the Sokovia accords and the like, or even TVs showing the Black Order Donut ship from Infinity War above NY, but after that season, the snap never seemed to have happened and all future seasons ignored the films.
Yeah, I didn't really get into the MCU until I started Agents of SHIELD and went to watch this because they were connected. This was really the first movie that made me want to watch everything, even though I did watch a few of the movies, including the Avengers, in the theatres.
@@josiaharaki7310 They not only separated completely back then to only be loosely in the same universe, but it's also no longer considered default canon anymore. Basically as far as Marvel are concerned, some things might still work and if they do you can assume it's canon if you want. But they will pay no attention to it, and can and will change whatever they want regardless of what happened in the show.
@wyterabitt2149 such as the Darkhold. Pretty sure Satan(the literal satan) had the darkhold as part of a deal Ghost Rider made with Coulson.
Don’t worry, I’m pretty sure the directors confirmed that Jasper Sitwell (the dude Bucky yeeted out of the car into an oncoming semi) has also been confirmed as dead. 😅
i love how you've added personal touches to the room, creating a comfortable and cozy ambiance. It looks like a great place to hang out.
Thanks so much! 😊
@@Welchy you missed the end credit scene (after the final credits) where Bucky appears again. Go back and watch it, please! 😊
My favourite Marvel/MCU movie, and the best MCU movie tbh. The soundtrack in this movie is particularly chilling, Bucky/Winter Soldiers theme having samples of his screams in it is horrifying and makes a great intro for the character. Civil War is also really good.
“If they’re shooting at you, they’re bad.” Cut to Bucky shooting him in the gut. 🤦♀️
Honestly Steve and Nat had more chemistry then most of them, in my opinion. Also this is my fav film of the MCU 🤌
Defiantly, hate Nat with Bruce, they dont have chemistry
@@patriciaalvareztostado8170imo they didn't have much romantic chemistry, however they related to each other on multiple levels. Who they are, why they exist, the monsters they are inside, etc
They have such great chemistry because Chris Evans and Scarlett Johansson have been best friends since childhood
@@blake8220 Yes they have, you could see it, I know they are actors, but in case of Scarlett and Chris you could see it, and I love it them in the Winter Soldier, I also like the character together not just the actors, I would have like to see at least Black Widow with the Bucky
I always considered Steve to be Nat’s closest friend. We weren’t really shown anything between Nat and Clint
See, when comic book/superhero movies acknowledge real world issues, and thus make the characters become much more relatable and grounded (as well as having a great plot, musical score, and action scenes), that's when they fully reel me in. And this movie did just that. Also a fave of mine from the MCU.
Yesss this is the best marvel movie EVER, and Bucky is one of the best characters. His backstory is so upsetting but I love it lol. Him and Steve throughout the Cap trilogy are just the most interesting characters to follow (in my opinion). There was a second end credit scene btw. It ties into Civil War so you might wanna go back and watch it at some point :) Very entertaining reaction!
I always wondered why the other Avengers don’t come, but the movie makes it clear that Cap has trouble trusting even Black Widow in this movie, so I guess it makes sense that he wouldn’t really trust the other Avengers either.. Like maybe he wouldn’t really trust Tony or Banner or Thor or anyone else here.. Fury does tell him, “Don’t trust anyone,” so idk.
It honestly does seem like a plot hole, but I appreciate that they make Cap feel that he can’t trust anyone else, so that’s why they don’t show up. At least they try to explain it somewhat. 🤔🤷♀️
I don’t think Thor is on earth during this movie either so that’s a good reason not to contact him it’s not like he can just send him an email
@@geekgirl616
Well, Thor doesn’t have a computer, but he does know about electronic letters.. 🤔
The title actually has a double meaning. Yes, it references Bucky, but the term "winter soldier" actually goes back to Thomas Paine, an 18th century writer who supported the American Revolution. In his published works, he wrote about "the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot" (people who only stand up and fight for what's right when it's safe and easy), as opposed to "the winter soldier" (people who fight, even when things are hard).
So, in that sense, Captain America IS the Winter Soldier.
Love this one and love what Steve tells Bucky at the end
I very much lucked out. Saw this in the cinema by accident. Messed up the time of a film I wanted to see. Watched this and was so impressive I’ve become a MCU fan since.
Steve speaking french is one of my favorite little details about this movie. If you remeber back in the first avenger two of the howling comandos/steves friends spoke french it was one of the guys first language i like to think that steve learned to speak to them
Such a good film. Yes Fury’s line about “last time I trusted someone I lost an eye” is so stupid in retrospect, I love it. Fun facts about the film though: Chris didn’t have a body double for his running scenes due to his back being so flat, he just had to run the entire time because no double could mimic his posture. Chris and Sebastian’s hand-to-hand combat had to be choreographed to dance beats since Chris works best learning through dance. (It’s also the reason why he runs with that posture, it’s ballet posture)
This film does always remind me of how fuckin good the Agent Carter show was though. You get some more time with Peggy and Stark, plus meeting Jarvis and the man Peggy eventually married. Only downside though is that the films do retroactively undo the entire show which is unfortunate because Peggy has some amazing on-screen chemistry. Plus if you want something that is genuinely more high stakes than an MCU movie, an MCU show is your best bet
The films don’t necessarily delete the show Steve lives out his life in another timeline therefore the Agent Carter show is left untouched
@@geekgirl616 logically I know this but endgame has more clout than agent carter so it becomes the one that is better known and it makes me upsetti spaghetti
I’ve recently changed the way I rate movies. I’ve become a bit harsher and have discovered where my preferences lie. As a result, almost every MCU movie which was previously a 10/10 in my mind has been bumped to a lower score like an 8 or 9
EXCEPT the Winter Soldier. This movie is so good that it keeps this prestigious rating. I think that says a lot for how I feel about this movie
Ah yes,, daddy Bucky. And daddy Sam. Absolutely love them.
The elevator fight was the first thing they filmed. They practiced the fight choreography for several weeks prior to filming. It was that difficult but also well worth it.
You had two end credit seen. One with Bucky dressed up undercover going to the museum
This is one of my favs, cuz *god* that fight choreo
Listen everything isn’t as perfect as this, but it’s a fun ride & just exciting to see comic books come to life for some of us. Loving this mcu journey, Can’t wait to keep following along!
The elevator fight was the first thing they worked on. They practiced the fight choreography for several weeks prior to filming. It was both difficult and exhausting but also well worth it.
I just found your channel and OMG I LOVE YOUR PERSONALITY! this is my fav movie so I had to watch when it came up on my feed and it made me so happy! I also love how Bucky’s your favorite, he’s mine too! ❤
The material of what the shield is made can absorb any impact, so that's why he wasn't damaged when he hit the ground
Other than Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America has the best trilogy in the MCU imo. I highly recommend you to watch Civil War as well.
9:39 the shield absorbs and redirects kinetic energy, the is a catch all for ignoring physics
This is one of the only pieces of deeper marvel lore I know, but the material Cap's shield is made of absorbs kinetic energy, so it's literally the best thing to make a shield out of, or armor I guess
Can't keep up with all the MCU movies...there are just too many 😂 But i like the ones i've watched
Ahahah I feel ya on that
I'm glad he already knows about wanda at the end
One of the best MCU films even now for a reason ❤
That being said, I am now curious about Civil War 👀
(No rush if u haven’t seen it since the MCU needs time to get thru lol)
Best way to come home after a long day!! Many thanks @Welchy
Fun Fact: The device Fury used to escape the car was created by Fitz, a character from the show Agents of Shield. They use the same device in the show.
This was when the movies and Agents of Shield were all there were when it came to the MCU. I miss this era of the MCU. The whole thing felt more cozy and well put-together. 😔
"who's your husband?! It better not be fondue guy"
I be like dude, the fondue guy is Tony Starks dad, Howard Stark.
love ya hair and i cant wait for your next vid :)
Bucky is my favourite male character in the entire mcu (Wanda's my queen) I just love his character development and Sebastian Stan did such a good job bringing the character's anguish and feelings to life.
He puts the flash drive in the vending machine because he doesn't want to take it to SHIELD headquarters where they could find it and take it away from him, and he can't ditch Rumlow and the guys without arousing everyone's suspicions. So he's got to find a hiding place right away, within arms' reach of where he's already standing, and the inside of the vending machine is the only place.
The only sad thing about watching the good MCU movies is knowing how bad they fall apart down the line...
Thank goodness you're part of a small minority of online people that didn't enjoy these new phases
🤣🤣🤣
@@RhetoricalThrill She's not alone. The MCU missed a great opportunity when it shifted to what they perceived as audience pleasing formula. Humor that should have been particular to certain characters gets globed onto ever character because it brings in the $$$. All the movies have a sameness to them instead of giving each movie it's own unique spin. Hitchcock vs Kubrick. It no longer feels authentic and the box office shows the audience has grown bored of the formula. It's a shame because it IS possible to make great movies with these beloved characters. If it was only a small minority of online people the box office would say differently.
Ngl even though I watch every film fondly and love most of them it kinda lost its charm on me after Civil War (and Endgame was a good one)
I only continue to watch a few of them bc it was kinda a "tradition" thing I started with my Dad. We bonded with watching superheros, specifically Marvel.
@@Iletyoulive People that hate the new phases are the majority not minority. Every show and movie's comment section is filled with people with throwing tantrums and complaining at the smallest things.
Bucky catching Caps shield is one of the coldest moments in Marvel. Prove me wrong. 👇🏼
I love your videos Welchy!! This video made my day. This movie has always been my favorite one of all the MCU movies. I got so happy when i saw that you made a video reacting to this movie. i love your reactions to the movie.
I loved Bucky in the first captian america movie and his reunion with steve broke my heart the first time i saw it. it still breaks my heart to this day. I got so happy when i saw Bucky again in this movie. Bucky is one of my favorite character ever in the MCU. I love the plot, the action, the costumes and the jokes in this movie. I just love this so much. Thank you so much for doing this video and i hope you have a great day/night.
P.S: sorry if it is any grammer mistakes, english is not my first language.
Ayy thank ya :D
Widow used the same gadget she used earlier on Bucky to kill the electric device
This and GOTG, came out same year and both are EXCELLENT! A true high point in the MCU.
After the first Avengers movie, Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor all had movies featuring high level threats that you would think would have gotten the other Avengers involved. The best way to explain why they don't is because perhaps all three movies were orruring around the same time, making the Avengers unavailable to help each other
Thank you for this reaction, Welchy!
7:45 me smirking....
this is in my top 5 favorite MCU movies !! Captain America Civil War is my fav (and all of these characters are in it too👀) but also Bucky is my absolute FAVORITE character in the entire MCU and i hope you continue to love him as a character because he constantly gets even better
This is one of my favourite MCU movies
My guy suggested Howard Stark was Peggys husband lol
Not you talking over the answers to the questions you were making 😂😂
This was HILARIOUS... PLEASE DO MORE !!! 👏👏👏👏
There’s one more scene at the end of the credits
"Fondue Guy" is Howard Stark - Tony Stark's Dad. 😀
You would definitely love Civil War. You should watch that next
The best ones are yet to come
20:21 “that sucks, fuck you Cap” made me properly laugh out loud hahaha
You didn't see the other ending marvel has now been doing two secret endings
"this is so fucked I love this so much" i died 😭😭😭
11:55 "I never thought a Marvel movie would have this much depth"
Well they do have over 80 years worth of comic storylines and worlbuilding to draw on...
Yeah and some of the ones I’ve seen and the new ones people have seen are just ain’t it which is saddening 😕
Yes, the man called Howard STARK is the father of Tony STARK, as is know since the first Iron Man movie xDD
You know what's interesting about the US Government hiring German Scientists after WW II in this movie? It actually happened. NASA hired German Scientists when the Space Race/The Cold War against Russia was going on.
Great reaction. Captain America: Civil War is another banger! 👏🏾
It has a lot of bangers, even the dookie’s are gilded
There's one more end credit scene.
HERE FOR IT!
Fyi, there's a show called Agents of Shield. The first season is canon, and it's meant to lead up to this movie, with this movie releasing exactly between episodes 16 and 17. As for the other seasons, not sure if they're canon or not.
& they all can’t be the same because in our world we’re not all the same, towns and city’s aren’t all the same. We all experience different things in each state, so I appreciate the different stories and different ways of telling them.
Natasha didn't die because by activating the little Widow stinger, she short-circuited the Hydra thingy that all the World Security Council people were wearing.
noooo there's another post credit scene at the end i can't believe you didn't watch it 😭
Bucky already had the super soldier serum before he fell
MCU movies are my favourite type of movies simply because of how different they are. They all fit the genre of superhero movie but that isnt their main genre at all. Like, the tonal difference between Iron Man, Captain America and later MCU movies (no spoilers) really shows why they reach such a big audience. There's atleast one movie you'll enjoy. I also find that the 'Avengers' movies blend these genres together well enough, so no one feels out of character or out of place in the movie. (I still need to watch Guardians 3 and Black Panther 2, so idk if this holds up currently though).
My absolute favorite MCU film! :)
Also, it's likely been mentioned, but there is a second post-credit scene at the very end. Highly recommended.
Age of Ultron is my fav avengers movie
*MR. FONDUE*🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Witch girl needs her own movie!
I feel like you *have* to watch Civil War after this 😊
One of best Marvel duo ever
i love this film the jokes are good and the story is good and i actually feel something when watching it, when watching later mcu content i don't feel as much if anything, the dialogue in this carry's a lot of emotion in parts
MY FAVOURITE
10:58 my question exactly. I don’t ship them at all but if black window asks you this the only right answer is husband 😂
If you’re thinking about watching all the mcu movies and tv show here is the order of them :
1-iron-man
2-the Incredible Hulk
3-iron-man2
4-Thor
5-captain America the first average
6- avengers
7-iron-man3
8-Thor the dark world
9-captain America and the winter soldier
10-guardians of the galaxy
11-avengers age of ultron
12-ant man
13-captain America civil war
14-doctor strange
15-guardians of the galaxy vol. 2
16-spider man homecoming
17-Thor ragnarok
18-black panther
19-avengers infinity war
20-ant man and the wasp
21-captain marvel
22-avengers endgame
23-Spider-Man far from home
24-Wandavision (tv show)
25-the falcon and the winter soldier (tv show)
26-loki (tv show)
27-black widow
28-Hawkeye (tv show)
29-Spider-Man no way home
30-doctors strange in the multiverse of madness
31-Thor love and thunder
32-Wakanda forever
33-Ant man and the wasp:quantumania
34-guardians of the galaxy vol. 3
35-Secret invasion (tv show)
There is more coming soon
It’s a lot I know 😭
Fury is so dramatic "Last time I trusted someone I lost an eye" absolute bull It was an alien cat that scratched him when he got too close I'm pretty sure he still owns it 😭
I can’t wait to see your reaction to civil war ;)
5:42 emotional support Rubiks cube
Black Widow usese these Stun darts on her bracers her stingers, she Shocked herself to sort out that device. So he didn't actually kill her with the device that was just her stunning herself.
There was another deleted scene at the very end of the credits, not sure if you watched it but it shows Bucky going to the museum and learning about his history.
one of my all time favorite marvel movies
20:56 Black Widow used one of her own stun weapons to electrocute herself (since she knows it isn't enough to kill her, only knock her out) and short circuit the Hydra badge on her shirt that killed the other people. She did that to stop the Hydra member from having leverage (her life) over Nick Fury. Once Black Widow broke the Hydra badge, Nick Fury was able to shoot the enemy. Since you were wondering why she didn't die - she didn't get hurt by the Hydra weapon, just passed out from electrocuting herself. Think you missed what was happening in the scene so wanted to clarify.
To be fair there’s depth throughout the marvel movies but they have as much fun as they can.
Highly recommend Guardians of the Galaxy it's easily one of the best MCU movies and anyone can watch it and have a great time
For MCU, Guardians is #1 in my book
The guys that chased Nick Fury were not real police.
Also if you look closely at the targeting system you can see Tony and I think Bruce being picked too ( also I think Dr strange too but I don't remember)