Nietzsche was commenting on Hegel, Kant, Fichte. The PoMos and Derrida in particular wrote very much in the Hegelian style, so that could be why N had them pegged before they were even born.
Some 1910 translation of Twlight of the Idols has another version "What? Art though looking for something? Thou wouldst fain multiply thyself tenfold, a hundred-fold? Thou seekest followers? Seek Ciphers!"... We are never understood-hence our authority".
Peterson's comment at 36:01 is excellent: "Nietzsche's book is not a book at all - it's a series of bombs.... And each sentence is a bomb. Each sentence blows things up that people don't know exist".
Nietzsche was purely human, compelled by suffering an could not find a way towards any satisfaction in life, with the exception criticism. I got to tell ya I would much much rather be at peace than a constant handwringer ! !
@@goobermcgilicuty3754 yeah it's easy to live in a delusion than understand reality and still push ahead because most people give up on everything once they understand reality.
Ran into Dr. Jordan Peterson on the streets of Toronto: "How you doin today, Doc?" "Well, it depends on what you mean by 'doing.' And it depends on what you mean by 'today.'" "Now, I've been thinking about this a lot, and you can tell me what you think about it." "It doesn't seem to me to be self-evident that when we're conceptualizing the nomenclature of a word like 'today' within the substrate of a dominance hierarchy, let's say, that we're not actually utilizing an a priori interpretive framework." "That seems to me like a good way of thinking about it." "Like, you might say it's proper, by the same token -- roughly speaking -- to order your (How would you put it?) your ... your manifestation of thinking in such a manner that 'today,' or 'doing,' for that matter, is predicated upon an evolutionary understanding of the archetypal representation of these utterances as they'e been portrayed in great literature." "And why the hell not?!" "It isn't obvious to me, eh, as far as I'm concerned, that this kind of ideology isn't part and parcel of a threat to the neo-marxist identity-politics approach to Jungian chaos and order. I see this as substantiated in the humanities departments of the university as it functions today. Yunno ... as the post-modernist types would have it." "So, so ... You have to give the devil his due, you know, because the devil is in the details." "It's no joke, man. Not bloody damn well. Not at all. AT ALLLLLL." "And fair enough, you know. More power to ya as far as I'm concerned." "And how are YOU doing today?"
Not always the case. Have you read Whitman? Whitman’s poetry could be classified as poetic, but it was so ignorantly self absorbed one would wonder if Whitman could see past the tip of his nose, let alone the next 5 minutes.
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Isn't he lovely I don't know how people can't like him. I don't always agree with everything he says and he runs on a bit sometimes but even then I don't get annoyed by him I think he is just hyper intelligent and constantly formulating concepts and ideas. I don't even think it would bother him if I did disagree with him he would probably consider my reasoning respectfully and not just argue his point obsessively. Very charming individual I hope we honour him somehow soon with a literature award or something I also hope he will write another book but not a self help type book I would prefer a more memoir style presentation which can still be helpful without being like a textbook. I like when he shares personal experiences not just analyzes and dissects other peoples work although he is very apt at that also.
He is a great blessing to our culture and thankfully is about to release a new book. I can’t think of anyone who I respect as an intellectual right now as Dr. Peterson. Well said!
I’m 3 pages into this book writing this comment. I need a 10 minute break to digest each paragraph to possibly not comprehend anything properly or fully. I didn’t know something like this existed. Quite frankly I’ve never been terrified and exciting trying to digest something. How fantastic.
Wouldn't a better approach be to chew on it several times , then swallow and then digest it. Meaning, read it "leisurely" then read it again , then read it again and then attempt digestion.
This might be the most important video I've seen on youtube. I feel like the direction of my life changed & solidified at the same time somehow just now.
At 1:20, he talks about sewing the seeds of future ideas. To attempt to digest and hold everything is, to the best of my understanding imprudent. Though it would be outlandishly cool to be able to Nietschze at any given moment, I think this might be a hard work and dedication deal.
A good reason why experience in much reading both of Nietzsche's own work (very easy to do), and of the many bad and good works about him (of which Kaufmann's are clearly the best - and again, also a good bit of reading) are essential. Forty-five minutes is hardly any more than a very, very brief introduction (as I'm sure Professor Peterson would agree).
Take a literature course at university, where you read novels or philosophical works. Go to the lecture and feel ashamed of how much you overlooked. Repeat this as many times as needed, when you do not feel ashamed anymore you can consider yourself a competent reader. It´s amazing how much we overlook. I always look for the things - probably cause I have a inferiority issue - people are not saying, not doing or not being aware of, so I can get feel for who they are, and if I should take them serious or not.
Dr. Peterson, I have followed your work for over a dozen years and have been deeply inspired by it from start to finish, but this video is hands-down the most mind-blowing, astonishing work I have ever seen you do. Your careful, close reading of this paragraph is nothing short of brilliant.
I watched your interview with Saad and thought I was picking up on a nuanced view of Nietzsche--particularly when you touched on the idea that mans' most central values are religious in nature. I'm excited to watch the other videos on Nietzsche/Jung/Morality/Existentialism etc. I'm glad to have finally found an accessible contemporary thinker who explores these ideas.
I feel like Dr Peterson always provides a sort of meta-view, intermixed with his own original thought which provides a framework within which to understand these great thinkers in conjunction.
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I read beyond good and evil and the science and health at the same time when I was 18. I loved Neitche even though I am very religious... I gave up on western philosophy and concentrated on music and Chinese language learning and my children blahblah blah. But now I am drifting back to my Christian philosophical routes. God bless Jordan ... Real prayer is good deeds sir and your free lectures are a catalyst of good. May a divine sword defend your cross
I think I enjoy listening to Jordan Peterson and learning from him not just because he is significantly more intelligent than me, but because I am willing to admit that he is significantly more intelligent than me. His intelligence demands respect, and my demand is satisfied by his intelligence. A toast may need to be raised to never watching buzzfeed again.
Have You Seen Chef? Have you ever found it interesting that Buzzfeed, a list site, is inhabited by people who believe in classless societies and believe hierarchies aren't necessary?
@Doctor Drywell can you please be more civil in saying what you are saying? It reduces the impact of what you're trying to deliver. You seem extremely triggered which makes me take your criticism less seriously
@Doctor Drywell Also I'd like to point out that in this video he doesn't really talk about the phrase God is dead. The contradiction you're referring has not alot to do with this video.. so really it'd be appropriate if u could point out the contradictions from this video
@Doctor Drywell i saw what youre talking about and found it hard to verbalize, but i agree. also, i personally didnt like how he assumed hitler wanted to die in a hole, while claiming the thought came from some unknown scholar, paused and agreed with himself... then proceeded to insinuate that youre hitler too and you wanna die in a hole, cuz he human... (meanwhile the other guy is 1 in a billion and on such another level you can just forget about it... bah ha!) and he does this all with a snobby kinda question that goes unanswered cuz you cant defend yourself. no, i dont think hitler wanted to die in a hole. there. that kills that thought experiment.
You can't really construct your own values. That was Peterson's argument to that. I dont think the overman can exist to any man. Were not logical beings. We have methaporical chains on us at all times, whether you know it or not. The Christian Fundmentalist thinking may be flawed, but it has utility at the end of the day. And hell, maybe it ain't that flawed. Just pick a set of values that can benefit you and maybe others for the longest set of time. And attempt to be happy. I prefer a set a values that make me happy, though I'm a cynic at heart.
@Doctor Drywell I believe you can choose your values at the end of the day. You do have choice. But at the end of the day you're still shackled to an ethic/moral. That might as well be your god. Not to sound like I'm attacking you homie but, your whole diety argument is slightly flawed. You dont have to say you believe in god or not. At the end of the day it's kinda like a feeling. Though that is a poor explanation ,I dont really want to argue the existence of god. To be fair it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. Just try to be an ideal and try to enjoy life if you can.
*---------* *Here's the section he's referring to if you would like to read it before you watch the video* *-----------* It has gradually become clear to me what every great philosophy up till now has consisted of-namely, the confession of its originator, and a species of involuntary and unconscious auto-biography; and moreover that themoral (or immoral) purpose in every philosophy has constituted the true vital germ out of which the entire plant has always grown. Indeed, to understand how the abstruse-st metaphysical assertions of a philosopher have been arrived at, it is always well (and wise) to first ask oneself: ‘What morality do they (or does he) aim at?’ Accordingly, I do not believe that an ‘impulse to knowledge’ is the father of philosophy; but that another impulse, here as elsewhere, has only made use of knowledge (and mistaken knowledge!) as an instrument. But whoever considers the fundamental impulses of man with a view to determining how far they may have here acted as INSPIRING GENII (or as demons and cobolds), will find that they have all practiced philosophy at one time or another, and that each one of them would have been only too glad to look upon itself as the ultimate end of existence and the legitimate LORD over all the other impulses. For every impulse is imperious, and as SUCH, attempts to philosophize. To be sure, in the case of scholars, in the case of really scientific men, it may be otherwise-‘better,’ if you will; there there may really be such a thing as an ‘impulse to knowledge,’ some kind of small, independent clock-work, which, when well wound up, works away industriously to that end, WITHOUT the rest of the scholarly impulses taking any material part therein. The actual ‘interests’ of the scholar, therefore, are generally in quite another direction-in the family, perhaps, or in money-making, or in politics; it is, in fact, almost indifferent at what point of research his little machine is placed, and whether the hopeful young worker becomes a good philologist, a mushroom specialist, or a chemist; he is not CHARACTERIZED by becoming this or that. In the philosopher, on the contrary, there is absolutely nothing impersonal; and above all, his morality furnishes a decided and decisive testimony as to WHO HE IS,-that is to say, in what order the deepest impulses ofhis nature stand to each other.
This "paragraph" is incredibly poorly worded. In part because it is no doubt a translation from German. Trying to process and understand it is as useful as trying to understand String Theory. Nietzsche clearly did not have enough time to make the paragraph smaller. Pity.
Every fool who has reduced himself to a "Clockwork" has gone mad. Usually, they drink themselves to death. The knowledge that one is an autonomous being with the capability to "Act" is the road to wisdom and health of mind body and soul.
I had the same experiences that Prof. Peterson had been through while reading Nietzsche which continuously blow my mind away. But even though i had the same enthusiasm to explain it or articulate my own ideas about this book to the people or even to myself i am always finding myself not qualified for those skills. In here, in this video, i again felt the same enlightenment and inspiration by Prof. Peterson's skill to explain the book so clearly and accuralately that my mind blow away again not only with the thought of Nietzsche but intelligence of his own.
“It has gradually become clear to me what every great philosophy up till now has consisted of - namely, the confession of its originator, and a species of involuntary and unconscious autobiography; and moreover that the moral (or immoral) purpose in every philosophy has constituted the true vital germ out of which the entire plant has always grown.” Nietzsche
When Nietzcshe said that a philosopher is not primarily motivated by a desire to accumulate knowledge, it was like Bobby Flay saying that a chef is not motivated by a desire to acquire food.
When Nietzsche says a philosopher is not primarily motivated by a desire to accumulate knowledge, he's saying also that he himself is not primarily seeking knowledge. He must have another agenda as well,, but may not be entirely transparent about what it is.
I took it as him saying that a philosopher views the acquisition of knowledge or argumentation as a means to satisfy their will to power. The will to power here doesn't mean the will to political power (though it is sometimes interpreted as such) but rather the will to be powerful (the is, the full maximization and realization of one's capacities).
I think one of your internal spirits wants you to quench your thirst by taking a drink of that water, but some other spirits are preventing you from doing so. Just something to be aware of. Stay hydrated!
Around 10 minutes or so where you give a great answer for why someone might want to read a great philosopher (like Nietzsche)-thank you! This is a great reason for why a formal education is unique, too; (a good formal education, anyway) exposes you and has you engaging in dialectic with great material that professors and other students have recently read together as a community of learners, which builds over the 4 years. I’ve been watching vids of you to see what people are liking (and not liking) about you. But I’ve just been enjoying the way you lay out your thoughts. It’s awesome people are thinking about the objectively positive writings of Nietzsche that are still the most useful and poetic phenomenology-type philosophy I’ve read.
I gotta exclaim that I am so happy to have a Professor, an academic teacher by my choosing. Dr. Peterson, thank you for accepting your coronation into Public Figure-hood.
Such an amazing video! This is my 4th time watching it, his enthusiasm while deciphering Nietzsche's texts is like watching a child play with a new toy.
gngndthg jyhhf i know what i am up to, sure i do. i know what my goal is and how i will achieve it, but why i want that goal is something i dont know myself , as with everything, but the desire for goals is an inevitable part of human being. humans need to have a goal no matter now frivolous
Thank you for unpacking this paragraph from Beyond Good and Evil and explaining the process of Nietzsche's writing. It's a very fruitful way of understanding these kinds of texts. I hope there will be a lot more of these kinds of videos dealing with the existential philosophers, especially Dostoevsky and Kierkegaard.
Recently purchased a biography on Nietzsche - "I am Dynamite" at the back it references some his aphorisms, I read through them and stopped dead at this one - "The Kingdom Of Heaven is a condition of the heart" (I've shortened it slightly) incredible.
Honestly was about to throw in the towel on this book. Glad I found this Dr P. “Dense” is perfect description. Gonna put on my big boy pants and give it another go.
to all you guys struggling with nietzsche read paragraph 27 from beyond good and evil. his works are not supposed to be read casually, they are supposed to be hard and therefore any form of intelectual struggle which in the end produces interpretation is valuable - don't give up because its worth to get through it
You don't need to understand everything (or anything) he is saying on your first read. As a matter of fact you're not going to. This is a book that you need to revisit over and over again.
--------- Here's the section to which he's referring, read before watching! ----------- It has gradually become clear to me what every great philosophy up till now has consisted of-namely, the confession of its originator, and a species of involuntary and unconscious auto-biography; and moreover that the moral (or immoral) purpose in every philosophy has constituted the true vital germ out of which the entire plant has always grown. Indeed, to understand how the abstract metaphysical assertions of a philosopher have been arrived at, it is always well (and wise) to first ask oneself: ‘What morality do they (or does he) aim at?’ Accordingly, I do not believe that an ‘impulse to knowledge’ is the father of philosophy; but that another impulse, here as elsewhere, has only made use of knowledge (and mistaken knowledge!) as an instrument. But whoever considers the fundamental impulses of man with a view to determining how far they may have here acted as INSPIRING GENII (or as demons), will find that they have all practiced philosophy at one time or another, and that each one of them would have been only too glad to look upon itself as the ultimate end of existence and the legitimate LORD over all the other impulses. For every impulse is imperious, and as SUCH, attempts to philosophize. To be sure, in the case of scholars, in the case of really scientific men, it may be otherwise-‘better,’ if you will; there there may really be such a thing as an ‘impulse to knowledge,’ some kind of small, independent clock-work, which, when well wound up, works away industriously to that end, WITHOUT the rest of the scholarly impulses taking any material part therein. The actual ‘interests’ of the scholar, therefore, are generally in quite another direction-in the family, perhaps, or in money-making, or in politics; it is, in fact, almost indifferent at what point of research his little machine is placed, and whether the hopeful young worker becomes a good philologist, a mushroom specialist, or a chemist; he is not CHARACTERIZED by becoming this or that. In the philosopher, on the contrary, there is absolutely nothing impersonal; and above all, his morality furnishes a decided and decisive testimony as to WHO HE IS,-that is to say, in what order the deepest impulses of his nature stand to each other.
Great video! You're passionate about "knowing thyself" which I find to be a rare quality in most "philosophers". The first chapter in Beyond Good and Evil is one of the great masterpieces of psychology, imo.
While I was listening to a girl in my class present her topic of Jihad I started to think about what she was doing. I had the idea that the information that she recounted was the information that her value system inspired her to seek out. This, and how she used examples to convey her ideas, showed me that we are all unconsciously revealing our aim and lives in our words.
I just had this book in my hand two seconds ago. I picked it up a few months ago and it’s been sitting in a box since. As I read the authors name I heard Jordan Peterson’s voice pronouncing it in his funny Canadian accent lol. I put the book down and came to bed and scrolling through UA-cam feed this video popped up on me . Synchronicity! I have to read this I guess
@Jovan Jovanović Thats too much but I have a similar experience with TSZ, Stuff hurts my soul and rips my hearth, i'm trying to trespass it in a lighter way, reading the whole thing fast, so you can gain perspective of the chapters in relation to the others and the general meaning of the book as a whole, Nietzsche once said he hated his readers who stumbled and hurt with each stone they encounter.
But he also said that the one who writes with blood knows that blood is spirit, and he who writes with sentences wants not to read but to be learned by memory. And man they sure get imprinted on the sensitive, he's also a poet besides being a master. His critics have called him a spider who catches the gullible, in his net of sentimentalism and romanticism, which I found partially true, there's plenty of suffering on incarnating his philosophy, understanding it... for a while I questioned the validity of wisdom itself, I changed to other literary generes and backed off.
If only people would stop and think before they speak, as much a he does. Makes this (personally) challenging book far more comprehensible for us smaller minded individuals.
Dear Prof. Peterson Thank you very much for taking the time to upload this and use your knowledge of Nietzsche to spread wisdom across the Globe. Also, hats off to you on the political frontier of Canada. Don't let the Bastards beat you down! Bests, UK
I bet that when he speaks with journalists he can oversee the conversation on slow motion as the spiderman movie and, based on his observations about their intentions and narcissism, decide on the degree of power and eloquence velocity to instill to his words to disarm them completely
I just asked myself, what would Jordan Peterson think about the book "Beyond good and evil", so I just googled "jordan Peterson Nietzsche" and there it was. Thank you Sir! I will really enjoy watching it.
That "if you don't believe in something you couldn't organise your vision" thing is spot on. It happened to me just a few weeks ago that i realised i couldn't focus on the things in front of me (in terms of sight). And it had begun when i read nietzsche and oscar wilde (and a few others) and saw some fantastic movies. It made me re-examine why i believed in the things i believed in, what my biases were etc. I've to almost strengthen the muscles around my eyes and gradually reprogram them to look at the things in front of me. It's very tough
the fact that i could understood the sentences despite me not being an english native speaker, even before he proceeded to explain them, made me want to read the whole book. thanks for the upload
17:00-24:30 Good reasoning for the podcast 28:20 There is a difference between a philosophers being and mind , or philosophers mind in a text book 36:20 With the questions you create a tree.
The first time I read Beyond Good and Evil I was 14 years old. I took some of it in, but found Nietzsche to be profoundly arrogant, though at times correct but spoke with too much certainty. I read again it when I was 18. I threw it in the corner. It was even worse. Finally I went back to it at age 28. It was then that I appreciated it a bit.
I`ve read most of the comments and suddenly felt an obligation to share a thought. Here he cites one of the humanity sharpest, most philosophically inclined, mind. What has eluded me till now, though this video had me contemplating the idea of beyond good and evil for far too many times, is that it ain`t the greatest one. Such a relief. Tear briefly shed finds its` closure.
Dr. Peterson I love your vids and they really help me get closer to complex concepts and ideas but.... every time you grab a glass or a bottle of water and you DON'T drink from it for ages I just can't help it and lose focus. I don't wanna rely on just listening cause you are very expressive and your body language complements enormously your message, so PLEASE ..take a sip , TAKE A SIP of WATER ! for Nietzsche's, Jung's sake ! :) Jokes aside , thank you professor ! I've been a Sam Harris listener and disciple for a long time and now yours too. The debates you guys had, first one included, were spectacular ! Glad to know everything's being sorted out now with the U of T. All the best !
Your lectures are indispensable to anyone whom wishes to delve deeper into the history of epistemology and the humanities. I would not touch drugs with a bargepole and so videos like yours are my only way of intoxicating myself. Drinking from the fountain of knowledge and becoming inebriated.
It's fun to know that even someone like Jordan is having a hard time interpreting the density of each sentence. In other words, I may not be that stupid after all.
31:05 Peterson describes one of Nietzsche’s most infamous lines on the nature of power. Before I even gave Nietzsche a chance, this quote of his was the primary reason I did not allow myself serious inquiry into his work. I’m glad to have that Quote explained better and also to realize that in his greater body of work he is actually cautioning against this tendency. In other words I have been selling Nietzsche short this whole time as I hadn’t thought about it myself, or delved into the literature seriously, taking the footnotes provided from my feminist philosophy teacher as dogma. Thanks for elucidating this and emancipating my mind Professor Peterson.
Thank you for posting this, and all the other videos you have posted in the past. I am learning so much from watching - and trying to live - your videos. Thanks again!
Nietzsche's books are great. He helps me put it all together and see ahead. Sometimes the magnifying glass is on something I had vague ideas about, not knowing how it could or would make sense together and it's in the grey area so to say, and it would bother me, but then Fritz puts it all in a few sentences for you. Boom!
This is exactly what I’ve been trying to articulate for so long! Thank you on the very deepest level, a truly life changing affirmation for a young man like me
This exposition of Beyond Good and Evil is one of the best I've seen. The danger of BG&E is the exploration of the Zoroastrian value system which is vastly different from Christianity which is based on the faith in the opposition of values (good versus evil, bravery versus cowardice, truth versus deceit...). Nietzsche lays bare more than anyone the idea that this faith in opposition of values is unfounded and even harmful.
I love the way he free associates as he expresses his ideas. He has admitted that he learns to understand what he is thinking by listening to what and how he says what he says....and that is true. Often enough we can learn from what we say if we listen to ourselves. We can also evolve better ways of saying what we think by doing this.
Something so deep he has the genius to articulate it that a interested student of such knowledge can understand it. This is an video but still valuable.
It's a really inspiring quote, because in that sense, everyone is a philosopher. Or the philosopher's stone is the most basic archetype there is to self-awareness.
The part about man being a vessel for spirits that are one eyed monsters fighting to create their own agenda within man and the world reminds me of the Gunas in Hindu philosophy that fight for the top or control of the wheel. Rajas (passion/activity), Sattva(goodness/balance), and the Tamas (destruction/chaos). They dwell and struggle for control within each person but none ever keep control of the wheel of Time or stay on top as the wheel will always spin. It also relates to the principles of Sulfur, Mercury, and Salt in Alchemy....this talk is amazing. I had ordered beyond good and evil earlier today then stumbled upon this lecture. So glad I did.
I found this video really helpful! As I have attempted to read Beyond Good and Evil and really struggle with understanding precisely what Nietzsche is getting at in particular sentences. Somehow I chose one of the hardest philosophers to start with. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't after the truth.
I would suggest a more chronological approach to philosophy. Nietzsche was a philologist and wrote about the historical ideas of the human species while developing his arguments.
A great lecture. In my interpretation, probably the most important motive for Nietzsche is the affirmation of life as the highest value. The will to power isn't necessary a need to dominate others, it's a vitalistic life force, "the cardinal drive of the organism", the need to express one's power and overcome boundaries, which, for Nietzsche, is more fundamental than the drive for self-preservation, because self-preservation is derived from it. Nietzsche basically tells us to approach all things in life in a manner that enables us to "feel an increasing feeling of life in us". He feels that a lot of people in modern times aren't "getting" that feeling and so they develop pathologies like becoming obsessed with "objective" factual knowledge (aka becoming a "walking encyclopedia"), start believing in an immortal soul and hoping for an afterlife, denouncing life and becoming ascetics etc. He basically tells us to listen to our bodies to know what's best for us, as strange as it may sound.
I understand Its been a while since you wrote this but I have a question; How do we listen to our bodies to figure out whats best for us?(in simple terms if possible)
@@his.name.is.sw-g Listen to your taste. In everything - food and drink, climate and place, method of relaxation. Pay attention to what gives you the most vitality and what robs you of it. Avoid stimuli that rob you of vitality, seek out those that nourish you. Use this to adjust your "spiritual" and "bodily" diet in as "selfish" manner as posible, meaning trusting only your instincts and not any recipe given to you by somebody else. Your taste is actually just a commonly used word for what is in reality your instinct for self-preservation or self-defence - a form of will to power. And the will to power is the will of the body, because it is the will of organic life, according to Nietzsche. Life's imperative, in the form of your taste, should guide you to your own version of flourishing, as Nietzsche seems to believe. All this that I've described is taken directly from the book Ecce Homo, chapter "Why I Am So Clever", sections 2 and 8. You can check it out yourself.
Please don't be offended, but I uploaded an edited version where the audio quality is improved. ua-cam.com/video/esBvDO9YPy0/v-deo.html If you would like me to take it down, let me know, but the link is unlisted and not monetized. Hopefully it helps out a few people here. I can see several quick ways to improve your audio sessions in the future too, if you would appreciate help.
Thank you very much for your skill and time. I recommend you to write personally to Jordan Peterson's email. You could help him technically a lot to disseminate with more success his message. Thanks again!
My copy of this book came in the mail today. I'm having to rewind this a bit pretty frequently to stay on task. This book should be a healthy challenge. Can't wait to read it again in 5 years too
The room ! Why would you give such an amazing lecture in these conditions. Bring in trees, a better chair, a library and woodwork. He deserves way better !
These circumstances are all conscious choices Dr. Peterson has made. He's not wearing a shirt, either, although he is wearing suspenders. All part of the effect.
Great video, really interesting perspectives. As a philosophy student I can't help but comment on what I didn't agree with, rather than on the many things that I got out of the video. Discussing what one agrees on isn't that interesting anyway! So here is my 5 cents on the first sentence: "Gradually it has become clear to me what every great philosophy so far has been: namely a personal confession of its author and a kind of involuntary and unconscious memoir" (Taken from the Kaufman translation). I don't take Nietzsche to really be "alluding to the fact that the desire to make an autobiographical recounting is so deeply imbedded in people" (paraphrasing around the 18 minute mark). I take Nietzsche to be saying that philosophical systems say more about the philosopher and the culture in which he (at that time presumably a he) is imbedded in, than about the issues that the philosopher claims to be investigating -such as "truth". In which case "personal confession" and "memoir" aren't to be taken literally, they are about how philosophers subjectivity and personal context shine through their feeble attempts of dressing their investigations in a veil of objectivity. The fact that professor Peterson interpreted Nietzsche to be saying something profound about humans proclivity to tell our stories is kind of funny, seeing that she herself has developed a self-authoring program. Maybe Petersons (or anybody elses for that matter) interpretation of Nietzsche is "a kind of involuntary and unconscious memoir"!
Peterson's interpretation of Nietzsche, all of Peterson's papers and published work, _are_ an involuntary and unconscious autobiographical memoir. We're learning about him as an individual, about his current environment, and about his evolutionary history going back to the beginning of time. It's inescapable. Just as such works reveal say the language of the author, they reveal pattern's of thought, specific axiomatic foundations, and an infinite number of other autobiographical facts are hinted at and can be gleaned by careful reading. The meta analysis of any such work can't help but be a richer well of truth than just the surface pronouncements made.
Almost like that time when he talks about how you always need a high goal in life, and then reveals that he scored extremely highly in conscientiousness and spends his weekends fixing up some house in the woods.
+Eric Guier Or you could say his 99th percentile conscientiousness is a consequence of his understanding of the imperative of having a worthwhile goal, not the other way around
I love how he´s always picking the water cup up but then becomes engaged in what he´s saying and ends up putting it down without having had a drink
That is awesome. Well observed my good sir!
I noticed this again and again and had to pause to come check the comments for someone else who did!
Einstein would accidentally forget to eat and tie his shoes.
It happens.
Looks like he forgot his shirt too.
Noah Trim..its a look alot of self employed use. Casual tee under a jacket, its a thing. Like no socks in dress shoes.
"Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound to the crowd strive for obscurity"
Nietzsche was commenting on Hegel, Kant, Fichte. The PoMos and Derrida in particular wrote very much in the Hegelian style, so that could be why N had them pegged before they were even born.
Nietzsche also stated that the philosopher fears being understood more than being misunderstood.
makes me think of the majority of academic readings.
Sounds like he was describing hipsters
Some 1910 translation of Twlight of the Idols has another version "What? Art though looking for something? Thou wouldst fain multiply thyself tenfold, a hundred-fold? Thou seekest followers? Seek Ciphers!"... We are never understood-hence our authority".
Peterson's comment at 36:01 is excellent: "Nietzsche's book is not a book at all - it's a series of bombs.... And each sentence is a bomb. Each sentence blows things up that people don't know exist".
Nietzsche was purely human, compelled by suffering an could not find a way towards any satisfaction in life, with the exception criticism. I got to tell ya I would much much rather be at peace than a constant handwringer ! !
Goober Mcgilicuty it is easy to mock the dead.
@@goobermcgilicuty3754 yeah it's easy to live in a delusion than understand reality and still push ahead because most people give up on everything once they understand reality.
The first chapter destroys you.
@James Cain you begin to understand...
Ran into Dr. Jordan Peterson on the streets of Toronto: "How you doin today, Doc?"
"Well, it depends on what you mean by 'doing.' And it depends on what you mean by 'today.'"
"Now, I've been thinking about this a lot, and you can tell me what you think about it."
"It doesn't seem to me to be self-evident that when we're conceptualizing the nomenclature of a word like 'today' within the substrate of a dominance hierarchy, let's say, that we're not actually utilizing an a priori interpretive framework."
"That seems to me like a good way of thinking about it."
"Like, you might say it's proper, by the same token -- roughly speaking -- to order your (How would you put it?) your ... your manifestation of thinking in such a manner that 'today,' or 'doing,' for that matter, is predicated upon an evolutionary understanding of the archetypal representation of these utterances as they'e been portrayed in great literature."
"And why the hell not?!"
"It isn't obvious to me, eh, as far as I'm concerned, that this kind of ideology isn't part and parcel of a threat to the neo-marxist identity-politics approach to Jungian chaos and order. I see this as substantiated in the humanities departments of the university as it functions today. Yunno ... as the post-modernist types would have it."
"So, so ... You have to give the devil his due, you know, because the devil is in the details."
"It's no joke, man. Not bloody damn well. Not at all. AT ALLLLLL."
"And fair enough, you know. More power to ya as far as I'm concerned."
"And how are YOU doing today?"
How long did this take? Be honest
Yeah man, gotcha. Wish more of these comentators could be this lucid.
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This is pure gold. As soon as i read "And whybthe hell not?" I understood where this was going
Anyone else read this in his voice?
“The more poetic the author happens to be, the more the case that his or her writings contain within it the seeds of future ideas.”
Not always the case. Have you read Whitman? Whitman’s poetry could be classified as poetic, but it was so ignorantly self absorbed one would wonder if Whitman could see past the tip of his nose, let alone the next 5 minutes.
@@robertrich4473 why's the case you'd say?
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thanks for this information!
Thanks a bunch, This is a great tip.
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***** Was that really necessary?
Im never been so fond of a man that lived in my lifetime. ..thank you professor
Isn't he lovely I don't know how people can't like him. I don't always agree with everything he says and he runs on a bit sometimes but even then I don't get annoyed by him I think he is just hyper intelligent and constantly formulating concepts and ideas. I don't even think it would bother him if I did disagree with him he would probably consider my reasoning respectfully and not just argue his point obsessively. Very charming individual I hope we honour him somehow soon with a literature award or something I also hope he will write another book but not a self help type book I would prefer a more memoir style presentation which can still be helpful without being like a textbook. I like when he shares personal experiences not just analyzes and dissects other peoples work although he is very apt at that also.
He is a great blessing to our culture and thankfully is about to release a new book. I can’t think of anyone who I respect as an intellectual right now as Dr. Peterson. Well said!
me as well brother.
Same bro . This guy and Elon
Going to see him live next Wednesday. I'm so glad our time here overlapped.
"what makes you think you're a reliable judge of what it is that you're up to."
simply a bomb
I’m 3 pages into this book writing this comment. I need a 10 minute break to digest each paragraph to possibly not comprehend anything properly or fully. I didn’t know something like this existed. Quite frankly I’ve never been terrified and exciting trying to digest something. How fantastic.
For me it was the 'On the Geneology of Morals'. It was a slog getting through it but wow.
i bought that book and i try reading it again and again, but i can't understand anything
Wouldn't a better approach be to chew on it several times , then swallow and then digest it. Meaning, read it "leisurely" then read it again , then read it again and then attempt digestion.
when NPC's read philosophy
@@aldrickpeterme too,but I will never give up 😊.
This might be the most important video I've seen on youtube. I feel like the direction of my life changed & solidified at the same time somehow just now.
Almost like a, recapitulation? ;)
But have you seen butt cheeks sonic?
Prof. Peterson, it would be awesome if you could share some advice on reading and how to comprehend and retain what is written.
At 1:20, he talks about sewing the seeds of future ideas. To attempt to digest and hold everything is, to the best of my understanding imprudent. Though it would be outlandishly cool to be able to Nietschze at any given moment, I think this might be a hard work and dedication deal.
A good reason why experience in much reading both of Nietzsche's own work (very easy to do), and of the many bad and good works about him (of which Kaufmann's are clearly the best - and again, also a good bit of reading) are essential. Forty-five minutes is hardly any more than a very, very brief introduction (as I'm sure Professor Peterson would agree).
May I recommend a great book on that by the great editors of the Great Books series, Mortimer Adler and Charles Van Doren? It is the best.
Take a literature course at university, where you read novels or philosophical works. Go to the lecture and feel ashamed of how much you overlooked. Repeat this as many times as needed, when you do not feel ashamed anymore you can consider yourself a competent reader. It´s amazing how much we overlook. I always look for the things - probably cause I have a inferiority issue - people are not saying, not doing or not being aware of, so I can get feel for who they are, and if I should take them serious or not.
+Sam Chop true, thanks!
Dr. Peterson, I have followed your work for over a dozen years and have been deeply inspired by it from start to finish, but this video is hands-down the most mind-blowing, astonishing work I have ever seen you do. Your careful, close reading of this paragraph is nothing short of brilliant.
I watched your interview with Saad and thought I was picking up on a nuanced view of Nietzsche--particularly when you touched on the idea that mans' most central values are religious in nature. I'm excited to watch the other videos on Nietzsche/Jung/Morality/Existentialism etc. I'm glad to have finally found an accessible contemporary thinker who explores these ideas.
when the teacher says "justify your answer"
The teacher said nobody has to, yesterday.
I feel like Dr Peterson always provides a sort of meta-view, intermixed with his own original thought which provides a framework within which to understand these great thinkers in conjunction.
If you listen carefully, you can hear his story and his aims... He can't help but reveal them.
How right you are sir! If I work hard enough I can get you to spend some time on youtubemusicsucks.com. And that is something like a new music community who love Psychology, David Bowie, and Can (the band)! Check it.
what.. what does that have to do with the content of what he's saying
oh wow, so you're trying to say, he "explained" what friedrich was saying? lol, everybody is horribly verbose in JP comments.
Well put...
I read beyond good and evil and the science and health at the same time when I was 18. I loved Neitche even though I am very religious... I gave up on western philosophy and concentrated on music and Chinese language learning and my children blahblah blah. But now I am drifting back to my Christian philosophical routes. God bless Jordan ... Real prayer is good deeds sir and your free lectures are a catalyst of good. May a divine sword defend your cross
Adam Snyder Please read Nietzsche again, I'm sure your opinion about your 'roots' will change drastically.
Wisdom is a woman and she always loves a warrior. Thus spoke Zarathustra.
I think I enjoy listening to Jordan Peterson and learning from him not just because he is significantly more intelligent than me, but because I am willing to admit that he is significantly more intelligent than me. His intelligence demands respect, and my demand is satisfied by his intelligence. A toast may need to be raised to never watching buzzfeed again.
Have You Seen Chef? Have you ever found it interesting that Buzzfeed, a list site, is inhabited by people who believe in classless societies and believe hierarchies aren't necessary?
me too
He just read alot more books and hes born into a culture that gave the most gifts to white men to thrive.
@@heathervogt3409 boring
It's not just intelligence - it's what he's done with it. He's put it to good and meaningful use.
Please more Nietzsche videos. You're analysis is remarkable!
@Doctor Drywell can you please be more civil in saying what you are saying? It reduces the impact of what you're trying to deliver. You seem extremely triggered which makes me take your criticism less seriously
@Doctor Drywell Also I'd like to point out that in this video he doesn't really talk about the phrase God is dead. The contradiction you're referring has not alot to do with this video.. so really it'd be appropriate if u could point out the contradictions from this video
@Doctor Drywell i saw what youre talking about and found it hard to verbalize, but i agree. also, i personally didnt like how he assumed hitler wanted to die in a hole, while claiming the thought came from some unknown scholar, paused and agreed with himself... then proceeded to insinuate that youre hitler too and you wanna die in a hole, cuz he human... (meanwhile the other guy is 1 in a billion and on such another level you can just forget about it... bah ha!) and he does this all with a snobby kinda question that goes unanswered cuz you cant defend yourself. no, i dont think hitler wanted to die in a hole. there. that kills that thought experiment.
You can't really construct your own values. That was Peterson's argument to that. I dont think the overman can exist to any man. Were not logical beings. We have methaporical chains on us at all times, whether you know it or not. The Christian Fundmentalist thinking may be flawed, but it has utility at the end of the day. And hell, maybe it ain't that flawed. Just pick a set of values that can benefit you and maybe others for the longest set of time. And attempt to be happy. I prefer a set a values that make me happy, though I'm a cynic at heart.
@Doctor Drywell I believe you can choose your values at the end of the day. You do have choice. But at the end of the day you're still shackled to an ethic/moral. That might as well be your god. Not to sound like I'm attacking you homie but, your whole diety argument is slightly flawed. You dont have to say you believe in god or not. At the end of the day it's kinda like a feeling. Though that is a poor explanation ,I dont really want to argue the existence of god. To be fair it really doesn't matter at the end of the day. Just try to be an ideal and try to enjoy life if you can.
*---------* *Here's the section he's referring to if you would like to read it before you watch the video* *-----------*
It has gradually become clear to me what every great philosophy up till now has consisted of-namely, the confession of its originator, and a species of involuntary and unconscious auto-biography; and moreover that themoral (or immoral) purpose in every philosophy has constituted the true vital germ out of which the entire plant has always grown. Indeed, to understand how the abstruse-st metaphysical assertions of a philosopher have been arrived at, it is always well (and wise) to first ask oneself: ‘What morality do they (or does he) aim at?’ Accordingly, I do not believe that an ‘impulse to knowledge’ is the father of philosophy; but that another impulse, here as elsewhere, has only made use of knowledge (and mistaken knowledge!) as an instrument.
But whoever considers the fundamental impulses of man with a view to determining how far they may have here acted as INSPIRING GENII (or as demons and cobolds), will find that they have all practiced philosophy at one time or another, and that each one of them would have been only too glad to look upon itself as the ultimate end of existence and the legitimate LORD over all the other impulses. For every impulse is imperious, and as SUCH, attempts to philosophize. To be sure, in the case of scholars, in the case of really scientific men, it may be otherwise-‘better,’ if you will; there there may really be such a thing as an ‘impulse to knowledge,’ some kind of small, independent clock-work, which, when well wound up, works away industriously to that end, WITHOUT the rest of the scholarly impulses taking any material part therein. The actual ‘interests’ of the scholar, therefore, are generally in quite another direction-in the family, perhaps, or in money-making, or in politics; it is, in fact,
almost indifferent at what point of research his little machine is placed, and whether the hopeful young worker becomes a good philologist, a mushroom specialist, or a chemist; he is not CHARACTERIZED by becoming this or that. In the philosopher, on the contrary, there is absolutely nothing impersonal; and above all, his morality furnishes a decided and decisive testimony as to WHO HE IS,-that is to say, in what order the deepest impulses ofhis nature stand to each other.
Indolent Sloth thank you!
Please add my thanks. But you contradict your title by your efforts. Blush from the earned praise.
This "paragraph" is incredibly poorly worded. In part because it is no doubt a translation from German.
Trying to process and understand it is as useful as trying to understand String Theory.
Nietzsche clearly did not have enough time to make the paragraph smaller. Pity.
Every fool who has reduced himself to a "Clockwork" has gone mad. Usually, they drink themselves to death. The knowledge that one is an autonomous being with the capability to "Act" is the road to wisdom and health of mind body and soul.
thanks!
I had the same experiences that Prof. Peterson had been through while reading Nietzsche which continuously blow my mind away. But even though i had the same enthusiasm to explain it or articulate my own ideas about this book to the people or even to myself i am always finding myself not qualified for those skills.
In here, in this video, i again felt the same enlightenment and inspiration by Prof. Peterson's skill to explain the book so clearly and accuralately that my mind blow away again not only with the thought of Nietzsche but intelligence of his own.
“It has gradually become clear to me what every great philosophy up till now has consisted of - namely, the confession of its originator, and a species of involuntary and unconscious autobiography; and moreover that the moral (or immoral) purpose in every philosophy has constituted the true vital germ out of which the entire plant has always grown.”
Nietzsche
When Nietzcshe said that a philosopher is not primarily motivated by a desire to accumulate knowledge, it was like Bobby Flay saying that a chef is not motivated by a desire to acquire food.
When Nietzsche says a philosopher is not primarily motivated by a desire to accumulate knowledge, he's saying also that he himself is not primarily seeking knowledge. He must have another agenda as well,, but may not be entirely transparent about what it is.
I was, indeed, motivated by the desire of knowing the truth. That’s why, probably, God had mercy on me.
I took it as him saying that a philosopher views the acquisition of knowledge or argumentation as a means to satisfy their will to power. The will to power here doesn't mean the will to political power (though it is sometimes interpreted as such) but rather the will to be powerful (the is, the full maximization and realization of one's capacities).
Thanks for this, the world needs more people like you.
Tend to get beaten to pieces
I think one of your internal spirits wants you to quench your thirst by taking a drink of that water, but some other spirits are preventing you from doing so. Just something to be aware of. Stay hydrated!
# MickJenkins
His thirst for knowledge is stronger than his physical instincts.
Around 10 minutes or so where you give a great answer for why someone might want to read a great philosopher (like Nietzsche)-thank you! This is a great reason for why a formal education is unique, too; (a good formal education, anyway) exposes you and has you engaging in dialectic with great material that professors and other students have recently read together as a community of learners, which builds over the 4 years. I’ve been watching vids of you to see what people are liking (and not liking) about you. But I’ve just been enjoying the way you lay out your thoughts. It’s awesome people are thinking about the objectively positive writings of Nietzsche that are still the most useful and poetic phenomenology-type philosophy I’ve read.
First read this outdoors beside a lake on a warm Spring day at 24 as an undergrad and it changed my life forever for the better!
I gotta exclaim that I am so happy to have a Professor, an academic teacher by my choosing. Dr. Peterson, thank you for accepting your coronation into Public Figure-hood.
He does have that engaging panache that makes me reminisce about my old C.Psych prof. K.C. Hoffer.
Bodhi Sattva ststsytyrtrrreeeyyeyryryst
I concur
Such an amazing video! This is my 4th time watching it, his enthusiasm while deciphering Nietzsche's texts is like watching a child play with a new toy.
"What makes you think you're a reliable judge of what you're up to?" 26:00
gngndthg jyhhf i know what i am up to, sure i do. i know what my goal is and how i will achieve it, but why i want that goal is something i dont know myself , as with everything, but the desire for goals is an inevitable part of human being. humans need to have a goal no matter now frivolous
You think you know what your goal is. But you may have goals you are not aware of.
gngndthg jyhhf Nice profile pic...I think, I'm not certain.
maybe my subconscious wants to die like Hitler in a bunker, with the world in flames above me?
that made me feel atacked, and i loved it.
Thank you for unpacking this paragraph from Beyond Good and Evil and explaining the process of Nietzsche's writing. It's a very fruitful way of understanding these kinds of texts. I hope there will be a lot more of these kinds of videos dealing with the existential philosophers, especially Dostoevsky and Kierkegaard.
Academy of ideas is daring
Dr. Peterson is an enigma. I turn my volume up to hear him better, but the only thing that gets louder is the background noise and not his voice.
"its a series of bombs"
I am not a man, I am dynamite!
Recently purchased a biography on Nietzsche - "I am Dynamite" at the back it references some his aphorisms, I read through them and stopped dead at this one - "The Kingdom Of Heaven is a condition of the heart" (I've shortened it slightly) incredible.
Cs lewis said hell is a condition of the heart, heaven is the opposite, heaven is reality itself.
Honestly was about to throw in the towel on this book. Glad I found this Dr P. “Dense” is perfect description. Gonna put on my big boy pants and give it another go.
How's it going?
Yeah how is it going? I just started a month ago and it's taking me atleast a week for one page and I'm not sure if I'm understanding it at all.
to all you guys struggling with nietzsche read paragraph 27 from beyond good and evil. his works are not supposed to be read casually, they are supposed to be hard and therefore any form of intelectual struggle which in the end produces interpretation is valuable - don't give up because its worth to get through it
@@cooldude-on9gm thanks man, that's nice.
You don't need to understand everything (or anything) he is saying on your first read. As a matter of fact you're not going to. This is a book that you need to revisit over and over again.
19:41 I can understand that this is true for most people but for me it has been involuntary & conscious felt as if I was trapped in my own head
--------- Here's the section to which he's referring, read before watching! -----------
It has gradually become clear to me what every great philosophy up till now has consisted of-namely, the confession of its originator, and a species of involuntary and unconscious auto-biography; and moreover that the moral (or immoral) purpose in every philosophy has constituted the true vital germ out of which the entire plant has always grown. Indeed, to understand how the abstract metaphysical assertions of a philosopher have been arrived at, it is always well (and wise) to first ask oneself: ‘What morality do they (or does he) aim at?’ Accordingly, I do not believe that an ‘impulse to knowledge’ is the father of philosophy; but that another impulse, here as elsewhere, has only made use of knowledge (and mistaken knowledge!) as an instrument.
But whoever considers the fundamental impulses of man with a view to determining how far they may have here acted as INSPIRING GENII (or as demons), will find that they have all practiced philosophy at one time or another, and that each one of them would have been only too glad to look upon itself as the ultimate end of existence and the legitimate LORD over all the other impulses. For every impulse is imperious, and as SUCH, attempts to philosophize. To be sure, in the case of scholars, in the case of really scientific men, it may be otherwise-‘better,’ if you will; there there may really be such a thing as an ‘impulse to knowledge,’ some kind of small, independent clock-work, which, when well wound up, works away industriously to that end, WITHOUT the rest of the scholarly impulses taking any material part therein. The actual ‘interests’ of the scholar, therefore, are generally in quite another direction-in the family, perhaps, or in money-making, or in politics; it is, in fact,
almost indifferent at what point of research his little machine is placed, and whether the hopeful young worker becomes a good philologist, a mushroom specialist, or a chemist; he is not CHARACTERIZED by becoming this or that. In the philosopher, on the contrary, there is absolutely nothing impersonal; and above all, his morality furnishes a decided and decisive testimony as to WHO HE IS,-that is to say, in what order the deepest impulses of his nature stand to each other.
Great video! You're passionate about "knowing thyself" which I find to be a rare quality in most "philosophers". The first chapter in Beyond Good and Evil is one of the great masterpieces of psychology, imo.
While I was listening to a girl in my class present her topic of Jihad I started to think about what she was doing. I had the idea that the information that she recounted was the information that her value system inspired her to seek out. This, and how she used examples to convey her ideas, showed me that we are all unconsciously revealing our aim and lives in our words.
I just had this book in my hand two seconds ago. I picked it up a few months ago and it’s been sitting in a box since. As I read the authors name I heard Jordan Peterson’s voice pronouncing it in his funny Canadian accent lol. I put the book down and came to bed and scrolling through UA-cam feed this video popped up on me . Synchronicity! I have to read this I guess
An hour and a half spent on a single 45min UA-cam video...
14 hours on a single UA-cam comment...
@Jovan Jovanović Thats too much but I have a similar experience with TSZ, Stuff hurts my soul and rips my hearth, i'm trying to trespass it in a lighter way, reading the whole thing fast, so you can gain perspective of the chapters in relation to the others and the general meaning of the book as a whole, Nietzsche once said he hated his readers who stumbled and hurt with each stone they encounter.
But he also said that the one who writes with blood knows that blood is spirit, and he who writes with sentences wants not to read but to be learned by memory. And man they sure get imprinted on the sensitive, he's also a poet besides being a master. His critics have called him a spider who catches the gullible, in his net of sentimentalism and romanticism, which I found partially true, there's plenty of suffering on incarnating his philosophy, understanding it... for a while I questioned the validity of wisdom itself, I changed to other literary generes and backed off.
vule it took me 2 years to finish this response
That must be a good solid time. And it's no joke man!
If only people would stop and think before they speak, as much a he does. Makes this (personally) challenging book far more comprehensible for us smaller minded individuals.
Dear Prof. Peterson
Thank you very much for taking the time to upload this and use your knowledge of Nietzsche to spread wisdom across the Globe. Also, hats off to you on the political frontier of Canada. Don't let the Bastards beat you down!
Bests, UK
nietzsche is so deep peterson has to pause just to do short meditations just to search for words with the proper depth... very beautiful.
I bet that when he speaks with journalists he can oversee the conversation on slow motion as the spiderman movie and, based on his observations about their intentions and narcissism, decide on the degree of power and eloquence velocity to instill to his words to disarm them completely
I just asked myself, what would Jordan Peterson think about the book "Beyond good and evil", so I just googled "jordan Peterson Nietzsche" and there it was. Thank you Sir! I will really enjoy watching it.
That "if you don't believe in something you couldn't organise your vision" thing is spot on. It happened to me just a few weeks ago that i realised i couldn't focus on the things in front of me (in terms of sight). And it had begun when i read nietzsche and oscar wilde (and a few others) and saw some fantastic movies. It made me re-examine why i believed in the things i believed in, what my biases were etc.
I've to almost strengthen the muscles around my eyes and gradually reprogram them to look at the things in front of me. It's very tough
Just started Beyond Good and Evil. When Dr.Peterson describes how dense the book is he is not exaggerating. Every sentence makes you think.
Read that book years ago my brain still hurts.
fntime wtf
the fact that i could understood the sentences despite me not being an english native speaker, even before he proceeded to explain them, made me want to read the whole book. thanks for the upload
Every time I listen to Dr. Peterson I feel like I have gained a few IQ points.
17:00-24:30
Good reasoning for the podcast
28:20
There is a difference between a philosophers being and mind , or philosophers mind in a text book
36:20
With the questions you create a tree.
The first time I read Beyond Good and Evil I was 14 years old. I took some of it in, but found Nietzsche to be profoundly arrogant, though at times correct but spoke with too much certainty.
I read again it when I was 18. I threw it in the corner. It was even worse.
Finally I went back to it at age 28. It was then that I appreciated it a bit.
Professor Peterson speaks like his words are his orchestra, his stories his choreography and his explantions are his distillations
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"So I'm going to read something"
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I`ve read most of the comments and suddenly felt an obligation to share a thought. Here he cites one of the humanity sharpest, most philosophically inclined, mind. What has eluded me till now, though this video had me contemplating the idea of beyond good and evil for far too many times, is that it ain`t the greatest one. Such a relief. Tear briefly shed finds its` closure.
Dr. Peterson I love your vids and they really help me get closer to complex concepts and ideas but.... every time you grab a glass or a bottle of water and you DON'T drink from it for ages I just can't help it and lose focus. I don't wanna rely on just listening cause you are very expressive and your body language complements enormously your message, so PLEASE ..take a sip , TAKE A SIP of WATER ! for Nietzsche's, Jung's sake ! :)
Jokes aside , thank you professor ! I've been a Sam Harris listener and disciple for a long time and now yours too. The debates you guys had, first one included, were spectacular !
Glad to know everything's being sorted out now with the U of T. All the best !
Your lectures are indispensable to anyone whom wishes to delve deeper into the history of epistemology and the humanities. I would not touch drugs with a bargepole and so videos like yours are my only way of intoxicating myself. Drinking from the fountain of knowledge and becoming inebriated.
It's fun to know that even someone like Jordan is having a hard time interpreting the density of each sentence.
In other words, I may not be that stupid after all.
Are you as stupid as you sound?
Hahahahahaha
Lol I’m holding on by a thread, keep practicing and attempting to understand lol
Holy crap. It’s amazing how much five years changed Peterson’s appearance.
A book reading of a complex book like this is something that a lot of people could benefit. I would love to see more such videos
31:05 Peterson describes one of Nietzsche’s most infamous lines on the nature of power. Before I even gave Nietzsche a chance, this quote of his was the primary reason I did not allow myself serious inquiry into his work. I’m glad to have that Quote explained better and also to realize that in his greater body of work he is actually cautioning against this tendency. In other words I have been selling Nietzsche short this whole time as I hadn’t thought about it myself, or delved into the literature seriously, taking the footnotes provided from my feminist philosophy teacher as dogma. Thanks for elucidating this and emancipating my mind Professor Peterson.
Thank you for posting this, and all the other videos you have posted in the past. I am learning so much from watching - and trying to live - your videos. Thanks again!
Nietzsche's books are great. He helps me put it all together and see ahead. Sometimes the magnifying glass is on something I had vague ideas about, not knowing how it could or would make sense together and it's in the grey area so to say, and it would bother me, but then Fritz puts it all in a few sentences for you. Boom!
I must have spent 10 minutes just reading, re-reading and comprehending the paragraph so 45 minutes is fair
Read this when I was 18 and it changed my life
Thank you for the delightful insight and breakdown into a portion of Nietzsche's mind!
You are definetly my all time favorite professor .. thank You so much Dr Jordan
This is exactly what I’ve been trying to articulate for so long! Thank you on the very deepest level, a truly life changing affirmation for a young man like me
This exposition of Beyond Good and Evil is one of the best I've seen. The danger of BG&E is the exploration of the Zoroastrian value system which is vastly different from Christianity which is based on the faith in the opposition of values (good versus evil, bravery versus cowardice, truth versus deceit...). Nietzsche lays bare more than anyone the idea that this faith in opposition of values is unfounded and even harmful.
45 minutes in 43, only Jordan Peterson can pull that off
Thank you, what a wonderful teacher you are Mr Peterson. I hope you’re recovery will be swift
Take a drink, damn you.
He's an uptight guy.
What he is talking about and all you can say is take a drink???
The video on Genesis and the Buddha opened my mind to the meaning behind Nietzche's "god is dead". Thanks for your analysis Jordan.
This brilliant, will have to read more of these guys, this so insightful.
I love the way he free associates as he expresses his ideas. He has admitted that he learns to understand what he is thinking by listening to what and how he says what he says....and that is true. Often enough we can learn from what we say if we listen to ourselves. We can also evolve better ways of saying what we think by doing this.
"There is way more at the bottom, than what is fully articulated." - Jordan B. Peterson
Something so deep he has the genius to articulate it that a interested student of such knowledge can understand it. This is an video but still valuable.
Exceptional video. Your analysis is superb. Thank you sir!
This paragraph is so great a playlist was created on Peterson's channel labeled "great paragraphs" and in it is just two instances of this video.
Please, do the Nietzsche series.
It's a really inspiring quote, because in that sense, everyone is a philosopher. Or the philosopher's stone is the most basic archetype there is to self-awareness.
My uncle often said Nietzsche is a Poet of Philosophy .
More videos like these please such a wealth of insights. I learned more about my life in 45 minutes than I did my entire life.
Was getting sleepy making a presentation for class. Then listened to this. Lol.
The part about man being a vessel for spirits that are one eyed monsters fighting to create their own agenda within man and the world reminds me of the Gunas in Hindu philosophy that fight for the top or control of the wheel. Rajas (passion/activity), Sattva(goodness/balance), and the Tamas (destruction/chaos). They dwell and struggle for control within each person but none ever keep control of the wheel of Time or stay on top as the wheel will always spin. It also relates to the principles of Sulfur, Mercury, and Salt in Alchemy....this talk is amazing.
I had ordered beyond good and evil earlier today then stumbled upon this lecture. So glad I did.
I found this video really helpful! As I have attempted to read Beyond Good and Evil and really struggle with understanding precisely what Nietzsche is getting at in particular sentences. Somehow I chose one of the hardest philosophers to start with. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't after the truth.
I would suggest a more chronological approach to philosophy. Nietzsche was a philologist and wrote about the historical ideas of the human species while developing his arguments.
A great lecture. In my interpretation, probably the most important motive for Nietzsche is the affirmation of life as the highest value. The will to power isn't necessary a need to dominate others, it's a vitalistic life force, "the cardinal drive of the organism", the need to express one's power and overcome boundaries, which, for Nietzsche, is more fundamental than the drive for self-preservation, because self-preservation is derived from it. Nietzsche basically tells us to approach all things in life in a manner that enables us to "feel an increasing feeling of life in us". He feels that a lot of people in modern times aren't "getting" that feeling and so they develop pathologies like becoming obsessed with "objective" factual knowledge (aka becoming a "walking encyclopedia"), start believing in an immortal soul and hoping for an afterlife, denouncing life and becoming ascetics etc. He basically tells us to listen to our bodies to know what's best for us, as strange as it may sound.
I understand Its been a while since you wrote this but I have a question; How do we listen to our bodies to figure out whats best for us?(in simple terms if possible)
@@his.name.is.sw-g Listen to your taste. In everything - food and drink, climate and place, method of relaxation. Pay attention to what gives you the most vitality and what robs you of it. Avoid stimuli that rob you of vitality, seek out those that nourish you. Use this to adjust your "spiritual" and "bodily" diet in as "selfish" manner as posible, meaning trusting only your instincts and not any recipe given to you by somebody else. Your taste is actually just a commonly used word for what is in reality your instinct for self-preservation or self-defence - a form of will to power. And the will to power is the will of the body, because it is the will of organic life, according to Nietzsche. Life's imperative, in the form of your taste, should guide you to your own version of flourishing, as Nietzsche seems to believe. All this that I've described is taken directly from the book Ecce Homo, chapter "Why I Am So Clever", sections 2 and 8. You can check it out yourself.
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Thank you very much for your skill and time. I recommend you to write personally to Jordan Peterson's email. You could help him technically a lot to disseminate with more success his message. Thanks again!
I appreciate!
My copy of this book came in the mail today. I'm having to rewind this a bit pretty frequently to stay on task. This book should be a healthy challenge. Can't wait to read it again in 5 years too
Please improve the sound quality! Really great insight!
The room ! Why would you give such an amazing lecture in these conditions. Bring in trees, a better chair, a library and woodwork. He deserves way better !
And for the love of God, get this man some patches for his blazer!
These circumstances are all conscious choices Dr. Peterson has made. He's not wearing a shirt, either, although he is wearing suspenders. All part of the effect.
These ‘value’ systems that organize our lives is precisely what is deconstructed and reconstructed during an epiphany experience
“So with that said, lets start class”
I need to meet Jordan sometime, brilliant man, deserves better than what he gets for his attempts to help others. My hero.
Neitche is such a German his philosophy would be so different if he was Irish... Neitche was very courageous and lived with a lot of pain
It's insanely deep and dense, by far the most complex and difficult book I've ever read
Great video, really interesting perspectives. As a philosophy student I can't help but comment on what I didn't agree with, rather than on the many things that I got out of the video. Discussing what one agrees on isn't that interesting anyway! So here is my 5 cents on the first sentence: "Gradually it has become clear to me what every great philosophy so far has been: namely a personal confession of its author and a kind of involuntary and unconscious memoir" (Taken from the Kaufman translation). I don't take Nietzsche to really be "alluding to the fact that the desire to make an autobiographical recounting is so deeply imbedded in people" (paraphrasing around the 18 minute mark). I take Nietzsche to be saying that philosophical systems say more about the philosopher and the culture in which he (at that time presumably a he) is imbedded in, than about the issues that the philosopher claims to be investigating -such as "truth". In which case "personal confession" and "memoir" aren't to be taken literally, they are about how philosophers subjectivity and personal context shine through their feeble attempts of dressing their investigations in a veil of objectivity.
The fact that professor Peterson interpreted Nietzsche to be saying something profound about humans proclivity to tell our stories is kind of funny, seeing that she herself has developed a self-authoring program. Maybe Petersons (or anybody elses for that matter) interpretation of Nietzsche is "a kind of involuntary and unconscious memoir"!
Peterson's interpretation of Nietzsche, all of Peterson's papers and published work, _are_ an involuntary and unconscious autobiographical memoir. We're learning about him as an individual, about his current environment, and about his evolutionary history going back to the beginning of time. It's inescapable.
Just as such works reveal say the language of the author, they reveal pattern's of thought, specific axiomatic foundations, and an infinite number of other autobiographical facts are hinted at and can be gleaned by careful reading. The meta analysis of any such work can't help but be a richer well of truth than just the surface pronouncements made.
Almost like that time when he talks about how you always need a high goal in life, and then reveals that he scored extremely highly in conscientiousness and spends his weekends fixing up some house in the woods.
Depends on whether you interpret Nietzsche to be a philosopher or a prophet.
+Eric Guier Or you could say his 99th percentile conscientiousness is a consequence of his understanding of the imperative of having a worthwhile goal, not the other way around
Thank you for affording the masses with insightful teaching. I love you.
Nietzsche's great asset as a philosopher is his sense of humour.
The Jordan deconstructing The Nietzsch with great reverence.