Do you really believe this tool plays COD ? just another dreamer huh ? dude, I've been around guns my entire life and I happen to play shooter games and well, it's that easy, only difference is you get one life, but as for aiming and control, it's very much the same buddy, the dude in this sarcastic little doco is a bitch that doesn't have one clue about firearms, but, you, get your little slogan and slap it on a t-shirt, I'm sure you'll look mighty special
roughly 11,000 lives have been lost through non-suicide deaths involving a firearm each year. [...] The CDC report said, "Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was 'used' by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies. ... Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."
@@atomique3656 , those "surveys" you're talking about are all bogus. Why is it that so many gun owners claimed to use a gun in self-defense, but they almost never report the crime to the cops and there aren't nearly as many criminals being sent to the hospital as the fake numbers the surveys point out. If you want real facts, you go with FBI statistics, not home surveys that don't verify the claims of the people in the survey.
140 children choke to death every year we should ban food if you disagree you're a food nut who cares more about how your taste buds feel than the lives of families ruined because their children died because of food
@@valor36az Why would you be saving the shooter? IF the good guy with a gun gets them (see the feckin video), and IF you can get to them to heal 'em, you will also likely notice that their dying bodies are loosely gripping a gun; IE, you maybe probably really shouldn't heal them. Otherwise, there isn't a gun present... and if you know what you're doing, you may have just gotten that innocent individual from "dying in terror on an airport's floor" to "on an ER bed for the forseeable future"
I laughed, but suddenly I realize the seriousness of that seemingly laughable statement. An idiot with a gun wanting to be a good guy could end up shooting an innocent school kid.
Considering the number of people out there who legally own firearms, and the rather small number of them who have actually shot anyone, let alone "an innocent school kid", the odds of that are vanishingly small.
COPS DESERVE TO "BE" THE BEST. THEY NEED HUGE RESOURCES FOR PTSD PREVENTION/COPING, ALONE; *THIS IS NEGLECTED, IN MANY CASES". FACING VIOLENCE CAN CHANGE ANYONE, INSTANTLY, AT ANY MOMENT. DAILY, COPS FACE HORROR POTENTIAL; HORROR. ACCIDENTS TO SURVIVAL MOMENTS, THEY FACE HUGE RISKS, PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND PHYSICALLY. THEY'RE NOT SOLDIERS, BUT THEY MAY FACE COMBAT. HEALTHY COPS ARE COMPLEX.
ODDME100, FACTUALLY, IT HAPPENS TO 20 YEAR VETS. COMBAT GOES WRONG THO YOU DID PERFECTLY; 8'S & ACES. NORM = LEARN THIS POSSIBILITY IN 1ST COMBAT, NATURALLY. **LOW ODDS = PRESENT: TRAINED SHOOTER + COMBAT SKILLS + COMBAT CONFIDENCE? BET, IT WILL ALWAYS BE SKINNY. +,YOU CARRY, YOU SHOOT = YOU MAY BURN.
There are plenty of vets who would and have disagreed with you. It doesn't matter because people successfully defend themselves every day. Besides those were navy members not a surprise
@Zuma Zuma haha but the fact is that's wrong. On a national level according to the CDC it's 500,000 to 37,000. Do the math. Listen to the facts. It's called propaganda
That's really the most likely case... First, the good guy, remembering they have a gun, will prioritize it over any and all other action, not dependent of context, probably getting shot in the process. Next, they will struggle to get it out of the holster in a panic, probably getting shot in the process. Then they will wildly spray bullets everywhere and be as much of a danger to all the other civilians as the shooter, probably getting shot in the process. Finally, they will be holding a smoking gun when the police appear, probably getting shot in the process. I'm not against private ownership of guns or any other small arms (I actually own a ton of weapons myself for martial arts reasons), but I'm a massive advocate of background checks, mandatory training, and the like. I actually think something like this crisis training might be a good thing to make mandatory for all who want to own small handguns for self-defense, just to show them the naivety of the idea that having a gun is enough to stop an attacker.
Pentti Koivuniemi it is enough to stop an attacker especially if the Good Guys trained so if the shooters aiming on the right and the good guy with the gun is on the left you think the shooter's going to have enough time to turn to the good guy with the gun and shoot the good guy before the good guy can pull the trigger not a chance.
@@computercrazies I think you are missing the point... What is the point of being the all-praised "good guy with a gun", if you get your good-guy-with-a-gun ass shot, too? As usual, that type of logic is only acceptable for "WHITE, good guys with guns".
@@computercrazies are you really prepared to protect People around you??? That logic we need a good guy with a gun is so stupid. Do you support that? I know mockery on this video was high class, but they address a serious issue. It's not that simple.
@@computercrazies Does that include mass killings? How many crimes have you prevented? I assume you arent part of law enforcement agencies. How many concealed carry civilians prevent gun weilding crimes?
Anyone who does not fear guns is not a responsible gun owner. Same as driving, plenty of people think they are good drivers, but they are often the exact same people who doesn't use turn signals, cuts off traffic, speed, tailgate, and generally operate a car recklessly. If you think you are a responsible gun owner, then the chances are you are not. Real responsible gun owners always treat their guns like a deadly weapon AT ALL TIMES, never as a toy or a tool or allow themselves to get too comfortable with guns. The irony of course is that the most qualified people to own a gun are not the gun advocates. Anyone can claim to be a responsible gun owner till that one incident where they are not, but it takes dedication to achieve real gun safety.
You're correct, it's to easy for fucktard idiots to obtain firearms. I propose that only veterans that have military training be allowed to carry. I mean look at those three vets on the train in France, armed with only their fists and an I-Phone charging cable subdued an active shooter with an AK-74
I don't fear, Firearms, they are nothing but tools, like a hammer, screwdriver or handsaw. That big old Firearm was fully loaded, Browning High Power, That old bastard never went off by itself, it road in a paddle holster on my hip for years. It only went off once when a man came at me with a knife who was bent on stabbing myself and the woman I was with. By the way I'm a combat veteran a survivor of many LRRP mission. When you fear something I don't care who you are you will be affected by that fear that ain't good.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket YOU AND @James Hoover ...are prime examples of how gun accidents happen. A gun is a WEAPON. Say it with me ..a WEAPON. Treat it as such at all times. A gun is not a hammer, a car or a kitchen knife. It is a weapon.
The driver thing rings very true. I've been in the passenger seat with a few friends who love to race around and complain about people turning in front of them and making silly moves. Dude, you are the one going 55 under a 30 limit (mph). Of course people are turning into the road in front of you because nobody expects your to be travelling almost twice the speed limit down the street. HE was the problem but he could only see the results from their actions. It was infuriating. You see these types of drivers everywhere. People who think the rules don't apply to them not realising if everyone did that, the road would be impossible to read.
FD S Oh, come on! We know that Trump likes to exaggerate. At least he didn't brag about it to compare himself to someone actually at the scene and helpless. ... I have no more profanities left to describe that waste of flesh.
I remember when Obama won and he said he wouldnt have any secret service protect him because guns are bad and then every other liberal politcian and celebrity followed suit. Oh wait, that never happened.
first of all, there isn't a license for owning a gun, only for concealed carry. Second of all, owning a gun is a right and driving is a privilege. Third of all, cars are a lot more dangerous than guns for a variety of reasons.
You are right! I mean for a driver's license, you have to take classes for 6 months, driving with a chaperone, can't drive after certain hours, then practice even more by yourself. This involves tests and more than 50 hours of behind-the-wheel driving practice. Then you may drive.
Ellissabetta car accidents claim many more lives than guns even though there are many more guns than cars in America (which is expected, but my point still stands. Cars are technically more dangerous than guns in your daily life.)
@@Skankhunt-mv4vd "The total gun death rate surpassed the car crash death rate of 11.9 per 100,000 people, as the rate of car crash deaths has steadily decreased while the gun death rate has increased over the years." wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D77/D48F372
“1 out of every 5 active shooter events gets stopped by a potential victim at the scene and most victims are unarmed.” “Some cases we have good guys with guns who are able to stop the shooter...very few cases...3%.”
I think he's just highlighting what we should all take away from this: good guys with guns stop shooters very rarely, so we should reject that argument from pundits that don't know wtf they're talking about
Another interesting factoid would have been the percentage of mass shootings where armed civilians were actually present but couldn't/wouldn't/didn't do squat.
0.0% because all mass shooting have happened in gun free zones. The civilians who carry firearms aren't going to carry where it is against the law. However there is a big difference between against the law, and against a business policy.
"The civilians who carry firearms aren't going to carry where it is against the law." This is such horseshit. As an ex-soldier, I've known a _lot_ of people with guns, and most of them play fast and loose with local and state gun laws. And these are people I generally trust not to misuse a firearm, not drunk or stoned dipshits. Movie theaters, bars, and restaurants often have armed people in them because the only things stopping you from bringing one in is the honor system.
Wait they didn't mention was how that '3%' isn't even normal civilians as well--the vast majority are almost always off-duty cops, veterans, soldiers that are off-base, etc. Not normal civilians.
You ignore the fact that most of the US doesn't carry and that most shootings happen in gun free zones, which by the way, is for a reason. A defenseless population is easier to kill.
No, Obama never expressly stated this. However, one could infer he thinks this from this quote, by Obama: “I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.” - Barack Obama (during conversation with economist and author John Lott Jr. at the University of Chicago Law School in the 1990s)
trevor: Go through your whole life. Ever stated an opinion off the cuff, during a conversation, that you would not stand by or try to enforce on others now? Yea, I thought so.
I hope we're not implying that the solution to a basic human failing is a restriction on human freedoms. Because we don't become better people by abdicating our personal responsibility to not be jacktards.
@@russetwolf13 why not allow guns on planes, why restrict freedom because someone decided to hijack and crash planes in 2 buildings years back, I didn't do it let me carry my gun inside planes
@@drgaurav3499 Guns are allowed on planes, you just have to check them. And we shouldn't restrict freedoms because two planes hit two buildings, had a freak structural failure killing the lot. The amount of suffering, fear and death caused by 9/11 pales in comparison to the suffering, fear, pain and death caused by our overreaction to it. Also the restriction against concealing firearms on planes occurred in 1968, which by the way was literally just before the golden age of plane hijackings. So the restriction actually did nothing to stop the literal golden age of the thing it was written to stop.
@@aarontan2197 The constitution can totally change, theoretically. That's why we're working so hard to stop you from changing out of random, unfounded panic at a nonexistent problem.
Exactly. A hardened human who wakes up one day and says "fuck it, it's time for death" will not be stopped by gun restrictions. But I don't like the idea of a pissed off driver shooting people in traffic because they're going to get fired for being late to work again. If you can't prove that you're stable enough to not use a weapon in anger and skilled enough to not cause even more damage in a crisis, you don't need a fucking rifle.
Well gun owners tend to be more law abiding then the average person... Something like only 0.009% commit crimes so just because you don't trust yourself with a gun doesn't mean that no one should be allowed to own a gun... If you don't like guns don't get one... Gun owners don't want to fight. .. They definitely don't want to have to shoot someone because it's not fun or cool or anything like that, they then have to go to trail and be in jail while they wait unless they got bail money they lose the gun used because it becomes evidence. .. They get vilified for defending them self and its alot of trouble that they don't need... But they rather be judged because they acted in self defense then dead because they were unarmed and unable to defend themselves
@@PrimoStracciatella If only roughly 3% of 'bad guys' are stopped by 'good guys with guns', and we add 97% more guns, then the best we could hope for is a little under 6% of 'bad guys' being stopped by 'good guys with guns'. Sorta. We already have more guns than we have people, so I'm not actually sure adding any extra guns would be helpful in any meaningful way - yet another reason why 'ADD MORE GUNS' is such a confusing potential solution to the gun problem. So no - that's not how math works.
Yeah I have never understood how ‘good guys’ could be able to beat an armed shooter because they have to hesitate for a split second longer to distinguish between shooter and civilian, whereas the shooter doesn’t care.
@@malaikashroff7608 its an unfair take to begin with as most armed robbers like 99.9% of them dont intend to actually shoot anybody but rather just keep them at bay so he can escape, often you should only draw on someone who is preoccupied with persay a cash register or looking in a conpletely different direction, never draw on a drawn gun as he will be faster. This is basic stuff taught in any self defence course
Also ill just cancel your further point before you make it, yes you are required by law to complete a self defence course to apply for a concealed carry permit and thus people who have concealed carry permits and firearms would know this information already.
This is by far one of the best portions of the Daily Show in history. Great great work to the team behind it, and the experts who lent their time and words to this!
+tanderson596 Well it starts with back when our country was first created. We created a document called the U.S Constitution, which for simplified purposes is basically a guideline and blueprint of how our government and laws are supposed to work. A short time later we added some amendment to the U.S Constitution. The Second Amendment included "the right to bear arms" meaning people are allowed to own weapons. The Second Amendment was added (according to my web searching) in 1791 A.D. Now people in the U.S.A have been pointing at "the right to bear arms" in The Second Amendment believing that this means that they should be allowed to own any and all weapons. I however am someone realizes that when the Second Amendment was first written the most advanced weapon we had was the musket rifle. A gun that fired once and took a while to reload. So I personally think that the right to bear arms may need to be updated to reflect the advancement of technology. But I think there are a lot of people who disagree with that idea. And now I am going to share actual conversation had. There are some guns I have mix feelings about. But I have always had strong feelings about assault rifles. Assault rifles are not use for hunting. They are type of weapon that person would be carrying around for self-defense. They are a weapon of war, and nothing else. So I have always felt that civilians should not be allowed to own assault rifles. When I share this opinions with someone there response was to effect (I cannot remember exact words), “Wouldn’t that be scary? If the military is the only ones that have these weapons what would stop the military from taking us over? How could we defend ourselves if the military attacks us?” Something to that effect. Yes, the person I was talking to seemed to have a paranoid fear the entire military may one day go rouge and try to take over the country. And this person seemed to believe the only way to prevent this scenario is for civilians to have access and be able to own the same types of weapons the military uses. I have no idea if this person is alone in their thinking, or if their other people that agrees with them. I just remembered being shocked and surprised by this response. I hope this was able to provide you with some insight on the matter.
netwolfe That guy's response is remarkable, the military is surely on the side of the people! Agree on your dislike of assault rifles, they are the weapons of choice of these Paris terrorists and mass murderers and civilians mustn't be able to get their hands on them.
Teaching your kids to not handle firearms when an adult is not around is a good start. Or responsible gun owners who lock their guns away, unloaded and ammo stored separately is another good start.
@@Hypergangnam You clearly have know nothing about guns if you're going to ask a stupid question like that. I know this because you if you knew anything about guns and gun safety you'd know that there are safes made for handguns that are specifically made for desk drawers for a quick draw. Not hard to do your own research.
@@shanesplace77 Yes and a criminal with a gun, will wait for you to open the drawer, punch in the combination, take the gun out, load it, and then be ready. Did you even watch the video? It was about concealed carry. Then someone pointed out that if one is responsible, you ought to lock the gun away in a safe, with the ammo distanced from it. You simply cannot have it both ways. Either you want more people with guns, ready to stop gun maniacs, or you want responsible gun owners. And responsible gun owners, simply arent gun ready, for any gun maniac out there. Guns are locked away, not easy accessable, and concealed carry is made illegal for private citizen.
+Henrik G. Really not that different. What's to stop you driving out of California buying a gun and then driving right back into to California if you're a bad guy? you need federal laws.
+slarti bartfast I agree, you need federal laws, but I think every federal law would violate the constitution. The second part of that wouldn't approve. And to change the constitution you have to get a supermajority, and congress doesn't get anything on with a simple majority so it won't happen. (sorry for any misspells.)
The ALERRT guy and the Chief guy has pretty much kept their cool with his shenanigans. I'm surprised no one pointed it out in the comment section. I would have hit in the head with that mustard toy gun if I was the Chief guy.
Because they knew that his point was to show how ludicrous it is to think a random good guy with a gun will help and with comedy, he clearly showed how misguided the idea is.
Police deal with literal suicides and unpreventable deaths. I'd think most if not all of them are basically totally emotionally numb. I certainly would be.
I admire how the pros cooperated with this. But having practiced martial arts for decades, I have an idea of how much practice it takes to make sure your body responds the way you want without interference from your panicking brain.
Amen my man. Training is what leads to the "muscle memory" needed in those situations. That is why I think training, real training, should be mandatory.
@@mrjohnnie005 Quite a few gun owners (or wannabe gun owners) are opposed to that. They say it's "yet another obstacle to exercising our Constitutional rights." Because, Murica. I, however, wholeheartedly agree with you. Want to carry outside your home? Fine. Demonstrate proficiency with your weapon, and demonstrate you understand the legality of concealed carrying, when to shoot and when not to shoot. If that's too much for you, leave it locked up in your home.
@Ernesto Mathurin Easy to say that typing a comment on the internet, not as much in the heat of the moment with adrenaline and survival instincts surging through your body.
Melissa Perry Example: a guy walks into a bank and sticks his loaded .45 in the face of a teller and says "fill this bag with money or I will blow your fucking head off". A civilian in the bank, who happens to be carrying his loaded hand gun shoots the bank robber in the back, severing his spinal cord, killing him instantly. That civilian is the definition of a "good guy". Would you disagree with that?
140 children choke to death every year we should ban food if you disagree you're a food nut who cares more about how your taste buds feel than the lives of families ruined because their children died because of food
***** This conversation is completely arbitrary lol. I concede, if he was actually granted a concealed carry permit, he probably did take the tests. However, the training he recieved for active shooter situations aren't actually in the training guidelines in Florida. But let's come to an understand here. Would you grant that it is too easy to get a concealed carry permit? That it should require more training to legally be allowed to carry a firearm in public? Just so you have an idea of how little training concealed carry licensees recieve in Flordia, I'll list the training criteria. The state of Florida only mandates 2.5 total hours of training split between gun safety courses, range time and all classroom testing. Only 2 and a half hours to get a concealed carry license that is valid in 34 states, and it only costs $65 dollars. There are people who may decide that they want to stop a shop lifter by shooting them in the head. There are people who will drink a bit to much and get into a common fist fight, the vast majority of which normally end in very minor cuts and scrapes, and because he or she has a gun he may say that "he feared for his life" and shoot a man in a chest who did not pose an actual threat to his life. There are people who will leave their gun on the table after greasing the barrel, walk away for just a moment to get a glass of water, and not notice their child playing with their accidentally loaded gun until it is too late. I am not anti-gun. I actually like guns myself, I think going to the shooting range is fun and like president Obama, I fully support the 4 billion dollar program he proposed to encourage safe gun ownership. I do however think that it should be harder to get a gun in this country. This is not to say that I don't think that everyone who wants a gun should have to oppritunity to have them. I just want those people who do want a gun to be trained in exactly how to handle a gun, exactly how to store it so that children will never touch it, I want them to know exactly when it is appropriate to use a gun and more importantly, when it is not. There are so many shootings in this country because people get into a common fist fight and end up shooting their adversary because they do not realize that there is no immediate life threatening danger. I want people to know that even the biggest, most accredited gun training organizations in the country say that in an active shooter event hiding and escaping are the FIRST option, and shooting the attacker is the last. The reason is obvious, police will probably mistake you as the shooter, and when confronted by the shooter if you begin firing without proper training you could very well catch civilians in the cross fire. Can we at least agree that 2.5 hours of training should not be enough to conceal a weapon in 34 states? I think you are a reasonable enough person to agree with me there.
Who's watching in 2022 after Uvalde and wondering why we train cops to go in and protect students when they legally don't have to go in and protect. :(
Perfect. I can only imagine how they set these up. "I'm playing a stupid person. I want you to know I'm really not stupid and I'm making a point, but I want you to deal with me in the way you would deal with somebody this stupid."
But 250 years ago they said we should all have guns, even though all they had was shitty muskets that took a minute to reload and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn
realy? US has most scariest inner city neighbourhoods in the world! Poverty in UK is at such low levels, our Unemployment benefit is higher then your minimum wage... poverty my ass.... and hatred really? You just elected the top hater in the world, a Donald fucking Duck, and you say we have more hatred?
Tevo77777 kid, 9/11 2000 people died, not a single gun was used... You cant compare a terrorist attack to a mass shooting by a crazy civilian... Terrorists will always have a way to kill people, and if you had your gun in twin towers, you would have died just like evryone else my friend. in Paris attacks 137 people died... I mean its allot but its like 40% of how many people die in france every year. in US you have 20,000 Gun deaths a year, STFU and read a book or two... and judging by your photo, last person i want to have a gun is you... you one of them creepy gun owners...
***** But, what we did do was enforce airport security so nobody that had any weapons could get onto a plane. The whole point isn't to take guns away, it's to make sure guns are put into the hands of people who are actually qualified.
I never imagined laughing as I did with a guy and a gun in his hand. Klepper is one of the funniest, smartest people around now. What will he do next year when thigs begin to get back to normal?
Every villain believes he's the hero of his story. There's basically 3 kinds of mass murderers: They believe they're the goodguy, they believe they're the victim, or both.
My father and I used to have (a LONG time ago) lifetime memberships in the NRA. (Note the past tense.) I used to teach a hunter safety course for them. What they've become now is revolting. Influencing legislation that results in getting a concealed carry permit after answering T/F questions like "Never point a loaded gun up your own butt", and then firing off a couple of clips at a paper target from a distance you could bullseye without ever having held a gun before... not to mention that in spite of the (relatively huge) target area, your shots still hit outside the red...Jesus!
Kinda interesting how having a gun in that simulated school shooting event lead to him being not only being shot by the shooter but also lead him to shooting an unarmed person and also being shot down by the police. Seems to me that having a gun in a shooter situation just makes you more likely to get shot, by not only making you an immediate threat to the shooter, but also making you a perceived threat to the police. To be honest, instead of a gun how about we give everyone bullet resistant riot shields? It may be another idea inspired by Call of Duty but hey at least you wont get shot or mistaken as the shooter as easily...
+Cyberdemon11120 Just recently in Milwaukee, some asshole coming out of a hostage situation wouldn't put his gun down and got shot because they thought he was the hostage taker instead of a victim.
see that is what ive always wondered about ... when everyone is running around like headless chickens, screaming what makes these people think they can control the situation without hitting people in a crossfire, its not like people who commit mass shootings wear a uniform or tee shirt that says "shooter" and what if you have several "good guys" with guns in the heat of the crisis how do you tell the good guys from the shooters ... all you going to see is some random person running around with a gun
I had an argument with a friend about this very same topic. He wanted everyone who qualifies for a gun to have one to protect the public from the bad guys. I then asked him, “when you’re in a situation where both good and bad guys have guns, how do you know who’s good?” His answer, “you know because they’re the good guys.”
Gun fights end pretty fast, isn't like bad boys 2 where everyone shoots at each other for 5 minutes. The only way a shooting last that long is if the bad guy is running through people with ease. Which are the worst cases of mass shootings, one bad person with a gun vs 100 innocent people without one.
It still doesnt stop stuff like that from happening no matter who has a gun or not. These killers often dont care about their lives what so ever. Also guns for drunk partying people? oh hell no.
The problem is, that some percentage of the people with carrying permits will always end up committing a crime themselves, having a firearm related accident, enticing the perpetrator to shoot by trying to stop the crime or enabling someone without a permit to gaining access to the legal firearm. "Good guys with guns" would actually prevent gun violence, if there was a reasonably well established way to determine the part of the population who: 1) Would never use the gun to commit a crime 2) Would never enable someone without a permit to gain access to their gun 3) Would commit to a vigorous training routine 4) Would agree to endanger themselves for the safety of others Oh wait... that actually sounds a lot like this thing called the law enforcement! Agreed, there will always be corruption, but if vigilante law enforcement actually worked, the romanticization of the wild west should've looked liked the safest era of human history. It's weird that everyone can see the obvious flaws of the system via fiction, but fail to apply the same logic into reality.
US DoJ numbers show that people with concealed carry permits are among the best most law-abiding of any segment of the population. Better than politicians, judges, or police officers, and that civilians who use guns in defense are less than 20% as likely as police to use them wrongly or cause undue harm. In short, you're full of it. Law enforcement has no legal Constitutional requirement to protect citizens even if they can and they just sit and watch. It's been established by courts at every level and all across the country. If you or I might take the chances and go in and try to help, that just shows that we're better than cops with qualified immunity and no duty to protect. Look up Jeanne Assam, Joel Myrick, Stephen Willeford. Look up the recent story hardly carried by any news, about a citizen with a pistol shooting back at and stopping a nut firing a rifle at a birthday party. Charleston WVa “Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett told news outlets Thursday. BTW, the " Wild West" had fewer law enforcement per capita, more guns per capita, less crime per capita than today. I already said you're full of it.
Actually there are about 22 thousands gun laws in America. Funny thing is the most common sense is a criminal doesn't follow laws. So who are all these laws for?
Anybody ever think if you ban all the guns you put millions out of work, business close down, and only one type of gun is made for police and service men. Criminal will still get them because they will buy them illegally or take them forcefully from cops.
Nonsense. To keep everybody safe, everybody in the classroom should carry a gun. Even that emo guy in the back who mumbles about ending it all and getting back at the world.
As an Armed Certified security guard in the state of Oregon who went through hours of highly supervised training, costing my company hundreds of dollars, I'm annoyed at Jordan's ease at getting certed. It should be *at least* as hard for some rando to get a license to use a gun as it was for me
But government, I need my gun locker of semi-automatic assault rifles, that I keep in plain sight of my living room, for hunting wild game in a city where there is none even though I've never been hunting.
Xyleth "semi-automatic" and "assault rifles" don't belong in the same sentence. Please,please,please educate yourself before making ignorant,uninformed statements.
Dabbinwaxallday Dabbinwax321 yes, good luck hunting people in military grade body armor, who have tanks, helicopters, and much better weaponry than you. The second amendment was intended for a time when rifles and horses were the best weapons out there.
As a cop, I was required to train one full day each month. Some were daytime some night (w/ red lights & sirens blaring) & after a 1/4 mi run...to elevate heart-rate!
@@danielschroedinger2090 It isn't if you're pushing into an area with armed opposition. It's plenty for you average panicky wackadoo random gunfight with some idiot cause that's all down to draw speed.
This is good. Once again, Trevor effectively uses humor to make an important and convincing point. "A good guy with a gun....." - it's not that simple. More guns means more people getting shot - possibly event the good guy.
I don't know of anyone who said it'd be simple, everyone merely expresses the desire to try. Of course it actually is super simple, Jordan ran through a training course designed to make it not simple for the purposes of training. Most active shooters who meet resistance literally lock up when they get shot at, a few of them kill themselves the moment they meet resistance. Remember, this whole training business cuts both ways, the shooter is usually just as bad at this as you are, the only reason they kill so many people is no one ever fights back.
So you want to get good guys with guns with lots of training and expertise in the right place to help against bad people? That’s called law enforcement!
People should only have guns if they are able to complete a hostage situation like they simulated in the right way. If they fail it, go back to training until you pass the test. Yes, 90% would fail and many wouldn't bother to get a gun anymore. But I prefer a tool that can kill a person with bending your finger only to be in the hands of a person that has proven that he/she knows how to handle this equipment the right way and is clear headed enough, too. We only let people drive tons of steel on the street called cars after they have proven to be able to drive and follow the rules, so why not the same with much more dangerous hardware?
No just no. I understand your hypothetical plan has the best of intentions and I respect that, but saving hostages or stopping crimes in progress is not why people have a concealed carry weapon on them in the first place. Hostage rescuing is a job that's best left to the professionals, and 99.9% of the people who carry a gun know that. Anyone who's permitted to have a concealed carry firearm isn't going to use it to seek out and stop criminals, nor should they be expected to. They carry it to protect their own life or the ones they love and they only draw it if they believe they absolutely have to. Some people do make mistakes and it can be a deeply, unfortunate tragedy if they do. That is, however, why I believe more training should be required and that thorough background checks are always needed. That being said, that doesn't mean you should expect every "good person" with a gun to try and be a "hero" because that's not why people choose to carry. Most realistic situations where you might find yourself at gun point were easily avoidable if you were being cautious in the first place. It's always going to be your job (and your job alone) to avoid these situations if you possibly could have. However, you shouldn't just expect someone you don't even know to put themselves in a life threatening position just because you're already in one. Granted, they most likely will help you out if they're present, but understand that they have families who care about them too. So why should this man or woman be obligated to help you out if they might get killed too? If you're asking them to save you just because you've found yourself as a hostage, then that's an extremely dangerous position you're asking them to put themselves in. It's also another ridiculously far fetched situation that the news likes to portray. Even the cops themselves would just call for backup rather than trying to engage it on their own.
Lmao you seriously think people NEED to go through classes and courses to drive a car? They can buy one off a private seller and not show any kind of documentation and go drive a car. By your logic, 99.99% of all law enforcement wouldn't be allowed to carry guns either. Hell 99.99% of the military as well. Not being able to not complete a hostage situation doesn't mean you're not capable of having a firearm. The two don't even connect. It's like saying only people that can drive through an insane, almost unbeatable obstacle course should be allowed to drive. Even after having all those regulations with vehicles, more people die from them than they do guns. And guns are a right. Driving a car isn't.
Or maybe because all that bullshit people think they have to go through doesn't make them any safer or make them safer drivers? There's people who shoot more often and for longer than they drive and nothing ever happens. It's only when people are scared of guns and don't treat them with respect, or when parents listen to the bullshit media and alienate their kids from guns that accidents start to happen. Maybe instead of adding more bullshit regulations or calling for bans (like Obama and Hillary want with semi automatic weapons. And they HAVE called for them) we should fund classes that teach gun safety? Guns are never going to go away. Not even "assault weapons". It's time retards understood this.
@@dr.OgataSerizawa The fact alone that you recognize that those are gunshots coming from the school and not some random loud noises is wrong in itself. Nobody would think that in Germany, they would think its some children playing with some firecrackers at worst. Although that might be the case just because they havent had a school shooting in the last 10 years.
@@RanplexLP exactly this. Americans don't grasp how all encompassing this is. How it's weeded it's way into the background and become everyday and normal when it's anything but. I was born in Northern Ireland and now live in Germany. A funny thing has happened to me more than once that makes me realise the impact growing up during the end of the Troubles did. Now and then bombs are found here in Germany. What that means to a German is that an old undetonated war bomb has been uncovered under the ground and the immediate area needs to be cleared as a precaution while it is carefully and professionally dealt with. When I hear a bomb has been found my immediate thought is some sort of terrorist plot, with a bomb left in a car or on the train and it's meant to hurt people. Shows me how my way of thinking has been warped by where I lived. I can imagine Americans are similarly warped, though most won't ever realise it unless they live in a foreign country where shootings are not really a thing. They will go through live thinking that's how things are whereas in most of the developed western world it's not.
Try it again. And again. And again. White people say they get shot just as much as black people do, so by that logic we need more people with guns. Makes sense to me.
If a good guy has a gun, and knows how to use it safely and effectively then they can stop a bad guy with a gun. But if the good guy doesn’t know what he’s doing then he juts adds to the problem. You can’t just buy a gun and instantly become a hero. Most people who actually carry a defensive firearm on a regular basis know this.
This content of this video is an outstanding example demonstrating why "Good guy with a gun" is NOT the answer. ...too bad no one (that matters) will take it seriously because it was presented as a comedy sketch.
What Jordan Klepper is saying is so true. I have a concealed carry license from Texas.I dont know a thing about guns, how to loads them, types of guns etc etc. I never had a gun, and never will. Basically it was a "party" (kind of) that I was invited to, only it was in a gun range, and we did not drink. They taught us how to load and shoot, they divided us into groups, and I was in the novice group. But that was probably 15 minutes. I dont remember how to load or shoot. They are supposed to lecture for a certain number of hours, they tried to make it as amusing as they could, and in the end they gave us the answers to the questions on the "test" asked by the State. So I can now buy (I wont, but can) a gun, conceal and carry it. I guess, down here, my 2A right trumps your right to live. I mean, Texas would probably argue that had the framers of the constitution thought the right to life is important, they would have put it in the first amendment, rather than in the preamble; and SCOTUS would agree.
Guns aren't necessarily bad, but myths about guns are dangerous. A gun is not a good form of self defense. Having a gun in an active shooter event is unlikely to be of much use. The safest way to meet any threat is with overwhelming force, not self aggrandizing "heroics".
the more popular this idea is, the more disastrous the result. imagine ambiguous situation with 5 people guns drawn, ready to shoot any threat. this will cause more death than the shooter himself.
@t1tacal In point blank range yes! But in public place not everyone is in point blank range and a Good tackle from the shooters hindsight can make him fumble his gun and make him stay on the ground! The FBI report mentioned in the clip has already proven that people has been more successful in stopping shootings through such sudden tackles than having a gun at that moment! A gun takes a hell lotta time to use than a quick tackle bruv believe me!
@@throwawaytrash33 Let me be clear, if you believe that having a gun in an active shooter event results in positive consequences, the onus is on you to prove that. If I believe there is no evidence that having a gun in an active shooter event is significantly useful I don't need evidence. that said if I contend that having a gun in an active shooter event leads to more collateral damage the onus is on me to prove that. we can discuss prior probabilities, but those are best guesses until data is collected. The fact that we don't collect data is the problem, and that's not being prevented by the gun control side. In truth, everything is a guess until Data is collected. What Data we do have from other countries indicates that state-level (that's country level to Americans) gun control leads to fewer gun deaths on longer time spans.
Having a gun should be a privilege like driving. If you drive drunk or speed you get your license suspended or taken away, for obvious reasons. We need to first enforce the laws we have, do the background checks, make a functioning, searchable database, and make it easier for the FBI to weed out the bad guys. There are too many loopholes. It's not only mass shootings but daily gun violence that needs to be dealt with.
The irony is that there are lots of shootings by intruders who broke in unarmed, then simply took the gun away from the tenant and shot him with his/her own gun. There is safety and there is the illusion of safety.
This is actually very accurate representation of what you should do with your concealed permit. You don’t just buy a tool and become a master. Training is worth more than the tool. Software over hardware, you are responsible.
The one thing I have never liked of the gun carrier logic is that they automatically assume they are the "good" guys. All of their rationalizations center around this notion that they are just inherently "good". "Good" is not a permanent status that is just bestowed upon you because you think you are. It is a direct reflection of you your thoughts and and actions in any given situation. And what is "good" for you does not mean it is good for everyone else.
It's amazing to me that they don't realise. Almost every time there's some gun-related tragedy, mass shooting, school shooting etc. you hear the _same_ thing afterwards: _"I never expected that from him."_ / _"He was such a nice, quiet guy."_ / _"He was my neighbour and never caused any trouble, stayed inside a lot."_ In most of these cases the offender was a good guy with a gun.. *until they weren't!* Perhaps random Joe Schmoe is a great guy, never done anything wrong, and is a great good guy with a CCW permit and gun. Until he comes home early one afternoon after a stressful day and finds his wife in bed with another man and in a fit of rage kills them both. Sure glad you armed that good guy with a gun!
"Why was that so hard? It was nothing like Call of Duty." They should make a slogan out of that.
In life there’s no replay button.
Do you really believe this tool plays COD ? just another dreamer huh ? dude, I've been around guns my entire life and I happen to play shooter games and well, it's that easy, only difference is you get one life, but as for aiming and control, it's very much the same buddy, the dude in this sarcastic little doco is a bitch that doesn't have one clue about firearms, but, you, get your little slogan and slap it on a t-shirt, I'm sure you'll look mighty special
roughly 11,000 lives have been lost through non-suicide deaths involving a firearm each year. [...] The CDC report said, "Studies that directly assessed the effect of actual defensive uses of guns (i.e., incidents in which a gun was 'used' by the crime victim in the sense of attacking or threatening an offender) have found consistently lower injury rates among gun-using crime victims compared with victims who used other self-protective strategies. ... Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."
sincerly
@@rustyneedles3743 Combat Vet... You're useless.
@@atomique3656 , those "surveys" you're talking about are all bogus. Why is it that so many gun owners claimed to use a gun in self-defense, but they almost never report the crime to the cops and there aren't nearly as many criminals being sent to the hospital as the fake numbers the surveys point out. If you want real facts, you go with FBI statistics, not home surveys that don't verify the claims of the people in the survey.
The ALERRT guy's quiet calm gives me the impression that he's one of those hardcore badasses who been in the shit many a time
Yeah. Life's harsh truths sucked his soul away. Poor guy.
+WeeWeeJumbo He actually hasn't, though. He's an academic and a professor of criminal justice with expertise in interrogation
hoan mcphee Maybe he just meditates a lot
+WeeWeeJumbo Many SOF has meditation program.
+WeeWeeJumbo He's a gun monk without the whole "no feelings" thing. Too bad ppl dont/wont listen to qualified personnel.
6:46 "I'm one of the co-authors of the report" that has to be one of the most unintentionally hilarious moments, ever.
@TomG Gabin I'm pretty sure he got the info from the interviewees first and then quasi-scripted this just before camera rolling
@@fergalhughes165 Right, that's how the Daily Show works with these. They give you the facts, but they do it in a funny way.
140 children choke to death every year
we should ban food
if you disagree you're a food nut who cares more about how your taste buds feel than the lives of families ruined because their children died because of food
I don't think it was unintentional.
@@desired5928 The difference is we don't need guns.
Why are good guys with guns so important, but universal basic life support and CPR training aren't?
Sbeve Yeeve because no one wants to save the life of a bad guy with a gun
@@valor36az what? If we taught everyone basic life support we'd save tons of innocent lives
@@valor36az Why would you be saving the shooter? IF the good guy with a gun gets them (see the feckin video), and IF you can get to them to heal 'em, you will also likely notice that their dying bodies are loosely gripping a gun; IE, you maybe probably really shouldn't heal them. Otherwise, there isn't a gun present... and if you know what you're doing, you may have just gotten that innocent individual from "dying in terror on an airport's floor" to "on an ER bed for the forseeable future"
CPR training for me is in a few months
@@GeneralLiuofBoston1911 That's awesome.
"Also... I might've shot an unarmed teen twice in the chest" XD
I laughed, but suddenly I realize the seriousness of that seemingly laughable statement.
An idiot with a gun wanting to be a good guy could end up shooting an innocent school kid.
Considering the number of people out there who legally own firearms, and the rather small number of them who have actually shot anyone, let alone "an innocent school kid", the odds of that are vanishingly small.
COPS DESERVE TO "BE" THE BEST. THEY NEED HUGE RESOURCES FOR PTSD PREVENTION/COPING, ALONE; *THIS IS NEGLECTED, IN MANY CASES". FACING VIOLENCE CAN CHANGE ANYONE, INSTANTLY, AT ANY MOMENT. DAILY, COPS FACE HORROR POTENTIAL; HORROR. ACCIDENTS TO SURVIVAL MOMENTS, THEY FACE HUGE RISKS, PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND PHYSICALLY. THEY'RE NOT SOLDIERS, BUT THEY MAY FACE COMBAT. HEALTHY COPS ARE COMPLEX.
In an actual school shooting, I'm pretty sure a "good guy with a gun" could freak out when a panicking kid comes running in around the corner.
ODDME100, FACTUALLY, IT HAPPENS TO 20 YEAR VETS. COMBAT GOES WRONG THO YOU DID PERFECTLY; 8'S & ACES. NORM = LEARN THIS POSSIBILITY IN 1ST COMBAT, NATURALLY. **LOW ODDS = PRESENT: TRAINED SHOOTER + COMBAT SKILLS + COMBAT CONFIDENCE? BET, IT WILL ALWAYS BE SKINNY. +,YOU CARRY, YOU SHOOT = YOU MAY BURN.
"97% more people had guns, a 100% percent of the time, there'd be 0% crime."
Lol
+Bush Vo - Reminds me of a scene in Anchorman.
+C141421356 "60 percent of the time, it works every time."
Lol, yup, that's it.
Hugo Johnsson - Lol, yup, that's it.
+3MonkeesInDenial Palestinians don't have the right to keep and bear arms.
Gun Control is really working swimmingly there, amirite?
Really glad they gave the professionals and experts here a chance to speak and share non-politicized info that’s not designed to sell guns.
They gave them a chance to speak, however much of it was edited
Elisjsha Dicken
That's all it has become in today's america, nothing more than a sales pitch.
I’m a vet. I saw well-trained shipmates freeze during a moment of crisis. Ridiculous to think anyone can handle such responsibility.
There are plenty of vets who would and have disagreed with you. It doesn't matter because people successfully defend themselves every day. Besides those were navy members not a surprise
@Zuma Zuma haha but the fact is that's wrong. On a national level according to the CDC it's 500,000 to 37,000. Do the math. Listen to the facts. It's called propaganda
You're a troll. We have 2 million plus successful defensive uses of firearms each and every year. You ain't shit. Just a lying troll.
What does being an animal doctor have to do with gun responsibility? Is that how you guys put dogs down?
@@roddybaba not funny didn't laugh
“Also, I shot an unarmed teen twice in the chest.”
Whoopsie
What if you have a good guy with a gun...with BAD aim?
That's really the most likely case... First, the good guy, remembering they have a gun, will prioritize it over any and all other action, not dependent of context, probably getting shot in the process. Next, they will struggle to get it out of the holster in a panic, probably getting shot in the process. Then they will wildly spray bullets everywhere and be as much of a danger to all the other civilians as the shooter, probably getting shot in the process. Finally, they will be holding a smoking gun when the police appear, probably getting shot in the process.
I'm not against private ownership of guns or any other small arms (I actually own a ton of weapons myself for martial arts reasons), but I'm a massive advocate of background checks, mandatory training, and the like. I actually think something like this crisis training might be a good thing to make mandatory for all who want to own small handguns for self-defense, just to show them the naivety of the idea that having a gun is enough to stop an attacker.
The get good XD
Pentti Koivuniemi it is enough to stop an attacker especially if the Good Guys trained so if the shooters aiming on the right and the good guy with the gun is on the left you think the shooter's going to have enough time to turn to the good guy with the gun and shoot the good guy before the good guy can pull the trigger not a chance.
Human Qrystal I guess so
its so rare cause "cause a good guy with a gun" stoping a crime is rare
And if you're a black good guy with a gun your chances of getting killed by law enforcement grows exponentially.
Pamela Cass this comment gives me chills because this exact scenario just happened in Chicago with a black good guy security guard :(
@@lidyaFACE yep almost like a prophecy
Oof Alabama
Not if you're reasonable and tell the officer you have a firearm
Generation Z , the people there did. The cop didn’t listen and shot him anyway.
I remember a few days ago a black security was shot dead by police simply because he tried to stop a shooter...
Great logic
@@computercrazies I think you are missing the point...
What is the point of being the all-praised "good guy with a gun", if you get your good-guy-with-a-gun ass shot, too?
As usual, that type of logic is only acceptable for "WHITE, good guys with guns".
White people said it works. Why would they lie?
@@computercrazies are you really prepared to protect People around you??? That logic we need a good guy with a gun is so stupid. Do you support that? I know mockery on this video was high class, but they address a serious issue. It's not that simple.
@@computercrazies how many hours of training similar to the one in the video have you done?
@@computercrazies Does that include mass killings? How many crimes have you prevented? I assume you arent part of law enforcement agencies. How many concealed carry civilians prevent gun weilding crimes?
Anyone who does not fear guns is not a responsible gun owner. Same as driving, plenty of people think they are good drivers, but they are often the exact same people who doesn't use turn signals, cuts off traffic, speed, tailgate, and generally operate a car recklessly.
If you think you are a responsible gun owner, then the chances are you are not. Real responsible gun owners always treat their guns like a deadly weapon AT ALL TIMES, never as a toy or a tool or allow themselves to get too comfortable with guns. The irony of course is that the most qualified people to own a gun are not the gun advocates. Anyone can claim to be a responsible gun owner till that one incident where they are not, but it takes dedication to achieve real gun safety.
Well said its so easy to get a gun and be 'qualified'
You're correct, it's to easy for fucktard idiots to obtain firearms. I propose that only veterans that have military training be allowed to carry. I mean look at those three vets on the train in France, armed with only their fists and an I-Phone charging cable subdued an active shooter with an AK-74
I don't fear, Firearms, they are nothing but tools, like a hammer, screwdriver or handsaw. That big old Firearm was fully loaded, Browning High Power, That old bastard never went off by itself, it road in a paddle holster on my hip for years. It only went off once when a man came at me with a knife who was bent on stabbing myself and the woman I was with. By the way I'm a combat veteran a survivor of many LRRP mission. When you fear something I don't care who you are you will be affected by that fear that ain't good.
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket YOU AND @James Hoover ...are prime examples of how gun accidents happen. A gun is a WEAPON. Say it with me ..a WEAPON. Treat it as such at all times.
A gun is not a hammer, a car or a kitchen knife. It is a weapon.
The driver thing rings very true. I've been in the passenger seat with a few friends who love to race around and complain about people turning in front of them and making silly moves.
Dude, you are the one going 55 under a 30 limit (mph). Of course people are turning into the road in front of you because nobody expects your to be travelling almost twice the speed limit down the street. HE was the problem but he could only see the results from their actions. It was infuriating. You see these types of drivers everywhere. People who think the rules don't apply to them not realising if everyone did that, the road would be impossible to read.
Well, this is clearly outdated now.
Now we know we can just send in Donald Trump, unarmed. He can handle it. He said so himself.
FD S Oh, come on! We know that Trump likes to exaggerate. At least he didn't brag about it to compare himself to someone actually at the scene and helpless.
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I have no more profanities left to describe that waste of flesh.
I remember when Obama won and he said he wouldnt have any secret service protect him because guns are bad and then every other liberal politcian and celebrity followed suit. Oh wait, that never happened.
@@bennycostello2472 Thanks for your example for the Topic "Whatbaoutism". Now do you got anything to say that maters for this discussion?
Starving Wolf We are talking about civilians with guns. Not the secret service. Those are two different things.
FD S of course Donald trump can handle it, all mass shooters are trump supporters
LOL... it's harder to get a driver's licence than to get a gun licence. That is utterly stupid.
first of all, there isn't a license for owning a gun, only for concealed carry. Second of all, owning a gun is a right and driving is a privilege. Third of all, cars are a lot more dangerous than guns for a variety of reasons.
You are right! I mean for a driver's license, you have to take classes for 6 months, driving with a chaperone, can't drive after certain hours, then practice even more by yourself. This involves tests and more than 50 hours of behind-the-wheel driving practice. Then you may drive.
@@Skankhunt-mv4vd cars are not more dangerous than guns.
Ellissabetta car accidents claim many more lives than guns even though there are many more guns than cars in America (which is expected, but my point still stands. Cars are technically more dangerous than guns in your daily life.)
@@Skankhunt-mv4vd "The total gun death rate surpassed the car crash death rate of 11.9 per 100,000 people, as the rate of car crash deaths has steadily decreased while the gun death rate has increased over the years." wonder.cdc.gov/controller/saved/D77/D48F372
“1 out of every 5 active shooter events gets stopped by a potential victim at the scene and most victims are unarmed.”
“Some cases we have good guys with guns who are able to stop the shooter...very few cases...3%.”
Is this ironic? It is right? You're not implying the guy makes no sense and that those two, obviously different statements are contradictory right?
@@sparklepawz1185 Hard to tell what the point is.
I think he's just highlighting what we should all take away from this: good guys with guns stop shooters very rarely, so we should reject that argument from pundits that don't know wtf they're talking about
Because mass shooting happened in gun free zone.
As the video says, most victims are unarmed, moral of the story, dont be a victim
Another interesting factoid would have been the percentage of mass shootings where armed civilians were actually present but couldn't/wouldn't/didn't do squat.
0.0% because all mass shooting have happened in gun free zones. The civilians who carry firearms aren't going to carry where it is against the law. However there is a big difference between against the law, and against a business policy.
Jason Lee
Sooo... if gun free zones are inherently unsafe and vulnerable, then why is the RNC in Cleveland one?
RNC is being held in the Quicken Loans Arena which policy states no weapons. Its not up to the RNC to allow or dis-allow firearms at their event.
They could have easily chosen a different venue , no?
"The civilians who carry firearms aren't going to carry where it is against the law."
This is such horseshit.
As an ex-soldier, I've known a _lot_ of people with guns, and most of them play fast and loose with local and state gun laws. And these are people I generally trust not to misuse a firearm, not drunk or stoned dipshits.
Movie theaters, bars, and restaurants often have armed people in them because the only things stopping you from bringing one in is the honor system.
3% ????? only 3%??????? And trump use that as sales point?
Julian tho not one man, a big, powerful organization: the NRA.
in trump terms that's like 3000%
Yap, and trump & republican bought that.. Even suggested his supporter to use it on hillary.. What a great president he is.. Congrate and RIP america
Wait they didn't mention was how that '3%' isn't even normal civilians as well--the vast majority are almost always off-duty cops, veterans, soldiers that are off-base, etc. Not normal civilians.
You ignore the fact that most of the US doesn't carry and that most shootings happen in gun free zones, which by the way, is for a reason. A defenseless population is easier to kill.
Think of everyone you know. Now, ask yourself this : Do you really trust them with a gun?
On a similar note my friend who says "Obama is going take away our guns!" all the time doesn't even own a single firearm and probably shouldn't...
No, Obama never expressly stated this. However, one could infer he thinks this from this quote, by Obama:
“I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.”
- Barack Obama (during conversation with economist and author John Lott Jr. at the University of Chicago Law School in the 1990s)
The Phantom Fiddler if you dont, you're probably some gangsta wanna be.
trevor: Go through your whole life. Ever stated an opinion off the cuff, during a conversation, that you would not stand by or try to enforce on others now? Yea, I thought so.
i dont trust myself with a gun lmao
Statistically every bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun right up until he committed a crime.
I hope we're not implying that the solution to a basic human failing is a restriction on human freedoms. Because we don't become better people by abdicating our personal responsibility to not be jacktards.
@@russetwolf13 why not allow guns on planes, why restrict freedom because someone decided to hijack and crash planes in 2 buildings years back, I didn't do it let me carry my gun inside planes
@@drgaurav3499 Guns are allowed on planes, you just have to check them. And we shouldn't restrict freedoms because two planes hit two buildings, had a freak structural failure killing the lot.
The amount of suffering, fear and death caused by 9/11 pales in comparison to the suffering, fear, pain and death caused by our overreaction to it.
Also the restriction against concealing firearms on planes occurred in 1968, which by the way was literally just before the golden age of plane hijackings.
So the restriction actually did nothing to stop the literal golden age of the thing it was written to stop.
@@russetwolf13 just dont have guns. Problem solved. Oh wait the constitution cannot change. Oh wait it can
@@aarontan2197 The constitution can totally change, theoretically. That's why we're working so hard to stop you from changing out of random, unfounded panic at a nonexistent problem.
How quickly can a "good guy/girl" turn bad? See road rage.
In the heat of the moment, can the average person control themself to use or NOT use a gun?
Exactly. A hardened human who wakes up one day and says "fuck it, it's time for death" will not be stopped by gun restrictions. But I don't like the idea of a pissed off driver shooting people in traffic because they're going to get fired for being late to work again. If you can't prove that you're stable enough to not use a weapon in anger and skilled enough to not cause even more damage in a crisis, you don't need a fucking rifle.
Exactly how is that proven?
who knows lol
Well gun owners tend to be more law abiding then the average person... Something like only 0.009% commit crimes so just because you don't trust yourself with a gun doesn't mean that no one should be allowed to own a gun... If you don't like guns don't get one... Gun owners don't want to fight. .. They definitely don't want to have to shoot someone because it's not fun or cool or anything like that, they then have to go to trail and be in jail while they wait unless they got bail money they lose the gun used because it becomes evidence. .. They get vilified for defending them self and its alot of trouble that they don't need... But they rather be judged because they acted in self defense then dead because they were unarmed and unable to defend themselves
Alex Lewis well said
this guy's just like a cartoon character I like him
that's because you're a weak minded ignorant person who is afraid of reality. seek help!
John Doe what. Is this satire. The guy's playing a character for the show, people enjoy that show, you call them weak? Get help.
Turpentine
i think it was just a stupid joke lmao no need to be so aggressive
He's sort of the male version of Samantha Bee but not in the hyper emotional zone.....yet.
He really is😂😂😂
"I'm not sure that's how math works."
Golden
Actually that is how math works. Society is a different topic.
@@PrimoStracciatella If only roughly 3% of 'bad guys' are stopped by 'good guys with guns', and we add 97% more guns, then the best we could hope for is a little under 6% of 'bad guys' being stopped by 'good guys with guns'. Sorta.
We already have more guns than we have people, so I'm not actually sure adding any extra guns would be helpful in any meaningful way - yet another reason why 'ADD MORE GUNS' is such a confusing potential solution to the gun problem.
So no - that's not how math works.
Yeah I have never understood how ‘good guys’ could be able to beat an armed shooter because they have to hesitate for a split second longer to distinguish between shooter and civilian, whereas the shooter doesn’t care.
Usually you distinguish before you draw or as you draw
You obviously won't be holding that gun 24/7
Domzy DX I think that just further backs up his point
@@malaikashroff7608 its an unfair take to begin with as most armed robbers like 99.9% of them dont intend to actually shoot anybody but rather just keep them at bay so he can escape, often you should only draw on someone who is preoccupied with persay a cash register or looking in a conpletely different direction, never draw on a drawn gun as he will be faster. This is basic stuff taught in any self defence course
Also ill just cancel your further point before you make it, yes you are required by law to complete a self defence course to apply for a concealed carry permit and thus people who have concealed carry permits and firearms would know this information already.
This is by far one of the best portions of the Daily Show in history. Great great work to the team behind it, and the experts who lent their time and words to this!
50% of the time it works every time.
3%*
You can always shoot the bad guy some of the time.
@@hypothalapotamus5293 That's better than none of the time
It's really depressing to watch this piece year after year and have it stay just as relevant
Yup, just watched it. Was surprised to see 2015. Well... maybe surprised isn't the right word anymore sadly. But could've easily been made last week.
And here we are again, another year later. 😒
It is irrelevant because it's been debunked
@@yip0p but it hasnt. See what i did there?
@@ChrisPBacon9 yes. Absolutely nothing
“You believe that liberal claptrap?” “I’m the co-author of the report”😂
As a Brit, it seems awfully confusing as to why the Americans can't sort out this issue of basic common sense.
+tanderson596 Well it starts with back when our country was first created. We created a document called the U.S Constitution, which for simplified purposes is basically a guideline and blueprint of how our government and laws are supposed to work. A short time later we added some amendment to the U.S Constitution. The Second Amendment included "the right to bear arms" meaning people are allowed to own weapons. The Second Amendment was added (according to my web searching) in 1791 A.D.
Now people in the U.S.A have been pointing at "the right to bear arms" in The Second Amendment believing that this means that they should be allowed to own any and all weapons. I however am someone realizes that when the Second Amendment was first written the most advanced weapon we had was the musket rifle. A gun that fired once and took a while to reload. So I personally think that the right to bear arms may need to be updated to reflect the advancement of technology. But I think there are a lot of people who disagree with that idea.
And now I am going to share actual conversation had. There are some guns I have mix feelings about. But I have always had strong feelings about assault rifles. Assault rifles are not use for hunting. They are type of weapon that person would be carrying around for self-defense. They are a weapon of war, and nothing else. So I have always felt that civilians should not be allowed to own assault rifles. When I share this opinions with someone there response was to effect (I cannot remember exact words), “Wouldn’t that be scary? If the military is the only ones that have these weapons what would stop the military from taking us over? How could we defend ourselves if the military attacks us?” Something to that effect.
Yes, the person I was talking to seemed to have a paranoid fear the entire military may one day go rouge and try to take over the country. And this person seemed to believe the only way to prevent this scenario is for civilians to have access and be able to own the same types of weapons the military uses. I have no idea if this person is alone in their thinking, or if their other people that agrees with them. I just remembered being shocked and surprised by this response.
I hope this was able to provide you with some insight on the matter.
netwolfe That guy's response is remarkable, the military is surely on the side of the people! Agree on your dislike of assault rifles, they are the weapons of choice of these Paris terrorists and mass murderers and civilians mustn't be able to get their hands on them.
***** And did you know 96% of statistics are made up?
+tanderson596 they're just a bunch of no good jumped up colonials that's why
Simply very emotional people. Just the opposit of you Brits.
Uhuh, and what's the only way to stop a bad toddler with a gun? _A good toddler with a gun!_
That's science folks.
Teaching your kids to not handle firearms when an adult is not around is a good start. Or responsible gun owners who lock their guns away, unloaded and ammo stored separately is another good start.
Exactly! Can't start training good kids early enough! ua-cam.com/video/QkXeMoBPSDk/v-deo.html
@@shanesplace77 How are you going to stop "bad guys" with the gun locked away?
@@Hypergangnam You clearly have know nothing about guns if you're going to ask a stupid question like that. I know this because you if you knew anything about guns and gun safety you'd know that there are safes made for handguns that are specifically made for desk drawers for a quick draw. Not hard to do your own research.
@@shanesplace77 Yes and a criminal with a gun, will wait for you to open the drawer, punch in the combination, take the gun out, load it, and then be ready.
Did you even watch the video? It was about concealed carry. Then someone pointed out that if one is responsible, you ought to lock the gun away in a safe, with the ammo distanced from it. You simply cannot have it both ways. Either you want more people with guns, ready to stop gun maniacs, or you want responsible gun owners. And responsible gun owners, simply arent gun ready, for any gun maniac out there. Guns are locked away, not easy accessable, and concealed carry is made illegal for private citizen.
3 years ago and this could be played today like it was new
Same 3 years in the future
I hate to say it but I learned more about the issue from this comedy skit than any 10 minutes of serious coverage so far...
The biggest problem that the “good guy with a gun” will face will be when the real cops come and mistake him for the bad guy!
Joe T it's a better option than being defenseless
@@sgtvirus6696 i kinda doubt that, since the result is the same, bad guy bullets do the same as cop bullets, they both kill.
@@sgtvirus6696 you must not be black? 🤔
@dollar c.g D If the people happen to revolt against the government, what makes you think the government will fight you with a gun?
Big Fat Whale well that comment hits different rn
I never noticed how much the state of Florida looks like a gun
And looks so much like in a holster, too.
Florida. The dick gun holster state of America
Or a flaccid penis......aka: a limp dick, for you non-medical types.
US guns laws are more loose than my stool...
+Sam Jay Tell that to California, they're so tight there it's like you screwed a screw in a wooden stool so much it started to break the wood
+CyborgCMorg I think he is talking ferderal gun laws, not state gun laws. many people in Europe don't know that there is a difference.
^that
+Henrik G. Really not that different. What's to stop you driving out of California buying a gun and then driving right back into to California if you're a bad guy? you need federal laws.
+slarti bartfast I agree, you need federal laws, but I think every federal law would violate the constitution. The second part of that wouldn't approve. And to change the constitution you have to get a supermajority, and congress doesn't get anything on with a simple majority so it won't happen. (sorry for any misspells.)
If you're afraid to leave the house unless you're armed, you don't need a gun, you need a psychiatrist.”
― Oliver Markus Malloy
LOL 8 hours? To get a 1 star Kayaking cert we need more than that
The ALERRT guy and the Chief guy has pretty much kept their cool with his shenanigans. I'm surprised no one pointed it out in the comment section. I would have hit in the head with that mustard toy gun if I was the Chief guy.
They prolly knew it was for comic relief
The one guy sitting down was shaking he was trying so hard not to laugh out loud.
Because they knew that his point was to show how ludicrous it is to think a random good guy with a gun will help and with comedy, he clearly showed how misguided the idea is.
Yeah, they were in a 'Samantha Bee' type of interaction and did good as do most of her interviews.
Police deal with literal suicides and unpreventable deaths. I'd think most if not all of them are basically totally emotionally numb. I certainly would be.
I admire how the pros cooperated with this.
But having practiced martial arts for decades, I have an idea of how much practice it takes to make sure your body responds the way you want without interference from your panicking brain.
Amen my man. Training is what leads to the "muscle memory" needed in those situations. That is why I think training, real training, should be mandatory.
@@mrjohnnie005 Quite a few gun owners (or wannabe gun owners) are opposed to that. They say it's "yet another obstacle to exercising our Constitutional rights." Because, Murica. I, however, wholeheartedly agree with you. Want to carry outside your home? Fine. Demonstrate proficiency with your weapon, and demonstrate you understand the legality of concealed carrying, when to shoot and when not to shoot. If that's too much for you, leave it locked up in your home.
i've practiced martial arts for 7+ years and I'm still pretty sure i would freeze
@@revanruler6404
I practiced for about 3 weeks.
I am ready to stand tall in the face of crime!
@Ernesto Mathurin Easy to say that typing a comment on the internet, not as much in the heat of the moment with adrenaline and survival instincts surging through your body.
Everybody's a good guy in their own point of view!
Yeah sure! Give the good guy a gun.
Exactly. Who decides what defines "good guy?"
Melissa Perry
Example: a guy walks into a bank and sticks his loaded .45 in the face of a teller and says "fill this bag with money or I will blow your fucking head off". A civilian in the bank, who happens to be carrying his loaded hand gun shoots the bank robber in the back, severing his spinal cord, killing him instantly. That civilian is the definition of a "good guy". Would you disagree with that?
dollar c.g D
Take it easy, pal......you're going to have a stroke!
140 children choke to death every year
we should ban food
if you disagree you're a food nut who cares more about how your taste buds feel than the lives of families ruined because their children died because of food
It is incredible how loose gun policy in the US is, there needs to be something done.
Explain how loose it is.
This fucking guy passed the concealed carry training? Christ, it's way too easy to get a gun in this country.
+George Mason I agree more training should be required to conceal carry
***** And you know that how?
***** How do you know that they did anything off camera? Were you there?
***** This conversation is completely arbitrary lol. I concede, if he was actually granted a concealed carry permit, he probably did take the tests. However, the training he recieved for active shooter situations aren't actually in the training guidelines in Florida.
But let's come to an understand here. Would you grant that it is too easy to get a concealed carry permit? That it should require more training to legally be allowed to carry a firearm in public? Just so you have an idea of how little training concealed carry licensees recieve in Flordia, I'll list the training criteria. The state of Florida only mandates 2.5 total hours of training split between gun safety courses, range time and all classroom testing. Only 2 and a half hours to get a concealed carry license that is valid in 34 states, and it only costs $65 dollars. There are people who may decide that they want to stop a shop lifter by shooting them in the head. There are people who will drink a bit to much and get into a common fist fight, the vast majority of which normally end in very minor cuts and scrapes, and because he or she has a gun he may say that "he feared for his life" and shoot a man in a chest who did not pose an actual threat to his life. There are people who will leave their gun on the table after greasing the barrel, walk away for just a moment to get a glass of water, and not notice their child playing with their accidentally loaded gun until it is too late.
I am not anti-gun. I actually like guns myself, I think going to the shooting range is fun and like president Obama, I fully support the 4 billion dollar program he proposed to encourage safe gun ownership. I do however think that it should be harder to get a gun in this country. This is not to say that I don't think that everyone who wants a gun should have to oppritunity to have them. I just want those people who do want a gun to be trained in exactly how to handle a gun, exactly how to store it so that children will never touch it, I want them to know exactly when it is appropriate to use a gun and more importantly, when it is not. There are so many shootings in this country because people get into a common fist fight and end up shooting their adversary because they do not realize that there is no immediate life threatening danger. I want people to know that even the biggest, most accredited gun training organizations in the country say that in an active shooter event hiding and escaping are the FIRST option, and shooting the attacker is the last. The reason is obvious, police will probably mistake you as the shooter, and when confronted by the shooter if you begin firing without proper training you could very well catch civilians in the cross fire.
Can we at least agree that 2.5 hours of training should not be enough to conceal a weapon in 34 states? I think you are a reasonable enough person to agree with me there.
+zh11147 So, we have to take your word against the word of the training guy that writes gun statics for the FBI...
Who's watching in 2022 after Uvalde and wondering why we train cops to go in and protect students when they legally don't have to go in and protect. :(
Wrong question. Why can you buy guns in a supermarket?
Perfect. I can only imagine how they set these up. "I'm playing a stupid person. I want you to know I'm really not stupid and I'm making a point, but I want you to deal with me in the way you would deal with somebody this stupid."
Sleep tight America, lol.
Herb Tenderson reddit.com/r/iamverybadass
Herb Tenderson well, it fits ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I haven't seen this Jordan guy before, but he is hilarious. This story was well done, funny and information. Great job. Everyone.
You should watch The Opposition with Jordan Klepper
Suuuuper funny
You should see his videos from trump rallies. Too funny!!
Gonna be honest as a trump supporter and disagreeing with a lot of the points he makes he is funny asf and i like watching his videos
@@atrax6519 but they are all true 👍
Chasity King Well we can agree to disagree.
The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is
to take the gun away.
Taken away by a _good_ guy... with a gun?
@@cottonballs185 gun reform lmfao
@@marble_kay1675 Agreed, the *National Firearms Act* is _unconstitutional_ and must be repealed
@@cottonballs185 damn Skippy, jo Jorgensen 2020
But 250 years ago they said we should all have guns, even though all they had was shitty muskets that took a minute to reload and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn
Yes theres crime in other countries. But the level of gun crime and mass shootings in usa is out of control compared to other developed countries.
So is the poverty and the hatred.
realy? US has most scariest inner city neighbourhoods in the world! Poverty in UK is at such low levels, our Unemployment benefit is higher then your minimum wage... poverty my ass.... and hatred really? You just elected the top hater in the world, a Donald fucking Duck, and you say we have more hatred?
bilal SADIQ
Good thing France, Belgium, and Germany never have attacks eith....wait
Tevo77777 kid,
9/11 2000 people died, not a single gun was used... You cant compare a terrorist attack to a mass shooting by a crazy civilian... Terrorists will always have a way to kill people, and if you had your gun in twin towers, you would have died just like evryone else my friend.
in Paris attacks 137 people died... I mean its allot but its like 40% of how many people die in france every year. in US you have 20,000 Gun deaths a year, STFU and read a book or two... and judging by your photo, last person i want to have a gun is you... you one of them creepy gun owners...
***** But, what we did do was enforce airport security so nobody that had any weapons could get onto a plane. The whole point isn't to take guns away, it's to make sure guns are put into the hands of people who are actually qualified.
I never imagined laughing as I did with a guy and a gun in his hand. Klepper is one of the funniest, smartest people around now. What will he do next year when thigs begin to get back to normal?
You forget: fire tornados and murder hornets will be on the upswing 😨
Don't worry there will always be plenty of bullshit in the world to keep it interesting.
Every villain believes he's the hero of his story. There's basically 3 kinds of mass murderers: They believe they're the goodguy, they believe they're the victim, or both.
this is honestly so sad. all jokes and sarcasm aside
"Can't talk with a gun in your mouth." The biggie reference gave me life 😩🙌🏾
But South Park proved that guns can actually help solve problems.
South Park or Daily Show? Which news source should I believe?
South Park by a long shot
South Park by a long shot
it's all sponsored content controlled by the adds.
South Park
+TheSnorkeler Go south park.
My father and I used to have (a LONG time ago) lifetime memberships in the NRA. (Note the past tense.) I used to teach a hunter safety course for them. What they've become now is revolting. Influencing legislation that results in getting a concealed carry permit after answering T/F questions like "Never point a loaded gun up your own butt", and then firing off a couple of clips at a paper target from a distance you could bullseye without ever having held a gun before... not to mention that in spite of the (relatively huge) target area, your shots still hit outside the red...Jesus!
Clearly you don’t know anything about guns if you still call magazines clips
@@qp1946 what a stupid assumption. Are you black or what??
I only began to call them magazines when it was drilled into my brain in the US Army!
@@johnsmithers5551 you wanna fight or what??
Way passed trying to prove that I'm a tough guy and also to old!
“stop fiddling with it you’ll break it off... that’s what my mom used to say” i’m dying
We need more Jordan Klepper on the news these days!
Kinda interesting how having a gun in that simulated school shooting event lead to him being not only being shot by the shooter but also lead him to shooting an unarmed person and also being shot down by the police. Seems to me that having a gun in a shooter situation just makes you more likely to get shot, by not only making you an immediate threat to the shooter, but also making you a perceived threat to the police. To be honest, instead of a gun how about we give everyone bullet resistant riot shields? It may be another idea inspired by Call of Duty but hey at least you wont get shot or mistaken as the shooter as easily...
+Cyberdemon11120 To be fair he didn't but his weapon down like a sane person would've
Yep... there are too many people that think firearms are tools or toys.
+Cyberdemon11120 Just recently in Milwaukee, some asshole coming out of a hostage situation wouldn't put his gun down and got shot because they thought he was the hostage taker instead of a victim.
+CyborgCMorg People don't react sane in extreme situations and under pressure.
+Cyberdemon11120 It was interesting, but wrong. Most of the time a civilian intervenes in a shooting the gunfight is over before the cops show up.
i miss klepper on the daily show he was the best correspondent
Training should be at least 24 hours, and recertification should be done yearly, at a minimum.
see that is what ive always wondered about ... when everyone is running around like headless chickens, screaming what makes these people think they can control the situation without hitting people in a crossfire, its not like people who commit mass shootings wear a uniform or tee shirt that says "shooter" and what if you have several "good guys" with guns in the heat of the crisis how do you tell the good guys from the shooters ... all you going to see is some random person running around with a gun
Rushing to an active shooter scene ,with or without a gun, is never a good idea.
I'm guessing if your family was on scene and in danger you might think differently
I had an argument with a friend about this very same topic. He wanted everyone who qualifies for a gun to have one to protect the public from the bad guys. I then asked him, “when you’re in a situation where both good and bad guys have guns, how do you know who’s good?” His answer, “you know because they’re the good guys.”
Gun fights end pretty fast, isn't like bad boys 2 where everyone shoots at each other for 5 minutes. The only way a shooting last that long is if the bad guy is running through people with ease. Which are the worst cases of mass shootings, one bad person with a gun vs 100 innocent people without one.
“Stop fiddling with it, you’ll break it off!” Lol.
*The Collective Response by Gun Nuts in the Comments*: Don't tell me to wait for the police When I have a gun and need to prove I'm a man!
Ask ex-Marine T.J. Antell about that. Ask Vincent Kelly about that. Unfortunately, not all good guys win.
How did having a "good guy with a gun" there work out?
Because two hundred people with concealed guns in a night club aren't a problem. At all.
Who would take a gun to a bar plus if you're drunk or not well trained you wouldn't stand a chance.
It still doesnt stop stuff like that from happening no matter who has a gun or not. These killers often dont care about their lives what so ever. Also guns for drunk partying people? oh hell no.
"Why was this dude jammin' on my gun nuts" LMAOOOO 😂😂😂😂 This is my new catchphrase
The problem is, that some percentage of the people with carrying permits will always end up committing a crime themselves, having a firearm related accident, enticing the perpetrator to shoot by trying to stop the crime or enabling someone without a permit to gaining access to the legal firearm.
"Good guys with guns" would actually prevent gun violence, if there was a reasonably well established way to determine the part of the population who:
1) Would never use the gun to commit a crime
2) Would never enable someone without a permit to gain access to their gun
3) Would commit to a vigorous training routine
4) Would agree to endanger themselves for the safety of others
Oh wait... that actually sounds a lot like this thing called the law enforcement! Agreed, there will always be corruption, but if vigilante law enforcement actually worked, the romanticization of the wild west should've looked liked the safest era of human history. It's weird that everyone can see the obvious flaws of the system via fiction, but fail to apply the same logic into reality.
US DoJ numbers show that people with concealed carry permits are among the best most law-abiding of any segment of the population. Better than politicians, judges, or police officers, and that civilians who use guns in defense are less than 20% as likely as police to use them wrongly or cause undue harm.
In short, you're full of it.
Law enforcement has no legal Constitutional requirement to protect citizens even if they can and they just sit and watch. It's been established by courts at every level and all across the country.
If you or I might take the chances and go in and try to help, that just shows that we're better than cops with qualified immunity and no duty to protect.
Look up Jeanne Assam, Joel Myrick, Stephen Willeford.
Look up the recent story hardly carried by any news, about a citizen with a pistol shooting back at and stopping a nut firing a rifle at a birthday party. Charleston WVa “Instead of running from the threat, she engaged with the threat and saved several lives last night,” Chief of Detectives Tony Hazelett told news outlets Thursday.
BTW, the " Wild West" had fewer law enforcement per capita, more guns per capita, less crime per capita than today. I already said you're full of it.
This was almost 4 years ago, and here we are still with no common sense laws
I lived in the US in the mid 80s and was shocked by the shootings in the news. By now I am used to it - another school shooting? Yawn, who cares.
What do you mean by common sense laws? Explain please.
Actually there are about 22 thousands gun laws in America. Funny thing is the most common sense is a criminal doesn't follow laws. So who are all these laws for?
Anybody ever think if you ban all the guns you put millions out of work, business close down, and only one type of gun is made for police and service men. Criminal will still get them because they will buy them illegally or take them forcefully from cops.
@J M Freedom to do what? Kill?
"...and a fucking towel to protect my dick n' balls" hahahah that caught me off guard. I really like him, his timing is great
I do not want a gun in my learning environment
Nonsense. To keep everybody safe, everybody in the classroom should carry a gun. Even that emo guy in the back who mumbles about ending it all and getting back at the world.
That would be a great idea for students to have gun sister. No one will ever bully me again,
@@computercrazies
The police shouldn't always be in the learning environment. Cops are for emergencies.
@@computercrazies
Was that last sentence English? Or did you just string some sentences together and forgot about the comma's there?
@@computercrazies
You're only repeating what I said to you before. Stop speaking to yourself.
“... that’s what my mom used to say” underrated joke 3:02
Remember when police would actually go into the school to protect children?
So don’t
No
As an Armed Certified security guard in the state of Oregon who went through hours of highly supervised training, costing my company hundreds of dollars, I'm annoyed at Jordan's ease at getting certed. It should be *at least* as hard for some rando to get a license to use a gun as it was for me
I do believe that could be used for the caption of this video and the idea behind it.
But government, I need my gun locker of semi-automatic assault rifles, that I keep in plain sight of my living room, for hunting wild game in a city where there is none even though I've never been hunting.
The 2nd amendment is not about hunting, though.
Xyleth "semi-automatic" and "assault rifles" don't belong in the same sentence. Please,please,please educate yourself before making ignorant,uninformed statements.
Brewtus Maximus exactly my thought. I see all these liberal comments, but it's the ignorants who really get me...
Xyleth Its for hunting the government if they get out of line actually
Dabbinwaxallday Dabbinwax321 yes, good luck hunting people in military grade body armor, who have tanks, helicopters, and much better weaponry than you. The second amendment was intended for a time when rifles and horses were the best weapons out there.
As a cop, I was required to train one full day each month. Some were daytime some night (w/ red lights & sirens blaring) & after a 1/4 mi run...to elevate heart-rate!
honestly that does not sound like enough to me.
@@danielschroedinger2090 It isn't if you're pushing into an area with armed opposition. It's plenty for you average panicky wackadoo random gunfight with some idiot cause that's all down to draw speed.
@@russetwolf13 how do you have a gunfight, when your opposition is not armed?
@@danielschroedinger2090 You don't... What are you talking about?
How many days training how to shoot minorities and village constitutional rights
A subtle slip in from Sledgehammer... “Trust me, I know what I’m doing!” Awesome Klepper!
Jordan's sarcasm is top notch !
This is good. Once again, Trevor effectively uses humor to make an important and convincing point. "A good guy with a gun....." - it's not that simple. More guns means more people getting shot - possibly event the good guy.
I don't know of anyone who said it'd be simple, everyone merely expresses the desire to try. Of course it actually is super simple, Jordan ran through a training course designed to make it not simple for the purposes of training. Most active shooters who meet resistance literally lock up when they get shot at, a few of them kill themselves the moment they meet resistance.
Remember, this whole training business cuts both ways, the shooter is usually just as bad at this as you are, the only reason they kill so many people is no one ever fights back.
It's sad this video is still relevant. More important now than ever.
So you want to get good guys with guns with lots of training and expertise in the right place to help against bad people?
That’s called law enforcement!
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@Santiago Colla knowing how corrupt and violent US cops are that's probably a good thing
Well, this aged like milk.
When seconds count, law enforcement is minutes away. They show up to write a report.
This is more important than ever.
Santiago Colla because mass shootings are still happening because gun nuts and the NRA are against protecting children
Why was that so hard? That was nothing like Call of Duty...🤣🤣🤣
People should only have guns if they are able to complete a hostage situation like they simulated in the right way. If they fail it, go back to training until you pass the test. Yes, 90% would fail and many wouldn't bother to get a gun anymore. But I prefer a tool that can kill a person with bending your finger only to be in the hands of a person that has proven that he/she knows how to handle this equipment the right way and is clear headed enough, too. We only let people drive tons of steel on the street called cars after they have proven to be able to drive and follow the rules, so why not the same with much more dangerous hardware?
the only problem is that you would end up training those crazy assholes to kill people more efficiently
No just no. I understand your hypothetical plan has the best of intentions and I respect that, but saving hostages or stopping crimes in progress is not why people have a concealed carry weapon on them in the first place. Hostage rescuing is a job that's best left to the professionals, and 99.9% of the people who carry a gun know that.
Anyone who's permitted to have a concealed carry firearm isn't going to use it to seek out and stop criminals, nor should they be expected to. They carry it to protect their own life or the ones they love and they only draw it if they believe they absolutely have to. Some people do make mistakes and it can be a deeply, unfortunate tragedy if they do. That is, however, why I believe more training should be required and that thorough background checks are always needed. That being said, that doesn't mean you should expect every "good person" with a gun to try and be a "hero" because that's not why people choose to carry.
Most realistic situations where you might find yourself at gun point were easily avoidable if you were being cautious in the first place. It's always going to be your job (and your job alone) to avoid these situations if you possibly could have. However, you shouldn't just expect someone you don't even know to put themselves in a life threatening position just because you're already in one.
Granted, they most likely will help you out if they're present, but understand that they have families who care about them too. So why should this man or woman be obligated to help you out if they might get killed too? If you're asking them to save you just because you've found yourself as a hostage, then that's an extremely dangerous position you're asking them to put themselves in. It's also another ridiculously far fetched situation that the news likes to portray. Even the cops themselves would just call for backup rather than trying to engage it on their own.
Lmao you seriously think people NEED to go through classes and courses to drive a car? They can buy one off a private seller and not show any kind of documentation and go drive a car.
By your logic, 99.99% of all law enforcement wouldn't be allowed to carry guns either. Hell 99.99% of the military as well. Not being able to not complete a hostage situation doesn't mean you're not capable of having a firearm. The two don't even connect. It's like saying only people that can drive through an insane, almost unbeatable obstacle course should be allowed to drive. Even after having all those regulations with vehicles, more people die from them than they do guns.
And guns are a right. Driving a car isn't.
FollowMeInfantry maybe because the drive more often then shot each other
Or maybe because all that bullshit people think they have to go through doesn't make them any safer or make them safer drivers?
There's people who shoot more often and for longer than they drive and nothing ever happens. It's only when people are scared of guns and don't treat them with respect, or when parents listen to the bullshit media and alienate their kids from guns that accidents start to happen. Maybe instead of adding more bullshit regulations or calling for bans (like Obama and Hillary want with semi automatic weapons. And they HAVE called for them) we should fund classes that teach gun safety? Guns are never going to go away. Not even "assault weapons". It's time retards understood this.
"I hear shots being fired at an elementary school" this sentence, in itself, is what's wrong with America's view of gun control.
@@dr.OgataSerizawa The fact alone that you recognize that those are gunshots coming from the school and not some random loud noises is wrong in itself. Nobody would think that in Germany, they would think its some children playing with some firecrackers at worst. Although that might be the case just because they havent had a school shooting in the last 10 years.
@@RanplexLP exactly this. Americans don't grasp how all encompassing this is. How it's weeded it's way into the background and become everyday and normal when it's anything but.
I was born in Northern Ireland and now live in Germany. A funny thing has happened to me more than once that makes me realise the impact growing up during the end of the Troubles did. Now and then bombs are found here in Germany. What that means to a German is that an old undetonated war bomb has been uncovered under the ground and the immediate area needs to be cleared as a precaution while it is carefully and professionally dealt with. When I hear a bomb has been found my immediate thought is some sort of terrorist plot, with a bomb left in a car or on the train and it's meant to hurt people.
Shows me how my way of thinking has been warped by where I lived. I can imagine Americans are similarly warped, though most won't ever realise it unless they live in a foreign country where shootings are not really a thing. They will go through live thinking that's how things are whereas in most of the developed western world it's not.
"All you need is a good guy with a gun".
We tried that the LAST 50 YEARS.
I recomend the you tube channel active self protection.
@@josesosa3337 those r the 3-percenters.
Try it again.
And again.
And again.
White people say they get shot just as much as black people do, so by that logic we need more people with guns.
Makes sense to me.
No, we tried running and cowering with no way of fighting back.
@@mjt11860 I guess.
If a good guy has a gun, and knows how to use it safely and effectively then they can stop a bad guy with a gun. But if the good guy doesn’t know what he’s doing then he juts adds to the problem. You can’t just buy a gun and instantly become a hero. Most people who actually carry a defensive firearm on a regular basis know this.
Im a hero, because i kill a human.
Only in america
I don’t think they do know that actually. Perhaps in the past, but it’s become so easy, politicized and prevalent now that I don’t think they do.
what r u doing? you can't come in here being all reasonable and shit. this is no place for such things.
This content of this video is an outstanding example demonstrating why "Good guy with a gun" is NOT the answer. ...too bad no one (that matters) will take it seriously because it was presented as a comedy sketch.
What Jordan Klepper is saying is so true. I have a concealed carry license from Texas.I dont know a thing about guns, how to loads them, types of guns etc etc. I never had a gun, and never will. Basically it was a "party" (kind of) that I was invited to, only it was in a gun range, and we did not drink. They taught us how to load and shoot, they divided us into groups, and I was in the novice group. But that was probably 15 minutes. I dont remember how to load or shoot. They are supposed to lecture for a certain number of hours, they tried to make it as amusing as they could, and in the end they gave us the answers to the questions on the "test" asked by the State. So I can now buy (I wont, but can) a gun, conceal and carry it. I guess, down here, my 2A right trumps your right to live. I mean, Texas would probably argue that had the framers of the constitution thought the right to life is important, they would have put it in the first amendment, rather than in the preamble; and SCOTUS would agree.
@@PTY064 They did not fail anyone. I was not even the worst in the novice group.
possibly the best Jordan Klepper sketch
Guns aren't necessarily bad, but myths about guns are dangerous. A gun is not a good form of self defense. Having a gun in an active shooter event is unlikely to be of much use. The safest way to meet any threat is with overwhelming force, not self aggrandizing "heroics".
+Drake Depew
"Having a gun in an active shooter event is unlikely to be of much use" So how has not having one worked out?
the more popular this idea is, the more disastrous the result. imagine ambiguous situation with 5 people guns drawn, ready to shoot any threat. this will cause more death than the shooter himself.
@t1tacal In point blank range yes! But in public place not everyone is in point blank range and a Good tackle from the shooters hindsight can make him fumble his gun and make him stay on the ground! The FBI report mentioned in the clip has already proven that people has been more successful in stopping shootings through such sudden tackles than having a gun at that moment! A gun takes a hell lotta time to use than a quick tackle bruv believe me!
Proof?
@@throwawaytrash33 Let me be clear, if you believe that having a gun in an active shooter event results in positive consequences, the onus is on you to prove that. If I believe there is no evidence that having a gun in an active shooter event is significantly useful I don't need evidence.
that said if I contend that having a gun in an active shooter event leads to more collateral damage the onus is on me to prove that.
we can discuss prior probabilities, but those are best guesses until data is collected. The fact that we don't collect data is the problem, and that's not being prevented by the gun control side. In truth, everything is a guess until Data is collected. What Data we do have from other countries indicates that state-level (that's country level to Americans) gun control leads to fewer gun deaths on longer time spans.
Recent events make this all the more relevant. We need to do so,ethimg about the number of guns and how easy it is to get them.
This is my all time favorite Daily Show segment
it would be great if people had to have more training and vetting as they apply for better weapons and privileges.
Forcedtojoin Towritereview yeah rather than vetting all the immigrants
Having a gun should be a privilege like driving. If you drive drunk or speed you get your license suspended or taken away, for obvious reasons. We need to first enforce the laws we have, do the background checks, make a functioning, searchable database, and make it easier for the FBI to weed out the bad guys. There are too many loopholes. It's not only mass shootings but daily gun violence that needs to be dealt with.
ghosted166 exactly, i love both guns and cars, but i dont want assholes to have them
The irony is that there are lots of shootings by intruders who broke in unarmed, then simply took the gun away from the tenant and shot him with his/her own gun.
There is safety and there is the illusion of safety.
"It's like Hand Job Village, you guys should come by sometime... I'm getting lost in this metaphor" HAHAHAHAHAHA
This should be shown to Congress.
People should get guns the same way people get a driver's license.
The DMV doesn't sell guns though.
Nicholas Fisher it doesn't sell cars either
LMAO!!!!!
Nicholas Fisher oh my fuck.....
Guns are a constitutional right, driving isn't.
This is actually very accurate representation of what you should do with your concealed permit. You don’t just buy a tool and become a master. Training is worth more than the tool. Software over hardware, you are responsible.
For a mass shooting he sure was alone in that room
The one thing I have never liked of the gun carrier logic is that they automatically assume they are the "good" guys. All of their rationalizations center around this notion that they are just inherently "good". "Good" is not a permanent status that is just bestowed upon you because you think you are. It is a direct reflection of you your thoughts and and actions in any given situation. And what is "good" for you does not mean it is good for everyone else.
It's amazing to me that they don't realise. Almost every time there's some gun-related tragedy, mass shooting, school shooting etc. you hear the _same_ thing afterwards: _"I never expected that from him."_ / _"He was such a nice, quiet guy."_ / _"He was my neighbour and never caused any trouble, stayed inside a lot."_
In most of these cases the offender was a good guy with a gun.. *until they weren't!*
Perhaps random Joe Schmoe is a great guy, never done anything wrong, and is a great good guy with a CCW permit and gun. Until he comes home early one afternoon after a stressful day and finds his wife in bed with another man and in a fit of rage kills them both. Sure glad you armed that good guy with a gun!
Why don't we just stop using guns altogether, and start using BeyBlades instead?
ULTIMATE PEGASUS!
LET IT RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Random Person
Rap songs: These niggas wanna play me some type of way
But with my Rock Leone, they gone right away
Imagine a world where conflicts are solved by either BeyBlades, YuGiOh cards, Crush Gear, Bakugan, etc...
@@thesheepersgame5199 I was gonna say yugioh