That was THE EXACT...look on my face. Like..."Wow... Politicians can actually give a shit?!... I never knew this was possible. He...actually cares...about society..."
Well.. He did continue to serve as a Political representitive, but not in the position of Premier (I guess the equivilent would be Governor?). So it wasn't really political suicide, at least now by his standards / the standards of rational people. He continued, and still continues, to support and push through legislation.
***** your information is flawed & borderline slanderous. Of course, post position,he would be engaged with political connections.However, in the questionable world of politics Rob Borbidge was a philanthropic gentleman.Deserving of respect.
No matter how you feel about gun control, it's terrifying that in America, the first response for "What is a politician's main goal?" was "To get re-elected" instead of "To help the constituents".
selfishness in the purest , to not be loser , failure . pathetic , instead of thinking about society , they think about their position , to be above rest of the people , be within the power , represent it , participate in masquerade . amazing how this delusion can absorb so many potentially great people .
Trump has been campaigning for re-election ever since he got into office. They’ve been talking about 2020 for 3 years. That’s a lot of people they don’t give a f about..
What Americans need to understand is that in Europe and more European influenced countries, it's actually possible for the Conservatives to be a legitimate political party instead of a mental disorder that affects people on the socio-economic level.
Exactly... I generally side with Tories in the UK but in the US i think their conservatives are crazy and wouldn't vote Republican... At least until they move further left
I'm an Australian. Ask me how I felt when prime minister John Howard banned automatic and semi automatic rifles. Go on! OK. I hated it!. I had to hand in a new Ruger Mini 14 223 semi automatic rifle. And for many years afterwards I hated John Howard. Ask me now how I feel now. Go on. OK. I agree with it 100%. What the hell did I actually need a semi automatic rifle for anyway. Australia is a safer place. I live on a farm and from time to time I need to use a rifle for vermin control. Can I buy a rifle if I want to? Yes. Can I buy a pistol if I want to? Yes. Will I be? No. Guns are for killing not home defence! If you have a bar fight or an argument with a neighbour in Australia, the worst that is likely to happen is a punch to the face. In America it's a death sentence!
Good on you for being able to objectively view the results and change your opinion. As an American, I wish there was more people with your level of maturity in my country. Here, people treat guns like a religion and anyone who disagrees or wants change is a heretic.
Phoenix2215 As a fellow American, I am disappointed you lack the maturity to recognize that an anecdote is not an objective view just because you agree with its implication. If the National Firearms Act, Gun Control Act, Hughes Amendment, Brady Bill, and myriad of state/city legislation is not enough change for you, then it is no surprise you would allude to Australia's confiscation measure and expect to be trusted at all
+EagleTopGaming yes, vote for some comedian who just came to America because the idiotic population gets its news and views from A FAKE COMEDY SHOW. and they like to hear the soothing effeminate accent of a limey because it sounds like "he knows what he is talking about"
I find it fascinating hearing John Oliver describe Australian politics with terminology more commonly associated with America -- I've never heard someone call Queensland our 'most conservative state' before, but I guess he's got a point.
Dirk Bogan Oh yeah, the rest of Australia sees QLD as the most conservative state in Australia, and unlike the US who have 50 states, Australia (almost the same land mass as the US), has 6 states and 3 territories. So, when it comes to election time, unfortunately QLD is often the decider state...unfortunately. The problem is that the lifestyle of QLD draws the most annoying of our country men and women to live there (ie. the mega bogans). So unfortunately you have a concentration of neanderthals living there because QLD has the beaches and the sun - which, in a simple person's mind, is the ultimate in lifestyle (and apparently everyone else is jealous). The common reaction to how conservative QLD is, is that the sun fries their brains and they have no idea what is going on. For fuck's sake, they are the only state that has one house of parliament...whaaaat? No need for all those pesky checks and balances, just rush the legislation through so we can all go back to our XXXX and sun tans. It is largely believed by the rest of the country that the only reason Rudd won the 2007 election was because he was a Queenslander, not because of his policies; it was just QLD voting for their own. People in other parts of Australia think Queenslanders are weird and can't figure out what is going on up there. I've even heard some people say that they should be cut free from the rest of Australia, to float off into the Pacific to be their own country...tempting :-)
Americans want guns to protect themselves from criminals, but if they tackled unemployment, lack of effective education and many more social problems, they´d be less criminals to protect from. The point is reducing the crime percentage, not upgrading your killing capabilities.
couldn't have said it better... thats were the fundamental difference is between American's who are pro gun and those who want sensible control mechanism in place.
kyuubitamer And your answer to fixing these issues is ?Tell me kubbytrainor what can a regular working guy do to fix just those 2 issues .You must've gained quite an education in your 16 years of life. Just let me hear an honest answer,that we working stiffs can do to fix them .But let it be known the politicians do whatever the heck they want,and do not listen to the people ,this is a fact
It´s not the job of one regular working guy, it´s the responsability of a society, to organize and and to look after itself. If those people fought for a better life standard just like they fight to keep their guns, the country would be different. But i guess it´s easy for lazy people to simply buy an item to "deal" with a problem rather than fixing the problem itself. Btw thanks for the compliment on my age, you made me feel young again.
kyuubitamer You as "one guy" can discuss with others what you think, reach a consensus maybe. It wouldn't take long for it to spread if it was a popular idea. That's how things go viral, just "one guy".
why is everyone saying your making people defenseless. Defenseless Against what. You take away guns and there isn't guns to have to be protected from. Of course If someone really wants a gun they can get it illegally, but the chance of them having a gun still drastically lowers. I own a gun and I'm Australian. If someone were to break into my house, I could protect my self. I just don't carry a handgun around town, because that's fucked.
***** Why would anyone bother smuggling guns into the US? Plenty there already, and a constant supply being stolen from legal owners, over 230,000 a year www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/fshbopc0510pr.cfm
***** we have the most cultural diversity land in the world, see shit hit the fan because of racism, lucky we don't have guns otherwise we'd see shooting sprees from racist outburst ever second of the day. I'd rather broken bones than a hole in my head.
massive violence? Nice assumption air head, at least our kids don't get shot, where's their protection? Sounds like you need to deflect criticism from your blood thirsty country.
***** You will have to explain how guns being stolen somehow aren't being used in crimes... "You have massive violence" Where did you get that idea? News to me, and I live in our biggest city.
"Making society a better place", "Well, it's your responsibility to govern in the best interest of the people that you serve" How beautiful is this?! Considering that in many parts of the world the politicians we elect are supposed to be "the voices of their people" and most of the time really aren't, this one is doing it right, with a perfect mindset, showing every other politician how it's supposed to be. Thank you so much for existing and taking it seriously!
Technically, they wouldn't be violating the second amendment if they only legalized one type of firearm. So only legalize the types of firearms that existed in 1776!
Sam Karrenstein I just live in a very silly world. It's a world where superior technology and firepower made it America's bitch, and Americans honestly think that whatever peashooters they have will be enough to enforce the part of the constitution that gives them the right to overthrow the government that made the world its bitch.
+TinyFoxTom Would you technically not be violating the first amendment, if you only legalized the types of communication that existed in 1776, and outlawed all of the types of communication that rely on modern technology to function?
+TinyFoxTom I hope you're being sarcastic. Under your argument, the government could ban radio, TV, and the internet because those things didn't exist in 1789 (the year the Constitution was ratified.) They could also ban Mormonism and Baha'i because those religions didn't exist in 1789. What an incredibly stupid argument.
Commonwealth96 So stabbings prove gun control doesn't work? I am curious to know how that makes sense... In Australia less guns are used in crime. Restricting gun availability makes guns more difficult and more expensive to get, meaning less guns in criminal's hands. Of course, this will take a while, as the US has decades of stupidity to make up for...
Of course, because every American is against any form of gun control. /sarcasm Poll after poll have shown that a majority of Americans are in favor of stricter gun laws. How Americans view other countries in terms of gun laws isn't twisted, your view of Americans is.
Commonwealth96 Oh dear, that really doesn't work. You made one good point, which I agree with totally; mental health services are vital. Not that I agree with just locking them all up as you suggest. Smuggled guns? Why would a crim bother? According to the Dept Justice stats, over 15 million guns were stolen in the US between 2005 and 2010. That's where the crims get their guns from, the homes of the gun owners! Gun control reduces that supply, as PROVEN here. There are less shootings, less crimes involving guns, and NO shooting massacres. There you go, dots connected.
Commonwealth96 The decline is because less households have guns. Yeah, getting the guns off the career criminals will be hard, noone said it wouldn't be, but 25% of the homicides in the US are people killing a family member! Nearly 1000 people die to gun accidents, MANY of them children getting to unsecured firearms. Yeah, just ignore the 15 million guns stolen, it destroys your point so lets hope it goes away, right?
Commonwealth96 My source? The FBI crime stats, go on Google it. "Guns don't kill people. People kill people." Yes, and guns make it oh so much easier. Heck just look at the US homicide rate, Iran and Vietnam are safer!
Americans say Australia is dangerous because of all the snakes and crocodiles and stuff, but to be honest, i feel a lot safer than living in a country where people are gunned down on a regular basis
people are bludgeoned stabbed and gunned down in Australia, getting shot would be a much nicer way to die than be bashed with a sledge hammer , which seems to happen quite regularly
Templedelagloire hahahahaahahahahah you are such a paid troll , being paid by the global elites like half the people on this video, EVERYONE please look up "PAID GOVERNMENT TROLLS" the global elites use these people to sway public opinion ,They thumbs up their own comments with fake accounts, thank you and goodbye i will not reply further as communicating with paid trolls never goes anywhere
Abbott is still far better than Krudd and gillard put together. And you want labor back im power after they fucked up so badly previously??? Fucking clown! XD
From what I can tell, gun control is really just A. Making people have to jump through a few more hoops to actually get a firearm. B. Limiting the selection one has on firearms, such as limiting them to a pistol for home defense, or requiring a hunting license to own a hunting rifle or shotgun. Jon Stewart suggested making other types of guns like assault rifles available, but only at shooting ranges. Making mentally-damaged people have to work harder to acquire guns is the point I see from gun control. A child snags cookies from the cookie jar? Hide the jar, or put it somewhere the child can't reach. "But the 2nd amendment--" says you have a right to bear arms. This does not say you're allowed to keep a nuclear stockpile under your house. If a pistol is all you need to defend your home, why do people need assault rifles or semi-automatic weapons and other stuff that's mostly used in the military? And what's the problem with more in-depth background checks? If I owned a gun store, I'd probably want to make absolutely certain the person I'm selling this gun to doesn't have a history of violence or mental instability. "But guns aren't the only way to kill people--" Yes, knives and hammers and all that are also used... But here's the thing: THE ONLY PURPOSE OF A GUN IS TO KILL PEOPLE. If that's the only thing it's meant to do, why shouldn't we work to make sure it's not put in the hands of someone who REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE IT? Gun control might not be a fool-proof solution, but it's the best one on the table, and Australia has shown that it won't cause a nation to go down in flames.
"if you don't get reelected, you know, you're just roadkill in the political process and you're just another loser" truly the eloquent leader this country needs
The moment when I realized that my economics and gov classes in high school taught word-for-word that “a politician’s job is to get re-elected”. Well shit.
Coming back seven years later what I find most striking is the premier's stone cold delivery of "I hope you've got a lot of tape" when offered a chance to say some corrupt shit.
I love how Manley is like “Okay, that’s a-“, as if Oliver somehow laid a trap for him. He literally asked him a simple straightforward question and he answered with a brain dead response
Thank you, brother! I knew there were still LOTS and LOTS of good Australians down under! I support you and those like you who still love freedom and believe in gun rights!
Gun control is not a bad idea, just make sure you regulate the right guns. In 2010 There were 11,078 gun-related homocides. 6,009 of those, were handguns Ie pistols. 1,939 were with an unspecified fire-arm(Ie shotguns and other, at least to my understanding, feel free to look this up, and tell me i am wrong). And 358 murders were reported to have happened with fire-arms. Rifles, of course mean, guns such as the always feared ar-15, AK-47, or Remington 700 or other "dangerous black rifles"
+Marcus Ryser Pistol easier to conceal, lighter, easier to shoot. what crime do you want to prevent? How many people do you want to prevent being killed? 1-5 people a hand gun will do, 5-100 you'll need something a little bigger.
Cinnabun I dont quite understand what you mean? You want to ban bigger guns, because you can avoid massacres, altough pistols, account for a much bigger portion of murders?
Marcus Ryser I said nothing of banning. You said "dangerous black rifles" implying they didn't deserve such a title. Don't get me confused I don't think banning them is a solution I think strict licensing and personality vetting is a start.
Cinnabun I said dangerous black rifles, because i thought it was an odd name, when you looked at statistics. "only" 358 murders were committed with rifles. And this covers any rifle. From uncle johns old hunting rifle, to the "dangerous black rifles" Yet, the biggest killer is handguns. By a landslide. I just think you should start legislation where it's needed the most, and then take it from there. But again, i dont live in the US, it's not my job to tell ya what to do.
In Europe start massive of gun confiscation starts. Like Australia EU wants to ban all semiautomatic guns, like in Australia in 1996. Gueast what. Europeans are totally ok with it. Take note USA.
No fucking way are Europeans OK with it. The EU Commission in aftermath of the Paris terror want to ban semi auto weapons in lawful citizens hands, that will not stop terrorists buying full auto guns on the black market.
So 15 likes under your comment triumfs over 350,000 signatures on a petition against the EU gun ban. The semi autos are not the only thing the commission goes after. The only sensible in the proposal is more standardized and stricter rules for de activating weapons.
You don't need to confiscate shit in most countries, since we don't have access to semi-automatic anyways. You can get a shotgun for hunting or sports reason, and pepper sprays or some tasers for self-defense. More than enough.
As a New Zealander, we have a healthy rivalry with the Aussies. It's sometimes hard to give them the credit they deserve for their rugby etc but mate - I bloody applaud Australia for their gun control. They saw a problem and took action. Bloody brilliant
Grace Gary If you are Africans/African-Ameican you wont find much trouble here. In Australia, unlike America, we never had black slaves, so blacks being oppressed and exploited wasn't introduced into our culture. Also the Aboriginal discrimination is overly-exaggerated, yes there are those racists, just like in every country, but recently it has died down. About the new election, I'm not very undated as to how our new Prime Minister is. I'm pretty sure I heard he's Labour, which sometimes can be a bad thing. But I heard he's all for legalizing gay marriage, so that's off to a good start. I do hope he's not a racist, misogynistic, and religious-orientated Prime Minister that was Tony Abbott. And I don't want another bad Labourer where they would carelessly raise the unemployment by closing our jobs just to save a few trees. Even though in the Logging business you are required to replant the exact amount you cut down.
The rate of gun violence *did continue to drop* gradually after the ban, *just as it had been doing for years* before. The violent crime rate increased tho. Assault 150%, rape 22% and robberies went from sixteen thousand in 1997 to 26 thousand in 2001. Meanwhile the crime rate in the US decreased dramatically. Could this possibly be because bad actors knew people were rendered defenseless and only had the police as protection? Those not around while you're being attacked?
Comprehensive Harvard study: law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf "To bear that burden would at the very least require showing that a large number of nations with more guns have more death and that nations that have imposed stringent gun controls have achieved substantial reductions in criminal violence (or suicide). *But those correlations are not observed when a large number of nations are compared across the world."*
Leftists "think" that just because we live in the future and it ain't 1776 anymore, we don't need a firearm, and "think" the government is out there to serve the public.
Random Guy Yeaaaa!!! Arm the peasants give them their semi autos and fully automatic rifles so that when the servants of the people (bound by oath to protect those in need) come by can do absolute squat.
The funny thing is violent crime overall in Australia has actually risen while violent crime in the US has continued to decline for the last few decades. Disarming law abiding citizens does not reduce crime, it has the complete opposite effect.
fineblanket The reason the US has so many incidents at schools is because ignorant law makers think hanging a sign will stop criminals. Our schools have become convenient targets because the law abiding citizens are legally prohibited from defending themselves. When someone does decide to exploit that vulnerability for whatever reason, the school's protocol is to sit and wait (Shelter in place) until people with guns arrive, this is stupid. Overall violence in Australia is higher, as is violence in the UK, and other countries with extremely restrictive laws that make it illegal to defend yourself. Keep in mind these laws in no way stop criminals, because they break they law. The perpetrators of the Columbine massacre violated not only the then Federal 1994 "Assault Weapons ban", but also the National Firearms Act by manufacturing almost 200 explosives without paying a $200 tax for each one, (The NFA is from 1934). My question is do you actually feel safer without these over-hyped televised incidents even though there is actually more crime and more victims in your country because you are not legally allowed to defend yourselves?
Actual violent crime is higher, Australia is worse off in every single way. Literally anything can be a weapon. Thats an extremely stupid goal to aim for when overall violence is higher. More people are being victimized because not only have they been disarmed but are legally prevented from defending themselves.
Jose Santos Anything has the potential to be a weapon. In the case of Australia where Semi-Automatic firearms are almost completely illegal, CRIMINALS do not obey the law. While you could argue that someone with malicious intent could do more harm with a gun than a knife, violent crime has gone up not down, so if the intent at all is to reduce crime, or reduce the amount of victims it has failed miserably. THE FACTS SIMPLY DO NOT SUPPORT BANNING WEAPONS TO REDUCE CRIME. I can't make that point any clearer. I am assuming you are referring to Semi-Automatic weapons (1 Shot per trigger pull) and not Fully-Automatic weapons which even in the US are extremely difficult to acquire legally. To own a Full-Auto firearm in the us takes 12-15 months, a $200 tax, and around $15,000 -$30,000 or more for the weapon itself. Of course if you're a criminal or don't care about the law you can do it in your garage for about $100 in an hour.
Thats why I couldn't live in a country run by inept politicians... The facts are there, you don't need guns in a first world country, with exceptions for police or the defence force. This is what makes Australia the greatest country in the world!
Average police response time is 7 minutes. If you don't have a way to defend yourself, then you're broke. Or worse, dead. A firearm is the best way to accomplish this. Banning guns doesn't make it harder for criminals to get them, it makes it impossible for citizens that want to defend themselves to get them.
Fucking idiot. Australian government is taking away your freedom as I speak. Guns are needed to fight Tyranny, a first world country doesn't have tyranny right? The police can be trusted with guns but the general public cant? Mhhm. You sir are a twat. Everytime you take away guns from countries the gun rate lowers, but the overall crime rate rises. It's like how the women of India signed petitions to get guns, because it's not the gun that kills , it's not the metal pole that kills. You think without guns mass murder will stop? Ever heard of homemade bombs? It's fucking easier than going into a mall and shooting up a dozen cunts. I bet you believe everything that the media tells you, you're one of those people. You know, they're going to take away every single gun now just because of ISIS. Does it occur to any of you that ISIS was funded by the US? How much information do you people need to wake up? Australia is a terrible country, I live here and I need to get out. You have police bullying a religious minority, the Australian government breaks their own laws. Infact this comment could get me locked up for a maximum of 10 years. Oh the taste of freedom.
Here's a thing for people who defend guns to think about: If we have the law of open arms to protect ourselves, why do more gun crimes happen here? It's made to protect, yet, somehow, it only allows easier access to people who want to commit a crime? School shootings happen often. Teens aren't going to get their hands on a gun easily if it's against the law, but if their parents have 5 and they've been out shooting for fun, they know how to use it and have VERY easy access to one! You're not gonna show up at your kids school with you gun and stop the shooter... You're just giving more people a chance to be the shooter. And if you're gonna argue saying "Well, they can just use knives to rob people, are they going to take away my knives too?!". No.. that's not the point. If everyone had access to an instant million dollars, everyone would be rich. I mean, there is no instant million dollars. People can still make a million dollars. But it is much harder to pull off. So yeah there CAN still be crimes committed by using knives, but it's much harder to hold up dozens of people with knives. Therefore, people won't do it as much.
I guess if one was ignorant of most facts regarding gun rights/politics this might sound perfectly intuitive. But if you actually look at the issue than it's fairly clear that legal gun ownership does not inherently increase gun crime. If you're looking solely at the US this stands true and if you look at the rest of the world it stands true as well. For instance, the US has been experiencing downwards trend in all crime categories, gun crime included, for the past few decades. While this has happened, gun rights across the US are generally more liberal, gun ownership rates are rising and this is with the proliferation of concealed and open carry. Now let's look at the UK, in which in 1994 they enacted a handgun ban. Few years later, what do you know but handgun crime is spiking, along with murder rates. This seems woefully incompatible with your statements here above. Then there's Brazil, Mexico and Thailand. All restrict legal gun ownership pretty heavily and yet have massive amount of gun crime. Lastly, criminals can and do get guns illegally. This is factual. In 2011 in Belgium, there was mass shooting in which the shooter had grenades, again, grenades. Not a shred of a legal chance to own a grenade as a citizen and yet he somehow acquired one. Also even if criminals are by some magical force deterred from getting guns illegally, guns are not just used in defense against other guns. In the hand of a 5 foot tall 85 year old woman, a gun is going to help her far more against an assailant than just her bare hands.
crazypants88 *[**_"if you actually look at the issue than it's fairly clear that legal gun ownership does not inherently increase gun crime"_**]* You can still have gun ownership and have gun control.
Mason Nix I don't know man. The British don't have moronic gun laws. They don't have bought and paid for politicians. And they haven't legalised bribery. In all of these cases America is far worse. Australia may be better than the UK. US certainly isn't.
I know Trump said millions times that how much he loves America and how much he what to serve the people. I am from Hong Kong, but even I can not imaging that American can still believe in him and vote for him.
2:20 No, there's no wiggling out of this one little worm, your first response was way too natural and anything you say after that can only sound like a poorly thought out excuse.
I'm from Australia and every time this debate rolls around to us were just so happy to be included in the discussion. We don't care if the US enacts legislatio to protect themselves. We are safe and We're just happy that we a are important enough to get mentioned.
What I find most interesting is that if you actually examine the crime statistics of Australia, it is clear that gun deaths and homicide rates were already in a steady decline before this legislation was enacted in '96. After the ban was enacted, that steady decline continued at roughly the same trajectory. If someone was to claim that the ban itself was responsible for the decline in homicide rates after it was enacted, they would have to show a marked descent in the overall trajectory of the statistical decline punctuated in the year 1996 when it was enacted. However, this is not the case. You can also see in the statistics that there was already a steady decline in deaths by firearms starting as a trend as far back as 1969, and the legislation of '96 did not accentuate that average rate of decline in any noticeable way. The pattern was already there and well on its way. Now here is the really interesting part. Look up violent crime rates in Australia. You will see a steady increase in violent assault crime since 1996, with a continued upward trajectory at a steep rate. What the statistics are really saying: 1. Gun deaths and homicide rates were already on a steady decline well before and after the gun laws were put into affect, with overall decline rates altering hardly at all with the passing of the legislation. 2. Violent crime rates are on the rise after the passing of this legislation. From these numbers, I can't be certain that this gun legislation can claim all the credit for declining homicide crime statistics... See: www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4524A092E30E4486CA2569DE00256331
That is simply not true. 1. The trend for homicides was increasing from 1991 to 95 as shown in your first link. It dropped from there, other than a spike in 2001/2 due to a gang war. Our total homicide rate WAS 1.8/100,000 it is now 1.0/100,000. 2. the rising trend of violent crime was established well before gun control. Your link only shows from the time gun control started, you make an incorrect assumption the trend started there also. Gun control also saw a major drop in the number of successful suicides, as the easiest and most foolproof way was removed. RoV
ratofvengence 1. I am not talking about micro trends, but macro trends in homicide rates. IF you look at the graphs, you will see a steady decline over long periods of time. Look at the bigger picture man... 2. I did not say that the rising trend of violent crime started with gun control. Once again, if you look at the larger trends, that too has been on a steady increase for a long time, however you do see increases in percentage gains after 1996. The point here is both trends were well on their way, and gun control really did not affect either one. But it is definitely not doing anything to halt violence.
Justin Hammonds Do you actually live here Justin? It isnt dangerous at all. All those 'statistics of crime' that you state to make Australia seem more dangerous without guns does not actually represent how we feel in Australia. It is safe, and i would leave my country if people wanted guns in supermarkets or in my children's school.
Kevin Grunsell Well then why is the US rated 3rd in feeling safe walking in the dark and OZ is 14th dumbass. Your a media bullshit apostle. www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Perception-of-safety/Walking-in-dark
bee b That's 1 of the most stupid comparisons I've ever seen. It's pointless doing things like that when 100% of crime isn't reported! www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Murder-rate#description WOW, you should move to Afghanistan, you'd be safer.
Homicides and violent crime in Australia were already on their way down before the legislation in 1996, and after the legislation was passed, they continued to fall at the same rate. Had the legislation made a difference, the decline would have been far greater. Instead, you have some politicians taking advantage of a massacre in AU and then, rushing to pass laws to make themselves look good, fully knowing that violent crime was falling, in spite of a one-off massacre. They did it to draw a connection between their actions and a better situation, or at least, to lure the voters in with a "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (correlation imply causation) fallacy.
What a bastard is a US representative whose chief goal is HIS re-election. What an angel is the Aussie, to serve and best serve the people. Wow. Australia, please keep me there.
As an elected official who's supposed to serve the people going against what they want and either doing what you think is right for everyone and trampling their rights or a special interest group which in his case was evidently the anti-gun lobby will not always go well with those who put you in office namely the voters, in Colodado three law makers have been removed from their positions for such reasons and a 4th resigned before she could be recalled and there are other states which this will be happening soon. This is two way street of course and their are maby issues that can effect how people look at their elected officials.
I don't think so, people know what they need without media and gun lobbies telling them anything especially those law abiding people who live in crime infested areas or who like to hunt and sport shoot.
Eric Moore It isn't the sporting shooters or the hunters that are the problem. We have them too, and it isn't an issue. The problem is so many people with so many guns.
Thought this guys post was interesting and true TheOne As a British citizen I must admit to being envious of your freedoms. Here in the UK we still have very serious problems with gun crime and violence. We have a situation whereby almost the entire stock of firearms are exclusively in the possession of criminals (save for a few with firearms certificates which are prohibitively difficult to acquire). The argument that we have no practical need for firearms and that they should therefore be banned is fundamentally flawed two fold. Firstly, if your state possess firearms and you do not, how on earth can you expect to protect yourself from it? Secondly, we do not need cigarettes, alcohol, fast cars or extreme sports to name but a few items and activities that are responsible for FAR more deaths than firearms so the argument for safety is at best hypocritical. A civilized society treats all as equal, here in the UK, more and more (not just firearms), the people are submissive to the state and have less and less power over it. We are supposed to believe that we cannot be trusted to determine our own actions and that the state knows best. That is not a civilized society. FYI the safest place I have ever been to (statistically) was Camp Bastion, Afghanistan. Every man jack carried his weapon, I literally couldn't take a shit without my SA80A2 - yet it was the safest place I've ever been to. Guns are simply tools like any other, it is PEOPLE and their intent that cause harm.
Is possessing a gun really enough to protect you from a government, though? If James Cameron or whoever really wants to kill you and is willing to use whatever force necessary to achieve that, surely he'd always be able to muster a greater force than you. You have a pistol, but he can get 8 guys to breach your house from every direction while throwing flashbangs through the windows.
***** Yes Kelly Thomas and that is where I live. POLICE are becoiming militarized operating with no consequense. Like the 2 pickup trucks shot up by 2 groups of cops by mistaken identity while looking for a cop who spoke againdt police brutality. Add in homeland security and the NSA spying on citizens and it becomes clear why our bankster run gov flys the gun control propaganda.
gentlemancoates A gun can not garentee your saftey there is nothing practical that can. It can definatly help and when people organise its now 10 guys against those 8 and tacticaly speaking advantage of bieng in your home and lie and wait evens odds too. With a gas mask the tear gas does not effect you and flash bangs are not crippling its a flash bang not a tazer. The Alamo comes to mind. Six guys running and 2 spatered by buckshot from my Saiga 12
I totally agree and hope you guys can overturn all of those gun restrictions. I was just watching the Ukraine uprising and a guy said that their government had taken all their guns in the past and they couldn't even own hunting rifles. When the police opened fire on the protesters the poor people were defenseless. I've always heard that gun control was a Communistic idea dreamed up by Stalin and it looks like whoever said that was right. You're right when everyone is armed there's no crime, because it's instant death penalty for the criminals if they try to mess with anyone. In my state, like many other, we are allowed to carry a concealed firearm and the criminals are being either eliminated or are afraid to mess with anybody, because they don't know who's armed. They've even started showing videos on you tube where criminals are being shot by concealed carry citizens under the search "ccw in action". Once again I'm sorry that they took your guns and America is a big country and there's plenty of room for you if you decide you want to live with gun freedom. I just met a guy the other day in Wal Mart buying a gun and he had recently moved here from Britain.
This is why Australia is the best country in the world. Can walk down the street safely knowing I'm not going to gets head blown off... America is a good holiday destination and that's about all.
***** Lol, any city has those one or two places that are pretty damn rough. That said, Kings Cross is fine so long as you aren't stupid. Like Mannix said, you can walk the streets safely here. Go for a jog in the US and you risk being shot!
***** See, there you go again, being quite wrong. Australia hasn't banned guns; we have gun CONTROL. Certain types of guns are not available. Certain types of guns are only available to people who actually need them. Guns must be registered, and licensing is quite restricted. It is not a ban. We have sporting shooters, we have gun clubs, farmers have their working guns. Anything else I can school you in? :)
Yes i am safe now so when I get bashed in the street by Middle Eastern thugs I will just laugh and say at least they are not armed wait they are.Australia is on a slide down so get used to more crime.
"South Australia is now trying to ban all semi auto pistols, claiming they are over powered." from one of the posts below. Typical ignorant misinformed anti-gun BS, besides a few semi-auto pistols out there that are made to handle large calibers (Desert Eagle for example) the majority of semi-auto hand guns are between 22 to 45 caliber (9mm being the most popular) while revolvers are often chambered for ammunition that is far more powerful.
Actually it was a move by the Greens (a minority party) to adopt the banning of semi-automatic pistols in SA as a policy point. The gun owners association, shooters and fishers party, and the libertarian party have joined together to try and gain conservative votes on the issue (they are all the remnants of our NRA). _"The number of drive-by shooting incidents had risen from 73 in 2010 to 88 last year, a rate of around seven drive-by shootings each month."_ First world problems compared to the 600k shootings in US lol. Also another article by a Greens supporter was total crap. In the same paragraph they said the majority of registered gun owners were using firearms for legitimate purposes (they didn't mention hunting because the Greens oppose all hunting) but at the same time as saying that the majority were law abiding citizens they later said many were cowboys but that assertion was not based on any statistics. They basically contend that anyone participating in hunting activities is a cowboy but don't have any stats to back it up and don't want to say that directly because people will know they are stupid. Much of the hunting activity targets feral non-native animals that damage the habitats of native animals. The left wing journalists have taken advantage of the conservative media hyping up the number of shootings lol and are using that as grounds for further gun bans. Conservatives derped. I spoke with a Deputy Police Commissioner in my state, and current anti bikkie gang legislation and potential gun regulation in other states is being used by governments in other states to look like they are being tough on crime whilst at the same time they cut police numbers.
Eric Moore The inconsistency with their call to ban hunting and handguns is that its extremely difficult to get permits to hunt with handguns unless you have a disability and can't use a rifle. However even then it could be more difficult to meet the different states competency requirements for hunting as well. Depends what you mean by getting tough on criminals. In our state rather than just jailing (gaoling) people the police are also working with community leaders to address the underlying issues, this raises the respect for police in the community and also has been quite effective in dealing with a range of issues. More police presence and police doing constructive work with communities. That costs money though. Unlike in the US, the public's trust in the police force has increased in the past two decades especially in my state where they turned the police force completely upside down to stamp out corruption.
True. It looks scary. The more I watch, the more it scares me. At first I thought OMG, their politicians are completely crazy... But then I started to read and listen to the people... It's like another planet. Everything is backwards. And half of my life I was told americans are the goal of civilization. I have been lied too. Big time.
Here is what I think: There are always some crazy people in society, like 1 in 10 thousand people. They will sometimes try to go out and hurt other people, like driving into them, shoot others, or stabbings. Take away guns and they do a lot less damage. They'd feel a lot less powerful. They'd be more timid to actually do it.
DaddyChan When was the last time a hostile force has been close enough to attempt to invade the US? And owning a gun doesn't mean you can fight off a trained army.
***** According to FBI crime data, the US homicide rate was 9.5 in 1993 and 4.5 in 2013. For the last twenty years crime rates have been dropping in every western country by significant margins, regardless of gun laws.
Ciscogrande lower violent crime rates then most Western European countries and a sexual assault rate one third of Sweden's. Homicides is the only crime that the US is an outlier on.
"You are a great human being. It's just by all American standards, you are a sh*t politician. And the fact that that is true is why I am going to walk into the f*cking ocean." -- John Oliver, 2013
1:54 John Oliver's confused look regarding a politician doing the right thing is friggin priceless.....haha!
That was THE EXACT...look on my face.
Like..."Wow... Politicians can actually give a shit?!... I never knew this was possible. He...actually cares...about society..."
: i did.
: what?
: i did.
Asks Suspiciously "did what?"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
the Irony is Strong with this one
I call that look, the "Tucker"
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Velvet Dawn that clearly isn’t working
I wouldn't call it the right thing
So an Australian politician willingly gave up his political power to do what he thought was right? lololol That would never ever happen in the US.
Well.. He did continue to serve as a Political representitive, but not in the position of Premier (I guess the equivilent would be Governor?). So it wasn't really political suicide, at least now by his standards / the standards of rational people. He continued, and still continues, to support and push through legislation.
***** your information is flawed & borderline slanderous. Of course, post position,he would be engaged with political connections.However, in the questionable world of politics Rob Borbidge was a philanthropic gentleman.Deserving of respect.
Yeah, but sometimes citizens do it. Like ed snowden
kind of seems to me like people in america are pretty selfish
most of them at least
No matter how you feel about gun control, it's terrifying that in America, the first response for "What is a politician's main goal?" was "To get re-elected" instead of "To help the constituents".
Brandon Stickels a politicians main goal is power & $$$$$
selfishness in the purest , to not be loser , failure . pathetic , instead of thinking about society , they think about their position , to be above rest of the people , be within the power , represent it , participate in masquerade .
amazing how this delusion can absorb so many potentially great people .
Trump has been campaigning for re-election ever since he got into office. They’ve been talking about 2020 for 3 years. That’s a lot of people they don’t give a f about..
Enjoy my tax dollars motherf*ckers. :)
Yup! All because they get filthy rich in office because of lobbyists and corporate bribes.
"a perfect lesson for america to ignore"
10000000%
Essentially
What Americans need to understand is that in Europe and more European influenced countries, it's actually possible for the Conservatives to be a legitimate political party instead of a mental disorder that affects people on the socio-economic level.
Exactly... I generally side with Tories in the UK but in the US i think their conservatives are crazy and wouldn't vote Republican... At least until they move further left
+Callum Scott that's because America has a Conservative party and a very very very Conservative party
+Callum Scott The Tories are just as crazy as the republicans...
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not at all. a bit bunkers but not full blown retards.
I'm an Australian. Ask me how I felt when prime minister John Howard banned automatic and semi automatic rifles. Go on! OK. I hated it!. I had to hand in a new Ruger Mini 14 223 semi automatic rifle. And for many years afterwards I hated John Howard. Ask me now how I feel now. Go on. OK. I agree with it 100%. What the hell did I actually need a semi automatic rifle for anyway. Australia is a safer place. I live on a farm and from time to time I need to use a rifle for vermin control. Can I buy a rifle if I want to? Yes. Can I buy a pistol if I want to? Yes. Will I be? No. Guns are for killing not home defence! If you have a bar fight or an argument with a neighbour in Australia, the worst that is likely to happen is a punch to the face. In America it's a death sentence!
Gangster88232 you are crazy to compare human lives with rats and snakes...
Good on you for being able to objectively view the results and change your opinion. As an American, I wish there was more people with your level of maturity in my country. Here, people treat guns like a religion and anyone who disagrees or wants change is a heretic.
great I believe decades from now my country will catch up to the rest of the world
Phoenix2215 As a fellow American, I am disappointed you lack the maturity to recognize that an anecdote is not an objective view just because you agree with its implication. If the National Firearms Act, Gun Control Act, Hughes Amendment, Brady Bill, and myriad of state/city legislation is not enough change for you, then it is no surprise you would allude to Australia's confiscation measure and expect to be trusted at all
David Handley I’m sure women in America whose home has just been broken into disagree with u mate
Rob Borbidge is a great man. May he (politically) rest in peace.
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This video summarizes just about everything that is wrong with american politics. Can I vote for John Oliver just so he can break things up?
+EagleTopGaming I'd join you on that campaign.
+EagleTopGaming yes, vote for some comedian who just came to America because the idiotic population gets its news and views from A FAKE COMEDY SHOW. and they like to hear the soothing effeminate accent of a limey because it sounds like "he knows what he is talking about"
+strober dolb the comedy is real. "Fake comedy show" doesn't make any sense. Maybe phrase it as "satire", if you understand what that means.
ravenofhope maybe I should have said FAKE NEWS SHOW. Yeah I know what satire is, you are so clever.
+strober dolb I'd vote for John Oliver over Donald Trump RIGHT AWAY.
I find it fascinating hearing John Oliver describe Australian politics with terminology more commonly associated with America -- I've never heard someone call Queensland our 'most conservative state' before, but I guess he's got a point.
***** Too true!
Dirk Bogan It is an American show so of course they are going to use terminologies that most Americans understand.
Sebastian B. Congratulations! You've entirely missed the point... :-/
Dirk Bogan Oh yeah, the rest of Australia sees QLD as the most conservative state in Australia, and unlike the US who have 50 states, Australia (almost the same land mass as the US), has 6 states and 3 territories. So, when it comes to election time, unfortunately QLD is often the decider state...unfortunately.
The problem is that the lifestyle of QLD draws the most annoying of our country men and women to live there (ie. the mega bogans). So unfortunately you have a concentration of neanderthals living there because QLD has the beaches and the sun - which, in a simple person's mind, is the ultimate in lifestyle (and apparently everyone else is jealous).
The common reaction to how conservative QLD is, is that the sun fries their brains and they have no idea what is going on.
For fuck's sake, they are the only state that has one house of parliament...whaaaat? No need for all those pesky checks and balances, just rush the legislation through so we can all go back to our XXXX and sun tans.
It is largely believed by the rest of the country that the only reason Rudd won the 2007 election was because he was a Queenslander, not because of his policies; it was just QLD voting for their own.
People in other parts of Australia think Queenslanders are weird and can't figure out what is going on up there.
I've even heard some people say that they should be cut free from the rest of Australia, to float off into the Pacific to be their own country...tempting :-)
Foxtrot369 And you mistake cultural differences as ignorance.
Americans want guns to protect themselves from criminals, but if they tackled unemployment, lack of effective education and many more social problems, they´d be less criminals to protect from. The point is reducing the crime percentage, not upgrading your killing capabilities.
couldn't have said it better... thats were the fundamental difference is between American's who are pro gun and those who want sensible control mechanism in place.
kyuubitamer And your answer to fixing these issues is ?Tell me kubbytrainor what can a regular working guy do to fix just those 2 issues .You must've gained quite an education in your 16 years of life. Just let me hear an honest answer,that we working stiffs can do to fix them .But let it be known the politicians do whatever the heck they want,and do not listen to the people ,this is a fact
It´s not the job of one regular working guy, it´s the responsability of a society, to organize and and to look after itself. If those people fought for a better life standard just like they fight to keep their guns, the country would be different. But i guess it´s easy for lazy people to simply buy an item to "deal" with a problem rather than fixing the problem itself. Btw thanks for the compliment on my age, you made me feel young again.
kyuubitamer You as "one guy" can discuss with others what you think, reach a consensus maybe. It wouldn't take long for it to spread if it was a popular idea. That's how things go viral, just "one guy".
kyuubitamer Well said
THAT GUY WAS A POLITICIAN!?
BUT HE IS HONEST, HE SACRIFICED HIS CAREER!
THAT CANNOT BE A POLITICIAN
That's exactly why he lost his career. He made the costly mistake of being honest.
Not a costly mistake at all
no he was not a politician, he was a civil servant. As they often are called.
*****
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A bad man. He ignored the people who elected him. That is their job, to represent not put their twisted version of morality over the peoples will.
This is still relevant. Very relevant.
and isn't sad that after 3 years this topic is more relevant than ever...
plenty of time to avoid a tragedy
Yup
Like last week relevant, its relevant all year round in U.S.
Disasters Today you could almost say it’s Last Week Tonight relevant
Especially now
What makes a politician successful? - "Getting re elected by his/her constituents". Therein lies the problem
so what are you suggesting? XD
Yup its all about the money not what's actually good for the people
Exactly
a fantastic lesson for america to ignore
Silly John Oliver thinking he could get an American politician to think about what's best for the people
why is everyone saying your making people defenseless. Defenseless Against what. You take away guns and there isn't guns to have to be protected from. Of course If someone really wants a gun they can get it illegally, but the chance of them having a gun still drastically lowers. I own a gun and I'm Australian. If someone were to break into my house, I could protect my self. I just don't carry a handgun around town, because that's fucked.
***** Why would anyone bother smuggling guns into the US? Plenty there already, and a constant supply being stolen from legal owners, over 230,000 a year www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/fshbopc0510pr.cfm
*****
we have the most cultural diversity land in the world, see shit hit the fan because of racism, lucky we don't have guns otherwise we'd see shooting sprees from racist outburst ever second of the day. I'd rather broken bones than a hole in my head.
massive violence? Nice assumption air head, at least our kids don't get shot, where's their protection? Sounds like you need to deflect criticism from your blood thirsty country.
***** You will have to explain how guns being stolen somehow aren't being used in crimes...
"You have massive violence" Where did you get that idea? News to me, and I live in our biggest city.
***** Please quote a source for these statistics then :)
"Making society a better place", "Well, it's your responsibility to govern in the best interest of the people that you serve"
How beautiful is this?! Considering that in many parts of the world the politicians we elect are supposed to be "the voices of their people" and most of the time really aren't, this one is doing it right, with a perfect mindset, showing every other politician how it's supposed to be.
Thank you so much for existing and taking it seriously!
When the Australian politician said "because it's the right thing to do." that's it..
Technically, they wouldn't be violating the second amendment if they only legalized one type of firearm. So only legalize the types of firearms that existed in 1776!
You are a very silly person.
Sam Karrenstein
I just live in a very silly world. It's a world where superior technology and firepower made it America's bitch, and Americans honestly think that whatever peashooters they have will be enough to enforce the part of the constitution that gives them the right to overthrow the government that made the world its bitch.
+TinyFoxTom
Would you technically not be violating the first amendment, if you only legalized the types of communication that existed in 1776, and outlawed all of the types of communication that rely on modern technology to function?
carultch
Yes, especially since modern forms of communication enable us to fly drones that fire guns.
+TinyFoxTom I hope you're being sarcastic. Under your argument, the government could ban radio, TV, and the internet because those things didn't exist in 1789 (the year the Constitution was ratified.) They could also ban Mormonism and Baha'i because those religions didn't exist in 1789. What an incredibly stupid argument.
I always wonder how Americans see other countries? "wait, they have gun controls but they aren't all slaves? I don't get it"
Commonwealth96 So stabbings prove gun control doesn't work? I am curious to know how that makes sense...
In Australia less guns are used in crime. Restricting gun availability makes guns more difficult and more expensive to get, meaning less guns in criminal's hands. Of course, this will take a while, as the US has decades of stupidity to make up for...
Of course, because every American is against any form of gun control. /sarcasm
Poll after poll have shown that a majority of Americans are in favor of stricter gun laws.
How Americans view other countries in terms of gun laws isn't twisted, your view of Americans is.
Commonwealth96 Oh dear, that really doesn't work. You made one good point, which I agree with totally; mental health services are vital. Not that I agree with just locking them all up as you suggest.
Smuggled guns? Why would a crim bother? According to the Dept Justice stats, over 15 million guns were stolen in the US between 2005 and 2010. That's where the crims get their guns from, the homes of the gun owners!
Gun control reduces that supply, as PROVEN here. There are less shootings, less crimes involving guns, and NO shooting massacres. There you go, dots connected.
Commonwealth96 The decline is because less households have guns.
Yeah, getting the guns off the career criminals will be hard, noone said it wouldn't be, but 25% of the homicides in the US are people killing a family member! Nearly 1000 people die to gun accidents, MANY of them children getting to unsecured firearms.
Yeah, just ignore the 15 million guns stolen, it destroys your point so lets hope it goes away, right?
Commonwealth96 My source? The FBI crime stats, go on Google it.
"Guns don't kill people. People kill people." Yes, and guns make it oh so much easier. Heck just look at the US homicide rate, Iran and Vietnam are safer!
They should have called it "Part Whoopditwo"
Americans say Australia is dangerous because of all the snakes and crocodiles and stuff, but to be honest, i feel a lot safer than living in a country where people are gunned down on a regular basis
people are bludgeoned stabbed and gunned down in Australia, getting shot would be a much nicer way to die than be bashed with a sledge hammer , which seems to happen quite regularly
Dont forget spiders. I hate spiders.
kira0080 so big they have health bars
***** sure, but there are no sledge hammer massacres in Australia, are there?
Templedelagloire
hahahahaahahahahah you are such a paid troll
, being paid by the global elites like half the people on this video, EVERYONE please look up
"PAID GOVERNMENT TROLLS" the global elites use these people to sway public opinion ,They thumbs up their own comments with fake accounts,
thank you and goodbye i will not reply further as communicating with paid trolls never goes anywhere
The hilarious part is how good they're making our (Australian) government look when right now in 2015 we have the worst prime minister imaginable.
Abbott is still far better than Krudd and gillard put together.
And you want labor back im power after they fucked up so badly previously???
Fucking clown! XD
Still miles better than whatever the hell they're doing in the US
Foxclass anything is still miles better than what the US are doing...
GamerDares Wins *kilometers better
Foxclass "expression" yah
Whoop - De - Doo
Whoop-De-Fucking-Do indeed
From what I can tell, gun control is really just
A. Making people have to jump through a few more hoops to actually get a firearm.
B. Limiting the selection one has on firearms, such as limiting them to a pistol for home defense, or requiring a hunting license to own a hunting rifle or shotgun. Jon Stewart suggested making other types of guns like assault rifles available, but only at shooting ranges.
Making mentally-damaged people have to work harder to acquire guns is the point I see from gun control. A child snags cookies from the cookie jar? Hide the jar, or put it somewhere the child can't reach.
"But the 2nd amendment--" says you have a right to bear arms. This does not say you're allowed to keep a nuclear stockpile under your house. If a pistol is all you need to defend your home, why do people need assault rifles or semi-automatic weapons and other stuff that's mostly used in the military?
And what's the problem with more in-depth background checks? If I owned a gun store, I'd probably want to make absolutely certain the person I'm selling this gun to doesn't have a history of violence or mental instability.
"But guns aren't the only way to kill people--" Yes, knives and hammers and all that are also used... But here's the thing: THE ONLY PURPOSE OF A GUN IS TO KILL PEOPLE. If that's the only thing it's meant to do, why shouldn't we work to make sure it's not put in the hands of someone who REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE IT?
Gun control might not be a fool-proof solution, but it's the best one on the table, and Australia has shown that it won't cause a nation to go down in flames.
dsmithers944 ...I'm sorry, what? Where in that comment did I imply I didn't want background checks?
dsmithers944 You might want to re-read what he said...
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If you're using Breitbart and Infowars as sources, you have no place in any debate.
Agreed
"if you don't get reelected, you know, you're just roadkill in the political process and you're just another loser"
truly the eloquent leader this country needs
3:29 "I hope you've got alot of tape"
Savage
When he said "A fantastic lesson for America to ignore" I choked up. Ugh. I want to walk into the ocean too, Mr. Oliver.
The moment when I realized that my economics and gov classes in high school taught word-for-word that “a politician’s job is to get re-elected”. Well shit.
2:00 "How much is a life worth?" To the GOP, not very much.
Yep
They care about you up til your birth then after you turn 18
Jim's point is very accurate though - very few politicians would support common sense laws if it meant they lost their congressional district or seat.
Coming back seven years later what I find most striking is the premier's stone cold delivery of "I hope you've got a lot of tape" when offered a chance to say some corrupt shit.
Whoop-dee-doo indeed. LOL. Awesome piece; thank you guys.
I love how Manley is like “Okay, that’s a-“, as if Oliver somehow laid a trap for him. He literally asked him a simple straightforward question and he answered with a brain dead response
Proof that John Oliver deserved his own show. I am so happy for him
Indeed
Thank you, brother! I knew there were still LOTS and LOTS of good Australians down under! I support you and those like you who still love freedom and believe in gun rights!
02:25 That whole "It's second? It's second!" bit was hilarious
This segment is still as relevant as 10 years ago.
This video is old enough to be in school and literally nothing has changed.
Change is slow and painful but it's through the will of people like you that we can work towards educating and reforming this broken, broken system
Still relevant 5 years later. Way to go America
"Physically they're probably safer than they've ever been before" I love that.
Gun control is not a bad idea, just make sure you regulate the right guns.
In 2010 There were 11,078 gun-related homocides.
6,009 of those, were handguns Ie pistols.
1,939 were with an unspecified fire-arm(Ie shotguns and other, at least to my understanding, feel free to look this up, and tell me i am wrong).
And 358 murders were reported to have happened with fire-arms. Rifles, of course mean, guns such as the always feared ar-15, AK-47, or Remington 700 or other "dangerous black rifles"
+Marcus Ryser Pistol easier to conceal, lighter, easier to shoot.
what crime do you want to prevent?
How many people do you want to prevent being killed?
1-5 people a hand gun will do, 5-100 you'll need something a little bigger.
Cinnabun I dont quite understand what you mean? You want to ban bigger guns, because you can avoid massacres, altough pistols, account for a much bigger portion of murders?
Marcus Ryser I said nothing of banning.
You said "dangerous black rifles"
implying they didn't deserve such a title.
Don't get me confused I don't think banning them is a solution I think strict licensing and personality vetting is a start.
Cinnabun I said dangerous black rifles, because i thought it was an odd name, when you looked at statistics. "only" 358 murders were committed with rifles. And this covers any rifle. From uncle johns old hunting rifle, to the "dangerous black rifles" Yet, the biggest killer is handguns. By a landslide. I just think you should start legislation where it's needed the most, and then take it from there. But again, i dont live in the US, it's not my job to tell ya what to do.
Marcus Ryser I don't live there either.
the problem is no one wants any legislation.
It's 2015!
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I love going back and watching old clips of John Oliver. He was hilarious even back then!
“Making society a better place.”
I love this series. I am loving John Oliver.
2:07 he summed up the reality of most politicians' thought in a pretty dumb yet honestly delivered answer
The world would be a better place if there were more people like Rob Borbidge.
But I need my cannons in case the Queen of England decides to take us back!
In Europe start massive of gun confiscation starts. Like Australia EU wants to ban all semiautomatic guns, like in Australia in 1996. Gueast what. Europeans are totally ok with it. Take note USA.
No fucking way are Europeans OK with it. The EU Commission in aftermath of the Paris terror want to ban semi auto weapons in lawful citizens hands, that will not stop terrorists buying full auto guns on the black market.
Likes under my comment proved my truth. Truth hutrs, doesnt?
So 15 likes under your comment triumfs over 350,000 signatures on a petition against the EU gun ban.
The semi autos are not the only thing the commission goes after. The only sensible in the proposal is more standardized and stricter rules for de activating weapons.
Fenrir 350 000 votes from a few milion gun owners. So gun owners are not having semiautos, cuz your petition have been signed by a few ones.
You don't need to confiscate shit in most countries, since we don't have access to semi-automatic anyways. You can get a shotgun for hunting or sports reason, and pepper sprays or some tasers for self-defense. More than enough.
john Oliver interviews are the best
one of the best and most damning segments i can remember from this show, Gawd bless both Jon & John.
As a New Zealander, we have a healthy rivalry with the Aussies. It's sometimes hard to give them the credit they deserve for their rugby etc but mate - I bloody applaud Australia for their gun control. They saw a problem and took action. Bloody brilliant
I want to move to Australia after watching this.
Just don't come by boat
Sarah Boon hahaha great call
TehMorbidAtheist Wait until Abbots out of the office. And make sure another Labourer doesn't get elected next.
+MLG Pengu what about now?
Also, your people aren't fair to aboriginals; I'm black, so would moving there pose to be a problem?
Grace Gary If you are Africans/African-Ameican you wont find much trouble here. In Australia, unlike America, we never had black slaves, so blacks being oppressed and exploited wasn't introduced into our culture. Also the Aboriginal discrimination is overly-exaggerated, yes there are those racists, just like in every country, but recently it has died down.
About the new election, I'm not very undated as to how our new Prime Minister is. I'm pretty sure I heard he's Labour, which sometimes can be a bad thing. But I heard he's all for legalizing gay marriage, so that's off to a good start. I do hope he's not a racist, misogynistic, and religious-orientated Prime Minister that was Tony Abbott. And I don't want another bad Labourer where they would carelessly raise the unemployment by closing our jobs just to save a few trees. Even though in the Logging business you are required to replant the exact amount you cut down.
I just want to point out that Queensland has a city of Townsville.
Nothing but love..love for John Oliver's wit
The rate of gun violence *did continue to drop* gradually after the ban, *just as it had been doing for years* before.
The violent crime rate increased tho. Assault 150%, rape 22% and robberies went from sixteen thousand in 1997 to 26 thousand in 2001. Meanwhile the crime rate in the US decreased dramatically. Could this possibly be because bad actors knew people were rendered defenseless and only had the police as protection? Those not around while you're being attacked?
Comprehensive Harvard study: law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
"To bear that burden would at the very least require showing that a large number of nations with more guns have more death and that nations that have imposed stringent gun controls have achieved substantial reductions in criminal violence (or suicide). *But those correlations are not observed when a large number of nations are compared across the world."*
Leftists "think" that just because we live in the future and it ain't 1776 anymore, we don't need a firearm, and "think" the government is out there to serve the public.
+Joey Zasa uh.. that's probably because the government.. IS out there to serve the public.
+Joey Zasa That's.. kind of the entire point of a governing body.
Random Guy Yeaaaa!!! Arm the peasants give them their semi autos and fully automatic rifles so that when the servants of the people (bound by oath to protect those in need) come by can do absolute squat.
The funny thing is violent crime overall in Australia has actually risen while violent crime in the US has continued to decline for the last few decades. Disarming law abiding citizens does not reduce crime, it has the complete opposite effect.
fineblanket The reason the US has so many incidents at schools is because ignorant law makers think hanging a sign will stop criminals. Our schools have become convenient targets because the law abiding citizens are legally prohibited from defending themselves.
When someone does decide to exploit that vulnerability for whatever reason, the school's protocol is to sit and wait (Shelter in place) until people with guns arrive, this is stupid.
Overall violence in Australia is higher, as is violence in the UK, and other countries with extremely restrictive laws that make it illegal to defend yourself. Keep in mind these laws in no way stop criminals, because they break they law.
The perpetrators of the Columbine massacre violated not only the then Federal 1994 "Assault Weapons ban", but also the National Firearms Act by manufacturing almost 200 explosives without paying a $200 tax for each one, (The NFA is from 1934).
My question is do you actually feel safer without these over-hyped televised incidents even though there is actually more crime and more victims in your country because you are not legally allowed to defend yourselves?
But gun violence reduced. That's the point.
Actual violent crime is higher, Australia is worse off in every single way.
Literally anything can be a weapon. Thats an extremely stupid goal to aim for when overall violence is higher. More people are being victimized because not only have they been disarmed but are legally prevented from defending themselves.
SecretCobraz still a gun is a far more effective tool of killing, especially a automated weapon witch is able to gun down a crowed in seconds.
Jose Santos Anything has the potential to be a weapon. In the case of Australia where Semi-Automatic firearms are almost completely illegal, CRIMINALS do not obey the law.
While you could argue that someone with malicious intent could do more harm with a gun than a knife, violent crime has gone up not down, so if the intent at all is to reduce crime, or reduce the amount of victims it has failed miserably. THE FACTS SIMPLY DO NOT SUPPORT BANNING WEAPONS TO REDUCE CRIME. I can't make that point any clearer.
I am assuming you are referring to Semi-Automatic weapons (1 Shot per trigger pull) and not Fully-Automatic weapons which even in the US are extremely difficult to acquire legally. To own a Full-Auto firearm in the us takes 12-15 months, a $200 tax, and around $15,000 -$30,000 or more for the weapon itself.
Of course if you're a criminal or don't care about the law you can do it in your garage for about $100 in an hour.
Thats why I couldn't live in a country run by inept politicians... The facts are there, you don't need guns in a first world country, with exceptions for police or the defence force.
This is what makes Australia the greatest country in the world!
Average police response time is 7 minutes. If you don't have a way to defend yourself, then you're broke. Or worse, dead. A firearm is the best way to accomplish this. Banning guns doesn't make it harder for criminals to get them, it makes it impossible for citizens that want to defend themselves to get them.
Fucking idiot. Australian government is taking away your freedom as I speak. Guns are needed to fight Tyranny, a first world country doesn't have tyranny right? The police can be trusted with guns but the general public cant? Mhhm. You sir are a twat. Everytime you take away guns from countries the gun rate lowers, but the overall crime rate rises. It's like how the women of India signed petitions to get guns, because it's not the gun that kills , it's not the metal pole that kills. You think without guns mass murder will stop? Ever heard of homemade bombs? It's fucking easier than going into a mall and shooting up a dozen cunts. I bet you believe everything that the media tells you, you're one of those people. You know, they're going to take away every single gun now just because of ISIS. Does it occur to any of you that ISIS was funded by the US? How much information do you people need to wake up? Australia is a terrible country, I live here and I need to get out. You have police bullying a religious minority, the Australian government breaks their own laws. Infact this comment could get me locked up for a maximum of 10 years.
Oh the taste of freedom.
Rowan Krebs your so full of shit mate. Get a grip
*You're so full of shit,
But thanks. I'm pretty sure I've got a grip seeing that I can back up my arguments with fact.
I think you will find that New Zealand is a little bit better/ greater then Aus because our police don't even need guns ;)
I hope Rob can watch these videos, show them to their kids and grandkids and swell with pride. What a great guy.
1:55 That's a priceless face, the good thing is he's acting
Here's a thing for people who defend guns to think about: If we have the law of open arms to protect ourselves, why do more gun crimes happen here? It's made to protect, yet, somehow, it only allows easier access to people who want to commit a crime?
School shootings happen often. Teens aren't going to get their hands on a gun easily if it's against the law, but if their parents have 5 and they've been out shooting for fun, they know how to use it and have VERY easy access to one!
You're not gonna show up at your kids school with you gun and stop the shooter... You're just giving more people a chance to be the shooter.
And if you're gonna argue saying "Well, they can just use knives to rob people, are they going to take away my knives too?!". No.. that's not the point. If everyone had access to an instant million dollars, everyone would be rich. I mean, there is no instant million dollars. People can still make a million dollars. But it is much harder to pull off. So yeah there CAN still be crimes committed by using knives, but it's much harder to hold up dozens of people with knives. Therefore, people won't do it as much.
I guess if one was ignorant of most facts regarding gun rights/politics this might sound perfectly intuitive. But if you actually look at the issue than it's fairly clear that legal gun ownership does not inherently increase gun crime. If you're looking solely at the US this stands true and if you look at the rest of the world it stands true as well.
For instance, the US has been experiencing downwards trend in all crime categories, gun crime included, for the past few decades. While this has happened, gun rights across the US are generally more liberal, gun ownership rates are rising and this is with the proliferation of concealed and open carry.
Now let's look at the UK, in which in 1994 they enacted a handgun ban. Few years later, what do you know but handgun crime is spiking, along with murder rates. This seems woefully incompatible with your statements here above.
Then there's Brazil, Mexico and Thailand. All restrict legal gun ownership pretty heavily and yet have massive amount of gun crime.
Lastly, criminals can and do get guns illegally. This is factual. In 2011 in Belgium, there was mass shooting in which the shooter had grenades, again, grenades. Not a shred of a legal chance to own a grenade as a citizen and yet he somehow acquired one. Also even if criminals are by some magical force deterred from getting guns illegally, guns are not just used in defense against other guns. In the hand of a 5 foot tall 85 year old woman, a gun is going to help her far more against an assailant than just her bare hands.
crazypants88 *[**_"if you actually look at the issue than it's fairly clear that legal gun ownership does not inherently increase gun crime"_**]*
You can still have gun ownership and have gun control.
I'm so proud to be an Australian after watching this series :)
Australians>Americans
Scott Schuette Yeahhhh but lets face it. America is pretty much a prison colony now.
Chris Wallace Here a better analogy
Everyone>British
Mason Nix I don't know man. The British don't have moronic gun laws. They don't have bought and paid for politicians. And they haven't legalised bribery. In all of these cases America is far worse. Australia may be better than the UK. US certainly isn't.
Chris Wallace
UK is full of bible thumping idiots.
Mason Nix .. I don't think you've been to the uk... Can you even find it on a map?
Whose here after 17 year olds begged politicians to so something about guns and were yelled at by full grown adults? #NeverAgain
I'm so glad John got his own show so we get an extended dose of this stuff weekly!
The answer to what makes a politician succesful.. Gawwdd.. Seriously American Politicians?!?!!
thank you Rob
john's adorable little bunny nose twitch 1:04
I know Trump said millions times that how much he loves America and how much he what to serve the people.
I am from Hong Kong, but even I can not imaging that American can still believe in him and vote for him.
Man, I love John Oliver. Period. Head over heels kind of love and then of course Jon Stewart comes very very close.
John oliver.. The best interviewer... Hands down...
I love who John Oliver makes these politicians look like the stupid ones and his job is comedy
"This is 'Murica!!!" shouting while holding 2 M249
"I did"
"U what m8?"
I’ll keep my Guns, Freedom and Money... you can keep the change.
Sensible gun control saves lives as proven by the leadership shown by many conservative Australian politicians in the late 90s.
2:20 No, there's no wiggling out of this one little worm, your first response was way too natural and anything you say after that can only sound like a poorly thought out excuse.
Pause at exactly 2:13 John Oliver's face says it all.
I'm from Australia and every time this debate rolls around to us were just so happy to be included in the discussion. We don't care if the US enacts legislatio to protect themselves. We are safe and We're just happy that we a are important enough to get mentioned.
This makes me so profoundly sad as an American.
2013: no
2014: no
2015: no
2016: no
2017: no
2018: no
2019: you want to see this VIDEO
What I find most interesting is that if you actually examine the crime statistics of Australia, it is clear that gun deaths and homicide rates were already in a steady decline before this legislation was enacted in '96. After the ban was enacted, that steady decline continued at roughly the same trajectory.
If someone was to claim that the ban itself was responsible for the decline in homicide rates after it was enacted, they would have to show a marked descent in the overall trajectory of the statistical decline punctuated in the year 1996 when it was enacted. However, this is not the case. You can also see in the statistics that there was already a steady decline in deaths by firearms starting as a trend as far back as 1969, and the legislation of '96 did not accentuate that average rate of decline in any noticeable way. The pattern was already there and well on its way.
Now here is the really interesting part. Look up violent crime rates in Australia. You will see a steady increase in violent assault crime since 1996, with a continued upward trajectory at a steep rate.
What the statistics are really saying:
1. Gun deaths and homicide rates were already on a steady decline well before and after the gun laws were put into affect, with overall decline rates altering hardly at all with the passing of the legislation.
2. Violent crime rates are on the rise after the passing of this legislation.
From these numbers, I can't be certain that this gun legislation can claim all the credit for declining homicide crime statistics...
See:
www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html
www.aic.gov.au/statistics/violent%20crime.html
www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4524A092E30E4486CA2569DE00256331
That is simply not true.
1. The trend for homicides was increasing from 1991 to 95 as shown in your first link. It dropped from there, other than a spike in 2001/2 due to a gang war. Our total homicide rate WAS 1.8/100,000 it is now 1.0/100,000.
2. the rising trend of violent crime was established well before gun control. Your link only shows from the time gun control started, you make an incorrect assumption the trend started there also.
Gun control also saw a major drop in the number of successful suicides, as the easiest and most foolproof way was removed.
RoV
ratofvengence
1. I am not talking about micro trends, but macro trends in homicide rates. IF you look at the graphs, you will see a steady decline over long periods of time. Look at the bigger picture man...
2. I did not say that the rising trend of violent crime started with gun control. Once again, if you look at the larger trends, that too has been on a steady increase for a long time, however you do see increases in percentage gains after 1996.
The point here is both trends were well on their way, and gun control really did not affect either one. But it is definitely not doing anything to halt violence.
Justin Hammonds Do you actually live here Justin? It isnt dangerous at all. All those 'statistics of crime' that you state to make Australia seem more dangerous without guns does not actually represent how we feel in Australia. It is safe, and i would leave my country if people wanted guns in supermarkets or in my children's school.
Kevin Grunsell Well then why is the US rated 3rd in feeling safe walking in the dark and OZ is 14th dumbass. Your a media bullshit apostle.
www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Perception-of-safety/Walking-in-dark
bee b
That's 1 of the most stupid comparisons I've ever seen. It's pointless doing things like that when 100% of crime isn't reported!
www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Murder-rate#description
WOW, you should move to Afghanistan, you'd be safer.
Homicides and violent crime in Australia were already on their way down before the legislation in 1996, and after the legislation was passed, they continued to fall at the same rate. Had the legislation made a difference, the decline would have been far greater.
Instead, you have some politicians taking advantage of a massacre in AU and then, rushing to pass laws to make themselves look good, fully knowing that violent crime was falling, in spite of a one-off massacre. They did it to draw a connection between their actions and a better situation, or at least, to lure the voters in with a "post hoc ergo propter hoc" (correlation imply causation) fallacy.
huge amount of respect to the australian, who faced consequences to protect the countrymen
What a bastard is a US representative whose chief goal is HIS re-election. What an angel is the Aussie, to serve and best serve the people. Wow. Australia, please keep me there.
Yes and that angel lost his job as a result of it and knows it, he evidently wasn't an angel everyone's eyes.
As an elected official who's supposed to serve the people going against what they want and either doing what you think is right for everyone and trampling their rights or a special interest group which in his case was evidently the anti-gun lobby will not always go well with those who put you in office namely the voters, in Colodado three law makers have been removed from their positions for such reasons and a 4th resigned before she could be recalled and there are other states which this will be happening soon.
This is two way street of course and their are maby issues that can effect how people look at their elected officials.
Eric Moore Too many scared sheeple, scared by the gun lobby and the media into believing they 'need' their guns to be safe.
I don't think so, people know what they need without media and gun lobbies telling them anything especially those law abiding people who live in crime infested areas or who like to hunt and sport shoot.
Eric Moore It isn't the sporting shooters or the hunters that are the problem. We have them too, and it isn't an issue. The problem is so many people with so many guns.
I want to move to Australia now.
Come mate it's paradise
@@tesca77 You are awesome! But some of your your animals scare me. A LOT. Greetings from Europe! :)
Watching in 2017, After I found out Jon Oliver worked here for so long...he is amazing.
Thought this guys post was interesting and true
TheOne
As a British citizen I must admit to being envious of your freedoms. Here in the UK we still have very serious problems with gun crime and violence. We have a situation whereby almost the entire stock of firearms are exclusively in the possession of criminals (save for a few with firearms certificates which are prohibitively difficult to acquire). The argument that we have no practical need for firearms and that they should therefore be banned is fundamentally flawed two fold. Firstly, if your state possess firearms and you do not, how on earth can you expect to protect yourself from it? Secondly, we do not need cigarettes, alcohol, fast cars or extreme sports to name but a few items and activities that are responsible for FAR more deaths than firearms so the argument for safety is at best hypocritical. A civilized society treats all as equal, here in the UK, more and more (not just firearms), the people are submissive to the state and have less and less power over it. We are supposed to believe that we cannot be trusted to determine our own actions and that the state knows best. That is not a civilized society. FYI the safest place I have ever been to (statistically) was Camp Bastion, Afghanistan. Every man jack carried his weapon, I literally couldn't take a shit without my SA80A2 - yet it was the safest place I've ever been to. Guns are simply tools like any other, it is PEOPLE and their intent that cause harm.
***** I think the two of you have found your perfect match lol.
Is possessing a gun really enough to protect you from a government, though? If James Cameron or whoever really wants to kill you and is willing to use whatever force necessary to achieve that, surely he'd always be able to muster a greater force than you. You have a pistol, but he can get 8 guys to breach your house from every direction while throwing flashbangs through the windows.
***** Yes Kelly Thomas and that is where I live. POLICE are becoiming militarized operating with no consequense. Like the 2 pickup trucks shot up by 2 groups of cops by mistaken identity while looking for a cop who spoke againdt police brutality. Add in homeland security and the NSA spying on citizens and it becomes clear why our bankster run gov flys the gun control propaganda.
gentlemancoates A gun can not garentee your saftey there is nothing practical that can. It can definatly help and when people organise its now 10 guys against those 8 and tacticaly speaking advantage of bieng in your home and lie and wait evens odds too. With a gas mask the tear gas does not effect you and flash bangs are not crippling its a flash bang not a tazer. The Alamo comes to mind. Six guys running and 2 spatered by buckshot from my Saiga 12
I totally agree and hope you guys can overturn all of those gun restrictions. I was just watching the Ukraine uprising and a guy said that their government had taken all their guns in the past and they couldn't even own hunting rifles. When the police opened fire on the protesters the poor people were defenseless. I've always heard that gun control was a Communistic idea dreamed up by Stalin and it looks like whoever said that was right. You're right when everyone is armed there's no crime, because it's instant death penalty for the criminals if they try to mess with anyone. In my state, like many other, we are allowed to carry a concealed firearm and the criminals are being either eliminated or are afraid to mess with anybody, because they don't know who's armed. They've even started showing videos on you tube where criminals are being shot by concealed carry citizens under the search "ccw in action". Once again I'm sorry that they took your guns and America is a big country and there's plenty of room for you if you decide you want to live with gun freedom. I just met a guy the other day in Wal Mart buying a gun and he had recently moved here from Britain.
This is why Australia is the best country in the world. Can walk down the street safely knowing I'm not going to gets head blown off... America is a good holiday destination and that's about all.
***** Lol, any city has those one or two places that are pretty damn rough. That said, Kings Cross is fine so long as you aren't stupid. Like Mannix said, you can walk the streets safely here. Go for a jog in the US and you risk being shot!
***** See, there you go again, being quite wrong. Australia hasn't banned guns; we have gun CONTROL. Certain types of guns are not available. Certain types of guns are only available to people who actually need them. Guns must be registered, and licensing is quite restricted. It is not a ban. We have sporting shooters, we have gun clubs, farmers have their working guns. Anything else I can school you in? :)
Yes i am safe now so when I get bashed in the street by Middle Eastern thugs I will just laugh and say at least they are not armed wait they are.Australia is on a slide down so get used to more crime.
***** So what you are saying is any facts which prove you wrong MUST therefore be part of the great conspiracy? Got enough tin foil there mate?
***** Quote a reference to this data you speak of. Go on, it's only the third time I have challenged you to do so...
"South Australia is now trying to ban all semi auto pistols, claiming they are over powered." from one of the posts below.
Typical ignorant misinformed anti-gun BS, besides a few semi-auto pistols out there that are made to handle large calibers (Desert Eagle for example) the majority of semi-auto hand guns are between 22 to 45 caliber (9mm being the most popular) while revolvers are often chambered for ammunition that is far more powerful.
Actually it was a move by the Greens (a minority party) to adopt the banning of semi-automatic pistols in SA as a policy point. The gun owners association, shooters and fishers party, and the libertarian party have joined together to try and gain conservative votes on the issue (they are all the remnants of our NRA).
_"The number of drive-by shooting incidents had risen from 73 in 2010 to 88 last year, a rate of around seven drive-by shootings each month."_
First world problems compared to the 600k shootings in US lol.
Also another article by a Greens supporter was total crap. In the same paragraph they said the majority of registered gun owners were using firearms for legitimate purposes (they didn't mention hunting because the Greens oppose all hunting) but at the same time as saying that the majority were law abiding citizens they later said many were cowboys but that assertion was not based on any statistics. They basically contend that anyone participating in hunting activities is a cowboy but don't have any stats to back it up and don't want to say that directly because people will know they are stupid. Much of the hunting activity targets feral non-native animals that damage the habitats of native animals.
The left wing journalists have taken advantage of the conservative media hyping up the number of shootings lol and are using that as grounds for further gun bans. Conservatives derped. I spoke with a Deputy Police Commissioner in my state, and current anti bikkie gang legislation and potential gun regulation in other states is being used by governments in other states to look like they are being tough on crime whilst at the same time they cut police numbers.
We need more of that getting tough on criminals here, good post.
Eric Moore The inconsistency with their call to ban hunting and handguns is that its extremely difficult to get permits to hunt with handguns unless you have a disability and can't use a rifle. However even then it could be more difficult to meet the different states competency requirements for hunting as well.
Depends what you mean by getting tough on criminals. In our state rather than just jailing (gaoling) people the police are also working with community leaders to address the underlying issues, this raises the respect for police in the community and also has been quite effective in dealing with a range of issues. More police presence and police doing constructive work with communities. That costs money though. Unlike in the US, the public's trust in the police force has increased in the past two decades especially in my state where they turned the police force completely upside down to stamp out corruption.
I believe I have already commented on my stance about what should done with violent offenders.
Eric Moore The Australian perspective is that the death penalty can lead to injustice, with vulnerable groups overly represented in those killed.
I'm absolutely stunned watching this
(This is how America looks to most people who live outside your county an stumble across the odd Fox News video lol)
True. It looks scary. The more I watch, the more it scares me. At first I thought OMG, their politicians are completely crazy... But then I started to read and listen to the people... It's like another planet. Everything is backwards. And half of my life I was told americans are the goal of civilization. I have been lied too. Big time.
Here is what I think:
There are always some crazy people in society, like 1 in 10 thousand people. They will sometimes try to go out and hurt other people, like driving into them, shoot others, or stabbings.
Take away guns and they do a lot less damage. They'd feel a lot less powerful. They'd be more timid to actually do it.
Why does a civilian need a fucking assault rifle? WHY?! Did the elk evolve thumbs and skill in armed robbery?!
When's the last time America was attacked on home soil? Our entire nation is armed so we don't get fucked with.
DaddyChan When was the last time a hostile force has been close enough to attempt to invade the US? And owning a gun doesn't mean you can fight off a trained army.
+HiddenTalent77 in my head i now see daddychan standing with a pistol infront of 10 tanks xD thanks for that!
This was by far a Great piece!!!
I dunno about you guys, but I love walking down the street knowing that no one else is carrying a gun. Just saying.
US homicide has dropped by 60% over the same time period.
***** According to FBI crime data, the US homicide rate was 9.5 in 1993 and 4.5 in 2013.
For the last twenty years crime rates have been dropping in every western country by significant margins, regardless of gun laws.
+Trepur349 It is still a 4.5 rate, if you compare it with other European countries it is really high, Spain, 0.9, Sweden, 0.6...
But the gap between Europe and America in homicides existed before European countries.
That's my point.
Trepur349 You are still considered a third world country in terms of violence and security, I mean, we still consider your country like that.
Ciscogrande lower violent crime rates then most Western European countries and a sexual assault rate one third of Sweden's.
Homicides is the only crime that the US is an outlier on.
"You are a great human being. It's just by all American standards, you are a sh*t politician. And the fact that that is true is why I am going to walk into the f*cking ocean." -- John Oliver, 2013
John Oliver and John Stewart are brilliant!